Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[Pathik]

IF he can give 10k then rather get the asus p5n 32 sli... it has the 680i chipset...
if u want a budget solution.. get the asus p5ne sli...

[naveen_reloaded]

Guys help of also.as i have mentioned above in my prev post.i am now having two minds to go in for core 2 duo..system or its counter part in AMD . I also want to know some very good mobo's as i will not be able to update this system grossly later.so i am looking for b mobo with good support for ram,atleast four slots,sata 2 with adequate pins to connect harddisk later on and also sli...please suggest few good mobo both for AMD and intel and also for core 2 duo,core duo,and its amd counterpart.

Another thing.what is the difference between core 2 duo and core duo?how much performance increase can we expect between these two..?my budget may be upto 10k.
Waiting for ur reply guys.

[entrana]

choto bhai what to go for, msi 8800gts 320mb or xfx8800 gts 320mb according to digit review msi one is the best

[spartacus]

Hey guys , i am new to this forum . i am going to buy a new system within a few days . having finalized everything after viewing the posts made in these threads , i am stuck at 1 point . i am going with c2d E4400 . so need some suggestion regarding buying a mobo . i want a mobo with onboard graphics . my vendor has suggested me Asus P5BVM

should i go with his suggestion ??
my budget for mobo is around 7000 rs ............

[naveen_reloaded]

Guys help of also.as i have mentioned above in my prev post.i am now having two minds to go in for core 2 duo..system or its counter part in AMD . I also want to know some very good mobo's as i will not be able to update this system grossly later.so i am looking for b mobo with good support for ram,atleast four slots,sata 2 with adequate pins to connect harddisk later on and also sli...please suggest few good mobo both for AMD and intel and also for core 2 duo,core duo,and its amd counterpart.

Another thing.what is the difference between core 2 duo and core duo?how much performance increase can we expect between these two..?my budget may be upto 10k.
Waiting for ur reply guys.
please guys reply some one...

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^hmm...Dude forget AMD.I really mean just forget AMD.Intel is miles ahead of AMD as of now.
At 10k for mobo+processor combo you have several choices:
1.E 2140--3k
XFX 650i ultra--5k(no onboard graphics)
2.E4400--5.5k
XFX 650i Ultra--5k

I think 2nd option should be the best for you.Both e2140 and e4400 oces great and are great value for money.

Since you stressed on a good mobo 650i ultra by XFX is the best choice for you but it has no onboard graphics(as a matter of fact no good mobo has ondoard graphics) so you will need to buy a graphic card if you don't haf any now.any cheapo will do like 7100,7300 or 8400gs.

[naveen_reloaded]

^^hmm...Dude forget AMD.I really mean just forget AMD.Intel is miles ahead of AMD as of now.
At 10k for mobo+processor combo you have several choices:
1.E 2140--3k
XFX 650i ultra--5k(no onboard graphics)
2.E4400--5.5k
XFX 650i Ultra--5k

I think 2nd option should be the best for you.Both e2140 and e4400 oces great and are great value for money.

Since you stressed on a good mobo 650i ultra by XFX is the best choice for you but it has no onboard graphics(as a matter of fact no good mobo has ondoard graphics) so you will need to buy a graphic card if you don't haf any now.any cheapo will do like 7100,7300 or 8400gs.

thnks for the reply first ..
i have geforce 6200 tc from my prev system

i am planning to geta system which wont be changed for say next 2-3 years..
so i am planning to invest in core 2 duo..

wht i mentioned is mobo only within 10k..
my budget is around 25k for the system without monitor , mouse , keyboard and gfx card..

can u workout a good system with really good platform..
shall i go for core 2 duo or just stay with duo core..

man i am confused..
please do help me ..
propably i have a week time before i have give my SPECIFICATION .. i mean REAL specification including the model number and all details to my assembler..

so please do help me

[The_Devil_Himself]

ok budget-25k
whats needed-Proccy,mobo,hdd.RAM,G.card(i think you need an upgrade over 6200tc.

Is that it?

[Choto Cheeta]

^^^

The system is only for Downloading right ??

then few things you need to consider :p a Stable platform :p heat issue and off course the power bills...

Adding a GRFX Card will mean extyra power and heat !!

Here is what I would recomend for a Seeder Box type system under Rs. 25k...

AMD X2 4000+ @ Rs. 2800
MSI K9AMG2 @ Rs. 2450
320 GB x 2 HDD 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 6400
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 3600
A large well ventilated Cabinet with Few FANs and 500 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 2500

TAX @ 4% Kolkata Rs. 710

Total Rs. 18460/-

for a Seeder box type system no need for a DVD RW :p as put that in LAN with your main system and transfer files when needed.... now you have still Rs. 6.5k left, intest that full in a better and heavy duty UPS for higher backup time for your seeder box and the modem/switch !!!

System is future proof will be able to run Vista with ease :p ... I would also suggest buy Kaspersky 7.0 for maximum protection of DATA !!! put KAV on highest of its settings !!!

Thank you...

[spartacus]

i am not much into oc , so would Asus P5BVM would be a good choice ??
it has p965g chipset & x3000 gma onboard graphics solution ...

[Choto Cheeta]

@spartacus

Its P5K-Vm you should look for :) it is replacement for P5B-VM, which is GMA x3000 under G965 platform where as the new P5K-VM is Rs. 7200/- comes with G33 platform with GMA x3100...

Thnx.,..

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^wb choto cheeta.(how were the exams?)

He said this system is no longer just for downloading since he has increased the budget.Now he wants to Play online games on it.

Edit:naveen's system.^^

[Choto Cheeta]

@bhaskar

No my frnd :p if you are talking about P5N-E SLi them sorry its one the board you would think to run under SLI and it cant run both cards at 16x mode so when under SLI both card will run at 8x mode !!!


and there is no need to run 8600 GT under SLi :p no real performance you would get out of it...

rather buy XFX 650i Ultra Rs. 4800/- with XFX 8800 GTS which around Rs. 14k :) that would performe far better than 2 x 8600 GT with a 650i SLI chipset board like P5N-E Sli...

thank you..

^^wb choto cheeta.(how were the exams?)

well exam is still not over... :p just droped by as from tomorrow will be completelly offline for a quite a few days :lol:

anyway what was his innitial budget for a Seeder box ??

[naveen_reloaded]

ok budget-25k
whats needed-Proccy,mobo,hdd.RAM,G.card(i think you need an upgrade over 6200tc.

Is that it?

no i am going to use the 6200 tc which is a pcie compatible one ... this gfx is actually from my gaming system for which only i bought 6800 GT a week before with all ur help guys ...
so the deal is why waste that card..

so gona use it for this new rig ...

i am not too much into gaming with this one ... so this should do the work i think..

[The_Devil_Himself]

@choto cheeta:here are his earlier posts
guys i need a suggestion ..

i am going to build a system say for download mainly for torrent ..

wht shall i go for ??
intel or AMD ??
i heard AMD gets heated soon ..
since i may have to run the system for long .. loooooong hours ..can anyone suggest a system which is under 20-23 k , excluding monitor, keyboard, dvd drive , mouse , speaker.. and gfx cardI have geforce 6200tc supporting 256...
Now since by budget has good slightly up after few saving i am planning to put in a rig to play ONLINE GAMES.i haven tried it.
I dont know whether it can be done with a 256 kbps connection!
I want to play ONLINE games like cs ,secondlife ,i dont know whether we can play in india?i was just thinking of.
And guys suggest a core 2 duo system also...
Since the only thing i found which cant be updated later is processor.so i am having second thought of going for core 2 duo system..
And also a nice mobo.B-)
Each time i think i go one step further...sh!t
Why cant systems be like TV ,buy them, forget them for a solid 5-8 years.:'(:'(:@

[spartacus]

@spartacus

Its P5K-Vm you should look for :) it is replacement for P5B-VM, which is GMA x3000 under G965 platform where as the new P5K-VM is Rs. 7200/- comes with G33 platform with GMA x3100...

Thnx.,..
i searched on wikipedia , where it says that gma 3100 's 3d core is similar to older gma 950 where as x3000 is something new .........

here is the link :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA

[naveen_reloaded]

^^^

The system is only for Downloading right ??

then few things you need to consider :p a Stable platform :p heat issue and off course the power bills...

Adding a GRFX Card will mean extyra power and heat !!

Here is what I would recomend for a Seeder Box type system under Rs. 25k...

AMD X2 4000+ @ Rs. 2800
MSI K9AMG2 @ Rs. 2450
320 GB x 2 HDD 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 6400
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 3600
A large well ventilated Cabinet with Few FANs and 500 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 2500

TAX @ 4% Kolkata Rs. 710

Total Rs. 18460/-

for a Seeder box type system no need for a DVD RW :p as put that in LAN with your main system and transfer files when needed.... now you have still Rs. 6.5k left, intest that full in a better and heavy duty UPS for higher backup time for your seeder box and the modem/switch !!!

System is future proof will be able to run Vista with ease :p ... I would also suggest buy Kaspersky 7.0 for maximum protection of DATA !!! put KAV on highest of its settings !!!

Thank you...

man really thnks for the config...

really thnks ..

can u also give a rig with c2d ... just curiuos ..want to run vista ultimate....

:-)) :-) ;-)

why to go for two hard disk when 320 gb is available @ 3200???

[Choto Cheeta]

^^^

Give a sencod thought as Devil said :p... please clear me out there... you already have a running system with 6800 GT for gaming purpose !! right ?? then I would suggest some thing else...

like this bellow,

Setup a simple home network naa :p in that case you can operate the Second Seeder Box system without any Display under Remote desktop :p

AMD X2 4000 @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX
MSI K9AMG2 @ Rs. 2450/- + TAX
320 GB HDD 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 3200/- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1650/- + TAX
A large well ventilated Cabinet with Few FANs and 500 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 2500/- + TAX

Total Rs. 13104/- incl 4% VAT

how ever u will neev Keyboard Mouse for boot up related issue and trouble shoot if any !! :p

So, Rs. 350/- for local made keyboard and mouse any cheap will do.. :p

Now Buy one 4 Port swicth which is Around Rs. 600 incl TAX

Setup lan between your main system and this one :p ...

P.S. forgot to add :p Run Windows XP instade of Vista :p no need for Vista in this system...

[naveen_reloaded]

^^^

Give a sencod thought as Devil said :p... please clear me out there... you already have a running system with 6800 GT for gaming purpose !! right ?? then I would suggest some thing else...

like this bellow,

Setup a simple home network naa :p in that case you can operate the Second Seeder Box system without any Display under Remote desktop :p

AMD X2 4000 @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX
MSI K9AMG2 @ Rs. 2450/- + TAX
320 GB HDD 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 3200/- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1650/- + TAX
A large well ventilated Cabinet with Few FANs and 500 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 2500/- + TAX

Total Rs. 13104/- incl 4% VAT

how ever u will neev Keyboard Mouse for boot up related issue and trouble shoot if any !! :p

So, Rs. 350/- for local made keyboard and mouse any cheap will do.. :p






Now Buy one 4 Port swicth which is Around Rs. 600 incl TAX

Setup lan between your main system and this one :p ...

