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Pathik
02-11-2007, 01:45 PM
@aravind and choto is the msi k9ngm3 available anywhere in ur area?? rate??
and how is this integrated solution???
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D201GLY/index.htm
Charan
03-11-2007, 01:04 AM
Can any one please update me on the latest prices of E6750 and XFX 650i
janitha
03-11-2007, 07:47 AM
Can any one please update me on the latest prices of E6750 and XFX 650i
But there seems to be many people facing problems with XFX 650i.
cyberzook
03-11-2007, 09:00 AM
Can any one please update me on the latest prices of E6750 and XFX 650i
6750 - 7850
650i - 4800
last saturday prices kolkata
tym_s_precs
03-11-2007, 04:37 PM
@choto
dude amd is going to launch its quad core phenom processors this month,so if somone bys an am2 based sys today,woudnt he b stuck with it?I know that the prosrs are going to be backward compatible,but you buy a sports car to run it at full throttle,right?:confused:
there are socket am2+ mobos already in the market with biostar and asus,why dont you suggest them?:confused:
and besides and is not 2 years behind,they are more than 2 years behind intel...why? look et the names of the archtecture itself...from k8 they jumped straight to k10 now...intel has been giving amd a hard time,and I dont see value in choosing an amd based sys at this point of time.grab a oc mobo and 2140,you can out do all amd anyday for six months.....
and regarding tft panels.... acer is a cheao altrnativ to view sonic....you get a 17" wide acer diaplay at 7500,which I think is a better buy than 17" 4x3 viewsonic.:D
but any way you have done an excellant job by putting in place the first post in this thred,now just keep it updated:!:
one more thing... for latest prices you can also log on to http://priceguru.in
regards,
tym_s_precs:D
Choto Cheeta
03-11-2007, 05:39 PM
@pathiks
MSI K9AGM3 is Rs. 3500 quoted over telephone :p so available but not sure of the prices....
Intel D201 are SiS based option, as for office use it was fine with Intel Pentium HT the 6x1 processors and Intel Pentium D... how ever as u know without OC, not good when u consider E2140 and C2Ds :(
@tym_s_precs
there are socket am2+ mobos already in the market with biostar and asus,why dont you suggest them?
Socket AM2+ is a mid migration from Socket AM2 to Socket AM3 and is fully compatible with Socket AM2, so processors designed for Socket AM2 will work on Socket AM2+ motherboards and vice versa.
and besides and is not 2 years behind,they are more than 2 years behind intel...why? look et the names of the archtecture itself...from k8 they jumped straight to k10 now...intel has been giving amd a hard time,and I dont see value in choosing an amd based sys at this point of time.grab a oc mobo and 2140,you can out do all amd anyday for six months.....
Not all would like to OC... but then again we have our personal opinion :D so its neither up to me or u to actually force some one to buy some thing...
Point noted, I would try to provide a Intel based counter part for certain category...
now problem is, under Intel E2140 is certainly a great processor, how ever te board or rather the cheapest board that comes to the mind is XFX 650i + XFX 8400 GS, now same performance can b obtained from X2 4000 + M2NPV-VM or M2A VM / MSI K9AGM3
mind you in case of AMD 4000, that too is a hell of a OverClocker so performance jump can be expected from that one too...
I would request, stick around, and please provide your views with a full config a prices, when some one would request a certain budget system !!!
and regarding tft panels.... acer is a cheao altrnativ to view sonic....you get a 17" wide acer diaplay at 7500,which I think is a better buy than 17" 4x3 viewsonic.
Detailed information would be really helpfull, please provide some with price and source of the price too :D
but any way you have done an excellant job by putting in place the first post in this thred,now just keep it updated
Thnx or the comment !! :D
naveen_reloaded
03-11-2007, 07:01 PM
@ chota..
first of all u did a splendid job in the first post..
now it lokks neat and tidy ...
very well done ..
u are the "ONE" (perfect avatar to denote u ) :-D
please do update it regularly ...
and also please do put up a big title at the start of the first post denoting when itwas updated...
anyway well done
blackpearl
03-11-2007, 09:01 PM
DVD Writer Query
Which DVD writer manufacturers provide DVD RW with the SATA interface, apart from ASUS? Are Sony and Liteon DVD RW drives available with SATA interface?
sachin_kothari
03-11-2007, 09:51 PM
@blackpearl
Here is a review of Sony (http://www.hardware.info/en-US/articles/am9nZWpvZA/Sony_AWG170A_DVDwriter_review/) and Liteon (http://www.overclockersonline.net/index.php?page=articles&num=911) SATA DVD Writer.
Charan
03-11-2007, 11:58 PM
But there seems to be many people facing problems with XFX 650i.
Thanks I will recheck about this mobo :)
6750 - 7850
650i - 4800
last saturday prices kolkata
Thanks for the prices :)
Choto Cheeta
04-11-2007, 12:38 AM
and also please do put up a big title at the start of the first post denoting when itwas updated...
Done !!! :)
naveen_reloaded
04-11-2007, 08:33 AM
now its perfect ... thnks chota....
sonu1983
04-11-2007, 05:31 PM
guys need litle help..upgradin comp..need prices and suggestions..
AMD 4800+
biostar A690G
160gb seagate sata
lite on dvd writer
2gb 667 trans ram
8600GT OC card.
now am confused with the cabinet..i need to buy a different PSU right..so wat do i go for..i have no idea..how much would a cabinet + PSU cost me..plz teme tat..i dont need an expensive PSU..so 400W would do :D..thanks in advance..waitin for ur replies
Choto Cheeta
04-11-2007, 07:06 PM
@sonu1983
Try and change from BIOSTAR A690G to MSI K9AGM2 (2450/-) or the new MSI K9AGM3...
There are just 200 Rs. differnce between a 800 MHz and 667 MHz 1 GB stick...
Cooler Master eXtreme 600 watts would cost you Rs. 3200/- + TAX
PowerSafe / ColorSit / Zebronics 500 Watts would be around Rs. 1500/- (more or less)
In Kolkata with a large local cabinet is Rs. 800 - 850/- a smaller compact one s 700-750/-... usually with a Large cabinet + 500 Wattts Zebronics / PowerSafe / ColorSit costs around Rs. 2000/- to 2200/- :)
Harvik780
04-11-2007, 08:19 PM
@Choto can you suggest me a VGA cooler(i'll buy two) that i can mount on each of my XFX 8600GT.
dOm1naTOr
04-11-2007, 08:49 PM
MSI K9A GM2 has only two mem slots and the chipset heatsink is very small. Its a very cheap and thereby low quality mobo for budget conscious people who want 690G mobo.
And as chotto said, goin for 800Mhz mem makes more sense and ull get better performance in games.
@sonu1983
I wud suggest u to go for ASUS M2A VM. It has gud features and fairly decent price fo 3.2k. It has ample choice for overclocking too.
M2A VM HDMI costs more!
For better future proof for upgradibility and overclocking, ull need at least a 500W gud PSU.
A choice will be Zebronics 500W Platinum for 1.8k. Its gud nd stable enuf compared with other gud 500W PSU[but higher prices].
upendra_gp
04-11-2007, 09:08 PM
Please ChotoCheeta suggest me a CPU upgrade(dubba upgrade). I have a budget of 20-25k.
I am going ro use it for mpeg 4 encoding ,watching HD movies ,Gaming etc.
I want
160 GB HDD
2 GB RAM
Choto Cheeta
04-11-2007, 10:03 PM
@upendra_gp
Do you have any DVD RW from the older config of urs as if yes, you can fit this bellow config...
Intel C2D E6750 @ Rs. 7800 /- + TAX
XFX 650i Ultra @ Rs. 4600 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 800 MHz @ Rs. 2650 /- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT GDDR3 256MB @ Rs. 5500 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16mb Buffer @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
Large Welventilated Cabinet with ColorSit / PowerSafe / Zebronics 500 watts @ Rs. 2200 /- + TAX
TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 1014 /-
Total 26364 /-
Now please make your mind, if its a over all system system then yeah 8600 GT is one least product to get... it will allow decent gaming under that budget....
now if it has to be a full time gaming system then you have to think of AMD X2 range system with 8800 GT which is Rs. 14000/- !!!
now if u will primarilly enocde with softwae like adobe premire pro, u will need more ram, 2 GB wont be enough when doing full time Encoding and video editing !!!
@Harvik780
I dont have any huge idea of the GPU cooling section... for my need :p I cut a whole in the caby :p fit a 120mm external powered FAN :lol: to do my job :lol: but yeah, having said that, I have heard good things about, ThermalRight HR 03 / HR 03 Plus (http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_hr03_plus.htm) but then again I have dbout that it wont work with 8600 GT...
so, read here also,
There are countless after-market VGA coolers available today and many of them fail to provide any improvements over the standard coolers, serving more purpose as decorations rather than real cooling solutions.
source (http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardware/gpu_cooler_roundup/gpu_cooling-2.shtml)
So may be ThermalRight V-1 Ultra (http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_v1ultra.htm) would fit in to the 8600 :)
bikdel
04-11-2007, 10:27 PM
hey guys can you help me for this??
i want the configuration for an INTEL budget gaming PC... with monitor...
in 30 k max.. any ideas?... will i be able to stick in a 8800 GT?
heres what i wont need : UPS, Keyboard, Mouse, Cabinet, PSU, Sound System, Xtra Sound Card
I will need a Will-Do Joypad with Force Feedback...
I have a cheapo 6200 tc with me and am ready to use for a month or two if GFX card prices are about to fall..
I wont go for AMD as availability is a question here... please do not enquire more on this..
it should be strictly Intel... :))
keith_j_snyder2
04-11-2007, 10:30 PM
Dear Choto Cheeta.....is the 8800 GT is available for 14K or the price u have mentioned is with X2 processor?
Choto Cheeta
04-11-2007, 10:47 PM
@keith_j_snyder2
The Price of 8800 GT is around Rs. 14000/- + TAX in Kolkata... I have not yet bargained my self, its quoted over telephone !!!!
keith_j_snyder2
04-11-2007, 10:54 PM
Check whether any other brand apart from XFX is available and for lesser price and oh..i bet bargain won't be a kill!
upendra_gp
05-11-2007, 09:15 AM
Thanks ChotoCheeta!
Harvik780
05-11-2007, 09:17 AM
@Choto V1 ultra won't fit on an 8600GT.
dantool
05-11-2007, 02:12 PM
can i put ddr2 with preexisting ddr1?
Choto Cheeta
05-11-2007, 02:40 PM
can i put ddr2 with preexisting ddr1?
NO... you cant !!! :(
dantool
05-11-2007, 02:46 PM
NO... you cant !!! :(
oh...if i put would that stop working?
i've got 512 ddr and want to upgrade to 1 GB.
Choto Cheeta
05-11-2007, 02:59 PM
oh...if i put would that stop working?
i've got 512 ddr and want to upgrade to 1 GB.
you cant fit in a DDR2 RAM in a DDR1 slot...
