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drgrudge
06-02-2008, 03:46 PM
There has been a lot of bashing on Kollywood/Mollywood/Tollywood movies here.

I think, quality wise or the movie on the whole is in the same level as Bollywood. Atleast Tamil movies. JYFI, I watch Hindi and Tamil movies. I'm going to keep my arguement to Tamil (Kollywood) and Bollywood only.


Some myths and the reality

Quality is bad
Bad quality my foot. From what I seen last year, "quality" wise, there were equal amount of Hindi and Tamil movies. You call movies like Om Shanti Om, Welcome and Priyadarshan movies quality?

Sure, I loved movies like Lage Raho Munnabhai and Taare Zameen Par (better than the nest Tami movies during that period) but hardly more than 8% of the bollywood movies are good enough to watch.

I'm not naming any Tamil movies - but will do if anyone wants.



Low Budget
True, because the market is small than that of Bollyood movies.

Sivaji, tamil movie by the way, is the most expensive movie ever to hit in India when it was released. The budget was over 75 crores. They made over 100 crores from the movie.

I always fell budget should be a constrain to make quality movies. Has anyone here seen 12 Angry Men? They made that on a shoe string budget but it's the best movie ever made. Likewise I can list many low budget Hollywood ovies that are very good.


Screws Physics
True. I also hate to watch such things.

Such movies is for rural population. I don't think such flick even run in Chennai. They still make such movies because people see them. Remember that not all people don't live in cities, don't have internet connection and can't understand English to watch Hollywood flicks.

Watch Main Hoon Naa, SRK chased a Scorpio on a rickshaw. :lol:

Talking about physics, in Matrix, Reeves dodged bullets, pulled a chopper and "flew". Want me to list where physics is screwed?



So people, don't tell that Bollywood is better than Kollywood/regional movies. IMO, they're in the same sh!t.



JYFI, I've over 850 GB of multimedia data. I've access to over 1.2 TB of multimedia data. You name any Hollywood movie, I would've watched it.

The_Devil_Himself
06-02-2008, 03:57 PM
both sucks,hollywood rules!

I noticed some tamil movies dubbed in Hindi on some channel recnetly and I noticed the storylines are almost the same,the same dancing around trees and all that sh!t.


@grudge:BTW the 'stunts' in Matrix are explained as to how they are possible and even neo can't match our raknikanth and mithun da,can they?lol.

praka123
06-02-2008, 04:06 PM
tamil,kannda(sandalwood),telgu industries are churning out movies which is meant to be seen by a daily wage worker to relax,not the serious ones that are produced in hollywood.

while bollywood movies as a matter of fact are viewed by young people who are in schools,colleges.

drgrudge
06-02-2008, 04:11 PM
@grudge:BTW the 'stunts' in Matrix are explained as to how they are possible and even neo can't match our raknikanth and mithun da,can they?lol.
Vijaykant is the ultimate stunt man. There's is this scene where a bullet is shot at him, but it rebounds and kills the man who shot him. :lol: I was like WTF for 2 days when I saw that.


I just took the example of Matrix. You don't want me to list movies which screws physics and not explained.


You can't tell Regional movies sucks because there's no logic.

praka123
06-02-2008, 04:18 PM
^weakest tamil actor I saw was mgr.he is such a ...he needs dupes for every single actions :lol:

vijaykanth is really difficult to digest for me.I have seen his films starting from capt.prabhakar.also personally dont prefer his films.

Infact those films which are made for the rasikar's.what karunanidhi should do now is ban fanclubs in TN.that definitely helps.
I have seen a mad fight between rasikar mandram people in Coimbatore shanti(complex) theatre where the release of vijay film was going on-forgot the name of that film.

both TN and telegu,ban those fanclubs.infact in orkut furious fight is going on between chiranjivi fans and some shekhar fans(?) what is this?
people should be made understand that films are not real life;it is reel life.

drgrudge
06-02-2008, 04:28 PM
^^
I don't think banning any fan clubs is a good idea. I like Chiranjivi fan club. They donate blood, run schools, do social work and things. Chiranjivi infact got award from the President for such work. I like Chiranjivi, his fanclubs but I hate his movies. I don't mind his movies releasing every week as well.

Slowly these fan clubs are doing good things instead of doing milk abisekam (many are straving in streets), burning camphor in hands and indulging in anti social activities.