P.S. forgot to add :p Run Windows XP instade of Vista :p no need for Vista in this system...


the two system are 450 km far guys.... :-)
lets say one in my home and another in my grandma`s house...

so please suggest as if a new system is built //

and why buys keyboard and mouse.. i dont get u..

my budget is 25 k guys .. so play with it ... no problem..

coz as far amd is concern .. it sends me a creep ...along spine .. idont know why .. but if u guys say its good i will surely go with it blindly..

but since in near future i may install vista ultimate..
will this system will be able handle REALLY GOOD ??? thats my point ..

and guys wht is the diff between core duo and C2D??

OFF TOPIC :

why is there a spike in the download speed at the initial start of the download ..???

why cant it sustain that speed ....

[Choto Cheeta]

@naveen_reloaded

I didnt get my answer !!

Give a sencod thought as Devil said ... please clear me out there... you already have a running system with 6800 GT for gaming purpose !! right ?? then I would suggest some thing else...

What is the exact need for the system ?? Downloading and seeding later on isnt it ??? !!!

anyway, it will b you would run and buy and use the system so cant really force you for any setup, what I can do is only suggest few option which I would personally feel good for you... but once again its you who would spend your hard earn money (or is it ??) for the purpose...

and for a 25k system I have already given my suggestion for the need you have specified...

and guys wht is the diff between core duo and C2D??

For information, Core Duo is not a Desktop range !!!

also take a look at here, http://www.chotocheeta.com/2007/09/01/difference-between-intel-core-2-duo-vs-intel-dual-core-vs-intel-pentium-d/

and why buys keyboard and mouse.. i dont get u..

side by side 2 desktop with one single monitor, well not a problem :p as you can plug and un-plug when needed.... but personally i have felt that plging and un-pluging all 3 is really a pain in the ass... :lol:

[The_Devil_Himself]

@naveen:bro the main use of system is still not clear.Just for downloading or downloading+gaming.The one suggested by saurav sir is just for downloading.It will run cool,consume less power and most of all is pretty cheap.ok.
Now the configuration will vary if you want to play games on it.I mean if you wanna play second life or cs:s then you will need something better.

So state your main purpose.

@choto cheeta:are you sure about the price of 320gb hd?I am also purchasing 250gb but i think i wil buy 320gb if it costs just 3200.

[naveen_reloaded]

@naveen_reloaded

I didnt get my answer !!



What is the exact need for the system ?? Downloading and seeding later on isnt it ??? !!!

anyway, it will you would run and buy and use the system so cant really force you for any setup, what I can do is only suggest few option which I would personally feel good for you... but once again its you who would spend your hard earn money (or is it ??) for the purpose...

and for a 25k system I have already given my suggestion for the need you have specified...



For information, Core Duo is not a Desktop range !!!

also take a look at here, http://www.chotocheeta.com/2007/09/01/difference-between-intel-core-2-duo-vs-intel-dual-core-vs-intel-pentium-d/





side by side 2 desktop with one single monitor, well not a problem :p as you can plug and un-plug when needed.... but personally i have felt that plging and un-pluging all 3 is really a pain in the ass... :lol:




i have this gaming rig in place and this new system in another place...
yes i am mainly for downloads ... the system should be stable for long hours so thouht intel would be good
secondly since i upgraded my gaming rig ..the old gfx card became useless and was about to sell... but thought of usingit with the system which i am going to buy next week..

i think i cleared ur doubt...
and thnks for the link ..
will u now suggest a rig mate..
sorry for going too deep... want to put some good money in a good system... thts y ..

anyway thnks for all the replies...

[Choto Cheeta]

6200 is a really worth less card right now :( and as u upgraded to 6800 GT i really asume that 6200 that which you have is one AGP interface :lol: so really on chance of finding a AGP based board...

and even you had PCI-E Inteface 6200, then still face this Vista will rate 6200 as 2.0 in grfx status :p just enough to run Areo :lol: where as in case of Onboard AMD 690V (ATi X1200) of MSI K9AGM2 vista will rate it as 3.1 / 3.0 grfx :p

even in real life performance it is better than 6200 :lol:

i have this gaming rig in place and this new system in another place...


I am still confuse :lol: both system will be in same Home right ??

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^nahin.ok let me tell you what i have gained so far.He has a PC which he says is his gaming PC but he cannot access internet from this PC.
Now he wants to have another PC(25k) for accessing net and downloading.He also wants to play some lightweight online games like cs1.6.He has spare monitor,keyboard et al.SO he just needs processor+motherboard+RAM+HDD for 25k and he want to spend 25k(means he dont want to save money).

I hope it is clear now.

@choto cheeta:are you sure 320gb hd is available for Rs,.3200?

[Choto Cheeta]

@The_Devil_Himself

yes Brother :D it is Rs. 3200/- + TAX Kolkata Price for 320 GB !!! cant really comment what would cost at event horizon :lol:

and thnx for clearing it up for the system config for Naveen :lol:...

anyway,

@Naveen

I already said... !!! Both needs are also quite different like Gaming and a Seeder box... !!! the rule for both are also different... one is ment power saving and Data Storage :p where as one is power hugnry monster :lol:

anyway,

I would still stand by the 18k config !!! AMD 4000 is a good performer with value for money and it will allow you option for a value for money motherboard... which is MSI K9AMG2 comes with AMD 690V with onboard ATi x1200/x1250 which is better than 6200 anyday and will allow some light gaming without any issue...

:D

[Akhil Jain]

hello i have asrock mobo having model P4i45GV R5.0
which is based on intel 845gv chipset
currently i have 2.0 ghz processor(oc to 2.26 ghz) @ 400 mhz fsb
2 * 1 gb ram sticks (266 mhz)
palit AGP 8x nvidia geforce mx 4000
400 w smps without molex connector

i want to invest in 6600 or 6800 based card
plz suggest a one suitable for me
give its brand name , model no. and availability at nehru place delhi with price
thx

[Choto Cheeta]

^^^

opss... 6xxx cards are really hard to come by these days :( how ever I think BGalaxy still have 6800 in market in AGP interface... :) do check that out...

[The_Devil_Himself]

yes Brother it is Rs. 3200/- + TAX Kolkata Price for 320 GB !!! cant really comment what would cost at event horizon
Hmm..if Kolkata price is 3200 then it should be even lower at event horizon.lol.
I am from delhi.I will buy this on monday or tuesday.Thanks a lot.

[naveen_reloaded]

^^nahin.ok let me tell you what i have gained so far.He has a PC which he says is his gaming PC but he cannot access internet from this PC.
Now he wants to have another PC(25k) for accessing net and downloading.He also wants to play some lightweight online games like cs1.6.He has spare monitor,keyboard et al.SO he just needs processor+motherboard+RAM+HDD for 25k and he want to spend 25k(means he dont want to save money).

I hope it is clear now.

@choto cheeta:are you sure 320gb hd is available for Rs,.3200?


u read my mind devil..
guys then suggest a gfx card also..one good for vista ultimate but also wthin the budget..

ooooooooo....i keep thinking hard.. land up somewhere...????

[The_Devil_Himself]

8600gt--6.5k

perfect I mean 18k+6.5k=24.5k.just fits your budget.

[naveen_reloaded]

8600gt--6.5k

perfect I mean 18k+6.5k=24.5k.just fits your budget. wow... it does rightly fit..


man .. i do wish one rig config with intel.. can u suggest one for me ???
just curiuos ;-)

[The_Devil_Himself]

ok this should be good enough for you:

Intel e4400---5.5k
XFX 650i ultra---5k
2gb transcend ddr2 RAM @ 667mhz--2.4k
2x320gb hd in raid config---6.5k
XFX 8600gt 256mb ddr3---6.5k

Down points of this system(over config suggested by choto cheeta):
1.It is a power hog.IT will consume a lot of power so higher power bills if you use it for long stretches everyday(i.e. for downloading)
2.costlier

+ points:
:can play most latest games at decent settings(thats what makes it power hungry)


So basically its your call buddy.Or take my suggestion use the above system as your gaming machine and your current one as downloading centre.
But please do consult with choto cheeta before making any final decision.


regards.

[naveen_reloaded]

thnks devil..

is xfx mobo available easily??

heard asus mobo come with good cooling technique..??
if so can u suggest one??

really thks man...

if rep systwm is present ... i would have repped u mate..
but i have a suprise 4 u .. check ur pm...

[The_Devil_Himself]

lol thanks for the surprise but sadly i have a limited b.band connection.

Asus mobo:P5B-VM:it has onboard graphics(confirm yourself)

And yes XFX mobos are easily available at all Rashi outlets.

[naveen_reloaded]

^^^ ok will confirmm.

[entrana]

choto bhai please help me what to go for, msi or xfx 8800gts 320mb

[naveen_reloaded]

XFX is really good mate ^^ performance is better

[entrana]

but digit magazine this month, shows that msi one is better, and they also are giving away company of heroes!

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^There is a hardly measurable performance difference since both brands are good, but consider price and after sale service.
BFG and EVGA are quality brands are cheaper than XFX but they don't have any distributer in India, so its all the matter of price and services.

[entrana]

ok so does msi has good after sales service? i seriously want that company of heroes

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^dude every XFX card(8600+8800) is now shipping with free COH and the after sales service of XFX is unmatchable.Hurry up before the offer ends.

[keith_j_snyder2]

He is right.
XFX is known for graphics cards since from a long. It even compared itself with EVGA and BFG and some people says XFX is even better than the two.
Rashi Peripherals owns the distribution in India.
Also liek he has already mentioned about the game COH and also Lost Planet, XFX is giving these 2 games with their cards.
Although MSI is not bad but i have a bad experience with MSI.... still i own a MSI motherboard!

XFX will be my pick!

[entrana]

okay but i though lost planet was exclusive to 8800 and coh exclusive to 8600, could u guys make me clear, and which GRAPHIC CARD is actually BETTER

[bikdel]

Hey CHOTO.... glad u r back...

i read ur opening post (first one in the thread)

u mentioned a TV tuner Card from Pinnacle for 2100

I have one analog video camera with composite and S-video output.
will the card help me record from it in good quality?

I followed the product url but couldnt figure out which one u had used...

This is my initial post, pls read it
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=628209&postcount=746

thnx

[nd4spd]

i want to buy
1) DVD writer
2) UPS 600VA
suggest me which one to go for cause i have heard that sony's dvd writer (190c) is not good, i was told that sony's DVD writer DRU-830A is very good.
please give me also price also of Lamington.