DDR-I is a 184 pin slot where as DDR-II is 240 pin slot, so u cnt fit a DDR1 ram in DDR-II slot or vice versa...
even if you try :p iether it will damage the motherboard or the RAM...
thnx...
Pathik
05-11-2007, 03:25 PM
oh...if i put would that stop working?
i've got 512 ddr and want to upgrade to 1 GB.
it wont even fit in.. unless u break it..
hey guys can you help me for this??
i want the configuration for an INTEL budget gaming PC... with monitor...
in 30 k max.. any ideas?... will i be able to stick in a 8800 GT?
heres what i wont need : UPS, Keyboard, Mouse, Cabinet, PSU, Sound System, Xtra Sound Card
I will need a Will-Do Joypad with Force Feedback...
I have a cheapo 6200 tc with me and am ready to use for a month or two if GFX card prices are about to fall..
I wont go for AMD as availability is a question here... please do not enquire more on this..
it should be strictly Intel... :))
Maybe.. try to get the 8800gt for 13k.. then get a xfx 650i ultra + a e6750 for 12.4k..and get 2*1gb ddr2 800mhz ram for 2.4k and a 250gb sata2 for 2.6k.. 30.5k..
blackpearl
05-11-2007, 03:59 PM
@blackpearl
Here is a review of Sony (http://www.hardware.info/en-US/articles/am9nZWpvZA/Sony_AWG170A_DVDwriter_review/) and Liteon (http://www.overclockersonline.net/index.php?page=articles&num=911) SATA DVD Writer.
Thanks. :)
sonu1983
05-11-2007, 04:13 PM
thanks @chota cheeta and @aravind..
hmm i think i will go for the asus motherboard..sounds beter..but does it have a beter sound output.
bikdel
05-11-2007, 04:19 PM
it wont even fit in.. unless u break it..
Maybe.. try to get the 8800gt for 13k.. then get a xfx 650i ultra + a e6750 for 12.4k..and get 2*1gb ddr2 800mhz ram for 2.4k and a 250gb sata2 for 2.6k.. 30.5k..
no monitor ryt?... i guess the mudget should increase to 40 K with monitor.....
ACTUALLY i was talking of BUDGET gaming PC in 30 k ... not all bells-and-whistles gaming PC.. :-P
~It_is_Andrew~
05-11-2007, 08:48 PM
I am planning on a pc upgrade....
Current config: Currently I have an pretty basic machine, more than 4 years old & passed through many excruciating tortures.......
P4 1.7GHz
Mercury mobo - KOB P4M266 NDFSMx
512(256x2) MB SDRAM
40GB Samsung HDD
SAMTRON 14" Monitor
DVDROM,CD-WRT,DVD-WRT etc
Budget: My ideal budget is around 12K, willing to go up to 16K - not really eager to go more than that but may need to......
Usages: Nowadays mainly for lots of surfing, downloading, little level of mutimedia editing but lots of heavy IDE's running, occasional gaming - hopefully newer games etc....
Expected really long uptimes & dusty environment.
Planning on upgrading Processor,MOBO,RAM & HDD, cabinet viz. SMPS
Probably no separate Graphics card for budget constraints.
Few points: :
* I know currently intel core2duo is recommended than amd series but i don't think i can go for any decent core2duo processor with considerable performance at that budget - unless someone specifies otherwise (considering I don't a bottleneck with low grade mobo/ram)
from last months digit's comparison maybe asus m2a vm & amd athlon 64 x2 5600?
* For HDD I'm thinking about 250GB 7200 rpm seagate.
* For RAM I'm thinking about 2GB DDR2 800MHz
So should i upgrade now? I dont want to stress more on the old one as I'm afraid it might pass out any month ,
Fellow digit members Please suggest me few configurations with approx prices, Please point out whats best for this situation than what I'm planning on....:)
Regards,
~It_is_Andrew~
keith_j_snyder2
05-11-2007, 10:33 PM
^^^ Homie....if it is budget PC then it gotta be none other than AMD....no point of buying INTEL low end pross.
If u still wanna know something then check out the first page of this thread....which is updated every second!
dantool
06-11-2007, 12:05 AM
thanx choto cheetah
Choto Cheeta
06-11-2007, 01:07 AM
@~It_is_Andrew~
Rs. 16k for the CPU
You can use these bellow parts from you previous config...
SAMTRON 14" Monitor
DVDROM,CD-WRT,DVD-WRT
Old Cabinet
Aslo for that 40 GB, take a look at this (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2007/10/21/convert-an-internal-pata-ide-desktop-35-hard-disk-to-external-usb-hard-disk/)
AMD X2 5000 @ Rs. 4900 /- + TAX
M2A-VM @ Rs. 3200 /- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz Transcend / Kingstone @ Rs. 2450 /- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16mb buffer @ Rs. 2600 /- + TAX
ColorSit 450 Watts @ Rs. 570 /- + TAX
TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 548.8 /-
Total Rs. 14268.8 /-
BULLZI
06-11-2007, 02:24 PM
@choto
is it really true??!! 8800 GT for 14 K + tax?? thts a steal.
8800GTS was priced at 21K when launched in India.
now one can get 8800GTX performance in such a low price.
plz can u give me the contact no./ address of ur dealer?
and also i wanna sell my previous card. ny shop info where i can get my card to be sold? and also how much shud i expect for the card (7900 GT)?
Harvik780
06-11-2007, 05:34 PM
Is it the 8800GT 256MB model which costs 14K.
~It_is_Andrew~
06-11-2007, 09:47 PM
@Choto Cheeta
Thanks for the reply :)
I will keep the old cpu as it is so I'll also have to buy a cabinet.
I still have a few confusion.......
1)If I want to improve on the processor which is the best option for me from AMD X2 5000 to 5600 from value & performace pov. (5600 is the lowest one is that series with 2mb L2 cache i guess?)
2)The M2A VM is good or is there any other better option available for minimal increase of budget?
3) Whats the price of 2GB DDR2 800 Mhz these days?
4) Is colorsit good? I heard different opinions. I do attach lots of usb peripherals.
if i go for higher processor up to 5600 will the 450 watts be enough?
( As i never used the newer sata devices, whats with the issue of 'availability of sata cable in smps'?? )
lots of silly questions maybe.........
Thanx again.....
upendra_gp
06-11-2007, 11:39 PM
Choto u suggested me this config
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=651678&postcount=1018
For some reason there is change in the budget so I want you to fit it in 20k keeping 2GB RAM,160GB HDD .
I was thinking of getting an AMD 5000+(Black edition) or 6000+ board-proccy combo. What do you think of this? And I have old DVD-Writer.
And i will be ripping my entire dvd collection on a harddisk using x264.I will be doing DVD ripping in short with x264. And I will be playing games like Crysis etc.
Thanks in advance!
keith_j_snyder2
07-11-2007, 02:03 AM
Dear friend...for playing crisis....woooooffff!
Even 8800 GTS 320 MB is also crying.....and its just demo....haven't seen the full version but this will give an idea of almost 95% about what exactly the game will be!
U can easily run on lower settings but that will not be fun enough!
My suggestion is to get an 8800 GT to play crisis!
BULLZI
07-11-2007, 11:05 AM
u didnt reply to me choto :(.
bassam904
07-11-2007, 03:00 PM
hey cheetah i saw u hve mentioned m2a vm in mid range performer in just c.p.u part and m2apv vm in budget gaming
does this mean m2a vm is some how better than m2apv vm
juggler
07-11-2007, 04:51 PM
Any motherboard with descent onboard graphics available for Intel platform in less tha 6000 Rs???
~It_is_Andrew~
07-11-2007, 09:20 PM
I still have a few confusion.......
1)If I want to improve on the processor which is the best option for me from AMD X2 5000 to 5600 from value & performace pov. (5600 is the lowest one is that series with 2mb L2 cache i guess?)
2)The M2A VM is good or is there any other better option available for minimal increase of budget?
3) Whats the price of 2GB DDR2 800 Mhz these days?
4) Is colorsit good? I heard different opinions. I do attach lots of usb peripherals.
if i go for higher processor up to 5600 will the 450 watts be enough?
( As i never used the newer sata devices, whats with the issue of 'availability of sata cable in smps'?? )
lots of silly questions maybe.........
Thanx again.....
come on people... please reply! :)
Pathik
07-11-2007, 09:30 PM
Any motherboard with descent onboard graphics available for Intel platform in less tha 6000 Rs??? Asus P5K Vm
shyamno
07-11-2007, 09:35 PM
Any board currently supporting PCI-Ex 2.0 for intel platform...???
Pathik
07-11-2007, 09:39 PM
1. yup go for the 5600+
2. The m2a vm is a good vfm board
3. 2.8k..
4. No idea
keith_j_snyder2
07-11-2007, 10:50 PM
Any board currently supporting PCI-Ex 2.0 for intel platform...???
Asus P5E X38
shyamno
08-11-2007, 07:33 AM
Asus P5E X38
Can u tell me the price...
BULLZI
08-11-2007, 11:42 AM
noone bothers to answer me :(.
upendra_gp
08-11-2007, 12:35 PM
noone bothers to answer me :(.
I would have reaaly loved to answer you but I really don't know buddy! At my place one can get 8600GT for 9k :(!
Pathik
08-11-2007, 02:43 PM
Any board currently supporting PCI-Ex 2.0 for intel platform...???
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=572
juggler
08-11-2007, 02:48 PM
Asus P5K Vm
its costing around 8500 Rs :((
Pathik
08-11-2007, 02:51 PM
then get the intel dg33bu .. but its not as good..
keith_j_snyder2
08-11-2007, 11:43 PM
Check the first page of this thread!
lnkrishnan
09-11-2007, 09:25 AM
Folks,
I know this is probably a wrong forum to post my question for information, but hoping for some luck here...
I had assembled an AMD Athlon 3200+ based system 2 years back. At that time, I had bought the ASUS A7N8X VM/400 motherboard, and had gone in for a XFX GeForce 6600GT AGP based graphics card.
Recently, the motherboard stopped working when used in conjunction with the graphics card - the AGP slot stopped working properly; when I try connecting the AGP graphics card, the display does not come. The hardware technician said that the motherboard had gone bad and that a new motherboard needed to be bought.
So, I am on the lookout for an AGP based motherboard, which can take my AMD Athlon 3200+ processor, and preferably has SATA / SATA2 connectors so that I go in for SATA based hard-disks (that my HDDs also conked off is a different story).
Will anyone be able to advise me on what model motherboards I can go in for? Your help / suggestions are greatly appreciated...
a_k_s_h_a_y
09-11-2007, 03:12 PM
guys i wanted a 30k Intel Media PC.. please help out with 19 inch LCD
arun_chennai
09-11-2007, 07:48 PM
Any motherboard with descent onboard graphics available for Intel platform in less tha 6000 Rs???
