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Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 12:01 AM

@coolsunny

Thnx for the comment and Thnx for the suggestion my frnd...

Regarding AMD L2 size, I have already posted this link http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041%5E13076,00.html at the 1st page.. which is for AMD Processor number details page.. :D

i want to change my CPU, Mobo, graphics card, RAM and power supply.
Please give me some inputs.If possible give me a AMD based and Intel based combination.I will use it mainly for gaming.i would like a system which can play most of the games reasonably well.

Target 17k !!! purpose mainlly gaming... !!! bellow is the one I would bet on for that range and purpose... also, wait for others to comment too :D

AMD X2 4000+ (1MB L2) @ Rs. 3000/- + TAX
MSI K9AGM2 @ Rs. 2450/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz (2x1) @ Rs. 3650/- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT GDDR-III 256MB @ Rs. 6700/- + TAX
PowerSafe / Sebronics / ColorSit 500 Watts @ Rs. 1500/- + TAX

TAX @ 4% (VAT) Rs. 692/-

Total Rs. 17992/-

Intel config would be costly as see Intel now do Have a great low budget processor to match AMD 4000, thats Dual Core E2140 @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX but unfortunatelly no good mobo is available for budget system on intel platform, even with E2140 or a Quad Core, the lowest is the XFX 650i Ulta @ Rs. 4800/- + TAX, so u can think of Intel if you increase the budget to 20k, which is not needed, AMD will just work fine for ur need :)

dOm1naTOr

09-09-2007, 03:03 AM

One of my friend wants a system for 15k without monitor, ups, k/b nd mouse.
SO ive decided the following config: can u suggest if its gud for da price:
AMD 4000+: 3k
MSI K9AGM2: 2.5k
2*512 DDR2 trns: 2k
250GB Seagate: 2.6k
cabby ZEb lowest : 1.1k
LG DVDRW: 1.3k
------------------------------
total 12.5k

He can max extend his budget for some 1.5~2k
He wants a gcard too for max 4.5k
which is da best card for 2.5k?
whats the price of X1600 pro, 7600GS, 7300GT, 8500GT etc?
He has a 15" monitor and wud only play @1024*768 max, but likes to play at high settings at dat resolution. So which card is best performing at low resolution?

rahuleyes

09-09-2007, 04:50 AM

@ choto cheeta

Thanks for your great support. hope you remember me.
Here is one problem.

XFX boards are not available here. xfx650i ultra is not available. Even xfx 8400gs grfx card costs 3400/-
E6750 8500/-
UPS APC 2500 /-

My dealer is forcing me for Intel DG33BU. coz there is no other cheap choice. But i dont want to go with it as u said before.

Rest config prices are ok as u written.

Now i planned to go with better motherboard. may be asus will be great for me, what do you say brother !!!

I will add grfx card later. You didnt reply my question before. Is there any major difference in LCD performance through DVI out and analog out ?
Difference is minor and unnoticable ?

Pls suggest me some Asus board with P35 chipset and cheaper which fullfill my all requirements.
I really dont need wi fi
I am not a over clocker
I dont play games. Counter strike type of games once in a year.

Am a stock broker if you remember so i need to open many programs at a same time.

Hope you remember my post before. A big post which makes you bored hahahaha. Am very much happy that i asked a question to the right guy. Yes you said it right. All the people here are fully supporting. But you are the perfect replier. The method of writing is extremely superb. I have seen many here praising you. You deserve it.

Now pls pls suggest me something in ASUS with P35 chipset. If still you think that 650i and 680i are better than P35 then i think ASUS P5N-E-SLI will be the best. Still need your final stamp.

Thanks a lot

Rahul.

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 08:42 AM

@rahuleyes

thnx for the comments... :)

anyway on topic...

Instade of XFX 650i Ultra + XFX 8400 GS, think for ASUS P5K-VM Rs. 7500/- + TAX Kolkata... P5N-E SLi (Rs. 7000/- + TAX) is a great board board then again it will not come with onboard grfx, so minimum you have to add a 8400 GS again, which is insanelly costly as I see at ur place :( so i think it will put strain on ur budget... !!!

ASUS P5K-VM will come with G33 (GMA x3100) good for now as u later plan to add a card... :)

One suggestion is, dont stick to one dealer, do also check out others in ur area... XFX boards and 8400 GS is selling like hot cake, prices are really low for them, so chances are iether ur vendor doesnt have stock, or some reason he doesnt want to to stock...

Check out here for XFX Products... its very simple, if you have ASUS, you must have XFX too, as they are marketed by same company, in ur case,

AHMEDABAD
Rashi Peripherals Pvt Ltd.
A2, II Floor, Oxford Tower,
Gurukul Rd,
Ahmedabad - 380 052.

Tel No.: +91 - 079 - 27430080/27470678
Fax No.: +91 - 079 - 27122757 / 27430098
Email : ahmedabad@rptechindia.com

Also, try and posting here to see if any one from ur place can give u some info on shops where u would get better deals...

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8673

Is there any major difference in LCD performance through DVI out and analog out ?

There is, but right now no need to pull ur hair out for thinking DVI interface... vx1932wm will come with both interface, so, if you opt for ASUS P5K-VM, http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1690&l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0 to start with u may stay on analog as no DVI is available on it...

now By chance u go to another vendor and find XFX deals, then with 8400 GS u can run at DVI interface..

@aravind_n20

1st of all opt for 1 GB DDR-II singke stick, rather than (512x2)... now days, 2 GB u should eye for if not tother but upgrade when ever possible... :)

for Rs. 2.5k, only one card I would say fits in is XFX 8400 GS, now days Rs, 2550/- + TAX !!!! u cant play at 1024x786 for FEAR atleast... with mid settings its 800x600 which gives the best FPS, which 1024, FPS will drop a lot... :(

Now its quite foolsih to go for any thing low to 8600 GT now days if one plans gaming... Which Rs. 6700/- + TAX... and also I dont recomend 8400 GS for a person who will have onboard AMD 690v... !!! so either buy 8600 or avobe or for now, stay onboard till u can increase the budget to buy 8600 or above...

recent at Kolkata, bought few LG DVD RW... all are now dead, will have to take them for service... cant say what event wront, but none of them are reading or writting any more :( then again bought Lite-on too, which has another problem... most of the time IT cant read DVDs burnt using its own :lol: where those burnt DVDs can be read on any other drives apart from Lite-on....

so all these cheaper models are giving a lot of problem.. and unfortunatelly no other option either :(

dOm1naTOr

09-09-2007, 11:53 AM

ok thnx chottu,
I opted for LG DVDRW coz its damn cheap and can be bought for as less as 1.2k.
But Liteon is at 1.7k and Sony is at 1.5k. Is Sony worth it?
My 1.3 yr old Sony DVDRW has gone dead yesterday.

He can't think of a later upgrade, not atleast in 1~1.5yr. So he'll have to go card a card. Is 7600GS worth it? and whats da exact price?

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 12:03 PM

Hey choto cheeta great work dude.
I am upgrading my system.My budget 13-14k
what i am upgrading:-
(1.)2gb RAM ddr2@667mhz
(2.)graphic card(u suggest),i am thinking of XFX8600GT fatal1ty edition
(3.)a 250GB hard disk
(4.)a PSU-I have to cos my current one is not good enough.
(5.)1-2 cooling fans-big ones with low speeds

My current system is:
C2D processor e6300@1.86ghz
intel 946ghiz motherboard
512mb ddr2 RAm
80 gb hard disk

please suggest the make and company of RAM,graphic card,a good enough PSU,and fans with their prices.

Pathik

09-09-2007, 12:14 PM

^^
Get transcend 2*1 gb ddr2 667 mhz ram @ 3.6k..
Get a xfx 8600 gt 256mb gddr3 at 6.5k and OC it to a 8600gts
Get a 250gb seagate sata 2 16mb buffer hdd @ 2.8k
and get a zebronics platinum 500w @ arnd 1.8k..
~ 14.7k..

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 12:24 PM

Thanks pathik.But oc'ing a card voids its warranty and I won't be able to buy a new card if something goes wrong.And I think this faltal1ty edition is even better than 8600gts.
I was thinking of corsair RAM-it will be a little costly but I guess it's better than transcend or kingston.

BTW I am getting simple 8600gt@5.5k and fatal1ty at 7k,so how is the deal?

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 12:55 PM

@aravind_n20

Take a good look at the pricing http://www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm ...

4.5 k is really would waste of money... wait few months to increase it to 7k !!! as with TAX 8600 GT would cost u around 7k.... or rather right now increase the budget for 2.5k more to get 8600 GT, all bellow cards like 7600 GS or bellow really would bad buy...

@The_Devil_Himself

thnx for the comment... :)

dont mind for my negative comment... rather than buy high end rams, think of XFX 650i Ultra Rs. 4800/- + TAX... the Intel 945 will not going to give u the performance you are thinking of... :( simple I fear will bottle neck :|

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 01:01 PM

ARRE BOSE NO CHANCE OF A MOBO UPGRADE RIGHT NOW.Only the components I stated in my earlier post.And I don't think Intel 945 is such a bad mobo as I don't OC my processor.

Dude money is always scarce for students so no new mobo for atleast a year or so.

And yes www.theitwares.com is not working right now.(error 404)

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 01:53 PM

BTW I am getting simple 8600gt@5.5k and fatal1ty at 7k,so how is the deal?

Good deal... go for the 5.5 GT one :) if its XFX then... :)

and my frnd i dont think the Motherboard supports 3gbps SATA-II drives... even if you buy one I think either by default it would work as 1.5gbps or u have to set the jumpers to force it to work as 1.5gbps...

I didnt see any motherboard with the number u said... please do mention the exact model no... :)

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 02:34 PM

Intel® Desktop Board D946GZIS.Sorry for typo in the first post.look at http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/is/is_available.htm

Yes 5.5k for XFX 8600GT 256MB.But I am thinking of fatal1ty as I don't want to buy a simple 8600GT and then overclocking it as it will void the warranty.

Isn't SATA II reverse compatible?I am sure it is and there is no price difference between sata 1 and sata 2 so buying a stat 2 HD will be a waser option.

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 02:35 PM

Not sure, but i dont think u would be able to utilize the extra bandwidth of these card with Intel 946 boards... :( and it seems that ur mentiooned board doesnt come with SATA-II 3gbps support...

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 02:44 PM

Not sure, but i dont think u would be able to utilize the extra bandwidth of these card with Intel 946 boardsWhich cards buddy?.. :( and it seems that ur mentiooned board doesnt come with SATA-II 3gbps support...
SATA 1 or SATA 2 doesn't matter much to me.BTW sata 2 is reverse compatible and in fact all the sata's(like sata 3 or sata 4) will be reverse compatible.SOURCE:WIKIPEDIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA.

But buddy one thing is for sure I won't be able to buy a new motherboard.My current one is just 10 months old and it costed me a lot 10 months back.Maybe in next 8 months or so but not now.