[prunthaban]

i want to buy
1) DVD writer
2) UPS 600VA
suggest me which one to go for cause i have heard that sony's dvd writer (190c) is not good, i was told that sony's DVD writer DRU-830A is very good.
please give me also price also of Lamington.
For DVD Writer I always suggest Liteon drives. They are the best.

For UPS, if you have money got for APC Smart series. If you don't have... well anything else will do.

I am planning to purchase a high end pc for gaming. I also run applications like VS 2005 and SQL Server 2005 as part of my work. So a 'pure gaming' pc is not the one I am looking forward to.

With my limited h/w knowledge I have come out with a config. I need some advise from h/w gurus.

Here is the config.

Processor - Intel Quad Core Q6600
-I know many people prefer a dual core to quad core. But I am strong believer that in future most application will be capable of using all four cores. Also Vista is capable of splitting instructions intelligently across cores.

Motherboard - Asus P5K-C
-Motherboard is still one area where I have very less knowledge. Let me explain why I want to go for P5K-C. It supports 45nm procs (Penryn). So I can upgrade my proc later. It supports DDR3 RAM. So this MB looks like future proof.
If you can give me some suggestion of good MBs from other manufacturers with 45nm support, it is welcome. I don't want an SLI board by the way.

RAM - Kingston HyperX KHX6400 2 * 1GB PC2-6400
I would have gone for Corsair Dominator. But I heard Corsair is good only for Over clocker and I am a strict 'No overclocking' guy. So I think the Kingston will perform equal to Corsair. Am I correct? Remember Kingston costs 10.5K whereas Corsair costs 16K.

Speakers - Logitech - Z2300
I don't have place to fit 5.1 speakers. So I prefer stereo. I saw the review on CHIP-October. It says the Logitech Z-4 is the best. If I can get it I will buy it. If not Z2300 is the choice.

Cabinet - Antec 900 or Cooler Master Stacker
I need good cooling solution.

Power Supply - Corsair CMPSU 620 HX Modular
This seems to be the best out there.

UPS - APC Smart Series 750 VA
If smart series is not available I may go with APC 1 KVA. Is it fine?

Keyboard - Logitech G15
Nothing can beat this :-)

Mouse - Logitech MX518
I saw G5, G7 and G9 mice too. G9 looks crappy. G5 is good. But I heard MX128 performs better for the cost.

Monitor - Viewsonic 22"
The only available 22" monitor in Chennai.

Graphics Card - XFX 8800 GTX
Yummy. yummy.

My dilemmas,
1. Whether to go for Corsair or Kingston (Corsair is 5.5K more for 2GB)
2. Whether to get Q6700 (It is 11K more than Q6600 but the clock speed increase is only 0.22 GHz). But I DON'T overclock. So Q6700 might worth the price.
3. Which motherboard (<10K) is best for my requirement?
4. Which cabinet to go for?
5. Last but not least. Shall I got for XFX 8800 Ultra? It is the best card in the planet as of now and I am tempted to buy it.

Any suggestions welcome :-)

[entrana]

dude u can afford that!!!!!!! ?

[prunthaban]

dude u can afford that!!!!!!! ?
Yep. I can :D

[Hells_Fury]

^^Youre here too? :P

[keith_j_snyder2]

okay but i though lost planet was exclusive to 8800 and coh exclusive to 8600, could u guys make me clear, and which GRAPHIC CARD is actually BETTER

Nothing better than XFX!

Yep. I can :D

Lets start:
1. Processor: It should be a quad core because we are talking about future proofing. Overclock or not, its your option.

2. Memory: Try www.memoryc.com, where u can own an OCZ for almost half the price of Corsair or may be Kingston( Check the offer).

3. GPU: Ultra? Really?.....The GTX is really worthy enough and having fair P Vs P (Performance vs Price). So.... 8800GTX will be my choice.

4. Motherboard: Since now i was only in favor of ASUS STRIKER EXTREME or P5N 32 SLI....but this motherboard (P5K-c) is a deal.

4. Spend some more on PSU if u are buying GTX or Ultra and building a monster...like 750Watt PSU.

5. Cabinet: I 'de say.... COOLER MASTER....had a very good experience with Cavalier.

6. Try some liquid cooling for ur monster boy.

Rest of your system is rocking.....well the whole system is rocking!!!!!!!

[prunthaban]

^^Youre here too? :P
Hehe...

So you got to know my config ;)

You are using that Corsair 620W power supply. right? Let me know is it enough for me.

Nothing better than XFX!



Lets start:
1. Processor: It should be a quad core because we are talking about future proofing. Overclock or not, its your option.

2. Memory: Try www.memoryc.com (http://www.memoryc.com), where u can own an OCZ for almost half the price of Corsair or may be Kingston( Check the offer).

3. GPU: Ultra? Really?.....The GTX is really worthy enough and having fair P Vs P (Performance vs Price). So.... 8800GTX will be my choice.

4. Motherboard: Since now i was only in favor of ASUS STRIKER EXTREME or P5N 32 SLI....but this motherboard (P5K-c) is a deal.

4. Spend some more on PSU if u are buying GTX or Ultra and building a monster...like 750Watt PSU.

5. Cabinet: I 'de say.... COOLER MASTER....had a very good experience with Cavalier.

6. Try some liquid cooling for ur monster boy.

Rest of your system is rocking.....well the whole system is rocking!!!!!!!
Thanks for all the suggestions...

I agree with you on most of the stuff.

[Hells_Fury]

Well based on the fact that we have very similar configs I would say that the Corsair is more than enough.
As for your motherboard, why dont you buy a 650i motherboard for now? If you decide to go the DDR3 way later you can buy an X38 based mobo then. Since you do not plan on overclocking anyway, the 650i should be sufficient and its pretty cheap too.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Well based on the fact that we have very similar configs I would say that the Corsair is more than enough.
As for your motherboard, why dont you buy a 650i motherboard for now? If you decide to go the DDR3 way later you can buy an X38 based mobo then. Since you do not plan on overclocking anyway, the 650i should be sufficient and its pretty cheap too.
Are u saying its more than enough?
Well dude if u haven't seen the price difference......its 5000/- between Corsair and Kingston.Compared to them OCZ is really a good option and way less expensive!!!
The 650i motherboard is a good option but the P5K-C is really woth for 9500/-!!!!

[entrana]

honestly p5k-c is an overkill, u wouldnt need that thing now its not even fully optimized for it i would say its kind of like a beta you know u should consider p5ne sli right now unless u really wanna go for p5k-c
ocz brand is really really good and to be honest kingston, corsair, ocz doesnt really make a dam difference just get ddr2 1066mhz or ddr 1333mhz if ur getting that p5k-c

[keith_j_snyder2]

yeah he's right!
DDR2 and DDR3 aren't gonna make a big difference in performance. But in price.....wohhhh.....u can get 2 GB DDR2 fro the price of 512 MB DDR3 as for now and i m sure that this price will remain for a long time because there aren't even much graphics card with DDR4 RAM except 2600XT and 1950XTX....may be 2900XT but the price is what really matters.
Even if the price is not the big difference among the brands....my option will still be OCZ.

[prunthaban]

Are u saying its more than enough?
Well dude if u haven't seen the price difference......its 5000/- between Corsair and Kingston.Compared to them OCZ is really a good option and way less expensive!!!
The 650i motherboard is a good option but the P5K-C is really woth for 9500/-!!!!
I think you got him wrong. He is talking about the Corsair power supply (and not RAM).

honestly p5k-c is an overkill, u wouldnt need that thing now its not even fully optimized for it i would say its kind of like a beta you know u should consider p5ne sli right now unless u really wanna go for p5k-c
ocz brand is really really good and to be honest kingston, corsair, ocz doesnt really make a dam difference just get ddr2 1066mhz or ddr 1333mhz if ur getting that p5k-c
Ok. I think I will better go with 650i Ultra MB. But I am not sure whether 1066 MHz DDR2 is available (I could not find it listed in priceguru.in). I am not sure how costly it is. Does anyone know?

[entrana]

650i doesent suppor 1066mhz ddr2 only 800mhzddr2

[prunthaban]

650i doesent suppor 1066mhz ddr2 only 800mhzddr2
Yep:(

Now I wonder how come Hells_Fury has 1066 MHz RAM with P5N-E 32 SLI board! Even that motherboard does not suport 1066 MHz!!!

I have a few more doubts,

1. Will 2 * 8600 GT in SLI mode will give better performance than 8800 GTX? I don't think so. But just asking.

2. P5K-C has hell lot of new features with P35 chipset and it looks cheap for the price of 9.5K (Remember P5N-E SLI is 7.5K. But it does lacks many features). So why not P5K-C?

3. Why not 4 GB RAM? I am planning to use Vista ulimate. So will I require 4 GB?

[Hells_Fury]

Just because a motherboard doesnt officially support 1066 MHz RAM doesnt meant that it wont run it...The P5N32-E SLI officially only supports 800MHz, but that doesnt mean that higher speed RAMs wont run on it...
And yes i was talking about the Corsair PSU, not the memory.
No 2 X 8600GT wont give better performance than an 8800GTX.
Why do you want all the features of the P5K-C? What particular feature are you interested in?

[Tech_Wiz]

AMD 64 X2 4400+ @ Rs. 3800/-

1GB DDR-II 667MHz @ Rs. 1800/-

Asus M2N8- MX @ Rs. 2950

XFX 8600 GT @ Rs. 6800

This is what I am planning for my Dabba upgrade. I am on a shoe string 13-14K

Going to use all other things exising and sell the former parts stated above

Basically using for Moderate Gaming. Caeser IV and AoE III TAD etc

Is this good buy or I can get better ?

This Mobo has a built in Geforce 6xxx. Can I get a Mobo without a built in GPU so it will cost even lesser?

plz help

[prunthaban]

Just because a motherboard doesnt officially support 1066 MHz RAM doesnt meant that it wont run it...The P5N32-E SLI officially only supports 800MHz, but that doesnt mean that higher speed RAMs wont run on it...
And yes i was talking about the Corsair PSU, not the memory.
No 2 X 8600GT wont give better performance than an 8800GTX.
Why do you want all the features of the P5K-C? What particular feature are you interested in?

The same logic should apply to 650i MB too right? Will it run 1066 MHz RAM? I doubt the MotherBoard will not make full utilization of the RAM speed.
So I think I better settle down with 650i Ultra and Corsair 800MHz RAM (I seriously doubt the availability of 1066MHz RAM here).

[Hells_Fury]

If youre sticking with 800 MHz and dont want to OC, then go for 800 MHz Kingston itself. AFAIK 1066MHz RAM isnt available in India.

