Sex before marriage....

[shirazhansen]

...S**h kinda **lt*re was of India and still its glorio*s ...Why do yo* people bring western **lt*re and think its great .... by j*st finding a way to exploit women.....and in name of women liberalization....h*h!!!!

If u go deep enough into india's history, u'd find that we actually celebrated sex.. ancient literature has accounts of sadhus and rishis engaging in several forms of sexual activities that would be considered as 'Perversion' today.. Kings and landlords had harems, prostitution was rampant, as were incest, paedophilia, polygamy, extra and pre marital sex, etc.. We even have temples covered with sexually explicit carvings! imagine how widely accepted sex must have been to allow something like tht!
And the kama sutra is not exactly a story book.. :)

The only thing the western invaders (starting from the moghuls) did was to make us ashamed of our past..

So if u feel tht pre marital sex is wrong and feel tht u r being indian, think again.. Maybe it's u who's being influenced by 'western culture'..
:)

shirazhansen - Well said, actually the problem in India is, guys have thinking that, they have right to screw around everywhere but the girl to whom they are gonna marry should be virgin. haha and I guess, I don't see it changing anytime soon..

I dont think the 'problem' is unique to indian guys.. it's purely biological.. it's just the most primeaval way in which a guy can be sure of his wife givin birth to his own kids..

Looks like we have some more evolving to do before we can be free of this 'basic instinct'.. :)

[Deep]

Except Gaurav and legolas all who replied shiraz's statement are new to the thread......... does that answer your question or do I have to lay out the beans one by one.......and yea better not drag it to personal war...........

Well, if you are giving me choices, then I would like to go for 2nd one, lay out the beans one by one for me please and also do let me knwo the question I had asked.. (I am still wondering if it was asked by me or shirazhansen (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=828435&postcount=228), to whom I had actually answered haha

[gxsaurav]

I m amused at your guys, all are talking among themselves without having any knowledge about a gals point of view for the topic.

[Deep]

haha I guess we need girls to reply here.. know anyone? Do invite them.. :)

[gxsaurav]

Lolz...some of my friend gals did saw this thread & said "All you guys are idiots, girls don't think like this at all now"

[Deep]

haha, I guess, it's time to show this thread to my wife..

// who is surving superb sandwiches to me now haha

[gxsaurav]

Depp, enjoy the sandwich first, then show her....

else the quantity of salt might just increase due to a bug in toaster :D

[shirazhansen]

Lolz...some of my friend gals did saw this thread & said "All you guys are idiots, girls don't think like this at all now"

Dude, Wat else did u expect them to say? :!:

[legolas]

Lolz...some of my friend gals did saw this thread & said "All you guys are idiots, girls don't think like this at all now"
I am glad they called us only idiots! :)

[gxsaurav]

^^ that is what I "just" wrote here. :D

One gal said "Why do you guys assume so much without having any idea what a girl would want. Sheesh, yahi karte ho kya online sara din tum??? now get up & let's go for shopping."

[legolas]

hey, mind you, I know what a girl wants!! ;) :p
to all the virgin-ites here... hear the lady!! Get enlightened :D

[T159]

^^seek nirvana :D
the enlightment

[gary4gar]

I m amused at your guys, all are talking among themselves without having any knowledge about a gals point of view for the topic.
I would like to see a girlish approach to this.

[praka123]

South Indians except Bangalore/Mangalore ppl dont date :D we are saved!western culture is yet to have an effect on South Indians. :|

[FilledVoid]

South Indians except Bangalore/Mangalore ppl dont date we are saved!western culture is yet to have an effect on South Indians.
Old times have changed mate. Come to Tiruvalla , Kottayam , Cochin you'll be amazed.

[d1g1t]

Old times have changed mate. Come to Tiruvalla , Kottayam , Cochin you'll be amazed.

and its Shrek whos saying that ;(

[praka123]

Old times have changed mate. Come to Tiruvalla , Kottayam , Cochin you'll be amazed.
...even I know and I hate it!what I meant was totally south india is safe!modest dressing!no loud barking!no hindi but English preferred for communication :)
@filledvoid: you should know that,most of us are not into dating :D !

