Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[MetalheadGautham]

Whats the Difference between Intel G31 and Intel G33 chipsets?

My total budget is 30k appox. so whatever balance is left will on the card.
however i can increase my budget 1k if need.
currently i am looking at 4-5k range and willing to buy 8600GT


Ps: please turn off Caps lock:p
As I said before, G31 is the best chipset for you in this budget, since he doesn't want to OC. The base chipset is similar in nature to P35 and hence also supports the same CPUs as P35, but its toned down, and has only two ram slots, weaker onboard graphics, etc.

[gary4gar]

As I said before, G31 is the best chipset for you in this budget, since he doesn't want to OC. The base chipset is similar in nature to P35 and hence also supports the same CPUs as P35, but its toned down, and has only two ram slots, weaker onboard graphics, etc.
Thanks Buddy.
Now going to market to assemble this workstation:)


Thank you all all for your valuable comments:D

[prvprv]

What is the price of ASUS P5KPL-CM mobo

good for overclocking E7200 on this mobo?

[squid]

Hi,
I will be purchasing a new system in another 6 days with the following configuration. My max budget will be 10000 for both processor and the motherboard. I already have 2GB 667Mhz DDr2 Ram and 160Gb HDD. Please suggest me Intel and AMD config. this system will be used for photoshop and text works.
thanks

[MetalheadGautham]

Hi,
I will be purchasing a new system in another 6 days with the following configuration. My max budget will be 10000 for both processor and the motherboard. I already have 2GB 667Mhz DDr2 Ram and 160Gb HDD. Please suggest me Intel and AMD config. this system will be used for photoshop and text works.
thanks
10,000 is *just* enough to get a mainstream AMD rig.
Gigabyte or MSI 780G motherboard - 4.4K
Phenom X3 8450 - 5.5K
(see what I mean by *just* ?)

[keith_j_snyder2]

Hi,
I will be purchasing a new system in another 6 days with the following configuration. My max budget will be 10000 for both processor and the motherboard. I already have 2GB 667Mhz DDr2 Ram and 160Gb HDD. Please suggest me Intel and AMD config. this system will be used for photoshop and text works.
thanks

On the intel part E7200 @ 5600/- & any 630i or G43(if available) chipset based motherboard will do the thing.

[Psychosocial]

Hi,
I will be purchasing a new system in another 6 days with the following configuration. My max budget will be 10000 for both processor and the motherboard. I already have 2GB 667Mhz DDr2 Ram and 160Gb HDD. Please suggest me Intel and AMD config. this system will be used for photoshop and text works.
thanks

Intel E7200 + Intel DG31PR

[mukherjee]

are the samsung 53 series lcd tft monitors available in india yet?

[squid]

10,000 is *just* enough to get a mainstream AMD rig.
Gigabyte or MSI 780G motherboard - 4.4K
Phenom X3 8450 - 5.5K
(see what I mean by *just* ?)

thanks for replying. I have considered M3N78-VM based on geforce 8200 and M3A78-VM based on 780G along with Athlon X2 5400+. What is the price of phenom X3 8450 in chennai. Does it give any significant performance over X2 5400+.

On the intel part E7200 @ 5600/- & any 630i or G43(if available) chipset based motherboard will do the thing.

whether E7200 along with G43 chipset give better performance over the above config. Please suggest.

[Psychosocial]

Intel will alwayz beat AMD ..... so yup keith_i_snyder2's config beats the AMD one ...... Intel wins hands down :)

[keith_j_snyder2]

thanks for replying. I have considered M3N78-VM based on geforce 8200 and M3A78-VM based on 780G along with Athlon X2 5400+. What is the price of phenom X3 8450 in chennai. Does it give any significant performance over X2 5400+.



whether E7200 along with G43 chipset give better performance over the above config. Please suggest.