[entrana]

The same logic should apply to 650i MB too right? Will it run 1066 MHz RAM? I doubt the MotherBoard will not make full utilization of the RAM speed.
So I think I better settle down with 650i Ultra and Corsair 800MHz RAM (I seriously doubt the availability of 1066MHz RAM here).
good choice

[naveen_reloaded]

can any one give me the EXACT price of the following with tax, i am living in Çhèññäì ..so anyone from Çhèññäì or anyone knows the price exactly can help me.

1 gb Ddr2 667mhz
1 gb Ddr2 800mhz
Many here suggest to go for 667mhz ,why is it?is there a problem or compatibility issue in using 800mhz?
320 gb hard disk with 16 mb buffer.

XFX 8600 256 DDR3 (today i asked one shop,they said 6800 Rs including tax?but someone here said its now 6.2k...is it so?has the price in Çhèññäì haven come down?

Good well ventilated, 2 fan atleast cabinet with smps

E440 processor

Asus P5K ,is this the latest one or the asus P5B ?
And what is the difference in V AND VM in these mobo? And also the price?

Anyone who does know or have bought these recently can help me out.
I dont have much time as i have to give quotation within 2 days.so help me fast!
And one last question.
Is XFX 650 ultra a better performer than asus P5K OR P5B?
If possible denote whether tax is included or not...chota pls update your first post.

[prunthaban]

can any one give me the EXACT price of the following with tax, i am living in Çhèññäì ..so anyone from Çhèññäì or anyone knows the price exactly can help me.

1 gb Ddr2 667mhz
1 gb Ddr2 800mhz
Many here suggest to go for 667mhz ,why is it?is there a problem or compatibility issue in using 800mhz?
320 gb hard disk with 16 mb buffer.

XFX 8600 256 DDR3 (today i asked one shop,they said 6800 Rs including tax?but someone here said its now 6.2k...is it so?has the price in Çhèññäì haven come down?

Good well ventilated, 2 fan atleast cabinet with smps

E440 processor

Asus P5K ,is this the latest one or the asus P5B ?
And what is the difference in V AND VM in these mobo? And also the price?

Anyone who does know or have bought these recently can help me out.
I dont have much time as i have to give quotation within 2 days.so help me fast!
And one last question.
Is XFX 650 ultra a better performer than asus P5K OR P5B?
If possible denote whether tax is included or not...chota pls update your first post.
I am also from Chennai :-)
I buy stuffs from a shop called delta peripherals in richie street. They have a site where you can see price list (Check http://www.deltapage.com/)

Regarding 650i is better than P5K or P5B... Well.. even I am interested in knowing...

Why do you want to give quotation? Go to ricihie street and buy...

[keith_j_snyder2]

I think you got him wrong. He is talking about the Corsair power supply (and not RAM).
ohhh.....my bad!

Also if u are not going to overclock i suggest go for AMD. Its almost half of the power hungry Intel. Also in that case the Corsair(PSU) will be enough.
or
u can wait till 2nd half of November till u get Phenom processors if u really want a Quad core. But then also there will be Penryn core from Intel. Then u will be having a good option.

Although the mainstream Phenom will be available in January but u will get a fair idea about the Phenom and Penryn.

[vishal_2032]

I want help in building a pc( also tell me to change anything u feel)

processor- intel core 2 duo 2.66ghz E 6750- Rs.8000

ram - 2*1 gb zion ddr2 800mhz-2400*2=4800

hard disk- seagate 400gb sata- 4700

graphic card-- 256 mb asus EN 8600GT-7200(please tell me this card has tv output or not)

lcd monitor-- 19 inch wide screen LG -10000

please refer me a mother board with all the new features ( upto Rs. 12000)

1 should also support core 2 quad
2 fsb support 1333Mhz
3 Ram support- ddr3(1333 )
4 sata,raid,sli,hd audio,ethernet onboard,firewire etc
and also tell me other features


few of my choices are-
1 msi P35 platinum
2 msi 935 neo
3 intel DG975 XBX2
4 msi P6N SLI platinum D3
5 Msi K9N SLI Platinum
6 gigabyte -Ga-G33m-D52R

Please tell me oter options available and also evalute these mother boards with refference to features and price.


and also tell me should I wait for sometime as intel next line processors are due shortly?


I want every one of u to help me

You can also tell me other configurations for pc.

[entrana]

scrath ur ram and change it transcend, its cheaper and zion isnt good anyways. get the k9n sli platinum its pretty fine although i reccomend u get asus p5n32 e sli, because im pretty sure u dont want to spend 20k on ddr3 ram

[naveen_reloaded]

Guys i am waiting for some one to reply to my prev question.in
Deltapage i was not able to find price of what i want.
Please some one help me or atleast answer my other questions which are not price related.
Thanks in advance.

[gsenthil]

Hello Guys,

I am planning(finally!!!!) to dump my very old P4 system and get myself a new one... need ur expert help to get the rite config....

I need a good multimedia system. Would be primarily be using it for watching Dvds,HD content,Converting one video/audio format to an other, browsing...and very casual gaming....

I have the following config in mind.....help me understand the nitty gritties and remove any performance bottlenecks....

Budget ~ 45K (Can push it to 50K, if it is really worth it !!! )


Intel Core 2 Duo - E6750
Motherboard - Intel DG33 / XFX 650i ??
Ram 2*1 gb Transend - 800 Mhz (or will a 667 Mhz do? )
Hard disk- seagate 320 gb sata

lcd monitor - 19 inches Viewsonic or samsung ?? ( I need a one with a DVI Port and a widescreen one.....It should also do justice to HD Content !!! )
Is the Samsung 206Bw available in India ??

Dvd Writer - LG
UPS - APC
KB + MS - Logitech

TV tuner card - Pinnacle (Can anyone suggest a very good one here...This is Imp, as I would be doubling my comp as TV in my room.. :) )

Graphics Card - suggest a card, which is capable of Playing HD content very smoothly and should run windws Vista to max Potential....and some decent gaming...)

many thnx in advance !!!!


Cheers,
Senthil Gopalan

[ravi_9793]

Ram 2*1 gb Transend - 800 Mhz (or will a 667 Mhz do? )
88Mhz will give better performance

[/quote]
lcd monitor - 19 inches Viewsonic or samsung ?? ( I need a one with a DVI Port and a widescreen one.....It should also do justice to HD Content !!! )
Is the Samsung 206Bw available in India ??
[/quote]
Either go for LG or viewsonic.

[prunthaban]

Guys i am waiting for some one to reply to my prev question.in
Deltapage i was not able to find price of what i want.
Please some one help me or atleast answer my other questions which are not price related.
Thanks in advance.
Send delatapages a mail. You will get a reply on the same day itself! Thats what I did. For mailing address, you can find it in the page itself!

You can also call them.

I strongly suggest you to buy from Richie street and assemble (You can assemble it there itself for 250-400 rupees).

[naveen_reloaded]

^thanks man.
Really still confused.anyway planned to go straight there and buy and assemble.lets see.
Will post all the price here.
Ok one last question.
Will they reduce price than the one they showed on their web page?

[prunthaban]

^thanks man.
Really still confused.anyway planned to go straight there and buy and assemble.lets see.
Will post all the price here.
Ok one last question.
Will they reduce price than the one they showed on their web page?
Not bargaining... But due to daily price fluctuations you may find the actual price less/more by 100 to 200 rupees.

BTW I am going there this Saturday morning :-)

[gsenthil]

88Mhz will give better performance


lcd monitor - 19 inches Viewsonic or samsung ?? ( I need a one with a DVI Port and a widescreen one.....It should also do justice to HD Content !!! )
Is the Samsung 206Bw available in India ??
[/quote]
Either go for LG or viewsonic.[/QUOTE]

Can you give me the model nos ?

[naveen_reloaded]

Yes have to bargain.but dont think that they will budge with my bargain.they supply for the whole Çhèññäì.
If yöü know any insider please do ask the price and post in here.it will be very helpful.
And some one please answer my prev questions

[Tech_Wiz]

:( AMD 64 X2 4400+ @ Rs. 3800/-

1GB DDR-II 667MHz @ Rs. 1800/-

Asus M2N8- MX @ Rs. 2950

XFX 8600 GT @ Rs. 6800

This is what I am planning for my Dabba upgrade. I am on a shoe string 13-14K

Going to use all other things exising and sell the former parts stated above

Basically using for Moderate Gaming. Caeser IV and AoE III TAD etc

Is this good buy or I can get better ?

This Mobo has a built in Geforce 6xxx. Can I get a Mobo without a built in GPU so it will cost even lesser?

plz help

plz help. I am upgrading this month only.

[entrana]

i guess its fine

[keith_j_snyder2]

:(

plz help. I am upgrading this month only.


No u won't be getting any onboard graphics less motherboard in that price. The cheapest non-onboard graphics board is XFX 650i Ultra.

But this config. is real good....but there is an other option M2A-VM (AMD 690 based) but since u are buying a graphics card the M2N8-MX is all good.

[nd4spd]

lcd monitor - 19 inches Viewsonic or samsung ?? ( I need a one with a DVI Port and a widescreen one.....It should also do justice to HD Content !!! )
Is the Samsung 206Bw available in India ??

Either go for LG or viewsonic.[/QUOTE]

Can you give me the model nos ?[/QUOTE]


my friend has purchased viewsonic VA1912W at 9200Rs.
it give very very good viewing angle (as comparied to my 17" LG ) as well as it has DVI port.
i don't know about samsung, but viewsonic trully impresed me.

i want to buy DVD writer and UPS
1) DVD-W
but don't know which one to go for Samsung, sony, LG, LiteOn
PLEASE tell me which is better and its price also?

2) UPS
i don't want o purchase APC cause its too expencive and Intex cause its cheap
please suggest me any good UPS of mid range and its price.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Microtek UPS

DVD-RW : Go for the one which has a service center in ur city. I am using Lite-on DVD-RW and it s giving me sweet performance!

[ArZuNeOs]

Yes have to bargain.but dont think that they will budge with my bargain.they supply for the whole Çhèññäì.
If yöü know any insider please do ask the price and post in here.it will be very helpful.
And some one please answer my prev questions

@Prunthaban

Not bargaining... But due to daily price fluctuations you may find the actual price less/more by 100 to 200 rupees.

BTW I am going there this Saturday morning

Guys deltapage gives approx prices & as u said prices fluctuate daily
I have one more shop to suggest 4 u

try " Challenger Computers " U do get phamplets from someone if u walk up & down the lane & try this shop ....this shop has prices which in my opinion is lesser by a hundred or 2

BTW some items might be unavailable over there....

