Sex before marriage....

[sam9s]

Sex before marriage......well......with todays nxt genx going with rocket pace....what do you say.........on ethical, physical, emotional and personal grounds.........approve or disapprove.

[Gigacore]

i think its discussed earlier

[dOm1naTOr]

But there was no dedicated thread, i think.

[sam9s]

i think its discussed earlier

well I couldnt find any with couple of searches......neeway.......we might as well have a thread......

[Gigacore]

okie.. my vote goes to 2

[debsuvra]

I also do not support it. So no.2 is the right one for me. ;)

[sam9s]

mmmm might as well include the reason, age if its okay with you people.....................

[Hitboxx]

Screw ethics, screw culture, screw religion....if I and her wants to have sex, we will have sex, we're both mature adults, so Yes.

[smit]

Let me ask one thing who the hell created the rule not to have sex before marriage ? humans did, as i am a human i have the power to disapprove it !

[amol48]

^^ Yea I agree with you ....

Moreover, I believe that if you are having it with someone you really love and would get into relation with, then it's ok.. Otherwise I don't approve it.. So right now my vote goes for Option 1: APPROVE

[amitava82]

Sex is a process & part of life. What it has to do with marriage?

[life31]

I dont mind.

May be something like a practice match before the actual tournament :D

[New]

My vote goes to 2...But, some times it's okhttp://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/113.gif

[gx_saurav]

I don't mind, See...Sex is a beautiful thing & in today's world even the teenagers of 17 years want to have sex as soon as possible. Having a GF/BF is like a fashion these days & gals/guys are desprate to have one so that they can brag "look guys, I have a GF, U don't", so obviously desparation is from both sides which leads to sex.

In 2002 when I was in school, Sex in teenagers was rare in Lucknow, now in 2008 it is common. Our younger brother & sisters are doing it & there is nothing we can do to stop them....

The only thing we can do is to inform them about safe sex & that unsafe sex before marriage or a certain age can & will lead to problems. Let them do it, if people think they are mature enough to have sex before marriage then let them deal with the problems themselves, they are mature enough for dealing with problems too.

Sex before marriage should be there, but with a partner you can trust that he/she will not go & brag about it to his/her friends & within the limits of safety.

A very good concept these days is of Sex buddies, or more like one night stands between office co-workers & college classmates. Have sex but with no strings attached, just pure fun between the guy & gal.

[ax3]

@sam9s (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=6966) ...... bt whots ur choice ?

mine is 2 ......

[Ecko]

Can cause HIV(not AIDS) even if u use C-Protection :D

[solomon_paulraj]

guys, i was the one who started the previous thread, but it was removed.:(

Screw ethics, screw culture, screw religion....if I and her wants to have sex, we will have sex, we're both mature adults, so Yes.

yeah! i knew that from from your avatar.. :cool:

[harryneopotter]

if I and her wants to have sex, we will have sex, we're both mature adults, so Yes.

Let me ask one thing who the hell created the rule not to have sex before marriage ? humans did, as i am a human i have the power to disapprove it !


I believe that if you are having it with someone you really love and would get into relation with, then it's ok.

Sex is a process & part of life. What it has to do with marriage?

+1...............

[Tech_Wiz]

I Disapprove it

[phreak0ut]

Ok, so many dissapprovals. If you have a gf and you are going really steady for a long time and she makes the move, would you still say no!? I doubt guys saying no to sex is very doubtful :D

[Sukhdeep Singh]

Disapprove

[napster007]

i can't say............true it has got nothing to do with marriage but when you decide to go for it...you have to be sure that she is the one. What i dissaprove is going around screwing everyone

[iNFiNiTE]

^^ +1

[apacheman]

well, u can enjoy sex in the true sense when you really love the one u're having with. ofcourse, sex creates intimacy between the partners, so u certainly cant have it 'with no strings attached'. dat'll be more like animal sex.
n u can't just bang anyone u feel like even if they agree, just to satisfy your lust. its like encouraging n creating whores n prosts, free ones though. bah!

[sam9s]

I don't mind, See...Sex is a beautiful thing & in today's world even the teenagers of 17 years want to have sex as soon as possible.

Sex before marriage should be there, but with a partner you can trust that he/she will not go & brag about it to his/her friends & within the limits of safety.

A very good concept these days is of Sex buddies, or more like one night stands between office co-workers & college classmates. Have sex but with no strings attached, just pure fun between the guy & gal.

Good points.....and I agree sex IS beautifull, BUT ONLY if its done with the pure, devine feeling called love which you should have towards your partner, irrespective of weather you are married or not. I feel sex without the touch of love is eating egg without salt.......remember.....

"You can have sex without loving a person, but you can'nt love a person without having sex"

Linda Goodman says, when you finally decide to make your bodies meet there should be a proper chemistry before you finally take the plundge. You should know each others heat and soul and then let your bodies should unite. If this path is right you will get the most beautifull experience you can ever have. But if its done vice versa i.e. bodies first and then your heart and soul , it wont work atleast not in the perfect sense.

Sex before marriage should be there, but with a partner you can trust that he/she will not go & brag about it to his/her friends & within the limits of safety.

This thing has become a rarity today, trust/commitment these days depends
upon the scenario which is ever changing and so does the trust and commitment. Just look at the MMS flood floating around, and 80% of them I'd say has a geniune girl, who thinks she is giving herself to the one she loves.

My vote goes to 2...But, some times it's okhttp://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/113.gif

you disapprove, but SOMETIMES its okyyy....what do mean by that.....double standerds

[amol48]

I think it depends on the person you are with, rather than your current state of relationship(I mean like 1 month relationship or in relationship since 5 years...) It's all about chemistry between your relationship, psychology of your mind (and biology of your body I guess :-D)

[pushkaraj]

i disapprove

[speedyguy]

approve...but play safe....

@sam9s: agree....only issue we have 2day is introduction to sequels of dps rk puram kaand...it has set a trend today....couples love each other truly...they have it finally...n other day a blue movie on them is posted on debonairblog site.....have it surely but only if and IF ur damn 100% sure abt truthfulness n character of ur partner...(esp for galz)....

Enjoy~!

[gaurav_indian]

ghor kalyug hai :mad:

[gauravakaasid]

approve of it. all the points have been covered.

[T159]

ghor kalyug hai :mad:
:D:D:D

[Krazy_About_Technology]

I don't mind, See...Sex is a beautiful thing & in today's world even the teenagers of 17 years want to have sex as soon as possible. Having a GF/BF is like a fashion these days & gals/guys are desprate to have one so that they can brag "look guys, I have a GF, U don't", so obviously desparation is from both sides which leads to sex.

In 2002 when I was in school, Sex in teenagers was rare in Lucknow, now in 2008 it is common. Our younger brother & sisters are doing it & there is nothing we can do to stop them....

The only thing we can do is to inform them about safe sex & that unsafe sex before marriage or a certain age can & will lead to problems. Let them do it, if people think they are mature enough to have sex before marriage then let them deal with the problems themselves, they are mature enough for dealing with problems too.

Sex before marriage should be there, but with a partner you can trust that he/she will not go & brag about it to his/her friends & within the limits of safety.

A very good concept these days is of Sex buddies, or more like one night stands between office co-workers & college classmates. Have sex but with no strings attached, just pure fun between the guy & gal.

+1

Very rightly said. Things have changed very much and a different thinking pattern, a different way of looking at these things is required, which apparently many here are already having :-D ;-) No offences.

[qadirahmed]

is this a indian site.........>? Does all are the indian guys who were replied.....>? unbelievable.........

Guys just think if our sister would had a sex before marriage would we tolerate that......? Finally Be Indian.... and Respect our culture

[kartik]

;)i think sex before marriage is good if both couples r intrested.:cry::eek:

[harryneopotter]

is this a indian site.........>? Does all are the indian guys who were replied.....>? unbelievable.........

Guys just think if our sister would had a sex before marriage would we tolerate that......? Finally Be Indian.... and Respect our culture

A great point for Counter Attack ..............

[kalpik]

;)i think sex before marriage is good if both couples r intrested.:cry::eek:
LOL! Both couples! hahaha so there are 2 couples involved! Heh.. now dont talk about a foursome here :P

[vish786]

;)i think sex before marriage is good if both couples r intrested.:cry::eek:

:lol:... that comment will make you famous around here for NOTW by some more dull heads :D [no offence intended, j/k]

[moshel]

Ok, so many dissapprovals. If you have a gf and you are going really steady for a long time and she makes the move, would you still say no!? I doubt guys saying no to sex is very doubtful :D

That would raise an even BIGGER question.......

anyways coming back to the point...

whether you or your partner ever had pre-marital sex with each other or any1 else will not matter once you start living a peaceful married life..and have been married for a few years....because after all this time you would really not care about it.

[gx_saurav]

Guys just think if our sister would had a sex before marriage would we tolerate that......? Finally Be Indian.... and Respect our culture

Do you know it is only the indian culture where sex is worshipped. Only Indian culture where we have a whole book on sex & it's positions etc. Dude, everyone does it....is it wrong to learn or talk about how to do it properly & safely...Indian culture is way ahead of western culture when it comes to sex.

You talk about our sisters, bro...don't u think they will get married some day too? Don't u think they should also learn for safe sex even if they don't do it before marriage.....comon, if we guys do it..it's fine, but if the gals do it..they are slu**..,get out of this thinking first

[T159]

Yeah india is progressing =D

kinda sad that kindergarten kids are celebrating valentine, we are diluting the very culture that once made us stand apart.