Dude the M3A78-VM & M3N78-VM are better motherboard but E7200 is the better processor, worth more than 5400+!
The M3A78-VM & M3N78-VM supports hybrid graphics which is a power saving feature & if u r planning for dedicated graphics card.
I mean AMD offers much better motherboard compared to INTEL setup, rest is ur choice what suits u better.
AMD - better motherboard option.
INTEL - better processor option.
My vote E7200+G43!
U choose.

[harryneopotter]

^i dnt think so ....AMD X3 8450 is at par with E7200 with the added advantage of an extra core for multitasking and AMD 780G mobo is faaaaaaaaaaaar batter then any Intel mobo in the same price range (or even 1-2 k more).

@squid
Choose AMD if u r not a heavy overclocker For heavy overclocking, u shld consider Intel.

[rajatrao]

Buying a new system. I already have monitor (21" CRT), Creative Audigy soundcard, Creative Inspire 6.1 speakers, 320 GB SATA Seagate Baracuda hard disks, DVD writer, keyboard and mouse.

I want to play games (like crysis, bioshock etc.) at 1600x1200 with most (if possible, all) effects turned on. Do not want to overclock, I am not a techie. I have decided that it will be an Intel machine. So no AMD please. I run XP but may upgrade to Vista soon. (Should I?)

No fixed budget, but please suggest most economical and trustworthy components that will satisfy my needs (i.e. DX10 gaming at 1600x1200 with almost all effects). I was thinking about 30-40 K spending but I can spend more if it is really needed on following components.

Processor - I am thinking of Core2Duo 8400. Okay?

Motherboard - P35 or P45? Which make and model? It should have 3 PCI slots, to accommodate my sound card, video capture card and extra slot for network card (lightning has burned my on-board network port earlier). The motherboard & processor should be fairly future proof. I won't mind a SLI motherboard with extra graphics slot for future addition.

Graphics - Pls suggest good single NVdia card How much memory needed? No SLI for now. I can add another one in future if newer games demand it.

RAM.- 2 GB or 4GB? make & speed?

Cabinet - not too flashy, but solid.

Power Supply - should be able to run three hard disks and one DVD writer and the graphics card if that too needs power. With good SATA power connectors (3 no.) Which make & power?

So please help. Thanks in advance.

Please also suggest reliable and reasonable shops in Mumbai for above items.

Rajat

[keith_j_snyder2]

^i dnt think so ....AMD X3 8450 is at par with E7200 with the added advantage of an extra core for multitasking and AMD 780G mobo is faaaaaaaaaaaar batter then any Intel mobo in the same price range (or even 1-2 k more).

@squid
Choose AMD if u r not a heavy overclocker For heavy overclocking, u shld consider Intel.

Dude in case u haven't read...i 've compared E7200 and Athlon X2 5400+.
BTW, in any case G43 is an excellent chipset delivers same graphics(X4500) except of the hybrid graphics.
Even though if X3 8450 compared to E7200, i still suggest E7200 over X3 8450 because E7200 is cheaper than X3 8450 & works exceptionally well.

Buying a new system. I already have monitor (21" CRT), Creative Audigy soundcard, Creative Inspire 6.1 speakers, 320 GB SATA Seagate Baracuda hard disks, DVD writer, keyboard and mouse.

I want to play games (like crysis, bioshock etc.) at 1600x1200 with most (if possible, all) effects turned on. Do not want to overclock, I am not a techie. I have decided that it will be an Intel machine. So no AMD please. I run XP but may upgrade to Vista soon. (Should I?)

No fixed budget, but please suggest most economical and trustworthy components that will satisfy my needs (i.e. DX10 gaming at 1600x1200 with almost all effects). I was thinking about 30-40 K spending but I can spend more if it is really needed on following components.

Processor - I am thinking of Core2Duo 8400. Okay?

Motherboard - P35 or P45? Which make and model? It should have 3 PCI slots, to accommodate my sound card, video capture card and extra slot for network card (lightning has burned my on-board network port earlier). The motherboard & processor should be fairly future proof. I won't mind a SLI motherboard with extra graphics slot for future addition.

