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harryneopotter
15-01-2008, 08:40 PM
i think THL refferrs to --> The Hardware Labs (www.thehardwarelabs.com)

IllegalUser
15-01-2008, 08:41 PM
Hey Guys.. which onboard gfx is good? comparing to ASUS & INTEL?? Im planning to buy one PC.. Should i get DG965RY? or ASUS? Do help me !!

hellgate
15-01-2008, 08:49 PM
i think THL refferrs to --> The Hardware Labs (www.thehardwarelabs.com) (http://www.thehardwarelabs.com))


thats rite.

Choto Cheeta
15-01-2008, 10:56 PM
Which ASUS board costs the same price as Intel DG33 Goa Price Rs 4850+ tax

there are none from ASUS at that price range which would be better for C2D... however consider XFX 650i Ultra which is Rs. 4500 + TAX :) but it needs a grfx card as it doesn come with any onboard grfx, but its a great OC capable :lol:

now if u plan not to OC then, BIOSTAR 7100 (GF7100P-M7S) (http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/content.php?S_ID=312) or ABit 7100 (I-N73HD) (http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=I-N73HD&fMTYPE=LGA775) would be a better deal than Intel G33 based boards :)

Hey Guys.. which onboard gfx is good? comparing to ASUS & INTEL?? Im planning to buy one PC.. Should i get DG965RY? or ASUS? Do help me !!

if u are talking about Intel C2D processor supported boards, then what ever u buy asus or Intel, both will use same grfx chipset which could be G965 (GMA x3000) / G33 (GMA x3100) so as per onboard grfx concern, both Intel and ASUS uses the same grfx chipset :)

1>Abit IP35 Pro

at Rs. 9200/- it seems a good deal to me :)

hellgate
15-01-2008, 11:48 PM
any1 knows the price of XFX 780i 3-way SLi mobo??
asking this cuz i've inc'd my budget.

Pathik
15-01-2008, 11:50 PM
^^ Any contacts in the US?

hellgate
15-01-2008, 11:59 PM
^^^ nope.but the product has been released in India according to Techtree and was priced bout 18k as of 21st december.
but i wanna know its present price.

manishjha18
16-01-2008, 01:44 AM
cheeta why dont u update the 1st page--Last update on 02-11-2007

Harvik780
16-01-2008, 02:27 AM
The new E8400 overclocks like hell 4.3Ghz on air.
I'll surely buy the E8500 when its launched in India.

hellgate
16-01-2008, 10:05 AM
^^^ read somewhere on the net that a few of these new penryn procies wont be compatible with 680i chipset based boards (dont know bout the others like 650i,945,965 etc) due to the presence of half multipliers.

juggler
16-01-2008, 10:26 AM
Just a curiosity

We always talk about buying fast to very fast processor
but how fast a processor do we actually need in real world applications??

hellgate
16-01-2008, 10:35 AM
^^^ it all depends on wat type of apps ur running.not all apps gain from a faster procy clk speed.

mastermunj
16-01-2008, 06:21 PM
which LCD monitor is best to go for?

Philips, LG, ViewSonic, Samsung???

am planning for 17" LCD

nvidia
16-01-2008, 06:23 PM
ViewSonic 17" widescreen :)

mastermunj
16-01-2008, 06:27 PM
in my office i use dell 17"...

is it good to go for wide screen? i mean, all the images stretched and screen too!!!

and moreover i have heard that viewsonic does not have service center in india...

nvidia
16-01-2008, 06:27 PM
^^No images are not stretched if you are using the monitor in its native resolution. Some games may appear stretched if you are playing it at low resolution.

hellgate
16-01-2008, 06:57 PM
@mastermunj dont go for Viewsonic.try and get a Dell or HP.

mastermunj
16-01-2008, 07:05 PM
why Dell or HP?

i will prefer on site warranty for monitor...

hellgate
16-01-2008, 07:16 PM
afaik dell provides onsite support warranty for its monitors too.
i suggested Dell or HP cuz they hav better build and picture quality than Viewsonic.

upendra_gp
16-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Hi Choto and all people! I have nearly finalised finalised my PC.
here are the specs:-
Intel C2D E6750 +
some mobo .........................14000
XFX 8800GT........................16600
RAM 2GB..............................3000
HDD....................................2500
Cabinet...............................1500
Monitor[LG 19"]...................10000
KB+Mouse.............................850
Speakers.............................1500
__________________________________
TOTAL...............................49950

Is this config good? and please suggest me a good mobo. and if u have any other config in 50k with 8800GT[rs.16600 local price at my place].thanks in advance.

nvidia
16-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Cool config!
Get some P35 based motherboard. Wait for suggestions from other members...

Choto Cheeta
16-01-2008, 10:42 PM
@upendra_gp

Go for ABit IP35-Pro which is around Rs. 9200/- + TAX :) get E2140 as for now and then buy a 45 nm when they come to india :)

sagargv
16-01-2008, 10:55 PM
@upendra , i think u've missed the smps . . corsair 450W should do.

upendra_gp
17-01-2008, 07:27 AM
@ choto
won't XFX 650i be good?
if u have any suggstions for the monitor they are welcome also.

sagargv
17-01-2008, 10:28 AM
hey choto , is abit better than MSI , asus , xfx ?

and for me will a zebby 500W do ? recommend one in 2k range. i can get it from b'lore . thanks.

Pathik
17-01-2008, 02:58 PM
@upendra if u wanna save cash then get the Abit IP35e. @ sagargv you can get the zebby 500w platinum in 1.6k.

hellgate
17-01-2008, 02:59 PM
hey choto , is abit better than MSI , asus , xfx ?

and for me will a zebby 500W do ? recommend one in 2k range. i can get it from b'lore . thanks.

Abit mobos r good enuf.wont say that they r better than Asus/MSI but surely they perform almost at par with them.
afaik abit mobos offer a better price-performance ratio.

IllegalUser
17-01-2008, 04:24 PM
hey choto..
Im going to get one Pc this month end..
this is my config
Intel C2D E 2160 or should i get C2D E4500??
and XFX nForce® 650i Ultra MCP / Intel DG33FB/ ASUS P5K VM Mobo
which mobo is good in these?? sounds silly...but Wil this mobo help me play NFS Carbon and Most Wanted? :D

I'l get a graphic card later.. Please help me out guys..

sagargv
17-01-2008, 04:29 PM
zebby 500W was quoted for 2.5k !!! dint buy it . . alternatives ?

^^
all of them will help .u'll need a g-card thats all .
dont go4 intel mobo . . xfx wud be better . .consider abit ip35 . its being considered pretty good.

IllegalUser
17-01-2008, 04:34 PM
zebby 500W was quoted for 2.5k !!! dint buy it . . alternatives ?

^^
all of them will help .u'll need a g-card thats all .
dont go4 intel mobo . . xfx wud be better . .consider abit ip35 . its being considered pretty good.

How about Asus P5k VM? wil i be able to get Abit mobo here in my place (kerala)???

The_Devil_Himself
17-01-2008, 05:07 PM
HEy guys one of my freidns need a PC for normal stuff you know,lil bit programming,and movies and all.not much gaming.Budget 25k,can't extend it.The user is a complete noob who won't do any overclocking.Awaiting suggestions.And oH yea,the budget includes all the stuff,CPu+monitor+mouse+key+speakers and all.:)Hoping for some quick suggetsions as we got not much time.

Pathik
17-01-2008, 06:29 PM
^^ Abe 1st page dekh na.

sagargv
17-01-2008, 07:54 PM
How about Asus P5k VM? wil i be able to get Abit mobo here in my place (kerala)???

yes asus p5k vm is also good. . it has onboard graphics and is based on g33 chipset .. .

but surely , i dont think u intend to use onboard gfx as u mentioned that u want to play games ..

as far as avalability is concerned , no idea.

quote ur budget for mobo and gfx card.


for mobo , go4 either
1. xfx 650i ultra ( if u're going for this , check the DIMM slots b4 buying )
2. abit ip35.

for gfx card , depending on budget
1. xfx geforce 8800GT
2. galaxy or asus geforce 8600GT 256mb gddr3

finally , dont forget to buy a good smps .
if u take 8600 , go4 zebby 500W pure platinum - around 1.7k
if u take 8800 , go4 coolermaster extreme 600W or corsair 450W

IllegalUser
17-01-2008, 07:59 PM
guys.. can u suggest me a good mobo without onboard gfx?? does onboard gfx support if we get a new graphic card??

Pathik
17-01-2008, 08:25 PM
Get a Abit IP35e. 5.7k
Or a XFX 650i Ultra 4.8k
What is ur exact budget?
And nope you cant use ur onboard gfx if u hav a gfx card.

IllegalUser
17-01-2008, 08:44 PM
Get a Abit IP35e. 5.7k
Or a XFX 650i Ultra 4.8k
What is ur exact budget?
And nope you cant use ur onboard gfx if u hav a gfx card.

Under 5k.
thats my budget.. I'm gettin E6550 proccy..

Pathik
17-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Wait for some time. Till the e8xxx wolfdales are released.

nvidia
17-01-2008, 08:54 PM
^^I agree with Pathik.
Once they are released maybe you can get a quad core processor at that price or atleast e6750:)

IllegalUser
17-01-2008, 08:57 PM
wait til?? im planning to get it on Feb 2nd week! :)

nvidia
17-01-2008, 09:00 PM
^^Those processors will get released before March. Its better if you buy after they are released cuz you can buy better procys at a lower price.
Any processor you buy now will be outdated in less than 3 weeks if you buy now.... http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/31a.gif

Choto Cheeta
17-01-2008, 10:23 PM
HEy guys one of my freidns need a PC for normal stuff you know,lil bit programming,and movies and all.not much gaming.Budget 25k,can't extend it.The user is a complete noob who won't do any overclocking.Awaiting suggestions.And oH yea,the budget includes all the stuff,CPu+monitor+mouse+key+speakers and all.:)Hoping for some quick suggetsions as we got not much time.

Hey Ravi I guess you are your self good enough to make a config... :lol: but still pocking my nose in...

Lets count movie is what we are putting a primary... so, which means a 19" TFT is to be considered...

AMD X2 4200+ @ Rs. 3100 /- + TAX
ASUS M2A-VM @ Rs. 3200 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz Single Stick @ Rs. 1600 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Any Cabinet with Default 450 Watts local @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
19" TFT Dell / View Sonic vx1930wm @ Rs. 10500 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 500 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
2.1 Creative @ Rs. 1000 /- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1032 /-
Total Rs. 26832 /-

I am Rs. 1.8k extra than your budget but I guess with this config your frnd may not have problem to increase the budget for just 2k... :lol:

j1n M@tt
17-01-2008, 10:31 PM
hey guys, can u suggest a gud mobo for X2 5000 black edition

dOm1naTOr
17-01-2008, 10:38 PM
M2N VM for 3.5k
or M2A VM for 3.2k
K9A GM3 for 2.9k

These are all IGP boards
And ATX performance boards are
M2N E: 4.2k
K9N Neo2 : 4.3k

Pathik
17-01-2008, 10:40 PM
Asus m2a vm, m2n vm, m2n pv vm.. Depends on ur needs and budget.