I mean wats the point in doing all this, everyday is yours do watever but then do it when u r mature enuf. Trying out things just for fun can be a traumatizing experience and ruin everything.

I guess we hav got some purpose to be here. I would rather like to hav one girl than whacking many just to find out that guilty conscience. Though people are more mechanical now than havin any values.

lol..i guess i wrote that much after a month or to.

[the.kaushik]

I don't mind, See...Sex is a beautiful thing & in today's world even the teenagers of 17 years want to have sex as soon as possible. Having a GF/BF is like a fashion these days & gals/guys are desprate to have one so that they can brag "look guys, I have a GF, U don't", so obviously desparation is from both sides which leads to sex.

In 2002 when I was in school, Sex in teenagers was rare in Lucknow, now in 2008 it is common. Our younger brother & sisters are doing it & there is nothing we can do to stop them....

The only thing we can do is to inform them about safe sex & that unsafe sex before marriage or a certain age can & will lead to problems. Let them do it, if people think they are mature enough to have sex before marriage then let them deal with the problems themselves, they are mature enough for dealing with problems too.

Sex before marriage should be there, but with a partner you can trust that he/she will not go & brag about it to his/her friends & within the limits of safety.

A very good concept these days is of Sex buddies, or more like one night stands between office co-workers & college classmates. Have sex but with no strings attached, just pure fun between the guy & gal.
Well said!

[techtronic]

As long as its done with Contraceptives and Birth Prevention Pills, its approved from my side. :D

[sam9s]

is this a indian site.........>? Does all are the indian guys who were replied.....>? unbelievable.........

Guys just think if our sister would had a sex before marriage would we tolerate that......? Finally Be Indian.... and Respect our culture

Would'nt she do it after getting married so what makes you less angry on the thought of your sis being with another guy if there is a social stamp of marriage. Think of it.

Respecting our culture does not mean we shy away from the fact, fact that sex was always a part of life and we should try to make it beautifull with the blend of Love and care. Sex before marriage does not mean going around screwing people.....THAT would have been a murder of our culture.

LOL! Both couples! hahaha so there are 2 couples involved! Heh.. now dont talk about a foursome here :P

ROFL.....that was too funny :P

Ok, so many dissapprovals. If you have a gf and you are going really steady for a long time and she makes the move, would you still say no!? I doubt guys saying no to sex is very doubtful :D

If you really....I mean REALLY love your girl, and yes the right time has not yet arrived you should ask your girl to wait....wait for the right time........believe me the kind of respect and bond you will develop after that would be hard to discribe in words.

[gauravakaasid]

^^very well said and all valid points.

[adi007]

Disapprove
not because of culture but because of safety..
why?even the best methods to prevent pregnency and STD is not 100%efficient ..so it might risk both of us...
imagine if she became pregnant and u will have her dad in ur house..:shock:....
Why take risk..wait till marriage...

[superczar]

hehe,..so cliched but so true:

Virginity is neither Security nor a sign of Purity,
It is the lack of Opportunity!!!

I wonder what the single guys around here who voted No around here would do .....if a hot chick would make the first move...
I'd love to see all their high falutin' ideas fly out of the window....

Anyway, IMHO, the decision is more a question of the age and the maturity of the individuals involved and not their marital status

[minniawochat]

i disapprove

is this a indian site.........>? Does all are the indian guys who were replied.....>? unbelievable.........

Guys just think if our sister would had a sex before marriage would we tolerate that......? Finally Be Indian.... and Respect our culture

Well Said


Do you know it is only the indian culture where sex is worshipped. Only Indian culture where we have a whole book on sex & it's positions etc. Dude, everyone does it....is it wrong to learn or talk about how to do it properly & safely...Indian culture is way ahead of western culture when it comes to sex.

You talk about our sisters, bro...don't u think they will get married some day too? Don't u think they should also learn for safe sex even if they don't do it before marriage.....comon, if we guys do it..it's fine, but if the gals do it..they are slu**..,get out of this thinking first

Umm I dont understand u r agree or disagree


For The Guys Who Are Agree Please Anwser this question : Do U gonna marry that girl who done sex with your friend ?????

Thanks

[adi007]

For The Guys Who Are Agree Please Anwser this question : Do U gonna marry that girl who done sex with your friend ?????

excellent question..
let's see what will be the reply..

[iMav]

what is the big deal in having sex before marriage :confused:

some 1 asked a stupid question here is another 1 for that person answer this 1:

are u perfectly fine with ur wife having sex with ur friend after she is married?

sex is something very natural and there is no restriction on some 1 as to who screws whom till it is done with the consent of both parties involved; sex is emotional and physical if 2 people agree to involve themselves to physically venting their emotions whats the big deal .... proper education/precaution should be taken and given

[esumitkumar]

^^ arre bhai logo..agar aasani se s*x mil jaaye to sahi hai
warna marriage tak wait karo : D :D :D

jokes apart... i disapprove of having s*x if u r not marrying ur s*x partner..its only lust not love ........ :x

[blueshift]

^^ Yea I agree with you ....

Moreover, I believe that if you are having it with someone you really love and would get into relation with, then it's ok.. Otherwise I don't approve it..

+1

[$$Gururaj$$]

When i voted APPROVE, i wanted to answer the question someone asked

" would you see that happen to my sister "

though i dont have one, i would definitely would let here have sex with his friend, if she wanted.

And if that guy didnt marry her, i wouldnt mind either. Why? because my sis (if i had) asked for it. that would be her fault.

Also see some kamasutra pics. people in ancient india used to have sex with multiple partners AT ONCE..

ahhhh golden days.

[iMav]

jokes apart... i disapprove of having s*x if u r not marrying ur s*x partner..its only lust not love ........ :x if both agree whats the big deal ... lust isnt human :confused:

[$$Gururaj$$]

I had sex with 4 girls till now and my goal is to reach 50 this year.

[apacheman]

Now this gives rise to a new thread, that 'minniawochat' initiated.
Will you marry a girl who'z had sex earlier, maybe once or maybe umpteen times? I'd like to hear all the 'sex approverz' reply..
n by the way, after you marry, will ya ppl let your wife have sex with anyone if she likes? perhaps 'with the consent of both of 'em?'

[praka123]

Disapprove.Humans are supposed to be Humans.not animals.control ur urges!get urself married ASAP if u feel u cannot control sex.

It isnt cool to follow the western foolish way of dating and change the partner every 1 month or so :rolleyes: no wonder,west wonders the indian way of marrying a single partner and live the life with him/her.Love and courteousness is what you should be prepared for.

Sex isnt everything!It is like wild Bulls,these dating suckers.I personally,totally disagrees :-|

[solomon_paulraj]

our culture approves sex before marriage IF ONLY THE BOTH AGREE TO GET MARRIED.

Kamasutra, the holy book of sex, states that lovers can have sex even before marriage.

Our culture has approved sex before marriage but considers it should be the very person who you are going to get married.

But there were some obligations on the male counter parts to fulfill the desires of females once they demand sex. (Kamasutra) otherwise it is considered as a sin.:)

The persons who disagree are not exposed to the fact that most sex violence are committed by married persons than unmarried persons.

If you are going to talk about western culture, well in the case of sex, the western people are the main readers of kamasutra and also the PRACTIONERS OF THE BOOK.

We indians only write the books and forget it. So we should be proud to be the inventers of DIVINE SEX which the western people are followining and we failed to.:)

[iMav]

1. if 2 people want to do something whats the problem ... if a girl wants to have sex with a guy why cant she .... isnt lust/sexual urges human ...

2. and sex isnt everything but is an important part of a marriage ... so the girl or guy has every right to do the deed and see if they are comfortable

[solomon_paulraj]

^^

...........so the girl or guy has every right to do the deed and see if they are comfortable

and also compatible...:D

in india (south) they have to match 10 important things before marriage and one such thing is matching of reproductive organs. only if atleast 7 to 8 are matched, marriage is arranged.

[iMav]

and also compatible...

exactly ... if the guy cant install vista then he will curse MS obviously we dont want that :rolleyes:

[solomon_paulraj]

^^
...lolz....

[esumitkumar]

in india (south) they have to match 10 important things before marriage and one such thing is matching of reproductive organs
matching of reproductive organs :o :o :o can u please elaborate how do they match ???

[harryneopotter]

yea.... i am also confused .......:confused: :confused: :confused:
Matching of P***S and V****A ??????

[solomon_paulraj]

matching of reproductive organs :o :o :o can u please elaborate how do they match ???

well they call it "Yoni Porutham", it states the size of reproductive organs and the match based on 3 aspects. Small, Medium and big. in ks (kamasutra) it states like pig, horse and elephant.

so the match should be even from both sex. otherwise it is treated as incompatibe. just like trying to install vista on a PII or using your alienware desktop to run windows 3.1.:-D

[harryneopotter]

still confused :confused: :confused: :confused: , how can they measure the size of organs for BOTH THE SEXES ?????????

[iMav]

i gues the scales are different for both ;)

[solomon_paulraj]

still confused :confused: :confused: :confused: , how can they measure the size of organs for BOTH THE SEXES ?????????

you can estimate the size of reproductive organ by looking at certain other features of the body.
for ex. you can use the following, face length, upper body proportion i.e. portion above stomach and portion below stomach, length of hip to knee and the ratio between knee to toe, etc.:D
these are recorded at the time of birth and is used during marriage, so the verifying process of documents before marriage is just to find out whether these features match both the sexes.;)

[harryneopotter]

can u explain the process or better provide a link plz ...............

