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iMav
27-11-2007, 10:18 PM
it works no more :D and im not the only 1 having problems ;)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624551&page=2

and no solution found yet .... the problem -

update and when u try to run nothing happens so when u run it thru terminal this is what i get:
pidgin: symbol lookup error: pidgin: undefined symbol: purple_account_get_current_error

kalpik
27-11-2007, 10:26 PM
Did you do sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin ?

Also just add this repo: "deb http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu gutsy main" to you /etc/apt/sources.list

And import the key: "wget http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu/937215FF.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"

This repo contains latest versions of Rhythmbox and Pidgin.. It should have Pidgin 2.3 in a day or two..

iMav
27-11-2007, 10:59 PM
i downloaded the tar.bz2 file and made a make file using ./configure and then ran it and this is what happened :(

no pidgin anymore :(

and im kinda lost as to what u said i got that u want me to add the repo in the sources.list file but the importing key part i did not understand :?:

and adding the repo in sources.list gives me this error when i reload synaptic:

W: GPG error: http://www.telemail.fi gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D0AFFF5E937215FF

QwertyManiac
27-11-2007, 11:00 PM
You never understand anything. Just run the command! :)

kalpik
27-11-2007, 11:00 PM
Just run the command "wget http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu/937215FF.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" to add the key.. then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade..

Though the latest version on the repo is 2.2.2.

Cyrus_the_virus
27-11-2007, 11:02 PM
Is he asking for help or asking for trouble?

just run the commands @kalpik mentioned. Firstly, there is no official package of pidgin for ubuntu. Secondly version 2.0.0 seems to work fine for me.

iMav
27-11-2007, 11:04 PM
pidgin 2.3 was released some time back their site has a big image saying 2.3

arre import aur run mein kitna farak hai yaar ... confuse kyon karte ho mereko - run bolo ya import bolo :)

infra_red_dude
27-11-2007, 11:06 PM
Just copy paste the line in terminal Kalpik has given. The Key is like a certificate saying the contents in that repo are safe.

infra_red_dude
27-11-2007, 11:06 PM
Just copy paste the line in terminal Kalpik has given. The Key is like a certificate saying the contents in that repo are safe.

Cyrus_the_virus
27-11-2007, 11:06 PM
pidgin 2.3 was released some time back their site has a big image saying 2.3
I know that @Imav, like I said, they dont' have a package for ubuntu. I don't think they even have a debian based file of the 2.3 version. I could be wrong though

iMav
28-11-2007, 02:25 AM
^^ ya no debian file so i dwnldd the source and thought well hey i can compile it only to find out that i had to come back here :(

grudgy idhar kya kar raha hai ... no 1 is fighting here ek thread lock kar k aaram nahi mila kya

Did you do sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin ?

Also just add this repo: "deb http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu gutsy main" to you /etc/apt/sources.list

And import the key: "wget http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu/937215FF.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"

This repo contains latest versions of Rhythmbox and Pidgin.. It should have Pidgin 2.3 in a day or two.. u are a genius .... i updated though it took a lot of time coz i added a few more security updates .... but the best part i got pidgin 2.3 waah waah ... too good man too good

infra_red_dude
28-11-2007, 01:45 PM
^^^ are you sure its 2.3? I just updated and its still 2.2.2

iMav
28-11-2007, 01:46 PM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6981/screenshotcd6.th.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotcd6.png)

praka123
28-11-2007, 02:05 PM
afaik there is a site which gives direct download of latest ubuntu software including pidgin.forgot it :( no repos for that site.direct downloads!
edit:sry,pidgin is not there :(
http://getdeb.net

cool_techie_tvm
28-11-2007, 02:34 PM
According to synaptic manager, the latest version of pidgin is 2.2.1 How can i update it to 2.3 ?

Edit : I did as given by kalpik :)

Cyrus_the_virus
28-11-2007, 02:36 PM
Can someone tell me, how do I get the same for feisty?

T159
28-11-2007, 04:50 PM
iMav, am amazed that you tried compiling a package.

Gradually u r getting hang of open source :D

Cyrus_the_virus
28-11-2007, 04:52 PM
Can someone tell me, how do I get the same for feisty?

Anyone?

ray|raven
28-11-2007, 04:56 PM
If you cant find a package,compile it urself.
its not that hard.
grab the source from here : http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pidgin/pidgin-2.3.0.tar.bz2

Regards,
ray

infra_red_dude
28-11-2007, 05:01 PM
Now this is strange. It really is! I'm using the same repos as given by Kalpik and the latest version there is 2.2.2!

