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iMav
06-12-2007, 10:49 AM
They say late is better than never. But is late worth the wait? That's the question for Yahoo, which late last night released a preview of its instant messenger client for Windows Vista.

The wait has been a long one. Yahoo showed off the IM client (http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/messaging_collaboration/my_next_live_messenger_will_be_from_yahoo.html) back in January during the Consumer Electronics Show.

Yahoo's belated IM client taps into Windows Vista technologies, including WPF (Windows Presentation Foundation). Yahoo Messenger for Vista is a real showcase of WPF capabilities. The visuals are stunning, with elements resizing and repositioning smoothly and beautifully. Finally, from seeing Yahoo Messenger for Vista in action, I can see some of the vector-based benefits promised for the operating system.

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/ymvista1.jpg


End users can drag and drop conversations to consolidate them into single views or even place buddy windows onto the Vista Sidebar, to keep watch over conversations. End users also can drag-and-drop files up to 2GB and send them via IM.

The IM client is a preview, and it's not feature complete. I downloaded the software around 11:15 pm EST last night. There are definitely rough edges and not as many features as I had hoped for. But the visuals are slick for sure.

Federation disappoints. While users can send IMs between the Windows Live and Yahoo networks, basics like buddy icons and many emoticons aren't supported. Also, the preview client lacks features regular Yahoo IM users would come to expect in the standard 8.1 version for Windows.

Yahoo still has work yet to do, but at least the developer is doing the work. I can't say the same for Microsoft.

Microsoft already is testing Windows Messenger 9, which by all indications won't tap into WPF, at least not anything like what Yahoo's messenger does. The question: Why the hell not? If anybody should be developing showcase Windows Vista applications, it should be Microsoft. If WPF is so great, then show us the money, Microsoft.

Microsoft would do better for itself and its developers by setting an example. There should be at least a dozen Microsoft applications that really tap into Vista capabilities, starting with WPF. Yahoo shouldn't be the development leader here.

Yahoo is a slow leader, at that. I asked for clarification on what took so long from the January announcement to the December preview and got an e-mail response from Josh Jacobson, senior product manger for Yahoo Messenger for Vista. "We've spent a lot of time optimizing WPF as it continues to evolve," he said.

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/ymvista3.jpg


Jacobson is right when he says that, "Our engineers and developers are pioneers in this area, and are pushing the technology in new directions and sharing best practices that others in the industry can learn from."

[Link to Yahoo Messenger for Vista (http://messenger.yahoo.com/windowsvista.php)]

Source (http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/web_services_browser/yahoo_finally_unveils_its_showcase_vista_app.html)

cool_techie_tvm
06-12-2007, 10:55 AM
Thanks for the info and the links :)

ravi_9793
06-12-2007, 10:58 AM
great news........
I am excited.......

But can it be used on XP............I want same on my XP.

naveen_reloaded
06-12-2007, 10:58 AM
Looks promising...will try this weekend

Charan
06-12-2007, 11:02 AM
Nice and sexy :D

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 11:15 AM
yipeeeeeeeeeeee

ravi_9793
06-12-2007, 11:36 AM
I just installed on my windows vista.Looks very cool.Here are screen shots.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8295/74328477gr7.jpg


http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7866/95369232um1.jpg

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/2190/19426169dn2.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/743/92870890hb4.jpg

desiibond
06-12-2007, 11:39 AM
damn good. Hope it doesn't eat entire RAM :-)

Third Eye
06-12-2007, 11:44 AM
Thanks iMav for the info.

ravi_9793
06-12-2007, 11:51 AM
Few more screen shots.....

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4809/50742644rj6.jpg

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/3949/94204012lw1.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3203/38027878zb9.jpg

Also added TAB feature...with different color for different TAB.
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/538/38237434ek6.jpg

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 11:52 AM
looks cool, new smily finally....

however, on my system it is very slow. even typing text is slow....eating 80 MB of RAM...it's unable to keep track with my typing speed.,

I hope this is a beta release. It installs at "C:\Users\name\AppData\Local\Yahoo!\Messenger for Vista\"

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9025/smilyqp6.th.jpg (http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smilyqp6.jpg)

iMav
06-12-2007, 11:56 AM
looks like u boys having fun :p

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 12:11 PM
Well...yeah, looks gr8

The app makes full use of WPF, means u need a good CPU & GFX card for fluid operation. I had to force optimisation using NGEN to get some speed in this.

Where is photoshare in this?

fun2sh
06-12-2007, 12:20 PM
mummy mere ko bhi chahiye ye yahoo messenger.......... broadband lagwao!!!!!!!!

hemant_mathur
06-12-2007, 12:23 PM
Doesn't works on vista x64

The_Devil_Himself
06-12-2007, 12:32 PM
mummy mere ko bhi chahiye ye yahoo messenger.......... broadband lagwao!!!!!!!!

post reported for bringing in family matters in forum.

lolss.