[solomon_paulraj]

can u explain the process or better provide a link plz ...............

get a copy of kamasutra... the indian sex bible...;-)

[teknoPhobia]

is this a indian site.........>? Does all are the indian guys who were replied.....>? unbelievable.........

Guys just think if our sister would had a sex before marriage would we tolerate that......? Finally Be Indian.... and Respect our culture

Been a very long time since I felt like replying to anything here, but here goes...


ROTFLMAO :mrgreen: :roll:

[iMav]

^^ http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif i never knew being indian means restricting people from doing things they wish to and qadirahmed are u fine with ur sister having sex with another guy after she gets married would tolerate that :rolleyes:

[harryneopotter]

get a copy of kamasutra... the indian sex bible...;-)
Thnx ....i will try to get my hands on it .......

[praka123]

^U better get ur girl along with the book for practical experience then! :D J/K

[solomon_paulraj]

Thnx ....i will try to get my hands on it .......

yeah.. hurry.. so that you can become "FIST OF FURY" :D and "ENTER THE DRAGON" easily...:D

[harryneopotter]

hahaha .......... and ragarding practical experience with ma girl ....i dnt think the right time has arrived yet b/w us .....i mean we r in a long term relation ...but the physical comfort lvl hasnt crossed the threshold ..and i dnt mind waiting for sumtime for that perfect moment to occur ... but till then ..the research will go on and on ........:D :D :D

[bigdaddy486]

I am only 14 and what can i say?

[praka123]

^and u got ur username bigdaddy ? :rolleyes: :lol:
BTW,we got a math,ur 14 and am 28 :D

[solomon_paulraj]

fight club... is turning out to be NIGHT CLUB.... ;-)

[Ambar]

well its ones own discretion...if he/she wants to have sex or not ....and there is not anything in writing anywhere tht u cant lose ur virginity to anyone except ur life parterner...it depends on ones own thinking and beliefs,,,so without saying anything more ill go for 1...:D

[T159]

so the verdict is

have an audition for ur partner, match every friggin inch of ur body until u get perfect match.

But there is nothing as perfect in this world of ours, so the above statement proves to be wrong

[iMav]

so the verdict is

have an audition for ur partner, match every friggin inch of ur body until u get perfect match.

But there is nothing as perfect in this world of ours, so the above statement proves to be wrong i dont want a perfect match but that doesnt mean i wont take auditions :twisted:

[max_demon]

i approve . my daughter's name is genelia :D

[sam9s]

For The Guys Who Are Agree Please Anwser this question : Do U gonna marry that girl who done sex with your friend ????? [/B]

Thanks

ok since nobody answered this I will start with what I think, there are 3 aspects/scenarios I will consider and would react acordingly. If I am getting married to a complete stranger, the VERY first thing I will do is to have a long contended discuession with her about her having any serious affair. I would say 3 situations would probably rise from this......

1. Yes I have a long term relation and I am physical with the the guy as well.....in this case I will make sure that she returns to the guy she loves.


2. Yes she had a relation and was physical but the guy ditched her and got married with somebody else.........In that case I will probably spend 5,6 months with her and let her and myself judge if we both are comfortable with the fact that she had a past and that we have a common equation.......then I will happly without any doubts accept her.

3. In case she say she had sex just for the sake of it since she had a chance........I will not accept her...

So you people can judge what is it when I say sex befor marriage.......its not about "experiensing" sex just for the heck of it, its purly about the geniune feelings and emotions. If you have them and then blend them with the physical aspect there is absolutely nothing wrong in it. And you should be man enough to accept it if you are at the other side of the table.

..
n by the way, after you marry, will ya ppl let your wife have sex with anyone if she likes? perhaps 'with the consent of both of 'em?'

eeep whats up with you guys, this is not about exchanging your partners before or after marriage ......if this "with the concent of both of 'em" thingi happenes its definately not LOVE and CARE, it f***ing pure lust gratification and if your ethics and morals have totally died on you, you would probably go for that as well. I m talking about sex with the guy you love, truly, deeply, and most of all maturely. If that is the case for me its a green signal, even if as I said replying minniawochat, I am at the recieving end I will accept it with full convection.............

[Pravas]

I agree with the above guy:). Sex In love is Acceptable But Not for Lust:mad:.

[T159]

I agree with the above guy:). Sex In love is Acceptable But Not for Lust:mad:.
its the lust that comes before love :D

So a love without lust is imaginary.

[iMav]

So a love without lust is imaginary. very true ... lust=sex; without lust if have sex its like pizza without cheese

[Hitboxx]

Meh! Sex is just sex.

And for the divine intervention of Sex from ancient times, here's a piece...., Yeh, see something strange in the pic? :p

Inappropriate

[T159]

post thumbnail...dude

and thats kinda gross, weird artist render

[amol48]

I can now see that the number of approvals are more that refusals unlike before.. Good.. That's what I had expected from you people :-D

[krates]

chahte sab hai par naatak dikhayengen

bade ton khud kar liye hame mana karte hain

:D:D:D

[gaurav_indian]

i approve . my daughter's name is genelia :D

sharam karo digit wasiyon :mad: 14 saal ka bacha bigad raha hai yahan :mad:
khud "cerelacs" khaane ke din hai aur ladkiyan paida karne ki baatein kar raha hai.:mad: ghor kalyug hai :mad:

Meh! Sex is just sex.

And for the divine intervention of Sex from ancient times, here's a piece...., Yeh, see something strange in the pic? :p



yeh thinkdigit forum hai bhai sahab thinksex nahi :mad: remove the image max_demon bigad raha hai :mad:

[ajaybc]

I agree wih pre-marital SEX as long as it is free.It will help many depending industries like Condomn manufacturing and sales,copper T manufacturing and will also help gaenacologists who are specialists in abortion.
Post marital sex with multiple persons wud be superb!!!

MAKE SURE THAT A VACCINE FOR AIDS IS INVENTED BEFORE HAVING IT!:rolleyes:

[vish786]

I'm pumping life to this thread. :p

Screw ethics, screw culture, screw religion....if I and her wants to have sex, we will have sex, we're both mature adults, so Yes.

^^ Yea I agree with you ....

Moreover, I believe that if you are having it with someone you really love and would get into relation with, then it's ok.. Otherwise I don't approve it.. So right now my vote goes for Option 1: APPROVE

I dont mind.

May be something like a practice match before the actual tournament :D

I don't mind, See...Sex is a beautiful thing & in today's world even the teenagers of 17 years want to have sex as soon as possible. Having a GF/BF is like a fashion these days & gals/guys are desprate to have one so that they can brag "look guys, I have a GF, U don't", so obviously desparation is from both sides which leads to sex.

In 2002 when I was in school, Sex in teenagers was rare in Lucknow, now in 2008 it is common. Our younger brother & sisters are doing it & there is nothing we can do to stop them....

The only thing we can do is to inform them about safe sex & that unsafe sex before marriage or a certain age can & will lead to problems. Let them do it, if people think they are mature enough to have sex before marriage then let them deal with the problems themselves, they are mature enough for dealing with problems too.

Sex before marriage should be there, but with a partner you can trust that he/she will not go & brag about it to his/her friends & within the limits of safety.

A very good concept these days is of Sex buddies, or more like one night stands between office co-workers & college classmates. Have sex but with no strings attached, just pure fun between the guy & gal.

+1...............

Ok, so many dissapprovals. If you have a gf and you are going really steady for a long time and she makes the move, would you still say no!? I doubt guys saying no to sex is very doubtful :D

approve...but play safe....

@sam9s: agree....only issue we have 2day is introduction to sequels of dps rk puram kaand...it has set a trend today....couples love each other truly...they have it finally...n other day a blue movie on them is posted on debonairblog site.....have it surely but only if and IF ur damn 100% sure abt truthfulness n character of ur partner...(esp for galz)....

Enjoy~!

approve of it. all the points have been covered.

+1

Very rightly said. Things have changed very much and a different thinking pattern, a different way of looking at these things is required, which apparently many here are already having :-D ;-) No offences.

;)i think sex before marriage is good if both couples r intrested.:cry::eek:

Well said!

As long as its done with Contraceptives and Birth Prevention Pills, its approved from my side. :D


what is the big deal in having sex before marriage :confused:

some 1 asked a stupid question here is another 1 for that person answer this 1:

are u perfectly fine with ur wife having sex with ur friend after she is married?

sex is something very natural and there is no restriction on some 1 as to who screws whom till it is done with the consent of both parties involved; sex is emotional and physical if 2 people agree to involve themselves to physically venting their emotions whats the big deal .... proper education/precaution should be taken and given

I had sex with 4 girls till now and my goal is to reach 50 this year.

I agree wih pre-marital SEX as long as it is free.It will help many depending industries like Condomn manufacturing and sales,copper T manufacturing and will also help gaenacologists who are specialists in abortion.
Post marital sex with multiple persons wud be superb!!!

MAKE SURE THAT A VACCINE FOR AIDS IS INVENTED BEFORE HAVING IT!:rolleyes:


this question goes to ppl those who support sex before marriage... now after marriage what if your wife has sex with someone else will you still keep up the relation ? or else... ?

(& even if you continue relationship one will always feel betrayal, unfaithfulness depth within whether its male/female)

some might find your own statements made earlier contradicting to sex b4 marriage and above one.