[faraaz]

Meh...I still say the best and safest sex is what you have with your right hand >.>

[sam9s]

Lolz...some of my friend gals did saw this thread & said "All you guys are idiots, girls don't think like this at all now"

If one deciphers what girls think at one given point.....I'd say half the battle is won....:-)

^^seek nirvana :D
the enlightment

lol...... yea right....pure heaven

South Indians except Bangalore/Mangalore ppl dont date :D we are saved!western culture is yet to have an effect on South Indians. :|

They are not saved......I'd say they just dont flaunt....which on the contrary is all what north indians do....particularly Delhi......

Meh...I still say the best and safest sex is what you have with your right hand >.>

hehe....left as well my friend.... left as well

[paranj]

i dissaprove. i dont say sex is not good. its one of the best actions two can enjoy:) my prob. is age and pre-caution. See my age, if ppl go around having sex at my age than think what will happen? Remeber human-body can break all pre-caution so the worst nightmare FOR un-married couples, that is pregnancy will come up. While if pregnancy comes up with married ppl,than they will be happy rather sad. Hope u guys got my point.:):)

[Jeremy]

Better to try out sex before marriage. I did and am happy now after marriage. Instead of talking about sex, reading about it, thinking about it but not knowing what it is I feel it is better to have it (safely of course). Actually I have talked to many of my friends who stayed virgins and before they got married they were full of fears 'whether they could do it'. To think that they had harboured such fears for years is sad.

[T159]

^^lol...feared of their masculinity...poor *******s

[superuser]

there no harm so no problem in sex before marriage

[sagar_coolx]

...even I know and I hate it!what I meant was totally south india is safe!modest dressing!no loud barking!no hindi but English preferred for communication :)
@filledvoid: you should know that,most of us are not into dating :D !

modest dressing-agreed
loud barking-refferin to dogs?
no hindi but english-i really dont see why this is "safer"

[johnjjx]

^^err gues he means d slang language used.

[mayanksharma]

wow...such a long discussion!
Ok, I approve the comment.
See, atleast both of them (male and female)will know about this thing, called Sex and how to play safe in it and all the thing! :p I mean, come on, everybody expects an experienced engineer, an experienced manager etc. So, why dont an Experienced Partner? :D Plus, they both can learn, how to do it good, besides starring each other's face on the marriage night!! :D :D hehe...

[T159]

^^how about me sharing a tasted pie :rolleyes::D

[gary4gar]

I would be frank here.
I approve sex before marriage but at same time would expect my partner to be virgin.
if she is not a virgin then its okay i would console myself with points given here, but if she is a virgin then its Great. there is nothing better than this:D

i am being a hypocrite:|

[johnjjx]

Wud sme1 like to share his 1 nite stand:-P

[Betruger]

Hey all of the guys.. Pl zz one moment..

do you allow your sisters to have sex with their boyfriends before marriage...

Stupidness Thread....
The Thread should be closed....

i will report it to moderator..

[sagar_coolx]

I would be frank here.
I approve sex before marriage but at same time would expect my partner to be virgin.
if she is not a virgin then its okay i would console myself with points given here, but if she is a virgin then its Great. there is nothing better than this:D

i am being a hypocrite:|

ok gary i wanna know why a virgin? bcoz i really dont seem to get thae +ve points of a virgin partner...
the -ve is of course, no experience

[mayanksharma]

^^how about me sharing a tasted pie :rolleyes::D
hehe...most welcome bro!! :D :D

Wud sme1 like to share his 1 nite stand:-P
wouldnt that be much personal and intimidating?? :)) :p hehe..

Hey all of the guys.. Pl zz one moment..

do you allow your sisters to have sex with their boyfriends before marriage...

Stupidness Thread....
The Thread should be closed....

i will report it to moderator..
Did anyone talk about ur sister?? Or may be u dont have one! :x
No offense,but dont start flaming with these unnecessary comments. :| We all are having quite an interesting and healthy discussion here. Everyone is sharing their own opinions regarding the Thread title.
Now why the hell did u ask that nonsense thing in the midst of nowhere?? :x

[dheeraj_kumar]

Hey all of the guys.. Pl zz one moment..

do you allow your sisters to have sex with their boyfriends before marriage...

Stupidness Thread....
The Thread should be closed....

i will report it to moderator..