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 02:52 PM

@The_Devil_Himself

By these card I ment 8600 GTS Fatality one !!! u would spend extra 2k over GT but i fear would be bad investment...

and I got ur point, that Mobo upgrade not possible, thats why I tried to explained that purchasing highest end stuff with 946 wont be good idea... so, stick Value rams, no need for high end Crosiar ones or Fatality.. as the Chipset may not be able to utilize their higher bandwdith...

and for SATA-II, I already said,

and my frnd i dont think the Motherboard supports 3gbps SATA-II drives... even if you buy one I think either by default it would work as 1.5gbps or u have to set the jumpers to force it to work as 1.5gbps...

So SATA-II 250 GB will work, as 1.5 Gbps, i am not sure for ur exact board but while I saw in few other Intel 946 board what few Detected the SATA-II drives are by default worked in 1.5gbps, but for few boards we had to set the jumpers in the back of the HDD to force it to 1.5 gbps... !!!

So i just expressed my concirn.. as for ur config, I stand by what pathiks suggested :) that would be the best buy and value for money too as u are really getting some cheap deal on 8600 GT :D

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 03:00 PM

Ok,got your point.Just two more questions.
(1.)I was thinking of buying corsair value ram they will cost around 4k for 2x1gb or just 400-500 more than transcend or kingston.
(2.)IF I buy 8600gt i will have to oc it and that will void it's warranty thats why I am thinking of buying a 8600gt fatal1ty as it is factory overclocked to max. and is passively cooled.I want the 3 year warranty XFX gives as I know sooner or later I will burn/damage my card.

as far as PSU is concerned I will buy zebronics platinum 500w as suggested by pathiks.

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 03:15 PM

(1.)I was thinking of buying corsair value ram they will cost around 4k for 2x1gb or just 400-500 more than transcend or kingston.

Poeple preffer those crosair models for their endurance for OC, and which is ruled out in ur case... so saving Rs. 500/- means u can think for some extra fan as u were thking for them !!! :)

but once again, all i can do is express my thoughts and opinion, fact is its ur system, and if u find budget permits... go for those... as once agian putting those in wont harm the system :D

(2.)IF I buy 8600gt i will have to oc it and that will void it's warranty thats why I am thinking of buying a 8600gt fatal1ty as it is factory overclocked to max. and is passively cooled.I want the 3 year warranty XFX gives as I know sooner or later I will burn/damage my card.

Choise is urs, :| I expressed my concern and my thoughts... but see in the end its u who would be using, so its certain we will have difference of needs and way which we play games... !!! so opinions are in front of u... if ur budget permits then why not... !! go for it... :D as once again its ur system, and ur choise :D buying fatality wont harm the system, so budget permits go for it...

So here are the facts for u,

Transcend 2x1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz => Fine
Crosiar 2x1 GB 667 MHz => Fine (personally I fear true potential wont be utilized)

8600 GT => Fine
8600 Fatality => Fine (once agian my personal opinion may be the board wont be able to use the extra speed and bandwidth over GT)

:D

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 03:21 PM

Thanks dude for your valuable suggestions.Now I am really worried about my mobo.I will wait till december to increase my budget to buy a better mobo.In the meantime only a RAM upgradation.

BTW which mobo you suggest?AND it's price.

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 03:38 PM

@The_Devil_Himself

My suggestion....

get the HDD option out for now atleast...

XFX 8600 Fatality @ Rs. 7000/- (u are getting a really good price for it, real steal)
XFX 650i Ultra @ Rs. 4800/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz (2x1) @ Rs. 3600/- + TAX
SMPS @ Rs. 1500/- + TAX

Total incl TAX is Rs. 17576

u are Rs. 3.5k short with budget of 14k...

now if u buy those, u would have extra Intel 946 board + 512 MB DDR-II and a extra SMPS... try and talk to the vendor see if you can get a buy back or not, for those 3 i would say u can manage 2.5k (its atleast, try to ask higher price :p and I feel entually u would end up in this buy back price) !!! so that means u have to arrenge another extra Rs. 1000/- for avobe config :D

now about HDD, wait... 80 GB and if u have a DVD RW drive :p i dont think that puts u on a immidiate updating need ?? for information 160 GB SATA-II would be Rs. 2000/- + TAX :)

The_Devil_Himself

09-09-2007, 03:52 PM

2x1gb ddr2 RAM(667mhz) transcend @ 3300(theitwares.com)

MY SMPS is unsellable.I can sell my RAM and mobo to my cousin who is purchasing a budget PC(20-22k).

Yes I do have a DVD RW so no immediate udgrading need for HD

Thanks dude your help is appreciated.I will check out the prices of components you told me and update as soon as possible.

jackal_79

09-09-2007, 05:04 PM

hi there,
I have decided to go for an Intel based system.So please advice on a intel based system in the 20 K range.
Ineed a processor, motherboard, graphics card, RAM and power supply.

divyeshashiya

09-09-2007, 07:10 PM

Hi, I need to assemble a Intel based PC for around 40-45k.It will be used as an HTPC and connected to 720p Panasonic projector(with HDMI).I will be watching a lot of HD content (x264 mkv movies) so suggest the config keeping this in mind.Also it will be placed next to the home theater system so the cabinet should be real good.No speakers required but 19" LCD is needed.Please suggest a good configuration.

Choto Cheeta

09-09-2007, 09:17 PM

@divyeshashiya

I would try to suggest the config based on these bellow facts,

Budget Rs. 45k Primary Objective Watching HD content

E6550 @ Rs. 7000/- + TAX
XFX 650i Ultra @ Rs. 4800/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 3600/- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT GDDR3 256 MB @ Rs. 6700/- + TAX
320 GB SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 3150/- + TAX
Lite-on DVD RW (IDE) @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
Zebronics / Coooler Master Fancy Cabinet @ Rs. 3500/- + TAX
Zebronics / PowerSafe / ColorSit 500 Watts SMPS @ Rs. 1500/- + TAX
View Sonic vx1932wm 19" Wide (1440x900) @ Rs. 10050/- + TAX
Microsoft Desktop Pro (Combo) @ Rs. 700/- + TAX
APC 650 VA UPS @ Rs. 2500/- + TAX

TAX @ 4% (VAT) => Rs. 1792/-

Total incl TAX => Rs. 46592/-

Note one thing, I am sorry I cant Mention the model number of Cabinet as really my and ur visual chose will be different, so understand that 3.5k is what I would allocate for Cabi, both the brand mentioned as really cool ones, so chose one under 3.5k :D... while u chose make sure that cabi has a good ventilation too :)

BULLZI

10-09-2007, 01:35 PM

hi guyz.one of my friends want to buy new proccy + mobo.
budget 25k.plz suggest a decent combo.the combo shud be futureproof for at least 3 yrs.

The_Devil_Himself

10-09-2007, 01:40 PM

Choto Cheeta

10-09-2007, 02:17 PM

^^^

Once again please elborate ur budget and products u need... :) as is it still 14k for Procy + Mobo + RAM + SMPS ?? or some thing else now ??

Pathik

10-09-2007, 02:18 PM

Yup 8700 is g92 based.. Btw x3000 is the best onboard gfx soln in intel.. Keep it.. Replace ur mobo wen u get a gfx card.. X3100 doesnt hav shader model 3.0..

Choto Cheeta

10-09-2007, 02:21 PM

hi guyz.one of my friends want to buy new proccy + mobo.
budget 25k.plz suggest a decent combo.the combo shud be futureproof for at least 3 yrs.

25k just for Procy + Mobo ?? if yes then,

Intel Quad Core Q6600
ASUS P5N32-E SLi

:)

squid

10-09-2007, 03:13 PM

i own the following configuration
ASUS A7n266VMdlx
ATHLON 1800+, 512 MB DDr Ram
300 Watt PSU
Two 160 GB PATA Hard disk
One Sony 18x DVD RW
One Samsung Combo drive
Altec Lansing VS3151 5.1Speaker
Two Lan Cards
One 15" and One 17" Monitor

I am adding another system with following configuration mainly for image editing and for movies
AMD X2 4400+
ASUS M2NPV-VM / ASUS M2NBP-VM CSM / MSI K9N ULTRA
2 GB DDR2 667MHZ RAM
500 WATT SMPS WITH CABINET

My budget is upto Rs.15000/

Please suggest the suitable motherboard and processor or suggest a better configuration in that budget.

thanks
I will be using the old harddisk and my 17" Monitor

Choto Cheeta

10-09-2007, 03:19 PM

^^^

Didnt get what u wanted !!! are u upgrading this ??

ASUS A7n266VMdlx
ATHLON 1800+, 512 MB DDr Ram
300 Watt PSU
Two 160 GB PATA Hard disk
One Sony 18x DVD RW
One Samsung Combo drive
Altec Lansing VS3151 5.1Speaker
Two Lan Cards
One 15" and One 17" Monitor

to this,

AMD X2 4400+
ASUS M2NPV-VM / ASUS M2NBP-VM CSM / MSI K9N ULTRA
2 GB DDR2 667MHZ RAM
500 WATT SMPS WITH CABINET

or u will keep the old one with another new system ??

and Budget of 15k for full system or just the mentioned,

AMD X2 4400+
ASUS M2NPV-VM / ASUS M2NBP-VM CSM / MSI K9N ULTRA
2 GB DDR2 667MHZ RAM
500 WATT SMPS WITH CABINET

Products ??

The_Devil_Himself

10-09-2007, 03:20 PM

^^^

Once again please elborate ur budget and products u need... :) as is it still 14k for Procy + Mobo + RAM + SMPS ?? or some thing else now ?? I have decide to buy
2gb RAM-Rs.3300
Smps-1.5k

now I need to decide on a good mobo(oc friendly) having onboard graphics at around 5k,you suggested XFX 650i ULTRA but it has no onboard graphics and I won't be able to buy a graphic card as of now.

Choto Cheeta

10-09-2007, 03:26 PM

As Pathiks said, Stick to Intel 946 board right now you have... :) as upgrade later when u would buy the Card...

as for u, only board I would say right now in the market is ASUS P5K-VM @ Rs. 7500/- + TAX...

once again as Pathiks said, there wont be huge boost over x3000 to x3100... yes there is performance difference in between them... but not that much as worth 7.5k :p

So Yes, get the RAM... SMPS !!! wait till u buy the Card...

Now one more thing is if u get a Good Deal on the board + RAM as u said, u can push it to a budget system of ur cousin, then things are different... !!! so in that case choise is ASUS P5K-VM !! :)

The_Devil_Himself

10-09-2007, 03:31 PM

Thanks dude.I am short of budget right now so I guess I will try to sell my RAM+MOBO first then I think I will go for XFX 650i ULTRA+8600GT combo.

Thanks again.You have been really helpful.

squid

10-09-2007, 03:34 PM

thanks for that quick reply
>choto_cheeta
The budget i have mentioned is only for cpu,motherboard,Ram and SMPS
I will be adding a new system with the existing one mainly for image processing. already have the harddisk, monitor and a 600 va UPS for the new system. couldn't zero in on CPU/MB combination. Please help.