Choto Cheeta
17-01-2008, 10:43 PM
@aravind

Cant say about rest of our country, but at Kolkata it seems dealers are not stocking the M2N-VM / M2V-VM :| they seems more interested in forcing the HDMI version of this models which is full 1.2k coslier than the non HDMI one :(

j1n M@tt
17-01-2008, 10:47 PM
I need one dat support OCing

janitha
17-01-2008, 10:49 PM
But somebody who chooses the difficult to get "black edition" is likely to have O/C as the main purpose.

j1n M@tt
17-01-2008, 10:51 PM
but M2A-VM does not hav the best m/y tweaking options

Choto Cheeta
17-01-2008, 10:51 PM
MAX of the AMD supporting MBs are good Over Clocker and all mentined here are certainly is :D

j1n M@tt
17-01-2008, 10:58 PM
and M2N E is an old mobo isn't it? not new chipset

@choto cheeta

dat guy dominator and I hav seen M2A-VM and M2N PV VM .Ask him if they are that gud for black edition

Choto Cheeta
17-01-2008, 11:02 PM
@choto cheeta

dat guy dominator and I hav seen M2A-VM and M2N PV VM .Ask him if they are that gud for black edition

Didnt get your question... What am I suppose to ask and whoom I suppose to ask ??

just for informaiton. I own or have tested both of the models you mentioned !!!

j1n M@tt
17-01-2008, 11:08 PM
@choto cheeta

dOm1naTOr and I hav also tested and own all d above mentioned boards.I want something new....

Choto Cheeta
17-01-2008, 11:13 PM
@choto cheeta

dOm1naTOr and I hav also tested and own all d above mentioned boards.I want something new....

Are you buying the board for testing purpose just ?? then eye for the higher Over Clockers, may be M2N-32-SLI Dlx would satisfy your testing needs from all aspect...

You may look for Crossfire supported boards but really not sure anout that platform and their availibility for AMD processor at India... !!!

as why would you need to buy a product which you already have :?:

j1n M@tt
17-01-2008, 11:15 PM
will dat new AMD 7xx chipset mobos come to India sooner

@choto cheeta

we don't just buy them;v sell them(see ma signature)

Choto Cheeta
17-01-2008, 11:17 PM
@choto cheeta

we don't just buy them;v sell them(see ma signature)

Sorry sir... I still didnt get you... can you please explain what your signature mean ??

Harvik780
17-01-2008, 11:33 PM
The 8800GS is out probably best VFM ATM.

Choto Cheeta
17-01-2008, 11:35 PM
The 8800GS is out probably best VFM ATM.


Price in USD please :) so that we can assume its INR value :lol:, usually it counts as 52x for Indian counter part when they comes to India :( not as per present USD value :(

Harvik780
17-01-2008, 11:40 PM
169$$ which means about Rs 9,000 when it comes to India.
Choto clear ur PM please.

Sorry but i am posting it here.
I used arctic cooling's MX-2 for my E6600 at 3.0Ghz and the results were amazing.
Without MX-2
29C at Idle and 51C on Load
With MX-2
18-19C at Idle and 34C on Load

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3941/torturecg9.jpg

Thought i would inform you of this.
Very good Thermal Paste excellent for enthusiasts.

Choto Cheeta
18-01-2008, 12:23 AM
I used arctic cooling's MX-2 for my E6600 at 3.0Ghz and the results were amazing.

Source and price of that :)

Pathik
18-01-2008, 12:26 AM
Yup price please.
Btw choto how do u find so much hardware to play with? U getting all of it 4 ur cafe??

Choto Cheeta
18-01-2008, 12:35 AM
Yup price please.
Btw choto how do u find so much hardware to play with? U getting all of it 4 ur cafe??

not only in cafes, frnds are there too... any new hardware most of my frnds buys, comes to my place for 7-15 days for a crash test :lol:

Harvik780
18-01-2008, 01:58 AM
I bought Arctic Cooling MX-2 from theitwares.

Choto Cheeta
18-01-2008, 02:09 AM
I bought Arctic Cooling MX-2 from theitwares.

thnx for the info :)

dOm1naTOr
18-01-2008, 06:23 PM
@j1n M@tt (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=27272)
choto knows much more on those mobos nd hardwares than most of us in this forum, including me. He's one of the H/W guru in here nd u shud know it.

if u wand something new then get this: M2NBP-VM CSM

Choto Cheeta
18-01-2008, 09:48 PM
@aravind

thnx for the comment but truelly mate, thats an over compliment... Certainly u must understand there is no limit for knowledge and one cant in any way know every thing from every aspect !!

same with me, there is always more to learn :D, i believe one can learn from any one even those who are considered to be a new comer :D

@Harvik780

PMs are cleared :lol:

dOm1naTOr
18-01-2008, 11:43 PM
Thats the kinda attitude which gives u ur reputation:)

j1n M@tt
19-01-2008, 11:53 AM
@aravind

domi , thanx for d info.....:oops:

@Choto Cheeta

sorry man, am a newbie here....:(, but I've been watching this forum for many years ,digit's forum is one of d best in Asia and its nice meet guys like u .........going through many threads , I came 2 know u r a man of gr8 knowledge and gud attitude; u always seems answering newbies without putting 'jada' like other 'hardware gurus'.:p

dOm1naTOr
19-01-2008, 03:12 PM
afaik, he dun know malayalam.

Choto Cheeta
19-01-2008, 03:37 PM
Some really interesting news from Chadni (Kolkata)

XFX 630i Ultra with Onboard Nvidia 7150 supporting C2Q and OC is Rs. 3450/- + TAX

will review as i am buying one :lol:

News is They are replacing the 650i ultra, I mean XFX as brand is calling all 650i boards back to replace it with 630i ultra onboard 7100 / 7150 :p

with post a detailed review soon :p

@Choto Cheeta

sorry man, am a newbie here....:(, but I've been watching this forum for many years ,digit's forum is one of d best in Asia and its nice meet guys like u .........going through many threads , I came 2 know u r a man of gr8 knowledge and gud attitude; u always seems answering newbies without putting 'jada' like other 'hardware gurus'.:p

Aree nahi yaar... U never need to appolozise for any thing :lol: I never mind any thing with you... !!!

Sunny1211993
19-01-2008, 04:03 PM
plz tell me a good config in 30K.
for office use only and a bit of gaming
intel C2D and a mobo with good onboard graphics needed.but cant spend even a penny over 30 k.
and a 19"LCD monitor is also required in this budget.

Choto Cheeta
19-01-2008, 04:40 PM
but cant spend even a penny over 30 k.

With Intel its really hard to stick on the exact budget :( as here too I am just another 1.5k extra :(

Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ Rs. 7000 /- + TAX
XFX 630i Ultra (Nvidia 7150) @ Rs. 3450 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz Kingstone Single Stick @ Rs. 1700 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA-II 7200.10 @ Rs. 1975 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Any Local Cabinet with 450 watts @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
19" Dell TFT or View Sonic vg1930wm / vx1945wm @ Rs. 10500 /- + TAX
Logitech / Microsoft Combo @ Rs. 700 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
2.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 1000 /- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1209 /-
Total Rs. 31434 /-

Certainly you may cut cost my going for E4500 :p which will save 2k on this config, but in that case as per cost and performance ratio goes, AMD will perform better :D

Sunny1211993
19-01-2008, 06:20 PM
@choto-thnx but i need only 1GB RAM nad 17" TFT but 250 Gb HDD:D
now tell any config plz

j1n M@tt
19-01-2008, 07:09 PM
taking a 17"TFT is not such a gud decision , just 4 d difference of 1.5k or 2k ur going to miss a 19" TFT.

dOm1naTOr
19-01-2008, 07:11 PM
Samsung 740nw : 8.5k
And most of todays 17" nd 19" TFTs support 1440*900 res. So with a 17" monitor, it looks sharper, nd almost no need for seting antialiasing in most games. But for movies, 19" wide wud be better.
320GB seagate perpendicular: 3.4k
Perpendicular ones have greater performance. SO its better to choose 320GB seagate which has perpendicular recording technology.
And there's only 700~750/- difference in 1G nd 2G single stick. So get 2GB, nd in future u can add another 2GB of same model to get dual ch.
And do get 2G 800Mhz one. It not only give better performance, but in future only DDR2 800 will be around for long [like the DDR333 is not available nd only 400].
SO for dual channel in future, get 800Mhz one.

a_k_s_h_a_y
19-01-2008, 07:11 PM
i wanted to buy a PC for 25k Max . choto please suggest a good config ! absolutely no gaming.

whats the price difference between 17inch and 19 inch ?? if its 1k then better a 17inch monitor
coz i won't game .... nor will i watch movies
wide screen preferred though

j1n M@tt
19-01-2008, 07:41 PM
with 1k or 1.5k difference u will get widescreen 19"TFT instead of a normal 17"TFT

a_k_s_h_a_y
19-01-2008, 07:48 PM
and what's the difference between 17 and 19 really.. resolution is the same right ???
so i better save the 1k for better thing.. right ?? or not really ??

if 19inch one out perform 17s in quality then i hv to go for 19 only

j1n M@tt
19-01-2008, 07:52 PM
Go for 19" Dell or View Sonic . u won't regret it later, I'm sure......

writealexthomas
19-01-2008, 10:50 PM
I have a budget of 8000-8500 for new mobo+proccy. I am thinking of C2D E4500, but can't decide on mobo. Kindly suggest the mobo or maybe any other proccy+mobo alternative.

dOm1naTOr
19-01-2008, 10:52 PM
XFX 630i Ultra is a gr8 mobo nd is around 3.6k as quoted by choto cheeta.
It has got nvidia 7150gfx.

j1n M@tt
19-01-2008, 11:07 PM
@writealexthomas

r u multi threading???......

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=725436#post725436

Choto Cheeta
19-01-2008, 11:12 PM
@writealexthomas

r u multi threading???......

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=725436#post725436

this one is dedicated to shorting out any new system related question, may be he didnt know and some one may have pointed him here... :) and I dont think there would be any problem as he posted here too :)

@aravind

On paper its a great mobo :p yet to see its performance :lol: though 1st major set back for me as an advance user is it doesnt support ntune utility :( apart from that on paper it is a really good solution for budget Core 2 Duo system as claims to support Over Clocking :)

writealexthomas
19-01-2008, 11:14 PM
I am not multi-threading brother. Technically, muclithreading means creating two parallel threads for the same topic. That thread is mine but this particular thread is not started by me. I am just talking here about the topic of my interest; or is it a SIN too ;)

@writealexthomas

r u multi threading???......

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=725436#post725436

j1n M@tt
19-01-2008, 11:19 PM
@choto cheeta

no problem http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/109.gif, just pointed out 2 him......I hav been reading both d threads,confused where 2 answer.I know this is d right place 2 post.....datz wat I really meant 2 him:p

Choto Cheeta
19-01-2008, 11:21 PM
@writealexthomas

Think for XFX 630i ultra at Rs. 3450/- + TAX :)

@choto cheeta

no problem http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/109.gif, just pointed out 2 him......I hav been reading both d threads,confused where 2 answer.I know this is d right place 2 post.....datz wat I really meant 2 him:p

u know main purpose of this thread for me was to try and sum up all those never ending upgrade and new system needed threads :lol: but people seems to miss the sticky and post a new thread once again :lol:

writealexthomas
19-01-2008, 11:25 PM
Which processor would go with XFX 630i ultra ?
Comparatively it would be better if it equals or betters E4500.

dOm1naTOr
19-01-2008, 11:27 PM
U can go with E4500 itself with 630i U.