1. How old are you?
2. Grow up. You arent in a world where people do everything "properly" as you speak.
3. I dont have a sister, but women also have feelings, you get it? They are independant, and can do whatever they wish.
4. Allow her? You live in a world where men control women. Grow up.
5. This thread has been alive and kicking since january. Have fun reporting it :)

Personally, I would wait for marriage, because I'm a romantic at heart and personally want to be that way :) But I dont have anything against people who wish to experiment :)

[gary4gar]

ok gary i wanna know why a virgin? bcoz i really dont seem to get thae +ve points of a virgin partner...
the -ve is of course, no experience
a personnel preference.
also its a feeling, which you get
"you are not the only one, there where many people before you"

:p

[Betruger]

Hi Dheeraj and mayan...

After your marriage life, r u allow your daughter to have sex before marriage with someone..?

"Healthy Discussions" - What do you mean...?

Some of school students can read this thread.. and they will able to test the feelings..? is it good thing to require the age of <19

If u talk about these type of "Healthy Discussions", lot of sites and forums are ready to
available..?

Digit forum is not a right place to discuss these type of "Healthy Discussions"...

(My short Profile:
Age: 28 (Not Married, but im in love)
Profe: Sys Admin
Location: chennai)

[dheeraj_kumar]

r u allow your daughter to have sex before marriage with someone..?
Whats wrong in that? If guys can, so can girls. Sex is like a feeling, an emotion, and it needs to be felt by everyone. You might consider it as taboo, but a major part of the world doesnt. I am open minded. You might be conservative, but you should present a better argument than pulling in sisters and daughters. Because, that doesnt even shake us by a bit.

This is a healthy discussion, since we arent hypocrites and superstitionists. We believe what we firmly believe in, and discuss it.

School students very well know what sex is. Every teenager, and most preteens know what sex is. Reading this thread doesnt act as a viagra and boost your sexual feelings so that you jump into bed asap. Rather, it gives them several opinions to think about, both for and against sex before marriage.

Digit is not a technology forum, its just a general forum with special emphasis on technology. Topics of all fields are open for discussion here, and there is no reason why it cannot have a topic about sex.

[Betruger]

Sorry guys.....

But dont forgot self-discipline at any moment......

thats all.....

[The_Devil_Himself]

p0rn has defamed sex.:(

[legolas]

Sorry guys.....

But dont forgot self-discipline at any moment......

thats all.....
u r delusional. wake up!

[FilledVoid]

@Betruger : Im not going to quote you already but it seems to be already adressed. This thread has been open for ages anow and if it were inappropriate I think the mods would have removed it by now.

Would you allow your daughter to have a relationship with another person. I'm just curious cause you said you were in love so I really wanted to see whether you were just another random hypocrite on the block.

I've been avoiding this thread cause I don't want to debate it at all. btu let me get one thing clear.

Theres a HUGE difference between having a One Night Stand and a Relationship. But on the other hand I think that 50% of these posts are made by children below 21 so I'm going to refrain from being Dr. Phil for the moment.

Offtopic:
and its Shrek whos saying that ;(

Shrek ended up with the princess in the end.

[mayanksharma]

Hi Dheeraj and mayan...

After your marriage life, r u allow your daughter to have sex before marriage with someone..?
Tell me, do you follow almost everything ur parent's say? Logically speaking you are in love. Now, think the same, but from ur parent's point of view! See, ppl are changing just as fast as anything. Therefore, everything reflects to the society. You cant control someone's feelings or views or perception about something. Perhaps, its better to let them learn of their own. Sex isnt a wrong thing to discuss. People do every kind of thing to please themselves. They smoke, they drink, they flirt and even fall in love..like you:p ! So, why dont Sex..? Look, as far as its played by the rules...everything is fine. And besides Sex Education is necessary for every youngster these days. Hence, eventually...you have to let ur kids know about this thing called Sex. And there is no harm in it.
You say..u are 28! However, ur thinking isnt like one. :p

"Healthy Discussions" - What do you mean...?
A Healthy Discussion is one in which everyone listens to everyone else views, opinions and so share their own. Its a place where one feels light to each party to say whatever they want to say in a rightful manner.

Now, a discussion is not healthy when one is not willing to see the point of view of the other. Just Like YOU.... !!
Differing from that point of view is a separate issue. Thinking of these two issues as being the same, often spells doom for any discussion. Thats when EGO kicks in and when that happens, no one is going anywhere!!!! I hope you understand what its all about.

p0rn has defamed sex.:(
IMO...yeah! Very very badly.
Sex isnt a "free" word. It comes after lot restrictions and hesitations.

