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MetalheadGautham
22-11-2007, 08:32 PM
I decided to start eXperimenting with Ubuntu. So Obviously, I got lots of questions for you. So here in this thread, I decided to ask all my questions, instead of starting a new thread for every new problem.

First my system config:

Acer AC713 17" big bulging screen ugly black monitor.
Tech Com 2.1 speakers with the speaker holder of Right speaker broken and fixed with feviquick
Digital(its the damn company name) 15 min 600 W ups
iBall keyboard and mouse(optical wired) - the enter key often gets stuck, the mouse sensor aint too good.
Some damn tower - dust the only solution
Sony DVD+-R, +-RW, RAM, etc 18x dvd rw drive - quite good actually...
intel pentium 4 processor 2.66 GHz - uber cool... not
256 mb(241 mb usable) DDR DRAM the highest RAM in this forum(if I wrote this in 1995)
486.3 mb swap

intel GMA 900 for HD(high dreadfulness) graphics
samsung 80 GB HDD - 40 GB ought to be enough for anybody(I mean my grandfather during the 80s)ubuntu linux 7.04 feisty fawn
micro$oft window$ xp $p2

Comming to the Troubles:


>> Read My Last few posts for them ;)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4690/myubuntuvl6.png

...And more yet to come.

praka123
22-11-2007, 08:44 PM
for all video player queries,make sure u have in player configuration video driver is selected as "xv".also enable postprocessing etc in xine and mplayer manually.make deinterlacing by default.I uses xine-ui and gmplayer.so cant comment more on gxine,but it sure have config options.mplayer shud be playing if w32codecs are installed.make sure u have installed all important gstreamer0.10-** plugins.

256MB RAM is enough for feisty to work flawlessly.
Xubuntu(xfce) can be faster on ur system than Ubuntu(Gnome) or Kubuntu(kde)

search in synaptic for all themes.u can install.also install gdm-themes,metacity-themes if ur on Gnome Ubuntu.

middle button is used for caching data in Linux,if u refer to mozilla browsers like firefox,u can set option in firefox to have the drag feature.

MetalheadGautham
23-11-2007, 10:37 AM
er... parka, I updated my post to tell all things.

and I use xv

w32 codecs dont work.

to place them, I used this launcher to drag and drop a folder to get root file manager privilages:
gksudo "gnome-open %u"
UPDATE: I figured out the theme installation part... There is an app under add/remove>extras. the Linsta theme from gnome look along with ubuntustudio's icons truely rocks.

here is a snap (http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4690/myubuntuvl6.png)

iMav
23-11-2007, 10:38 AM
But I realised that functionality is more important than pride. So:rolleyes: ;)

MetalheadGautham
23-11-2007, 10:40 AM
you may laugh iMav, but atleast I did not screw up like you:razz:

iMav
23-11-2007, 10:46 AM
you may laugh iMav, but atleast I did not screw up like you:razz: :lol: i wasnt the 1 who screwed up ;) cant help it wen using something screwed up :D (sorry praksah sir cudnt resist)

MetalheadGautham
23-11-2007, 10:52 AM
the best way to do things is to start from the defaults and make your way to the customisations. I applied the same principle I used to learn windows in linux. Despite the time gap, I am learning linux at a dramatically faster rate than I did windows. so iMavji, your mistake was that you tried to do things too fast. Always follow the right learning curve. You tried to rush with things.

...OMG! what happened to my problem? we have started to discuss something else here instead of what we were supposed to:lol:

praka123
23-11-2007, 11:52 AM
am getting confused by ur "colorful" questions :D .format it or ask one by one. let other members try to answer.will try to reply first 2 :D
1.do u use esd also?make ur audio to esd if it doesnot play.with garbled video,i can think of only one thing,bugs!esp in ur xorg-video-intel driver.try X11 and see whether it is garbled or not.also with wmv i too felt frames dropping/hanging.
also did i mention that u have to choose in xine-ui config as "master of the universe" and try checking Xvideo is available.same with gxine config too.
also garbled video sounds like video is not playing :?
another thing is do u have 2D/3D DRI working?
try in a terminal "glxinfo |grep render"

2.did u enabled postprocessing in mplayer>preferenceS>misc tab?I dont know which value shud be there.try it.same to xine also.also make deinterlacing default.
3.ur config is more than enough for running ubuntu with Gnome and vanilla compiz effects installed.if possible make ur swap atleast 500MB.
4.Kde distros like suse or kubuntu will be more resource hungry,but u can use with ur config.but i recommend Ubuntu or Xubuntu(Xfce)
5.sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install alien -will solve.for doubts read "man alien"
6.icons can be changed in menu System>preferences>Appearance or "themes" in feisty.u can manually add icon set by dragging to customize theme dialog.and "customize" option allows all these changes.also themes are resting in /usr/share/themes dir.go to ur theme and edit as needed if u want(not recommended)
7.u can rollup windows by going to system>preferences>window>titlebar>rollup -for windows rolling up.
for middle click button,in linux it is used for pasting selected portions,auto scrolling is not set default.if u need autoscroll only in firefox browser go to its edit>preferences>advanced>autoscroll option.
8.had u installed w32codecs?then,it shud work
9.which i dont experiance here.may be some extension can help u :o
10.u can reinstall using synaptic manager which is in ur System>admin menu.
use it.also ur downloaded packages are backed in /var/cache/apt/archives/ dir.
u can do from terminal as "sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename"
or u can install using "sudo dpkg -i urlocal package"
11.xmms uses gtk1.2 which is obsolete.the workaround is to edit ur ~/.gtkrc-1.2 some files(oops!forgot,but i think i have explained in tipsntricks sticky) .I recommend u remove all gtk1.2 apps out of ur box.use gtk2 based winamp clone beep-media-player(bmp) which got all plugins ready.else use audacious. :)
12.i had bad experiance with istanbul session recorder.i recommend 'gtk-recordmydesktop' :) BTW,u can press once in the red/green radio button shown on gnome-top panel when istanbul is launched for recording the session.(but not sure about its reliability!)
13.u have to mount the iso as loop ie,like sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /user/dvd.iso /mnt/ .then u have to edit grub of ur current ubuntu to launch the mounted installer to trigger.I forgot the steps.but one of our members wrote a guide on this: :)
http://www.foresightlinux.org/forum/topic/1/4/
http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html[/URL]
also google and search ubuntuforums for precise steps.
14.am not much into multimedia,but searching in synaptic will show u lot of gui softwares like devede,avidemux,transcode etc.and mencoder is one of the best.but it needs terminal usage.
15.that i dont know :( i am zero in gaming.
16.install mozilla-mplayer,mozplugger etc for that.even totem-gstreamer browser plugin is there!also install latest flash9 beta from [URL="http://labs.adobe.com/"]http://labs.adobe.com (http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html)
If u have too much queries,why dont u try IRC? in freenode lot of Linux/ubuntu rooms are there.try!yes,the client is xchat-gnome.
I think it is exhaustive to reply to each as essay,so bear with it :)

infra_red_dude
23-11-2007, 07:21 PM
Nicely put up post with all the details :) I will answer your questions in my capacity.

>> I feel that 256 mb ram, 2.66 ghz prossessor and gma 900 are not good enough for ubuntu. Am I right or wrong? should I move to another OS?
If you wanna use Gutsy - 7.10 then wid 256mb RAM I'd suggest Xubuntu than Ubuntu. But Ubuntu Feisty - 7.04 will work fine on this system.