Choto Cheeta
19-01-2008, 11:30 PM
Which processor would go with XFX 630i ultra ?
Comparatively it would be better if it equals or betters E4500.

I dont think you have too much option which you budget :lol: other than E4300


By the way, The 630i ultra doesnt support Dual Channel RAM configuration, having said that I would also point out, that XFX 650i ultra with 1 GB x 2 would be around Rs. 6600/- and XFX 630i Ultra with 4 GB single channel would be Rs. 7000/-, and 4 gb is certainly would perfome better than Dual Channel 2 GB :lol:

writealexthomas
19-01-2008, 11:30 PM
But I read in my the other thread that E4500 is out of production !!!
So, which proccy replaced it?

U can go with E4500 itself with 630i U.

j1n M@tt
19-01-2008, 11:47 PM
don't know if it is right http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/114.gif,but datz wat the RP guys r telling.

Edburg
20-01-2008, 11:24 AM
@choto the penryn processors are due anytime now and are taking the same prices of the e6550(2.33 + 4 MB) and others which the new e8200(2.66 + 6 MB + SSE4.1) and others are taking over.....

so wud the current e6XXX series fall to e4300 prices or they just cease to exist and let e4xxx carry on....

also looking eagerly towards the xfx 630i ultra review from you especially overclocking....but here (http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa;jsessionid=aqpN6KJDOWd6mIN 5sE?series=XFX+nForce+630i&seriesId=1698855) it says that it does supports ntune utility...

ASH_DSG
20-01-2008, 02:02 PM
Hi Freinds,
I've A Intel Celeron 2.8 Ghz. Processor Gigabyte 945gcm S2c 945 Chipset Motherboard & 1 Trancsend 1gb Ddr2 667mhz & 1 512mb Simmtronics Ddr2 667mhz. Ram. Should I Buy A New Graphics Card So That I Can Play New Games On My Pc And Which Card Should I Buy Nvidia Or Ati. Or Should I Upgrade The Processor Also. I Want To Buy A Dual Core E2140 Or 2200 Processor Is It Ok. Pls. Help Me Which Graphics Card & Processor Should I Use To Play Both New & Old Games And Mention Their Rates Also In Delhi.

j1n M@tt
20-01-2008, 04:04 PM
Hey man, u should buy a new gfx card 4 playing new games.........

but there is another thread dedicated 4 this kinda questions...so u post ur queries in d following link...http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=725937#post725937

j1n M@tt
20-01-2008, 04:28 PM
hey, everybody says so......Intel stopped E4500..... http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/106.gif

@choto cheeta

hey :p , hw did d testing of XFX 630i Ultra went?? plz post d benchmarking scores......Is it gud 4 OC ?? My elder bro needs a budget PC @25k. I ws planning 2 take AMD platform, but if xfx 630i is nice I'll go 4 Intel...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/105.gif....plz suggest a gud config for this Intel platform with current prices. He said he need a gfx card too...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/40.gif...am confused hw to limit d cost @25k with these demands.http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/18.gif

jeetu
20-01-2008, 04:50 PM
I need to buy a PC with few fixed specs,
1. Intel Core 2 CPU (budget around Rs 5,500)
2. Mobo with Intel chipset (965 or P 35) (Budget around 5500) with decent overclocking ability.
3. GFX 8600 GT
Along with these I need DD2-667 Ram , and a cabinet with SMPS. At least 250 GB Sata-2 hdd and Dvd writer.
Additionally I need help regarding few things.
Will 450 W SMPS I-ball cabinet be enough.?
Are Transcend Ram any good or should i go for better brand then how much will it cost?

j1n M@tt
20-01-2008, 05:24 PM
450W SMPS is enough, but check out other brands too other than iball(not dat iball is bad). Try 2 buy a Zebronic cab which comes along with a PSU, they r much stable 4 overclocking.

Transcend RAMs r gud 4 overclocking.......but if u hav more bucks to shell out, try these from Corsair which r available in pairs 4 dual channel :
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 2x1GB 800MHz :3.8K :D
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX 2x1GB 800MHz :4.5k :mrgreen:
http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/67.gifAccording 2 me itz a waste going 4 these......go 4 Transcend 2x1GB 667MHz or take a single stick of Transcend 2GB 800MHz.

mastermunj
20-01-2008, 05:42 PM
450W SMPS is enough, but check out other brands too other than iball(not dat iball is bad). Try 2 buy a Zebronic cab which comes along with a PSU, they r much stable 4 overclocking.

Transcend RAMs r gud 4 overclocking.......but if u hav more bucks to shell out, try these from Corsair which r available in pairs 4 dual channel :
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 2x1GB 800MHz :3.8K :D
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX 2x1GB 800MHz :4.5k :mrgreen:http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/67.gifAccording 2 me itz a waste going 4 these......go 4 Transcend 2x1GB 667MHz or take a single stick of Transcend 2GB 800MHz.



Is it good to go for 1X2GB stick rather than 2X1GB stick?

i asked same question 3 weeks back in some thread here..

and got a reasonable answer to go for 2X1GB saying that if any stick fails, i still can work with 1 GB.

would appreciate comments on this...

Choto Cheeta
20-01-2008, 05:53 PM
@choto cheeta

hey , hw did d testing of XFX 630i Ultra went?? plz post d benchmarking scores......Is it gud 4 OC ?? My elder bro needs a budget PC @25k. I ws planning 2 take AMD platform, but if xfx 630i is nice I'll go 4 Intel.......plz suggest a gud config for this Intel platform with current prices. He said he need a gfx card too......am confused hw to limit d cost @25k with these demands.

It has few of its own down sides, but initial thumbs up from my end :)... detailed review will come tonight :)

j1n M@tt
20-01-2008, 05:59 PM
@mastermunj

ha ha .....funny idea , 2x1GB ;1 stick fails and using the other!!! http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/35.gif...its true, u can do it dat way.

But in d above thread I mentioned 2x1GB 667MHz RAM(for dual channel u dude), b'coz it has almost the same performance of 2x1GB 800MHz. Its a waste spending dat extra bucks of 800MHz RAMs. Then I mentioned single stick 2GB 800MHz RAM b'coz there is no need for 2x2GB RAM for the above mentioned system, so I prefer 2GB 800MHz RAM over 2GB 667MHz RAM.http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/33.gif

mastermunj
20-01-2008, 06:04 PM
@mastermunj

ha ha .....funny idea , 2x1GB ;1 stick fails and using the other!!! http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/35.gif...its true, u can do it dat way.

But in d above thread I mentioned 2x1GB 667MHz RAM, b'coz it has almost the same performance of 2x1GB 800MHz. Its a waste spending dat extra bucks of 800MHz RAMs. Then I mentioned single stick 2GB 800MHz RAM b'coz there is no need for 2x2GB RAM for the above mentioned system, so I prefer 2GB 800MHz RAM over 2GB 667MHz RAM.http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/33.gif


sorry.. my writing mistake ..

what i meant was that if in 2X1GB .. some memory problem comes, pc will go off till new ones are not pushed in...

and in case of 1X2GB, if one stick fails, other can still help keeping work to go on.... coz.. the show must go on :D

guys, please say, which one to go for? 2X1GB or 1X2GB... let memory parameter be another issue of decision... its about physical functional components..

j1n M@tt
20-01-2008, 06:13 PM
I prefer 1x2GB 800MHz RAM..........memories r coming cheaper everyday. So when u hav time later add one up with d already purchased 2GB stick ....!!

jeetu
20-01-2008, 07:39 PM
450W SMPS is enough, but check out other brands too other than iball(not dat iball is bad). Try 2 buy a Zebronic cab which comes along with a PSU, they r much stable 4 overclocking.

Thanks man , do you whats the cost of this Zebronics Cabinet. I don't want to go above Rs. 1,500.

Could you help me also regarding overclockable motherboard (based on intel 965 or newer chipset) with preferablely x3100 on budget of Rs. 6,000?

a_k_s_h_a_y
20-01-2008, 08:06 PM
what's future proof ??

if now buy 1x2 GB 667 ... later i hope i can add 2 GB 800hz more
i hope that will work.. 2 of 667 and 2 of 800.
if will be happy if it works... mean it will work as 4 GB 667 speed right ??

coz am worried later no 667 RAM might be available.. only 800 Mhz might be available for sale..!!


667 Ram can now save money .. and moreover almost same performance .. right ?? as matt is saying !!

janitha
20-01-2008, 08:14 PM
I prefer 1x2GB 800MHz RAM..........memories r coming cheaper everyday. So when u hav time later add one up with d already purchased 2GB stick ....!!

But can 32 bit XP or Vista make use of > 3.2GB?

dOm1naTOr
20-01-2008, 08:44 PM
There are patches for XP x86 to address more than 4G mem. Dun know bout XP.
U can get dual channel with 2x667 and 2x800 pairs. And with transcent modules u can easily get the 667mhz module to run @ 800.

But 800 ones will be better as the price difference is bout only 100~200 for 1G stick.

And i wud anyday recommend only 2*800Mhz transcent for 1.1k*2=2.2k
And u can pair another sticks with them in future without disturbing dual channel.

And bout cabby, Zebronics Elegence is a gud one. It has enuf room and comes with 2*80mm fans on side panel and u can have one on rear too[not bundled].
It has moderate build quality, better than iball,mercury etc and decent looks, and comes with Zeb 400W PSU with 17A on 12v rail.
Also it has thumb screws for one panel, nd the other is a sealed one. So u can't go BTX.
Its price is 1150/- incl of tax.

hellgate
20-01-2008, 09:44 PM
There are patches for XP x86 to address more than 4G mem. Dun know bout XP.

r the patches available for Vista x86 or XP x86?
plz clarify.
if patches r available for Vista x86 then cud u plz post links?

Edburg
20-01-2008, 09:55 PM
hey choto was waiting eagerly for your review on xfx 630i ultra....but could not resist trying agai for googling it though it failed before.....

to my surprise your review on your site came up as the first result.....congrats choto....

Choto Cheeta
20-01-2008, 10:08 PM
by the way, on my personal opinion (which can be different with many) unless u are thinking of a performance ram like 800 MHz Corsire or such, for price factor, I prefer 2 GB Single Stick 667 over 1 GB x 2 800 MHz format as later on it will allow me to add another 667 MHz 2 GB (which would be more cheap) few months later to run at dual Channel with 4 GB :D ...

Once again its just my personal opinion as I have felt that system is running better with more RAM rather high speed (value) ram...

This idea completelly changes when I have used any performance RAM or 800 MHz or 1066 MHz (SLI RAMs) they are really really expensive, so, out of question...