By the way, Vijaykant has some good movies like - Ramana, Vanathaipolae, Chinna Gounter, etc.. I'm sure why he want to do bad movies.

praka123
06-02-2008, 04:35 PM
^vanathepole is a real good movie.
I am a Vijay movies fan,pakka time pass :p
also likes kamalhaasan,Arjun Sarga(Mudhalvan is a gr8 film),

most hated actor by me goes to:

Chilambarasan
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jithudigitised
06-02-2008, 04:44 PM
well i like rajnikant and vijay ..whatever u sayy...whatever they they doo in the movies....its a worth watching with the friends...;)

movies are made for enjoying...sometimes majority will like that..but sometimes don't ..its just movies...

this is same for both tollywod or bollywood or hollywood..

well i liked the soorya movie kakka kakka very much...its a enjoyable movie.....

also i have seen sivaji 5 times :rolleyes: ...(Only with my friends..) coz we had a great time watching the fim...:cool:

viswanadh
06-02-2008, 05:14 PM
Vijaykant is the ultimate stunt man. There's is this scene where a bullet is shot at him, but it rebounds and kills the man who shot him. :lol: I was like WTF for 2 days when I saw that.


I just took the example of Matrix. You don't want me to list movies which screws physics and not explained.


You can't tell Regional movies sucks because there's no logic.



You will be far more surprised after you see stunts of Balakrishna aka Balayya (Telugu Hero) :D Search for "Balayya" in Youtube (link (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=balayya&search_type=&search=Search)). Don't forget to checkout other related videos too. I bet you will have a lot of fun :D


both TN and telegu,ban those fanclubs.infact in orkut furious fight is going on between chiranjivi fans and some shekhar fans(?) what is this?
people should be made understand that films are not real life;it is reel life.



It's between Chiranjeevi fans & Balakrishna (http://www.bollywoodsargam.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=8559) Fans (He is a Chowdary and most of their fans defaming Chiranjeevi are pure caste fanatics) ;)

PCWORM
06-02-2008, 05:43 PM
both sucks,hollywood rules!

I noticed some tamil movies dubbed in Hindi on some channel recnetly and I noticed the storylines are almost the same,the same dancing around trees and all that sh!t.


@grudge:BTW the 'stunts' in Matrix are explained as to how they are possible and even neo can't match our raknikanth and mithun da,can they?lol.
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ArZuNeOs
06-02-2008, 06:38 PM
nice to hear the grudge the pple have against each other

Its welcome after all where there is good there is always bad....two sides of a coin...

What some pple like... some dont...likewise

There are all kinds of pple in the world we live in ......
For Producers,Actors,Directors & cinefield specialists ...there main goal is to make money rather than satisying pple ....Off course the two are interconnected....

That is y we have movies at these extremes

Tamil Movies:

Movies like Sivaji went on to mint money ( refer DrGrudge viewz ),but there are those who didn't like that movie....

True success in films happens when movies fulfill the interests of all caders of pple....what Filmy stars call it masala movie ( not those kind of movies )

movies like Kadhal,Kalloori , Azhagiya theeye ....are some movies which are made in shoestring budget but reaped 3 times the investment ...now when u compare with sivaji ....the % looks better

Hindi / Bollywood ( Personally stop imitating our English fellows ....we are Unique )

Similarly movies like Devdass , KANK , Mangal Pandey , Swades all flopped bcause of the same reasons ....

Swades was accepted in the rest of india zone .....while in india it didn't do well ....bcause noone was to understand the attachment for the country....better than NRIs......

Devdas & similar GLITTER movies bombed because it didn't attract the majority of the people.

While movies made on real life scenarios were ok ....the best example is PAGE 3 ....

while on one side I really appreciate Hindi Cinemas for churning movies like swades , Rang de basanti .....at the same time the Legs & Glory ( yes ....glory ) which they portray is similar to a XX movie.....here again some pple luv to watch the latter alone.....thus movies like these rocked & stars like neha dhupia were born

Malayalam

I really appreciate the fellow mallus ...they have an eye for creativity

Really appreciate Manchitrathazhu ....which was the fodder for tamil movie Chandramukhi & Hindi one Bhool Bulaiya

Also technique adapted in their story telling is really nice ...including comedies......