Choto Cheeta

10-09-2007, 03:44 PM

@squid

you are bang on target for the AMD config for 15k budget !!! how ever as the need is image processing, I would suggest why dont you think for this bellow Intel Config ??

Intel Dual Core E2140 @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX
XFX 650i Ultra @ Rs. 4800/- + TAX
2x1 (2GB) DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 3600/- + TAX
PowerSafe / ColorSit / Zebronics 500 Watts @ Rs. 1500/- + TAX
XFX 8400 GS @ Rs. 2550/- + TAX

TAX @ 4% (VAT) 610/-

Total incl VAT => 15860

The New Dual Core range (E2140 and E2160) are really different from Older Pentium D, read more, http://www.chotocheeta.com/2007/09/01/difference-between-intel-core-2-duo-vs-intel-dual-core-vs-intel-pentium-d and 8400 GS will certainly out performe any onboard grfx right now available... !!! and XFX 650i Ulta will support C2D / C2Q so later so later on u have the upgrade option too :)

having said that once agian I state there is nothing wrong in ur config of AMD u can also go with it...

BULLZI

10-09-2007, 05:24 PM

25k just for Procy + Mobo ?? if yes then,

Intel Quad Core Q6600
ASUS P5N32-E SLi

:)

Yup,thats rite.25 k just for proccy+mobo.

looks like he has gone crazy:D abt hardwares.

well quad core along with p5n32e sli - sounds really cool.bt will it be future proof for at least 3 yrs?i mean to say he has consideration about ddr3 memory:).

so....nything better??

and also plz do post the individual pices for the proccy n mobo:).

jackal_79

11-09-2007, 12:33 AM

i have a doubt regarding Geforce 8600 GT.Which of the following is the best?

XFX / ASUS / Gigabyte

Choto Cheeta

11-09-2007, 12:34 AM

ASUS / XFX / GigaByte all three are good...

I prefer XFX when comes to grfx card :) where as ASUS is my 2nd choise, but never used any GigaByte Card...

Once again these are My personal Opinion... !!!

jackal_79

11-09-2007, 12:45 AM

when i asked for the price of XFX 8600 GT it was 6750 + Tax. So it will come around 6900.Is it really worth it?

BULLZI

11-09-2007, 10:00 AM

go for it.its a good card,not very hi fi, bt u can have medium range gaming without ny problem:).

@choto

u didnt reply to me pal:(.

Choto Cheeta

11-09-2007, 12:30 PM

@choto

u didnt reply to me pal:(.

Hey I am missing the question !!! I did say, for 25k, its Q6600 and ASUS P5N32-E SLi :D but apart from that I cant see any other question... please guide me to that !!!

when i asked for the price of XFX 8600 GT it was 6750 + Tax. So it will come around 6900.Is it really worth it?

Price is normal... neither its very cheap nor you are being over charged... so if u have the funds, go for it... :D

BULLZI

11-09-2007, 01:39 PM

Yup,thats rite.25 k just for proccy+mobo.

looks like he has gone crazy:D abt hardwares.

well quad core along with p5n32e sli - sounds really cool.bt will it be future proof for at least 3 yrs?i mean to say he has consideration about ddr3 memory:).

so....nything better??

and also plz do post the individual pices for the proccy n mobo:).

plz refer to this.

Choto Cheeta

11-09-2007, 01:43 PM

keith_j_snyder2

12-09-2007, 12:06 AM

ohh !!!

Well DDR3 based board would be best with X38 chipset which is long due and yet to come out... even those P35 which suports DDR3 will be around 16k so in that case u have to settel for E6750 as Processors... and finding DDR3 module in India will be damn hard, u would end up odering from US, and 2 GB of it would mean costlier than Ur Mobo + Procy I suppose... :lol:

so Better Stick to DDR2 now... and it would be safe for 3 years :)

Q6600 is 12.5 to 12.9k depending on the day or market
P5N32-E SLI is Rs. 11.9k :)

Besides this the DDR3 isn't that much of a performance when compared with DDR2. There's hardly a noticeable difference between performance. Since u can get 4x1 GB DDR2 for the price of 2 GB DDR3....or may be 1 GB,i think u should opt DDR2 as Chota Cheeta Says.

Pathik

12-09-2007, 12:21 AM

Yep u can easily get 4*1gb ddr2 667 for 6k.. Whereas 1gb ddr3 wd be much more costlier

The_Devil_Himself

12-09-2007, 12:28 AM

Are you sure pathik about your prices??
that means 2x1gb should cost 3k to me.

Pathik

12-09-2007, 08:07 AM

Yup.. A dealer at lamington rd gave me those rates for 1gb transcend ddr2 667mhz modules.. ~1.5k

The_Devil_Himself

12-09-2007, 09:00 AM

Thats good news for me.thanks dude.

BULLZI

12-09-2007, 10:39 AM

thanks to all of you guyz.:).

my friend has already got P5N32-E SLI.he is going to get the quad core in this weekend:).

jackal_79

13-09-2007, 12:02 AM

I have decided to go with XFX 8600 GT.Now please suggest a Intel processor and mobo.By the way, with XFX 8600 GT can i play F.E.A.R? and what about company of Heroes?

Choto Cheeta

13-09-2007, 12:41 AM

FEAR / CoH / any other present game willl run fine with 8600 GT :D

Now please suggest a Intel processor and mobo

your budget for both ??

Pathik

13-09-2007, 12:57 AM

@jackal the best wd be a e6750 xfx 650i ultra 13k..

BULLZI

13-09-2007, 12:13 PM

@choto

do u have ny info about 89 series/98 series from nvidia?when they are coming out?

jackal_79

13-09-2007, 04:30 PM

Well as i have decided to go for an intel based upgrade, budget would be in some thing around 20 - 22K.
As XFX 8600 GT i have decided as graphics option on 6900 /-
can u suggest an intel processor, a mobo, power supply and RAM.

Pathik

13-09-2007, 11:44 PM

xfx 650i ultra -5k
intel c2d e6750 -8k
xfx 8600gt -6.5k
transcend 2*1gb ddr2 667 -3k
zebby 400w psu -0.5k

BULLZI

14-09-2007, 11:27 AM

EVGA 8800 GTX superclocked available in Kolkata?
or MSI 8800GTX superclocked watercooled edition??plz suggest a vendor.

thanx in advance:).

S!D

14-09-2007, 04:43 PM

Guys.. need help!!
I already have a wireless mouse and want to get a decent Wireless keyboard within 2k.
Dont wanna go for a combo..as the mouse wud be a complete waste..
Can someone please suggest some...

Choto Cheeta

14-09-2007, 04:45 PM

Hey Bro, Did u look at Logitech range ??

S!D

14-09-2007, 08:51 PM

Hey Bro, Did u look at Logitech range ??
ok..chkd the site..these r the one's i liked:
diNovo Edge (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192&cl=in,en) :) but don think it'll be available in india, and definitely not within my price range..
also liked this one from iBall[cordless couple]:
http://iball.co.in/inner/show_product_details2.asp?catid=19&pid=147
this one's got just the right price and feats combi..guess i can keep the mouse as a backup for later.
didnt like anythink from microsoft under 2k..
wt do u think..
will probably goto chandni on monday to chk these out..
cn u suggest any model u know?
******************

entrana

14-09-2007, 09:22 PM

there are also good logitech wireless combos under 2k, id reccommend over iBall

S!D

15-09-2007, 11:40 AM

there are also good logitech wireless combos under 2k, id reccommend over iBall
hmm..nice:)
cud u suggest a few models in logitech within 2k..I couldn't find any myself:-(

Harvik780

15-09-2007, 11:58 AM

hmm..nice:)
cud u suggest a few models in logitech within 2k..I couldn't find any myself:-(
I have one but its not for gaming(u can bet me that)...I bought it for rs1,400.
The model is Cordless Desktop EX90
Its excellent for normal work but in gaming the accuracy resolution is poor.

S!D

15-09-2007, 03:42 PM

I have one but its not for gaming(u can bet me that)...I bought it for rs1,400.
The model is Cordless Desktop EX90
Its excellent for normal work but in gaming the accuracy resolution is poor.
thanks:) chkd it out...pretty basic stuff other than the quality which logitech shud provide.

and, I'm not concerned abt the bundled mouse..already have a logitech MX Revolution.
my need is just a high end/sleek lookin wireless kbd..
the bundled one wud just end up in the drawer:D
tried lookin for a solo kbd bt not gettin any good one's

i almost drooled on the screen for:
Remote Keyboard for Windows® XP Media Center Edition (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=038)

shantanu

15-09-2007, 07:24 PM

hi there guys ! now i am going to buy a new system, i want atleast 8GB ram . a decent GFx card.. i am going for this system coz i am giving my surrent system a break to my work.. so now it will run Vs2008 and Windows server 2008 . for testing purposes..

so for gaming what should be my config... but keep the RAM in mind.. its the most important ?

thanks

shantanu

@harvik : these eyes will kill me lol

The_Devil_Himself

15-09-2007, 07:33 PM

^^Specify your budget shantanu.

shantanu

15-09-2007, 07:42 PM

ummm : budget is not a problem.. i can spend any amount... :D well kind of 1lac .. it will be okey and not a waste i guess.. :)

shashank4u

15-09-2007, 07:49 PM

The_Devil_Himself

15-09-2007, 09:15 PM

@shantanuIntel Core 2 Quad Q6600 -12.5k

ASUS P5B DLK Wi-Fi: 11k

8GB corsair RAM ddr2@667 :17.5k(8x2200)

XFX GeForce 8800GTS 320MB -17k

Cabinet and PSU-10k

Viewsonic LCD monitor 22" 2245WM-17.5k

Optical drive-LiteOn LH-20A1H-1.7k

Creative Inspire 7.1 :7k

WD Raptor 36GBx2 in RAID0 setup:7k

WD 250GB SATAII 16MB buffer: 2.5k

Good keyboard and mouse:5k

Total:108.7k

Note:the prices are not accurate but you should get lower prices than the prices stated above.

This is my first attempt and shantanu's unlimited budget did help a lot.lols.
Where is choto cheeta?He is our undesputed hardware Guru.

shantanu

15-09-2007, 11:32 PM

:( my current config is :

qx6700
Asus striker extreme
4 gb ram
8800gtx

The_Devil_Himself

15-09-2007, 11:40 PM

Then what do you need shantanu?You already have a very good sytem just add 4GB more RAM.(just for the sake of making a total of 8GB RAM)
As far as a graphic card is concerned wait till November for DX10.1 compatible 9800 series.

shantanu

15-09-2007, 11:42 PM

man , i am bored of the same kind of performance.. so i need a change.. i hope you guys understand.. there might be something better to look upon.. :)

The_Devil_Himself

15-09-2007, 11:50 PM

You already got a monster of a system dude.You have the best processor,the best mobo,and one of the best graphic card.What else bro?

Or maybe you just need innovative ideas to spend 1 lac rupees.lols.Wait for choto cheeta to comment on this.

shantanu

15-09-2007, 11:53 PM

hmmmmm, i think i am going a bit too fast.. :) thanks for the help though :D
i appreciate it..