>> Will kubuntu or suse work well in my config?
I don't see any reason why it should NOT work!

>> Where can I get an rpm to deb convertor?
You can install the package "alien". Use Synaptic or from command line type "sudo apt-get install alien"

>> How do I use custom icons for certain filetypes? Where should I place the PNGs?
From the file manager goto /home/<user name>/.icons/<Your icon theme>/<scalable folder or the icon size folder - usually 48>/mimetypes

This folder contains the icon theme and files. If you are using the default theme then the folder is /usr/share/icons/<icon theme>/<scalable folder or the icon size folder - usually 48>/mimetypes

>> Why can't I use middle click for the slide up/down function as in windows? I miss it a lot.
No idea. I use Touchpad but there surely is a way out :)

>> Why does firefox open links from the digit forum in new window when I specified that new pages should be opened in a new tab? In the firefox of XP, I get no troubles. Is it because there is no force open all new-window links in new tab option in ubuntu-firefox? I really need that feature.
I do not face this problem. There surely is some configuration required to set things right.

>> how do I reinstall(make a fresh download of it and install it after erazing the current install) a program/package?
Use Synaptic or apt-get to remove the software. You may use the command "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove dependencies. To clean up to a more deeper level you can goto Synaptic then on the lower left corner click the Button "Status". Now on the Left pane goto "Not install residual config" to remove all redundant config files. Finally, as root, you can goto /var/cache/apt/archive and delete all the cached installation files.

>> This one I really need a fix for. XMMS does not show any text on right clicking. I get something like this in the menu:< >, < L>, < shift+l>, etc. here the menu item is enclosed in angle braces.
Sincere advice: Don't use XMMS. Use audacious instead. To solve this "no text" problem just Change the Language and Locale to US English in System>Admin.

>> Can anybody tell me how exactly to use Istanbul Session Recorder?
I'd suggest you use "gtk-recordmydesktop" instead. Its easy and fast. Just launch, select the Video and Audio quality on a 1 to 100 scale and click Record. Thats it!

>> I want a transcoading, audio extracting, transmuxing solution for ubuntu. I had SUPER©, Media Coder and dBpoweramp for windows. What for ubuntu-linux? I need GUIed functionality here, because I am a multimedia power user. I care about my codecs.
If this is your requirement then I'd suggest you install UbuntuStudio. It has almost everything you want out of the box!!

...And more yet to come.
Sure, bring them on! :)

@Prakash
Yaar, are you required to pay something everytime you press Enter key??!! ;) :D

MetalheadGautham
23-11-2007, 07:25 PM
thanks IRD... That was great help.

how much more ram should I add to my PC? I want to keep costs minimal.

iMav
23-11-2007, 07:27 PM
for media player im using Exaile and i tried alien pretty useful at times :)

praka123
23-11-2007, 07:34 PM
@metalhead:I had formatted my reply post :D hope it helps :)

infra_red_dude
24-11-2007, 12:16 AM
if you already haf 256mb then get another 256mb or 512mb if you can afford.

MetalheadGautham
24-11-2007, 09:18 AM
if you already haf 256mb then get another 256mb or 512mb if you can afford.

the problem is that my dad thinks more ram means more games. so I need to buy it on my own;)

infra_red_dude
24-11-2007, 12:49 PM
^^^ Haha... interesting inference! ;)

iMav
24-11-2007, 03:35 PM
This folder contains the icon theme and files. If you are using the default theme then the folder is /usr/share/icons/<icon theme>/<scalable folder or the icon size folder - usually 48>/mimetypes

the folder /home/<my username>/.icons is empty :confused:

vish786
24-11-2007, 06:59 PM
many long posts here so didnt check all which has replied to ur Q's..

you can run kubuntu & suse with ur config though Suse would work little slow.

Where can I get an rpm to deb convertor? alien would work or rpm2deb converter requirements for this are KDE & Alien (http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Convert-rpm2deb-11999.shtml)
how do I reinstall(make a fresh download of it and install it after erazing the current install) a program/package? uninstall is nothing but removing packages in any distro.
This one I really need a fix for. XMMS does not show any text on right clicking. I get something like this in the menu:< >, < L>, < shift+l>, etc. here the menu item is enclosed in angle braces.

change lang to English US

I want to install gutsy. I got it the day it came out, and I even have the DVD iso. How do I install it from the ISO? I tried mounting it, but I don't know what to do next. I can't use my Drive as its not connected properly.
http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Install_any_Linux_distro_directly_from_hard_disk_w ithout_burning_any_DVD

Where can I get Counter-Strike Condition Zero or a similer game for Ubuntu running in my configuration? download Cedega or crossover office or use wine.. use them to run Condition Zero.. no need of downloading seperate CS linx ver

the folder /home/<my username>/.icons is empty :confused:
path IRD has given is different... recheck is post.

infra_red_dude
24-11-2007, 10:18 PM
the folder /home/<my username>/.icons is empty :confused:
Check both these folders:
/home/<user name>/.icons/<Your icon theme>
and
/usr/share/icons/<icon theme>/

If the icon theme is installed only for the current user then its the former. For system-wide installation its the latter.

MetalheadGautham
29-11-2007, 12:37 AM
and how do I convert PNGs to SVGs for use in the theme?
thats one thing I really need to do, as all my icons are png.

lols, that was post #100

praka123
29-11-2007, 12:41 AM
well,for me gimp does the job! ;)

ray|raven
29-11-2007, 09:17 AM
IMO Gimp sucks with SVG's.
Inkscape does a better job.
You could make the image a true SVG by opening it in inkscape and using the option "Trace Bitmap" to create a trace of the image.

You can then use the traced image like a vector image.

Regards,
ray

infra_red_dude
29-11-2007, 02:39 PM
and how do I convert PNGs to SVGs for use in the theme?
thats one thing I really need to do, as all my icons are png.

lols, that was post #100
Easiest way, if you haf GNOME installed: Right click on the .svg file and select Open With > gThumb Imager Viewer. Once the image opens, goto Tools > Convert Format. Select appropriate settings and its done :) You can even resize your images.

MetalheadGautham
08-12-2007, 10:04 PM
Easiest way, if you haf GNOME installed: Right click on the .svg file and select Open With > gThumb Imager Viewer. Once the image opens, goto Tools > Convert Format. Select appropriate settings and its done :) You can even resize your images.
abe yaar I wanted to do pbg to svg, not svg to png

infra_red_dude
08-12-2007, 11:27 PM
Inkscape and GIMP will do just fine :)

mehulved
08-12-2007, 11:58 PM
then there's imagemagick, nifty.

mediator
09-12-2007, 03:21 AM
@MHG : Guess u shud bookmark this (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy) and since u r new, then u'll be needing a list of alternatives most probably!

http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/11/22/windows-software-linux-software/
http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html

MetalheadGautham
09-12-2007, 10:30 PM
@MHG : Guess u shud bookmark [/URL][URL="http://ubuntuguide.org"]this (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy) and since u r new, then u'll be needing a list of alternatives most probably!

http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/11/22/windows-software-linux-software/
http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html

thanks for the bookmarks, but I am not THAT new. I learn fast:cool:

and I still did not get any advice on weather I should upgrade from my ubuntu-feisty to ubuntu-gutsy or xubuntu-gutsy. This is the biggest question I have, with only 256MB DDR DRAM and P4 2.66 GHz.