Will Join in later for the bashing

ADR

phreak0ut
06-02-2008, 07:31 PM
I like a lot of tamil movies, but I somehow don't get to watch them when they are released. Telugu movies seems to be the worst in defying the laws of physics. Have you guys watched Aarya?? That's really too much to digest. Being a telugite myself, I simply hate lot of those cheap telugu movies. Wish I could understand malayalam so that I could get to watch the quality movies ;)

Bollywood is a joke, never mind :lol:

iMav
06-02-2008, 09:00 PM
my mom says that i can become an actor the only condition is that i need to learn a south indian language the looks part is covered :lol: even if i gain 100 pounds grow a mustache and am charcoal i can still be a lead :D

dOm1naTOr
06-02-2008, 09:17 PM
Yup, some Kollywood heroes looks like charcoal drug addicts with no idea bout neatness. Nd its hard even for viewers to keep watching them....
And people like rajnikanth keeps breaking physics laws like stoping fast movig 1ton vehicle suddenly with his sub 100kg body without even movinf nd didnt even break sweat....

drgrudge
06-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Bah! I thought there would be vivid discussions and debates. But everyone is agreeing with me! :| 25% of that Mumbai thread is full of south-north movies.


Maybe I should start a thread: "M. Karunadhi Vs Lallo Prasad Yadav" and then we might see some north-south movies posts. :lol:

viswanadh
06-02-2008, 09:23 PM
my mom says that i can become an actor the only condition is that i need to learn a south indian language the looks part is covered :lol: even if i gain 100 pounds grow a mustache and am charcoal i can still be a lead :D

In Telugu, you must have a grandfather in the industry to be successful in making a lot of movies as a hero irrespective of their fate :D These guys are spoiling the industry by making stupid masala movies :evil:

drgrudge
06-02-2008, 09:28 PM
Yup, some Kollywood heroes looks like charcoal drug addicts with no idea bout neatness. Nd its hard even for viewers to keep watching them....
And people like rajnikanth keeps breaking physics laws like stoping fast movig 1ton vehicle suddenly with his sub 100kg body without even movinf nd didnt even break sweat....
Isn't this racist comment? Dude, don't post about looks and all.

Rajnikant is Superstar. He get over 30-35 crores (only Jackie Chan earns more in Asia) for his stunts. One sun, one moon, one superstar.

viswanadh
06-02-2008, 09:34 PM
I like a lot of tamil movies, but I somehow don't get to watch them when they are released. Telugu movies seems to be the worst in defying the laws of physics. Have you guys watched Aarya?? That's really too much to digest. Being a telugite myself, I simply hate lot of those cheap telugu movies. Wish I could understand malayalam so that I could get to watch the quality movies ;)

Bollywood is a joke, never mind :lol:

A lot of that credit (defying laws of physics) goes to Mr.Balayya. I am also a Telugu but I liked Aarya very much. It's a love story with variety :) Cheap movies exist in every industry not only in Telugu, in Tamil and Hindi too :)

dOm1naTOr
06-02-2008, 09:35 PM
Most of the digit guys are grown up nd know well to rate movies nd thats why they made it to digit....he he
Nd theaters are full due to many blind people who dun know what real movie is!!! they just know: movie is some show of superhuman power for some purelly human charecters without any specific reason nd the only reason they cud find is "after all he is the hero na?".
lol

praka123
07-02-2008, 01:29 AM
@imav:does India got all Caucasians except south india :evil:

anywhere in India,u can find dark people more than so called white color.
I dont know about Aryan or Dravidian thing much.
Still,even in Iran,Arab we can find black people :p
and being black is not a -ve point unless ur a Indian.
look at will smith-how he manages!