Biostar 7050 for 3300rs....very good Graphics & a great VFM.....It also supports Penryn....but the only downside is it doesnt support DUAL CHANNEL RAM.....for 3.3k it is the best...:D
guys i wanted a 30k Intel Media PC.. please help out with 19 inch LCD
This is the beat possible config for a edia center PC
CPU -E4500 2.2ghz -04800
MB -Biostar P35 -04200
Graphics -8400GS -02400
HDD -Seagate (250GB SATA) -02600
RAM -Kingston 1024 X 2 (667 Mhz) -01900
Moniter -Viewsonic 1930 -09100
Cabinet -Zebronics Bijili -01500
KB & Mouse -Any -00500
DVD -Sony -01200
TV Tuner -Pinnacle PC TV PCI -02400
Speaker -Altec Lansing 5.1 -03400
================================================== ==
Total -34000
================================================== ==
A great HTPC...
U can overclock this baby to atleast 3GHZ.....
then get the intel dg33bu .. but its not as good..
Absolutely true....G965 uses a better graphics...
a_k_s_h_a_y
09-11-2007, 10:35 PM
^^ thanks man.. but that's PC was for a computer newb my dad's friend's son
i will suggest the same.. with a better procy !! and save on cabinet and speakers
they also wanted table iin 30k. lets see
Pathik
09-11-2007, 10:45 PM
^^ change the 8400 gs to a 8600gt.. ur friend ll thank u in the future..
save on the proccy if u want to.. get a e2140 and oc it..
janitha
09-11-2007, 11:05 PM
^^ change the 8400 gs to a 8600gt.. ur friend ll thank u in the future..
save on the proccy if u want to.. get a e2140 and oc it..
Is it advisable to O/C a media centre PC? Noise?
arun_chennai
10-11-2007, 11:33 AM
^^ change the 8400 gs to a 8600gt.. ur friend ll thank u in the future..
save on the proccy if u want to.. get a e2140 and oc it..
As he is going to use it as Media PC i advised him to get 8400...for gaming it is not good...:D
^^ thanks man.. but that's PC was for a computer newb my dad's friend's son
i will suggest the same.. with a better procy !! and save on cabinet and speakers
they also wanted table iin 30k. lets see
CPU -E6750 2.66ghz -07800
MB -Biostar 7050-03200
Graphics -Integrated
HDD -Seagate (250GB SATA) -02600
RAM -Transcend 1024 X 2 (667 Mhz) -01900
Moniter -Viewsonic 1930wm -09100
Cabinet -Zebronics Normal -01000
KB & Mouse -Any -00500
DVD -Sony -01200
TV Tuner -Pinnacle PC TV PCI -02400
Speaker -Altec Lansing Basic 2.1 -01000
=======================================
Total -30200
=======================================
No need to overclock this system at all....if u wish u may slightly overclock also.....:D:D:D
~It_is_Andrew~
10-11-2007, 05:45 PM
is amd x2 5000+ black edition available in india yet? or might be available in recent future?
upendra_gp
10-11-2007, 05:56 PM
is amd x2 5000+ black edition available in india yet? or might be available in recent future?
I was too going to ask that! btw I asked my computerwallah and got a negative reply that it is ot available here. Though belief is a concern 'cause the same guy quoted 8600GT's price 9.1k!
manishjha18
11-11-2007, 12:03 AM
hey arun isn't Biostar TF7050-M2 is for AMD platform--
arun_chennai
11-11-2007, 01:35 AM
hey arun isn't Biostar TF7050-M2 is for AMD platform--
Yes...but Biostar GF7050V-M7 is for Intel platform....for further info "http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/content.php?S_ID=307"...:D:D
Charan
11-11-2007, 03:25 PM
Sigh... Im as confused as a monkey with cellphone... :(
Need suggesstion for MOBO + CPU + RAM,
I will go for E6750 , but please recomend a motherboard, NON-SLI , basic overclocking is ok. budget for all 3 - 15K
I have heard that XFX 650i has some stability issues with it. Also please let me know about the chipsets which came after 965..
I have a nVidia 7300GT with me, so even if there is no onboard graphics its ok for me.
Gigacore
11-11-2007, 04:36 PM
get Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
zyberboy
11-11-2007, 05:09 PM
Sigh... Im as confused as a monkey with cellphone... :(
Need suggesstion for MOBO + CPU + RAM,
I will go for E6750 , but please recomend a motherboard, NON-SLI , basic overclocking is ok. budget for all 3 - 15K
I have heard that XFX 650i has some stability issues with it. Also please let me know about the chipsets which came after 965..
I have a nVidia 7300GT with me, so even if there is no onboard graphics its ok for me.
after 965, nividia launched 680 & 650 chipsets and now intels p35 and g33
All decent motherboards for intel are above 7k except xfx 650i ultra.
There is good comparison of intel motherboards in this months digit,have read it?
If u want good performance in games choose nividia based chipset frm xfx or galaxy.
Good features in mb then asus starting frm 7k
Performance+energy efficient then 965 based mobo.(nividia chipset consumes 25-35w more).
a_k_s_h_a_y
11-11-2007, 05:32 PM
^^ change the 8400 gs to a 8600gt.. ur friend ll thank u in the future..
save on the proccy if u want to.. get a e2140 and oc it..
he is computer newb so no OC
and i think arun gives a good config
now to that i wil tell him to add a gfx card for gaming and hd movies
As he is going to use it as Media PC i advised him to get 8400...for gaming it is not good...:D
CPU -E6750 2.66ghz -07800
MB -Biostar 7050-03200
Graphics -Integrated
HDD -Seagate (250GB SATA) -02600
RAM -Transcend 1024 X 2 (667 Mhz) -01900
Moniter -Viewsonic 1930wm -09100
Cabinet -Zebronics Normal -01000
KB & Mouse -Any -00500
DVD -Sony -01200
TV Tuner -Pinnacle PC TV PCI -02400
Speaker -Altec Lansing Basic 2.1 -01000
=======================================
Total -30200
=======================================
No need to overclock this system at all....if u wish u may slightly overclock also.....:D:D:D
Thanks.. this is much better then the pathetic Config some dumb guy gave for 30k !!
will advice him to add 8600 GT and make it 35k PC and Rock it with games at medium settings.. should satisfy in all ways for a 1st time gamer
Gigacore
11-11-2007, 05:37 PM
@ charan bro... please go for P35..
arun_chennai
11-11-2007, 06:56 PM
Sigh... Im as confused as a monkey with cellphone... :(
Need suggesstion for MOBO + CPU + RAM,
I will go for E6750 , but please recomend a motherboard, NON-SLI , basic overclocking is ok. budget for all 3 - 15K
I have heard that XFX 650i has some stability issues with it. Also please let me know about the chipsets which came after 965..
I have a nVidia 7300GT with me, so even if there is no onboard graphics its ok for me.
E6750==>7.8k
Biostar P35==>4.2k
2*1gb Transcend 800Mhz==>2.6k
Total==>14.6k
Pathik
11-11-2007, 07:03 PM
@arun any idea of the price of this??
http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=TF7150U-M7
vivekbabbudelhi
11-11-2007, 07:05 PM
E6750==>7.8k
Biostar P35==>4.2k
2*1gb Transcend 800Mhz==>2.6k
Total==>14.6k
yeah charan this config rocks...if u are suspicious about biostar then instead get MSI neo p35 for 6.5k
~It_is_Andrew~
11-11-2007, 07:32 PM
I was looking for a configuration & I more or less decided on the following: (the prices are indicative from theitwires, if anyone know the updated amount (kolkata) please specify)
AMD Athlon x2 5600+ --- 6600
Asus M2A VM --- 3500
2 GB Transcend DDR2 800 MHz --- 3000
250GB Seagate (16mb) HDD --- 2900
Colorsit SMPS + Cabinet --- no idea(~2000)
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Total ~ 18000+ VAT
Primarily I had a much lower budget but as it came to this, I started wondering if I will make a mistake by not opting for better Core2Duo series by spending little extra?
What do you guys suggest(with specific details please)
Would like to try basic oc.
Please reply , I will be eagerly waiting ;)
arun_chennai
11-11-2007, 09:07 PM
@arun any idea of the price of this??
http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=TF7150U-M7
Actually I called Abacus Peripherals (Chennai Branch) to enquire about this MB only...but they told me that it will take 1 or 2 weeks for that board to arrive:-(:-(...but they gave the price of 7050 model as 3.3k...i am also waiting for 7150 only (coz it has DVI & HDMI;-);-))...
I was looking for a configuration & I more or less decided on the following: (the prices are indicative from theitwires, if anyone know the updated amount (kolkata) please specify)
AMD Athlon x2 5600+ --- 6600
Asus M2A VM --- 3500
2 GB Transcend DDR2 800 MHz --- 3000
250GB Seagate (16mb) HDD --- 2900
Colorsit SMPS + Cabinet --- no idea(~2000)
---------------------------------------------------
Total ~ 18000+ VAT
Primarily I had a much lower budget but as it came to this, I started wondering if I will make a mistake by not opting for better Core2Duo series by spending little extra?
What do you guys suggest(with specific details please)
Would like to try basic oc.
Please reply , I will be eagerly waiting ;)
For the very same price get the following config & it is equivalent to AMD X2 6000 (at stock)
Intel E6550 --- 6900
Biostar 7050 --- 3200
2 GB Transcend DDR2 800 MHz --- 3000
250GB Seagate (16mb) HDD --- 2900
Colorsit SMPS + Cabinet --- no idea(~2000)
---------------------------------------------------
Total ~ 18000+ VAT
---------------------------------------------------
A better system without overclocking....
If u overclock this proc it can easily acheive (400FSB*7==>2.8Ghz) & will kill any AMD offering....:D:D
zyberboy
11-11-2007, 10:22 PM
I was looking for a configuration & I more or less decided on the following: (the prices are indicative from theitwires, if anyone know the updated amount (kolkata) please specify)
AMD Athlon x2 5600+ --- 6600
Asus M2A VM --- 3500
2 GB Transcend DDR2 800 MHz --- 3000
250GB Seagate (16mb) HDD --- 2900
Colorsit SMPS + Cabinet --- no idea(~2000)
---------------------------------------------------
Total ~ 18000+ VAT
Primarily I had a much lower budget but as it came to this, I started wondering if I will make a mistake by not opting for better Core2Duo series by spending little extra?
What do you guys suggest(with specific details please)
Would like to try basic oc.
Please reply , I will be eagerly waiting ;)
better to choose 5200+ 2.7 Brisbane core(not windsor) for which uses less power and runs cooler than 5600+.
not much difference in performance also.
If u r going for core 2 duo u will need to find a good motherboard(above 6k) to match core 2 duo .
In amd platform u will get good motherboard under 4k,so another option is to buy amd 5000+ black edition having unlocked multiplier(overclocking is easy) and to overclock it to match performance similar to core 2 duo at stock cooling.
Charan
11-11-2007, 10:45 PM
@cyberboy , gigacore, arun and vivek , harvik ( via PM :) ) thanks a lot for your suggestions..
I want to choose between these
Biostar P35 ( just one model available ) but there is one problem in this board.. the power connectors are right inthe middle of the board between the processor and the pcie x16 port..
MSI P35 Neo. The board looks quite good. will look into this closer :)
There is one more board Intel DP35DP (http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP35DP/index.htm) how is it?