Graphics - Pls suggest good single NVdia card How much memory needed? No SLI for now. I can add another one in future if newer games demand it.

RAM.- 2 GB or 4GB? make & speed?

Cabinet - not too flashy, but solid.

Power Supply - should be able to run three hard disks and one DVD writer and the graphics card if that too needs power. With good SATA power connectors (3 no.) Which make & power?

So please help. Thanks in advance.

Please also suggest reliable and reasonable shops in Mumbai for above items.

Rajat

Consider ur choice, u already know what u want!
-E8400 is the best choice, if gaming is the priority & E8400 has best VFM.
-Go for BIOSTAR T-Power I45, it broke the record or go for any good P45 chipset like ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte. But i think BIOSTAR one will be the cheapest of all.
-If going for Vista, then look for 4GB (2x2GB) 800MHz otherwise 2x1GB can do the job.
-Wait for 9800GT(if u only wants nVidia graphics card) or ATi HD4850, but HD4850 has better performance.
-CM Xtreme 600W.
-Any cabinet u like.

Hope i 've covered every part u asked & this one comes into budget.

[MetalheadGautham]

thanks for replying. I have considered M3N78-VM based on geforce 8200 and M3A78-VM based on 780G along with Athlon X2 5400+. What is the price of phenom X3 8450 in chennai. Does it give any significant performance over X2 5400+.



whether E7200 along with G43 chipset give better performance over the above config. Please suggest.
The GF8200 has lesser performance than 780G. But if you buy Zotac, its Rs. 1,000 cheaper. So consider it. But at the same time, there also exists 780V. V is similar in performance to GF8200, but it consumes lesser power. So I recommend it STRONGLY if you find it. Meaning, if you ever stumble across 780V, which should be around 3.5K, buy it immidiately. Then you will have 6.5K for the CPU. Go to http://www.deltapage.com for the chennai prices. According to deltapage, Phenom X4 (quad core) 9550 costs 7,300. Its worth it. See if you can extend your budget a bit to get it. And yes, Phenom X3 8450 costs only 4,900. I never knew Chennai had cheap AMD CPUs :o. And yes, these give significant performance over X2 5400+. Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H is the board you should be looking at if you go for 780G, since it costs 4.65K. Perhaps you can find something cheaper.

[dsmarty]

Hi all expert......I am going to upgrade my pc........I am not a gamer so much.....please suggest me the best one.

MOBO- Asus Pk5-VM or anyother?
proc. - Intel C2D E7200 or E8400?
Ram - Kingston 2x1GB 800 Mhz.
HD - Sata 7200 rpm 250 GB
cabinate- please suggest me best one.

If anybody knows INR cost about this configuration then please reply me......thanks in advance.

[rahul777]

Can anyone tell me whether Zotac 8200 is cooler and stable compared to Gigabite 780G and what is the quality of after sales service for these boards. I am also considering Purchasing a HD in the range of 160-250 GB. which brand and model No. is the best?

[Sunny1211993]

I have a Samsung SyncMaster 740N.First tell me if it is LCD or CRT.Nvidia Control Panel is showing it as CRT!!WTF!
Enough of this tiny screen with 8800GTS 512.Tell me some good 22" LCD.Need for heavy gaming.I need HD one.

[MetalheadGautham]

Hi all expert......I am going to upgrade my pc........I am not a gamer so much.....please suggest me the best one.

MOBO- Asus Pk5-VM or anyother?
proc. - Intel C2D E7200 or E8400?
Ram - Kingston 2x1GB 800 Mhz.
HD - Sata 7200 rpm 250 GB
cabinate- please suggest me best one.

If anybody knows INR cost about this configuration then please reply me......thanks in advance.