Dont judge a person on his color,cast,creed.
my mom says that i can become an actor the only condition is that i need to learn a south indian language the looks part is covered :lol: even if i gain 100 pounds grow a mustache and am charcoal i can still be a lead :grin:

@imav -ur such a racist arsehole!:x u kid growup!

not all ppl look mat white.for eg:TN,Andhra,karnataka,kerala etc ppl are blackier .what is wrong in that :confused:

I know it is tough for u.but I am from a state where Ayitham(untouchability,"unseeability") was the norm for centuries.and myself knows how Our ancestors treated with Ayitham on SC/STs and Other people.

learn that with this type of mentalitiy u deserves a good beating from S.Indians.
grow up!u still thinks India=bombay :rolleyes:

dOm1naTOr
07-02-2008, 06:39 AM
But most of the heroes in Tamil not so hit movies has heroes with:
bloodshot eyes
haf halucinated looks like drug addicts
and maybe in that context its not important that the hero mush be that pathetic, but still such heroes are choosen.

max_demon
07-02-2008, 08:46 AM
i just love tamil , telegu movies , actors and actoresses (Genelia D'souza) . i just love them , they make such good quality movies , nice sound music songs voices , nice makupe everything , imo better than any hindi movie .

drgrudge
07-02-2008, 08:57 AM
Tamil Film Industry, Kollywood got the best technicians in India.

Music Direction: AR Rahman, enough said.
Cinematography: Santosh Sivan, Manikandan, PC Sriram, Rajiv Menon, KV Anand, Ravi K Chandran, Jeeva (he passed away recently), Ashok, Nirav Shah, etc...
Dance Choreography: Prabhu Deva (2 times national award for dance - one for Lakshya, not sure on the other)
Art Direction: Thota Tharani (multiple times national award winner); from Kerala but settled in Chennai



dOm1naTOr, iMAv -
Do not pass racist comments. Please don't talk abt looks.

lywyre
07-02-2008, 11:00 AM
It has been a long time since I watched Tamil movies in theatres. I don't even watch them from the optical discs which come my way. I've lost my interest in (masala) movies. Infact, in the last five years, I would have watched not have more than a dozen movies in theatres, most of them in Hindi. And I regret watching Gajini, Anniyan (though I liked both of their acting), Om Shanthi Om (felt like watching filmfare award show).

Though I thoroughly enjoyed or felt worthwile watching Anbe Sivam, Rang de Basanti and Taare Zameen Par (I watched this movie on my PC, then the very next day, took my friend to the theatre). Hope such movies come very often.

iMav
07-02-2008, 01:24 PM
:lol: u guys are as good as our politicians/australian cricket team when u know nothing else say the other person is a racist; look closely i said all i need to do is learn a language i look as handsome as the south actors how can i be a racist when i say that i look like those guys .... apni akal lagao dikhave pe matt jao ;)

call me what ever u want to but not a racist

praka123
07-02-2008, 02:19 PM
^njaan malyalathil randu theri parayam appam monte asukham maarikkollum.
^I just felt Malayalam is the official language of India :rolleyes:

ontopic:just watch the remakes of tamil movies in hindi and compare :lol:


while I thoroughly enjoyed vasoolraja mbbs than the original munnabhai.

and I found the remakes of the films got funny names :D
in telegu shankardada mbbs(?),kannada-uppidada mbbs(upendra) LOL!

ancientrites
07-02-2008, 02:19 PM
laxmikant pyarelal,shankar jaikishen,nadeem shravan Viju shah raamlaxman and ismail darbar completely beats Ar rehman.anyways teenage audience might still favour ar rehman.

yaaaaaaaaawnnn shiamak dawar and saroj khan in dance department.i did say prabhu deva and farah khan close enough

Bollywood rules and will keep ruling india.

iMav
07-02-2008, 02:34 PM
while I thoroughly enjoyed vasoolraja mbbs than the original munnabhai.

ya thats because u wouldnt understand half things as they are in hindi :D hindi is and should be the national language of india

drgrudge
07-02-2008, 02:47 PM
ontopic:just watch the remakes of tamil movies in hindi and compare :lol:

while I thoroughly enjoyed vasoolraja mbbs than the original munnabhai.
I saw some 30 minutes in Vasoolraja and got irritated. Munnabhai MBBS is far better movie.

Kamal and Prabhu have good chemistry but not as much as Sanjay Dutt and Arshad Warsi.



laxmikant pyarelal,shankar jaikishen,nadeem shravan Viju shah raamlaxman and ismail darbar completely beats Ar rehman.anyways teenage audience might still favour ar rehman.

yaaaaaaaaawnnn shiamak dawar and saroj khan in dance department.i did say prabhu deva and farah khan close enough
AR Rahman rules. Even if he's not from Chennai; I would liked his music.