~It_is_Andrew~
11-11-2007, 11:22 PM
Thanx for the reply arun_chennai & cyberboy_kerala :)
better to choose 5200+ 2.7 Brisbane core(not windsor) for which uses less power and runs cooler than 5600+.
not much difference in performance also.
If u r going for core 2 duo u will need to find a good motherboard(above 6k) to match core 2 duo .
In amd platform u will get good motherboard under 4k,so another option is to buy amd 5000+ black edition having unlocked multiplier(overclocking is easy) and to overclock it to match performance similar to core 2 duo at stock cooling.
I choose 5600+ because I heard its the first one(in ascending order) in that series to have 2 MB L2 cache .
& also some say 5200+ is 2.7GHz some say its 2.6 GHz?? Once i read somewhere that running a proc with odd number of 1/2 of GHz rating should be avoided as it'll not be able to make use of full 800MHz speed of the ram, I'm not sure about how that works though!?
edit : how to differentiate between "Brisbane core(not windsor)"??
Charan
12-11-2007, 03:52 AM
I checked a few rewiews of Biostar P35 TP35D2-A7 at PC Stats (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2173&page=1) and TechReport (http://techreport.com/articles.x/13079/1) and I have to say im impressed with this board.. :)
Will check the availability and exact cost of this board in bangalore.
arun_chennai
12-11-2007, 10:24 AM
better to choose 5200+ 2.7 Brisbane core(not windsor) for which uses less power and runs cooler than 5600+.
not much difference in performance also.
If u r going for core 2 duo u will need to find a good motherboard(above 6k) to match core 2 duo .
In amd platform u will get good motherboard under 4k,so another option is to buy amd 5000+ black edition having unlocked multiplier(overclocking is easy) and to overclock it to match performance similar to core 2 duo at stock cooling.
hey man 4.2k Biostar P35 is more than enough to handle Core 2 duo (or quad)....dont be loyal to a company...just get the brand which is best at a particular point of time...now Intel is better & so i advised him to get it...if phenom is better then i will suggest that...fanboyism is bullshit...:grin::grin:
vivekbabbudelhi
12-11-2007, 10:55 AM
There is one more board Intel DP35DP (http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP35DP/index.htm) how is it?
intel DBOARDS no no no
u can also look at abit IP35-E .its a decent overclocker...
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/ip35economy/
Charan
12-11-2007, 11:32 AM
^^ I wonder why no no to intel D Boards.. doesnt intel perform that good?
Gigacore
12-11-2007, 11:43 AM
They will.. but they are damn expensive.. other mother manufactures will integrate same chipset and wil give u more features at low price!
Charan
12-11-2007, 02:13 PM
I spoke to a few guys and e6750 is not available for less than 8K.
Intel E6750 = Rs. 8000 + 4%
Biostar P35 = Rs. 4400 + 4 %
2 x 1GB DDR 2 @ 800 MHz = Rs. 2800 + 4%
GT = Rs. 15800
maybe I can bargain with them to get it under 15K :p , on the other hand I checked with Computerwarehouse and this was their price.
Intel E6750 = Rs. 8450 + 4% = Rs. 8788 :|
they have only intel mobos for c2d
INTEL DG 31PR = 4500
INTEL DG 33FBC = 5400
INTEL DG 33TLM = 7200
1GB DDR 2 @ 800 MHz = Rs. 1530 + 4%
this comes about 1-2K more than what I get in SP road...
zyberboy
12-11-2007, 05:55 PM
hey man 4.2k Biostar P35 is more than enough to handle Core 2 duo (or quad)....dont be loyal to a company...just get the brand which is best at a particular point of time...now Intel is better & so i advised him to get it...if phenom is better then i will suggest that...fanboyism is bullshit...:grin::grin:
who is fanboy here? My last two systems are intel and i am still using one.so bad guess work frm u.
Biostar p35 is vfm mobo but not good as asus or msi in terms of performance , it has problem with NIC which causes high cpu usage .And also its lag behind other mobo in gaming performance
Charan
12-11-2007, 06:39 PM
^^ Yea I forgot that point about high CPU usage on NIC for BioStar p35.. does it always take that much CPU or just when using on 1000 mbps.
upendra_gp
12-11-2007, 08:42 PM
friends is the cost of AMD 6000 and Motherboard combo at Rs.10900 fine?
janitha
12-11-2007, 08:53 PM
friends is the cost of AMD 6000 and Motherboard combo at Rs.10900 fine?
which Mobo?
haokipomb
12-11-2007, 09:16 PM
guys, is Asus P5KC a good mobo for E 6750 proccy. and how future proof it is? any other suggested mobos from Asus.
budget is 10k
appreciate ur helps.
thnx
zyberboy
12-11-2007, 10:01 PM
^^ Yea I forgot that point about high CPU usage on NIC for BioStar p35.. does it always take that much CPU or just when using on 1000 mbps.
somewhere i read that its cpu usage is high even with core 2 duo.
If u r going for this mobo put a Nic card
Northbridge heat sink Fan is a must ,And also dont overclock too much with this, since it only have 3 phase voltage regulator as opposed to 8 phase in asus(xfx 650i hav 4 phase) so stability problems may creep in long run.
If u dont overclock too much with this mobo then its a good buy.
keith_j_snyder2
13-11-2007, 01:16 AM
guys, is Asus P5KC a good mobo for E 6750 proccy. and how future proof it is? any other suggested mobos from Asus.
budget is 10k
appreciate ur helps.
thnx
Yeah thats a kill for a motherboard but it only supports X-Fire. And u gonna need ATi cards for that. Although nVidia card is also supported but not in SLI. But even if u still use single nVidia card then also the performance will not be that much great.
Rest is fine with the motherboard!
haokipomb
13-11-2007, 01:55 AM
Yeah thats a kill for a motherboard but it only supports X-Fire. And u gonna need ATi cards for that. Although nVidia card is also supported but not in SLI. But even if u still use single nVidia card then also the performance will not be that much great.
Rest is fine with the motherboard!
thanx keith, but can u kindly explain what u mean by "it only supports X-fire". do u mean this card is no good for nVidia card. do u want to suggest other asus mobos within similar price range.
thanx agn
keith_j_snyder2
13-11-2007, 02:47 AM
It will not be possible to run 2 nVidia cards in SLI mode but if u have 2 ATi cards then u can enjoy Crossfire ( ATi's technology to run 2 graphics cards on i system. THats whats 2 PCI-E slots are for)
My suggestion is P5N 32 E SLI @ 12500/- but trust me this motherboard is better than P5K-C apart from DDR3 Support.
or XFX nForce 680i-LTSLI for 10500/-.
I am not a Intel original chipset fan so i don't know much about Intel chipsets but if u really wanna buy an Intel chipset then buy X38 chipset which is better than P35 chipset.
I always suggest and buy nVidia or ATi chipsets! Beeter than Intel originals!
arun_chennai
13-11-2007, 08:38 AM
who is fanboy here? My last two systems are intel and i am still using one.so bad guess work frm u.
Biostar p35 is vfm mobo but not good as asus or msi in terms of performance , it has problem with NIC which causes high cpu usage .And also its lag behind other mobo in gaming performance
Dont get tensed for everything mate...:D:D:D...check out this page
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2173&page=11
in this Biostar P35 beats Gigabyte P35 & X38 in all the games...:D
And one more this is ASUS P35 board costs more than 8.5k (twice that of Biostar board) & MSI NEO costs 6.5k...for 4.4k definately Biostar P35 is the best...
somewhere i read that its cpu usage is high even with core 2 duo.
If u r going for this mobo put a Nic card
Northbridge heat sink Fan is a must ,And also dont overclock too much with this, since it only have 3 phase voltage regulator as opposed to 8 phase in asus(xfx 650i hav 4 phase) so stability problems may creep in long run.
If u dont overclock too much with this mobo then its a good buy.
Please give me the link that stats about the high CPU usage of Biostar P35....coz i have a plan to buy that:D:D...& one more thing i never mentioned u as a fayboy & i explained only about the general fanboyism;);)....
guys, is Asus P5KC a good mobo for E 6750 proccy. and how future proof it is? any other suggested mobos from Asus.
budget is 10k
appreciate ur helps.
thnx
for 10k Abit P35pro is the best...if u stick to ASUS then P5KC is also a very good board & it supports Penryn Line up,so it future proof also...:)
Charan
13-11-2007, 11:44 AM
Please give me the link that stats about the high CPU usage of Biostar P35....coz i have a plan to buy that
Arun this is the quote from techreport.
Peripheral performance
We've condensed our peripheral performance testing results to a single page to give a quick overview of where Biostar's boards stand.
We evaluated Ethernet performance using the NTttcp tool from Microsoft's Windows DDK. Our server was a Windows XP Pro system based on Asus' P5WD2 Premium motherboard with a Pentium 4 3.4GHz Extreme Edition (800MHz front-side bus, Hyper-Threading enabled) and PCI Express-attached Gigabit Ethernet. A crossover CAT6 cable was used to connect the server to each system.
NTttcp Ethernet performance
mobo-- Throughput (Mbps)---CPU utilization (%)
Biostar TP35D2-A7 --692.154 -- 43.20
Biostar TP35D3-A7 Deluxe (DDR3)-- 943.112-- 21.98
On the Ethernet front, things look reasonably good for the D3, which offers competitive throughput and acceptable CPU utilization. The D2, however, is a disaster. Not only does the board's PCI-based Gigabit Ethernet controller's throughput fail to reach 700Mbps, but CPU utilization is also over 43%—more than double that of GigE implementations with similar throughput.
I donot think this will be a problem cause not many use the gigabit interface , and maybe this is just a bios glitch which may be fixed in the future.
BTW I also think this wont affect when using it in 10/100 speed.
Link (http://techreport.com/articles.x/13079/8)
upendra_gp
13-11-2007, 12:25 PM
which Mobo?
don't know......he said that its nvidia mobo i.e. board-processor combo
janitha
13-11-2007, 04:47 PM
don't know......he said that its nvidia mobo i.e. board-processor combo
Then how can anybody tell whether its combo with AMD 6000 is worth Rs.10900?
arun_chennai
14-11-2007, 08:22 AM
Arun this is the quote from techreport.
I donot think this will be a problem cause not many use the gigabit interface , and maybe this is just a bios glitch which may be fixed in the future.
BTW I also think this wont affect when using it in 10/100 speed.
Link (http://techreport.com/articles.x/13079/8)
Thank u verymuch man...
go4saket
14-11-2007, 06:52 PM
I need to buy a 19" Square (4:3) LCD monitor in a budget of around 10K with good responce time. Which do you think I should go for.
Viewsonic VX922 with 2ms responce time seems to be impressive and has good reviews on the net. How do you think it is or is there some other even better in the same price tag.
Please let me know the model and price of the same. I am not interested in Widescreen monitors.
janitha
14-11-2007, 07:40 PM
I need to buy a 19" Square (4:3) LCD monitor in a budget of around 10K with good responce time. Which do you think I should go for.