Try the shop & tell me

[Tech_Wiz]

Ty Guys. I am finalizing that. Good thing is I am getting 4K extra from dad :D

So I might invest in More Ram and a SATA HDD in lieu of exisiting IDE DMA 133 =]

How Much performance gain should I expect from using SATA to IDE ??

[naveen_reloaded]

Will try that shop gopu

[nd4spd]

Microtek UPS

DVD-RW : Go for the one which has a service center in ur city. I am using Lite-on DVD-RW and it s giving me sweet performance!


i live in mumbai (Vashi) do LiteOn have a service centre here.
this is the main problem that's bothering me.

[Tech_Wiz]

Price Update:

I got 1 GB DDR II 667 MHZ for Rs. 1350 Only :D rooxxxxxxxxxx

[nd4spd]

Price Update:

I got 1 GB DDR II 667 MHZ for Rs. 1350 Only :D rooxxxxxxxxxx


surprizing
the price difference between 667 and 800MHz is very less
Transcend 1GB DDR2 800MHz for 1400 Rs

[entrana]

hey guys can anyone tell me a good core2duo cooler under 2k

[naveen_reloaded]

Guys what make is the ram actually.is that price includes tax.
Where are yöü from?

[keith_j_snyder2]

hey guys can anyone tell me a good core2duo cooler under 2k Hyper L3 for LGA 775 is for 2000/- at itwares.com
I own a Ultra Hyper 48....trust me it really rocks
or
U can try anything with a copper heatsink.

surprizing
the price difference between 667 and 800MHz is very less
Transcend 1GB DDR2 800MHz for 1400 Rs
Where u get this price from.
I called transcend dealer from New Delhi and he quoted 1800/- for 800 Mhz.

[sagargv]

any aftermarket cooler for geforce 8600GT for least price ?

[janitha]

any aftermarket cooler for geforce 8600GT for least price ?

Does it get so hot? Asking since I am planning to buy one since heard it is good for movies.

[sagargv]

yup . its damn good for hd movies . cpu usage stays below 6 % . . . hd movies runs with ease on my grandma p4 ( 1080p ). .

ofcourse , my card is faulty ( 2 guys landed with similar faulty models in the digit forum too and they've got it replaced ) and i've asked my vendor to replace it . . well , it looks like it might take a bit longer than i thot . so , i was wondering if a cheap cooler ( less than 1k ) can solve the issue .

if u're buying the card , its idle shud be around 55C and load max 75C . thats wen heavily OCed . .my unOCed card goes upto 90C . .so get it replaced immediately if its on the hot side. .this problem is particular to xfx only it seems . .

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^dude if it is faulty then a gpu coller in of no need get it replaced ASAP.

gpu collers is essentially for hardcore overclockers.

[baccilus]

Ya get it replaced. I have the same problem with my XFX 8500GT. Will get it replaced in some time. Once it goes it won't come back for a month.

[sagargv]

thanks.

[janitha]

@sagarv
Thanks for the suggestions.

[vishal_2032]

please tell me best motherboard for intel core 2 duo 6750 2.66Ghz(1333Mhz fsb).Please give me list of all motherboards which are future proof and having features like(quad core support,DDR3 ram,sli,RAID,1333mhz fsb etc.)
My budget is 12k(max.14k).Please tell all motherboards (even if price is less) with price.
also tell me should I go for quad core processor or not?
also tell me price list of graphic card (with bill) 8600gt,8600gts and 8800 series.

[prunthaban]

Why one earth kingston and Corsair 800 MHz RAMs are so costly? What advantage they have? Can I find some comparison online?

[Tech_Wiz]

Asus M2N8- MX This Mobo Supports PCI-e @ x8 omg

So this means 8600 GT wont run at full glory? as its x16 one ??

[keith_j_snyder2]

Then buy some thing with X16 like ASUS M2N MX- SE or M2A - VM or MSI K9NGM2

[Tech_Wiz]

Thanks mate :D

Checking them now =]

[naveen_reloaded]

can any one give me the EXACT price of the following with tax, i am living in Çhèññäì ..so anyone from Çhèññäì or anyone knows the price exactly can help me.

1 gb Ddr2 667mhz
1 gb Ddr2 800mhz
Many here suggest to go for 667mhz ,why is it?is there a problem or compatibility issue in using 800mhz?
320 gb hard disk with 16 mb buffer.

XFX 8600 256 DDR3 (today i asked one shop,they said 6800 Rs including tax?but someone here said its now 6.2k...is it so?has the price in Çhèññäì haven come down?

Good well ventilated, 2 fan atleast cabinet with smps

E440 processor

Asus P5K ,is this the latest one or the asus P5B ?
And what is the difference in V AND VM in these mobo? And also the price?

Anyone who does know or have bought these recently can help me out.
I dont have much time as i have to give quotation within 2 days.so help me fast!
And one last question.
Is XFX 650 ultra a better performer than asus P5K OR P5B?
If possible denote whether tax is included or not...chota pls update your first post.
please guys still waiting for someone to answer...

[nd4spd]

Hyper L3 for LGA 775 is for 2000/- at itwares.com
I own a Ultra Hyper 48....trust me it really rocks
or
U can try anything with a copper heatsink.


Where u get this price from.
I called transcend dealer from New Delhi and he quoted 1800/- for 800 Mhz.


I got it from lamington road mumbai, and yes it is inclusive tax, it is Transcend box pack with 2year warranty.

[quan chi]

hey guys does all xfx cards gets overheated easily.:(.well then should i not get an xfx card.

[entrana]

you have a misunderstanding, all graphic cards get hot. u just have to keep it cool properly, have a good ventilation at least 3 fans

[sagargv]

no . i think problem is isolated to xfx 8500 / 8600.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Guys i have talked to RP Tech guys and they said that there isn't any difference between new and the older (6800 GT) one. There might be a chance that the XFX guy might be misleading our loyal digit bro.

[entrana]

why are u talking about 6800gt?

[quan chi]

well how much is 6800gt.

[HRISHIG]

Hi ,
I am planning to buy a new PC not in single shot but in two installments.
I already have AMD 1700, 512 MB ram , Geforce2 , 250GB HDD , 17inch Monitor . My major use for the PC is for movies / songs and I play games almost once in two months. I am planning to use vindows vista with aero on my new PC. Gaming is not hight priority for me but I should be able to play games like quale 4 , doom 3 , NFS etc etc.
My total budget is around 35k and I am almost zeroing on the following hardware
Monitor :- Viewsonic 22 inch ( around 16k)/
Mobo :- Xfx 650i ultra
Ram :- 2 GB
HDD:- old HDD
Processor :- C2D 4400
GPU:- (XFX 8600 GT ? )Help me please
Now here are my questions
1) I am planning to Overclock the CPU and that’s the reason why I am choosing 4400+ 650i. Question is:- how much I can overclock without use of any external / additional cooler? I will be using the normal CPU cooler fan which comes with the CPU and planning to use one additional fan in the cabin. Also how much will be the noise level increase if we overclock the cpu?
2) Regarding the mobo. :- Can I use xfx 650 mobo without any GPU for basic things like browsing , email etc etc?
3) Regarding the GPU:- As I have said gaming is not hight priority , but I should be able to play games coming atleast till end of next one year on this 22 inch monitor . I have seen mix options about 8600 on net. Can you suggest me what to do regarding this?
4) Last question :-
Should I go for Monitor first followed by the mobo+ processor next month or other way round i.e mobo+ processor first and monitor next month?

Please help me…

[harryneopotter]

1st of all ... look for dell 22" TN E228WFP..... its in ur budget after the price cut ....



2.AFAIK ...650i doesnt have onboard video ... so u'll definately need a gfx card even to boot ur pc.

3.For ur 22 inch monitor ...u sill need a GFX card with atleast 512 mb memory and i have heard that 8600 gt cant do justice to its 512mb memory .....only my view haan ...ask others too.

4. u shld go for mobo + proccy first .....

[keith_j_snyder2]

Why not?
Do i need a license to speak for 8600GT?

well how much is 6800gt.

XFX 8600 GT 256 MB GDDR3 - 6200 INR
BIG/Galaxy 8600 GT 256 MB GDDR3 - 6200 INR

[naveen_reloaded]

^^ is it inlcuding all taxes???

[keith_j_snyder2]

Yup it is!

[dOm1naTOr]

Why not?
Do i need a license to speak for 8600GT?



XFX 8600 GT 256 MB GDDR3 - 6200 INR
BIG/Galaxy 8600 GT 256 MB GDDR3 - 6200 INR

Hi friend
he was askin coz u mistook 8600GT with 6800GT.:p

[keith_j_snyder2]

ohhhhhh..........Reallly sorry.......my bad!

But anyways 6800 GT is no more in production!
So don't think about getting a new one!

[JohnephSi]

Brother plz suggest me configuration 4 my budget Rs 60K.The processor sud b a core 2 duo quadro processor.thnks in advance.

[praka123]

check the first page of this thread.

[JohnephSi]

I did not find friend.Brother plz suggest me configuration 4 my budget Rs 60K.The processor sud b a core 2 quadro processor.thnks in advance.

[W i d e S c r e e N]

For 60K I would suggest,
>4GB RAM
>400-500GB 10,000 RPM HDD
>DVD Burner
>Motherboard that do not need to be upgraded for atleast 2 yrs

>Directx 10 Card. if nVidia DO NOT GO for anything GS. ONLY GT OR GTX

[harsha]

Brother plz suggest me configuration 4 my budget Rs 60K.The processor sud b a core 2 duo quadro processor.thnks in advance.

What are your needs, i mean what is the purpose of the computer ?? and which parts you do you need ?? do u need the full system, i mean UPS / display and all these stuff or just the Cabinet / CPU ??

[JohnephSi]

Just da cpu only.mainly 4 gaming.remember da processor sud b a core 2 quadro

[zyberboy]

new p35 & g33 motherboards for intel core 2 duos and quad core


Biostar TP35D2-A7 Rs 5300/-
Intel DG33FB Rs 5600/-
Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R Rs.8,500/-
Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 Rs.16,500/-
MSI P35 Neo Rs.9,000/-
MSI P35 Platinum Rs.13,500/-
ASUS P5K-VM Rs.8,300/-
ASUS P5K-C Rs.9,500/-
ASUS P5K Deluxe WiFi/AP Rs.14,500/-
ASUS P5K3 Deluxe WiFi/AP DDR3 Rs.17,500/-

(prices may vary)

all motherboards cost double here in india

[harryneopotter]

Just da cpu only.mainly 4 gaming.remember da processor sud b a core 2 quadro

Desktop or Laptop ????

[Choto Cheeta]

Just da cpu only.mainly 4 gaming.remember da processor sud b a core 2 quadro

for a Rs. 60,000/- CPU i would bet on this bellow config... hope members will come up with few more options for you...