Edit: eh... I like this new 'Quote +' option, made meh job easy ;)

[amol48]

^^ Ok here goes my ans to your question:

The possibility you said can arise only if I don't have good relations with my wife OR only if there's no true love between us. In that case, well I really don't care WTH she does. Coz it's already over for me !!

BUT, if there's really true love between a couple, then your question becomes invalid.. It's like "Error 404 ! Question not found " :-D. They won't have sex with other partners just for fun or lust !

So, my ans would be, if it's first case, then I would leave her for sure !
BUT in second case, this can't happen. So no question of answering ?!! ;-)

[praka123]

@girls here: I'd like to know ur opinion about the subject :D :) psss...vish aunty?

[hmmmmmmmmmmmmm]

ya agree.....

[T159]

*ex before marriage can break up ur married life, u know the past can shadow the future.

So take ur time, make the right decision and dont get ƒucked up later.

[The_Devil_Himself]

@girls here: I'd like to know ur opinion about the subject :D :) psss...vish aunty?
yea,lol.anyone listening.....


BTW welcome back prakash from 'shameful misery'.:D

[praka123]

^too much experiance :(

[vish786]

@girls here: I'd like to know ur opinion about the subject :D :) psss...vish aunty?

aunty :confused:.... hey man I'm no aunty bunty.... mehul just said it for fun(tease) ;)

[praka123]

^Ohhk then :lol:

[sam9s]

this question goes to ppl those who support sex before marriage... now after marriage what if your wife has sex with someone else will you still keep up the relation ? or else... ?

some might find your own statements made earlier contradicting to sex b4 marriage and above one.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]



I think I very well answered this when I replied "apacheman "......

..
n by the way, after you marry, will ya ppl let your wife have sex with anyone if she likes? perhaps 'with the consent of both of 'em?'

"eeep whats up with you guys, this is not about exchanging your partners before or after marriage ......if this "with the concent of both of 'em" thingi happenes its definately not LOVE and CARE, it f***ing pure lust gratification and if your ethics and morals have totally died on you, you would probably go for that as well. I m talking about sex with the guy you love, truly, deeply, and most of all maturely. If that is the case for me its a green signal, even if as I said replying minniawochat, I am at the recieving end I will accept it with full convection............."

I also very much agree with "amol48" he has added some very good points to what ever I said above.

[harryneopotter]

[SIZE=2][COLOR=SeaGreen][B]
this question goes to ppl those who support sex before marriage... now after marriage what if your wife has sex with someone else will you still keep up the relation ? or else... ?

(& even if you continue relationship one will always feel betrayal, unfaithfulness depth within whether its male/female)

some might find your own statements made earlier contradicting to sex b4 marriage and above one.

Edit: eh... I like this new 'Quote +' option, made meh job easy ;)

Arre dear .... read those posts carefully .... Sex before marriage is approved only if both are willing to spend their whole lives together ..then it dsnt matter if u r married or not as long as u r serious in commitment.

[speedyguy]

Arre dear .... read those posts carefully .... Sex before marriage is approved only if both are willing to spend their whole lives together ..then it dsnt matter if u r married or not as long as u r serious in commitment.


interesting!!! ts going both sides....b4 marriage is approved but doesnt matter if ur married or not...eehhhhh!!! okay....m tryin

Enjoy~!

[harryneopotter]

interesting!!! ts going both sides....b4 marriage is approved but doesnt matter if ur married or not...eehhhhh!!! okay....m tryin

Enjoy~!

oh god .......height of mis-interpretetion..... lets make it loud and clear ...
IMO
"Sex is the art of making love to ur soulmate/life partner. Its not only a physical relation but requires deep emotional attatchment with ur partner to experience the real pleasure...... marriage is not a compulsion for having sex as long as both are fully committed to each other. it doesnt matter if u r married or not AS LONG AS IT IS WITH THE SAME PERSON. Infedility is out of question in this case."

For a real life example ...... We are fully committed (me and my girl) and our next destination is marriage which is atleast 2-3 years away ..... but if the right moment came before that, its perfectly fine for us to go for IT because we both know that its nt lust but love which is driving us to be more intimate. We both knw that we r going to be married sooner or later ... so it dsnt matter that we r married AT THAT MOMENT OF TIME or not.

So u can say that i only approve sex before marriage if we r in a longterm relation and its the feeling of love and intimacy which is driving us towards the ultimate bonding. I think its answers stupid questions like

"Will u marry a girl who had sex before"
or
"Will u approve ur wife having sex with someone else" etc



On the other side, having sex just for fun is not justified in any case nor experimenting with different partners.

This is my view on this subject, and i tried to be as humble as possible and not to offend anyone.

[ssdivisiongermany1933]

<<<<<<< sexual orientation : Asexual ,so cant comment in these matters as they are very complex for me ..lol

[Gigacore]

this thread is full of xxx.... lol

[T159]

oh god .......height of mis-interpretetion..... lets make it loud and clear ...
IMO
"Sex is the art of making love to ur soulmate/life partner. Its not only a physical relation but requires deep emotional attatchment with ur partner to experience the real pleasure...... marriage is not a compulsion for having sex as long as both are fully committed to each other. it doesnt matter if u r married or not AS LONG AS IT IS WITH THE SAME PERSON. Infedility is out of question in this case."

For a real life example ...... We are fully committed (me and my girl) and our next destination is marriage which is atleast 2-3 years away ..... but if the right moment came before that, its perfectly fine for us to go for IT because we both know that its nt lust but love which is driving us to be more intimate. We both knw that we r going to be married sooner or later ... so it dsnt matter that we r married AT THAT MOMENT OF TIME or not.

So u can say that i only approve sex before marriage if we r in a longterm relation and its the feeling of love and intimacy which is driving us towards the ultimate bonding. I think its answers stupid questions like

"Will u marry a girl who had sex before"
or
"Will u approve ur wife having sex with someone else" etc



On the other side, having sex just for fun is not justified in any case nor experimenting with different partners.

This is my view on this subject, and i tried to be as humble as possible and not to offend anyone.
lol,..
"going to be married sooner or later" : in the meantime hell knows what happens :)

[harryneopotter]

lol,..
"going to be married sooner or later" : in the meantime hell knows what happens :)


oh gud thought ....... i was thinking about learning java so that i can get clear my exams and get a good job ..... but i dnt knw wat happens in the meantime .... so y waste time ... just sitback and enjoy the life ........ thnx dear .... u gave me a new direction ...:D :D :D

[T159]

oh gud thought ....... i was thinking about learning java so that i can get clear my exams and get a good job ..... but i dnt knw wat happens in the meantime .... so y waste time ... just sitback and enjoy the life ........ thnx dear .... u gave me a new direction ...:D :D :D
no problemo:D;):D

[Ponmayilal]

You may live today but depart tom.So justifying having IT now,on the premise that anyway someday you are gonna get married and trying to give a honourable clothing to it is absolute foolishness and selfishness.
If indeed you love your mate so dearly you would not do IT now but will wait for the marriage that entitles IT for you.

In any case I abhor this thread:mad:

[NucleusKore]

I voted disapprove.

While I would approve of holding hands and even cuddling your friend, sex somehow seems to cross an invisible line, a zone of maximum intimacy, without the social commitment of a marriage to safeguard either partner. Has the danger of going like, "Fill it, Shut it, Forget it" way.

I remember a colleague of mine once said,"Sex is like having a cup of coffee for me". Well, certainly not for me http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2180/2122604477_1f3f245df7_o.png

[T159]

i too detest the very purpose of creating this thread.

[speedyguy]

@harryneopotter: lol....chill mate....got it now....these r tuff ones....n ya u made good points...i add +1 for me on tat......

Enjoy~!

[johnjjx]

i too detest the very purpose of creating this thread.
+1 for same....

[sam9s]

You may live today but depart tom.So justifying having IT now,on the premise that anyway someday you are gonna get married and trying to give a honourable clothing to it is absolute foolishness and selfishness.
If indeed you love your mate so dearly you would not do IT now but will wait for the marriage that entitles IT for you.

In any case I abhor this thread:mad:

Doing it with the pretext that sooner or later we are going to get married would not be the right thing, BUT I would also add that when you are in true love and for a long long time (atleast 5+ years)and you feel that your mind, matter, heart, soul and ALL equations meet to the fullest your body inevitabiliy starts to feel the need for the complete bond, the final commitment (this can happen after or before marriage). Infact after marriage people get the official stamp of a physical relationship, NO MATTER if their mind, heart and equation are at par, you have the social permission and so you do it, that I can with full convention say would feel far less enjoyble than getting in to physical aspect when your full mind, heart, soul and equation are met irrespective of weather you are married or not.
........AND
I dont have to explain how that feels or when exactly would that person know that ALL equations are met. His body, emotions, senses would let him know that this girl is his soul mate, whom you love so very deeply and uncondistionaly (which takes time as I said)....... and I am ready for the final commitment.....

Now that depends up on the scenario/situation weather a couple then do decides to take the decission or wait, but if they do, I can assure that would be the most beautifull moment one can have in his entire life.

for the marriage that entitles IT for you

One more thing marriage does not entitle someone for sex, It has nothing to do with falling in love..........its just a social stamp an ambiguous permission which you get............ irrespective of weather you even are in love or not.

i too detest the very purpose of creating this thread.

Whats wrong in creating a thread, the very purpose is to discuess/share thoughts ranging all the way from technology to religion to polities to sports to any topic that can initiate a good discuession, through different people, with different perspectives from all across the country and that is what is happening.......