@iMav
The fonts look a bit screwed up. Why don't you try tweakin them a bit?

iMav
28-11-2007, 05:14 PM
^^ infra update karo i think u will get the new version coz i got ff 2.0.0.10 also if not then compile the package install it screw it up and then update :D

ya the fonts are having some probs i had installed the true type hack i found somewhere and the fonts arent very good though iv been ignorant abt it il see what i can do abt it

@T159: yups i like to venture into un-chartered territory :D

infra_red_dude
28-11-2007, 05:45 PM
^^ infra update karo i think u will get the new version coz i got ff 2.0.0.10 also
Thought I got Firefox 2.0.0.10 about two dayz back, no sign of Pidgin 2.3 yet.

if not then compile the package install it screw it up and then update :D
Yep, I think this is how you got Pidgin 2.3! :D

ya the fonts are having some probs i had installed the true type hack i found somewhere and the fonts arent very good though iv been ignorant abt it il see what i can do abt it
If you haf the Mac4Lin pack dowloaded then just read the documentation. It has the Font Enhancing guide.

Cyrus_the_virus
28-11-2007, 05:56 PM
If you haf the Mac4Lin pack dowloaded then just read the documentation. It has the Font Enhancing guide.

Is there something I'm not noticing? I don't see where he's got a problem with fonts on the screeshot.. am I not seeing something?:confused:

infra_red_dude
28-11-2007, 05:59 PM
Dunno, but I find the fonts a bit broken in his screenshots.

iMav
28-11-2007, 05:59 PM
infra click on the image its resized to fit the screen :D

however my fonts are thinner than they should be and not like what i get on os x or vista where the fonts look better ;) use 3 OSs then u will find some differnece :D

Cyrus_the_virus
28-11-2007, 06:07 PM
however my fonts are thinner than they should be and not like what i get on os x or vista where the fonts look better ;) use 3 OSs then u will find some differnece :D

I know there is a difference between the fonts because I use several OS. What i was saying was I didn't find a fault with the fonts as such in your screenshot... maybe @infra didn't resize it... or maybe it's a bit more thin, but i didn't find a serious issue.;)

infra_red_dude
28-11-2007, 06:30 PM
Arey nahi bhai logon. Just haf a look at these two screenshots of the same page:

iMav's screenie:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8781/screenshotcd6ml2.th.png (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotcd6ml2.png)

My screenie:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6861/screenshotuh6.th.png (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotuh6.png)

I certainly find the fonts on iMav's system badly rendered. Anyways, we are digressing from the topic.

praka123
28-11-2007, 06:31 PM
@imav:M$ Tahoma fonts rocks! ;) install it and choose it for rendering.if u have genuuuine M$ Sindoww. :D

Cyrus_the_virus
28-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Does the new version of pidgin or any of it's plugins support yahoo voice calls?.... that's between individual users and not voice in chat rooms.

iMav
28-11-2007, 07:01 PM
i told u na iv messed with the fonts ... btw i want the same appearance as urs coz as of now vista looks much better than gutsy ....

@cyrus: no

kalpik
28-11-2007, 09:17 PM
Arey nahi bhai logon. Just haf a look at these two screenshots of the same page:

iMav's screenie:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8781/screenshotcd6ml2.th.png (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotcd6ml2.png)

My screenie:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6861/screenshotuh6.th.png (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotuh6.png)

I certainly find the fonts on iMav's system badly rendered. Anyways, we are digressing from the topic.
Infra, what are your font settings?

infra_red_dude
28-11-2007, 09:38 PM
^^^ Smoothing set to Subpixel and Hinting set to Slight. Fonts: Lucida, Aquabase and Bitstream sans.

The necessary font config files and fonts are bundled in the Mac4Lin package, the instructions to install them are in the Mac4Lin Documentation.

kalpik
28-11-2007, 09:50 PM
Thanks :)

iMav
29-11-2007, 12:58 AM
infra i did it but the overall look is much much much better my browser fonts are totally messed up :( opera fonts look to small; ff fonts seem broken :(

praka123
29-11-2007, 01:10 AM
cant u go to firefox or other browsers setup page to choose fonts and their size :?

iMav
29-11-2007, 01:12 AM
tried a few settings here and there did no good :(

praka123
29-11-2007, 03:16 AM
@imeow:this is how we have our desktop!dont know what is wrong with u and ubuntu :lol:
http://www.imgx.org/pfiles/3496/Screenshot.png
^see the font smoothening.Urs dont have :?
i have a news for u!u can get fonts anti-aliasing working by System>Preferences>Appearance>Fonts>Details
^select Hinting=NO/Slight it shud work ;) try and post.also select the dpi as 96 for most displays in details menu.

ps:did u see what i'm getting instead of apple logo! ;)

iMav
29-11-2007, 10:43 AM
this is what i have everything other than the browsing window is perfect:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3448/screenshotto2.th.png (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotto2.png)

and yeah the settings aare as uv said already ;)

praka123
29-11-2007, 10:49 AM
this is weird.see my firefox(iceweasel) settings.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9953/screenshoths3.png

infra_red_dude
29-11-2007, 02:24 PM
this is what i have everything other than the browsing window is perfect:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3448/screenshotto2.th.png (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotto2.png)

and yeah the settings aare as uv said already ;) Hey everything is just fine :) If you've followed the guide then the fonts in the browser should be like that, as in Windows while system wide they should be smooth. I see that you are now hafing a font setup which the guide aims to achieve :)