[gxsaurav]

I wonder, rn't U guys just saying same thing again & again?

[m-jeri]

^^^^

i agree the magic has gone from this thread.......i used like this....but now it blows......

@all

U guys are saying same things again and again and again and........

@Bet......

ok...

[Aberforth]

I really hate such guys. Virginity का आचार डालोगे क्या ?
Agreed. Virginity is overrated, especially among insecure guys who don't have the guts to handle or accept female sexuality. Sexually insecure guys hanker after virgin brides, as a 'virtuous and homely' girl is less likely to demand sexual rights or go astray.

I bet all the people posting here mast*rbate reg*larly....And see so m**h of pornography....Wat other pra*ti*e yo* req*ire..???
Don't make a bet that you are not going to win. It is a sign of ignorant arrogance when a person makes a 'bet' on what he thinks 'all people' do.

You know one thing that there is no word for divorce in sanskrit...
There is no word for orgasm in Sanskrit either, does that make having an orgasm a vile and immoral sin?

^ ^ true. but there are people who claim having sex before marriage is equivalent to that of animals :)
We can use the same line of reasoning and conclude that people who mate only after a ritual and stay monogamous till death are as animalistic like bears and swans. Moralists often fall back on human vs. animal comparisons to assert the superiority of their morals or religion.

Morals-without morals and religions like Hinduism(advait),Christianity etc ppl are simply wild animals.
Actually religions have a destabilising factor on human civilisation. Historically, religions have been conductive to genocides (Inquisition and Crusades in Christianity), rape (Islamist invasion of Rome and Turkey), misogny (Sati and dowry in Hinduism) and finally paedophilia in the form of child marriages aimed to keep wealth or status in the family. Some of the worst crimes against humanity were perpetuated in the name of religion, to talk of religion and humanity in the same breath is hipocrisy.

South Indians except Bangalore/Mangalore ppl dont date :D we are saved!western culture is yet to have an effect on South Indians. :|
I don't mean to be offensive but South India isn't as rosy as you make it out to be. Lets get real for once. According to Google Trends for online searches, South Indian states make up the largest number of search hits in India, for pornography based keywords. The prevalence of AIDs and HIV is among the higest in Southern states like Tamil Nadu. Now these are issues we should be concerned about, rather than medieval notions of chastity.

do you allow your sisters to have sex with their boyfriends before marriage...
Would you allow your sister to have sex with her husband after marriage? Do you own your sister, to 'allow' her something thats all a matter of her personal choice?

....But dont forgot self-discipline at any moment.......
I have such a high self discipline to not throttle every guy who makes a silly remark or asks a silly question.

[praka123]

well ,it seems the cosmopolitan people -that you most of them are ,already accustomed with one night stands,sexual experimentation and ofcourse always take cool on divorce as is in the west ? do you?

INDEED ,it is a rosy picture in many communities that ,the "morals" are followed.

with no morality standards defined,freebirds how can it helps?kids born out of illegal relationships ....:?:

I completely understood what is there in the offer.almost like sex shops,sex dolls,call up girls --isnt all this you ppl demand for?
living or copying west is good.but not by killing the culture ,esp family.

Why not be "asexual" rather than claiming sexual rights as the women nowadays got with feminists?

It is sure better in "orthodox" society(but very well educated ) where women are still respecting their husbands.mutual respect that is.

It is completely different if you come to south side states unlike those campuses I saw in Bombay or Delhi.
here modesty rules.

reg HIV,AIDS etc -what is the main reason? obviously many says "unprotected sex" -then how ?Isnt it the same as prostitution?. Taamil naadu and AIDS -true. there are those lorry drivers and professional b1ches made this!also consider their(those who lives in galis where congested like in dharavi ,bombay) low standards of life.

[sam9s]

Hey all of the guys.. Pl zz one moment..

do you allow your sisters to have sex with their boyfriends before marriage...

Stupidness Thread....
The Thread should be closed....

i will report it to moderator..