T159
09-12-2007, 10:33 PM
thanks for the bookmarks, but I am not THAT new. I learn fast:cool:

and I still did not get any advice on weather I should upgrade from my ubuntu-feisty to ubuntu-gutsy or xubuntu-gutsy. This is the biggest question I have, with only 256MB DDR DRAM and P4 2.66 GHz. use xfce manager, xubuntu

mediator
09-12-2007, 10:50 PM
thanks for the bookmarks, but I am not THAT new. I learn fast:cool:

and I still did not get any advice on weather I should upgrade from my ubuntu-feisty to ubuntu-gutsy or xubuntu-gutsy. This is the biggest question I have, with only 256MB DDR DRAM and P4 2.66 GHz. Practically I've experienced that Ubuntu 7.04 doesn't work smoothly with 256MB RAM. Edgy that I have on Lappy works nicely with 512 MB RAM.

So I guess u shud take a peek on fluxbox. Its kinda geeky!! Also, I've experienced Suse 10/10.2, Fedora 7 to be working nicely with 256 MB RAM. So u may try them also.

Ur processor speed is fine and better than mine. So its no hurdle!! Neways if u feel that u must go with Ubuntu than I suggest u increase the RAM.

MetalheadGautham
09-12-2007, 11:27 PM
Practically I've experienced that Ubuntu 7.04 doesn't work smoothly with 256MB RAM. Edgy that I have on Lappy works nicely with 512 MB RAM.

So I guess u shud take a peek on fluxbox. Its kinda geeky!! Also, I've experienced Suse 10/10.2, Fedora 7 to be working nicely with 256 MB RAM. So u may try them also.

Ur processor speed is fine and better than mine. So its no hurdle!! Neways if u feel that u must go with Ubuntu than I suggest u increase the RAM.
but many people say otherwise. I can do everything in 7.04, ecept playing songs while writing DVDs and using more than two programs while running gDesklets

fluxbox? you mean the one in Dyne:Bolic? A complete no-no as of now, unless I try to learn it for a week

How the hell can SuSE 10.2 work nicely in 256 mb ram when it even refuses to boot live in my comp, asking for doubling my ram?

fedora 7? I thought ubuntu is faster than fedora

my processor? P4 = Bull$hit. And to add to my misery I got only reltek onboard soundcard, which can't even run Hydrogen Properly(I get purring noices if I add more than 3 beats in a single point of time). Intel 915G with GMA 900 does not give the best graphics either.

I am growing tiered of trying to extract the maximum out of my PC. But no upgrades for me for another 20 months. I need to try to make this box as productive as possible, all the time making my n00bish friends with 60K windows boxes think I have some kind of a super-duper OS, because I customised Ubuntu to look to kill

praka123
09-12-2007, 11:44 PM
Xubuntu+gtk applications+customizations⇛good looking desktop using least resources,though u have to spare some time :D

mediator
09-12-2007, 11:46 PM
There is a big difference between booting live from CDROM and booting from HDD. U shudn't compare the two.

If u "thought" about fedora like that then u need to confirm it practically. Fedora seemed to be faster than Ubuntu at all times with same hw config. Atleast thats what I experienced.

U must understand that more the system becomes configured for desktop use the more the background processes and scripts will be and hence the slower it will be.

U can give a try to other distroos, Window managers or upgrade RAM. If u r a victim of 'I thought' kinda thoughts then I guess u'll have to wait for 'another 20 months'. :oops:

praka123
09-12-2007, 11:57 PM
with kde,u'll feel home :)) ie,like Vista's speed :lol: personal experiance as i too am stuck with my Linux Box 915GV+256MB RAM+p4 2.8Ghz prescott.only "+" is xfx 7300 GT running in pci-eX4 mode :oops:
Use customized Xubuntu or try sidux with xfce or the best of the best is build ur system install Gentoo.it will be supposedly the fastest as every pkg is optimized for ur architecture and kernel performance enhancement patches done. <===though u shud be a little geeky to do above :p

MetalheadGautham
10-12-2007, 12:47 AM
with kde,u'll feel home :)) ie,like Vista's speed :lol: personal experiance as i too am stuck with my Linux Box 915GV+256MB RAM+p4 2.8Ghz prescott.only "+" is xfx 7300 GT running in pci-eX4 mode :oops:
Use customized Xubuntu or try sidux with xfce or the best of the best is build ur system install Gentoo.it will be supposedly the fastest as every pkg is optimized for ur architecture and kernel performance enhancement patches done. <===though u shud be a little geeky to do above :p

Vista? At Home? You are kidding right? I loath the way the window name is printed. I hate the max, min, close keys. I prefer the Gnome Linsta customised with Ubuntu Studio Icons. This looks a bit like vista, but is much better. Look like vista in the sence has black bars. thats the end of the story. And yes, KDE supposedly recomends atleast 768 mb ram for full throttle performance?

I was thinking of publishing my old checklist again from the distro request thread:
Update:

Active List(Which I have now, are active in market)


Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon - i386 DVD
Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn i386 Desktop CD
Xubuntu Gutsy Gibbon - Latest - i386 Desktop CD
nUbuntu 7.04 - Live CD
Mandriva One Spring 2007 - Live CD - Older version now
Mandriva One Spring 2008 - Live CD - Latest
Feodra 7 DVD
SuSE 10.3 DVD(OK, my friend still did not give it to me...)
Dyne:Bolic - Live CD
Freespire 1 - Live CD
Vector Linux 5.1 SOHO Live Disc
Slax Kill Bill Edition
Damn Small Linux - latest
Puppy Linux
Open SuSE 10.2 Live
================================================== =============
Old Distros:

Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger
Kubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger

they are the list of distros I have. Do you think I really should try Gentoo? what about its son Sabayon? Has anyone tried them to prove praka123's statement that they run well on old systems?

what do you mean by geeky to do the above?

I was also thinking of compiling ubuntu from source. Is there any software that does this automatically and builds an ISO, so that what ever I install will be fully compatible with my system? Is this feasable?

@praka123: what do YOU use? And how is the performance in your PC?

and what can be said about vector linux? I want to know how good the new 5.8 is. I am waiting for the release of 5.9 standard, which is nearly here(its still RC3) before downloading, so as to give everyone the benifit of my clever use of bandwidth:D

MetalheadGautham
14-12-2007, 06:05 PM
new question: can I install Xfce and KDE (xubu and kubu) within ubuntu so that I can choose which to boot with? a small voice in my head tells yes, but how exactly?

FilledVoid
14-12-2007, 07:54 PM
On my DVD install I can select both packages KDE and XFCE in the Synaptic menu . I haven't done this personally though cause it tends to bloat up the install. If you look in Synaptic you should see the packages KDE and XFCE4 in there. Im pretty sure it should install all dependencies the Windows Manager needs to change . You might wait for others opinion too .

MetalheadGautham
15-12-2007, 12:44 AM
On my DVD install I can select both packages KDE and XFCE in the Synaptic menu . I haven't done this personally though cause it tends to bloat up the install. If you look in Synaptic you should see the packages KDE and XFCE4 in there. Im pretty sure it should install all dependencies the Windows Manager needs to change . You might wait for others opinion too .
I currently have two Gutsy 7.10 DVDs. One downloaded by me and the other I got from digit. Is there some modified stuff in the Digit version?