[harryneopotter]

when you are in true love and for a long long time (atleast 5+ years)and you feel that your mind, matter, heart, soul and ALL equations meet to the fullest your body inevitabiliy starts to feel the need for the complete bond, the final commitment (this can happen after or before marriage). Infact after marriage people get the official stamp of a physical relationship, NO MATTER if their mind, heart and equation are at par, you have the social permission and so you do it, that I can with full convention say would feel far less enjoyble than getting in to physical aspect when your full mind, heart, soul and equation are met irrespective of weather you are married or not.
........AND
I dont have to explain how that feels or when exactly would that person know that ALL equations are met. His body, emotions, senses would let him know that this girl is his soul mate, whom you love so very deeply and uncondistionaly (which takes time as I said)....... and I am ready for the final commitment.....

Now that depends up on the scenario/situation weather a couple then do decides to take the decission or wait, but if they do, I can assure that would be the most beautifull moment one can have in his entire life.



One more thing marriage does not entitle someone for sex, It has nothing to do it falling in love..........its just a social stamp an ambiguous permission which you get............ irrespective of weather you even are in love or not.




valid point.

[Champs]

I disapprove

[T159]

Whats wrong in creating a thread, the very purpose is to discuess/share thoughts ranging all the way from technology to religion to polities to sports to any topic that can initiate a good discuession, through different people, with different perspectives from all across the country and that is what is happening.......

majority wins and here the one most likely approving are teen.

[Ponmayilal]

[quote=sam9s;733682]
I would also add that when you are in true love and for a long long time (atleast 5+ years)and you feel that your mind, matter, heart, soul and ALL equations meet to the fullest your body inevitabiliy starts to feel the need for the complete bond, the final commitment........

hmmmm..................one can let himself loose:eek:

...............................having sex before or after marriage is the final commitment:o

When one so feels they are one and only the physical union brings out the "final commitment", what prevents them from getting married immediately and fulfilling the "final commitment"?

Even if they have to wait for the day and then enter into the physical union, is that gonna bring down the bliss???? On the contrary.

OMG, this reminds me of even well-to-do men shoplifting petty things and deriving a sadistic pleasure:)

[iMav]

ok i have 1 comment and maybe my last in this topic:

all those who get the oppurtunity grab it with both hands will definitely help u after marriage (without ranji - national level is going to hamper ur career)

and all those who did not get that opportunity dont say that it is wrong and vindicate urself

[sam9s]

hmmmm..................one can let himself loose:eek:

yes that is possible, thats where the matuarity comes,the point I already brought.

...............................having sex before or after marriage is the final commitment

When one so feels they are one and only the physical union brings out the "final commitment", what prevents them from getting married immediately and fulfilling the "final commitment"?


what preventes them???........need I answer that........but yes I can see your point and I agree that there is another aspect of the story as well. I am not talking about the zillions romeo couple hanging around, half of them dont even know what love is or what trure love is all about. But the ones that are gifted with that eternal bliss as you may put it would know/feel that these hypocrite notions and perceptions are so very trifle in comparison to ever enduring, universal God created Love.


Even if they have to wait for the day and then enter into the physical union, is that gonna bring down the bliss????

no not at all but what has that to do with "getting married". Its this aspect that I defy, rest I know we just cant so very easily neglect the social boundaries...........but my point of defence still remains the same.........Falling in love, getting phycical, and getting married are all independent mental statuses and should not be knot together with social boundaries. There are lots many other factors that comes in to play when one is in love...."true love" I would rephrase......



OMG, this reminds me of even well-to-do men shoplifting petty things and deriving a sadistic pleasure:)

M not getting what you are trying to say here.........

[speedyguy]

ok i have 1 comment and maybe my last in this topic:

all those who get the oppurtunity grab it with both hands will definitely help u after marriage (without ranji - national level is going to hamper ur career)

and all those who did not get that opportunity dont say that it is wrong and vindicate urself

lol....very un-emotional...but good one

Enjoy~!

[gx_saurav]

This thread is still running???? http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/21.gif

[sam9s]

This thread is still running???? http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/21.gif

yes it is very much.....surprised????

[gx_saurav]

ya...I was out for a week na, I thought this would die....will post my reply soon after reading all.

Reply starts Now :D


For The Guys Who Are Agree Please Anwser this question : Do U gonna marry that girl who done sex with your friend ?????

Well, atleast I don't mind. The only thing which matters to me is loyality after marriage. I don't care how many guys my wife had sex with before marriage, if she is loyal & devoted to me only after marriage then I don't mind. If she is not, then she shouldn't expect me to be loyal either.

this question goes to ppl those who support sex before marriage... now after marriage what if your wife has sex with someone else will you still keep up the relation ? or else... ?


No, if she continues to have sex after marriage then I will indeed break the relationship. This simply means she finds someone else better then me, so it's better to let her go

"Will u marry a girl who had sex before"

I don't mind, her life was her life.

"Will u approve ur wife having sex with someone else" etc

Nope.

Ah! thre is too much to read,.

[quadroplex780]

What ever u guys deciede just don't add too much to country's population as I am already sick of the overpopulated areas.

[faraaz]

Well, its a little glib of me to say this but I disapprove of sex before marriage, although I am not a virgin myself.

Why do I justify this? Meh...tooo much of a long story.

[gauravakaasid]

^^although you expect your wife to be one?

[faraaz]

To be honest? No...but it would be nice if she was. But then again, 3 years in Australia and god knows how many I will be stuck in Europe for, kinda tend to make you a bit more broadminded about these things.

[rajananna]

Hi Guys,

The rules were made so as to keep society stable. However at that time people used to be married off soon after puberty. Nowadays guys wait till 25-30 before they are married.

Coming from a guy who is on the wrong side of 40, take my advice. Screw the conservatives. Experiment. Enjoy. You have only one life and only one youth. Enjoy it. The guys who have experienced sex do not fall for the first skirt that comes their way. It is better that way.

Be safe. I am an arch conservisative but say this for your help.

[Kniwor]

I don't see how the two things are related, I consider them independent, and hence see no reason why there should be an objection in sex before marriage. Why should only married people be allowed to have sex, what's wrong with us singles, we are equally capable of the act and I see no reason why we should refrain from the same.

[faraaz]

@kniwor: Responsible sex before marriage is very different case...but you will find that in the age group most prone to pre-marital sex (teenagers), you will also find the HIGHEST irresponsibility with sex (no birth control, no safe sex etc etc) which leads to lot of problems for the both the couple and their families when the problems happen.

So..I say try and avoid, atleast until you are 21+ ...

[rajananna]

Guys,

I hope this doesn't become the most popular thread on this forum.

[krazzy]

I voted for approve.

[T159]

@kniwor: Responsible sex before marriage is very different case...but you will find that in the age group most prone to pre-marital sex (teenagers), you will also find the HIGHEST irresponsibility with sex (no birth control, no safe sex etc etc) which leads to lot of problems for the both the couple and their families when the problems happen.

So..I say try and avoid, atleast until you are 21+ ...
yup, looks like teenagers are on spree in the voting

[Kniwor]

@kniwor: Responsible sex before marriage is very different case...but you will find that in the age group most prone to pre-marital sex (teenagers), you will also find the HIGHEST irresponsibility with sex (no birth control, no safe sex etc etc) which leads to lot of problems for the both the couple and their families when the problems happen.

So..I say try and avoid, atleast until you are 21+ ...

lol... I didn't know this would turn into age discussion (I'm already 21+, and speaking out of my experience).

Irresponsible sex is bad, married or singe. So that's another point altogether and not really what we are talking about, the two things do have correlation, but let's talk about safe sex before marriage.

I'm sorry for all those asking the question here, "What if ur wife had sex before marriage?", I really don't see why that should bother you, she had a life before u, she is an independent person and has full right to do whatever she likes with her life and time, (if it bothers you, don't marry, though I agree it would be wrong on her part though not to tell that to you before marriage). If I like a girl enough to marry her, I wouldn't care if she had other boyfriends before me, or if she had sex with others, it's her life. You should learn to honor and respect the integrity and independence of others, this is only narrow mindedness, nothing more.

[spironox]

I am not voting here but i want to say ..hey if there is a situation any boy or gal will give in .. and if they are deep into stuffs called love they make out.. so what is the fuzz . boys can have fun before marriage then why cant girls don't ??

yeah .. even though i am a male i think its all about their own decision and values that they adhere to.

regards

spiro-de-noxious

[ashok jain]

Disapprove

[faraaz]

lol... I didn't know this would turn into age discussion (I'm already 21+, and speaking out of my experience).

Irresponsible sex is bad, married or singe. So that's another point altogether and not really what we are talking about, the two things do have correlation, but let's talk about safe sex before marriage.

I'm sorry for all those asking the question here, "What if ur wife had sex before marriage?", I really don't see why that should bother you, she had a life before u, she is an independent person and has full right to do whatever she likes with her life and time, (if it bothers you, don't marry, though I agree it would be wrong on her part though not to tell that to you before marriage). If I like a girl enough to marry her, I wouldn't care if she had other boyfriends before me, or if she had sex with others, it's her life. You should learn to honor and respect the integrity and independence of others, this is only narrow mindedness, nothing more.

