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arunks
30-11-2007, 12:20 PM
Is this true...
As i heard that 7-8 computer dealers were caught in the city for this....?
So u should start using the original
blackpearl
30-11-2007, 12:49 PM
THis happened in Gujrat too a few months ago.
The_Devil_Himself
30-11-2007, 01:21 PM
Is this true...
As i heard that 7-8 computer dealers were caught in the city for this....?
So u should start using the original
how about switching to linux?
which city arunks?
praka123
30-11-2007, 01:37 PM
Yeah,switch to Linux or use openoffice.org :) problems solved :)
yes,for M$, NASSCOM is conducting raid on major compu dealers.also cybercell of police is also in sync with NASSCOM raids.
^^ ya 2-3 months agao sum microsoft and Adobe officials raided here Internet cafe's and sum Computer shop's
max Computer shop's were closed btw those days :(
Three - Four yrs back, in Cochin, Kerala, they conducted raid, lot of shop keeprs etc came to ILUG office that day !
arunks
30-11-2007, 03:54 PM
i m using ubuntu linux :)
praka123
30-11-2007, 04:16 PM
well,Im using Debian Sid GNU/Linux.and what about u windows user(pirated or not),are u shifting to Linux :) :?:
arunks
30-11-2007, 04:21 PM
well,Im using Debian Sid GNU/Linux.and what about u windows user(pirated or not),are u shifting to Linux :) :?:
which linux is that
praka123
30-11-2007, 04:25 PM
Debian,the father and mother of Ubuntu,mint,mepis and others.It is the great Debian.
rock stable =Debian Etch
read:
http://debian.org
^for intermediate and advanced users.i am using Debian Sid which means latest softwares and daily updates.u cant afford it.better use Debian Lenny(testing) DVD :)
I may help u after u install if u want.
arunks
30-11-2007, 04:29 PM
hey i know ubuntu is based upon debian...
but i do not know abt debian sid GNU..
what do uu mean by "u cant afford it"
is it paid one/??
praka123
30-11-2007, 04:32 PM
hehehe!debian is not anytime paid,u may want to read DFSG:
http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract
^i mean the daily updates for debian sid of approx 30MB+.U can learn more about different debian distros here:
http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/packages
stable one=Etch(old packages,stable and more used in servers and mission critical applications),Testing=Lenny(moderate updates,recent packages),Unstable=sid(daily updates! and mostly up2date s/w),experimental repository.
The_Devil_Himself
30-11-2007, 04:41 PM
@arunks:ubuntu is based on debian.its not paid,you're free to use it.Debian is not for noobs,its for intermediate and power linux users.
what prakash is saying in that if you want to try debian then use debian etch cos it is very stable.sid is still in development(in beta stages) and requires you to download heavy updates each day which is too much for normal day-to-day users.
kumarmohit
30-11-2007, 04:44 PM
^^ ya 2-3 months agao sum microsoft and Adobe officials raided here Internet cafe's and sum Computer shop's
max Computer shop's were closed btw those days :(
Who gave the companies, authority to conduct the raids, we have the courts and police for that?
How can microsoft and Adobe officials raid without anything from court?
praka123
30-11-2007, 04:51 PM
^NASSCOM does that for these companies to gain the goodwill and goodname from US and M$ for IT in India! :)
Microsoft only send letters/e-mails threatening to sue the dealers,IT companies who uses pirated windows,office etc.(I know it!) :D
The_Devil_Himself
30-11-2007, 04:54 PM
^^somebody tell M$ and adobe that piracy is the sole reason why everybody in India knows about windows and photoshop!I mean how many of photoshop users can actually pay 30k each year for it?
Though I agree that if you're using the software commercially then you should pay for it ethically.In short companies should either pay for the softwares\os or they should use open source alternatives.
Kumar mohit about ur Reply but
they sure raided sum Cafe's and sealed or taken away the Pc's and issued sum k's of fine and i think Sum special party Police was with them
not much sure about this info but yes they did raided and my Local internet Owner asked me to install Linux(UBUNTU) but once i went there with Cd's he said the were off the Town and used XP $$PIRATED$$
The_Devil_Himself
30-11-2007, 07:20 PM
M$'s loss is Linux's gain so be happy.
All we want is a fair market without any monopoly.Monopoly kills innovations and is generally bad for consumers.
nvidia
30-11-2007, 07:33 PM
Omg!!!