The_Devil_Himself

15-09-2007, 11:58 PM

I think your wait is gonna end soon with the release of 9800 series of graphics card,45nm processors by intel,and mobos based on the latest x38 chipset(ddr3 and PCIe2.0 support).

Hulk

16-09-2007, 12:54 AM

Hi Guys,
Need Help. Thought of upgrading the system. Here thought some configuration.

1) Processor- AMD X2 Dual Core 4200
2) Mother Board- ASUS M2A-VM_HDMI
3) RAM-Transcend 1GB *2 DDR2 Ram @ 667Mhz
4) Graphics Card-XFX 8600 GT
5) Hard Disk-250 GB Seagate (7200RPM)

My Budget for these things are between 15k to 20K

Please let know your view on this.

And I want to retain My 15” CRt Monitor(Synmaster 45Bn), or do I have to change for the above configuration.

Please let me know your valuable suggestions.

Thanks in Advance

S!D

16-09-2007, 10:01 AM

:( my current config is :
qx6700
Asus striker extreme
4 gb ram
8800gtx
:shock: Bro..wid dis config, u wont need an internal upgrade right now.
I dont think there is any sane thing in the world that we can throw at ur PC...and make it feel more than an itch:D.
rather suggest u go for an external upgrade..
here's some drool maal for u::
SideWinder™ Mouse (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/productdetails.aspx?pid=100)
diNovo Edge (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192&cl=in,en)
MX Air™ Rechargeable Cordless Air Mouse (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/3443&cl=us,en)
will keep addin more.. (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=080)

Gigacore

16-09-2007, 10:13 AM

@ shantanu...... do u think its not enough :O......................?

Its more than enough....
4 GB of RAM..... .......pheewwwwwwww

Pathik

16-09-2007, 10:50 AM

man shantanu ur config simply rocks... you dont need anything more IMO..
and if u want more performance then wait for barcelona to release...
also ur hard disks are prolly a bottleneck in ur current system.. so get 2 of them and configure them in RAID 0 to get a performance boost..

The_Devil_Himself

16-09-2007, 11:57 AM

Yep get two WD raptors 36GB and put them in RAID0 configuration.

Gigacore

16-09-2007, 12:22 PM

Hmm.. i think shantanu has got a huge pocket :D

Hey shantanu... post ur workspace in workspace thread :)

Reena

16-09-2007, 12:38 PM

shantanu

16-09-2007, 01:12 PM

yeah sure i am gonna post my system pics today,, in that thread...

and yep i got seagate 250Gb * 2 HDD .
and am planning for the raptor now..
well for Keyboard and mouse i got Microsoft Entertainment desktop 7000 with M$ laser mouse 8000 (both bluetooth) :D

and thanks buddies for your suggestions... i think i will now replace my HDD with raptors *2 :p

niladrisde

16-09-2007, 01:16 PM

Hi,

I already purchased a system with the following configuration (31st July 2007).

ASUS M2A-VM - 3.8k + Tax
AMD X2 4000+ - 3.35k + Tax

I also have Kingston DDR2 800 RAM 1GB - 2.85k + Tax, and WD Sata2 HDD 250GB - 2.7k + Tax, with this system.

I am working on some CAD design projects, and it seems, this new system, though has good fire-power for everyday things, is little slow, for my CAD softwares.

Now I have to purchase another new system anyway. And I want get some advice on the combination of procy, and mobo I should go for, and their prices, for this new second system.

For the MoBo, and Procy, my previous price was 7.15k + Tax. I feel for more fire-power, I have to raise the bar. Please suggest best combinations of MoBo, and Procy, for each of the following budgets.

1. 10k (for MoBo + Procy only)
2. 12.5k (for MoBo + Procy only)
3. 15k (for MoBo + Procy only)

In the earlier system, I'll beef up the RAM to 2GB anyway, and the in the new system also I'll have 2GB RAM. Also, my CAD design softwares are not too demanding on graphics, and hence I would go for MoBo-s with on-board graphics only.

Please, please, please, help...

Choto Cheeta

16-09-2007, 02:27 PM

omdhar

16-09-2007, 03:54 PM

I have my system based on C2D E4300, ASUS P5B-MX/wifi, Kingston valueram 1 GB DDR2-667, 400 W Powersafe SMPS. I use integrated graphics memory of 256 MB. My mobo(Intel 946GZ chipset) supports Intel GMA 3000 which has Pixel Shader 2.0, Vertex Shader 3.0 (software) & Open GL 1.4 and no Hardware Transform & Lighting. Can anyone suggest me of some good race & action games for my pc.

adithyagenius

16-09-2007, 05:34 PM

My friend is going to buy a PC for gaming as soon as we get time to go outside college. Maybe after 5 days. Budget is 35k. Here is a tentative config. Please give your suggestions..

Processor +mobo_: E4400 & xfx 650i ultra__________Rs 10800
RAM____________: 2*1gb ddr2 667mhz___________Rs 3200
DVD-Writer______: Lite-ON 20x__________________Rs 1600
HDD____________: Seagate 250GB_______________Rs 2800
Graphics card____: xfx 8600gt___________________Rs 7000
Cabinet &SMPS___: Zebronics RAGE with local psu___Rs 2350
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ``````
The whole box = Rs 27,750

UPS:_____APC 650VA_____Rs 2950
Monitor:__798MG s/s______Rs 5700
Keyboard:_MS____________Rs 300
Mouse:___MS comfort300__Rs900
Speakers__Altec ATP3_____Rs 3000
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ````````
Other Stuff = Rs 12,850

Total = Rs40,600

I want to reduce it to 35k. Please help me with the following
1) In out hostel we get only 1 minute power cuts 4 times a day. So should i get cheaper UPS. I am worried that lower VA UPS cant handle the load of graphics card running at full speed. Cold booting is not required. Will 500VA handle this config?
2) My friend got samsung 794mg monitor and it had curved top screen edge and the text in the middle of the screen were blurry at 85Hz 1024*768. Does 798MG solve these problem or should go for viewsonic 17" CRT.
3) Should my friend get AMD system instead of intel to reduce the cost. lowest available AMD x2 in hyd is x2 4000+. Please suggest a fast mobo without onboard graphics with it.
4) Is there a better dvd-writer under Rs1800?

dOm1naTOr

16-09-2007, 06:25 PM

@adithyagenius
o need for APC UPS, go for Vguard 600VA UPS. Its only 1900/-
Samsung 798MB Plus is a good monitor. Set the v nd h moire to around 30 and its clearer than nything in its range.
ATP3 costs onle 2.4k
AMD 4000+ is for 3k, 4400+ is for 3.5k and get a RS690G based mobo like Asus M2A VM for 3.3k or MSI for 2.5k. They perform more or less close to the top nforce 570 Ultra . Its only downside its micro ATX mobo.

i wud say get
AMD 5600+ and MSI 690 AM2 for 9.5k.
At stock speed, it cud easily beat E4400 and it cud even beat stock E6550.

adithyagenius

16-09-2007, 08:41 PM

^^
I checked 798mb plus and its very good. But the processor...
according to anandtech 5600+ has difficulty beating e6420 at stock speeds and core2duos are meant to be run o/ced.
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3012

If I o/c the processor , will the RAM be affected or adjusted?

Choto Cheeta

16-09-2007, 10:49 PM

Can anyone suggest me of some good race & action games for my pc.

Sorry, frnd this is not the thread where u should ask this question,

please refer here..

Will this game run on this configuration? (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8996)

@adithyagenius

Few personal Suggestions...

LG CRT 700E is Rs. 4150/- + TAX Kolkata... its semi Flat but works great !!! :)
APC Price seems high... its around 2500/- + TAX (More or less)
Microsoft Desktop Pro 700 Combo is Rs. 700/- + TAX
You are getting very cheap deal under RAM !!!

More or less system specs are good, and I would also Suggest if possible do take a look at E2140 (Intel Dual Core) its Rs. 2450/- + TAX :D

dOm1naTOr

16-09-2007, 10:58 PM

@adithyagenius
E6420 is more powerful than E6400 coz of its 4MB L2. Thats gives u more performance in tasks like video encoding, winrar compression etc, but in games more or less da same.

get this month's chip. There is a detailed comparison on CPU, mobile CPU, GPU etc. Really nice.
The 5600+ has more vfm than 6400 nd 6420. Also gud performing AMD mobo is for as low as 2.5k and performs no less than nforce 570SLI.
U can save much money and invest it for GPU. Make it an 8600GTS.
Its worth going for 8600GTS than getting a slightly better CPU when gaming is concerned.

Also if u plan to oc, get quality RAM as the memory frequency also gets increased when u overclock the CPU.

adithyagenius

16-09-2007, 11:17 PM

I think upgrading to 8600gts will prove to be too costly because it needs a 6pin connector which means I will have to buy Zebronics 400W platinum which is 2.4k. Add to this the cost of the graphics card.
I am now quite convinced about the 5600+ since I saw the chip review in the college library. I will do some research on the mobo.
My friend has got 40k but its meant for buying a computer and also a mobile phone. Thats the reason we are trying to keep the budget below 35k.

@choto cheeta
Does the mouse included in ms combo good enough? I had serious skipping issues with cheap mice.

Choto Cheeta

16-09-2007, 11:24 PM

@choto cheeta
Does the mouse included in ms combo good enough? I had serious skipping issues with cheap mice.

umm.. Personally i didnt face any issue till today... I am using few... :|

I will do some research on the mobo.

as u are buying a Card too, then I would say M2A-VM for Rs. 3.6k + TAX would a good deal !!!

Pathik

16-09-2007, 11:29 PM

If u plan to oc than u hav to get a c2d.. Or keep the other config same and get a e2140 instead of a e6750.. It s abt 3k.. Get a 650i ultra +a 8600gt wit it..

Also get 800mhz ram if u plan to oc high.. U shd get 2*1gb 4 4.4k..

Choto Cheeta

16-09-2007, 11:29 PM

^^^

Last day My frnd bought one E2140 from Kolkata, its Rs. 2450/- + TAX :lol:

adithyagenius

16-09-2007, 11:42 PM

umm.. Personally i didnt face any issue till today... I am using few... :|

as u are buying a Card too, then I would say M2A-VM for Rs. 3.6k + TAX would a good deal !!!
Did you use the mouse at high sensitivity and tried placing very quick headshots without your view rotating at 2000rpm. I have seen few cheap mouse which don't skip or lag. So whats the dpi on the mouse?

M2A-VM is in short supply in hyd and it costs Rs 3900+ here. The onboard graphics card is waste of money when there is already a card.

