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Third Eye
02-11-2007, 09:54 PM
Microsoft is celebrating a veritable Windows Vista feast, while Mac OS X and Linux are left scrambling for Wow crumbs. While Mac OS X and Linux are traditionally associated with rival products to Windows, on the current operating system market the most relevant face-off is positioning head-to-head Windows Vista and Windows XP. And Vista is slowly winning the battle, dislodging small chunks of audience from under XP's dominance with each passing month. Made available to businesses in November 2006 and to the general public in January 2007, Vista has grown its share of the operating system market from close to nothing in the beta testing milestones to almost 8% at the
end of November, having moved past the installed base of Linux and Mac OS X since summer.

Windows Vista is in fact the only product that has experienced growth between September and October, increasing its foothold on the market from 7.38% to 7.91%, according to data made available by Net Applications. At the same time, Windows XP dropped from 79.32% to 79.07%, and the Windows client released at the end of 2001 is increasingly struggling with an eroding market share. The various distributions of Linux only managed to account for a period of stagnation, remaining stuck at 0.81% for the past couple of months. But this is still more than what can be said for Mac OS X, as the combined results for Intel Mac and Mac OS decreased from 6.61% in September to 6.55% in October.


http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Mac-OS-X-and-Linux-Left-Scrambling-for-Wow-Crumbs-in-the-Windows-Vista-Dust-3.PNG

Operating System Market Share for October, 2007

Still, the OS X drop comes naturally, accompanying the anticipation of the launch of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard at the end of October. The next month’s statistics are bound to be more favorable for Apple, as the Cupertino-based hardware company applauded selling two million Leopard licenses in the first weekend of availability. Still, Vista also has nowhere but up to go, with the upcoming holiday season and with the first service pack planned for the first quarter of 2008. Microsoft has boasted over 88 million sold licenses of the platform since launch, and a strong revenue growth for the Windows Client division which reeked in some $4,1 billion in revenue in the first quarter of fiscal year 2008.

Source (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mac-OS-X-and-Linux-Left-Scrambling-for-Wow-Crumbs-in-the-Windows-Vista-Dust-69895.shtml)

naveen_reloaded
02-11-2007, 10:14 PM
On the long run vista will emerge as the best one..

narangz
02-11-2007, 11:07 PM
^^ Yes. That 79% will be of Vista's :)

However, Linux has its own place & I guess will gain more popularity. I hope(I know it aint gonna happen) MS reduces Vista prices. If they release Vista Ultimate for 2K(I am serious :D ) I will buy another copy of it & will dump XP.

naveen_reloaded
02-11-2007, 11:18 PM
Man i wish ms could reduce ties price for indian market.keep vista ultimate for 2k ,many will buy,that too they will buy it happily.

DigitalDude
02-11-2007, 11:32 PM
XP is not going anywhere will stay for atleast a year more..

MS made a mistake in releasing stable sp2 for windows xp... now their vista is not selling :P :P :D

narangz
02-11-2007, 11:34 PM
MS made a mistake in releasing stable sp2 for windows xp... now their vista is not selling :P :P :D

:D well i wonder what SP3 will have in it :D But buddy who said Vista aint selling?

DigitalDude
02-11-2007, 11:44 PM
I dont mean not selling in the sense that its a bad product...

I mean not selling that much because XP is gr8 with sp2 and now sp3 is also going to come.. so the big chunk of MS business customers are holding off the upgrade to vista :D

narangz
02-11-2007, 11:51 PM
^^Yeah you might be right. SP2 was infact called a 'new' OS. But people will move to Vista. Many big business houses are either upgrading or have already upgraded. The reason is Vista's new & better technology and ofcourse its safer. Another major reason is MS will stop XP support sooner or later(2008? I have forgotten actually) which business houses cannot afford.

Gigacore
03-11-2007, 06:51 AM
Wow XP LEads.... !

thanks for the info

naveen_reloaded
03-11-2007, 07:51 AM
Yeah as far as i know they will discontinue their support by 2009..enough time to vista to stand up on its own,
I løvé vista.

aryayush
05-11-2007, 08:12 PM
I wonder what the kids will be like! Scary thought. :lol:

the combined results for Intel Mac and Mac OS decreased from 6.61% in September to 6.55% in October.I smell bullshit here. Apple sold the highest number of Macs ever in that quarter. How can the market share fall? It's impossible.

which reeked in some $4,1 billion in revenueFurther proof, IMHO, that this is a not quite so well researched article written by a five year old.

I had no intention to comment in this thread. Vista is gaining ground. Big deal! As if we did not know it would. But then I read it and there is definitely something wrong with it, so I had to post.

Third Eye
05-11-2007, 08:32 PM
How can the market share fall?
Maybe Steve Jobs know this question's answer. :|

aditya.shevade
05-11-2007, 11:19 PM
I smell bullshit here. Apple sold the highest number of Macs ever in that quarter. How can the market share fall? It's impossible.


Did not expect this from you Aayush.

Say, if apple sold 100 macs instead of 50, but the rest sold 500 instead of 100, then 500 is 400% increase, apple will remain with 100% increase.

Overall 50 apple out of 150 total is 33%
100 apple out of 600 is 16.667%

So, even if the sells increase, it cannot mean that market share will increase.

Linux beats any windows OS any time/day/week/month/year/decade......

aryayush
05-11-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah, but Apple's market share is currently growing at thrice the pace of the rest of the industry. Google it and you'll know.