Choto Cheeta
06-12-2007, 12:36 PM
yeah so far for the Fun at my end :lol:

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7200/89512769tr6.jpg

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 12:39 PM
Anyone having a Dual Core cpu & DX 9/10 card better then mine, can u tell us how is the performance of this "software", like resizing etc

Abhishek Dwivedi
06-12-2007, 12:40 PM
hmm...i didn't expected this frm yahoo....its lacks what all v were expecting...
its acting like a resource hog like Vista on ma machine...100MB RAM in one go..

hope yahoo does sumthing about dis...v want Resource frndly SW's...


@ravi: dont tell ne 1 where i am :D

bajaj151
06-12-2007, 12:43 PM
No voice chat ???

Gigacore
06-12-2007, 12:43 PM
wow its really nice.. http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/1.gif

Charan
06-12-2007, 12:50 PM
Its taking loads of resources.. but works even without Aero ;)

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 12:54 PM
It's eating 25 MB with one chat window after optimizing the resources. :)

Oh! & this isn't the final version. It's a preview build...so yeah, I can live with the slowness.

You can provide the feed back here .
http://feedback.help.yahoo.com/feedback.php?.src=MSNGRVISTA&.from=BUILD2007.11.30.420

Let's over load them with feedback :P

jal_desai
06-12-2007, 01:23 PM
Doesn't works on vista x64

matlab main use nahin kar sakta..... http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/20.gif

is there a way to use it on my home premium x64??? http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/29.gif

goobimama
06-12-2007, 01:31 PM
@ravi: Thanks a lot for the screenshots mate. Really appreciated.

@gx: Noooooooooo! I hope they didn't touch the :D smiley! I could crack up just looking at that! Ah. I see him now. Fourth row, first column. But he looks a bit different now... I hope i still find him funny.

ravi_9793
06-12-2007, 02:12 PM
This version of yahoo is really eating lots of resources.

On compaq laptop with 1 GB ram...and Nvidia Geforce graphics card with total 281 MB memory.

Y! messenger for vista is eating :
120 MB -->> when open.
60 MB-->> when minimize
80 MB-->. when close to system tray.

Typing speed while chating is alright.

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 03:09 PM
RAM usage is not a problem, with system with 1 GB RAM or even more we can very well spare 120 MB, CPU usage is a problem.

Hey, I need to check whether photoshare work or not....anyone willing to be my bakra :D

din
06-12-2007, 03:20 PM
May be Yahoo Messenger is spoiled looking at the huge resource Vista using ;)

goobimama
06-12-2007, 03:25 PM
Still, 120MB of RAM is a lot of memory for a simple messenger. I hope they make it tighter with the final release. It's not like Yahoo is the only app you are going to run on a machine...

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 04:56 PM
Still, 120MB of RAM is a lot of memory for a simple messenger. I hope they make it tighter with the final release. It's not like Yahoo is the only app you are going to run on a machine...

It's a preview release so expect changes. Hack even photoshare isn't there. Right now it is only a cool skin.

I uploaded the installer at my skydrive (http://cid-eccd256d4687f1cc.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Files?uc=1&lc=16393)

What skin r u guys using? I m using wood.

ravi_9793
06-12-2007, 05:14 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^
I am using purple

gxsaurav
06-12-2007, 05:16 PM
Ravi..can u come on yahoo. I need to check whether photoshare is there if both users are using Vista edition

ravi_9793
06-12-2007, 05:29 PM
Ravi..can u come on yahoo. I need to check whether photoshare is there if both users are using Vista edition
PM sent ..with my yahoo ID.

Batistabomb
06-12-2007, 06:29 PM
yeah so far for the Fun at my end :lol:

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7200/89512769tr6.jpg

did you tried this

Dark Star
06-12-2007, 06:40 PM
^ ^Yes it did not support X64 :lol: Poor Y! Messenger :P

BBThumbHealer
06-12-2007, 07:25 PM
i too received an email from yahoo regarding the preview of the same ! newayz thnx ravi for posting ;)

Voldy
06-12-2007, 08:30 PM
Coollll will try it now

Krazy_About_Technology
06-12-2007, 09:16 PM
Thanks Sourav for the Skydrive link. I'm downloading from there. :-)

casanova
07-12-2007, 08:12 PM
Looks kewl. Will wait for final version.

Third Eye
07-12-2007, 10:11 PM
I am using Y Messenger for vista in XP SP2. :))

aku
08-12-2007, 10:03 PM
We need more cool apps like this for vista... if i'm not wrong, didn't ballmer asked the win developers to build cool apps for vista?

btw, i strongly feel, there should be some guidelines for app developers developing for the win platform.. something like that of 'human user interface guidelines' for the mac platform...
Most of the standard win apps lack the polishness that even a freeware OS X app has.

@Gx saurav... hey, afaik this preview does'n't contain the photosharing and callain feature yet... this is just a preview... remember ;)

ax3
10-12-2007, 04:06 PM
its only 4 vista ...... no no ...... xp users r loossing it ..........