My friend is scared to O.C because he fears loss of warranty on procy, ram and mobo. Is this true? Hyderabad temperatures reach 44 degrees in summer and the room temperature is 32 degress right now. All o/c in reviews were done in cooler countries under a/c. No kind of fan or heatpipe will reduce the temperation below room temperature. Hardwares always reach a temperature X+room temperature when the heat production = heat dissipation. X can only be reduced by water cooling which is too costly.
Without OC E2140 will be a very significant bottleneck for 8600gt. Even with x2 3800+ fps drop is significant. For 8600gt, Amd 4000+ is minimum to utilise it fully. I dont know about intel's procy but I think e2140 will be a bottleneck.
Please comment on this

Pathik

17-09-2007, 12:18 AM

Y doesnt ur friend want to oc.. If u do it right it wont harm ur mobo/ram.. And 2140 can reach 2.4 easily on stock.

Choto Cheeta

17-09-2007, 12:53 AM

I dont know about intel's procy but I think e2140 will be a bottleneck.

The system which was bought last day is E2140 + 650i + 8600 GT

even On stock I dont see card getting bottle necked !!! and even at Indian hot summpers those E2140 can reach 50% OC under Stock Cooling if u have a Large and Well Ventilated Cabinet !!!

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/12/pentium_dual_core/page11.html

adithyagenius

17-09-2007, 05:16 AM

^^
from the same benchmark test see this page
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/12/pentium_dual_core/page8.html

At stock, other processor setups are providing around 50% more fps. Anything more than 15% implies bottleneck with 100% confidence. O/ced e2160 is definitely not a bottleneck.
For o/c ing the processor to 3.2Ghz, will expensive ram be needed? We are planning on getting Transcend 1GB 667Mhz RAM. Also 650i has 2.1v limit on ram. Will all this fit in without changing the config much?

debsuvra

17-09-2007, 04:33 PM

I want to build a PC of my own in next two months.
I made a configuration for my need but confused about the price.

Please take a look at my proposed machine

ASUS P5N32-SLI Premium/WiFi-AP Motherboard

Intel® Core™2 Extreme processor QX6850

Corsair Dominator DDR3 RAM (4*2 GB)

nVidia 8800 GTX * 4 (in quad SLI)

Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeGamer snd card

suitable Antec cabinate & PSU for these mediocre components

Samsung 35'' LCD or something like that from others

Logitech G15 Keyboard & some gaming mouse

Creative GigaWorks® ProGamer G550W 5.1 speaker system

I think it is sufficient for a moderate computer of our age. Please work out the price for me. I want the approximate full system price. Also inform me about it's performance if possible.

The_Devil_Himself

17-09-2007, 04:39 PM

Dude first of all suggest your budget.Its the most important aspect.
Corsair Dominator DDR3 RAM (4*2 GB)

nVidia 8800 GTX * 4 (in quad SLI)
Man you are very-very rich(even if you are just thinking about it).

debsuvra

17-09-2007, 04:51 PM

Dude first of all suggest your budget.Its the most important aspect.

All I can say that money is not a concern. I desperately want to buy the machine in coming days. Please suggest the price and performance if possible.

The_Devil_Himself

17-09-2007, 05:02 PM

If money is no concern then why don't you consider ALIENWARE?

debsuvra

17-09-2007, 05:07 PM

If money is no concern then why don't you consider ALIENWARE?

I want to have a taste to assemble those beasts by myself. Also branded machines have some difficulties for overclocking and support in India etc.

Harvik780

18-09-2007, 11:22 PM

I want to have a taste to assemble those beasts by myself. Also branded machines have some difficulties for overclocking and support in India etc.
P5N32-SLI does not support DDR3 RAM.
Currently there are no drivers for 8800 GTX/Ultra Quad SLI.
OH forgot to add BUT P5N32-SLI is an SLI board not QUAD SLI BOARD
Are you a newbie or just creating confusions.

I need some help.
I am gonna upgrade my old pc on which i surf and download.
I want decent performance an I am not gonna compromise on it.These are what I need-
Ram(2GB,Budget Rs2000)
Motherboard(Budget Rs 7000 supporting new processors not the ones not released) and I want an Intel board which supports overclocking
Processor(Budget Rs 7500,c2d)
Power Supply(Budget Rs5000)

Now comes the graphics card,i have decided to buy the HD2900XT,the reason why is cause Rashi has stopped selling 320MB models of 8800GTS and nvidia has still not released mid range products and I don't want 8600 and HD2600.
I will be gaming at 720p(1280*720).I have two options Gecube HD2900XT or MSI HD2900XT,which is better and what's the price.
Will my processor bottleneck the GFX card,I will also buy the thermalright ultra 120 extreme so that i can overclock the processor.

Reason for upgrade:
Brother wants to play on lan with me.

Choto Cheeta

18-09-2007, 11:55 PM

@Harvik780

I have few Doubt !! I dont think that u can manage 2 GB RAM under 2k... and only mobo in 7k range for ur need would be P5N-E SLi... for procy I suppose its E6550 C2D..

for the question that will ur Procy buttle neck the card... I think NO... with ThermarRight Ultra :lol: u can allways OC if u feel that Procy is slowing u down, but I feel even at Stock that C2D wont cause any issue for sure :p

sabret00the

19-09-2007, 01:28 AM

premsharma

19-09-2007, 01:47 AM

Suggest a G33 motherboard, ATX from, no crossfire required. Is Intel DG33FB good enough or MSI G33 Platinum. Any idea on their cost and performance. When is digit carrying out review of these new motherboards i.e G33, P35 & X38 etc. For intel which all mobos are available with nvidia 7020 onboard graphics?

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:17 AM

Suggest a G33 motherboard, ATX from, no crossfire required.

ASUS P5K-V (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1652&modelmenu=1) Price Rs. 8k but Not Available in Kolkata, because dealers only storing P5K-VM which is Rs. 7200/- + TAX and its uATX :(

For information, personally i feel Intel Original G33 Boards are crap :p

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 02:24 AM

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:25 AM

Kingstone / Transcend 667 I think is around Rs. 3400/- for 2x1 GB :D

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 02:27 AM

Kingstone / Transcend 667 I think is around Rs. 3400/- for 2x1 GB :D
Thanks,
And the query about power supply??
Is zeb diamond 640W is good?Retails for Rs4.8K.
And can you tell me the price for HD2900XT and which brand "Gecube" or "MSI".

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:32 AM

^^ Saurav now dont make fun of me coz I think I will need to upgrade my system very soon...can u tell me wats the cheapest but stable 2 x 2GB DDR2 1066mhz ram available.I would like some idea on brands and models...BTW another layman question is that is there too much difference between 667,800 & 1066mhz bus speeds...if not then I will just add another 1GB 667mhz for the time being as a stop gap measure...my system badly needs more ram...I'm really scared that DDR2 prices will increase since DDR3 is out and it wud soon be phased out like DDR1....

Bobby, 1066 is not official... Crosiar's Dominator 800 MHz Series can go in that speed but when u OC from ur Mobo... !!!

but Bobby, its around Rs. 18k in kolkata for 2 (2x1) GB Modules :(

There is not much of a differnce under Stock with 667 or 800... but when u OC, i will see the Difference...

would it make more sense to buy the ram online from sites like memory configurator or buy it locally?

Make no mistake, I paid Extra Rs. 780 to receive my ThermalRight ultra, John paid Rs. 900 to receive his Cooler to Customes to get it cleared :p that too it was just peice of Metal (heatsink) :lol:

So Beware, I suggest dont order from site based in out side of India, order from those who will only ship from India :D unless try and buy from Local store :p unless there is no option...

premsharma

19-09-2007, 02:33 AM

ASUS P5K-V (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1652&modelmenu=1) Price Rs. 8k but Not Available in Kolkata, because dealers only storing P5K-VM which is Rs. 7200/- + TAX and its uATX :(

For information, personally i feel Intel Original G33 Boards are crap :p

This board has only one p/s 2 port, so u have to have usb mouse. In that case why not MSI G33 Neo or MSI G33 Platinum. your sugestion please

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:34 AM

Thanks,
And the query about power supply??
Is zeb diamond 640W is good?Retails for Rs4.8K.
And can you tell me the price for HD2900XT and which brand "Gecube" or "MSI".

Sorry I am totally Dumb about ATi pricing :( , really no dealer here at Kolkata stocks any :( last time toook 8 hours to actually find ATi x1600 pro :lol:

for SMPS... whats wrong with Cooler Masters ?? 600 / 620 Watts would serve ur purpose I suppose ?? they are about 4k too

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 02:35 AM

There's a problem,I have seen compatibility issues with nvidia chipset and ATI GFX and my brother has also suggested that not to go for this combo.The companies might tell us that its good,but they also hide a lot.
The online hardware reviewing sites have stated that the 2900XT takes more power than the 8800GTX.

IS this mobo good

MSI G965M-FI -
Specs: Intel G965, Pentium 4/Pentium D/Celeron D/Pentium 4 EE/Pentium XE/Core 2 Duo, HT Ready, LGA775, Onboard Intel GMA X3000 Graphics,8GB DDR2 533/667/800MHz, 1066MHz FSB, SATA RAID, Realtek ALC883 HD Audio 7.1ch, Gigabyte Ethernet (1Gbps), PCI Express x16, ATX
Rs. 7,450/-

And this one too-

ASUS P5B-VM -
Specs: Intel G965, Pentium D/Celeron D/Pentium 4/Core 2 Duo/Core 2 Extreme, HT Ready, LGA775, Onboard Intel GMA X3000 Graphics, 8GB DDR2 533/667/800MHz, 1066MHz FSB, SATA RAID, ADI AD1988 HD Audio 7.1ch, Gigabit Ethernet (1Gbps), PCI Express x16, PCI Express x4, ATX
Rs.7,000

MSI P965-Neo F -
Specs: Intel P965, Pentium 4/Pentium D/Celeron D/Pentium 4 EE/Pentium XE/Core 2 Duo, HT Ready, LGA775, 4GB DDR2 533/667/800MHz, 1066MHz FSB, SATA RAID, Realtek ALC883 HD Audio 7.1ch, Gigabit Ethernet (1Gbps), PCI Express x16, ATX
Rs. 5,450/-

Hope there's a bios update for 1333Mhz FSB.

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:42 AM

^^^

For branding personally I prefer Cooler Master over ZEb but its just personal opinion :p

I have seen compatibility issues with nvidia chipset and ATI GFX

Me too agree on it... in that case increase the budget to think for a P35 based board :p or P5K-V (if u find it)... this is good one based on G33 but problem is availibility :(

@Harvik780

Intel Replaced G965 with G33 ... think for G33 now over G965 ones

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 02:45 AM

The ASUS P5-VM now supports 1333Mhz FSB,checked the site,the bios has been updated.Will it be a good overclocker.

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:48 AM

The ASUS P5-VM now supports 1333Mhz FSB,checked the site,the bios has been updated.Will it be a good overclocker.

P5B-VM and P5K-VM are to different board :p

:lol:

which one u are talking about ???

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 02:48 AM

P5B-VM and P5K-VM are to different board :p

:lol:

which one u are talking about ???
P5B-VM

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:50 AM

This board has only one p/s 2 port, so u have to have usb mouse. In that case why not MSI G33 Neo or MSI G33 Platinum. your sugestion please

if you dont mind can u please eloborate ur neds and what else hardware u plan to run.. with ur Budget, that would be easy to judget which board would be good for ur use !!!