Its not an age discussion, its about making a general statement which covers 95% of the reasons for teenagers to avoid premarital sex. Face facts...girls in India get married on average between the age of 21-25. Guys between 24-28. If you abstain from sex even till the age of 21...you are already falling in the marriageable age bracket, and the issue of pre-marital sex is largely negated. So...I use the age factor only as a point of demarcation between the groups who should be abstaining from sex (pre-marital or otherwise) and the groups who can go ahead and indulge (since they're old enough to get married/handle consequences if things go bad anyway)....

[Kniwor]

Its not an age discussion, its about making a general statement which covers 95% of the reasons for teenagers to avoid premarital sex. Face facts...girls in India get married on average between the age of 21-25. Guys between 24-28. If you abstain from sex even till the age of 21...you are already falling in the marriageable age bracket, and the issue of pre-marital sex is largely negated. So...I use the age factor only as a point of demarcation between the groups who should be abstaining from sex (pre-marital or otherwise) and the groups who can go ahead and indulge (since they're old enough to get married/handle consequences if things go bad anyway)....


You make sense now, it's not really about marriage, but yeah, safe sex is important..

[naheed]

".....Originally Posted by smit http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/images/kirsch/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=727592#post727592)
Let me ask one thing who the hell created the rule not to have sex before marriage ? .........humans did, as i am a human i have the power to disapprove it !...."

1) Who created you ?? Did you get created by yourself ??
2) If human beings are created by some supreme power then human beings need to also abide by his laws. This is for our benefit - if we dont then only we will suffer.
3) Take the example of any product - all products which human beings have created like laptop, computers etc come with a manual. It works best when it is run according to the manual - if you go against the specs then chances are that yr product will get damaged
4) There is surely a manual existing in the world where the supreme power has laid down guidelines for the way in which we should lead our lives.
5) According to that manual sex before marriage is not allowed
6) If we dont follow the law then only we will suffer.

[zyberboy]

^^Ya that manual(nature) u r talking abt allows sex for humans, marriages and restriction are all human made.

[Count Dracula]

Comparing humans with electronic devices and nature with manuals isn't a strong point.Though to some extent,It is right.But I vote for sex before marriage.For the reasons mentioned earlier.

[hellgate]

i dont think theres anything wrong in having sex b4 marriage.
i mean if 2 consenting persons want to hav sex then wats the big deal in that.they can hav it to their hearts content.

[priyankarules.com]

No sex before marriage...

[harryneopotter]

Once again this thread is going in right direction ..... i agree with faraaz and kniwor ..... no harm in having sex before marriage if all the precuations are taken ( with the consent of both ppl involved ).... but the AGE shld be a deciding factor .... i am nt approving the bulk sex with everything walking on 2 legs wearing skirt .. but sex for the physical bonding between 2 adult and MATURE persons.....

[T159]

. but the AGE shld be a deciding factor ....
of paramount importance...u dont want kids and teens doin dirty things and then later repent over it

[harryneopotter]

xactly

[faraaz]

Also to add, the reason I am so dead set against sex before marriage is that I have had pregnancy scares with my girlfriend. Trust me, the havoc that plays with your mind is NOT something you want to go through when you are 18 or 19..no matter how awesome the sex is.

So yeah..no sex before marriage. :p

PS: Dont give me crap about using protection bla bla bla, we did use protection and **** can still happen...

[vish786]

Also to add, the reason I am so dead set against sex before marriage is that I have had pregnancy scares with my girlfriend. Trust me, the havoc that plays with your mind is NOT something you want to go through when you are 18 or 19..no matter how awesome the sex is.

So yeah..no sex before marriage. :p

PS: Dont give me crap about using protection bla bla bla, we did use protection and **** can still happen...

:lol:

[shantanu]

faraaz : use protection :D lol :D

[faraaz]

faraaz : use protection :D lol :D

Read the PS in my original post...and yes, its not really funny...condoms + pills and it still happened. Thank god she wasn't really pregnant but still...

Scary **** man.

[Ambar]

lol...neways u set a nice example bro....:D

[harryneopotter]

...condoms + pills and it still happened. Thank god she wasn't really pregnant but still...

.

:confused: :confused: is there something i didnt know about ??

[The_Devil_Himself]

now thats even stupid,they used all the necessary protection(mind you, no protection is 100% foolproof except of course, avoidance) and then they were scared to death that she's got pregnant but in reality she wasn't.But I fail to understand why they thought she's got pregnant,some teenage misconception I guess.

But the point made by faraaz is very valid,it could get very scary and **** up your life.

[amitava82]

^^ I have a live example with me, my American roommate. 20 years old and already produced a baby.. :grin:
Got kicked out from home BTW..

[faraaz]

now thats even stupid,they used all the necessary protection(mind you, no protection is 100% foolproof except of course, avoidance) and then they were scared to death that she's got pregnant but in reality she wasn't.But I fail to understand why they thought she's got pregnant,some teenage misconception I guess.

But the point made by faraaz is very valid,it could get very scary and **** up your life.

Not teenage misconception...her period was almost 3 weeks late. Pregnancy test was inconclusive (not a clear negative) ... got it checked by a gyno, and she confirmed that she wasn't pregnant. Dunno exactly how that works...but anyway. Like I said, pregnancy scare...not pregnancy.

[__Virus__]

I'm not a typical Bharat no jeans/no skirts/no shorts kind of. Being a healthy male, I guess its exciting to have sex before marriage.

[Aberforth]

So..I say try and avoid, atleast until you are 21+ ...
I'd disagree. I'd say, avoid sex until you are mature enough to handle it, which is not necessarily 20 years of age. I was sexually active since the age of 16 and yet I faced none of the problems, particularly because I prefered keeping myself in the know rather than ignorance. And I have seen 25 year olds get into the same problems into premarital sex that you mentioned above. In real life, age and maturity are not always co-related, the majority of eve-teasers, sexual predators and rapists aren't young teenagers.

If you abstain from sex even till the age of 21...you are already falling in the marriageable age bracket....
I wouldn't put so much of emphasis in age if I were you. A marraige age of 21 does not mean that every, or even a majority of Indians can handle a sexual relationship at that age. And in case of marriage in India, I have found that quite a number of couples (arranged or otherwise) take the plunge primarily driven by lust (or physical chemistry) only if find that it fizzes off barely a year or two after the marriage. Nothing can replace experience when it comes to learning, and I do understand that some of the moralists among the members here might feel outraged by this statement of mine.

It is not just professional jobs that need experience, handling relationships need experience too.

[faraaz]

@Aberforth: You suggest a reasonable cut off then. :p My system is actually very close along the lines for the reasoning behind setting the legal age for marriage in India too btw...

[legolas]

None of society's rules are perfect, not even near perfect. But, I believe those rules are for who ignore basic human tendencies and engage in some form of danger to other human beings.
if it is consensual, of course yes!!! :D
as hitboxx mentioned, screw the rules.
same society also does nothing against smoking (smoking affects every1, passive smoking cases are more than ever now)
also, in amsterdam, even otherwise illegal drugs are legal..

rules are ridiculous and we cannot dictate them on true and genuine feelings.

[Aberforth]

@Aberforth: You suggest a reasonable cut off then. :p My system is actually very close along the lines for the reasoning behind setting the legal age for marriage in India too btw...
Well again we have ambiguity here...as it is in Indian laws. The legal minimum age a person can have sex in India is 16 years, known as the 'Age of Consent' for both males and females. The minimum age a girl can marry is 18 and is 21 for a boy under Hindu Marriages Act. For Muslims, the minimum legal age for marriage is puberty.

With so many ambiguities, we can't really center on one age that is acceptable for someone to have premarital sex. Personally I think it boils down to the emotional maturity of the individual and the couple. Consensual premarital sex is far better than a sexually frustrated youth engaging in sex predation or other sexual crimes. The minimum 'age of consent' is given just to prevent sexual exploitation of minors, beyond that there can't be an age limit as every human as an individual is unique.

[faraaz]

Spoken like a true politician, aye? ;)

[NucleusKore]

For Muslims, the minimum legal age for marriage is puberty.

REALLY!!!!!! Can you quote the relevant section/law?

[teknoPhobia]

The personal law applicable to Muslims in India is not codified for the most part, its all customary law.

[Aberforth]

REALLY!!!!!! Can you quote the relevant section/law?
The Muslim Marriage Act which put the discretion for Muslim marriages according to Islamic customs and docrines. Although some recent cases of early marriages in Muslims are being challenged in court for promotiong parodphilia in Andhra Pradesh.

Spoken like a true politician, aye? ;)
That was honest, no political intentions. Althought I might consider politics if I see I have a chance. :p

[rohan_mhtr]

People who say that they dont agree to sex before marrige is simply because the dont get their chance :grin:
If both the sexes are interested and they are of legal age then the indian law cannot stop them from doing so , it is only the indian society which thinks this as a sin. I recently came through an article that an average european teen looses his virginity an an age of 17, american teen is 19 , where else for indians it is 21!!

[faraaz]

People who say that they dont agree to sex before marrige is simply because the dont get their chance :grin:


As for the first part of your post..I am a living breathing example of why its a bad idea.


If both the sexes are interested and they are of legal age then the indian law cannot stop them from doing so , it is only the indian society which thinks this as a sin. I recently came through an article that an average european teen looses his virginity an an age of 17, american teen is 19 , where else for indians it is 21!!

No one here is saying its a sin. Just that its an incredibly stupid thing to do if you are not prepared to handle the consequences.

[rohan_mhtr]

Ya I agree that sex before marriage can be a bad idea if your wife finds out about the girl with whome you had sex:grin: otherwise it is ok if that girl is itself your wife.