Intel Q6600 @ Rs. 11500/- + TAX
ASUS P5N32-E Sli @ Rs.10200/- + TAX
Kingstone / Transcend 800 MHz 4GB (1x4) @ Rs. 6000/- + TAX
XFX 8800 GTS 320 MB @ Rs. 14500/- + TAX
SATA-2 16 MB Buffer 320 GB HDD (SAMSUNG / Hitachi / Segate / WD) @ Rs. 3200/- + TAX
DVD RW - Liteon @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
A good looking but Large and well Ventilated Cabinet with FAN slots @ Rs. 2000/- + TAX
Cooler Master 600/620 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 3500/- + TAX
CPU Cooler - (ThermalRight Ultra 120 eXtreme) + 120 mm highspeed FAN (Supported by ThermalRight) @ Rs. 4500/- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 2268/- (Kolkata)

Total incl TAX Rs. 58968/-

now few products would be cheaper at ur place few are costleir than mentioned here :p but over all this mentioned config will come under Rs. 60k incl TAX for sure :)

[Choto Cheeta]

may be you have missed the sticky http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66140 which is there to sum up all the upgrade and new config threads :)

[zyberboy]

if u r overclocking Xfx 650i ultra, u shud maintain a good air flow within the cabinet as xfx has some issues with SouthBridge heating up,or u can fix fan der if needed

[Tech_Wiz]

I upgraded yesterday so here is the deal I got in Pune

1. X2 4400+
2. ASUS MEN MX -SE
3. 8600 GT Galaxy 256 MB
4. 1 GB DDR II 667 MHz
5. Got a Extra Fan
6. 160 GB Seagate SATA HDD
7. Odyssy SMPS 450 W

All thing costed me Rs. 17000 including all taxes.
Good deal? :D

[keith_j_snyder2]

One can wait for 8800 GT rather than 8800 GTS (320)!
Heard that its a better performer than 320 GTS and will be cheaper too!

Motherboard : ASUS P5K -C is also a good option. It supports both DDR 2 as well as DDR3 RAM (if in future ...IF DDR 3 prices hit the dirt)

CPU Cooler : Aqugate Mini R80 and R120 are also good options but there is no comparison with THERMALTAKE!

[dOm1naTOr]

@Tech_Wiz
fairly gud pricing.
Do ya know individual prices?

[keith_j_snyder2]

Idon't know man but i think for a 22" 8600 Gt is little low on frames.....try getting 8800 GTS or Wit till the market overflow with 8800 GT!

Min. i recommend 8600GTS!

[desai_amogh]

refer to this.. this is the right config for ur needs.

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=638946&postcount=3

[Tech_Wiz]

1. X2 4400+
2. ASUS MEN MX -SE = CPU Mobo Combo 7250
3. 8600 GT Galaxy 256 MB = 6350
4. 1 GB DDR II 667 MHz = 1350
5. Got a Extra Fan = 75
6. 160 GB Seagate SATA HDD = 3000
7. Odyssy SMPS 450 W = 450

And some bargain to get total down to round of 17k including all

btw Just loving the 8600 GT power :D

I am running all my games [Most of them are 2005 to 2006 release] at totally FULL graphic setts and they are running like a charm :D :D.

[Choto Cheeta]

One can wait for 8800 GT rather than 8800 GTS (320)!
Heard that its a better performer than 320 GTS and will be cheaper too!

Good point but unfortunatelly this is indian market :( waiting seems never ending as till date when we would have 8800 GT at Local market with proper pricing, by then we would see 9xxx are just about to come in :lol:

Motherboard : ASUS P5K -C is also a good option. It supports both DDR 2 as well as DDR3 RAM (if in future ...IF DDR 3 prices hit the dirt)

its our personal choise :D yes you are right the board comes P35 chipset and its same if not better than 680i nvidia... :D and will come with CrossFire :D

how ever, its just my personal ovservasion that some how nvidia cards doesnt quite performe upto the mark with board which are ment for ATi CrossFire :(, once again, its just my personal opinion, as do note, on paper P5K-C should run at full performance with any x16 Nvidia Card without any issue....

[keith_j_snyder2]

Yeah u are right but now days INDIA is also on a good road. I 've noticed that the 8800 GTX was available in India in first week of december 2006 when it was launched in november!

India also holds great potential thats why companies like XFX launches the product easily!
Also if it is available not so early then also the wait is worth `because we will get some time to see the performance of the hardware with its competitor!

[Choto Cheeta]

@JohnephSi

as per as suggestion of, keith_j_snyder2 you can do one thing... opt out of 8800 GTS 320 MB and for temp purpose, buy XFX 8400 GS which Rs. 2500/- + TAX on the bellow config... stick with it for few weeks till we have the 8800 GT in the market... then buy 8800 GT if you find the price is under ur budget and replace the 8400 with 8800 GT then :D

:)

Intel Q6600 @ Rs. 11500/- + TAX
ASUS P5N32-E Sli @ Rs.10200/- + TAX
Kingstone / Transcend 800 MHz 4GB (1x4) @ Rs. 6000/- + TAX
XFX 8800 GTS 320 MB @ Rs. 14500/- + TAX
SATA-2 16 MB Buffer 320 GB HDD (SAMSUNG / Hitachi / Segate / WD) @ Rs. 3200/- + TAX
DVD RW - Liteon @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
A good looking but Large and well Ventilated Cabinet with FAN slots @ Rs. 2000/- + TAX
Cooler Master 600/620 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 3500/- + TAX
CPU Cooler - (ThermalRight Ultra 120 eXtreme) + 120 mm highspeed FAN (Supported by ThermalRight) @ Rs. 4500/- + TAX


TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 2268/- (Kolkata)

Total incl TAX Rs. 58968/-

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^That was my second instinct but u already mentioned it! Thanks dude!

[sonu1983]

guys..litle help :)

planin to buy
athlon 64x2 4400+,galaxy 8600GT 256mb OC graphic card,2gb zion 667mhz

my only problem is i need a motherboard to go with it..i have looked at all the options from MSI n ASUS n GIGABYTE..but all have different variations..my budget is Rs.5000 for the motherboard..so if u guys can suggest me 1 :)..and am into gaming to be precise.. thanks in advance.

[Choto Cheeta]

^^

Well do one thing, save money on the board if you like as MSI K9AGM2 will do the job fine which is Rs. 2450/- + TAX, abd then try and push for that AMD 5000 Black Edition, I am really no sure whether its in Indian Market or not :lol: though...

[Tech_Wiz]

I have same config as u can see in My sig. MoBo is mentioned there =]

Its around 3 K mark :D and works like charm

[keith_j_snyder2]

So far black edition is nowhere in India but it will be great to see such processor!
Heard that it has great overclocking capabilities!

[kantiman]

I am planning on buying a new pc with some of the following components please tell me about their performance and price. and suggest a Motherboard, power supply and ups.

Intel core 2 duo E6750 or E6850
Mobo based on P35, 650i, 60i or 965 chipset budget around 6-7k.
8800GTS 640MB.
2gb DDR2 667/800 Ram.
250gb SATA2 HD
power supply suggest- budget around 2k
UPS apc or powersafe - budget around 3k

[bikdel]

^^^^ plan to overclock?

[ravi_9793]

I am planning on buying a new pc with some of the following components please tell me about their performance and price. and suggest a Motherboard, power supply and ups.

Intel core 2 duo E6750 or E6850
If you dont have money problem..than go for E6850..However E6750 is also enough for average high end works.

Mobo based on P35, 650i, 60i or 965 chipset budget around 6-7k.
How about Asus P5B delux, price 11k
Or Asus P5B-VM, price 7K

8800GTS 640MB.
2gb DDR2 667/800 Ram.
250gb SATA2 HD
Nothing to change.


power supply suggest- budget around 2k

Get any, but higher watt SMPS..around 600 or more watt.


UPS apc or powersafe - budget around 3k
APC, 800VA

If possible, follow this thread.
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66140

[prunthaban]

Is it true that XFX 650i Ultra motherboard has a lot of problems?

[sonu1983]

I dont think black edition is avaliable anywhere..though i ll try..wats it cost..hmm..so u mean i can go with tat motherboard n 5000+?hmmm sounds sweet..hope getin a cheap motherboard is not gona cause any hamper to the speeds..

[zyberboy]

Is it true that XFX 650i Ultra motherboard has a lot of problems?
seems new batch of 650i has some problems,not sure,
waiting for someone recently bought it to reply..

[prunthaban]

seems new batch of 650i has some problems,not sure,
waiting for someone recently bought it to reply..
This thread suggests so. (http://www.bjorn3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16552)

So what is the alternative for XFX 650i? Can I go for ASUS P5K-C (which is a bit costly and not sure of its availability). Probably ASUS P5N-E SLI?

[Choto Cheeta]

^^

There are problem in any hardware :p but u know there are many more happy XFX 650i users out there than problemed ones :p XFX support isnt bad either !!!

but anyway, if not XFX 650i Ultra then I would vote for P5K-C over ASUS P5N-E SLi :)

[assasin]

^^^ apc 800va will be way above his budget.its better to buy a apc 650va ups.

@kantiman for the mobo get a Asus P5N-E Sli.proccy is good but if u hav more cash then go for a C2Q Q6600.ram is dirt cheap now.so if u can then get 4GB.also buy a 320GB hdd instead of 250Gb cuz 320Gb costs only 300-400 bucks xtra.

[keith_j_snyder2]

P5K-C hold good potential and a value for ur buck. But as choota cheeta said in his thread that it supports X-fire and i have checked it on ASUS website which means low nVidia performance. So i 'de suggest P5N-E SLI.

Infact i suggest for nVidia chipset only because they have a good support of ATi card too ( seen in lot of benchmarks that they are using nVidia board for both ATi and nVidia cards to benchmark).

Since P5NE-SLI is nVidia 650i chipset, its a great deal but u can also go for XFX 680i - LT which is also a good motherboard....slightly costlier than P5K-C!

[prunthaban]

Then we have two questions now,

XFX 650i Ulta Vs ASUS P5N-E SLI? (which one is better?)

XFX 680i LTI Vs ASUS P5N-E 32 SLI? (which one is better?)

In both cases mentioned above ASUS is 2K costlier than the XFX ones.

[Choto Cheeta]

XFX 650i Ulta Vs ASUS P5N-E SLI? (which one is better?)

ASUS one is better as its more suitable for higher OverClocking, like for example under XFX u cant set Memory Voltage over 2.1v where in P5N-E SLi u can go byond that :)

but in most cases you wont need the features which are not present in XFX but in ASUS to me that extra 2k invest is not a good idea :lol:

XFX 680i LTI Vs ASUS P5N-E 32 SLI? (which one is better?)