:)

P5B-VM

I already wrote, Intel replaced G965 with G33, ASUS P5B-VM is a G965 based board... its good over clocker but better option is ASUS P5K-VM which is G33 based board and its better :D

P5K-VM is Rs. 7200/- + TAX :D

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 02:52 AM

if you dont mind can u please eloborate ur neds and what else hardware u plan to run.. with ur Budget, that would be easy to judget which board would be good for ur use !!!

:)

I already wrote, Intel replaced G965 with G33, ASUS P5B-VM is a G965 based board... its good over clocker but better option is ASUS P5K-VM which is G33 based board and its better :D

P5K-VM is Rs. 7200/- + TAX :D
Ok i'll go for P5K-VM.

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 02:54 AM

Ok i'll go for P5K-VM.

Its comes with Native support for FSB 1333 Processors :D

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1690&modelmenu=2

but try and see if u can find the ATX version of it.. that P5K-V :D se whats the price for it...

premsharma

19-09-2007, 03:00 AM

My requirement is ATX board in G33, with which i will combine intel C2D 6XXX series processors [not decided yet]. I have 2GB of kingston RAM 667 mhz, which i will upgrade to 800 mhz of kingston or corsair. I don't want that asus board which you suggested because that has only one p/s 2. Budget within 9000 or so

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 03:04 AM

@premsharma

Dont mind Just discussing few points with u... whats the Special Reason with G33 and ATX...

In todays board format, with ATX u will have Crosfire or SLi, without ATX u would have single PCI-E... few ATX boards has one extra PCI slot... but now days u have onboard LAN / IEEE / USB and no one needs Modem :lol: so 2 PCI Slots are enough...

So whats the SPecial Reason for G33 ??

now for rest config... why dont u consider XFX 650i Ultra (4.8k + TAX) + XFX 8400 GS (2.5k + TAX) ??

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 03:05 AM

Its comes with Native support for FSB 1333 Processors :D

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1690&modelmenu=2

but try and see if u can find the ATX version of it.. that P5K-V :D se whats the price for it...
I could not find the price for p5k-V.
Checked at price guru and itwares.

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 03:07 AM

I could not find the price for p5k-V.
Checked at price guru and itwares.

No No, I requested you to check at local market at Mumbai (u are at mumbai right ??) its not a very populer board because of the availibility but some time when u search locally u see few may have stock for it... this one comes with Crossfire :D and its a Good Over Clocker too :D check here,

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1652&modelmenu=1

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 03:12 AM

No No, I requested you to check at local market at Mumbai (u are at mumbai right ??) its not a very populer board because of the availibility but some time when u search locally u see few may have stock for it... this one comes with Crossfire :D and its a Good Over Clocker too :D check here,

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1652&modelmenu=1
No I am not in Mumbai,:D
Well but i'll check if rashi can source it for me as they deal in asus products.If I am correct it should cost Rs6200+tax.
And I am glad that it has crosfire.
:)

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 03:16 AM

@Harvik780

Do post the price.. as because of non availibility here at Kolkata its touching over 8k :lol:

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 03:23 AM

@Harvik780

Do post the price.. as because of non availibility here at Kolkata its touching over 8k :lol:
I'll post the price tomorrow when i call rashi.
Well i bought these from asus last time which were not available in here but they didn't raise the price a bit and sourced them for me from abroad and the main godown.
Mobo-P5N32-E SLI
GFX-8800GTS 640MB

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 12:51 PM

Which cpu is better c2d E6750, C2D E6850 or Quad core 6600? I need to use the pc for graphic animations music autocad...2 gb or 4gb ram wud be required? and which motherboard with particular processor.. thanks pls reply as soon as possible..

Please mentioned ur full budget, and do u need a full PC configuration ?? i mean Monitor + CPU + UPS or just the CPU (Proy + Mobo + Card) ??

Sorry I missed the post...

Harvik780

19-09-2007, 12:59 PM

Ok choto I called tirupati and rashi.Rashi said that P5K-V is not the list of motherboards they deal with.This is what i have been told
P5K-V not available
P5K-VM -Rs8500+Tax
P5K-C -Rs9900+Tax(reported as a replacement for P5K-V)
Gecube HD2900XT-Rs 25000+Tax(Reported by tirupati)
Msi HD2900XT -Not available

I have changed my mind about the GFX card,i'll be going for point of view Geforce 8800GTS 320MB from tirupati.

Thanks again choto.

Reena

19-09-2007, 01:01 PM

Well i dont need speaker..or sound card rite now...or key brd and mouse can do..and budget i wanna try to keep it betw 50k to 55k if possible.

Choto Cheeta

19-09-2007, 01:21 PM

50k Need Heavy Auto Cad...

as for ur needs u said here and in Yahoo IM... this is what I feel would be best for u in my opinion...

19" CRT Non Wide Screen Display @ Rs. 8000/- + TAX
Q6600 @ Rs. 12500/- + TAX
ASUS P5K-C @ Rs. 8500/- + TAX
4 GB DDR-II 800 MHz @ Rs. 8000/- + TAX
250 GB SATA-II 16 MB Buffer @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT 256 MB GDDR3 @ Rs. 6700/- + TAX
Any Large Cabinet with Good Ventilation + PowerSafe / Zebronics / ColorSit 500 Watts @ Rs. 2200/- + TAX
APC 650 VA @ Rs. 2500/- + TAX

TAX Rs. 2040 at 4% VAT (Kolkata)

Total 53040

For auto Cad I think Q6600 is good...

U will need Non Wide screen Large high resolution display so think of that 19" CRT over any LCD i would say.... Not sure about the brand as in Kolkata, mainly dealers are pushing AOC / SAMSUNG for 19"...

Well I would say consider P5K-C over P5N32-e SLi :D but try to get ATi 2600 sereais card over Nviodia 8600 :D 8600 would worn just fine, but its better u put a ATi Card under that hood :D see if u can find the ATi Counter part of nvidia 8600, price would be around 1k high for 8600 which i mentioned but u should go for that :D

S!D

19-09-2007, 05:35 PM

I have an ASUS M2A-VM.
As u know, the onboard chip is ATI.
I plan to get a 1GB module and a decent GFX Card after pujas.
I was planning to go for the 8600GT, but I heard somewhere that it might conflict with the chipset. Shud I rather go in for an ATI card, if so..then I have no clue abt ATI cards..please suggest a few.

jackal_79

20-09-2007, 11:31 PM

Does any body know whether XFX 650i Ultra and XFX 8600 GT is supported in Fedora ?. If yes can someone tell where can i get the drivers?

Choto Cheeta

21-09-2007, 01:16 AM

^^^

Yeah they are, for both visit here, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and here, http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

Harvik780

22-09-2007, 02:52 PM

Choto I have bought an ADSL 2/2+ modem from rashi brand is compex and model no. is MRL21E.How is it??And have I made a mistake buying it Purchase Price:Rs1600(MRP written on box is 3750)

Choto Cheeta

22-09-2007, 03:38 PM

^^^

I wont say its a BAD buy :) but do u have any problem with BSNL given modems ??

Harvik780

22-09-2007, 11:31 PM

^^^

I wont say its a BAD buy :) but do u have any problem with BSNL given modems ??
Sorry for the late reply,
This modem is better than the bsnl modem,and i get very good response,the sites open at a click.

However i found that my SNR upstream and downstream is around 6-6.5 which is pathetic,autenation is 27 downstream and 9.5 upstream which is also very poor,i am gonna change my wiring from the pole manually tomorrow.

Do u wanna know what happened to the previous modem,actually i was on the roof dancing with the modem when the BSNL guys came by and accidentally the modem fell on one of their heads,and guess what it was the modem that broke and just as it hit the head of the BSNL guy there was loud sound like "tunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn"
:D

adithyagenius

23-09-2007, 11:16 AM

Help me with this config.
Cheapest config which has the following. Around 45k max excluding tax
1. 8800GTS 320MB any brand
2. 2 gb ddr2 ram any frequency
3. any good mobo, should have 5.1 onboard and lan and atleast 2 pci or 1 pci and 1 pci express 1x. Atleast 6 USB front + back combined. No need of onboard gfx
4. any dual core which doesnt bottle neck the graphics by more than 20% on stock speeds and compatible with mobo ofcourse
5. atleast 160gb 7000+ rpm with 5 year warranty hdd
6. dvd writer with dual layer read capabilities. no need to lightscribe.
7. Suitable smps and cabinet for the build to handle south indian summers. I think zebronics rage cabinet and 500w platinum smps.
8. 17" crt with geometry adjustments and should support 85hz refresh rates at 1024*768 resolution
9. a 2.1 speaker system near atp3 quality or a decent 5.1 to play games should cross 3k
10. a ups that can give 3mins of power to the above config while playing games.

Choto Cheeta

23-09-2007, 11:42 AM

@adithyagenius

Personal I would bet on this,

Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 @ Rs. 4800/- + TAX
XFX 650i Ultra @ Rs.4800/- + TAX
XFX 8800 GTS 320 MB @ Rs.15000/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 3400/- + TAX
160 GB SATA-2 Segate @ Rs.2000/- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on @ Rs.1300/- + TAX
Any Lagre well ventilated Cabinet @ Rs. 800/- + TAX
Cooler Master 600 Watts @ Rs. 3500/- + TAX
LG 17” 700E @ Rs. 4350/- + TAX
APC 650 VA @ Rs.2500/- + TAX
Creative 5.1 insipre @ Rs.3800/- + TAX

Rs. 46250/- + TAX

vish786

23-09-2007, 11:49 AM

can someone please tell me what would b current price for ati x1650 graphics card. ? & which one should i go for
Radeon x1650 (normal one)
Radeon x1650 Pro
Radeon x1650 XT
which one should i go for
.... (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68915)

adithyagenius

23-09-2007, 12:00 PM

@choto cheeta
isnt 8800 gts 17k without tax? Thats the min in hyd

keith_j_snyder2

24-09-2007, 01:33 AM

@choto cheeta
isnt 8800 gts 17k without tax? Thats the min in hyd

Well its actually the dealer prices. Different states have different price.....in other words u have to bargain as much as u can or seek for the cheapest one in ur town!

Choto Cheeta

24-09-2007, 01:45 AM

^^^^

Quite right... it really differ at some states... !!! :|

jackal_79

24-09-2007, 12:58 PM

of three motherboards,

XFX 8600 GT, ASUS P5N-E SLI AND P5K/ P5K-VM which is best?.Please advice.Also please point out the advantage.

Choto Cheeta

24-09-2007, 01:07 PM

XFX 8600 GT is a Grfx Card... not a Motherboard...

and really u cant compare those 3 :( those are really different from each other and usage...

P5K-VM => http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1690&modelmenu=2

is one onboard x3100 based board... it will allow you OC... its uATX...

P5K => http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1637&modelmenu=1

Its for high Over Clocking, will not come with any onboard video...