Most of your concern has been very aptly delt by Dheeraj mayank and others (Thanks Boys) so I will spare the rephrasing..........will just add on your comment on this thread

the very purpose of a fourm is to discuess/share thoughts ranging all the way from technology to religion to polities to sports to any topic that can initiate a good discuession, through different people, with different perspectives from all across the country and that is what is happening.......................which is what we call a "Health Discuession"

If discuessing sex would lead school student to test the feelings than all the channels specially our good old Doordarshan should be banned showing ads prompting the public to use contraceptives........and initiating to discuess sex openly so that no misleading information is floated....................on the contrary I think this thread should be made sticky for discuessing such topics.......naaaaa....Just Kidding....;-)

Wud sme1 like to share his 1 nite stand:-P

hehe..... man this statemen can lead the thread to an entirly different direction.............now dont start giving phone numbers....:D

. Reading this thread doesnt act as a viagra and boost your sexual feelings so that you jump into bed asap.

ROFL http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif that was funny!!

[Aberforth]

well ,it seems the cosmopolitan people - that you most of them are ,already accustomed with one night stands,sexual experimentation and ofcourse always take cool on divorce as is in the west ? do you?
Before divorce in the west, you might like to ponder over the fact that about 12.1% of married women in India die in the first seven years of marriage, most commonly in 'kitchen fires' or dowry deaths [Source: Crimes Against Women Report 2001). In fact the Indian Constitution has a special section 498 A devoted to such marital deaths. If I were to choose between spousal murder, unhappy marriage and divorce, I'd go for the last option. Life is too short to waste on being unhappy and life is too precious to kill a woman/man to get out of marriage.

...INDEED ,it is a rosy picture in many communities that ,the "morals" are followed.
Of course, it is always a rosy picture for the hardcore radicals and the non-victims.

with no morality standards defined,freebirds how can it helps?kids born out of illegal relationships ....:?:
First, kids are more likely to be born of ill-informed couples especially in the so called 'moral' societies. The best examples are the high rates of teenage pregnancies/abortions in Punjab, Haryana and Tamil Nadu. Secondly don't mistake morality with law, no consensual adult human relationship is illegal, as you put it. It is illegal to demand dowry or molest (eve tease) women however it is considered acceptable by the Great Indian Morality.

I completely understood what is there in the offer.almost like sex shops,sex dolls,call up girls --isnt all this you ppl demand for? living or copying west is good.but not by killing the culture ,esp family.
Straw man arguments logical fallacies and hence, will not make a point in any reasonable debate. People who have a satisfactory sex like are less likely to use sex dolls or call girls, which generally cater to sexually frustrated people. If someone were to legally open a sex shop in any of those 'moral' Indian towns and assure anonymity of the purchase I am sure they'd be millionaires overnight. The high consumption online of porn in traditionally conservative Indian states with good internet connectivity is a good pointer to the obvious.

Why not be "asexual" rather than claiming sexual rights as the women nowadays got with feminists?
Thats a very chauvinistic remark. It is because of attitudes such as this that conservative Indian states have such an alarming rate of violent crimes and crimes against women. What do think women are, asexual slaves that should cook your food, worship you and spread their legs every night to keep you 'happy'? We be asexual when we as humans are designed to be sexual?

Taamil naadu and AIDS -true. there are those lorry drivers and professional b1ches made this!also consider their(those who lives in galis where congested like in dharavi ,bombay) low standards of life.
What about the tech savvy 15-30 year old porn addicts? Should we brand them as 'lorry drivers' too? In any case, with such high morals, how does Tamil Nadu allow lorry drivers and prostitutes soliciting each other? I can see a lot of contradictory remarks in your statements which I am sure you have overlooked.

Incase you aren't aware India is ranked consistently among top ten countries for global sex trafficking and sex trade. Speak of morality......

[tuxfan]

A couple of small question for all the "guys" who voted for approve.


If you come to know that your wife had sex with one (or more) person/s before your marriage, will it make you uncomfortable or is it ok with you?
If it is ok, what if she had it before marriage and for you it's first time? Will it still remain ok?

[praka123]

@approved voted ppl:
In bible ,there are two cities Sodom and Gomorah. most of world's cosmopolitan cities follow the same.dont you think so?

Do you feel cool when gays and lesbians are allowed to marry(same-sex marriage) ?

Do you feel happy when you know that women when they "come out" are mostly into bi-sexual activites?

Do you feel no need for society to have control over one's sexual desires?paedophilia?consequences?ever thought about it?

Do you like women rule men as in the west(Feminist agenda)?

Do you take it cool on incest and abortions?Dont you think it is more in irregular immoral people which most of them are so called westernized and are free from the thought of relations .