Viewsonic VX922 with 2ms responce time seems to be impressive and has good reviews on the net. How do you think it is or is there some other even better in the same price tag.
Please let me know the model and price of the same. I am not interested in Widescreen monitors.
Had bought the same 13 months back. Had to RMA twice during the period due to brightness and contrast problems and on both occasions it was replaced once within 10 days and second time within 20 days. But performance is really good when functional. It seems later ones have improved. But is it still in production? Anyways it is available with theitwares for 10.5K.
upendra_gp
14-11-2007, 08:20 PM
I need to buy a 19" Square (4:3) LCD monitor in a budget of around 10K with good responce time. Which do you think I should go for.
Viewsonic VX922 with 2ms responce time seems to be impressive and has good reviews on the net. How do you think it is or is there some other even better in the same price tag.
Please let me know the model and price of the same. I am not interested in Widescreen monitors.
first of all 4:3 can NEVER be a SQUARE! LG's 19" lcd is also good btw.
go4saket
14-11-2007, 08:23 PM
I now 4:3 is not square but its said that way... Square and Widescreen....
Anyways, thanks a tonn for the info...
upendra_gp
14-11-2007, 08:29 PM
Then how can anybody tell whether its combo with AMD 6000 is worth Rs.10900?
Ok sorry...... i asked he said that its original nVidia mobo with nForce chipset.
go4saket
14-11-2007, 08:56 PM
Had bought the same 13 months back. Had to RMA twice during the period due to brightness and contrast problems and on both occasions it was replaced once within 10 days and second time within 20 days. But performance is really good when functional. It seems later ones have improved. But is it still in production? Anyways it is available with theitwares for 10.5K.
Any idea which is the current model running successfully...
upendra_gp
14-11-2007, 09:24 PM
where is choto?
and also the prices mentioned here are distributor prices or grey market ones?
ok here is my question again(with some changes)
Choto u suggested me this config
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/show...postcount=1018
For some reason there is change in the budget so please fit it in 20k keeping 2GB RAM,160GB HDD .
I was thinking of getting an AMD 5000+(Black edition) or 6000+ board-proccy combo . What do you think of this? And I have old DVD-Writer.
And i will be ripping my entire dvd collection on a harddisk using x264.I will be doing DVD ripping in short with x264. And I will be playing games like Crysis etc. My computerwallah says that it will be enough but i still think that Intel C2D is more powerful at a bit less or more price.
Thanks in advance!
Charan
14-11-2007, 09:26 PM
^^^ Choto is busy with exams :(
sonu1983
14-11-2007, 10:27 PM
ok guys..my sis is getin the athlon 5000+black edition for me from the US :D..and also the 8800GT 512mb card...but now am stuck with the motherboard...ill be buyin a MOBO here in india itself..so am wondering which 1 do i go for..i can spend around 5k for it..but i donu for which 1 ... i thought of asus M2N-E..but its not tat gr8 i heard..any suggestions..?thanks in advance
janitha
14-11-2007, 11:04 PM
Any idea which is the current model running successfully...
Actually I meant that the later productions of the model which I received subsequently seem to have improved in general, ie they might have rectified its original issues. No idea about their later non-wide models. Generally all brands seem to popularize wide ones because they are cheaper to manufacture.
zyberboy
14-11-2007, 11:39 PM
ok guys..my sis is getin the athlon 5000+black edition for me from the US :D..and also the 8800GT 512mb card...but now am stuck with the motherboard...ill be buyin a MOBO here in india itself..so am wondering which 1 do i go for..i can spend around 5k for it..but i donu for which 1 ... i thought of asus M2N-E..but its not tat gr8 i heard..any suggestions..?thanks in advance
chk MSI K9N Ultra (NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra)
i saw bad reviews abt m2n-e, but i am going to buy that soon becoz its such a nice mobo
dearkumar
15-11-2007, 02:25 PM
for processor I am buying Intel e6600 or 6750 . Now I am looking for good motherboard for it . Now mobo should have lan card and bluetooth support, that a major criteria and better if Not an MSI motherboard . so tell me which options I have .
Charan
15-11-2007, 02:37 PM
^^ your budget?
do checkout this months digit .. lotsa mobos reviewed :)
dearkumar
15-11-2007, 04:16 PM
budget >> less than 7k
ravi_9793
15-11-2007, 04:42 PM
budget >> less than 7k
Go for Asus P5B K
Pathik
15-11-2007, 04:47 PM
Biostar TF7150
arun_chennai
15-11-2007, 05:57 PM
for processor I am buying Intel e6600 or 6750 . Now I am looking for good motherboard for it . Now mobo should have lan card and bluetooth support, that a major criteria and better if Not an MSI motherboard . so tell me which options I have .
Integrated Graphics===>Biostar 7150 (Price ~5k)
No IGP=============>ABIT P35IE;) (Price ~6k)
Tech_Wiz
16-11-2007, 04:44 PM
For the guy with AMD 5000+ Black Edition:
Make Sure you get a Motherboard which has EXTENSIVE OC capabilities. That Proc is one of best overclockable things out there with Multiplier upto 25x. :D
Read it reviews. So if u want to get max out of it get a rocking mobo ;)
gulgulumaal
16-11-2007, 10:19 PM
Guys, please suggest some good Micro ATX format motherboard for my Intel Pentium D 2.8 processor.
I have following requirements for the mobo
1) My cabinet is MicroATX so I need a microATX board. Dont want to buy another cabinet/SMPS.
2) Should have atleast 4 RAM slots.
3) Cost <= 5K Lower the better of course
5) Onboard video is not a must since I have a separate PCIe graphics card.
6) Should be as future proof as possible. like support for quad core processors.
I was thinking of getting XFX 650i ultra but it is not of MicroATX size
Pathik
17-11-2007, 12:37 AM
Biostar p35
gulgulumaal
17-11-2007, 01:43 AM
Biostar p35
U mean Biostar P35 TP35D2-A7 right?..but looks like it's full ATX not MicroATX form factor :(
Charan
17-11-2007, 01:54 AM
^^^ Yea Biostar P35 .. +1 .. But it has one problem with Gigabit lan .. 48% CPU usage.. which I dont think will be a problem cause not many home users use gigabit lan.
gulgulumaal
17-11-2007, 02:11 AM
^^^ Yea Biostar P35 .. +1 .. But it has one problem with Gigabit lan .. 48% CPU usage.. which I dont think will be a problem cause not many home users use gigabit lan.
Again..prob is that it's not MicroATX. I have a nice microatx cabinet which I dont want to throw away..thats why I'm insisting on a microatx mobo.
upendra_gp
17-11-2007, 09:24 AM
new change
I have a budget of 25k
I think i can get a q6600
please suggest mobo
ravi_9793
17-11-2007, 09:43 AM
new change
I have a budget of 25k
I think i can get a q6600
please suggest mobo
how about ASUS P5B premium, price 11K
Pathik
17-11-2007, 10:43 PM
@upendra
asus p5n 32e sli
or asus p5k3 dlx or get a asus p5e3 dlx.. But it may be costly
lnkrishnan
18-11-2007, 11:19 AM
Folks, can somebody please help me with a suggestion for an AGP based motherboard preferably supporting AMD 3200+ XP processor??? Thanks for your help.
nvidia
18-11-2007, 11:21 AM
Why do you need a AGP supporting motherboard??
I dont think you can get a new motherboard that supports AGP these days..
You need to get a second hand motherboard.
sarulan
18-11-2007, 11:48 AM
Posting from Hardware Trouble shooting forum.....
I have started building mATX HTPC for my Movie collection.
Here are the specs
mATX case: Antec NSK2400 “Media Center” - Rs 7000
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=92400
Review : http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...00/index.shtml
Price:7000
mATX Mother Board
ASRock 1333FullHD, Intel LGA775, 1333FSB,upto 8GB, ATi X1250, PCIEx16, DVI, 7.1 ch HD audio
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...ORE1333-FULLHD
Review: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3072&p=5
Review: http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...HD/index.shtml
Price:6500
Cpu : Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 stepping
Review: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Intel-...iew-29731.html
Review: http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/int...spx?i=3038&p=8
Torn between E6750/6850 v/s Q6600 finally opted for Quad core.
price:11500
Ram: DDR2 2GB PC6400 DUAL C4 OCZ
CL 4-4-4-15 Timing with Heat sinks
price:4000
Harddisk: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3500641AS-RK 500GB -
Specs: 500GB, 7,200rpm, 16MB Buffer, SATA 300MBps Interface
price:6500
DVDwriter: Flick from my existing system NEC DVD+-RW/DL
price:Free
Total Price: 35,500
Going to take my time to build this one.
This is mainly for hdtv movies to be played on my LG LCD TV.
I am waiting for ATI HD3850 or Nvidia Geforce8800GT 256MB to come in Rs10,000 price range ( which will happen by christmas), then this system can be used as gaming pc. (Although I dont have much time nowadays to play games, Hl2 ep2 has come, so waiting to play it )
Also waiting for HD-DVD drive to become affordable(Rs 10,000 range)
upendra_gp
18-11-2007, 12:09 PM
how about ASUS P5B premium, price 11K
@upendra
asus p5n 32e sli
or asus p5k3 dlx or get a asus p5e3 dlx.. But it may be costly
Thanks for the suggestionjs but I have a budget of only 7-8k.
Rest of my system will be
E6750/Q6600
2GB 667 MHz RAM 3000
160GB hdd 2500
Cabinet 1400
Creative Speakers(may become optional) 1400
I have indicated the costs so please suggest me good one with overclocking capabilities for the proccys and please give the price too!
My budget is 25k. I have old DVD-writer. Also please suggest one with good onboard graphics such that it wud play gaes like crysis atleast at low settings.
Ponmayilal
18-11-2007, 03:47 PM
[quote=sarulan]
mATX case: Antec NSK2400 “Media Center” - Rs 7000
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=92400
Review : http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...00/index.shtml
Price:7000
Instead of NSK 2400 why don't you go for Antec Fusion Black 430?
Quote "The Fusion Black 430 comes with a 430 Watt power supply and features an IR receiver that is compatible with Windows MCE & VISTA and an LCD display and a volume control knob, giving you full control over all your media in just one case."
If it were available when I did my MC PC, I would have gone for this.I have the plain Fusion 430 w/o the built-in IR receiver and hence using an external IR receiver that came with the mediacenter remote.
The black 430 is available in India for around Rs 11000/
sarulan
18-11-2007, 07:34 PM
Instead of NSK 2400 why don't you go for Antec Fusion Black 430?
Quote "The Fusion Black 430 comes with a 430 Watt power supply and features an IR receiver that is compatible with Windows MCE & VISTA and an LCD display and a volume control knob, giving you full control over all your media in just one case."
If it were available when I did my MC PC, I would have gone for this.I have the plain Fusion 430 w/o the built-in IR receiver and hence using an external IR receiver that came with the mediacenter remote.
The black 430 is available in India for around Rs 11000/
Some how I think It is little costly :) I was looking for Apevia qpack http://www.apevia.com/product.php?pid=220 But it was costing around Rs 8000+ with shipping to India.