So, what you are saying is not possible either. :)

(Even I don't expect foolish posts from myself so I double-check before hitting 'Post Quick Reply'.) :)

Zeeshan Quireshi
05-11-2007, 11:49 PM
I smell bullshit here. Apple sold the highest number of Macs ever in that quarter. How can the market share fall? It's impossible. It's possible if Vista's n ohter OS'es growth rate(or sales in that month) is greater than the rate at which apple sold macs .

aryayush
06-11-2007, 01:11 AM
Did you even read the post immediately preceding yours? :)

Zeeshan Quireshi
06-11-2007, 11:25 AM
oops :D , actualy i reply to a post instantly when i read it .

aditya.shevade
06-11-2007, 01:09 PM
Yeah, but Apple's market share is currently growing at thrice the pace of the rest of the industry. Google it and you'll know.

So, what you are saying is not possible either. :)

(Even I don't expect foolish posts from myself so I double-check before hitting 'Post Quick Reply'.) :)

It is possible. I just said even my point of view is possible.

I hate Vista. I have used it on my friend's lappy. It has 1GB RAM, C2D but it is slower than XP on a PC with 512MB RAM, P-M. And Slower than my old PC with 96 MB RAM, P-2.

praka123
06-11-2007, 01:22 PM
I dont want to believe Linux is at 0.81 % .even how can u measure the install base of Linux and BSD systems except from servers and few static connections which are counted.i feel Linux is almost near to Mac in market share.not me alone who doesnt believe,even have read this in some site linuxmafia.org i suppose.and some forums too

Vista becoming dominant OS will give users no chance to spare from hands of M$ who acknowledge users as their puppets.even more Microsoft with Vista got DRM into it intruding privacy of users(DRM as a rootkit controlled by M$ and recording industry) if some warez crackers got DRM unlocked,troubles for Visitia users.I hope Vista just Visit the market and get off with its DRM as does ME.not a flamebait,but a reality. :-|

goobimama
06-11-2007, 01:31 PM
/offtopic

Didn't know where to post this. I just removed Vista and installed XP. My PC is now flying! This new speed that I've rediscovered has put off my plans on getting a new CPU...

/offtopic

a_k_s_h_a_y
06-11-2007, 01:49 PM
hey man this is great NEWS for MAC USERS

Mac OS is only for select few people...

if everyone starts to use MACs then they will lose exclusivity... then what a shame for mac users

mediator
06-11-2007, 02:31 PM
I dont want to believe Linux is at 0.81 % .even how can u measure the install base of Linux and BSD systems except from servers and few static connections which are counted.i feel Linux is almost near to Mac in market share.not me alone who doesnt believe,even have read this in some site linuxmafia.org i suppose.and some forums too

Vista becoming dominant OS will give users no chance to spare from hands of M$ who acknowledge users as their puppets.even more Microsoft with Vista got DRM into it intruding privacy of users(DRM as a rootkit controlled by M$ and recording industry) if some warez crackers got DRM unlocked,troubles for Visitia users.I hope Vista just Visit the market and get off with its DRM as does ME.not a flamebait,but a reality. :-|
Well the source of this thread isn't linked. But here r the exact readings!
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp.
Linux stands at 3.4%.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070903-linux-marketshare-set-to-surpass-windows-98.html
http://www.news.com/2100-1001-219214.html

praka123
06-11-2007, 02:47 PM
still unlike windows or apple which use registeration,Linux->,how can u count the thousands of installs which are not connected to internet and used for networking.there is no way to count the real share of Linux and BSDs(others).Will be much more.

mediator
06-11-2007, 02:53 PM
I dont think general crowd registers windows, but I think it is *verified* by the total no. of anti-virus softwares downloaded or updated! But yea on the other hand yea windows updates illegally without permission, so u can say that!

vaithy
06-11-2007, 05:23 PM
Hello,
Let me explain a example of Windows dominence..

My organisation training Centre has purchased 50 PC preinstalled with Windows XP. For training purpose, they installed Fedora-5 , but in the registers of the office it is mentioned only as Windows system...So it is normal thousands of organisations have purchased with Windows installed but afterwards, as per their requirement they may modified with either with stripping windows or dual booting with other system...
only a month ago. I scout the market for a linux configured laptop but ended with purchasing Windows VIsta preinstalled system ( because the adamant of the Vendor who refused to deal any thing about linux). But now with the Vista I have configured the following system UBUNTU-7.10,Mandriba-2008, PClinux-2007,SAM-linux,Granular Linux and latest MINT-4(daryana) all with eye candy berryl..
But such facts hardly noticed by the so called *****
StveBallmer should be a happiest man when his system run by more than 80% of world Pcs.. But he is not..the very mention of Linux is boiling his blood(so his goons here) See how he successfully bribe the nigerians to reverse the concluded deal??even the deal is microscopic dot compare to Vista's sale.
I think, this type of propaganda may be good for linux..

with regards,
vaithy

praka123
06-11-2007, 05:33 PM
^yeah.the nigerian deal just shows the M$ strategies.they sacked Mandriva.

NucleusKore
06-11-2007, 09:48 PM
Linux has been becoming user friendly steadily with each new release, see Ubuntu and Open SuSE. No one can end the current Microsoft monopoly overnight. My take is another 5 to 6 years to make any headway. The effects of Open source on Microsoft can be seen. Recently they made IE6 as a download not requiring windows validation. If they were SO strict about piracy they would not have done that. My guess is that they did it to thwart the rising use of Firefox. The increase in the use of cross-platform products will help users make the switch from Windows to Linux as that's what most users need, a web browser and an office suite. After acquainting windows users with these two applications I have been quite successful in getting them to adopt Linux. Please note that I am a genuine Windows XP home user, but I still prefer Open SuSE and am learning to use Ubuntu.

cynosure
06-11-2007, 11:20 PM
^My friends PC with C2D E4300 and 1GB RAM crawls with Win Vista.