When we stand in the middle of both cosmopolitan and cultural orthodox background ,we know it better. :)

[gary4gar]

A couple of small question for all the "guys" who voted for approve.


If you come to know that your wife had sex with one (or more) person/s before your marriage, will it make you uncomfortable or is it ok with you?
If it is ok, what if she had it before marriage and for you it's first time? Will it still remain ok?

Won't you answer those questions?
Since you are more experienced than us:p
I mean since you are married, you are in a better position to answer than any of us

[sam9s]

A couple of small question for all the "guys" who voted for approve.


If you come to know that your wife had sex with one (or more) person/s before your marriage, will it make you uncomfortable or is it ok with you?
If it is ok, what if she had it before marriage and for you it's first time? Will it still remain ok?


Lot of people have already answered that in the previous pages......even I when it was questioned by "vish786 and apacheman " ....but for the heck of it I will quote it again for you..........


this question goes to ppl those who support sex before marriage... now after marriage what if your wife has sex with someone else will you still keep up the relation ? or else... ?

some might find your own statements made earlier contradicting to sex b4 marriage and above one.


ok since nobody answered this I will start with what I think, there are 3 aspects/scenarios I will consider and would react acordingly. If I am getting married to a complete stranger, the VERY first thing I will do is to have a long contended discuession with her about her having any serious affair. I would say 3 situations would probably rise from this......

1. Yes I have a long term relation and I am physical with the the guy as well.....in this case I will make sure that she returns to the guy she loves.


2. Yes she had a relation and was physical but the guy ditched her and got married with somebody else.........In that case I will probably spend 5,6 months with her and let her and myself judge if we both are comfortable with the fact that she had a past and that we have a common equation.......then I will happly without any doubts accept her.

3. In case she say she had sex just for the sake of it since she had a chance........I will not accept her...

So you people can judge what is it when I say sex befor marriage.......its not about "experiencing" sex just for the heck of it, its purly about the geniune feelings and emotions. If you have them and then blend them with the physical aspect there is absolutely nothing wrong in it. And you should be man enough to accept it if you are at the other side of the table.


..
n by the way, after you marry, will ya ppl let your wife have sex with anyone if she likes? perhaps 'with the consent of both of 'em?'

eeep whats up with you guys, this is not about exchanging your partners before or after marriage ......if this "with the concent of both of 'em" thingi happenes its definately not LOVE and CARE, it f***ing pure lust gratification and if your ethics and morals have totally died on you, you would probably go for that as well. I m talking about sex with the guy/gal you love, truly, deeply, and most of all maturely. If that is the case for me its a green signal, even if as I said replying minniawochat, I am at the recieving end I will accept it with full convection.............

[praka123]

n by the way, after you marry, will ya ppl let your wife have sex with anyone if she likes? perhaps 'with the consent of both of 'em?'
there is a word called threesum.it is made popular in family-less west :rolleyes:

[tuxfan]

Won't you answer those questions?
Since you are more experienced than us:p
I mean since you are married, you are in a better position to answer than any of us

Those questions are for those who "approve" of sex before marriage. I am little old fashioned. I don't approve of sex before marriage for males as well as females, especially in the Indian context and mindset. I expect celibacy from my partner and therefore practice the same. I have turned down no-strings-attached offers in the past.

No arguments against those who approve it from both sides. But I strongly feel against those who themselves want to indulge in it when an opportunity arises, but expect virginity from their would-be wives/husbands.

1. Yes I have a long term relation and I am physical with the the guy as well.....in this case I will make sure that she returns to the guy she loves.

If it was possible for her to get back to the other guy, will she wait for you to come and play cupid?

2. Yes she had a relation and was physical but the guy ditched her and got married with somebody else.........In that case I will probably spend 5,6 months with her and let her and myself judge if we both are comfortable with the fact that she had a past and that we have a common equation.......then I will happly without any doubts accept her.

Spend 5-6 months with her! Yeah cool. So just b'coz she has had sex before marriage, she will have to be willing to date someone for a half a year to judge comfort levels with that fact!

And you will "ACCEPT HER". Sounds like someone accepting a burden to prove that chivalry is not dead! :rolleyes:

Just a word of caution from my little experience. If you even do this in the heat of a moment, you will repent that for a long time to come!