:)

@choto cheeta

hey :p , hw did d testing of XFX 630i Ultra went?? plz post d benchmarking scores......Is it gud 4 OC ?? My elder bro needs a budget PC @25k. I ws planning 2 take AMD platform, but if xfx 630i is nice I'll go 4 Intel...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/105.gif....plz suggest a gud config for this Intel platform with current prices. He said he need a gfx card too...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/40.gif...am confused hw to limit d cost @25k with these demands.http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/18.gif

Why would u need an onboard grfx if u plan to run GRFX card ??

hellgate
20-01-2008, 10:21 PM
buy only a gfx card now.also dont buy anything above 8600GT else ur procy will be a bottleneck in ur pc.

j1n M@tt
20-01-2008, 10:26 PM
I'm prefering xfx 630i not b'coz of onboard gfx but since it costs only 3.6k..http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/78.gif

Pathik
20-01-2008, 10:30 PM
Choto sir wich 630i board did u get?? Did i miss something here??

Choto Cheeta
20-01-2008, 10:36 PM
@Pathik

refer here

http://www.chotocheeta.com/2008/01/20/quick-look-review-at-xfx-630i-7150-motherboard-for-a-budget-yes-performance-quad-core-system/

I'm prefering xfx 630i not b'coz of onboard gfx but since it costs only 3.6k..http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/78.gif

NO, u will miss the dual channel and extra 2 RAM slot when u consider running a Gaming system :p do opt for XFX 650i ultra or ABiT IP35-E (Rs. 4900/- + TAX)

:)

Pathik
20-01-2008, 10:36 PM
Btw guys The 4xxx series ll be phased out. 6xxx ll replace 4xxx and 8xxx wolfdales ll replace 6xxx conroes. Just wait 4 some time for price stabilization

Choto Cheeta
20-01-2008, 10:38 PM
Btw guys The 4xxx series ll be phased out. 6xxx ll replace 4xxx and 8xxx wolfdales ll replace 6xxx conroes. Just wait 4 some time for price stabilization

Personally I would love to see E4xxx replacing the Intel Dual Core E2xxx :lol: if only it happens :lol:

saqib_khan
20-01-2008, 10:40 PM
Upgrade ur processor & mobo also.
And i have 1 question.
Y r u thinking to buy Dual Core E2140 Or 2200 Processor, is this processor compatible for ur mobo, i don't think so.

Therefore i advice u to buy a new mobo & processor also besides GPU.
I think u should go for
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ or 4800+
Motherboard: Jetway M28GT3-SDG (Chipset: Nvidia geforce 7025)
OR
ASUS M2A-VM (Chipset: AMD RS-690G)

And, yes i agree with hellgate.
I don't know the price for Delhi.

Edburg
20-01-2008, 10:46 PM
@choto can we know more about overclocking on the 630i ultra....as to how much u managed to get on Q6600 and also on E2140....

Choto Cheeta
20-01-2008, 10:47 PM
@choto can we know more about overclocking on the 630i ultra....as to how much u managed to get on Q6600 and also on E2140....

please wait few mins... as I am compiling a post for Forums also, we shall carrey the discussion there at that post :)

thank you....

a_k_s_h_a_y
21-01-2008, 09:05 PM
any price cuts around guys ??
intel ?? wht abt amd ??

will the 45nm be cheaper then the current intel procy ??

j1n M@tt
21-01-2008, 09:20 PM
I think there will be a price cut from Intel.........http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/6.gif

the E8xxx series 45nm procs which r already released in US costs less than current 65nm equivalents....E8400 costs almost the same price of E6550 !!!http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/111.gif

Choto Cheeta
21-01-2008, 11:11 PM
the E8xxx series 45nm procs which r already released in US costs less than current 65nm equivalents....E8400 costs almost the same price of E6550 !!!

lets wait n see :)

juggler
22-01-2008, 11:11 AM
I think there will be a price cut from Intel.........http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/6.gif

the E8xxx series 45nm procs which r already released in US costs less than current 65nm equivalents....E8400 costs almost the same price of E6550 !!!http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/111.gif

lets hope that its true in india too :)

New
22-01-2008, 12:52 PM
Choto sir I need a processor and mobo combo for just4k...

Choto Cheeta
22-01-2008, 02:48 PM
Choto sir I need a processor and mobo combo for just4k...

AMD Sempron 64 3200+ (AM2) @ Rs. 1050/- + TAX
MSI K9AGM2 or ASUS M2N-MX SE @ Rs. 2450/- + TAX

:)

New
22-01-2008, 03:40 PM
Thank you sir..
Can I get any Intel Duo processor in this range?

Choto Cheeta
22-01-2008, 05:47 PM
Thank you sir..
Can I get any Intel Duo processor in this range?

There are non for Desktop range :( the lowest would be Dual Core E2140 which is Rs. 2450/- + TAX, for that lowest Mobo I would refer is, XFX 630i Nvidia 7150 (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2008/01/20/quick-look-review-at-xfx-630i-7150-motherboard-for-a-budget-yes-performance-quad-core-system/), which is Rs. 3450/- + TAX :(

The_Devil_Himself
22-01-2008, 10:13 PM
whats the difference between uATX and mATX?I am planning to buy a mATX mobo,I hace currently intel946gzis mobo which is uATX,so will the new mATX fit in my cabby?(I mean the screw holes and all).

Choto Cheeta
22-01-2008, 10:31 PM
microATX, also known as µATX :D

The_Devil_Himself
22-01-2008, 10:38 PM
^^I know that size is the same but there are some difference in screw positioning.And mATX and uATX are different I guess(according to some googled sides).I am not sure though.I can't buy a new cabby.

Choto Cheeta
22-01-2008, 10:41 PM
^^I know that size is the same but there are some difference in screw positioning.And mATX and uATX are different I guess(according to some googled sides).I am not sure though.I can't buy a new cabby.

Till date I have not seen any Cabi which can fit the mATX but cant fit the uATX :p they are same :) so rest a sure if u can fit mATX u will be able to fit uATX :) which board u wish to buy ??

The_Devil_Himself
22-01-2008, 10:45 PM
^^Palit N73V(don't tell anybody else,lol).Don't have even a single rupee more to spend on 'better' mobos'.All I need is a pci-e slot for my 8600gt+2RAM slots for my 2x1gb RAM sticks(I don't give a damn about dual channel).Thanks for the info BTW.

Choto Cheeta
22-01-2008, 10:54 PM
wait wait wait.. it is 610i also no Dual Channel support :(

:shock: :shock:

All though you have not asked for any advice but as a well wisher and a frnd, bro, stick with your Intel D946GZIS

D946GIS supports Dual Channel :) would deliver better performance compare to 610i with single channel and there is no effect of the onboard VGA as u plan to run 8600 GT :) as the D946GIS do comes with 1 x16 PCI-E Slot :D

why would u chage the board ?? out of my understanding :p its simply waste of that Rs. 2.8k :(

The_Devil_Himself
22-01-2008, 10:57 PM
^^you missed THIS (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78141) thread of mine.Sad story.My mobo's has gone nutz.:(.

Choto Cheeta
22-01-2008, 11:01 PM
check that thread :)

New
22-01-2008, 11:55 PM
Thanks Choto Sir for the information...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/6.gif

MetalheadGautham
23-01-2008, 01:20 AM
@cheeta: in your first post, you speak of 3600+ in the budget PC. But 4200+ is available for just a triffle more, but the performance boost is really high. So concider revising.

satyamy
23-01-2008, 09:57 AM
Can Someone tell me the Price of Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 and its Compatible Board ?

vps85
23-01-2008, 09:57 AM
Hi,

I have a maximum budget of 20k. in that i need to buy

1) Processor -
2) Motherboard - Latest chipset (with or without onboard graphics. if no onborad graphics then please suggest me a gfx card for not more than 5k)
3) Ram ( ddr 2 or ddr3)
4) HDD
5) Cabinet

Please suggest me a good config. I will be using it for VS.net 2k8, Sql server 2005, Dreamweaver. and ofcourse some games like HL2,Doom3 atleast @1024*768 with medium eyecandy.

hellgate
23-01-2008, 10:43 AM
Can Someone tell me the Price of Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 and its Compatible Board ?

afaik E6420 is no longer available.
get a E6550 instead.

Hi,

I have a maximum budget of 20k. in that i need to buy

1) Processor -
2) Motherboard - Latest chipset (with or without onboard graphics. if no onborad graphics then please suggest me a gfx card for not more than 5k)
3) Ram ( ddr 2 or ddr3)
4) HDD
5) Cabinet

Please suggest me a good config. I will be using it for VS.net 2k8, Sql server 2005, Dreamweaver. and ofcourse some games like HL2,Doom3 atleast @1024*768 with medium eyecandy.

1>C2D E4500 -
2>XFX 630i Ultra - 3.6 / Abit IP35-E - 4.9k (no onboard gfx for IP35-E)
3>2*1GB DDR2 667 - 2k
4>160GB - 2k
5>Cabinet + PSU - 1.5-2k
6>if ur low on budget after buying these then get 8400GS else 8600GT.

Pathik
23-01-2008, 11:49 AM
@vps85
get a e4500 4.8k
a abit ip35e 5.6k
xfx 8600 gt 5k
2gb ddr2 667 mhz ram 1.7k
250gb sata 2 2.7k
cabby + 500w psu 2k
21.8k.. But damn good. If u want to cut costs get a xfx 650i ultra/630i ultra/ dg33bu

vps85
23-01-2008, 02:06 PM
1) wats the L2 cache of e4500 ? is it 4mb or 8mb?
2) is abit mobos are good? i havent heard...whether intel g35 chipsets are available? im thinking of going for a onboard gfx with pcle slot for gfx card to buy in future. and also im looking for more features in mobo..overclocking i dont want..future proof mobo im looking ...
3) suggest me a good cabinet pls

rest looks fine.. thank you..

Choto Cheeta
23-01-2008, 02:10 PM
1) wats the L2 cache of e4500 ? is it 4mb or 8mb?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

2 MB :)

Pathik
23-01-2008, 02:20 PM
2. Yea they r good. No g35 aint out yet.
3. Get a iball grabit wit 500w psu 4 1.7k

vps85
23-01-2008, 03:14 PM
oh fine..ty..

which is best ?

c2d 6550 + G33 - GFX card or c2d4500 + abit ip35e + xfx 8600gt? ------well if i go for 65500 i will be getting 2 mb more l2 cache...so is this will be big performance boost?

i havent thought of a AMD solution ..so if i go for AMD soln wat can i go for...with processor ( max budget 6.5k ) mobo max budget - 6k

typo error ...it was c2d 6550

Choto Cheeta
23-01-2008, 03:17 PM
c2d4500 + abit ip35e + xfx 8600gt

my vote :)

Pathik
23-01-2008, 03:22 PM
^^ Mine too.

IllegalUser
23-01-2008, 05:47 PM
hey guys can u tell me a good proccy,mobo and a graphic card.. BUDGET - 35k..

Pathik
23-01-2008, 05:58 PM
Intel q6600
XFX 8800gt 512mb Alphadog
Abit IP35 Pro.

IllegalUser
23-01-2008, 06:03 PM
Intel q6600
XFX 8800gt 512mb Alphadog
Abit IP35 Pro.

AFAIK Abit mobo is not available at my place.. so can u suggest me any other motherboard??

Pathik
23-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Asus p5k deluxe.
Asus p5n 32 e sli

IllegalUser
23-01-2008, 06:19 PM
Asus p5k deluxe.
Asus p5n 32 e sli

THANK YOU !! :)

sagargv
23-01-2008, 06:23 PM
^^Palit N73V(don't tell anybody else,lol).Don't have even a single rupee more to spend on 'better' mobos'.All I need is a pci-e slot for my 8600gt+2RAM slots for my 2x1gb RAM sticks(I don't give a damn about dual channel).Thanks for the info BTW.

i read ur thread and felt really sorry for u.

y dont u give it a shot by trying ur 8600 in ur frends pc ?