Strange that you didn't have any name for Cinematographers. :lol:


Bollywood rules and will keep ruling india.
Yeah, it rules. Welcome had good box office collection than Taare Zameen Par. Welcome couldn't manage even 10 days in Chennai. :lol: TZP is a blockbuster and still running to packed houses.

We never argue that Bollywood not "rules" or something like that. Of course Bollywood make good collections than regional movies. But quality wise both are same.

praka123
07-02-2008, 02:47 PM
^never will it happen Hindi as and always will be the language of labours from north india 8)

drgrudge
07-02-2008, 02:52 PM
ya thats because u wouldnt understand half things as they are in hindi :D hindi is and should be the national language of india
Dude, can you understand everything that's spoken in Hollywood movies? I'll be honest. I can't.

Can you understand Mayalayam movies? Of course you can't fully even if you know Malayalam.

Anyway he can watch with Subtitles if he wants to.


And Hindi is the national language, my foot.

jithudigitised
07-02-2008, 02:52 PM
Bollywood rules and will keep ruling india.

no dude its your imagination.....there are good movies both in bollywood and other kollywood or other woods.:D

whenever there is good movies that will rule..it may be bollywood or other kollywood or other woods.:D

if u still say bollywood rules....just watch some other south indian movies and then come to a conclusion........;);)

praka123
07-02-2008, 03:22 PM
I saw some 30 minutes in Vasoolraja and got irritated. Munnabhai MBBS is far better movie.

Kamal and Prabhu have good chemistry but not as much as Sanjay Dutt and Arshad Warsi.


I feel it is better.may be I like Kamal's way :)

viswanadh
07-02-2008, 07:16 PM
[quote=praka123;741514
and I found the remakes of the films got funny names :D
in telegu shankardada mbbs(?),kannada-uppidada mbbs(upendra) LOL![/quote]

What's so funny in the name Shankardada MBBS? :o Btw, it's Telugu, not Telegu

CINTEL ENTRINO
07-02-2008, 07:49 PM
What's so funny in the name Shankardada MBBS? :o Btw, it's Telugu, not Telegu

yup... nice one viswanadh... its telugu :)

ancientrites
07-02-2008, 09:22 PM
But most of the heroes in Tamil not so hit movies has heroes with:
bloodshot eyes
haf halucinated looks like drug addicts
and maybe in that context its not important that the hero mush be that pathetic, but still such heroes are choosen.

HAHAHA that was awsome ok now let us take some fine examples of those who have mushtaches
jackie shroff,anil kapoor,mohanlal,mamooty,rajnikant,kamal hassan.even in this category bollywood actors are far better.

jithudigitised
07-02-2008, 10:43 PM
HAHAHA that was awsome ok now let us take some fine examples of those who have mushtaches
jackie shroff,anil kapoor,mohanlal,mamooty,rajnikant,kamal hassan.even in this category bollywood actors are far better.

:-xWTF :confused:

you are kidding right...from what aspect are you saying bollywood actors are far better...ohh may be you mean they are far better NOT SO GOOD looking with the mustaches :D when compared with the south indian actors u mentioned...:lol:

ancientrites
08-02-2008, 12:55 AM
hahahaahh hell yeah

NucleusKore
08-02-2008, 07:00 AM
Bah! I thought there would be vivid discussions and debates. But everyone is agreeing with me! :|

That's because they're not in here yet. Maybe just keeping low for a while. I do not know about Kollywood, but I've heard stuff like someone throws a gun, like a boomerang it goes around the room shooting all the baddies and then returns to the hero. Sounds as crazy as the Matrix.

Most Bollywood films suck. I like a few like Taare Zameen Par, Dor, Yun Hota Kya Hota

lywyre
08-02-2008, 10:09 AM
I guess, this thread should be the reason for Raj Thackery's outburst on non-marathis :D.

Just kidding, don't flame me ;) for this.

Charan
08-02-2008, 10:35 AM
That's because they're not in here yet. Maybe just keeping low for a while. I do not know about Kollywood, but I've heard stuff like someone throws a gun, like a boomerang it goes around the room shooting all the baddies and then returns to the hero. Sounds as crazy as the Matrix.