[Just that its an incredibly stupid thing to do if you are not prepared to handle the consequences.[/quote]
can you specify the consequences. According 2 me if you have full knowledge about sex and utmost trust with your partner than there wont be any problem.

[Aberforth]

People who say that they dont agree to sex before marrige is simply because the dont get their chance :grin:
I sort of agree with this. I have seen a lot of 'no sex before marriage' people get really desperate when they turn 30 and their chances of marriage looks slim. One of them was planning to move to US for 'better opportunities' as he felt he didn't want to 'die with unfulfilled desires'. Pretty change of ideals I'd say.

I recently came through an article that an average european teen looses his virginity an an age of 17, american teen is 19 , where else for indians it is 21!!
The average age Indians lose their virginity is 22.5 according to Durex Condom Sex Survey taken in the six metros. This means it took the survey in cosmopolitan cities of India, where youths were more likely to have premarital sex at earlier ages than smaller cities where over 90% of Indians live.

And I wonder, how many of them were really virgins, especially guys who pretend to have had sex just because they are emabarassed to admit they were virgins. I also noticed that the difference between males and females who had sex was almost in the ratio of 2:1. Which could mean one girl on an average had sex with two guys OR one out of every two guys is lying OR one out of two girls is too shy to admit.

If I had to put the age for first sex, I'd put it for Indians at 25 (or higher) as it is the age before which only a tiny minority of Indians get married. An overwhelming majority of Indians have their first sexual experience after marriage which would mean 22.5 years is an unlikely age.

As for the first part of your post..I am a living breathing example of why its a bad idea.
And why would that be? I hope you haven't caught any STDs of like.

No one here is saying its a sin. Just that its an incredibly stupid thing to do if you are not prepared to handle the consequences.
Anyone with the right education and information about sex, STDs, contraception, etc. can handle the consequences. Unless it is emotional stability you're suggesting, which is another territory. On a different note, if we look deep enough, we'd find that a lot of India's gender based crimes point to India's Colonial Victorian attitude towards sex. Examples are eve teasing, molestation, etc. They are symptoms of this larger malady - a nation of repressed sexual energy.

[faraaz]

Here's a scenario...you are 19 years old, 2nd year bachelor's degree...you find out that your girlfriend is pregnant.

What do you do?

[gx_saurav]

Here's a scenario...you are 19 years old, 2nd year bachelor's degree...you find out that your girlfriend is pregnant.

What do you do?

Give her a dose of 1 MT Pill & 4 Mitopose Pills :D

Seriously, if u don't have the guts to handle something like this, then no matter how old u r...don't do it.:D

Recently, one of my friend girl had such problem. She & her BF mingled on 14th feb, They are not BF & GF, they are lovers...but also idiots cos mentally they both were not prepared for sex...

One month later, she called me & said her due date skipped,:confused: ... I had to meet her & give her pregnancy test kits myself as she can't buy them from the medical store just to test whether she was pregnant or not...thankfully she wasn't & I was able to scold her "abe idiot....why do this if u r scared". Actually, the guy did use protection & she took an i-pill but still she was tensed & afraid.

Despite of being active in this, sometimes even I m afraid, due to which I always make sure there is no risk, but not everyone has control on themselves specially today's youngsters....we are generation X, while they are gen Y. When parents tell them not to do it, they are correct cos they do it for fun, but don't have the maturity to handle some bad situation if they have to.

Unless you are sure of yourself in real, & not just due to desperation or u don't want to leave a chance, don't do it.

I recommend 21 as the age for both girls & boys to have sex, usually at 21 students complete there graduation & now they are out to face the world with job etc...this is the right time for them to explore.

[sandy_bhai]

Say yes to Sex and no to War because condom cost much less than a bullet

[madjeri]

ahhhh.....shut up y'all.....

get some perspective.....when a girl infront of ya ready for commitment..u dont say know..not these days...be it love or lust...u just do it....if u think abt it that much..i feel sorry for the girl....its not rocket science...
sex with or without love is sex itself...

stop making dumb argument..those who want to get laid...go ahead..no ones stopping you..others "conservatives"..dont do anything...no one forcing you either....

i just wish none of ur lovers see this....pathetic....u know this only happens in india...arguing over things that dnt matter...

[praka123]

khor kaliyug! :( days have come that eligible bachelors cant get a virgin as wife :( playboys should be castrated by indian sarkar.start it from lucknow! :evil: (kidding!) :D

[madjeri]

well p u know...there aint no gurantee that u get a girl untouched....unless "U THE MAN"..hhehhehe....but u have to think flipside....are u a virgin ....then u can wish for ur partner to be too....(key word is WISH)....

playboys..kill them..naa u aint strong enough boy....we are a little to el33t .... :)

[bharat_r]

Try discussing this topic in the open in Tamil Nadu & u'll be stonned to death.
Thanks to 2 guys called Ramadoss & Anubumani Ramdoss(Union Health miniser)!

[praka123]

well,TN is such a orthodox in this matters(I liked that stance!)

[Ihatemyself]

Current poll results show hw many boyz in this forum

[aditya.shevade]

^^ What does it have to do with boys and girls? It is a simple matter of personal choice. If the 2 people (or more :D) involved in the activities are OK with it, then I don't understand what business is it of other people?

Why are people so much interested in other people's private lives?

[aircombat]

Its a personal decission of the girl and the boy, so if they are adults and fully understand the implications of having sex, there is nothing wrong in it. Hence I Approve.
However the line has to be drawn with minors. I won't mention any age but like I said that both should be mature enough tounderstand the consequences of having sex (maturity can come at 15 or at 21 or any other age)

[faraaz]

Seriously, if u don't have the guts to handle something like this, then no matter how old u r...don't do it.:D

Saurav has just made the exact same point I have been trying to get across since the beginning of this thread. :)

[gx_saurav]

^^^ I hope this message goes into everyone's head. :)

I learned this myself the hard way from my own personal experience, when I was blamed for something, which the BF of my Friend girl did. Tough to manage such situations...I can't let her down, can't reveal her secrets & can't let anyone kick my arse too :D...

Being mature has nothing to do with sex ok, trust me, this is all Bull****. What is maturity??? How will u define it??? Is it being serious or being silent or thinking before doing anything. I guess it is being responsible & ingenious.

[faraaz]

AND it involves correct spelling for sure! ;)

PS: I think you meant responsible and ingenious. :D

[sam9s]

now thats even stupid,they used all the necessary protection(mind you, no protection is 100% foolproof except of course, avoidance) and then they were scared to death that she's got pregnant but in reality she wasn't.But I fail to understand why they thought she's got pregnant,some teenage misconception I guess.

But the point made by faraaz is very valid,it could get very scary and **** up your life.
Not teenage misconception...her period was almost 3 weeks late. Pregnancy test was inconclusive (not a clear negative) ... got it checked by a gyno, and she confirmed that she wasn't pregnant. Dunno exactly how that works...but anyway. Like I said, pregnancy scare...not pregnancy.

Condom is perfectly safe...99.9% and that 0.1% is due to the manufacturing default, which is like 10% to 33% of the entire condoms produced all over the world!. If the girl still gets pregnant, that would be pretty unlucky for the one.....So use double/Triple protection :D .....1. Condom, 2. Pills and 3. do it during the safe period of the girl and if you are still scared apply the forth protection as well....4. ejaculate outside :D , right at the last moment (mind you keeping all the above protections intact).......now if she still gets pregnant.........man;; either God was determined to teach the couple a lesson or the couple had the baddest of luck in the history of Bad Lucks....:D....

Point made is the one I quote below from one of my earlier post

Doing it with the pretext that sooner or later we are going to get married would not be the right thing, BUT I would also add that when you are in true love and for a long long time (atleast 5+ years)and you feel that your mind, matter, heart, soul and ALL equations meet to the fullest your body inevitabiliy starts to feel the need for the complete bond, the final commitment (this can happen after or before marriage). Infact after marriage people get the official stamp of a physical relationship, NO MATTER if their mind, heart and equation are at par, you have the social permission and so you do it, that I can with full convention say would feel far less enjoyble than getting in to physical aspect when your full mind, heart, soul and equation are met irrespective of weather you are married or not.
........AND
I dont have to explain how that feels or when exactly would that person know that ALL equations are met. His body, emotions, senses would let him know that this girl is his soul mate, whom you love so very deeply and uncondistionaly (which takes time as I said)....... and I am ready for the final commitment.....

Now that depends up on the scenario/situation weather a couple then do decides to take the decission or wait, but if they do, I can assure that would be the most beautifull moment one can have in his entire life.

In A gist.......Do not miss that moment...:-)

To finalize I would say............."Marriage does not entitle someone for sex, It has nothing to do with falling in love..........its just a social stamp an ambiguous permission which you get............ irrespective of weather you even are in love or not."

[sam9s]

People who say that they dont agree to sex before marrige is simply because the dont get their chance :grin:


Really I wonder what people with "no sex before marriage" tag would do/say when they actually get the chance to do it, with the girl of their dreams ready to give her self up in a cozy, romantic, warm ambiance... :D

Here's a scenario...you are 19 years old, 2nd year bachelor's degree...you find out that your girlfriend is pregnant.

What do you do?

You do before making her pregnent, and that is what I explained above....Quadraple Protection.... :D........On a more serious note if that situation does arrives, I'd say be man enough to admit and accept, BUT that only happens IF and only if you really, truly and seriously are in love with the girl, and you believe with full conviction that her fate is completely knot with your.......and vice versa.