P5N-E SLi => http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1474&l1=3&l2=11&l3=473

its one Nvidia 650i Chipset based SLI board... budget performance... no onboad video...

jackal_79

24-09-2007, 01:23 PM

>choto cheeta
Sorry there.
What i meant was XFX 650i Ultra.Can you help me in choosing one of the three.If the price difference is not huge i would like to choose something that i can use atleast for next three years.

Choto Cheeta

24-09-2007, 01:26 PM

^^^

Please post full budget and purpose and what ense hardware are you planing to buy ?

jackal_79

24-09-2007, 01:56 PM

> Choto cheeta

Budget 20-22K
Grfx: decided on XFX 8600 GT.
Proc:Intel C2D (model not decided)
Mobo: XFX 650i Ultra / ASUS (Please suggest good one for gaming)
SMPS: Plz suggest

shantanu

24-09-2007, 02:17 PM

Hi all , posting here for a friend of mine ! :)

He called up with his Budget and asked me the best config he can get with it !

He is having just 15k. and wants a decent performaing PC for Accounting.. the must is just 512 MB RAM, 80GB HDD ,DVDRW, and a 17" CRT
so guys Please help out soon, as he is interested in Buying the PC in a day or TWO...

thanks

shantanu

Choto Cheeta

24-09-2007, 10:40 PM

@shantanu

Sorry for late reply...

within 15k and 17" is the need ... I would try out this bellow config...

LG 17” CRT @ Rs. 4300/- + TAX
AMD X2 3600 @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
MSI K9AGM2 @ Rs.2450/- + TAX
512 MB DDR-II @ Rs. 850/- + TAX
80 GB SATA @ Rs. 1775/- + TAX
DVD RW @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
Cabinet + SMPS @ Rs. 1200/- + TAX
Keyboard Mouse Local Cheap ones @ Rs. 400/- + TAX
UPS @ Rs. 1400/- + TAX

TAX @ 4% 651

Total 16926

Cant Manage under 15k in that case either you have to buy AMD Semprom based system or cut down the 17" to 15" !!!!

@jackal_79 Budget or 22k for just a motherboard ?? or full system ?? as u can get a full system under that Budget with those PC Components you have selected !!!

:(

bikdel

25-09-2007, 11:14 PM

Hello....

@choto cheeta

im lookin for a budget DX10 solution...

Any 8 series gfx card from NVIDIA ... the lowest would do........

I heard that 8400 n 8300 bot are OEM versiond but we get to buy 8400........ is 8300 also available???

also , intel has said that "if everything went right, DX 10 support would be incorporated in Intel GMA X3000"......... how true is this??

Should i wait and rather go for g965 based mobo?

Choto Cheeta

25-09-2007, 11:17 PM

^^

XFX 8400 GS is Rs. 2600/- + TAX

not a bad card when compare with G965 (x3000) or G33 (x3100)

tell us your need, and budget for the purpose !!!

blueshift

26-09-2007, 06:11 PM

My friend need an assembled desktop under a budget of 25000/- extendable upto 4000/-.

One dealer gave the following configuration for 28000/-(including taxes)

AMD Athlon X2 4000+
Asus mobo(with onboard nVidia gfx)
1GB DDR2 667MHz RAM
160GB SATA
17" TFT monitor
DVD-Writer Sony
Creative SBS 2.1 speakers
KB+mouse
400W SMPS with cabinet

The proccy and mobo costs 6100/-.
Is the price justified?

My friends requirements are a TFT/LCD monitor, 2.0 speakers since that takes less space.

Which is the best 2.0 speakers?

shantanu

26-09-2007, 06:17 PM

Thanks Choto , i was also not online, for quite sometime.. got back.. and my friend got a PC with AMD Sempron 3400+ , and rest all same config..

Charan

26-09-2007, 08:19 PM

Hey guys guess what..... my dad wants a comp for himself :p

Main Use: Watching DVD's, TV and also to record TV shows. He has a Video iPod, so there will be some video ripping as well. I used Computerwarehousepricelist.com as my reference for the prices.

I need a 19" monitor for this. Best of the lot in quality and colour reproduction.I can spend 13K max on this.
Lets see the list mobo and procy last.

Other stuff

RAM - 1 GB DDR 2 @ 800 MHz-- Rs.1920
HDD - 250 GB SATA ----------- Rs.2800
DVDRW----------------------- Rs.1600
KBD+Mouse ( wireless ) ------- Rs.2500
Cabinet should be very slim ---- Rs.2000
Tv tuner ---------------------- Rs.3000

This comes to Rs. 13000

I have two choices in the cabinet one from iBall and other from zebronics
I saw the iBall Baby 306 (http://iball.co.in/inner/show_product_details2.asp?catid=20&pid=113) Cabinet and it was really slim. The other cabinet is the Dhoom Super Slim (http://www.zebronics.net/superslim.asp) zebronics, but doesnot look good compared to the iBall baby. Please suggest other slim cabinets.

Now a few items than can go in this new system from my old system.

I have 3 HDD's 80,120 and 250. I can add 120 GB hdd to the new one and save some cost.

I have a frontech Tv tuner card, but this is not compatible with Vista Media center. but it does work with other PVR softwares on vista.

next there is my nVidia 7300GT 256 MB . this can also be moved to the new system if the mobo gfx is not satisfactory.

Now comes Processor. I have to think of 5200+ or E4400, which one is better? I will not be overclocking.

I would like to have a mobo which has DVI output.

Procy+Mobo : I want this to be limited to 10 K

so 13k+13k+10K = 33K max .. I want this to go down to 30K max. I have rounded off the prices to cover the taxes also ;)

Pls suggest :D

se7en_sg

27-09-2007, 08:26 AM

Hi, I needed some advice regarding DIMM (RAM) brands;
at present my PC's got 1 GB (ZION DDR2 667MHz) &
i am planning to upgrade the same to 2 Gigs.
First of all, is having DIMMs from 2 different brands but SAME FREQ. OK?
If yes, then which brand should I go for - Corsair, Transcend OR
some other?

I mostly use my PC for various s/w dev. work, with loads of
virtualization so I need more & more RAM. Apart from that,
some gaming (NFS :) and the likes), movies & multimedia
(audio/video editing), etc.

Present config - AMD Athlon 5600+
ZION 1GB DDR2
ASUS M2N-MX
XFX geForce 8600 GT 256MB
Seagate 160 GB SATA HDD
LG 19’ Wide-LCD
400 Watts SMPS
APC 650 VA

Please quote prices & name some vendors in Kolkata, if possible.

Thanks in advance..

Choto Cheeta

27-09-2007, 12:00 PM

First of all, is having DIMMs from 2 different brands but SAME FREQ. OK?

Yes... :)

If yes, then which brand should I go for - Corsair, Transcend OR
some other?

Try transcend its Rs. 1550/- + TAX for 1 GB Last time i asked at Kolkata (chandi)

I mostly use my PC for various s/w dev. work, with loads of
virtualization so I need more & more RAM. Apart from that,
some gaming (NFS and the likes), movies & multimedia
(audio/video editing), etc.

U need a better SMPS... will have stability issueand performance drop if not :( , I suggest ColorSit 450 / 500 watts.... 500 ColorSit watts will be around Rs. 1200/- + TAX

Note these SMPS which comes with Cabinet are no good... they will promiss 400 watts where in real time expect not more than 275 to 300 watts output :(

Main Use: Watching DVD's, TV and also to record TV shows. He has a Video iPod, so there will be some video ripping as well.

hmm... that would the reason and target would be 30k, i would say this bellow is my best bet :D

View Sonic vx1932wm @ RS. 10050/- + TAX

E4400 @ RS. 4800/- + TAX
XFX 650i Ultra @ RS. 4800/- + TAX
XFX 8400 GS @ RS. 2550/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 @ RS. 3200/- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on 20x @ RS. 1300/- + TAX
Zebronics Fancy Cabinet + SMPS @ RS. 3000/- + TAX
Keyboard Mouse Microsft Combo @ RS. 700/- + TAX

TAX @ 4% VAT (Kolkata) => Rs. 1216/-

Total Rs. 31616/-

Take the HDD from older system :) so as the TV Tuner Card... this grfx card will have DVI output :) ...

thnx.. :)

Charan

27-09-2007, 01:27 PM

Thanks for the reply saurav. I want to make some changes to the config you suggested.

Ill go for a 1GB RAM right now, and also I want to drop 8400GD as I already have a 7300GT.

Also I think the mother board is Full ATX, any sugessions on Micro-ATX mobos? :)

cynosure

27-09-2007, 02:47 PM

Hello guys, Tommorow I will be buying my new PC which I will use primarily for gaming and I want it to last for around 3-4 years. My budget is ~60K.
Since the deadly combination of PC + Internet has been out of my reach for a month now I dont know anything about the new updates in the hardware segment.:(

Anyways here is my config which I plan to buy, please take a look. I am quoting the prices that were there one month back, please tell me if there is any dep. in the prices::

1) C2Q Q6600 ~13K
2) XFX 650i Ultra ~5K
3) 600W PSU from CM
4) Viewsonic 17" widescreen ~8K
5) Kingston 2x2GB RAM 800MHz ~ 2.2K x 2
6) Altec Lansing ATP3 ~2.7K
7) XFX 7600GT ~ 7K
8) Which UPS will be good enough to run this config??
9) Seagate 320GB HDD SATA 2
10) Anything else which I might have forgotten?

Will this config be good enough for 4 years given the fact that I will be upgrading my gfx card in Q2 2008.:)

Please reply at the earliest!!

jackal_79

27-09-2007, 07:27 PM

need some advice.
i have decided on following h/w for my upgradation.i use my systme mainly for gaming.Please advice if this is ok.
mobo: XFX 650i Ultra
Proc: C2D E6550
Grfx: XFX 8600 GT (already bought)
RAM: Will 1 GB be enough?
SMPS: how much is needed?

se7en_sg

28-09-2007, 12:32 AM

1) C2Q Q6600 ~13K
2) XFX 650i Ultra ~5K
3) 600W PSU from CM
4) Viewsonic 17" widescreen ~8K
5) Kingston 2x2GB RAM 800MHz ~2.2K X 2
6) Altec Lansing ATP3 ~2.7K
7) XFX 7600GT ~ 7K
8) Which UPS will be good enough to run this config??
9) Seagate 320GB HDD SATA 2
10) Anything else which I might have forgotten?

Please reply at the earliest!!

Hi cyno, i would advice you to for a 19'' widescreen
instead of a 17'' one, the difference is about 2K and its WORTH IT !

As for the grfx, 7600 is history, go for 8600GT 256MB (6.8K) or 8600 GTS.

. . .

cynosure

28-09-2007, 12:38 AM

Hi se7en, I can consider a 19" monitor if my budget allows.
There are still Dx9.0 games coming out and they will still come for about 7-8 months, so I thought why not draw the max juice out of 7600 cards as they are better than 8600 in DX9.0 games. Most of the upcoming games are dx9.0 so this is what I thought.