And by bloating the install, does it mean slow down the system?

I want to upgrade mainly because ALSA and XV give me some troubles in Feisty Fawn.

FilledVoid
15-12-2007, 01:52 AM
I currently have two Gutsy 7.10 DVDs. One downloaded by me and the other I got from digit. Is there some modified stuff in the Digit version?

I seriously doubt it but I haven't even got my copy of Digit so I cant confirm. Multiple Window managers result in installing all those files you are going to need to support it. I asked this question in #Ubuntu and the overall consensus was that it wouldn't slow the system but it would increase the size on disk greatly. Once I get my Digit copy Ill try running it on VirtualBox cause I haven't tried a Linux OS in it yet. You could do the same to confirm its performance.

I want to upgrade mainly because ALSA and XV give me some troubles in Feisty Fawn.
FOr ALSA you could always try PulseAudio but Im not sure how that turns out as Im scared to try that :D. Prakash and gary4gar seems to run it though. So you might want to check with them .

MetalheadGautham
15-12-2007, 01:56 AM
heard of PulceAudio alright. But do softwares actually support it? MPlayer, VLC, Xine and company? and is it available for Ubuntu? Or should I shift to Fedora 8?

kalpik
15-12-2007, 07:46 AM
^^ Its available under gutsy. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio

MetalheadGautham
16-12-2007, 03:47 AM
OK, now I am ready to install it... but have a small problem. Recently, the comp repair guy did not connect the DVD drive properly to the PC. :mad: Can someone point me to a pictorial instruction set on how to remove a DVD drive from the PC then connect it again, all on an Intel 915 G MotherBoard?:oops:

anantkhaitan
16-12-2007, 05:12 PM
Why does firefox open links from the digit forum in new window when I specified that new pages should be opened in a new tab? In the firefox of XP, I get no troubles. Is it because there is no force open all new-window links in new tab option in ubuntu-firefox? I really need that feature.
Open about:config and set:

browser.link.open_external -> 3
browser.link.open_newwindow -> 3
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction -> 2

I want a transcoading, audio extracting, transmuxing solution for ubuntu. I had SUPER©, Media Coder and dBpoweramp for windows. What for ubuntu-linux? I need GUIed functionality here, because I am a multimedia power user. I care about my codecs.
I don't know about GUI version but if you get your hands on CLI based ffmpeg you will forget everything else

Brother you have got a big list of problems..Make your list a bit presentable

MetalheadGautham
17-12-2007, 03:26 AM
^^most are solved...

anyway, Can anyone tell me how stable is Linux MiNT 4.0 Xfce 4.0 Daryna? Its still beta I noticed...

I need a simple and easy to use Debian based Light weight OS that uses a light weight Window Manager. Xubuntu I have. Anything else?

Hitboxx
19-12-2007, 05:40 PM
OK, now I am ready to install it... but have a small problem. Recently, the comp repair guy did not connect the DVD drive properly to the PC. :mad: Can someone point me to a pictorial instruction set on how to remove a DVD drive from the PC then connect it again, all on an Intel 915 G MotherBoard?:oops:
I didn't exactly understand you, do you mean just connecting, how hard can it be? Its the same as any other cdrom drives.

MetalheadGautham
19-12-2007, 06:02 PM
I didn't exactly understand you, do you mean just connecting, how hard can it be? Its the same as any other cdrom drives.
I have no idea how to connect/disconnect drives, trust me. Thats why I want help. It may be trivial, but I have NO IDEA HOW.

gimme a description of what to do.

I found a fat wire and a thin wire conected. the drive opens, but is not detected. My friend says that the thin one is the power cable and its connected. the fat one is the IDE cable and may not be connected properly. He told to reboot, press del to enter BIOS and try auto detect if I am sure that the drive is connected properly. How do I do that?

Hitboxx
19-12-2007, 06:20 PM
erm.,Connect them, restart PC, hit del or F2, get into BIOS, check for drives...

MetalheadGautham
20-12-2007, 12:14 AM
erm.,Connect them, restart PC, hit del or F2, get into BIOS, check for drives...
connect them... HOW? I need a pic or video describing the exact details because I don't want to screw up my PC. Forgive my n00bishness, but I know hardly anything about hardware.

Hitboxx
20-12-2007, 12:49 AM
Omg dude :P, now from where shall I get you a pic or video?! hehe I'm surprised you never connected it before, maybe you can ask some real friend or colleague nearby to drop by, or wait till someone here gives you a walkthrough or try google.

And you can't screw up the entire PC coz of just a drive, if not connected properly, it just won't be detected. That's all.

MetalheadGautham
20-12-2007, 12:54 AM
Omg dude :P, now from where shall I get you a pic or video?! hehe I'm surprised you never connected it before, maybe you can ask some real friend or colleague nearby to drop by, or wait till someone here gives you a walkthrough or try google.

And you can't screw up the entire PC coz of just a drive, if not connected properly, it just won't be detected. That's all.
What if I pull out a wire too rashly and something breaks? My dad will be all over me...

I am a Hardware n00b. I agree to it. But Softwares, I am never a n00b.

The problem with the guys around me is simple: most are tech n00bs. The one guy I know well is a hardcore windows fanboy who spends more time insulting Ubuntu than anything else, and I hate to be pissed in such an important situation.

Hitboxx
20-12-2007, 12:58 AM
Why not ask your dad to do it?

MetalheadGautham
20-12-2007, 12:59 AM
New Problem:

this happened 5 hours ago:

I went to the synaptic package manager
I searched for Pulse
I installed the PulseAudio package for ubuntu
I also installed the one which replaces ESD with PulseAudio
Now ESD is removed fully
I can't hear any sound from my system ecept the starting user name drums
I totally screwed up, IMO
I need a solution, and fast.

Why not ask your dad to do it? He is a cyber n00b. He is from the old era full of mathematicians and Kabaddi players.

Hitboxx
20-12-2007, 01:03 AM
Easy, nothing is screwed, probably you didn't install all the required components or just mis-configured something. Erk..I'm not on my Linux PC right now, Dad's sleeping in that room, didn't want to disturb him, using his Windows laptop, can't this wait till morning? I'd have checked the packages and notified you..

MetalheadGautham
20-12-2007, 01:10 AM
Easy, nothing is screwed, probably you didn't install all the required components or just mis-configured something. Erk..I'm not on my Linux PC right now, Dad's sleeping in that room, didn't want to disturb him, using his Windows laptop, can't this wait till morning? I'd have checked the packages and notified you..
this, along with a buggy X Video driver, along with purring and cracking noises when I create a particularly beautifull track with hydrogen, has made me concider going for a reinstall. But That's also out of question due to the drive being screwed up.


PS: why do you keep Linux in PC and Windows in Laptop? It should be the other way, because you can still game comfortably on a PC, while a LinBook is your ultimate choice for stable and portable glory.(thats if you can't afford MacBooks and AlienWares)

Hitboxx
20-12-2007, 01:15 AM
PS: I dual-boot on my PC, yes gaming, didn't you notice my CoD4 thread? :P

He's here for some work for 2 days and the laptop uses Airtel usb-modem. So I didn't want to mess with it right now. Maybe when he's free and I'm free, I'll give a shot on the laptop.