MetalheadGautham
23-01-2008, 07:45 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

2 MB :)
life ho tho aisi

Choto Cheeta
23-01-2008, 09:02 PM
hey guys can u tell me a good proccy,mobo and a graphic card.. BUDGET - 35k..

Intel Q6600 @ Rs. 10800 /- + TAX
ABiT IP35-Pro @ Rs. 9200 /- + TAX
XFX 8800 GT 512 MB @ Rs. 13800 /- + TAX

:)

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1352 /-
Total Rs. 35152 /-

IllegalUser
23-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Intel Q6600 @ Rs. 10800 /- + TAX
ABiT IP35-Pro @ Rs. 9200 /- + TAX
XFX 8800 GT 512 MB @ Rs. 13800 /- + TAX

:)

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1352 /-
Total Rs. 35152 /-

Thank you Choto.. :)

MetalheadGautham
24-01-2008, 05:28 AM
For a rig mainly for Multimedia, Graphics, Running Maya, encoding movies and gaming, along with audio/video production(Ubuntu Studio), please suggest between thefollowing processors, also mentioning the cost and the quality:

Intel Xeon Quad Core
AMD Phenom
AMD Optron 3G
C2Q6600

Choto Cheeta
24-01-2008, 09:53 AM
^^^^

Well processor would depend on full config... but if you want to build a system around the processor all 4 are quite good... AMD is know to run really cool and power saver with their Phenom and Optron 3G range with the Cool and Quite 2.0, better than Intel, where as usually Core2 range is still bits AMD under performance TAB :)

so u can go with any by building a system around them :)

hellgate
24-01-2008, 10:41 AM
For a rig mainly for Multimedia, Graphics, Running Maya, encoding movies and gaming, along with audio/video production(Ubuntu Studio), please suggest between thefollowing processors, also mentioning the cost and the quality:

Intel Xeon Quad Core
AMD Phenom
AMD Optron 3G
C2Q6600

i wud suggest Q6600 cuz if needed u can oc it by a good extent.its not that Xenon's r not good oc'r but u'll get a Q6600 easily.

dont know how the Phenoms oc but then they get easily beaten by the Intels.so no use buying lossers.

j1n M@tt
24-01-2008, 10:53 AM
^^ Phenom hav some optimization problems...so they will not perform to its full glory http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/46.gif ,but they r future proof......http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/67.gif

When used in spider platform(phenom+7xx chipset+HD3xxx GPU), they can give about 30% increase in multimedia and graphics rendering http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/67.gif

vrslvrs
26-01-2008, 12:09 AM
Help To Buy A New Computer.

Guys Help Me to buy a new computer with a budget around 35 to 40,000.

All I want is Good Performance Processor and Ram with decent Sound Card, Graphics Card, Tv tuner card, 4.1 Speakers, 17 inch Monitor, Blueray or Dvd writter and a wireless keyboard and mouse.

Choto Cheeta
26-01-2008, 12:16 AM
What would be your use ?? please let us know what would u do with the system mainly ??

vrslvrs
26-01-2008, 12:17 AM
What would be your use ?? please let us know what would u do with the system mainly ??

It must be ready for handling anything ;)

Choto Cheeta
26-01-2008, 12:19 AM
It must be ready for handling anything ;)

sir u didnt get the point... :( unless u have a reason for the system its hard to build a config suited for a certain need... is it for home entertainment ?? or will u play a lot of game in it ?? or is it for video editing ??

please state your reason for buying a PC :)

thank you :)

j1n M@tt
26-01-2008, 12:21 AM
hey dude, u need a Blueray writer??!!...and ur budget is 35k-40k???http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/76.gif

so plz mention for wat purpose u wanna use ur d*#@$:D system......http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/70.gif

Choto Cheeta
26-01-2008, 12:23 AM
so plz mention for wat purpose u wanna use ur damn system......http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/70.gif

language my frnd... please correct it :) if you dont have a solution, then please stop your self to reply... some one is looking for help, we should either help or better we should not comment, if we dont have any thing to reply with :(

vrslvrs
26-01-2008, 12:26 AM
^^ hey dude, u need a Blueray writer??!!...and ur budget is 35k-40k???http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/76.gif

so plz mention for wat purpose u wanna use ur damn system......http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/70.gif

sir u didnt get the point... :( unless u have a reason for the system its hard to build a config suited for a certain need... is it for home entertainment ?? or will u play a lot of game in it ?? or is it for video editing ??

please state your reason for buying a PC :)

thank you :)


Yes purely for home entertainment and little bit of games.;)
yes love to have a Blueray writer, may i know the price of it......:p

language my frnd... please correct it :) if you dont have a solution, then please stop your self to reply... some one is looking for help, we should either help or better we should not comment, if we dont have any thing to reply with :(

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

j1n M@tt
26-01-2008, 12:34 AM
http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/113.gifhey guys take it in a gud way.....I mean it in a casual ways....http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/40.gif.....

@vrslvrs

the cheatest blueray writer will cost abt 20K:) ma bro.....

vrslvrs
26-01-2008, 12:36 AM
M@tt;731118]http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/113.gif[/email]hey guys take it in a gud way.....I mean it in a casual ways....http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/40.gif.....

@vrslvrs

the cheatest blueray writer will cost abt 20K:) ma bro.....

:???: forget about the blueray.
now suggest me good computer with a budget of 35 to 40

Choto Cheeta
26-01-2008, 12:41 AM
M@tt;731118]http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/113.gif[/email]hey guys take it in a gud way.....I mean it in a casual ways....http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/40.gif.....

got it :)

yes love to have a Blueray writer, may i know the price of it......

the writer may it self cost u more than the system :( and also the blank media is out of common man's reach :(

Yes purely for home entertainment and little bit of games

For entertainment one should concentrate on a better display !!!

Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ Rs. 6700 /- + TAX
ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 4900 /- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT 256MB @ Rs. 5500 /- + TAX
Pinnacle TV Tuner Kit for Vista with Remote @ Rs. 2100 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II (Single Stick) 667 MHz @ Rs. 1800 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 450 /500 watts) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
19" vx1945wm (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2008/01/22/quick-look-review-at-view-sonic-vx1945wm-19-hd-widescreen-with-viewdock/) or Dell 198wef @ Rs. 10500 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 700 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1624 /-
Total Rs. 42224 /-

j1n M@tt
26-01-2008, 12:48 AM
@choto cheeta

I think its time v should stop recommending Lite-ON DVD writer......lots of complains....

vrslvrs
26-01-2008, 12:51 AM
got it :)



the writer may it self cost u more than the system :( and also the blank media is out of common man's reach :(



For entertainment one should concentrate on a better display !!!

Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ Rs. 6700 /- + TAX
ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 4900 /- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT 256MB @ Rs. 5500 /- + TAX
Pinnacle TV Tuner Kit for Vista with Remote @ Rs. 2100 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II (Single Stick) 667 MHz @ Rs. 1800 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 450 /500 watts) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
19" vx1945wm (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2008/01/22/quick-look-review-at-view-sonic-vx1945wm-19-hd-widescreen-with-viewdock/) or Dell 198wef @ Rs. 10500 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 700 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1624 /-
Total Rs. 42224 /-

Wow Thanks. How about quard core processor ?? and 17" lg monitor ?? and wireless keyboard and mouse ???? and what sound card ?? :confused:

j1n M@tt
26-01-2008, 01:02 AM
I ws d first one to get hands on Lite-on LH-20A1P in our clan....its d coolest drive I hav ever benchmarked. Its true.........but lately v brought 3 this kinda drives.....dOm1naTOr tested and said the following problems:

high vibration and noisy
high spin-up or disc detect time
faulty burning
low tray qualitythese problems were found with all the 3 drives v lately brought.....:(

So I prefer Lite-on LH-20AIH (light-scribe model) or the Asus SATA drives.:)

vrslvrs
26-01-2008, 01:04 AM
is vista is nice ? can i install both windows xp and vista as dual boot ???

I ws d first one to get hands on Lite-on LH-20A1P in our clan....its d coolest drive I hav ever benchmarked. Its true.........but lately v brought 3 this kinda drives.....dOm1naTOr tested and said the following problems:

high vibration and noisy
high spin-up or disc detect time
faulty burning
low tray qualitythese problems were found with all the 3 drives v lately brought.....:(

So I prefer Lite-on LH-20AIH (light-scribe model) or the Asus SATA drive.:)
Ok :)
What about LG dvdwritter ?
is vista is nice ? can i install both windows xp and vista as dual boot ???

j1n M@tt
26-01-2008, 01:11 AM
^^ LG drives r gud, but r not d performance drives.....and they r d cheapest.

:p ya buddy, Vista is gr8 and its a must if hav to live in this world(Windows and Bill Gates rulz d world:()......, and u can install both Win XP and Vista on ur system,u can dual boot it:)

vrslvrs
26-01-2008, 01:17 AM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ Rs. 6700 /- + TAX
ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 4900 /- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT 256MB @ Rs. 5500 /- + TAX
Pinnacle TV Tuner Kit for Vista with Remote @ Rs. 2100 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II (Single Stick) 667 MHz @ Rs. 1800 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 450 /500 watts) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
19" vx1945wm (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2008/01/22/quick-look-review-at-view-sonic-vx1945wm-19-hd-widescreen-with-viewdock/) or Dell 198wef @ Rs. 10500 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 700 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1624 /-
Total Rs. 42224 /-

Wow Thanks. How about quard core processor ?? and 17" lg monitor ?? and wireless keyboard and mouse ???? and what sound card ?? :confused:

Choto Cheeta
26-01-2008, 11:03 AM
@j1n M@tt

all are same :lol: any sub 1.5k DVD burner is same :lol: have them all, and Liteon DVD RW may be noisy but, personally saw it has the lowest faliurs, and also

there is a major issue which comes with with all, LG writen DVDs some time is not readable at ASUS drives :(, ASUS writen DVDs some time is not readable at Sony drives :p

where as i see this Liteon Model (@ 1275/-) writes compatible too all :) however none of the buyer from this thread came back to complain about Liteon...

but ok, point taken, option should be given, LG @ Rs. 1325/- can also be there, buy which ever you feel the best :D

Wow Thanks. How about quard core processor ?? and 17" lg monitor ?? and wireless keyboard and mouse ???? and what sound card ??

for your need you do not need QUad Core, even a Dual Core E2140 is more than enough.... what you need is bigger display even if possible then 22" WideScreen...

The motherboard ABiT IP35-Pro comes with onboard 8 Channel (7.1) HD audio :)

Rs. 2000/- for logitech Combo for Wireless, but high running cost with their battery needs :(

varunprabhakar
26-01-2008, 11:55 AM
^^
logitech wireless combo costs around 1200

axxo
26-01-2008, 01:48 PM
@j1n M@tt

all are same :lol: any sub 1.5k DVD burner is same :lol: have them all, and Liteon DVD RW may be noisy but, personally saw it has the lowest faliurs, and also

there is a major issue which comes with with all, LG writen DVDs some time is not readable at ASUS drives :(, ASUS writen DVDs some time is not readable at Sony drives :p

where as i see this Liteon Model (@ 1275/-) writes compatible too all :) however none of the buyer from this thread came back to complain about Liteon...

but ok, point taken, option should be given, LG @ Rs. 1325/- can also be there, buy which ever you feel the best :D
s :(

Liteon drives are not good performer in my opinion..i own 2 Liteon DVD writers one of which started giving problem before the end of year...