@Prakash
Even your fonts look a bit badly rendered (or is it just my eyes??)

praka123
29-11-2007, 02:41 PM
^Im using a samtron 56V 15" CRT monitor and i have used sans,Luxi sans,Tahoma,Bitstream vera sans etc.I have SPR off(why i need it :?: )may be u need an eye checkup 8)

infra_red_dude
29-11-2007, 03:04 PM
may be u need an eye checkup 8)
Lolz.. :D Mebbe yes! ;)

Here's my screenshot of the same page:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1577/screenshot1ca0.png

We are again digressing from the topic. I think we should haf a thread about font rendering! :D

praka123
29-11-2007, 03:07 PM
^well,I'm on Debian Sid resolution is 800x600@85Hz max supported.so it looks big ;) and I think the fonts anti-aliasing is enough.I can make it more sharp.but i liked this way,old windows cleartype habits :D

u guys watching thread :D just say which is good? :)

infra_red_dude
29-11-2007, 03:08 PM
Hehe.. ok, No more comments on Fonts!! ;)

Too much of zooming into pics and correcting that "extra pixel" for Mac4Lin icons is showing its effects, I guess! :D :D :D

iMav
29-11-2007, 05:50 PM
@infra u mean to say that my fonts will be like taht :?

infra_red_dude
29-11-2007, 06:08 PM
^^^ Yes, but if wanna change to what I haf here then download these 2 files. As root place them in /etc/fonts, replacing the orignal files (after taking a backup of original files). Except these two files delete all other files (again, after taking a backup).

BTW I dunno why you are hafing trouble with your setup. Thats exactly how it is in Windows.

iMav
29-11-2007, 06:23 PM
windows' in window display is also same as what is the overall look the fonts look a lot thin and broken now (that is only the forum or other website text)

infra_red_dude
29-11-2007, 06:34 PM
^^^ Errr... I didn't get you.

Mebbe we should start another thread on Font Tweaking. It would help others as well :)

T159
29-11-2007, 06:48 PM
windows' in window display is also same as what is the overall look the fonts look a lot thin and broken now (that is only the forum or other website text)
try no squint (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2592) extension for firefox

Search in add/remove programs microsoft core fonts, install'em

Now in appearance>fonts select "Verdana" with appopriate size, in details select slight and subpixel(LCDs)

it worked for me

iMav
29-11-2007, 07:22 PM
it is set to slight & subpixel but still its only web sites that are messed up - opera is worst hit and ff is looking bad really bad

gary4gar
29-11-2007, 08:19 PM
arre import aur run mein kitna farak hai yaar ... confuse kyon karte ho mereko - run bolo ya import bolo :)


you sound like a kid:D

Cyrus_the_virus
29-11-2007, 08:31 PM
you sound like a kid:D
That's coz he is one:cool:

iMav
29-11-2007, 11:26 PM
abey uncle log :D

ok the font thing is driving me nuts .... i cant bear the ff fonts ... help me please some 1

praka123
30-11-2007, 06:51 AM
First,do u have a non-CRT monitor?do u have LCD/TFT monitor?
^then u need to enable sup-pixel rendering.enable it in font preferences.
secondly does freetype module loads?firefox too afaik depends on that!
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep freetype ideally,in ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf file,u may have:

Section "Files"
Fontpath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
Fontpath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
Fontpath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
Fontpath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
Fontpath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
Fontpath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
Fontpath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
# path to defoma fonts
Fontpath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "glx"
Load "ddc"
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "bitmap"
Load "int10"
Load "vbe"
EndSection
^as for an nvidia user,disable "dri" module is a must.dont care for it in ubuntu though.
just show the o/p of :
xrdb -query | grep antialias also in a terminal start firefox as follows open this forum page ;) and see whether font anti-aliasing works or not:
GDK_USE_XFT=1 firefox
Also what is ur display resolution and frequency?and do u have in Ubuntu the same resolution and frequency as in ur preferred Vista?
also post the o/p of:
xdpyinfo |grep dimen xdpyinfo |grep reso
and if ur courageous, u can try below command in terminal and read the options to manage fonts: :p
sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig fontconfig-config
Post ur results!no single answer please!

PS:my nvidia device section in xorg.conf is as below:

Section "Device"
Identifier "nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7300 GT]"
Driver "nvidia"
Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "AddARGBVisuals" "True"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
Option "NoLogo" "True"
Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE"
Option "DPI" "96 x 96"
EndSection
;)

infra_red_dude
30-11-2007, 12:24 PM
ok the font thing is driving me nuts .... i cant bear the ff fonts ... help me please some 1
Just use the font settings I've shown in the screenshot above. That would mostly solve your problem in FF.

iMav
30-11-2007, 12:48 PM
its almost the same thing only a few fonts which arent there iv used some replacement

infra_red_dude
30-11-2007, 12:53 PM
Don't use any of the MS fonts (Ariel, Tahoma, Verdana etc.) They are the ones that are modified to look like that in Windows (and hence thin).