Ponmayilal
18-11-2007, 09:44 PM
^ Look at this! When you are spending as much as Rs.11500/ on an Intel Quad core processor, as if you can't spend another Rs 4000/ on the cabinet. Anyways its all your choice. But one thing is certain. If you are going to take your time, by that time many things would have changed and I am sure you will have to and will revise your configuration:) BTW where will you get the OCZ modules from? Just curious.I do faintly remember that Prime AGGB had them on their website.Not sure though.
frontech
18-11-2007, 11:36 PM
i bought quadcore
intel motherboard
2 gb ddr ram
160 gb hd
liteon dvd writer
creative 2.1 speakers
warehouse
janitha
18-11-2007, 11:58 PM
^ Look at this! When you are spending as much as Rs.11500/ on an Intel Quad core processor, as if you can't spend another Rs 4000/ on the cabinet. Anyways its all your choice. But one thing is certain. If you are going to take your time, by that time many things would have changed and I am sure you will have to and will revise your configuration:) BTW where will you get the OCZ modules from? Just curious.I do faintly remember that Prime AGGB had them on their website.Not sure though.
Corsair, Gskill etc. @ prime and
OCZ, Corsair etc. @ yantra
Charan
19-11-2007, 12:00 AM
i bought quadcore
intel motherboard
2 gb ddr ram
160 gb hd
liteon dvd writer
creative 2.1 speakers
warehouse
What was the total cost? can you please give us specs of processor and mobo.
sarulan
19-11-2007, 09:48 AM
^ Look at this! When you are spending as much as Rs.11500/ on an Intel Quad core processor, as if you can't spend another Rs 4000/ on the cabinet. Anyways its all your choice. But one thing is certain. If you are going to take your time, by that time many things would have changed and I am sure you will have to and will revise your configuration:) BTW where will you get the OCZ modules from? Just curious.I do faintly remember that Prime AGGB had them on their website.Not sure though.
I have asked one of my friend to buy it from US (app $100 for 2GB)
Pathik
19-11-2007, 07:57 PM
^^ thats a great deal.
keith_j_snyder2
22-11-2007, 11:25 PM
P
Ram: DDR2 2GB PC6400 DUAL C4 OCZ
CL 4-4-4-15 Timing with Heat sinks
price:4000
Where did u find OCZ so cheap in India!
sarulan
23-11-2007, 04:33 PM
Where did u find OCZ so cheap in India!
I have asked one of my friend to buy it from US (app $100 for 2GB)
Some how I think It is little costly :) I was looking for Apevia qpack http://www.apevia.com/product.php?pid=220 But it was costing around Rs 8000+ with shipping to India.
I went ahead and bit the bullet. Ordered the Apevia case online & got it shipped. It arrived today with Rs1350 customs duty making the total to be Rs9000 :-)
keith_j_snyder2
23-11-2007, 05:41 PM
Corsair RAM is also avaialble in India @ itwares and yantra!
shyamno
25-11-2007, 08:02 AM
Is it possible to get a decent config(mobo+proce+RAM) with 10-12k ???
Mobo with good onboard graphics..is preferred....
suggest me both AMD and Intel parts ....
Is it possible to get a decent config(mobo+proce+RAM) with 10-12k ???
Mobo with good onboard graphics..is preferred....
suggest me both AMD and Intel parts ....
keith_j_snyder2
25-11-2007, 08:57 AM
4400+ = 3875/-
ASUS M2A - VM = 3875/-
Transcend 1 GB DDR2 667 = 950/-
E4500 = 5200/-
Intel DG33FB = 5200/-
Transcend 1 GB DDR2 667 = 950/-
shyamno
25-11-2007, 11:51 AM
Intel DG33FB ....would be a better choice....???
What about intel G965RY and also the Biostar Nvidia 7050/7150 ...??
lnkrishnan
25-11-2007, 02:08 PM
Why do you need a AGP supporting motherboard??
I dont think you can get a new motherboard that supports AGP these days..
You need to get a second hand motherboard.
The unfortunate reason is, I sunk in 10K on a XFX 6600GT graphics card at that time (when Digit "recommended" that AGP was the next-best-thing-since-sliced-bread and also said that PCI-E "in their opinion" is going to take quite some time to become mainstream). Too bad that I didn't realize that "quite some time" meant 2 months - my heart bleeds to see this graphics card go waste doing nothing.
So there, that's my sob story. Can anybody help? How do I even go and search for a 2nd-hand motherboard? Any pointers sir???
janitha
25-11-2007, 02:47 PM
The unfortunate reason is, I sunk in 10K on a XFX 6600GT graphics card at that time (when Digit "recommended" that AGP was the next-best-thing-since-sliced-bread and also said that PCI-E "in their opinion" is going to take quite some time to become mainstream). Too bad that I didn't realize that "quite some time" meant 2 months - my heart bleeds to see this graphics card go waste doing nothing.
So there, that's my sob story. Can anybody help? How do I even go and search for a 2nd-hand motherboard? Any pointers sir???
Going for an ancient Mobo for sake of a past mistake?
Tech_Wiz
25-11-2007, 03:02 PM
Sad story :P
I am feeling almost same when I bought 8600 GT just to know that 7900 GS / 1950XT are way faster than it and Vista doesnt require Dx 10 haha :D
Choto Cheeta
25-11-2007, 05:53 PM
Added a new section For all Torrent Lovers...
System For Dedicated download
Now this system will run 24x7, it has to be a power saver too...
AMD Sempron 3200+ AM2 @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
BIOSTAR / ASUS / MSI (K9MM-V) VIA Chipset based board supporting 4 SATA @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
250x2 SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 5200 /- + TAX
Cabinet + SMPS (Default 450 watts) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
2 Port KVM Switch (Tech Com) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 514/-
Total Rs. 13364/-
Here you dont need Input devices or VDU, as its a second system so KVM switch will take care of that :)... This system will run Windows XP or a Linux distro (which ever you prefer) with torrent clients like uTorrent or or fav :)... Note its a second system for those who use a high performance over clocked power hungry system for their main use... You may follow this guide to set up a simple lan and share the net connection between ur main system and this seeder box (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54225) :D
For those who wondering What is a KVM Switch ?? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch)...
satyamy
25-11-2007, 06:30 PM
Added a new section For all Torrent Lovers...
System For Dedicated download
...
Nice Config
Thanks :D
Usefull for Giant Downloaders
Edburg
25-11-2007, 07:44 PM
can anyone say anything about the overclockability of the biostar 7050 motherboard......there are no reviews on it in net
i am not looking for the extreme max overclock but like reaching 3-3.3 ghz in a e2140
Pathik
25-11-2007, 08:06 PM
I dont think it is too much of a OCer.. If u wanna OC get a Biostar p35 with a cheap gpu..
btw Chotoji vapas aa gaye
shyamno
25-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Intel DG33FB ....would be a better choice....???
What about intel G965RY and also the Biostar Nvidia 7050/7150 ...?? Please reply....
Choto Cheeta
25-11-2007, 09:18 PM
@Edburg
Sorry bro... :( few days ago in a local store i saw the BIOSTAR 7150 boad and I went through its manual, I didnt find any option in it which suggest it would support OC... Frequency are all locked under this board :(
@pathiks
hmm... yaar I have become BSNL connection (kavi hu to kavi nahi) :lol: right now in and again would be gone as study presure kicking in :lol:
@shyamno
say no to Intel boards as really not value for money as comes with locked BIOS :( as X2 4000 + M2N-MX SE is far far better than E2140 + DG33BU solution :)
Intel E2140 is only good and will out perform any contemporary X2 range when u combine it with XFX 650i ultra or higher and OC 10 to 25 % :D
Edburg
25-11-2007, 09:31 PM
thx for the info pathiks and choto....
i was looking for a budget overclocker board...even 50% overclock will do..seems the best bet is to go Abit ip35-e for 6.3k and maintian compatibility with penryn
any info on when the new nvidia 750i chipset or the AMD tri-core will launch ??
Choto Cheeta
25-11-2007, 09:37 PM
@Edburg
Didnt get your point bro... XFX 650i ultra is under ur budget !!! isnt it ??
shyamno
25-11-2007, 09:55 PM
say no to Intel boards as really not value for money as comes with locked BIOS :( as X2 4000 + M2N-MX SE is far far better than E2140 + DG33BU solution :)
Intel E2140 is only good and will out perform any contemporary X2 range when u combine it with XFX 650i ultra or higher and OC 10 to 25 % :D I or rather my friend is not going to overclock it....so he just need a good upgrade with descent mobo having onboard IGP and a good processor...
So ..which one he should go ...
Processor = E4500
Mobo = 1)Intel G33BU
2)Intel G965RY
3)Biostar 7050/7150
or any combo..better than this....
Choto Cheeta
25-11-2007, 10:21 PM
I or rather my friend is not going to overclock it....so he just need a good upgrade with descent mobo having onboard IGP and a good processor...
this that budget, Personally I would suggest none of the intel solution... I would say, AMD X2 4800 with M2A-VM (AMD 690G) or M2NPV-VM (Nvidia 6150) :)
gulgulumaal
25-11-2007, 11:58 PM
AMD Sempron 3200+ AM2 @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
BIOSTAR / ASUS / MSI (K9MM-V) VIA Chipset based board supporting 4 SATA @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
Hey Choto...where do u find K9MM-V mobos that cheap man?:o
I thought they cost minimum 2K.
Deltapage lists MSI K9MM-V for Rs 2150/-
Choto Cheeta
26-11-2007, 12:11 AM
@gulgulumaal
it is Rs. 1650/- + TAX Kolkata :)
keith_j_snyder2
26-11-2007, 12:36 AM
Added a new section For all Torrent Lovers...
System For Dedicated download
Now this system will run 24x7, it has to be a power saver too...
AMD Sempron 3200+ AM2 @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
BIOSTAR / ASUS / MSI (K9MM-V) VIA Chipset based board supporting 4 SATA @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
250x2 SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 5200 /- + TAX
Cabinet + SMPS (Default 450 watts) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
2 Port KVM Switch (Tech Com) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 514/-
Total Rs. 13364/-
I 'de suggest a 350W PSU which will be sufficient to run this config.
And buy those EE or BE processors from AMD they draw only 45W power and same as the other processors!
Added a new section For all Torrent Lovers...
System For Dedicated download
Now this system will run 24x7, it has to be a power saver too...
AMD Sempron 3200+ AM2 @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
BIOSTAR / ASUS / MSI (K9MM-V) VIA Chipset based board supporting 4 SATA @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
250x2 SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 5200 /- + TAX
Cabinet + SMPS (Default 450 watts) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
2 Port KVM Switch (Tech Com) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /- + TAX
TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 514/-
Total Rs. 13364/-
I 'de suggest a 350W PSU which will be sufficient to run this config.
And buy those EE or BE processors from AMD they draw only 45W power and same as the other processors!