Hardware testing sites review shows better performance with XFX but I would say they are neck and neck... just personal choice I am more suiteble to ASUS becuase of their reliability :)

[keith_j_snyder2]

Hardware testing sites review shows better performance with XFX but I would say they are neck and neck... just personal choice I am more suiteble to ASUS becuase of their reliability :)

No they are not the same!
P5N32E-SLI is 680i whereas XFX 680i-LT is Light edition of 680i which not that much overclocker as P5N32E-SLI.

P5N32E-SLI is almost same as striker extreme and also it runs on X16+X16 channel for SLI whereas XFX 680i LT run on X8+X8!

P5N 32 E - SLI is much better than XFX one!

[prunthaban]

P5N 32 E - SLI is much better than XFX one!
Is this a personal opinion or based on benchmarks?
I am going to buy a pc this weekend (alreasy posted config in this thread earlier) and I am in a big dilemma which one to choose, either P5N-E SLI or XFX 650i Ultra?

I am confused. Remember I have no plans of going for dual graphics cards. So even if I buy SLI, one slot will go waste. My question is under this condition, is it still better to but SLI? In fact I am ready to but P5N-E 32 SLI too provided 'IT PERFORMS GOOD WITHOUT CONSIDERING SLI'

[Tech_Wiz]

Just for info : ASUS M2N MX SE Mobo has ZERO options for OC.

I read some articles of OCing and went to check on my Mobo Biios and bam. Nothing there :D

[keith_j_snyder2]

Dude i am giving u the following link which also confuses me abut the chipset of the P5N32ESLI!
The ASUS site says that the motherboard is 680i chipset but neoseeker says that the motherboard is 650i.
PLEASE CHECK THAT UR MOTHERBOARD SHOULD BE 680i NOT 650i!

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1459&l1=3&l2=11&l3=397&l4=0
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/asus-p5n32e-sli/

There's a difference between P5N32E SLI and SLI Plus.

The SLI is 680i and SLI plus is 650i....don't get goofed from this and keep this in mind!

The P5N32 E SLI is best option amongst all!
And yes it will give u the best performance with single card too but u will still have an option to upgrade it for future use also. Otherwise it will work on X16 with a single card(thats what every single card is supposed to give X16).
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=19557

Also consider Q6600 instead of E6850!

[cyberzook]

My friend is planning to buy a new system.
The purpose would be games and movies.
His budget is max 35k w/o the graphics card which he plans to add 1 or 2 months later.
A core2duo based system is targeted.
Is a 19" LCD possible to be included in this?

[Choto Cheeta]

if thinking Intel Config then,

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ Rs. 7900/- + TAX
ASUS P5K-V / VM @ Rs. 7800/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 3200/- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
Liteon DVD RW (IDE) @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
Cabinet with a 500 Watts ColorSit / PowerSafe @ Rs. 2000/- + TAX
2.1 Skp system Creative / Logitech @ Rs. 1000/- + TAX
Local UPS @ Rs. 1400/- + TAX
17" CRT LG 700E @ Rs. 4300/- + TAX

TAX @ % VAT Kolkata Rs. 1260/-

Total Rs. 32760/-

I dont think u can actually fit in one 19" TFT in that C2D base config, for that you may have to opt for E4400 or lower :(

For motherboard this ASUS P5K-VM is here at Kolkata but hard to find, vendors for some reason are not stocking it and if some one have it asking a higer price... now you have 2 option, XFX 650i ultra (Rs. 4800/- + TAX) with XFX 8400 GS (Rs. 2550/- + TAX) or the ASUS P5K-VM with onboard x3100 (G33 chipset)... buy the one which is cheaper :)

For TFT you have to increase the budget a lot as i would say View Sonic VG1930wm (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2007/10/05/quick-review-super-flop-view-sonic-vx1932wm/) in 19" segment which is Rs. 9500/- :)

[cyberzook]

He does not want any speaker at the moment, and what abt anything between 4400 & 6750 so that some money can be saved.
Will 800 MHz RAM improve performance.

[Choto Cheeta]

^^

800 MHz will not going to make any huge performance difference but they some time help while OC and the price difference is really not much between 667 MHz and 800 MHz so go for the 800 MHz :)

and what abt anything between 4400 & 6750 so that some money can be saved.

there is, 1k less than E6750 is E6550, but in that sense performance whise I would think of AMD 5200 :D...

[BULLZI]

Hi!!

My old UPS got damaged and i want a new one.
My system :

E6400, 7900 Gt, P5B Deluxe, 2 GB ram, DVD Combo, 160 GB HDD, CPU Cooler, 620 Watt PSU.

Plz suggest a decent UPS that can provide abt 45mins -1 hr backup.

[sachin_kothari]

My uncle needs a very basic computer for home use.
He will be running some accounting software and office applications.
Suggest a configuration for him which is less than 16k.

[Choto Cheeta]

^^

AMD X2 4000+ @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX
MSI K9AGM2 @ Rs. 2450/- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz Transcend or Kingstone @ Rs. 1250/- + TAX
160 GB SATA-II @ Rs. 2000/- + TAX
Any Large Well ventilated Cabinet with Default 400/450 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 1250/- + TAX
Kicrosoft Desktop Pro Combo 700 @ Rs. 700/- + TAX
17" CRT LG 700E @ Rs. 4300/- + TAX
2.1 Spk @ Rs. 1000/- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT Rs. 630/-
Total Rs. 16380/- incl TAX

Try and find AMD X2 3600+ range processors :D which would be around Rs. 2400.. you may also otp for any Basic speakers around Rs. 250/- :lol: also any local made keyboard mouse would do too :D.. for cabinet any Large well ventilated Local made would do.. usually those would come with either 400 or 450 watts SPMS...

these may make the price come down :D...

[zyberboy]

I am going to buy a pc this weekend (alreasy posted config in this thread earlier) and I am in a big dilemma which one to choose, either P5N-E SLI or XFX 650i Ultra?


have u bought the system?? which mobo?
me too planning to buy new system but stuck with motherboards to choose...looks like p5ne sli is better performer & well built than xfx ,but 2k more and also onboard audio of xfx is better than asus p5n-e
due to recent problems with new batch xfx mobo i will have to go for p5ne sli even though i wont be using dual vga


can anyone suggest a p965 based mobo under 7k?or any other?

[cyberzook]

if thinking Intel Config then,

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ Rs. 7900/- + TAX
ASUS P5K-V / VM @ Rs. 7800/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 3200/- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
Liteon DVD RW (IDE) @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
Cabinet with a 500 Watts ColorSit / PowerSafe @ Rs. 2000/- + TAX
2.1 Skp system Creative / Logitech @ Rs. 1000/- + TAX
Local UPS @ Rs. 1400/- + TAX
17" CRT LG 700E @ Rs. 4300/- + TAX

TAX @ % VAT Kolkata Rs. 1260/-

Total Rs. 32760/-

I dont think u can actually fit in one 19" TFT in that C2D base config, for that you may have to opt for E4400 or lower :(

For motherboard this ASUS P5K-VM is here at Kolkata but hard to find, vendors for some reason are not stocking it and if some one have it asking a higer price... now you have 2 option, XFX 650i ultra (Rs. 4800/- + TAX) with XFX 8400 GS (Rs. 2550/- + TAX) or the ASUS P5K-VM with onboard x3100 (G33 chipset)... buy the one which is cheaper :)

For TFT you have to increase the budget a lot as i would say View Sonic VG1930wm (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2007/10/05/quick-review-super-flop-view-sonic-vx1932wm/) in 19" segment which is Rs. 9500/- :)

With reference to above he is increasing his budget to 42k.
I think we can accomodate viewsonic vg1930wm and a graphics card in this budget, with the XFX 650i ultra mb.
Although 8800 seems great, Wouldn't going for a 8600 GT right now be affordable as well as sufficing to most needs.
As you have both these cards(mentioned in the 1932 review), could you
give a first hand comparison of the two (performance/price).

Thanks

[sachin_kothari]

thanks Choto Cheeta
will post what i purchase later.

[Shayon]

Hi,

Could you provide me with a PC configuration according to the prices in Bangalore or Mumbai? Although a budget of 16k is fine, I'd really prefer itto be below 15K.

The components that I need to buy are listed below:

Processor
Motherboard
Cabinet & SMPS
RAM Module
Hard Disk (Not under 160GB, 7200rpm)
DVD Writer (Preferably Dual Layer)
Graphics Card (Optional but definitely preferable)

Thanks.

[Choto Cheeta]

Hello,

May be you have missed this thread http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66140


thnx

[zyberboy]

How is Intel DP35DP motherboard? is it avilable in india?wt abt the performance

http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards/intel-desktop-board-dp35dp/4507-3049_7-32467476.html?tag=nav

And also is Asus P5B avilable in india?
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=307&model=1178&modelmenu=1

[Choto Cheeta]

@cyberboy_kerala

P5B sereise is been replaced by the P5K ones !!! however yes P5B is availabe :p but not sure about the price 8 months back it used to be Rs. 8500/- + TAX :lol:

one personal question ... if u dont mind offcourse... why would u want P5B ?? when u have P5K in market !!!

No X38 board in Kolkata atleast !!! may be Delhi and Mumbai folks are lucky to have such :P but not in Kolkata atleast :lol:

[zyberboy]

one personal question ... if u dont mind offcourse... why would u want P5B ?? when u have P5K in market !!!

is p5k available here ,wts the price..is it good to pair with core 2 duo 6750?

intel DP35DP vs asus P5K vs P5N-E Sli which one is better performer

[Choto Cheeta]

I am not sure about Intel X38 original one !!! but as what I read No Floppy support, DDR3 only, No OverClocking support :p

P5K is a costly board would go around Rs. 10k where as P5N-E SLi is Rs. 7.2k.. whats the ur need by the way ??

@All

Guys BIOSTAR TF7150U-M7 (http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-series/content.php?S_ID=305) is here :D and listed it http://www.abacusperipherals.com/contactus.htm any one can give us a price tag of the board ???

Forgot to Post, Biostar TF7150U-M7 (http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-series/content.php?S_ID=305) is one Nvidia 7150 onboard grfx based board... HDMI support :D good option for cheap but better preformance in terms of Money :D and cheap systems :D

only nagative is it doesnt seem to support OC, though I am yet to read any physical tested review or test the board physically :lol: as the manual doesnt show any option for OC :(

[zyberboy]

I am not sure about Intel X38 original one !!! but as what I read No Floppy support, DDR3 only, No OverClocking support :p
confused, is this to me or..........

P5K is a costly board would go around Rs. 10k where as P5N-E SLi is Rs. 7.2k.. whats the ur need by the way ??