3. In case she say she had sex just for the sake of it since she had a chance........I will not accept her...
... does that make her look like someone with a low character?

[Aberforth]

there is a word called threesum.it is made popular in family-less west :rolleyes:
....as popular as sati, corruption, devdasis, child marriage and dowry homicides in morally perverted east. See? Anyone can do that, it doesn't take much brains or reason for that

I expect celibacy from my partner and therefore practice the same. .......

But I strongly feel against those who themselves want to indulge in it when an opportunity arises, but expect virginity from their would-be wives/husbands.
Fair enough, if you keep the same standards of celibacy yourself and do not try to force your approval on others. I resent people who either have double standards regarding virginity or try to force their ideology on others.

... does that make her look like someone with a low character?
If I were to judge, I wouldn't think so. However, I wouldn't date a girl who is very promiscuous, as girl who is too quick and easy to jump in the sack with too many people isn't a viable partner for the level of commitment I expect.

[sam9s]

If it was possible for her to get back to the other guy, will she wait for you to come and play cupid?


Why there can be zillions reasons for her to play cupid, I am not saying that it would be my "Responsibility" to unite her with her old buddy ....I said I will make sure she returns and that means I know she cannot be happy with me if she is in love with somebody else to that extent that she let herself phycially commited.


Spend 5-6 months with her! Yeah cool. So just b'coz she has had sex before marriage, she will have to be willing to date someone for a half a year to judge comfort levels with that fact!

Well again misinterpretting.....anyway I dont blame you coz you havent read my posts prior to this one.......

First we are not dating...... m spending time coz she must have gone thought a lot lately......"guy used her and ditched her remember" but that does not mean she can not have a new life and that she cannot love again. Spending time is just to get her out of her past to some extent (and that to because I liked her and feel that she is worth it and visa versa......which is what meeting the equations means) so that she and we both can have a fresh start........


And you will "ACCEPT HER". Sounds like someone accepting a burden to prove that chivalry is not dead! :rolleyes:

Ok maybe that should have beem WE will accept each other......reasone already explained above

Just a word of caution from my little experience. If you even do this in the heat of a moment, you will repent that for a long time to come!

That is where "spending time comes" which you inappropriately termed dating. Spending time eliminates doing anything in the heat of the moment.


... does that make her look like someone with a low character?

mmm well yes and no........ I wont comment but for me doing sex just for the heck of it or maybe for experince would be unethical however scenario changes if you are in true love.......my theory changes when I say one being in true love.....if you will read my earlier posts you will have a better idea of my conviction.........

[remrow]

if you are a play boy or play girl it doesn't matter, but if you are not sex after marriage is better.

[keshavasiva]

I would be frank here.
I approve sex before marriage but at same time would expect my partner to be virgin.
if she is not a virgin then its okay i would console myself with points given here, but if she is a virgin then its Great. there is nothing better than this:D

i am being a hypocrite:|


Yes you are...!!!! Sex b4 marriage is an act of a lusty man...leecher who can't control his senses.... so bad... he doesn't have control on his own senses .. what will he control other thing???

[m-jeri]

God this thread should be closed.period.sleazy qns.full of it.

One thing everyone.if it has to happen it will.no matter with whom, what or when. deal with it.if u ok accept it. if not stop cursing urself and others.move on.

and i thght it usually the other ones who debates about "it" .. u guys proved it wrong. only in india guys.only in india.

[keshavasiva]

Yes, as long as there is a mutual consent, and they are not disobeying the law (minors), I don't see why two mutually attracted people can't have "safe" sex. Its not like its the only concern between them. They try to work out their relationship and if it works, they get married. If not, they move on (with difficulty of course). I don't know about many of you guys, but I personally prefer this sort of experience oriented curve rather than asking my mom to get me a girl (ok, some of you might just remain a virgin and get yourself a girl who is also in all possibilities a virgin and marry her by love marriage, I accept) but in all sincerity I wish my first relationship worked. If I am an animal, so be it! :) :p

May be its just another life style and it will take sometime for people to accept to those ideals contrast to the hidden demerits of our system too which we have no problems with.