Edit: Anyways it seems we're going offtopic, catch you in the morning and see what can I do.^^

MetalheadGautham
20-12-2007, 01:22 AM
PS: I dual-boot on my PC, yes gaming, didn't you notice my CoD4 thread? :P

He's here for some work for 2 days and the laptop uses Airtel usb-modem. So I didn't want to mess with it right now. Maybe when he's free and I'm free, I'll give a shot on the laptop.
same is the case with my dad. He comes here only on weekends and holidays. But on HIS lappy, he runs win xp sp2, and he doesn't even know to so some simple OS tasks not a part of his profession.

I would never advice anyone to install linux on a machine thats used by a linux n00b, so if your dad falls in that catogary, don't ever harass him with linux, unless you teach him to use it first. The last thing you want is to serve as a technical support for your dad at all odd times. Being in his shoes will also be no better.

MetalheadGautham
21-12-2007, 09:53 AM
*cough* *cough*

So nobody knows how to get that sound fixed?

praka123
21-12-2007, 12:59 PM
^dude have pulse audio working well on debian sid.if all fails,you have to edit /etc/default/pulseaudio and set to 1.

I think u have pulse audio running.u have to just go to meny system>preferences>sound:
read below:

The
# recommend way to run PulseAudio is as a per-session daemon. For GNOME
# sessions you can install pulseaudio-esound-compat and GNOME will
# automatically start PulseAudio on login (if ESD is enabled in
# System->Preferences->Sound). For other sessions, you can simply start
# PulseAudio with "pulseaudio --daemonize"


now make a file as:
gksudo gedit /etc/asound.conf
with below content.CHANGE "PRAKASH" TO YOUR USERNAME IN GUTSY!!!


# Part I directly from ALSA Dmix Wiki

pcm.prakash {
type dmix
ipc_key 1024
slave {
pcm "hw:0,0"
period_time 0
period_size 1024
buffer_size 8192
#format "S32_LE"
#periods 128
rate 44100
}
}

pcm.dsp0 {
type plug
slave.pcm "prakash"
}

# This following device can fool some applications into using pulseaudio
pcm.dsp1 {
type plug
slave.pcm "pulse"
}

ctl.mixer0 {
type hw
card 0
}


pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}
# Optional, set defaults

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}

ctl.!default {
type pulse
}


save the /etc/asound.conf and exit.thats all!restart ur system and see!I have attached libflashsupport.so,.la files somewhere here in OSS section for pulse audio working with latest flashplayer9 beta which I use

OK.I am attaching those files in this post.download,extract and as sudo move libflashsupport.so and libflashsupport.la to /usr/lib/ directory.thats all! 8)

MetalheadGautham
21-12-2007, 01:11 PM
but I need ESD back... how can I do that?

gary4gar
21-12-2007, 01:13 PM
why the heck you installed pulse?

praka123
21-12-2007, 01:16 PM
^arrre...kyon bechare ko pareshan kar raha hey too :p

@gotham:remove:
sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-hal pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-utils libpulse0 libpulsecore5 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse-browse0 libpulse-dev and after removing all these,do a :
sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
and...when internet is ON:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libesd-alsa0 --reinstall
and go to system>preferences>sound menu and select enlightened sound daemon for all audio processes and enable it!
that's all ;)

MetalheadGautham
21-12-2007, 02:44 PM
^arrre...kyon bechare ko pareshan kar raha hey too :p

@gotham:remove:
sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-hal pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-utils libpulse0 libpulsecore5 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse-browse0 libpulse-dev and after removing all these,do a :
sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
and...when internet is ON:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libesd-alsa0 --reinstall
and go to system>preferences>sound menu and select enlightened sound daemon for all audio processes and enable it!
that's all ;)
in the last part of reinstalling stuff, I get this:
gautham@Gautham-Linux:~$ sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
gautham@Gautham-Linux:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libesd-alsa0 --reinstall
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Translation-en_IN
Get:2 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release.gpg [191B]
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Translation-en_IN
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_IN
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Translation-en_IN
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Translation-en_IN
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Translation-en_IN
Get:3 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release.gpg [191B]
Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release [50.9kB]
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Translation-en_IN
Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/universe Translation-en_IN
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages [103kB]
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/multiverse Packages
Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/universe Packages
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages [6341B]
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Packages [59.2kB]
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Packages [6092B]
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Packages [59.2kB]
99% [9 Packages bzip2 0]
its showing the same thing for a looong time.

praka123
21-12-2007, 03:18 PM
try sudo iptables -F and update.

MetalheadGautham
21-12-2007, 03:43 PM
OK, I forgot to tell, when I executed the lines indivudually(excluding the &&), I made it to the menu again. (I closed, reopened the terminal to do that)

But I still see no improvement. And yes, pulse audio responds in Audacious, so that means that nothing effective happened.

MetalheadGautham
23-12-2007, 06:04 PM
bump...

praka123
23-12-2007, 06:22 PM
if u did all the steps,then i cant find anyreason for pulse audio be there.
BTW,to retain ESD,
sudo apt-get install esound esound-clients libesd-alsa0

and remove that "in.archive.ubuntu.com" to "archive.ubuntu.com" and then sudo apt-get update.for reference,below is my Gutsy Gibbon /etc/apt/sources.list :)

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
#Repository List based on standard gutsy with many extra packages
# If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
# and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
# gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
#
# If you have a gpg key URL use (replace URL with the key address):
#
# wget -q URL -O- | sudo apt-key add -
#
# If you have a gpg key file use (replace FILE with the key file):
#
# sudo apt-key add FILE

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu
## users.
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse

# Seveas’ packages (GPG key: 1135D466)
# GPG key-file: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg
deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl gutsy-seveas all
deb-src http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl gutsy-seveas all

# Medibuntu - Ubuntu 7.10 "gutsy gibbon"
# GPG key-file: http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
#deb-src http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free

# Debuntu Ubuntu gutsy packages
# GPG Key: http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt
deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ gutsy multiverse
#deb-src http://repository.debuntu.org/ gutsy multiverse

MetalheadGautham
23-12-2007, 06:35 PM
why should I not use the indian server?

Woohoo It Worked!

gary4gar
23-12-2007, 07:47 PM
if u did all the steps,then i cant find anyreason for pulse audio be there.
BTW,to retain ESD,
sudo apt-get install esound esound-clients libesd-alsa0

and remove that "in.archive.ubuntu.com" to "archive.ubuntu.com" and then sudo apt-get update.for reference,below is my Gutsy Gibbon /etc/apt/sources.list :)

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
#Repository List based on standard gutsy with many extra packages
# If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
# and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
# gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
#
# If you have a gpg key URL use (replace URL with the key address):
#
# wget -q URL -O- | sudo apt-key add -
#
# If you have a gpg key file use (replace FILE with the key file):
#
# sudo apt-key add FILE

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu
## users.
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse

# Seveas’ packages (GPG key: 1135D466)
# GPG key-file: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg
deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl gutsy-seveas all
deb-src http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl gutsy-seveas all

# Medibuntu - Ubuntu 7.10 "gutsy gibbon"
# GPG key-file: http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
#deb-src http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free