Yes if something like this is done in hollywood then its suberb .. when the same stunt is done in southindian film then its redicilious. I say a superhero in hollywood can fly who wheres his underware outside where as a indian flying is considered a joke :p

BTW his daughter Soundary , she one told in a interview that people love to see those crazy stunts, thats why he still does these kinda stunts, she also writes scripts for him. She studied multimedia at Edith Cowan University, Australia. she also heads a animation company.
http://www.newindpress.com/images/jan08/12bossjr.jpg

legolas
10-02-2008, 01:26 AM
@drgrudge, I accept Matrix fights defied gravity... But the concept of the movie itself was controlling with the mind. The matrix world itself where play with the mind happens. If you remember Morpheus' dialogue "A body can not live with out the mind". It took Neo time to realize that it is his mind which is to be controlled and realized in the matrix world and the potentialities of Mind is unexplainable, i think its pretty understandable. I guess you would accept with me if I say, its something like "telekinesia" as it comes in the show Heroes.

Tamil and Bollywood movies portray no concept of that sort, not even in 1 movie, so that comparison is pretty lame.

Otherwise, in my purview, Tamil movies are at least equally as good ad Bollywood. In fact I would say, Talent is more in Tamil than in Hindi field, the budget of the movies are relatively higher, may be, in Hindi (with the exception of Rajni movies and some other) and its completely wasted with ridiculous acting.

I personally hate SRK movies. I am sick of the typical plots.

I am from Tamilnadu, and if I have to btich abt Tamil movies then,

1) I am sick of heroes and villains shouting "ayyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeehhhh", "hueyyyyyyyyyyyyyehhhh"... But, I guess its now in every language now except for may be "malayalam"??

2) Gravity defying fights?? Holy CRAP. I accept in some hollywood movies also, this occurs, especially, this recent 2007 crap "hitman"... See that! :D

3) I have to accede, professionalism is more in Hindi movies, at least I think so, for... Hindi actors are more fit (even if they dont act... very good ex: john abraham), they look like they can at least stand the vindictive villains... See Dhanush, Jeeva, Simbu.... I am not talking about looks but professionalism. Also, "red eyes" as one of them mentioned, half-drunk happens more frequently in Tamil than Hindi, to my knowledge.It may be wrong.

4) song lyrics are horrible. the problem is that the population in city is more educated than say 20 yrs before, but the gap with villages have widened.. So, when it becomes necessary to satisfy the audience in villages,towns etc... it becomes so low and undervalued for ppl who expect a story line, reality, believable, continuous movie!

5) Screenplay is more or less like advertisement (compared to Hollywood movies)... and this is not in all movies... Hindi movies suck more in this regard.

Finally, I recommend you to see the movie "Michael Clayton" starring George Clooney, written and directed (debut) by Tony Gilroy (previously in screenplay)... See the gravity of the movie with a very simple concept. It is all I ask!! I need no super-hero stunts... no ubersexy dances....

I hope my opinion helps a few among you to continue btiching about either industries :lol: :D

lywyre
12-02-2008, 11:18 AM
^^ Headshot !

drgrudge
12-02-2008, 11:21 AM
legolas -
I saw some 70 mins in Michael Clayton and I couldn't understand what the hell was going on. :D

zyberboy
12-02-2008, 11:28 AM
Tamil and Bollywood movies portray no concept of that sort, not even in 1 movie, so that comparison is pretty lame.

ya...even the gravity defying stunts in matrix makes sense in the context of the story.
And regional movies tries to copy the same stunts and fails

juggler
12-02-2008, 11:56 AM
See matrix had a very solid concept
It was based on virtual reality where ur power is only limited by your thought.
Most hindi movies do not show these kind of concept. If shown properly with some logic people will accept them. ex In krrish the director have shown that the hero has inhereted super powers and hence no one joked about it.

praka123
12-02-2008, 12:04 PM
@legolas:young actors in South Indian movies are fit!may be u will be watching few old movies ;) BTW,John Abraham is a half-Malayali too,JFYI ;)

mediator
12-02-2008, 03:04 PM
I think its irrelevant where the actors r from. Its bt Kolly Vs Bolly and how healthy lads n chicks they hire.

legolas
12-02-2008, 05:36 PM
legolas -
I saw some 70 mins in Michael Clayton and I couldn't understand what the hell was going on. :D
grudgy, It portrays the life of a guy (George Clooney) Michael Clayton who is "the fixer" in a company which is affiliated to one of the greatest law firms. One of the lawyer (by far the best) Tim Wilkinson becomes sick of putting wrong-doers behind the bars and he accidentally comes across evidence sufficient to sue the company and bring them to limelight... the crime the company does masked under the name of "law". Michael clayton who is under lots of debt owing to his lethargic brother is asked to take care of the situation. But at the same time, the boss of the LAW firm will go to any extent to save the name of the company. How he deals the debt, how he solves one of the greatest case (in cajoling the best lawyer)... whether he succeeds is the plot.