Your may be's are totally wrong dude... Definetely you are an animal if you like such a kind of life style..... Hunting around for women for better set.... This is not a human way..marriage is meant for a man and a woman and not man and woman cumulative or vice versa...:) :p... I am not saying people should change or you should change...!!! after all it is well known that things are gonna be worse.... and get worse day by day as this is the age of quarrel and hypocrisy and i can see that well exposed in this thread...!!! I am just pointing out the idealistic way of marriage which was once upon a time was followed in India and described in scriptures and FYI are real and practical unlike what your( your in the sense ,.... its general and no legolos .. no offense) fu**** mind says them to be mythology....!!! First Understand that marriage is not compulsory....( and not sex obviously.) but being a necessity of mortal mundane human(not absolute) one is allowed to have sex by talking stand of a woman and caring for each other for the rest of life and so should be very careful in choosing the counterpart.... Anthe kaani.. Y do you need to go on marrying life long till you get satisfied with your lecherous desires... like an animal..???? Its a never ending talk.. Its just exploiting woman even if they don't think .... but its the fact..!!

God this thread should be closed.period.sleazy qns.full of it.

One thing everyone.if it has to happen it will.no matter with whom, what or when. deal with it.if u ok accept it. if not stop cursing urself and others.move on.

and i thght it usually the other ones who debates about "it" .. u guys proved it wrong. only in india guys.only in india.


Here's one more hypcrite with no actual substance in what he's talking....!!! just try to put some useful contribution....Andariki thelusu...everyone knows what u have said but do you think everyone's god and knows everything??/ We should try to decideon good bad and then proceed with our life and for that we need a kinda mental affirmation and its gotten from this kinda discussions.!!!!!!!!!!

[m-jeri]

^^

either u live in old times..or ur a person who hopes for the best.
but dear friendthings like this never happen anymore..but it will for good people.
but i dont think i am in that anymore.. :) ... but if u do get one like u said above consider urself lucky... if not sorry.... u have to run with the world..clearly ur not... say what u want..u are not.and one more thing. have u ever considered the reverse?? that the women maybe exploiting the men??? ... u think that will not happen.... then also sorry....

and ur definition of legolas being a animal is wrong... hes young..old enuff...he can take his decisions..so is the ones he meets...if they make it good for them u have to move ur way... we indians have been aping western culture for too ong..it will only continue the faster u accept the better

[keshavasiva]

^^

either u live in old times..or ur a person who hopes for the best.
but dear friendthings like this never happen anymore..but it will for good people.
but i dont think i am in that anymore.. :) ... but if u do get one like u said above consider urself lucky... if not sorry.... u have to run with the world..clearly ur not... say what u want..u are not.and one more thing. have u ever considered the reverse?? that the women maybe exploiting the men??? ... u think that will not happen.... then also sorry....

and ur definition of legolas being a animal is wrong... hes young..old enuff...he can take his decisions..so is the ones he meets...if they make it good for them u have to move ur way... we indians have been aping western culture for too ong..it will only continue the faster u accept the better


Its not bout the times when such concepts existed but the quality of life it can be old new or very or latest... whateva... I told you already that I am not seeing a change... as I perfectly know that things are going to get worse...!!!! I just made a point so that some one in a million may get a life out of animalistic activities( western life)...!!! Be yourself and you say going with the world .. luck etc.... !! Yes no one has luck these days cuz everyone is deep into sense gratification these days and sure that people have to move on... And so I just said that its becoming more of an animal culture... an d u have to accpet it cuz u were not lucky enough to get a match and if u don't want to be then try to set things right with your wisdom bravery intelligence you have got all through your life... Is is a battery in a wall clock wo change every week or something ... Its WIfe or Husband.... its called life patner .. not just sex patner...!!! If you just want a sex patner .. then just go to a brothel.. don't marry.... ( I say again that its not correct but you have a choice...!!! whether to do good or bad... The only thing God Leaves us is FreeWill.)

[m-jeri]

^^

whatever man. u say too muh to prove something which already said here a lot os time..

[keshavasiva]

^^

whatever man. u say too muh to prove something which already said here a lot os time..

no... i don't see... If so then y wud i post at all...
Those oneliners really **** me off... dude..!!!

If its known then get away .. y u wanna even tell me??

[m-jeri]

^^^

one liners are enough for posts that have no meaning at all.

[gary4gar]

Here we go again Nice topic:D

[m-jeri]

^^^

TRUE ...Mods please close this thread .. there is no use in here anymore... votes are a clear win..morals are not...

[keshavasiva]

^^^^ Ya because most of the people are lusty precks... Fyn.. close it...!!!