# Debuntu Ubuntu gutsy packages
# GPG Key: http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt
deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ gutsy multiverse
#deb-src http://repository.debuntu.org/ gutsy multiverse

when you installed gutsy??
& why?

praka123
23-12-2007, 08:10 PM
I use Debian Sid regularly and also install latest Ubuntu! :D no upgrades!(as i rarely uses ubuntu :D though it acts as a showpiece(compiz) for n00b linuxers ;) )

MetalheadGautham
23-12-2007, 09:53 PM
I use Debian Sid regularly and also install latest Ubuntu! :D no upgrades!(as i rarely uses ubuntu :D though it acts as a showpiece(compiz) for n00b linuxers ;) )
Good, now help me on a newer project: I need to re-build my kernel, along with all the audio and video drivers. Please guide me. I am doing this because I am having problems with the graphics and the XV drivers.

praka123
23-12-2007, 11:56 PM
head to http://kernelnewbies.org then,check for changelogs on graphics drivers for some bugfixes or support for ur card.now for compiling kernel the debian way,debian/ubuntu carries "newbieguide" u can sudo apt-get install newbieguide.
if u want,http://howtoforge.com also have guides!.if u want sound support for new cards,try getting alsa-source (1.0.15?) from Ubuntu repo(sudo apt-get install alsa-source) and compile the kernel with previous kernel's /boot/config-`uname -r` .use make menuconfig or make gconfig for menu for compiling.optimize processor options and other features.remove unwanted features*(beware without initram support and ext2/3 support built-in kernel,ur gonna have a kernel-panic with new kernel.with make-kpkg,if ur successfull,u'll get a linux-image2.6.x.deb
U can compile kernel easy,but make sure ur gcc version is the same as in /usr/src/kernel-source/Documentaion/Changes file.if u got gcc-4.x,sudo apt-get install gcc-3.x and symlink forcibly(ln -sf) to /usr/bin/gcc also u may like to have update-alternatives(CLI) or galternatives installed for ease!best of Lux!

MetalheadGautham
24-12-2007, 12:53 PM
^^unless you format your text, I will have to cancel my plan out of fear:p

MetalheadGautham
26-12-2007, 03:51 PM
Naya Questions:

1. Why can't I unmount windows partitions via right click unmount?
2. How can I disable automount of certain partitions?
3. How can I re-enable the same?
4. How do I install Kubuntu and Xubuntu in Ubuntu?
5. While installing Kaffine, I saw apt-get downloading KDE files. So does that mean I have KDE ?
6. Where can I buy Distro DVDs/CDs in bangalore With Artwork for a low cost?

ray|raven
26-12-2007, 03:59 PM
1.Perhaps due to permissions.
Unmount needs root permissions to work AFAIK.

2.By removing the corresponding entry in /etc/fstab.

3.By adding the removed entry ;)

4.Select KDE and Xfce for install in Synaptic.
You can then choose which environment to login to at the login screen under Session.

5.No.It means you have some dependencies of KDE needed for kaffiene to run.

6.If you find out, lemme know too :p

Regards,
ray

gary4gar
26-12-2007, 07:12 PM
Naya Questions:

1. Why can't I unmount windows partitions via right click unmount?

perphas permission issues, try
chmod 755 <mount point>

2. How can I disable automount of certain partitions?
3. How can I re-enable the same?
remove & add their entry from /etc/fstab file

4. How do I install Kubuntu and Xubuntu in Ubuntu?
install KDE desktop (apt:kdesktop) Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment (apt:xfce4)
5. While installing Kaffine, I saw apt-get downloading KDE files. So does that mean I have KDE ?

no it will install a few KDE libs, nessary for running Kaffine

MetalheadGautham
27-12-2007, 02:55 PM
Is there a grapphical tool to handle mount/automount ? I mean one which asks you to enter root password then does stuff for you.

And as for the Distro Discs, I noticed that Linux For You had a version of the mag sans the discs and it costed Rs. 25 less. So will this mean(hopefully) that I can buy artworked distro discs for Rs. 25?

And I am concidering going for a Colour LightScribe DVD Writer to do the artworking(or use my friend's). How much does a LightScribe DVD cost in bangalore? Where can I buy pne?

gary4gar
27-12-2007, 03:44 PM
Is there a grapphical tool to handle mount/automount ? I mean one which asks you to enter root password then does stuff for you.

well Udev & HAL does this job, but why you need the tool for it?
just Umount the vol when you wish, remove & reconnect to mount again:rolleyes:

MetalheadGautham
30-12-2007, 10:25 PM
Can someone give me a good explanation on using the terminal and navigating within it and doing basic actions like cut/paste, copy, move, creating directories, etc?

praka123
30-12-2007, 10:42 PM
wikibooks may have some good intro book.
OK.download and read below pdf(is small!):
http://vic.gedris.org/Manual-ShellIntro/1.2/ShellIntro.pdf
^very nice for any users.
Also,
http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal

MetalheadGautham
31-12-2007, 09:56 AM
OK, thanks.


Anyway, I still haven't figured out a good downloader software for linux. I need it to download RSTP, MMS, FTP and HTTPS links along with HTTP.

eMule, Metalink, Magnet Link, Bit Torrent and GNUtella support are also nice.

praka123
31-12-2007, 10:03 AM
^gftp?,d4x ?

MetalheadGautham
31-12-2007, 10:06 AM
^gftp?,d4x ?
http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/realmad.gifDon't ever prescribe that bull$hit to anyone.
http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/s10.gifDownloader for X... uska X karadoonga

Whats the point of a download manager that hardly supports downloads?http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/actions1.gif

ray|raven
31-12-2007, 10:19 AM
Try urlgfe,Its very light.

Regards,
ray

MetalheadGautham
31-12-2007, 12:16 PM
I tried to install the intel driver for linux for the 915G motherboard, and I got an error. Here is the log file:

make -C /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0 modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic'
CC [M] /home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.o
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:69: error: conflicting types for ‘agp_backend_acquire’
include/linux/agp_backend.h:110: error: previous declaration of ‘agp_backend_acquire’ was here
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:77: error: conflicting types for ‘agp_backend_acquire’
include/linux/agp_backend.h:110: error: previous declaration of ‘agp_backend_acquire’ was here
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:89: error: conflicting types for ‘agp_backend_release’
include/linux/agp_backend.h:111: error: previous declaration of ‘agp_backend_release’ was here
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:93: error: conflicting types for ‘agp_backend_release’
include/linux/agp_backend.h:111: error: previous declaration of ‘agp_backend_release’ was here
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:220: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘drm_agp’
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c: In function ‘agp_add_bridge’:
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:281: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘inter_module_register’
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:281: error: ‘drm_agp’ undeclared (first use in this function)
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:281: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:281: error: for each function it appears in.)
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c: In function ‘agp_remove_bridge’:
/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.c:301: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘inter_module_unregister’
make[2]: *** [/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0/backend.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/agpgart-2.0] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic'
make: *** [default] Error 2
make -f Makefile.linux DRM_MODULES=gdg.ko modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/drm'
+ ln -s Makefile.linux Makefile
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build SUBDIRS=`pwd` DRMSRCDIR=`pwd` modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic'
rm: cannot remove `/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/drm/.tmp_versions/CVS': Is a directory
make[2]: *** [crmodverdir] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic'
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gautham/Desktop/dripkg/drm'
make: *** [gdg.ko] Error 2

ray|raven
31-12-2007, 12:19 PM
Two Questions.