Multimedia application and casual gaming,p5k is costly so wt about p5b(i wont be using sli but p5ne sli is only 7.2k)

[Choto Cheeta]

^^^

Think for XFX 650i too :p as even P5b is available at ur place will cost same or more than P5N-E SLi !!!

With reference to above he is increasing his budget to 42k.
I think we can accomodate viewsonic vg1930wm and a graphics card in this budget, with the XFX 650i ultra mb.
Although 8800 seems great, Wouldn't going for a 8600 GT right now be affordable as well as sufficing to most needs.
As you have both these cards(mentioned in the 1932 review), could you
give a first hand comparison of the two (performance/price).

Thanks

even u go up to 42k u can only fit in the Display, as if you ask me as a proffesional Gamer like a person who spends his most of the off time or a person who is adtictaed or who means sereious gaming, this is how u would rank it :p..

8400 GS >> Nvidia 7150 >> Intel G33 (x3100) >> Nvidia 6150 >> AMD 690G = No Gaming
8600 GT GDD3 Fatality >> 8600 GT GDDR3 256 MB = All games with mid or low settings...
8800 GTS 320 MB = Most of the games at high settings full resolutions, how ever DX 10 base games wont go full resilution if all settings are turned on...
8800 GTS 640 >> 8800 ulta 768 MB >> SLI = now we are talking pro gaming with full settings on largest of Displays :D

now as one casual week end gamer like aperson who would just play game one or 2 hours max a day just for a change :p

8400 GS >> Nvidia 7150 >> Intel G33 (x3100) >> Nvidia 6150 >> AMD 690G = Low gaming with weekend fun :D grfx will suck but all games will run (8400 GS only) with low settinsg :D
8600 GT GDD3 Fatality >> 8600 GT GDDR3 256 MB = the 8600 GT GDDR3 256MB which is now i think droped to or bellow Rs. 6k :D would be Bext or rather Idle for weekend gamer :D
8800 GTS 640 >> 8800 ulta 768 MB >> SLI = waste of money :p

Now what type of gamer are u ?? Dont be shy to disclose if u play heavy gaming as buying a computer is one investment :p u dont want it to go wrong :p

[divyeshashiya]

I plan to assemble a pc for watching hd movies(720p,1080p from hdbits).So I want my config to be something like this-
Processor- Core 2 Duo E6750/E6850 Not sure which one to go with.Will gaming performance be affected?I will be gaming only sometimes.
Motherboard- ASUS P5K-VM/BIOSTAR TF7150U-M7(Whats its price?)
I would love an HDMI out but is it available in India(Biostar motherboard)?Where did you see it?
RAM- 2 GB KINGSTON 800 Mhz
Graphics card- Now this is where the problem arises,should I go with 8600 GT OR 8600GTS (tell me the manufacturer name too).
Monitor-An LCD 19" monitor which you recommend for 12000 rupees.I am really a noob at these.Please gimme a fast response time one.

Please reply at your earliest as I want to order it today.

[naveen_reloaded]

guys for time being i have to use nvidia 6200 tc with my upcoming system.. is it ok.. or should i run without it ..
i may probably uise Vista..

wht say..

and my config including web cam has come to 18k... i still wondering ...
will post exact detail with pricew if possible soon...

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

i just saw deltapage... sadly no drops in price... everything is the same as it was 2-3 months back.. :(

when to expect price drops ??

whats the cost of a 19 inch good quality LCD now ??
also what about intel new processors and amd's new ones...

[Choto Cheeta]

whats the cost of a 19 inch good quality LCD now ??

People have difference in opinion as what is good... personally I would say try View Sonic VG1930wm though keeping in mind all VX1932wm sold found to be defective :p

I own one vg1930wm and pretty much happy with it, however i also bought the vx1932 which really sucks :p

VG1930wm is Rs. 9500/- in Kolkata....

also consider Dell 22" wide scren option liested as Rs. 13900/- + TAX :D

guys for time being i have to use nvidia 6200 tc with my upcoming system.. is it ok.. or should i run without it ..
i may probably uise Vista..

Whats ur Mobo ??

[shyamno]

Which would be better to go for ...1)INtel G965RY or 2)Intel G33 based mobo ..

in terms of future upgradation,onboard graphics,performance etc..????

Also suggest me a good Intel G33 based mobo ?? Should I wait for G35 based mobo ??

Also there is a news circulating that intel have dropped the plan to launch G35 chipset and interested to lauch G45 instead ???

can anyone clarify the news and what are the expected lauch time for either chipset ??

[Choto Cheeta]

I would say a complete No to any Intel board apart from 975 un-locked BIOS version boards...

:lol:

anyway as for the question Intel G33 (GMA x3100) ex DG33BU is better than DG965RY (GMA x3000) :)

[shyamno]

I would say a complete No to any Intel board apart from 975 un-locked BIOS version boards...

:lol:

anyway as for the question Intel G33 (GMA x3100) ex DG33BU is better than DG965RY (GMA x3000) :)

Can u give some links to such intel boards and what is their price range ??

Also I want to know on what basis u are saying No to INTEL except those 975 one ?? (Just wana know)

Are u saying to intel or intel chipset ?? little bit confused...So which one to go for...??

[Choto Cheeta]

i am saying no to Intel original Boards, some reasons are when you run same hardware with a ASUS board and a intel most of the time its is seen that ASUS / MSI / XFX usually out perfome the Intel counter parts.. and also bandwidth ratio is poor with same hardware when ran at ASUS or MSI or XFX boards...

now one of the main reason till P4 it was logical to go with Intel and under any day P4 / PD didnt allow the OverClocking abilities where as with Core 2 Duo it seems every Procesors are so OC frndly that its a waste of processing power if one doesnt OC :lol:

but that doesnt mean u must OC with Intel C2Ds :p

Can u give some links to such intel boards and what is their price range ??

The full Desktop motherboard range (http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboard/index.htm)

[Pathik]

I would say a complete No to any Intel board apart from 975 un-locked BIOS version boards...

:lol:

anyway as for the question Intel G33 (GMA x3100) ex DG33BU is better than DG965RY (GMA x3000) :)
x3100 is better than x3000 is normal graphic applications... but for gaming x3000 is better cos it supports sm3.0 whereas x3100 supports only sm2.0

[naveen_reloaded]

chota ..its been so loong.. nice to u ...
ok i think my mobo will be asus... p5b v..

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

People have difference in opinion as what is good... personally I would say try View Sonic VG1930wm though keeping in mind all VX1932wm sold found to be defective :p

I own one vg1930wm and pretty much happy with it, however i also bought the vx1932 which really sucks :p

VG1930wm is Rs. 9500/- in Kolkata....

also consider Dell 22" wide scren option liested as Rs. 13900/- + TAX :D

thanks cheetha !
looks like no new good LCDs in 10-11k range..apart from 1930 then
obvioulsy 14k is costly.. and 22 inch for what ??

for browsing internet and foruming and music 19 inch itself is very big right ?

or bigger is always better kya ?? for any purpose or use ??

[Pathik]

^^ just for movies... and if u really need a really big workspace..

[naveen_reloaded]

off toipic...:

chota i tried to PM u .. but it seems its full./..

so posting it here (nothing personal )

nice to see u back..

one request man..

please do update your first post in the "Basic guide for ...." (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66140)


http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66140

and also add few other config if possible ...

really a nice thread u have started there...

if possible try to add or give link to place where there is any tutorial about overclocking which u mention throughout the first post.. coz once they buy many wont OC ... if its there on the first page it will be nice and also complete////

8-)

[Choto Cheeta]

@naveen_reloaded

if its would be then make sure it would be P5K-VM or P5K-V :lol: as it is replacing P5B-V / VM boards...

but with both case dont use 6200 :p just for example, Vista would get index rating 3.1 / 3.0 with G33 / G965 (GMA x3100 or x3000) how ever with 6200 it would be around 2.2 / 2.3, just enough to run Aero :lol:

with a 6200 LE this is the result of one of our P4 630 based system :)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7676/37229329cb8.jpg

and cant find any saved screenshot in my personal PC which i have taken early from any of our x3000 or x3100 based boards :lol: but both case Vista rates grfx as 3.1 or 3.3 for g33 or g965 :)

P.S.

@naveen_reloaded

thnx for the comment :p yes will have to update the 1st page :) not getting time right now but will update as soon as possible for me :(

@akshay

Dell E228WFP is what I am talking about :D http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/20lcd?c=in&cs=inbsd1&l=en&s=bsd

[naveen_reloaded]

^^ thnks man..

ok how much will my 6200 will go for if i sell ???

thnks for the screenshot//

ya find some time and update..

[Choto Cheeta]

ok how much will my 6200 will go for if i sell ???

Why u want to buy a Onboard based Mobo when u have a grfx card ?? yes i mean it, 2.0 / 2.2 Index rating with 6200 will allow Areo without any problem but yes will be hard in gaming...

buy XFX 650i if u are planing for P5B-VM :lol: then XFX 650i with 6200 i would say as u already have the 6200 :D

[naveen_reloaded]

no man .. actually they are assembling the system and about to get the system at anytime now...
my friend has agreed to give his 8600 gt 512 for 5500Rs.. so cool huh ...

so until then i thought of using the free ggfx card.. thats why ..

guys...
P5GC-MX vs P5B-V.... which one is goood..

my vendor bought the former... tom i have a chance to change ...

wht say??

[Choto Cheeta]

huh ??

P5GC-MX G945 base board lot cheaper than P5B-V which is G965 based board, and at no point never consider that P5GC-MX :lol: so change right away :(

[naveen_reloaded]

man the vendor which i got is a friend of mine ..
i asked for p5b ...
but he got me this ..

here is my config intel core 2 duo 4500 2.2ghz
1gb x 2 ram ddr2 transcend
320 gb hdd sata... but cant say whether it is 2 or 1..
coz i haven pluged in the system...
tom i will do it ..
its fresh .. no os ... nothing..
asus p5gc mx 1333 oc..something something ...
atx cab .. (nice one actually )
ups 600va
creative speakers a30
ztech web cam..

all comes to 20k/-

wht shall i do ???

[Choto Cheeta]

say no to the full config :lol:

AMD 4800 with M2N based (nvidia 6150) will performe far better than this 20k config :(

[naveen_reloaded]

why do u say so.. please man.. i am stuck..

why is it ??

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^ask for individual prices man and then post.Don't go for full system as your 'friend' is proposing.

processor---ok
Ram---------ok
hard disk---get sata2 man it works 5-10% faster than sata1
motherboard---no idea
ups------will do
cabinet---buy a large atx cabinet....should be large and future upgradable.

[zyberboy]

wts the price of P5B-V??

[Choto Cheeta]

@Ravi

Compare the Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 + ASUS P5GC-MX (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=498&l4=0&model=1574&modelmenu=2) and A