The_Devil_Himself
30-11-2007, 07:35 PM
^^run man run they are coming!!
OMFG....rofl.
nvidia
30-11-2007, 07:36 PM
^^lolz
major9
30-11-2007, 09:07 PM
Its still going on in Cochin. But they won't be able to raid homes.
praka123
01-12-2007, 05:37 AM
^I see!.I know that M$ is now on an aggressive marketing campaign.see the ads in local newspapers about Vista and about piracy by M$. :)
blackpearl
01-12-2007, 01:39 PM
I liked the latest ad on TV about piracy by Microsoft. :)
Shaadi ke ghoro se race dauroge to aisa hi hoga
Anyone else saw it?
kumarmohit
01-12-2007, 02:23 PM
Yep I saw it!
Funny:D
gary4gar
01-12-2007, 04:49 PM
I believe the computer be soon start costing around 1lakh.
with combined cost of hardware+softwares like os,office,AV,photospop etc etc:D
narangz
01-12-2007, 10:45 PM
well,Im using Debian Sid GNU/Linux.and what about u windows user(pirated or not),are u shifting to Linux :) :?:
No :)
gary4gar
02-12-2007, 01:43 AM
I know why you are not shifting to linux:rolleyes:
NucleusKore
02-12-2007, 08:37 AM
Happened in Mangalore 2 months back. They posed as students and asked to buy Windows and Office
narangz
02-12-2007, 03:18 PM
I know why you are not shifting to linux:rolleyes:
why? :rolleyes:
praka123
02-12-2007, 03:23 PM
^ur usertitle and avatar says it all ;)
narangz
02-12-2007, 03:25 PM
^^Haha :D
On a serious note I like Linux but not more than Windows :)
The_Devil_Himself
02-12-2007, 03:29 PM
^^thats why you chose to pay for it isn't it?
narangz
02-12-2007, 03:32 PM
I believe the computer be soon start costing around 1lakh.
with combined cost of hardware+softwares like os,office,AV,photospop etc etc:D
Not everyone needs photoshop! There are free alternatives available for AV, Office.
^^thats why you chose to pay for it isn't it?
Yes Sir :) Shame on people who use pirated OSes even for commercial use. I leave students out of the shameless people category.
The_Devil_Himself
02-12-2007, 03:36 PM
^^and I pity all those who have paid for Vista. ::rofl::.just joking.
Not everyone needs photoshop! There are free alternatives available for AV, Office.
You even have free alternative to windows!!
narangz
02-12-2007, 03:38 PM
^^and I pity all those who have paid for Vista. ::rofl::.just joking.
You even have free alternative to windows!!
Yeah pity on me for using the best OS(No discussions here plz) :D
Yeah we have Linux :) Its a matter of personal choice. If someone likes Linux that's good, if someone likes Windows that's even better :D
The_Devil_Himself
02-12-2007, 03:41 PM
^^agreed.lets don't discuss it here.Matter of personal choice.
But cyber cafewallas and all commercial entities should pay M$ what they rightfully deserve.
praka123
02-12-2007, 03:44 PM
Linux should be known to those pirates and also to those who thinks Linux is not yet to the level of user-friendliness for an average user.also windows buyers shud know what they are doing!i mean supporting a monopoly to be even more richer!and the monopoly is without any ethics(DRM,sueing Linux et al).
Windows and Office work fine—Why worry about it?
http://www.getgnulinux.org/windows/
gagandeep
02-12-2007, 03:46 PM
In Gurgaon, in our Sector specifically, some people were ringing the doorbell saying that they are here to check whether your computer is having Genuine Windows XP or not and were also asking the name of the dealer from which you had bought the computer.
narangz
02-12-2007, 03:56 PM
But cyber cafewallas and all commercial entities should pay M$ what they rightfully deserve.
Yes!
Linux should be known to those pirates and also to those who thinks Linux is not yet to the level of user-friendliness for an average user.also windows buyers shud know what they are doing!i mean supporting a monopoly to be even more richer!and the monopoly is without any ethics(DRM,sueing Linux et al).