1.Why did u try install the intel driver when the foss one works great?

2.Why did u install it from source,when you could've gotten a package.

Try read this might help:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391105

Regards,
ray

praka123
31-12-2007, 12:27 PM
@gowtham:DRI is already with xorg drivers and there is absolutely no change if u try to do that!also compiling DRI modules is not that easy!

MetalheadGautham
31-12-2007, 10:53 PM
But OpenArena tells me that hardware acceleration is disabled.


gautham@Gautham-Linux:~$ openarena
[: 30: ==: unexpected operator
ioQ3 1.33+oa linux-i386 Feb 5 2007
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
/home/gautham/.openarena/baseoa
/usr/share/games/openarena/baseoa/pak6-misc.pk3 (96 files)
/usr/share/games/openarena/baseoa/pak5-TA.pk3 (7 files)
/usr/share/games/openarena/baseoa/pak4-textures.pk3 (932 files)
/usr/share/games/openarena/baseoa/pak2-players.pk3 (187 files)
/usr/share/games/openarena/baseoa/pak1-maps.pk3 (25 files)
/usr/share/games/openarena/baseoa/pak0.pk3 (748 files)
/usr/share/games/openarena/baseoa
/usr/lib/games/openarena/baseoa

----------------------
1995 files in pk3 files
execing default.cfg
couldn't exec q3config.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
----- Client Initialization -----
----- Initializing Renderer ----
-------------------------------
QKEY found.
----- Client Initialization Complete -----
----- R_Init -----

------- Input Initialization -------
Joystick is not active.
------------------------------------
...loading libGL.so.1:
Calling SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO)...
SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) passed.
Initializing OpenGL display
...setting mode 3: 640 480
SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
Using 8/8/8 Color bits, 16 depth, 0 stencil display.
GL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect


************************************************** *********
You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
Driver DLL used: libGL.so.1
If this is intentional, add
"+set r_allowSoftwareGL 1"
to the command line when starting the game.
************************************************** *********
...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)
----- CL_Shutdown -----
RE_Shutdown( 1 )
-----------------------
Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem


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praka123
31-12-2007, 11:04 PM
DRI!verify 3D support by opening a terminal and seeing the o/p:
"glxinfo |grep direct" if the answer is YES,u have not much there to tweak!..
and ur Xfce install went smooth...but remove that in.archive in sources.list to archive.ubuntu.com/.....Hope it solves!

MetalheadGautham
31-12-2007, 11:09 PM
^^

gautham@Gautham-Linux:~$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
Major opcode of failed request: 142 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
Serial number of failed request: 16
Current serial number in output stream: 17
gautham@Gautham-Linux:~$ glxinfo grep direct
Unknown option `grep'
Usage: glxinfo [-v] [-t] [-h] [-i] [-b] [-display <dname>]
-v: Print visuals info in verbose form.
-t: Print verbose table.
-display <dname>: Print GLX visuals on specified server.
-h: This information.
-i: Force an indirect rendering context.
-b: Find the 'best' visual and print it's number.
-l: Print interesting OpenGL limits.
gautham@Gautham-Linux:~$ glxinfo |grep direct
X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
Major opcode of failed request: 142 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
Serial number of failed request: 16
Current serial number in output stream: 17
gautham@Gautham-Linux:~$

MetalheadGautham
02-01-2008, 02:08 AM
bump

I am very dissatisfied with the default archieve manager. It lacks advanced features, you can't set compression level, you can't extract archives in unconventional formats like .docx, .odt, .bin, .nrg, .exe, etc.

So Please suggest me something good. I want all features of AlZip for windows and 7Zip for Windows.

praka123
02-01-2008, 02:25 AM
hmm.....can u attach ur xorg.conf?

MetalheadGautham
02-01-2008, 03:15 AM
hmm.....can u attach ur xorg.conf?
where is it found?

and btw, gxine says XV module isn't present...

anyway, I think I will install Gutsy Gibbon now. But I also want to try Fedora 8 "Werewolf".

do you think Upgrade with distro disc is advicable for ubuntu now?

and I have ISOs of MiNT 4.0 and Xubuntu 7.10. Should I try them or install the Gutsy DVD?

And a more casual question: I am currently freeing up HDD space. Should I keep the Xubuntu & mint ISOs burnt to CDs or as image files in a DVD? Is it worth burning them and wasting money on CD when I already have Gutsy DVD burnt with me ?

Source: places>search xorg.conf
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us,in"
Option "XkbVariant" ","
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "vesa"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 28-51
VertRefresh 43-60
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

praka123
02-01-2008, 03:24 AM
^arrey!gautham ur using VESA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA) driver!thats why all this mess!
edit ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit section "device" and in place of "vesa" enter "i810" for old ubuntus and for latest gutsy enter, "intel" save and reboot or open a terminal and do a "sudo telinit 1" and then in runlevel1 press CTRL+D to have the system boots normally!

Also,if ur monitor is not displaying edges correctly,google for ur monitor model and get its Horiz and Ver Freq and manually enter!and if u have a LCD display,u need to enable SUB-PIXEL RENDERING!
if u want to control more,than a casual user in debian or ubuntu,do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf" and select "medium".now proceed!
also,it is worth to read "newbiedoc" in debian or ubuntu(u can apt-get install newbiedoc ;) )

open synaptic and make sure u have installed libgl1-mesa-glx ;also,if u have tried to install some graphics driver via compiling from source,mark for reinstallation,libgl1-mesa-dri,libgl1-mesa-glx,mesa-utils,xserver-xorg-video-i810 or xserver-xorg-video-intel depends on ur intel mobo gfx!

MetalheadGautham
02-01-2008, 03:39 AM
Prakash, you are awssome. I don't know what I can do withput you. I solved EVERY major problem thanks to you. I don't know how I can repay you. If M$ has MVP award, you must get Red Hat's CLE(certified linux engineer) award.

praka123
02-01-2008, 03:49 AM
@gautham:this first few months look of Linux File System as "what a mess" will be solved if u know how Linux/Unix Arranges different directories for different purposes for eg: /etc/ contains config files /etc/X11 for X./var for storage /usr/ for binaries and docs etc /srv/ for a server...and goes on.Just google for Linux File System structure .and u'll be at ease!

gary4gar
02-01-2008, 10:38 AM
there is the GUI tool to edit xorg.conf in gutsy, where is it?
i can't find it, btw editing text is more easy still wanted to know where the tool has been placed.


[edit]
found it, its named is displayconfig-gtk, and it can be lauchached by

gksu displayconfig-gtk
and also system>Adminstration>Screens & graphics

MetalheadGautham
05-01-2008, 09:40 AM
there is the GUI tool to edit xorg.conf in gutsy, where is it?
i can't find it, btw editing text is more easy still wanted to know where the tool has been placed.


[edit]
found it, its named is displayconfig-gtk, and it can be lauchached by

gksu displayconfig-gtkand also system>Adminstration>Screens & graphics
is it available 4 feisty?

shady_inc
05-01-2008, 11:40 PM
is it available 4 feisty?
Nope.Introduced in Gutsy.You can use Xorg-edit (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xorg-edit) though.Haven't tried it since Gutsy doesn't need it.