Choto Cheeta
26-11-2007, 12:50 AM
I 'de suggest a 350W PSU which will be sufficient to run this config.
well now days u would have 400 or 450 watts coming as default with cabinet at Rs. 1200/- for Cabi + SMPS... but fact is that 450 wont give more than 350 watts on load :lol:
And buy those EE or BE processors from AMD they draw only 45W power and same as the other processors!
whats the price at ur place ?? as its unfortunate that BE range is available though really hard to come buy but actually its costlier than X2 range :lol:
Edburg
26-11-2007, 08:11 AM
@choto
yeah 650i is 4.9k alright but its a rather old chipset(already nearing nvidia 780/750 launch) with some heating issues and for 6.3k i think the abit ip35-e will be a better buy as it retains compatibility with penryn and overclock better.....
and also any info on when the tri-core processors from AMD launch or the penryn processors from intel ???
keith_j_snyder2
26-11-2007, 02:51 PM
@choto
yeah 650i is 4.9k alright but its a rather old chipset(already nearing nvidia 780/750 launch) with some heating issues and for 6.3k i think the abit ip35-e will be a better buy as it retains compatibility with penryn and overclock better.....
and also any info on when the tri-core processors from AMD launch or the penryn processors from intel ???
Hopefully first quater of 2008!
well now days u would have 400 or 450 watts coming as default with cabinet at Rs. 1200/- for Cabi + SMPS... but fact is that 450 wont give more than 350 watts on load :lol:
whats the price at ur place ?? as its unfortunate that BE range is available though really hard to come buy but actually its costlier than X2 range :lol:
I was telling that 350 Watt will be sufficient for this config because of the huge electricity bills.
My cooler master 430 W Extreme is real pain in the butt if i run my System 24/7
I never saw that BE edition either. But the EE editon is available in Nehru Place, New Delhi.....donno the price but its less power consuming that regular ones!
satyamy
27-11-2007, 12:33 PM
AMD Sempron 3200+ AM2 @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
BIOSTAR / ASUS / MSI (K9MM-V) VIA Chipset based board supporting 4 SATA @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
512 MB DDR-II 667 MHz @ ?
Cabinet + SMPS (Default 450 watts) @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
Monitor ?
Hi Saurav
Can you Pls help my Friend for his PC
He need a Very Very Very Very Cheap PC
I was thinking for the above mentioned but he alread has
Intel 2.8Ghz Processor and 80GB PATA HDD, Keyboard, Mouse
So need rest of the thing which ever is cheapest
and hence monitor is costly he will try to get a Second Hand Monitor
Dont think of Any Performance
He only need to run Internet Explorer and nothing else
hahaha :D
Pls help once more...
bnaresh84
27-11-2007, 07:47 PM
I would like to build a decent gaming PC with 35k as budget
Please suggest the best available options. I already have a good LCD monitor (View Sonic vx194wm)
My personal liking is this:
2 GB RAM
NVIDIA 8600 GT
C2D e6750
250 GB HDD
Vista Home premium
Need mother board suggestion
Need CPU case suggestion
Please let me know if I can get this configuration for 35k
keith_j_snyder2
27-11-2007, 07:52 PM
Dude...since u already mentioned the name...so i shouldn't give my opinion...but heck.....i will still give! LOL!
Just Kidding!!!
Really cheap means......tell him to buy a used computer....it will come in cheap and also fulfill his requirement.
One shouldn't buy the new stuff or expensive stuff when u have less requirement!
dOm1naTOr
27-11-2007, 07:57 PM
@satyamy
HCL 15" CRT 3.3k
Zebronics cabby low end: 0.8k
DVD Rom: 0.8k
256 DDR2: 0.4k
And u can't get mobo for p4 2.8 if its not LGA socket. oes it have pins on it?If yes, then no mobos are availale fo da proccy.
If it is pinless, then get a low end 915 based mobo.
Edburg
27-11-2007, 08:28 PM
And u can't get mobo for p4 2.8 if its not LGA socket. oes it have pins on it?If yes, then no mobos are availale fo da proccy.
If it is pinless, then get a low end 915 based mobo.
I just got a Zebronics 845GV mobo for my aging P4 2.4GHz socket 478 pin......but i agree it is piontless to buy that now(came to know only after getting it)....
it costs 2.2k.....its the only board avcailable for 478 pin now.....but the board is crappy and no support at all....especially after having used intel G865GBF board
frontech
27-11-2007, 10:15 PM
What was the total cost? can you please give us specs of processor and mobo.
Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz Q6600 Processor (javascript:PDetails('1531'))
11750
INTEL D975XBX2 (javascript:PDetails('1191'))
11000
liteon 1330
seagtae 2000
ram 3330
cabinet
2000
i already have 17'' lcd monitor (hp)
upendra_gp
28-11-2007, 01:06 PM
chotobhai please check post no.1130.
is the price of 13k good for Q6600?
which shud I consider buying choto Q6600 or E6750?
dronadula
28-11-2007, 02:51 PM
thnkx man there is a lot's of INFO
this one is a cool post man
Choto Cheeta
28-11-2007, 03:21 PM
chotobhai please check post no.1130.
is the price of 13k good for Q6600?
which shud I consider buying choto Q6600 or E6750
Q6600 should be around Rs. 11200/- + TAX (4% VAT)... thats what it is in Kolkata...
E6750 is Rs. 7800/- + TAX...
so they are not same when u compare them with price how ever E6850 is Rs. 11500/- + TAX ...
now I would say E6850 is more OC friendly where as Q6600 is a Quad Core processor... at present there are not much Apps or OS which can use the C2Q properlly so if u are not thinking for the future i would say then E6850 is what u should eye...
but if you are buying a system which u want to use for another 3 years without processor I would say think for the C2Q then :)
keith_j_snyder2
28-11-2007, 09:05 PM
Besides the Q6600 shows some really good results compared to PHENOM X4!
I must say that AMD is nor showing what it is supposed to!
Intel is still leading the war!
upendra_gp
29-11-2007, 03:37 PM
good to see u back choto!
thanks! please tell me if crysis will run on 8600gt?
thanks keith!
keith_j_snyder2
29-11-2007, 03:56 PM
Dude if u are planning to run CRISIS in high resolution or maxed out settings....then i gotta tell u that even 8800 GTS also fails to give decent frame rates!
But if u plan to play in medium or low settings then 8600 GT is not a bad deal at all!
xsreality
29-11-2007, 10:41 PM
i m planning on buying ASUS P5N-E SLI with E6700... i need a gud grfx card around 8-9k so that i can play games like NFS Carbon...
which grfx card wud u suggest? XFX 8600GT is on my mind but is there any other better alternative to it in 8-9k?
Harvik780
29-11-2007, 10:45 PM
^^Yes you can opt for XFX 8600GT fatility which is available from Rashi Peripherals for 9k.Else you can go for XFX 8600GT XXX which will be available for 8.5k
dOm1naTOr
29-11-2007, 10:47 PM
@xsreality
take a look at ATI's new HD series. They are more future proof nd has xtreme value for money.
HD 3800
Harvik780
29-11-2007, 10:49 PM
We can easily expect nvidia to revise its midrange cards too.So expect new line of Geforce 8600/8700 based G94 graphics cards at a much cheaper price and more performance.
Choto Cheeta
29-11-2007, 10:52 PM
i m planning on buying ASUS P5N-E SLI with E6700... i need a gud grfx card around 8-9k so that i can play games like NFS Carbon...
which grfx card wud u suggest? XFX 8600GT is on my mind but is there any other better alternative to it in 8-9k?
I wuld ask you to change the plan a little....
yes stick with C2D but just few alteration...
I would say with your budget look in to this,
E6550
XFX 650i Ultra
now this 2 will allow budget to ctach a XFX 8800 GT 512 MB which is Rs. 13000/- + TAX :)
thank you...
xsreality
30-11-2007, 12:25 AM
thnx guys...
@choto cheeta
i like ur suggestion.. but i wud like to know how XFX 650i ultra is different from ASUS P5N-E SLI? will i be compromising many features of the latter..?
@aravind_n20
there is a big availibility problem here in nagpur for ATI cards...
Choto Cheeta
30-11-2007, 12:34 AM
@choto cheeta
i like ur suggestion.. but i wud like to know how XFX 650i ultra is different from ASUS P5N-E SLI? will i be compromising many features of the latter..?
1. SLI, which is good for nothing a under SLi for P5N-E SLi cards will run at 8x speed (half of their original speed)... So if one needs SLi then P5N32-E Sli is the lowest to think for...
2. Higher OC not possible as RAM voltage is only alloowed up to 2.1v... and suppose u want to do 3.6 Ghz or more under ur E6550 or E6750 then u need high vaule rams and u need to set RAM voltage over 2.1v in that case XFX 650i would lag behind...
So I dont think SLi is an option for the P5N-E SLi :lol: and I dont think u would be Ocing that hard... so u are not compromising any with XFX 650i ultra :D
xsreality
30-11-2007, 12:14 PM
ya overclocking is not my priorty... well i just hope 650i board is available here...
thnx for the suggestions!
1 more thing... in LCD monitors which shud i opt for in 19" WS category..?? viewsonic or samsung? black wud be preferable to me...
Choto Cheeta
30-11-2007, 12:58 PM
^^^
VG1930WM I would say as its cheap and pretty good on performance too :) but beware for the vx1932wm models of View Sonic :lol:
from ur web site I see u are already employed :lol: so I dont think budget would be concirn for u... so also consider Dell 22" widescreen which is Rs. 13900/- all at Kolkata... Model Number Dell E228WFP (http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/20lcd?c=in&cs=indhs1&l=en&s=dhs)
:)
xsreality
30-11-2007, 06:07 PM
hmm.. dats d one i was suggested... u got a gud review of the vx1932wm model coz on the viewsonic site i was temporarily impressed by its incorrect features..:o
my dear friend.. i m employed but the money that i will be spending for this system won't be mine! i m yet to finish one of my semesters then i wud join & be able to think freely atleast about money!! :D
22"... man! doesn't it seem to be too big for a monitor?? that wud be bigger than my television set! mayb i wil stick with that 19" model only... though it has got a strange bottom shape!:-P
Choto Cheeta
30-11-2007, 11:04 PM
@xsreality
The Dell 22" model worth the extra 4k which would one sepnd over 19" view sonic counter part, the vg1930wm which is at Rs. 9500/- :)
anyway its personal choice, if u cant extend the budget then yeah 19" vg1930wm wont be a bad buy :)
satyamy
01-12-2007, 12:45 AM
I need to Build the Cheapest PC, no worries about Performance
Only use is Internet and Office application
Can you please tell me its Config and Quote ?
dOm1naTOr
01-12-2007, 12:47 AM
@satyamy
go for second. ull get a gud deal @ 2~3k w/o monitor.
keith_j_snyder2
01-12-2007, 12:57 PM
Is Dell LCDs are really that good....i have seen on the web that people owns 32" or more supporting 2650X2048....somewhat resolution!
What is the price for 19" Wide screen DELL?
janitha
01-12-2007, 01:45 PM
Is Dell LCDs are really that good....i have seen on the web that people owns 32" or more supporting 2650X2048....somewhat resolution!