But whatever happens, I know one thing, how so ever gruesome, grievous situation one falls into, one would never ever leave his/her mate if the bonding is true, and the Love is Pure. Love which makes all logic valid, every compassion commendable, every anomaly forgiven and every moment worth cherishing......
Once in Love...Always in Love....Chees n pease...:-)

[Aberforth]

Here's a scenario...you are 19 years old, 2nd year bachelor's degree...you find out that your girlfriend is pregnant.

What do you do?
I'd go for MTP as we are not ready to have a baby till we're 30 and reached the 'make a family' phase of our life. In any case, it would be really silly to have sex without adequate protection unless a pregnancy is wanted. So such a case is normally not going to happen among sane couples, unless things get going in the heat of the moment.

Try discussing this topic in the open in Tamil Nadu & u'll be stonned to death.
Which is why I am happy not being a Tamil. Sometimes I can't help but feel regionalistic particularly because of the way political activists like to polarise the general public.

days have come that eligible bachelors cant get a virgin as wife
I doubt it. A majority of Indians still have their first time sex only after marriage so if a guy wants a virgin for a wife, it shouldn't be difficult. Why is there such an obsession for virgin as a wife anyway? Is it because the don't want a woman with experience who'll be able to compare?

.....So use double/Triple protection :D .....1. Condom, 2. Pills and do it during the safe period of the girl and if you are still scared apply the forth protection as well....4. ejaculate outside :D , right at the last moment (mind you keeping all the above protections intact).......now if she still gets pregnant.........man....
That doesn't sound like sex, it sounds like highly covert military strategy to prevent any failures. :p

They are not BF & GF, they are lovers...
I don't see the difference. Aren't boyfriends and girlfriends lovers too?

[sam9s]

That doesn't sound like sex, it sounds like highly covert military strategy to prevent any failures. :p


Well faraaz and Devil Himself were so paranoid about the girl getting pregnent while having sex that I had to suggest to take prevention like a covert stratagy, atleast that way they would enjoy the moment rather getting jeepers and uneasyness think about the repercussion's of getting pregnent while doing sex..........or I might say while making love

[legolas]

^ ^ Sam9s, I second you. The only way the other guys would accept to having sex is if the man is sterile :D ha ha ha
Why can't you just take your johnson outside and ejaculate??
There is harm in everything. This is not an exception.

[teknoPhobia]

Its a personal decission of the girl and the boy, so if they are adults and fully understand the implications of having sex, there is nothing wrong in it. Hence I Approve.
However the line has to be drawn with minors. I won't mention any age but like I said that both should be mature enough tounderstand the consequences of having sex (maturity can come at 15 or at 21 or any other age)

I am not really sure what those implications are, I have seen them referred to all over, but no one seems to be able to crystallize them, and AFAIK from my experience the only "implication", if it can be called that, is there might be failure in contraception.

That doesn't sound like sex, it sounds like highly covert military strategy to prevent any failures. :razz:

ROTFL

[legolas]

As much as you hate to admit it, in the US, minor sex happens quite frequently and is believed to ease the stress for the youngsters it seems, thereby reducing the number of deaths out of stress alone!! :) Now, this is bull. Not because minors have sex. But what a shame that the culture and standard of living imposes that much of stress for them to rely on sex!! (not that it is bad, but i hope you all get the point). Please correct me if I am wrong, I remember hearing this on CNN sometime back!

[casanova]

Actually, I was thinking of clicking on Disapprove but The poll results showed 99 Approvals. I got the chance and approved it. Thats a ton.

Sarcasm intended.

[legolas]

What is the idea/argument of the people who can't say, in the poll choice... just out of curiosity.

[sam9s]

Actually, I was thinking of clicking on Disapprove but The poll results showed 99 Approvals. I got the chance and approved it. Thats a ton.

Sarcasm intended.

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[casanova]

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Wohoo.

What is the idea/argument of the people who can't say, in the poll choice... just out of curiosity.
Two minds.

[T159]

Really I wonder what people with "no sex before marriage" tag would do/say when they actually get the chance to do it, with the girl of their dreams ready to give her self up in a cozy, romantic, warm ambiance... :D


thats pretty much hypothetical, i hav to bridge the gap of seven seas to reach there or vice versa :D

[legolas]

^ ^ Its not hypothetical. Its called blind perception and mistaken virtues. People for example follow the Gita, for living your life by Dharma or Karma to reach God (Krishna had 19000+ wives?, definitely 2 or for that matter most Gods) but follow the life of Rama as a husband (supposedly) to show they are even better? Everybody is corrupt on the inside, now the whole guys community knows about it. Don't start saying NO and take us back to the complex women community. We are just man enough to take the opportunity and act on it (mutually consensual :D ). But, the fact is, there are also many kandas in Ramayana where Rama is involved with the, how do you put it, the girls reserved for the King?? or so it seems. Even though I am discussing about wives here, I am contrasting people's religionistic opinion against the currently practiced monogamy. So, the discrepancies exist and how you dissolve it is up to you resolving these contradictions.

Its all masked perception. Before even you get to realize what are virtues, there are 1000000 of epics and stories and cinemas there to tell you and write it blindly in your brain. And some of them try to think about it again to realize if it is indeed true while the others just cant, yet and others wont.

Same goes for orthodox principles, does any one follow it now? (may be a very very few %, does any body think they would be able to follow the customs of say a Brahmin in our life time truthfully? its already corrupted, but then its accepted, isn't it?) But, you should at the same time have rational opinions and evaluate your ideas and not blindly arguing "then what about killing a person" (even that is written blindly on your brain).
Well, to sum it up, people who are in 2 minds, they are metastable states who could fall either side.
ppl who say yes, have rethought about it and know their boundaries, limitations and the inherent crappiness and are wise enough to act accordingly not repenting for an opportunity missed 20 yrs later. Life is too short!! (even though our human body is capable of living 190 yrs by its design as of now, it seems).
and the last catagory of people have/may have rethought about it and they weren't convinced. No one is to be blamed here. But, I hope you rethink to settle, and more importantly find peace. :)

[utsav]

Say yes to Sex and no to War because condom cost much less than a bullet
great logic :D but sometimes circumstances may occur when you are feeling like to shoot yourself after having sex . total cost can be too costly condom+bullet=
t:razz::razz: costly :D

[sam9s]

thats pretty much hypothetical, i hav to bridge the gap of seven seas to reach there or vice versa :D

LOL....... yea too good to be true eh!

[T159]

^ ^ Its not hypothetical. Its called blind perception and mistaken virtues. People for example follow the Gita, for living your life by Dharma or Karma to reach God (Krishna had 19000+ wives?, definitely 2 or for that matter most Gods) but follow the life of Rama as a husband (supposedly) to show they are even better? Everybody is corrupt on the inside, now the whole guys community knows about it. Don't start saying NO and take us back to the complex women community. We are just man enough to take the opportunity and act on it (mutually consensual :D ). But, the fact is, there are also many kandas in Ramayana where Rama is involved with the, how do you put it, the girls reserved for the King?? or so it seems. Even though I am discussing about wives here, I am contrasting people's religionistic opinion against the currently practiced monogamy. So, the discrepancies exist and how you dissolve it is up to you resolving these contradictions.

Its all masked perception. Before even you get to realize what are virtues, there are 1000000 of epics and stories and cinemas there to tell you and write it blindly in your brain. And some of them try to think about it again to realize if it is indeed true while the others just cant, yet and others wont.

Same goes for orthodox principles, does any one follow it now? (may be a very very few %, does any body think they would be able to follow the customs of say a Brahmin in our life time truthfully? its already corrupted, but then its accepted, isn't it?) But, you should at the same time have rational opinions and evaluate your ideas and not blindly arguing "then what about killing a person" (even that is written blindly on your brain).
Well, to sum it up, people who are in 2 minds, they are metastable states who could fall either side.
ppl who say yes, have rethought about it and know their boundaries, limitations and the inherent crappiness and are wise enough to act accordingly not repenting for an opportunity missed 20 yrs later. Life is too short!! (even though our human body is capable of living 190 yrs by its design as of now, it seems).
and the last catagory of people have/may have rethought about it and they weren't convinced. No one is to be blamed here. But, I hope you rethink to settle, and more importantly find peace. :)

yeah thats why am reticent abt the things going in life, i dont want to think much, just the action be straight forward.

Ever wondered if a butterfly felt how less secure it is compared to the cocoon that protected her in spite of havin a beautiful pair of wings. No, it doesnt cause it never think, just enjoys till last flight.


Originally Posted by sandy_bhai http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/images/kirsch/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=780498#post780498)
Say yes to Sex and no to War because condom cost much less than a bullet


the former many times gave a room to the latter one.

[Gigacore]

Great Discussion :))

[legolas]

Ever wondered if a butterfly felt how less secure it is compared to the cocoon that protected her in spite of havin a beautiful pair of wings.
Yes I have as to whether the animal kingdom other than us thinks.
No, it doesnt cause it never think, just enjoys till last flight.
Both by the standards of science or by the standards of religion or by the standards of a cave man, "i dont want to think" is an irrational argument. Because you just can't stop it. You have already made your decision because you thought about it... Its your thought process, just like butterflies can't be without flying. Its a purpose. Its a compulsion. You just don't "rethink" or reevaluate. Don't tell me you never think!! Even for writing this post to prove your point, you have thought. So, sto