@gary: displayconfig-gtk can only be used to edit display settings.What about input devices and others.??

gary4gar
06-01-2008, 12:16 AM
Nope.Introduced in Gutsy.You can use Xorg-edit (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xorg-edit) though.Haven't tried it since Gutsy doesn't need it.

@gary: displayconfig-gtk can only be used to edit display settings.What about input devices and others.??
by input devices you meant, mouse & keyboard?
for that check gnome-keyboard-properties
gnome-mouse-properties

MetalheadGautham
03-02-2008, 03:52 AM
can anyone tell me how I can set the resolution right for my monitor ? After enabling intel drivers, prakash had mentioned something about going to the manufacturer's website to get information on the screen size. But how ?
I have an Acer AC713 17" Big Bulging Screen CRT Monitor.
There are black bars of different sizes in the upper, lower, right and left regions.
How do I correct it ?
Whats the correct procedure for it ?(perhaps editing x.org configuration file ?)

Another Problem:
I need a good download Manager for Linux.
By good I men excellent.
One that does not show 400 errors, 404 errors, for every download having a complex link.
One doesn't download php files instead of mp3 files, etc.
One that can handle huge downloads and not hang near the end of the download.
One that supports downloading from HTTP, RSTP, MMS, HTTPS and FTP.

praka123
03-02-2008, 04:10 AM
@gautham:I found ur monitor's horizontal and vertical frequencies in a google cache of manufacturer's site:
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:PJUqh8y-7TEJ:global.acer.com/products/monitor/ac713.htm+Acer+AC713&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=in
and
http://www.acernotebooks.co.uk/Acer_AC713_17_Inch_CRT_Screen_ES.C0408.010/version.asp
you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf section "monitor" to look as below.if the system detected the frequencies,then fine.

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "AC713"
HorizSync 30.0-72.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

save this and do a "sudo telinit 1" and when reached runlevel 1,press CTRL+D to have the system booting to normal.
always useful for hw detection if u install "read-edid" package.anyways,now u dont need as u got the details.

aah!download manager?the one i can say is wget in CLI :p or may be gwget.
and GTransferManager
Description: Multiple files transfer manager
GTransferManager allows the user to retrieve multiple files from the web.
These files can be retrieved in multiple parts and each part retrieved on a
separate session that the user is connected to the Internet. This is most
useful to users with dialup connections. The program performs these tasks
using wget as its back-end.

ray|raven
03-02-2008, 11:47 AM
Another Problem:
I need a good download Manager for Linux.
By good I men excellent.
One that does not show 400 errors, 404 errors, for every download having a complex link.
One doesn't download php files instead of mp3 files, etc.
One that can handle huge downloads and not hang near the end of the download.
One that supports downloading from HTTP, RSTP, MMS, HTTPS and FTP. (ftp://ftp.)

I told you dude, try urlgfe.
Its not been updated for quite a while, but its the lightest and fastest d/l manager i've used.
And its got all the features u might need.
http://urlget.sourceforge.net/

Regards,
ray

shady_inc
03-02-2008, 02:27 PM
Hope nobody has a problem with me asking this here, but I am facing an issue with Gparted.It shows my entire hard disk as unallocated.This happened only after I created a separate /home partition.Now I wanna edit some partitions but I can't do it.:mad: Have tried both the LiveCD and normal installer in Ubuntu.
Any help.?

praka123
03-02-2008, 02:33 PM
@shady:why gparted? "sudo apt-get install cfdisk" and do whatever u want!
even testdisk is not bad!

shady_inc
03-02-2008, 02:36 PM
Hmm...I tried sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and got this:

--------------------------------------------------//--------------------------------
FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
Press any key to exit cfdisk
--------------------------------------------------//--------------------------------
Lemme check testdisk.

MetalheadGautham
07-02-2008, 01:44 AM
@gautham:I found ur monitor's horizontal and vertical frequencies in a google cache of manufacturer's site:
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:PJUqh8y-7TEJ:global.acer.com/products/monitor/ac713.htm+Acer+AC713&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=in
and
http://www.acernotebooks.co.uk/Acer_AC713_17_Inch_CRT_Screen_ES.C0408.010/version.asp
you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf section "monitor" to look as below.if the system detected the frequencies,then fine.

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "AC713"
HorizSync 30.0-72.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
save this and do a "sudo telinit 1" and when reached runlevel 1,press CTRL+D to have the system booting to normal.
always useful for hw detection if u install "read-edid" package.anyways,now u dont need as u got the details.

aah!download manager?the one i can say is wget in CLI :p or may be gwget.
and GTransferManager
Once again, I screwed up.
The login says Xorg won't load due to some problem(which I forgot) in the "Generic Monitor". I then logged in via commandline, and did

sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf

then I went to the area I had edited and noticed one thing: the place you had asked me to make a change initially had "Generic Monitor" instead of AC713. And when the word was changed, the section below still had "Generic Monitor" in the monitor option. I guess this is the reason for the conflict.

I tried to change the value there, and did ctrl+s a couple of times, but I don't know how vi works. I restarted via the restart button, logged into windows, and now I am posting this.

So finally, I have this question:

1. How do I save in vi and how do I exit in vi ?

2. Should I change the "AC713" back to "generic monitor" ?

3. Will doing so result in once again my being able to boot graphically ?

4. I saw a line in xorg.conf in the begening instructions that said that a certain command whose name I forgot, will regenerate xorg.conf automatically. should I do it ?

another question: how do I boot via Damn Small Linux Live CD ? Does it directly load GUI ? What about Knoppix ? All I saw in knoppix was a bunch of options at the bottom of the screen. I am asking because I need to go live in order to rescue my system.

praka123
07-02-2008, 01:58 AM
^dont regenarate the wrong xorg.conf by dexconf.

u shudve used nano for editing.and did u edited as "sudo vim"? u need to do this if u dont like to add sudo to every command.

when Ubuntu boots and finishes with that blue message stating X error,press CTRL+ALT+F1 to login with ur username and password.
now,
do:
"sudo su -"
now u'll get a "#" terminal or root terminal.
there u can edit with nano or vi(VIM)

you can edit as I suggested and save in nano(use nano -w filename) by pressing CTRL+O and CTRL+X.
In vi/vim,edit by pressing "i" and press ESC when finishes.then press ":" and type "wq" enter.thats it!


oh yes! and use whatever is in the place be it "generic monitor" etc.

u can fire up X in terminal after finished editing and exit.by running
in "#" prompt:
/etc/init.d/gdm restart

u can use below /etc/X11/xorg.conf supposing u use intel onboard gfx:
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
Load "ddc"
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "bitmap"
Load "int10"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us,in"
Option "XkbVariant" ","
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection



Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "intel"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
HorizSync 30.0-72.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

also @gowtham: u should get connected to net and do a
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
and:
sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri mesa-utils
now report back!

MetalheadGautham
07-02-2008, 02:11 AM
^^ wait till I note this down and reboot and follow the instructions.

praka123
07-02-2008, 02:17 AM
^what is the use dude!u can copy the above xorg.conf and save as a .txt file in ur windows.then from ubuntu,u can mount the win partn and copy the xorg.conf or use "less /mount/xorg.conf.txt" u can view that!

also,for virtual terminal usage,GPM is very useful.make sure u apt-get install gpm and do a "dpkg-reconfigure gpm" with entering responsivness of mouse as "23&qu