Windows and Office work fine—Why worry about it?
http://www.getgnulinux.org/windows/
It isn't a monopoly, sir! I cannot understand why everything is against ethics when MS does it! And if anybody has a problem with DRM, don't use Windows Vista. As far as suing Linux is concerned then MS has the right to sue it! Eg.- Lindows, Vixta LOL :rolleyes:
praka123
02-12-2007, 04:02 PM
^ur knowledge about Linux and M$ legalities are amateure.also ur biased! thats it all!.M$ are unethical when they pimped SCO to sue Linux to say that Linux copied codes from their SCO UNIX.after court ruled out that SCO is wrong,they went bankrupt.M$,now directly came out of the shell saying Linux "infringes" software patents :rolleyes: too good for a monopoly?they really want to harm FOSS and Linux and scare potential windows to Linux users.because of Microw-soft we have the word FUD so familiar :)
keep the fanboyism for Vista!there is nothing wrong.but dont say that devil is Jesus! :D well,devil is Microsoft and its heads. :-|
narangz
02-12-2007, 04:16 PM
No business house is Jesus! Give me one example! MS & Bill Gates are doing in India what even these Tatas & Ambanis are not doing. It is even employing thousands of people & its Devil. Haha!
Fanboy? Who? Its you, sir! I also use Linux & I am openly saying its good. And as far as knowledge about legaities are concerned, I know what's necessary & I am not a lawyer to know each & everything. I am into computer field not legal! I want to learn new technologies not their legalities.
If Linux is so good then why you have to go on & on singing its praises? Let people decide what is good for them. You CANNOT force anyone!
As far as monopoly is concerned create an OS which can kill Windows! Linux has changed but its far from reaching normal people(not geeks) because its still not as user friendly as Windows. You can go on & on bashing Windows. But I am not going to fight. That's it.
praka123
02-12-2007, 04:28 PM
heh!M$ is just a marketing company found by the marketing genius called bill gates.he knows how to thrash other OS and competitors infront of others.YOU DONT CARE FOR BAD MOUTH AGAINST LINUX,BUT I/WE CARE!Linux is not Windows afterall.
Linux is Open Source Community work.we have to let others know that there is Linux that exists and there is no need to go for pirated windows!yes,choosing OS is once choice,but i am just letting others know and potentially move to Linux and appreciate Open Source which is what I and many others want!Vista can get into any ones hand as it is tauted as "superior" windows!but Linux needs to get into masses through community.
and u didnt tell me why M$ is gr8?is it becoz they dont respect competitors :?
and US,EU got anti-trust cases against M$.closed code,DRM,cost,security everywhere except as for a gaming shell Vista fails!infact every windows version failed!I think all India we have to teach kids from school itself about Open Source and Linux like in Kerala.
DRM?:
http://defectivebydesign.org answers it.it is a ROOTKIT.
closed source:well,u have to believe M$ Vista even if it probes ur system 60+ times(NSA of USA is behind it).wow!whaaat a security :rolleyes:
Software Patents?
http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/intro/index.html
arunks
03-12-2007, 06:42 PM
In Gurgaon, in our Sector specifically, some people were ringing the doorbell saying that they are here to check whether your computer is having Genuine Windows XP or not and were also asking the name of the dealer from which you had bought the computer.
oh now it has started to come at individual homes also...
Was anybody caught with non-genune ??????
so what happened to them who were caught???
NucleusKore
03-12-2007, 07:12 PM
oh now it has started to come at individual homes also...
Was anybody caught with non-genune ??????
so what happened to them who were caught???
They were fined in lakhs, and they are sitting and crying now. I heard that here in Mangalore the assemblers union then decided to give win xp starter kit with all new PCs they sell. That's the watered down version of XP. I do not know if it is being implemented though.
The_Devil_Himself
03-12-2007, 09:09 PM
^^yea boy thats what's needed.woot! die *& die!.
windows loss in linux's gain.
I don't know when are they coming to Delhi.?
gagandeep
04-12-2007, 09:07 PM
oh now it has started to come at individual homes also...
Was anybody caught with non-genune ??????
so what happened to them who were caught???
Two -Three were caught (one was even my friend) but they only asked the dealer from whom they had bought the PCand the person who had installed Windows. He gave the number of his engineer and they went. I don't know what happened next.
The next day he (my friend) came and asked for the crack.
Edit:- But I am sure, they were not from Microsoft. Actually, a Cyber Crime Center has been opened in Gurgaon. Google to know more about it.
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