Moreover the 8700 will be released somewhere in Dec, so why not I buy a decent 7600 card and upgrade to 8700 in the future when it releases?

nishantv2003

28-09-2007, 10:33 PM

1st of all sorry to bug u all again:)

guys i want to buy,
a cpu, a mobo, hdd, ram, cd drive, a cabinet and a 17" flat monitor.

currently i have amd athlon 64 and i love amd:)
but it seems now intel has overtook them with the core 2 duo's...

i have made 2 options for my self but i seriously need help from u guys..

1.INTEL

c2d E6750 -Rs.8200
any mobo supporting p33(onboard vga) -under Rs.5000(u guys tell me, which 1 to take)
seagate sata 2 hdd (16mb) -Rs.2900.
ram kingston/transcend/corsair 1gb 800fsb? - Rs.2200(pls correct me and tell me which 1 to take).
dvd rw sony/liteon -Rs.1500.
any cabinet (with psu 450?) - under Rs.2000.
monitor 17" flat crt philips/lg/samsung or viewsonic - Rs.6000.
Total- approx Rs.28000.

2.AMD

X2 6000+ -Rs7900.
Asus M2A-VM(onboard gfx) -Rs.3650.
seagate sata 2 hdd (16mb) -Rs.2900.
ram kingston/transcend/corsair 1gb 800fsb? - Rs.2200(pls correct me and tell me which 1 to take).
dvd rw sony/liteon -Rs.1500.
any cabinet (with psu 450?) - under Rs.2000.
monitor 17" flat crt philips/lg/samsung or viewsonic - Rs.6000.
Total- approx Rs.26000.

so, guys what do u say???

Rates taken from http://www.deltapage.com/

shady_inc

28-09-2007, 11:11 PM

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66140

ravi_9793

28-09-2007, 11:15 PM

Ofcourse Intel.

any cabinet (with psu 450?) - under Rs.2000.
Price wil be rs.1200/-

ram kingston/transcend/corsair 1gb 800fsb? - Rs.2200(pls correct me and tell me which 1 to take).

Kinston is good choise

monitor 17" flat crt philips/lg/samsung or viewsonic - Rs.6000.
Add 2 K more and get 17" LCD moniter.
This will consume less power.

nishantv2003

28-09-2007, 11:37 PM

thanx ravi 4 ur reply:)
i dont want 2 take lcd coz i watch lots of movies and watching movie on lcd is a pain espically when u r seeing lying down on ur bed....
and
the price i have mentioned, r they correct?
and pls tell me more abt which monitor, ram(what fsb) and which cpu and why and which mobo? etc.

thanx

shantanu

28-09-2007, 11:44 PM

Zebronics flatron is 4500/- so i guess samsung and lg ones would be not more than 5000/- :)

(17")

Choto Cheeta

28-09-2007, 11:48 PM

ravi_9793

28-09-2007, 11:53 PM

and pls tell me more abt whic(wh monitor, ramhat fsb) and which cpu and why and which mobo? etc.

thanx
before deciding RAM fsb, make sure your motherboard support it.

CRT Moniter-->> Lg flatron, E700SH,17", flat, black.. Price 5K

Tell me ur budget on motherboard and processor.Than I can suggest you something.

nishantv2003

29-09-2007, 12:02 AM

@nishantv2003

There is no P33 Chipset :( as u said... :( its G33 what Intel makes, please let me know if any other chipset manufactures has come up with such name as P33...

u do have 2 config in ur mind, before I can comment I would ask you ur full budget and what will be the purpose of the computer :)

thnx...

u r right i wrote that wrong.
it is G33.

and ravi

i think now days almost every mobo(for amd or intel) has support for ddr2 800 ram.

and i want 2 buy:- a cpu, a mobo, hdd, ram, cd drive, a cabinet and a 17" flat monitor under 30k.

ravi_9793

29-09-2007, 12:12 AM

and ravi

i think now days almost every mobo(for amd or intel) has support for ddr2 800 ram.

and i want 2 buy:- a cpu, a mobo, hdd, ram, cd drive, a cabinet and a 17" flat monitor under 30k.
Processor-->>Intel C2D E4400 ,price 5K
Motherboard-->>ASUS -P5B-VM,price 7.5K
Hard disk-->> Seagate/WD, 250 GB, price 3K
RAM-->> Kingston 800 Mhz, 1 GB, price 2k
Drive, sony DVD r/w-->> Price Rs. 1300/-
cabinet-->> any with 450 watt SMPS, price rs. 1200/-
CRT Moniter-->> Lg flatron, E700SH,17", flat, black.. Price 5K

Total Rs. 25K

The_Devil_Himself

29-09-2007, 08:55 AM

^^+1 but why save 5k you can buy a better processor like e6750.
RAM:if you can afford corsair RAM buy them they are surely much better than Kingston(and performs better at overclocking).
Monitor:Buy a 19' crt if you can find one.The extra 2' are well worth of purchasing.
Drive:BUY ONLY LITE-ON DVD WRITER.they are the best.
HARD disk:seagate\wd 250gb sata 2 should be around 2.6k.

nishantv2003

29-09-2007, 08:58 AM

thanx ravi for such good config:)
but,
can processor b -c2d E6750 :-Rs.8.2k
and mobo - asus or msi with onboard gfx(G33 chipset or better) :- Rs.under 5k.
by this ill have a very good processor and a good mobo and i can add a gfx card later:)
and ths will b under 30k...

edit:
thanx the devil:)
ur right bro, that is wat i was saying but said it before me:)
by the way how much corsai ram will cost 1gb 800hz?
and pls suggest me a good mobo.

P.S. And 1 more thing guys,
is there any point in wating 4 the AMD Phenom x3 processors?

Hulk

29-09-2007, 08:47 PM

Hi Guys,
Need Help. Thought of upgrading the system. Here thought some configuration.
COnfiguration-1:
1) Processor- AMD X2 Dual Core 5000 -RS5600/-
2) Mother Board- ASUS M2N-PV-VM -Rs4400
3) RAM-Transcend 1GB DDR2 Ram @ 667Mhz -Rs1239
4) Graphics Card-XFX 8600 GT 512MB -Rs6555
5) Hard Disk-250 GB Seagate (7200RPM) -Rs2753

COnfiguration-2:
1) Processor- AMD X2 Dual Core 4400 -RS3650/-
2) Mother Board- ASUS M2A_VM_HDMI -Rs4800
3) RAM-Transcend 1GB DDR2 Ram @ 667Mhz -Rs1239
4) Graphics Card-XFX 8600 GT 512MB -Rs6555
5) Hard Disk-250 GB Seagate (7200RPM) -Rs2753

I am week end Gamer.
Please let me know whihc is best configuration. I am going to buy tomorrow.

Thanks In advance,
Hulk.

go4saket

29-09-2007, 09:10 PM

Hey guys, what happened to the Penryn series of Processors. Are they already launched or we still have to wait for them, and if not yet launched, any ideas of when are they supposed to be launched...

Siriusblack

30-09-2007, 12:05 AM

Guys i just want to upgrade my system from 3 ghz 939 Athlon 64 to something better Its running on A8N-e Asus Mobo right now. I have 2 choices in Mind..

1. The Intel Way

E4400

2. Along Amd

Amd 4800+

Pls suggest a suitable mobo also for both configs along with prices..

I was inclined toward amd but anandtech recent cpu story made me think about E4400. The system is required for gaming and i already own a 6800 gts card so keep that in mind...

My budget for this is 9k -10 tops so pls suggest some value for money. I found out that Asus mobos for Amd were cheaper and had more features than the INTEL mobos for the C2D's so me in a dillema , since the price of both proccy is roughly same ........

Thnx for reply....in advance

nishantv2003

30-09-2007, 12:08 AM

hey guys..
done some searching and found out that asus P5K-VM(for e6750) is a very good mobo.
what do u guys say? any other suggestions?
and
what will b its price?

Choto Cheeta

30-09-2007, 12:13 AM

@nishantv2003

P5K-VM is a really good board if u need onboard solution... where as its Rs. 7200/- + TAX kolkata....

and do consider option for XFX 650i ultra Rs. 4800/- + TAX with XFX 8400 GS which is Rs. 2600/- + TAX :)

@Siriusblack

U have a Budget of RS. 10k for Both Procy + Mobo ??

nishantv2003

30-09-2007, 09:17 AM

thanx choto cheeta once again:) u r really helping me:)
pls tell me is this board good xfx 650i ultra and how it is compared to asus P5K-VM.
and also could u pls give me the price of asus P5K(P35) board.
thanx

arun_chennai

30-09-2007, 09:52 AM

Hey guys, what happened to the Penryn series of Processors. Are they already launched or we still have to wait for them, and if not yet launched, any ideas of when are they supposed to be launched...

Penryn QX9650 (999$) model is getting launched at November 12th...the other mainstream models are going to be launched on Jan 2008 only....

mayneu

30-09-2007, 02:41 PM

hi choto cheeto, i want to know a best mother board and processor from amd. i am upgrading my pc. so i need the mother board , processor and 1 gb ram ddr2. i dont need anything else. should i have to change the cabinet also or the old one will do??? its 4 yrs old. i thin i dont have to change the monitor and the hard disk right???
pls give me the best performance combination in AMD. budget is <10k.
i know it looks silly and awkward to u, but i thought u r the one who can help me here. pls....

Choto Cheeta

30-09-2007, 04:02 PM

pls tell me is this board good xfx 650i ultra and how it is compared to asus P5K-VM.

Well see u cant really compare a TATA Safari and a Maruti Suzuki SX4.... bith are good car both have their own problems and -ve points... one is on SUV platform one is on a Suden platform...

so just like that, XFX 650i ultra comes with no onboard video where as P5K-VM comes with onboard video...

combination of XFX 650i Ultra + XFX 8400 GS will cost more than single P5K-VM board...

but 8400 GS is far better than onboard x3100 (G33) which comes with P5K-VM... so now comes ur need, if you need for completelly for working not much or no gaming then surelly its P5K-VM which I would say the best for you...

If you plan gaming card later on, but now really very little gaming still it would stay P5K-VM...

but if you are a week end gamer who will play new games but under low settings then its 8400 :p

now if you plan a better card later on but will want to play new games from day one then again its 8400 :)

so u chose what do you want ??

@mayneu

i know it looks silly and awkward to u, but i thought u r the one who can help me here. pls....

all members here comes to help each other... so its not only me, any one who can give u idea about certain thread will contribute and do read every ones reply :D

i thin i dont have to change the monitor and the hard disk right???

No change of Monitor / HDD is not required, but u can get better performance from a better SATA-II present gen HDDs rather than ur 4 year OLD IDE one...

but again really if u are low on budget that 4 year old IDE will run absolutelly fine :)

should i have to change the cabinet also or the old one will do???

if its a large cabinet then will do... but u have to change the PSU (SMPS) for sure for the new hardware u plan to buy :(

pls give me the best performance combination in AMD. budget is <10k.

u need Mobo + Procy + RAM for 10k ??

but for most tell us what would be the use for the PC ?? then will be easy to comment !!

:)

thnx...