It has problem reading CDs and DVD writing frequently fails..

ASUS is the best one...next comes samsung/LG..dont go for Liteon & sony they are one and the same..lot of duplicates in the market..

its only digit & digitians given too much hype about sony & liteon..but both sucks..

not my case i found another digitian some isssue with Liteon

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79000

Pathik
26-01-2008, 03:29 PM
This thing differs from person to person.
IMO Sony and LiteOn and Asus make the best drives. I hav never ha a problem with any drive.

kartik
26-01-2008, 03:43 PM
Excellent thread to buy a pc ....Thank u very much

sagargv
26-01-2008, 04:05 PM
i have a LG drive since 3 years ( it was 6k wen i bought it ). .and its working fine.

j1n M@tt
26-01-2008, 05:39 PM
hey u guys, I didn't told u guys dat Lite-on is dat bad:shock:....I still use d first drive I got from Lite-on, and Lite-on is still ma hero:cool:......

but I don't know wat happened to them......all the drives v sold out lately came back with bad feedbacks.....:(

@axxo

hey dude :rolleyes:,Lite-on's writing speeds and quality r fantastic......no other drives can beat them......digit and forum guys r not blabbing:rolleyes:

(except one drive dat dOm1naTOr tested takes more time for DVD burning than the Sony 170S:().

s18000rpm
27-01-2008, 06:03 AM
Suggest a motherboard.

i was thinking of Intel x38 based ones, but some reviews state that currently there's little difference in performance between x38 & p35.
[budeget = $200]

i'll be overclocking the processor, Intel c2d e4500.
i'll try to get Nvidia 9600gt (if it launches by feb mid week) or get 8800gs

what SMPS should i buy, currently i have Zebronics 400W PSU, noisy.

how about Cooler Master Real Power Pro 650W
(RS-650-ACAA-A1)
http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?language=en&act=detail&tbcate=22&id=2551

[purchase to be made at USA]

Pathik
27-01-2008, 01:26 PM
Get a cheap p35 now. save cash and get a x48 directly wen it launches. and do wait for the 9x00 series.

j1n M@tt
27-01-2008, 06:18 PM
^^ If u r wating for 9600gt, then wait for x48 too.....for the time being take a Abit IP35-E....its a quite gud mobo

vrslvrs
27-01-2008, 10:25 PM
PCI express graphics OR AGP graphics cards ???? which is better and faster ???

Sunny1211993
27-01-2008, 10:31 PM
^^
PCIe is better n faster and the best choice if ur mobo supports it

j1n M@tt
27-01-2008, 10:35 PM
AGP is d old standard interface for add-on devices......now its PCIe. So go for PCIe grfx cards than AGP gards........but u will need motherboard which has PCIe slot. If u hav old AGP based mobo, then there r AGP equivalents of every PCIe grfx cards that is in the market. But since AGP is d old standard their cost is high, due to manufacturing and demand issuses.

vrslvrs
27-01-2008, 10:45 PM
AGP is d old standard interface for add-on devices......now its PCIe. So go for PCIe grfx cards than AGP gards........but u will need motherboard which has PCIe slot. If u hav old AGP based mobo, then there r AGP equivalents of every PCIe grfx cards that is in the market. But since AGP is d old standard their cost is high, due to manufacturing and demand issuses.

Thanks :-)

dOm1naTOr
27-01-2008, 10:49 PM
@vrslvrs (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=12668)
its not a question of which is better, but which is compatible with ur mobo. Mobos has either PCIE slot or AGP slot, nd theorytically PCIE slot has double the data bandwidth than AGP interface
And newer cards are only available in PCIE, and AGP cards are getting outdated now.
And even PCIE 2.0 has been into market, nd u shud dun even think of getting an AGP card. And nowadays AGP cads has very little value for money nd systems with AGP interface will have many bottlenecks like memory, proccy, fsb etc.

So all this means PCIE is the way to go, or better PCIE 2.0.

vrslvrs
27-01-2008, 10:51 PM
Intel 2.4 quad core 1066 fsb 8mb cache
intel dg33fbc motherboard
XFX geforce card 512mb
2 gb ddr2 ram
250 GB SATA hardsik
lg dvd writer
Mercury cabinet with smps
17" CRT LG monitor
Logitech Keyboard Mouse
creative audigy soundcard 7.1
5.1 Creaitve Inspre

Total 44,000

IS THIS CONFIGURATION IS GOOD FOR REFOMANCE AND LITTLE BIT OF GAMING ?? IS IT WORTH FOR PRICE 44,000 ??

dOm1naTOr
27-01-2008, 11:04 PM
@vrslvrs (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=12668)
the config seems ombalanced.
this is better:
E 6550 : 6.4k
XFX 650I U: 4.9k
2*1G DDR 800: 2.4k
250 HDD: 2.5k
Zebronics Elegence cabby: 0.8k[w/o PSU].
19" Dell 198wfp or Viwsonic 1930vm: 10k
8800GT 512: 13k
inspire 5.1: 3.5k
MS k/b nd mouse : 0.7k
LG DVD RW IDE: 1.2k
----------------------------------
45.4k
And add another 2~3k for a gud PSU

this config makes more sense.

Choto Cheeta
27-01-2008, 11:07 PM
@vrslvrs

Intel 2.4 quad core 1066 fsb 8mb cache <- Rs. 10300/- + (4%) TAX
intel dg33fbc motherboard <- Out of question
XFX geforce card 512mb <- Whats the Model ??
2 gb ddr2 ram <- Whats the FSB ?? if 667 then Rs. 1800/- + TAX for single stick, and 850/- + TAX for 1 GB stick :)
250 GB SATA hardsik <- Whats the Buffer ?? if 16mb then Rs. 2600/- + TAX
lg dvd writer <- Interface ?? SATA or IDE ??
Mercury cabinet with smps <- Cabinet will do but u need a colorSit or powersafe or zebronics 500 watts :)
17" CRT LG monitor <- Rs. 4100/- + TAX
Logitech Keyboard Mouse If wired then Rs. 700/- + TAX
creative audigy soundcard 7.1 <- U dont need it, mobo onboard would do :lol:
5.1 Creaitve Inspre <- Rs. 3800/- :)

@Arvind

Whats the news at your place about the 650i ?? as XFX 650i is been called of from the market as i see... u still getting the board at ur local market ??

j1n M@tt
27-01-2008, 11:09 PM
@vrslvrs
for 44k u will get better than dat......

@choto cheeta

v can still get XFX 650i here......old stocks from RP guys here....

dOm1naTOr
27-01-2008, 11:11 PM
Nup, the dealers says thet are not getting new stocks. But maybe they can procure some old piece from somewhere [but i think more chance of getting broken/dmaged piece].
But it still be available in bigger cities are most stores ll have more stocks.
And here even 630iU is said to come in this week only.

Choto Cheeta
27-01-2008, 11:12 PM
@s18000rpm

ABiT IP35 Pro (http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=IP35+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775) should come well under your budget :)

its P35 board :) but hell of a over clocker and net is flowded with positive reviews :)

vrslvrs
27-01-2008, 11:23 PM
@vrslvrs (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=12668)
the config seems ombalanced.
this is better:
E 6550 : 6.4k
XFX 650I U: 4.9k
2*1G DDR 800: 2.4k
250 HDD: 2.5k
Zebronics Elegence cabby: 0.8k[w/o PSU].
19" Dell 198wfp or Viwsonic 1930vm: 10k
8800GT 512: 13k
inspire 5.1: 3.5k
MS k/b nd mouse : 0.7k
LG DVD RW IDE: 1.2k
----------------------------------
45.4k
And add another 2~3k for a gud PSU

this config makes more sense.
@vrslvrs

Intel 2.4 quad core 1066 fsb 8mb cache <- Rs. 10300/- + (4%) TAX
intel dg33fbc motherboard <- Out of question
XFX geforce card 512mb <- Whats the Model ??
2 gb ddr2 ram <- Whats the FSB ?? if 667 then Rs. 1800/- + TAX for single stick, and 850/- + TAX for 1 GB stick :)
250 GB SATA hardsik <- Whats the Buffer ?? if 16mb then Rs. 2600/- + TAX
lg dvd writer <- Interface ?? SATA or IDE ??
Mercury cabinet with smps <- Cabinet will do but u need a colorSit or powersafe or zebronics 500 watts :)
17" CRT LG monitor <- Rs. 4100/- + TAX
Logitech Keyboard Mouse If wired then Rs. 700/- + TAX
creative audigy soundcard 7.1 <- U dont need it, mobo onboard would do :lol:
5.1 Creaitve Inspre <- Rs. 3800/- :)

@Arvind

Whats the news at your place about the 650i ?? as XFX 650i is been called of from the market as i see... u still getting the board at ur local market ??

@vrslvrs
for 44k u will get better than dat......

@choto cheeta

v can still get XFX 650i here......old stocks from RP guys here....

Thanks :p

@vrslvrs

Intel 2.4 quad core 1066 fsb 8mb cache <- Rs. 10300/- + (4%) TAX
intel dg33fbc motherboard <- Out of question
XFX geforce card 512mb <- Whats the Model ??
2 gb ddr2 ram <- Whats the FSB ?? if 667 then Rs. 1800/- + TAX for single stick, and 850/- + TAX for 1 GB stick :)
250 GB SATA hardsik <- Whats the Buffer ?? if 16mb then Rs. 2600/- + TAX
lg dvd writer <- Interface ?? SATA or IDE ??
Mercury cabinet with smps <- Cabinet will do but u need a colorSit or powersafe or zebronics 500 watts :)
17" CRT LG monitor <- Rs. 4100/- + TAX
Logitech Keyboard Mouse If wired then Rs. 700/- + TAX
creative audigy soundcard 7.1 <- U dont need it, mobo onboard would do :lol:
5.1 Creaitve Inspre <- Rs. 3800/- :)

@Arvind

Whats the news at your place about the 650i ?? as XFX 650i is been called of from the market as i see... u still getting the board at ur local market ??
sorry i dont know anything about your questions :???: :cry:

Choto Cheeta
27-01-2008, 11:33 PM
sorry i dont know anything about your questions

the question is not directed towards you :)

vrslvrs
28-01-2008, 12:06 AM
@vrslvrs
for 44k u will get better than dat......
...

Ok then tell me the configuration which is worth for 44,000. I am from southindia. tamilnadu

j1n M@tt
28-01-2008, 12:10 AM
^^ I mean u will get better system as mentioned by others above in comparison with d system config u mentioned......

hellgate
28-01-2008, 12:26 AM
hey i'm thinking of dumping my Q6600 and getting a E8400.getting bout 9.5-10k for my quad.
so wat do u guys think sud i take the plunge.

vrslvrs
28-01-2008, 12:49 AM
^^ I mean u will get better system as mentioned by others above in comparison with d system config u mentioned......

can't understand :( friend.
Just list out a good configuration computer of your liking at a budget of 44,000

Choto Cheeta
28-01-2008, 01:02 AM
the 1st page is updated

Over the Month I see too many topic on same question but with little different budget, Need Help purchase new PC...