What is the price for 19" Wide screen DELL?
From what I know through forums, they are very good and their support and service is even better. In a popular "GO" in a forum 19" wide Dell was offered for about 10K with a 5 year warranty.
satyamy
01-12-2007, 02:18 PM
@satyamy
go for second. ull get a gud deal @ 2~3k w/o monitor.
i already have a second hand
but need to build a new one
so need suggestion
keith_j_snyder2
01-12-2007, 03:06 PM
From what I know through forums, they are very good and their support and service is even better. In a popular "GO" in a forum 19" wide Dell was offered for about 10K with a 5 year warranty.
No Kidding!! If dell is so great then why people run for crappier brands!
Does DELL has a showroom in NEW DELHI?
Viewsonic is the hot deal nowdays but ever since the 19" 1932WM shows errors, its going down.
Can someone post the price for 17", 19", 20" and 22" prices?
dOm1naTOr
01-12-2007, 05:06 PM
@janitha
but id their site, 19''wide DVI costs 15k+ with 3y warranty nd 16k+ for 5yr warranty.
arun_chennai
01-12-2007, 10:09 PM
i already have a second hand
but need to build a new one
so need suggestion
CPU -Celeron 1.6GHZ -1400
MB -Any 945 -2200
HDD -250GB SATA -2600
RAM -Transcend 1GB -900
Moniter -15" CRT -3000
Cabinet -with SMPS -900
KB & Mouse - -500
UPS -Any -1400
DVD -Sony -1200
==========================
Total -14k :)
==========================
satyamy
01-12-2007, 10:15 PM
CPU -Celeron 1.6GHZ -1400
Total -14k :)
==========================
Thanks :)
varunprabhakar
01-12-2007, 10:48 PM
CPU -Celeron 1.6GHZ -1400
MB -Any 945 -2200
wont this b a better option:
AMD Sempron 3200+ AM2 @ Rs. 1100 /- + TAX
BIOSTAR / ASUS / MSI (K9MM-V) VIA Chipset based board supporting 4 SATA @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
tgpraveen
01-12-2007, 11:57 PM
pls start a similar thread which selects the best laptops at good price and also
best configs of dell lappies
this is reqd as many r considering these days to buy lappies.
laptops FTW!
Orionz
02-12-2007, 12:27 AM
Hi Guys
I am trying to make my way in Gaming,But due to low hardware system resource
i am unable to play most of games frm 2004. i have not played even a single PC games from 2005.[demos in digital passion not talkin abt freeware other little games on digit DVD]
[Frm 2004 i am Having Celeron 2.0Ghz,376mb of ram,n intel's D845GLAD mobo,n i think it does not support for any Vertex and Pixel shader)]
So, i want to make a machine that may capable of playing latest n upcoming games with onboard Graphics. N Guys i definitely want to switch to AMD Platform.(as i heard that it is good for gaming in someways)...
**I am not a hardcore gamer just want to play games at decent speed.n good graphics.
Suggest me good Config For It.
Budget 7 to 8k[CPU+MOBO] i think it is enuf for it?? some more bucks cant make prob.
Pls help guys....
varunprabhakar
02-12-2007, 12:45 AM
i think amd4400+ and asus m2avm will b a gud buy at around 7k
dOm1naTOr
02-12-2007, 01:03 AM
@Orionz
AMD Athlon X2 4000+ with MSI K9N GM2 for 2.6k nd 2.4k
Nvidia 8400GT GFX card: 3k
Orionz
02-12-2007, 01:04 AM
i think amd4400+ and asus m2avm will b a gud buy at around 7k
Understand abt the mobo
is it naa
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1568&l1=3&l2=101&l3=496
how much VRAM IT has..... Dont forget abt Pixel n vertex Shader.
Currently they are ver 3.0 n in next some time 4.0 will hit...
but donnu anything abt AMD Cpus
what is and4400+...
any official specification link..
goobimama
02-12-2007, 01:12 AM
Okay guys. I need a brand new system, but budget is around 22-24k. What should I do?
Things I want:
A decent processor, but nothing too speedy. Has to be cool and quiet.
A good quality motherboard. No overclocking features, just has to have rock solid stability and some 2-3 year warranty.
LCD display
keith_j_snyder2
02-12-2007, 03:08 AM
If it is no overclocking then its gotta be AMD!
But still i insist on waiting till January becoz at that time there will be AMDs K10 Dual Cores and Tri-cores in the market!
But if u want to wait then u can see the first page of this thread which gets updated almost everyday!
arun_chennai
02-12-2007, 08:46 AM
If it is no overclocking then its gotta be AMD!
But still i insist on waiting till January becoz at that time there will be AMDs K10 Dual Cores and Tri-cores in the market!
But if u want to wait then u can see the first page of this thread which gets updated almost everyday!
There is No (Virtually) improvement in K10 over the K8 ..so there is no point in going for k10dual cores....:mad::mad:
Hi Guys
I am trying to make my way in Gaming,But due to low hardware system resource
i am unable to play most of games frm 2004. i have not played even a single PC games from 2005.[demos in digital passion not talkin abt freeware other little games on digit DVD]
[Frm 2004 i am Having Celeron 2.0Ghz,376mb of ram,n intel's D845GLAD mobo,n i think it does not support for any Vertex and Pixel shader)]
So, i want to make a machine that may capable of playing latest n upcoming games with onboard Graphics. N Guys i definitely want to switch to AMD Platform.(as i heard that it is good for gaming in someways)...
**I am not a hardcore gamer just want to play games at decent speed.n good graphics.
Suggest me good Config For It.
Budget 7 to 8k[CPU+MOBO] i think it is enuf for it?? some more bucks cant make prob.
Pls help guys....
Intel E4500 ==> 4.8k
Biostar 7050==> 3.2k
Total 8k
In stock it is equivalent to X2 5200...but if u slightly overclock...it will kill any AMD offering....:D
Choto Cheeta
02-12-2007, 11:09 AM
@goobimama
Do you need a full system means incl;uding display / UPS / spk or u just the need the CPU (Procy + Mobo + RAM + grfx + etc) ??
and please do specify the needs and purpose for the system as that helps to locate and compile best products for the job..
thnx...
Orionz
02-12-2007, 11:39 AM
Thanx to all who replied.But guys i will like to switch AMD platform.N overclocking no way man..............atleast never done before this. Hope u can better compile .a combo for me....final budget is 9k for mobo+cpu posting frm netfront 3 so post may not be formatted correctley.
mukherjee
02-12-2007, 12:15 PM
Hey friends....
I m gonna buy a new LCD TFT Monitor.
First my requirements:
1.17" LCD TFT(Widescreen +/-)
2.Primary Use: Gaming n Movies
3.Speakers:No such requirement(+/-)
4.Budget:12k, max 15k
Well, i'hv don a bit of research n zeroed in on the following:
1.Viewsonic VG1932WM(No VX series,coz they suck)
2.Asus PG191(?:o)
3.LG 194WT(yes i kno its 19")
Now plz give me a suggestion guyz....I need it quick...gonna buy within nxt 2 weeks!
satyamy
02-12-2007, 01:10 PM
Hey friends....
...........
Now plz give me a suggestion guyz....I need it quick...gonna buy within nxt 2 weeks!
You can get a Very Good 19" LCD in 12K
You can go for Dell Monitors or LG One they are Really Good
have a look at the Latest Thread on LCD which has 22" Dell E228WFP recommend by Choto_Cheeta
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71883
You can even get 19" Viewsonic LCD in 11.5K
For Eg : http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcddisplays/proseries/vp930b/
goobimama
02-12-2007, 01:21 PM
I need a full system down to the UPS. That includes, CPU, mobo, RAM, HDD, cabby, SMPS, DVD writer, mouse keyboard, monitor.
I guess I can figure out the rest, I just want to know which motherboard and CPU I should go in for.
vivekbabbudelhi
02-12-2007, 01:22 PM
ok...i see a lot of people here looking for a 19" LCD
only 19"LCD that i can think is DELL SE198WFP......its lotta better than current samsung analogs(non BW) or value viewsonic crap or some LG stuff (WT & WS)
TRUST ME its not only hardware but also aftersales support that should really influence buying decisions.......& DELL SUPPORT ROCKS:):)
and one thing more do learn to negotiate with DELL........btw. i ordered a DELL SE198WFP(3yrs warranty) for a cousin for RS 10,300/- inc tax & delivery here in DELHI just 6 days back!!:)
goobimama
02-12-2007, 01:23 PM
The use of the system is basic office work. Word, excel, a little bit of indesign.
vivekbabbudelhi
02-12-2007, 01:27 PM
^^ basic office work then i can think of power efficiency
i think it should be a SEMPRON LE 1100(45W TDP) with a ASUS M2A VM
Musicmaker23
02-12-2007, 04:01 PM
i'm looking to configure myself a desktop soon..
work criteria: create spread sheets, video, download, & moderate gaming (MUST BE CAPABLE OF HANDLING VISTA LIKE A COMP-EQUIVALENT OF SUPERMAN)
i'm never keen on upgrading my pc & appreciate having the best at the time that'll last me for at least 2.5 years without hassle..
budget: 40-55 k for the cpu alone
can u plz help me out with a cool intel config?? (plz mention the newest HD DVDROM)
I was considering Quad core as some of their prices were recently slashed..
thanks in advance
Tech_Wiz
02-12-2007, 04:22 PM
In 55 k you can totally get a rocking PC [And you have that Budget for CPU Alone? or CPU = Dabba you wanted to say??]
Well Intel C2Q 6600 + Asus or Gigabyte Mobo + 4 GB DDR II 800 Mhz + 320 GB SATA II HDD with 16 MB Buffer + 8800 GT + 19" LCD will fit in that 55K with ease :D
That Config can Run Vista to the Max Setts @ Max Color, Max Res whatever you dreamed of.
For gaming this can run 95% of games at Settings maxed out. Only Latest 10.x DirectX based games @ High Setts may cause probs due to gfx bottleneck.
All parts will come with 3 Years Warranty atleast. [proccy is it 1 or 3 year?]
+ Add W/e HD DVD Rom you want to [I got no idea abt exact price]
http://www.theitwares.com and check for Prices of these
keith_j_snyder2
02-12-2007, 10:37 PM
There is No (Virtually) improvement in K10 over the K8 ..so there is no point in going for k10dual cores....:mad::mad:
Firstly they are native quad cores and secondly they have bigger FSB and absolutely they will are better performer than the good ol' X2 Athlons!
dOm1naTOr
02-12-2007, 11:22 PM
@Orionz
If u want AMD then,
AMD Athlon X2 5200+ 5k
Asus M2A VM 3.2k
X2 5200+ 2.6Ghz and has 2MB L2 cache.
ArZuNeOs
03-12-2007, 08:15 AM
@ Choto & Others
I have a very ol Pc...Acer Pentium 166Mhz with 192Mb Ram & 20GB HDD....da 20 gb went kaput....
Can i Add 1 40 gb HDD....Even if it restricts space of HDD.... its okay....or is there any way to Use large size HDD on it....