See the screenplay.. Its marvelous, wondrous, remarkable. do you see any discontinuity? I couldn't even spot 1. For a debut direction.. I would say this is a milestone!!!

Also, regarding the original topic, one more point I forgot to mention, though this is not between bollywood/kollywood but... Hollywood Vs bolly/kollywood.

There, all the actors go for acting classes, take part in skits, plays, dramas, soap operas, dancing, tv shows, reality shows (some), and by the time they are decided fit to enter the big screen, they are arnd 30-40. But, all the experiences they have gained over helps them better.

In our country, director's son, producer's son etc... are the major percentage. Even the others have no clue about acting except for aspiration...

In spite of that, there are awesome actors in both the bollywood and kollywood still... the quality is a function of the whole lot, not the best ones! :(


@Praka123, John Abraham -> Half malayali -> disgrace to malayalam industry where such class actors are there and beautiful storylines and screenplays demand acting (I watched malayalam movies till arnd 2003 may be... I am so out of touch with recent movies... But I did see Dilip movies in Surya. OMG, he has become soooooo fat) :D

reg. south indian actors fit.. I wouldn't really agree to it. To be frank, I don't really see a difference between a spoilt brat on the street and now-a-days hero.. I don't know most of their names... I don't want to know them. Professionalism lacks! relatively in south indian movies, I would say... My finest example is dhanush!! My ear decibel hearing level resolution has gone down by him shouting along with the villain "yeiiiiiiiiiihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" :lol:

take it easy!

juggler
12-02-2008, 05:52 PM
Ya main problem in india is they do not plan the film well
In most of the movies it seems that in the end the directors somehow try to finish the movies in ways that defy logic

praka123
12-02-2008, 06:04 PM
tamil have seen few old films among that I like:
muthal maryada
mounaragam
johny
kadhalan
panineerpushpangal(saw in both malayalam and tamil ;) )
..>thats what all I remember neow!
well,Malayalam films "were" my favourites until it copied that dappaan koothu and telegu,hindi numbers ;)

Still,regularly watches vijay movies as I like his act and the almost same storyline in all vijayan's movies :D

Telegu films watched few handful of movies,most of them is cr@p(no offense meant).
though I like Allu Arjun's movies like happy etc (babai,Ikkada Keralavundu telegu pada Chaala Ishta...sry I am not very fam with telegu) all these movies come here either dubbed in mal or not.
I have seen Manasantha Nuvve,Nuvve kaavali etc

Kannada movies I last saw was Mungaaru Maley(Munne peitha Malai) the film is really touchy and I liked the songs esp Suvvi Suvvi...

mediator
12-02-2008, 06:14 PM
I liked Shiva (Nagarjuna one). I thought, it wud be 2 hr movie like the rest. But it beat the records I guess => 6 hrs movie?? It left me enthralled. :shock:

legolas
12-02-2008, 07:18 PM
rightly put, vijay movies -> stereo type. but, he said to the press after giving a couple of stereotype movies sometime back.. that he takes those plots again and again becoz its what his fans like... and when he tried different rolls like "priyamanavale", "kannukul nilavu" and stuffs... it was utter flop!!

he is partially right... But different script alone isn't necessary... We shouldn't blame him... The direction sucked in both movies!!!

sachin_kothari
16-02-2008, 11:13 AM
guys, just watch what you like.
everyone has different tastes.
its useless comparing it.

legolas
16-02-2008, 10:33 PM
dude, teh section is "fight club" and the topic is debatable... what do you expect? :lol:
don't be afraid.. jus kidding.
Everyone knows its not productive fighting (for anything for that matter), for advices are seldom taken! :D

ssdivisiongermany1933
06-03-2008, 10:14 PM
Iam not that watching south movies .but certainly actors have better charm than bollywood one except Nana , dilip kumar and Amitabh . specially chiranjeevi and Nagarjuna are kool ones from telugu belt