Though we have a dedicated thread on Hardware prices still people feel that their need is different from others so they creat one Dedicated thread, I would like to sum that up...

So, I would try to list some basic Configs, and will try to keep it up to date... I request all users please post or inform the latest price and hardware configs so that this thread can suggest best Config possible for a a certain price limmit....

Last update on 02-11-2007

Lets Go Low

Target PC within Rs. 15000/- + TAX

Buy a PC which makes sense in a budget as low as possible... This would be a PC for basic Office job, running basic office apps for accounting printing and stuff like that !!!! Will be running Windows XP with ease !!!

AMD X2 3600+ with MSI K9AGM2 (AMD 690V) @ Rs. 5000/- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1200/- + TAX
80 GB SATA @ Rs. 1600/- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
Cabby + Default SMPS ( 400 /450 watts) @ Rs. 1200/- + TAX
15" CRT LG / SAMSUNG@ Rs. 3700/- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 500/- + TAX
UPS Local Brand 1400/- + TAX


TAX Rs. 636/- (4% VAT) Kolkata
Total Rs. 16536/-

Target was Rs. 15k but cant go lower with todays Apps... it will be able to Run Vista with ease :)... if you are thinking for more use, then doo think of adding a GB RAM and may be a bigger HDD like 160 GB :) and off course a Rs. 1000/- 2.1 Creative skps system :)

Budget Gaming

Target Rs. 25000/-

This is a PC with Budget Gaming with onboard grfx, will run most of the games games in mid settings... once again one budget comes in mind its AMD which pops up... These are good configs for little home Video Editing, PhotoShop, Flash like stuff, will run under Vista quite cool...

AMD X2 4000+ @ Rs. 3000 /- + TAX
ASUS M2NPV VM (Nvidia 6150 chipset) @ Rs. 3800 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 2400 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 450 /500 watts) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
17" CRT LG / SAMSUNG @ Rs. 4300 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 500 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 972 /-
Total Rs. 25272 /-

Once again I failed to stay under that budget of Rs. 25k !!! as seemed this is what basic would be called !!! you may consider a Rs. 1000/- based 2.1 skp and change the procy to X2 4800 is poosible which is Rs. 4600/- + TAX...

Intel Counter Part

for those who likes the intel brand name and would do little OverClocking !!!

Intel Dual Core E2140 @ Rs. 2450 /- + TAX
ASUS P5B-VM / P5K-VM @ Rs. 7200 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 2400 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 450 /500 watts) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
17" CRT LG / SAMSUNG @ Rs. 4300 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 500 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
2.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 1000 /- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 982 /-
Total Rs. 25532 /-


If u notice the system is all most same just getting E2140 + P5B-VM / P5K-VM... Performance is more or less the same at Stock, but the New Core based Dual Core E2140/E2160 processors are highly overclockable...

To Fit the Intel Config u may have to consider 2.1 instead of 5.1...

Both onboard grfx are good enough to run most of the games in low settings, now I would say AMD 690G (ATi x1250) is better than X3000 GMA of Intel !!! though both will get around 3.0/3.1 (X3000) and 3.4 (ATi x1250 / Nvidia 6150) on Vista Performance Rating (Gaming grfx)...

P5B-VM is with G965 (x3000) Chipset / P5K-VM is with latest G33 (GMA x3100) chipset... the P5K-VM will replace the P5B-VM boarsds, so get which ever is cheaper and available at your place :)

Now as i said these are basic configs... So if one has some more money, can add up or modify the basic configs... Like 17" TFT @ Rs. 6900/- + TAX, for some more performance under vista and great gaming one can add XFX 8600 GT 256 MB Rs. 5500/- + TAX some gamin hardware like Joystick... which can be seen reflecting at the bellow Midrange configs...

Mid-Range Performer

Budget 35-40k

well as it sounds with better budget PC... Now Intel Can be think of, Good for some video editing, Pro PhotoShop job, or Flash / Multimedia apps... With intel some OverClocking for Performance boost :D

Intel E6550 @ Rs. 7000 /- + TAX
XFX 650i ultra @ Rs. 4600 /- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT GDDR3 256MB @ Rs. 5500 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 800 MHz Transend or Kingstone or ZION @ Rs. 2650 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16MB Buffer (Segate / SAMSUNG / WD) @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
A Large and wel ventilated Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 500 watts or more) @ Rs. 2200 /- + TAX
17" CRT LG / SAMSUNG @ Rs. 4300 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 500 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1426 /-
Total Rs. 37076 /-

Optionals are

View Sonic 17" TFT 7900/- + TAX
View Sonic 19" vg1930wm Rs. 9500/- + TAX
New 8800 GT 512 MB 14000/- + TAX

Here one may consider for OC, u would b need of Better PSU like Cooler Master 600 watts eXtreme which is Rs. 3500/- !!! One can allways spend some more to get Corsiar RAMs :D...

Price no Bar need some extreme Hardware

Refer to the section bellow "Performance Upgrad" with good budget !!!!

I Need the Beast :p

If u have insane budget for insane PC, consider Alienware or MAC Pro :p

Now just for the Dubba (CPU)

This is for those who is seeking upgrade who doesnt in need of Display / UPS / Spk system or Keyboard mouse...

Budget Upgrade

Budget under Rs. 15000/-

Good onboard grfx, will do home video editing, photoshop, flash of such multimidea apps, will be able to play most games in low settings !!!

AMD 4000 @ Rs. 3000 /- + TAX
ASUS M2N PV VM @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz Transend or Kingstone or ZION @ Rs. 2400 /- + TAX
160 GB SATA-II (Segate / SAMSUNG / WD) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Cabby + Default PSU (400 / 450 Watts) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 540 /-

Total Rs. 14040 /-


Not possible to provide one Intel Config in this budget :( but this is a PC good enough to do most job !!!

Some can modify this as with adding a GRFX Card like 8600 GT GDDR3 256 MB which Rs. 5500/- + TAX and a better PSU...

Gaming Upgrade

Budget under Rs. 20000/- or at Rs. 25000/-

I would say just add XFX 8600 GT 256MB Rs. 5500/- + TAX with a Rs. 850 or Rs. 1400 PSU as 450 or 500 watts ColorSit / PowerSafe / Zebronics with a better well ventilated Cabinet to the above config...

Mid Range Performance Upgrade

Budget 25k to 30k...

This is a performance upgarde for those who wants OverClocing for some performance Boost... and more or less good gaming as todays new games will need heavy grfx so even a card like 8600 will now fall befind....

Intel E6750 @ Rs. 7800 /- + TAX
XFX 650i ultra @ Rs. 4600 /- + TAX
8600 GT GDDR3 256MB @ Rs. 5500 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 800 MHz Transend or Kingstone or ZION @ Rs. 2650 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II (Segate / SAMSUNG / WD) @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Large and Welventilated Cabinet + 500 or more watts ColorSit / PowerSafe / Zebronics @ Rs. 2200 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1066 /-

Total Rs. 27716 /-

One AMD counter Part would be X2 6000 @ Rs. 7900/- + TAX with ASUS M2A-VM at Rs. 3200/- + TAX

with it, and with better budget one can add some more 2 GB 800 MHz RAM or New 8800 GT 512 MB Rs. 14k + TAX, or get Better 320GB SATA-II 16mb Bufer models or rs. 3200/- + TAX... but for those u will have to consider Rs. 3200/- Cooler Master 600 Watts eXtreme PSU

Performance Upgrade

Better budget over 35k

Now s the budget is not fix now I would just suggest proper products which are tested andfound to be good performer under all Category, either make you own configuration or you may post go through the thread and ask in the thread for your need...

Processor

Its all Intel Now... AMD at-least now 2 years behind Intel on their road map...

So for the system processors needs to be Core 2 Duo and with higher budget certainly the Core 2 Quadro...

Intel® Core™2 Extreme processor (http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2xe/specifications.htm)

Intel® Core™2 Quad processor (http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2quad.htm)

Intel® Core™2 Duo processor (http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm)

Price of the softwares can be as high as Rs. 65,000/- for the new QX9650 and as low as Rs. 4800/- + TAX for E4500 !!! Availibity is allways an issue, also price is chaning always so if u have question please refer to the last pages of this post to get upto date information and when you have any question feel free to ask in the thread memebrs will try and build a sonfiguaration with idle setup for u and ur needs ...

How ever the processors which you would eye at are E6750 (Rs. 7.2k) E6850 (Rs. 10k) or Q6600 (Rs. 11k)

Motherboard

Say no to Intel Original Boards apart from Intel 975 XBX !!! ASUS / XFX / Gigabyte / MSI are known for their performance boards....

Say no to all 945 chipsets and try and go for boards which comes without onboard GRFX...

Boards to look for,

ASUS board with NVIDIA nForce® 680i SLI™ (http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=397)

ASUS board with Intel P35 (http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534)

XFX NVIDIA nForce 680i (http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?series=NVIDIA+nForce+680i&seriesId=989302)

Availibity is allways an issue, not all models are available in India, also price is chaning always so if u have question please refer to the last pages of this post to get upto date information and when you have any question feel free to ask in the thread memebrs will try and build a sonfiguaration with idle setup for u and ur needs ...

Price of a certain board can go as high as Rs. 70,000/- :lol:

Note as par this update (date 02/11/2007) we still dont have any X38 / G35 board in India !!!!

How ever you may eye at ASUS P5K-C (8.5k), P5N32-E SLi Plus / XFX 680i SLi (11k) P5K-E or higher vaule the, ASUS P5K Deluxe WiFi/AP (15k), etc...

3rd Party processors cooler

under update !! Please check back later...

RAM

Transcend / Kingstone are known for Value but good RAMs, how ever there are Corsair ones like Rs. 14500/- for 2 GB (1x2) 1066 MHz DDR-2...

But the Transcend / Kingstone 800 MHz DDR2 which are Rs. 1350/- each would do your job fine !!!

Graphics Card

There are XFX, ASUS available widelly in India, look for their card as they are known to be good,

Nvidia 7900
Nvidia 7950
nvidia 8600
nvidia 8800

ATi x1900
ATi 2600
Ati 2900

are the cards to look for, they can range from Rs. 5500/- (XFX 8600 GT GDDR3 256 MB) to as high as Rs. 70k when you run under SLI or CrossFire :lol:

Note for some reasons in Local Indian market we dont get to see ATi Products :( a lot

How ever Cards to look for XFX 8600 GT GDDR3 (5.5), the new XFX 8800 GT 512MB Rs. 14000/- + TAX...

Availibity is allways an issue, not all models are available in India, also price is chaning always so if u have question please refer to the last pages of this post to get upto date information and when you have any question feel free to ask in the thread memebrs will try and build a sonfiguaration with idle setup for u and ur needs ...

HDD

Not much to comment !! usually SATA-II 16mb buffer drives would be fine, buy few of them if you need higher storegae, but buy from a company which has a near buy service center !!!

DVD RW

Once again not much to comment !! May be SATA interface if budget permits !!!

Cabinet

Once again only few things i would comment, design ?? chose your one !! type ?? should be large and well ventilated with few cabinet fan slot to pull and push air out and in !!! People will prefer branded ones ... personally I prefer non branded ones as theyyy are chip whcih allows me to buy better PSU

PSU

If you are having a higher config then think of Cooler Master 600 watts (http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&tbcate=22&id=51) is at Rs. 3500/- Kolkata... of the config is little low on power requirement and not some extreme OC, then 500 or more watts ColorSit / PowerSafe / Zebronics would do good... which are usually Rs. 1500/- around !!!

How ever I would always say try for a better PSU if u have the budget for it..

when you have any question feel free to ask in the thread memebrs would try and build a configuaration with idle setup for u and ur needs ...

Display Optional

If you need then consider TFTs now days, refer to Media Center PC format for display options !!!

__________________________Media Center_____________________

Media Center PCs

Purpose, Simply entertainment movies and music and some gaming

Budget

Rs. 35k or lower for entertainment movies and music.... and higher Rs. 60k for some heavy gaming + entertainment movies and music...

AMD X2 4800+ @ Rs. 4650 /- + TAX
ASUS M2NPV VM @ Rs. 3750 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 2400 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16MB Buffer @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Pinnacle TV Tuner Kit for Vista with Remote @ Rs. 2100 /- + TAX
Cabby + ColorSit / Power Safe / Zebronics SMPS ( 450 /500 watts) @ Rs. 2000 /- + TAX
19" View Sonic vg1930wm (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcddisplays/graphicseries/vg1930wm/) WideScreen TFT @ Rs. 9500 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 500 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1352 /-

Total 35152 /-

The AMD X2 4800 is more than enough for HD 1080p movies, so as the nvidia 6150 grfx which would come with the setup... 6150 will run vg1930wm at 1440x900 resolution without any issue... fully vista compatible... How ever system is not ment for Gaming, if you want gaming, Change the MOBO to MSI K9AGM2 which is Rs. 2450/- and add 8600 GT which is Rs. 5500/- + TAX or if u are pro gamer then may be a 8800 GT Rs 14k + TAX...

the 60k config...

Intel E6550 @ Rs. 7000 /- + TAX
XFX 650i ultra @ Rs. 4600 /- + TAX
XFX 8800 GT 512 MB @ Rs. 14000 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 800 MHz @ Rs. 2650 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16MB Buffer @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Pinnacle TV Tuner Kit for Vista with Remote @ Rs. 2100 /- + TAX
Cooler Master 600 Watts eXtreme (http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&tbcate=22&id=51) @ Rs. 3200 /- + TAX
A good looking but welventilated Cabinet @ Rs. 1500 /- + TAX
22" Dell E22WFP WideScreen TFT @ Rs. 13000 /- + TAX
Microsoft Keyboard Mouse @ Rs. 650 /- + TAX
APC 650 VA / Microtek Double Battery @ Rs. 2650 /- + TAX
5.1 Creaitve Inspre @ Rs. 3600 /- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 2354 /-

Total 61204 /-


This one is ment for heavy gaming with entertainment !!! its allways advisable to buy a separate Sound Card as that will really boost the sound quality !!!

This will play any game at good and high resolution with highest off settings, good movies with Large 22" TFT display...

Peope I am open for suggestion here, not so good on LCDs so please suggest some 17" models and some more budget 22"


__________________________END Media Center_____________________


For all Torrent Lovers... System For Dedicated download

Now this system will run 24x7, it has to be a power saver too...

AMD Sempron 3200+ AM2 @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
BIOSTAR / ASUS / MSI (K9MM-V) VIA Chipset based board supporting 4 SATA @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
250x2 SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 5200 /- + TAX
Cabinet + SMPS (Default 450 watts) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
2 Port KVM Switch (Tech Com) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 514/-
Total Rs. 13364/-

Here you dont need Input devices or VDU, as its a second system so KVM switch will take care of that :)... This system will run Windows XP or a Linux distro (which ever you prefer) with torrent clients like uTorrent or or fav :)... Note its a second system for those who use a high performance over clocked power hungry system for their main use... You may follow this guide to set up a simple lan and share the net connection between ur main system and this seeder box (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54225) :D

For those who wondering What is a KVM Switch ?? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch)...

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Please note all TAX is at 4% in Kolkata, so price and tax will vary from Location to location... this is just one basic guide, one has to him self study the local market to get the best Possible deal...

I request memmebers to post ur view on the configs and please let me know how can be better config be offered with other differenet Hardware in that price range...


please if possible keep the thread updated with relevant price information and Newlly launched Hardware which can be fit in to these Configs...

Few Links of the product I wrote...

Intel Processor Numbers : http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm
AMD Processor Number Details : http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041%5E13076,00.html
ASUS M2A-VM : http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1568&l1=3&l2=101&l3=496
ASUS P5B-VM : http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=332&model=1312&modelmenu=1
XFX 650i Ultra : http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?series=NVIDIA+nForce+650i&seriesId=989307&productId=989811
XFX 8600 GT 256 MB : http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?series=GeForce%26trade%3B+ 8600&seriesId=1054321&productId=1054324
ASUS P5K3 Premium http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1729&modelmenu=2
ASUS P5N-E SLi http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=473&l4=0&model=1474&modelmenu=2
ASUS P5N32-E SLi http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=397&l4=0&model=1459&modelmenu=2
ASUS P965 Chipset based boards for P5B DLX http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=307


For more Price information one can Visit Sticky thread : http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3584

To find out where u can get ur product in India : http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8673

Web Sites which I feel go very close to local Market Price is http://www.theitwares.com (Memmbers please post few more reliable Price info Sites), One more http://www.freewebs.com/abdulmustak/mumbaipricelist.htm and http://www.deltapage.com/

One may feel that I pressed on to AMD a lot, Why ?? Really Intel C2D beats AMD any day, but when making one full config keeping in the Price its MAD which comes as value for money, yes when u have money to aford one Intel Config, all way press on it...

Thank you...

j1n M@tt
28-01-2008, 08:21 AM
@choto Cheeta

gud work man........http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/113.gif

Can I push in???........Its better if u suggest Creative 5.1 T6060 instead of Inspire, T6060 is just 100 bucks away from Inspire and performs far betterhttp://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/67.gif

And there is one budget overclocker from AMD........X2 5000 Black Edition+ Asus M2N-E.

s18000rpm
28-01-2008, 10:15 AM
^^ If u r wating for 9600gt, then wait for x48 too.....for the time being take a Abit IP35-E....its a quite gud moboGet a cheap p35 now. save cash and get a x48 directly wen it launches. and do wait for the 9x00 series.

@s18000rpm

ABiT IP35 Pro (http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=IP35+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775) should come well under your budget :)

its P35 board :) but hell of a over clocker and net is flowded with positive reviews :)

the question is, is ABit newbie friendly OC'r? :))

can you mention a good overclockin p35 m/b?

& when's x48 launching?

Choto Cheeta
28-01-2008, 11:05 AM
the question is, is ABit newbie friendly OC'r?

Idea of Over Clocking is really simple... Increase the FSB or BUS speed without touching the vCore (more Bus / FSB means processor may need more power thus at some point one needs to increase the vCore)... as more vCore means a lot of heat...

So the interface may be different with ur board and my boards BIOS, but the work which u have to do is same... :)

can you mention a good overclockin p35 m/b?

ABiT IP35-Pro is one of the best in business :), just one suggestion, its Rs. 9200 + TAX...

Get it from India :D because of the after sales suppport :)

MetalheadGautham
28-01-2008, 11:15 AM
Cheapest Quad Core

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ Rs. 10500 /- + TAX
XFX 630i (7150) (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2008/01/20/quick-look-review-at-xfx-630i-7150-motherboard-for-a-budget-yes-performance-quad-core-system/) @ Rs. 3450 /- + TAX
2 GB single Stick 667 MHz @ Rs. 1800 /- + TAX
80 GB SATA @ Rs. 1625 /- + TAX
Any Cabinet + 450 watts SMPS @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
Local Keyboard + Mouse @ Rs. 500 /- + TAX
17" CRT LG @ Rs. 4100 /- + TAX
UPS local brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
Creative 2.1 @ Rs. 1000 /- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1023 /-
Total Rs. 26598 /-
For What Joy ? :lol:

Choto Cheeta
28-01-2008, 11:17 AM
For What Joy ?

Lot of poeple needs to buy PC for gifting purpose, where the brand name matters... :)

hellgate
28-01-2008, 11:27 AM
^^^ hey choto sud i dump my Q6600 for a E8400???also is E8400 available in India??

Choto Cheeta
28-01-2008, 12:51 PM
^^^ hey choto sud i dump my Q6600 for a E8400???also is E8400 available in India??

Wait... E8400 or E8500 is a core 2 duo range :) where as same price you may get your self a Q9300 or 2.5k extra for Q9450... that too when the Q9450 comes to the mainstream it should replace the Q6600 where as Q9300 would act as a budget Quad Core :)

so if you are a overclocker and gamer, then E8400 :D if over all performance :D then Q9450 :D

Now availibility :( cant say, Kolkata local market has no clue about the new 45nm :lol: all they know is E4xxx series are damn cheap :lol: but it should not take much time...

if you are need of a system go for the total system with E2140 :p replace that E2140 after 6 month with meainstream 45nm :D as by then it would be common in market so the price also would lower than what it would be at the time of launch :)

manishjha18
28-01-2008, 12:53 PM
thanks cheeta-hope u wd update regularly the ist page-
i wd have to simply open 1 st page and tell the config to my friends--ha ha i am popular among them

hellgate
28-01-2008, 01:09 PM
so if you are a overclocker and gamer, then E8400 :D if over all performance :D then Q9450 :D

if you are need of a system go for the total system with E2140 :p replace that E2140 after 6 month with meainstream 45nm :D as by then it would be common in market so the price also would lower than what it would be at the time of launch :)

yup i'm a oc'r and a gamer.rarely do i rip any dvds or do photoshoping.most of the time i surf,game,watch tv,read e-books etc.i'm also getting a lappy.

as of now i've the following config:
Q6600 @ 3GHz
borrowed mobo from frnd
3*1GB DDR2 667 @ 833MHz
8800GT 320MB
1TB storage

now i'll be upgradinmg to Nehalem once it hits the market.and i'm xpecting it to come within 6-9months.

so plz suggest accordingly....

Choto Cheeta
28-01-2008, 01:14 PM
now i'll be upgradinmg to Nehalem once it hits the market.and i'm xpecting it to come within 6-9months.

so plz suggest accordingly....

It wont do :( as per as Intel, Nehalem (32nm) is expected to roll with new socket architecture :( LGA 1366 for Server range XEON and LGA 1066 or LGA 705 for Desktop range...

though its not yet finalized which socket the desktop may come, wether like their previous setup for single socket for all range thus LGA 1366 or different for XEON / Desktop but its almost certain that 45nm is the last batch of LGA 775 :(

hellgate
28-01-2008, 01:18 PM
It wont do :( as per as Intel, Nehalem (32nm) is expected to roll with new socket architecture :( LGA 1366 for Server range XEON and LGA 1066 or LGA 705 for Desktop range...

though its not yet final