Whats your budget and whats your use for the PC ?
Can anyone tell me whether Zotac 8200 is cooler and stable compared to Gigabite 780G and what is the quality of after sales service for these boards. I am also considering Purchasing a HD in the range of 160-250 GB. which brand and model No. is the best?
Zotac 8200 is basically a cheap way to get into AMD CPUs. Its weaker in graphics power and has lesser options compared to a good 780G board and has higher power consuption (since 780G is 55nm and 8200 is 65nm) but at the same time costs Rs. 1000 less.
I have a Samsung SyncMaster 740N.First tell me if it is LCD or CRT.Nvidia Control Panel is showing it as CRT!!WTF!
Enough of this tiny screen with 8800GTS 512.Tell me some good 22" LCD.Need for heavy gaming.I need HD one.
8800GTS ? I thought you had GTX ? Anyway, I suggest you get atleast 24" screen. 22" not enough for full HD screen for uber gaming.

BTW, a CRT is a monitor which is large and bulging and looks similar to an old TV. While an LCD is thin and its always flat. I thought you knew that ? Anyway, any sane guy can use this information to recoganise an LCD and a CRT so I guess nVidia Control Panel must be drunk. :rolleyes:

[rajatrao]

Many thanks keith_j_snyder2

So I hve decided on these-
processor - Intel 8400
RAM - 2x2GB 800MHz. Which make?
Power Supply - CM Xtreme 600W
Cabinet- I will go for cooler master. There are some models with external 3.5" bay. Does it mean we can easily connect & remove 3.5" HDD without opening the case? I do need this facility if available.

***Now a specific request***
Please please suggest me a good motherboard & graphics card combination as per my requirements. I mean a set of specific models that are compatible with each other and are easily available in Mumbai. The mobo should have sli/crossfire capacity and the card should be sli/crossfire ready. NVdia or ATI. Both should support PCIe2.0 in full 16X mode. And should let me play Crysis at 1600x1200 with full glory. Also give me price indication.

Thanks again

Rajat

[dsmarty]

Whats your budget and whats your use for the PC ?
my budget around 20k........and my use for pc is.......home entertainment....visual studio dot net.....adobe premier and adobe photoshop.......I m net lover also........so please now suggest best one for me.........thanks

[MetalheadGautham]

my budget around 20k........and my use for pc is.......home entertainment....visual studio dot net.....adobe premier and adobe photoshop.......I m net lover also........so please now suggest best one for me.........thanks
Base:
Seagate SATA-II 7200.11 RPM 32-MB Buffer 500GB HDD - Rs. 4,100 [4,500 max]
RAM - Value DDR2 800MHz 2GB + 2GB - Rs. 3,600 [4,000 max]
[for both, divide everything by 2 to get lower end config]
Zebronics Bijli cabinet with 400W SMPS - Rs. 1,500

Intel:
Intel DG35EC Motherboard - Rs. 5,000 [6,000 max]
Core2Duo E7200 - Rs. 5,500 ==== [or] ==== E8400 - Rs. 8,000

AMD:
Zotac 8200 Motherboard - Rs. 3,500
Phenom X4 9550 - Rs. 7,000 [8,000 max]

AMD has better performance here. If you want a better intel setup, you need to replace the motherboard with a 630i motherboard for 3.5K which would lack dual channel memory, compromising memory performance.

[Psychosocial]

^^dude ,how abt an Abit IP35e ??? and BTW 500GB HDDs cost 3.5k only ....atleast WD's 500 HDD costs 3.2k in my city ....and just 2GB of RAM is 'nuff, dnt u think ?

[MetalheadGautham]

^^dude ,how abt an Abit IP35e ??? and BTW 500GB HDDs cost 3.5k only ....atleast WD's 500 HDD costs 3.2k in my city ....and just 2GB of RAM is 'nuff, dnt u think ?
advice: see the writing in tiny size
And you are talking about 8mb or 16mb buffer HDD. Its not enough for Photoshop.

[Psychosocial]

i think its 16MB .....

[janitha]

It is not just the 16 or 32 MB cache which makes the difference, but mostly the latest larger platter capacity and the perpendicular recording compared to the older generation drives.

[MetalheadGautham]

^^
And thats why I suggested the Seagate 7200.11 Drive. Its got everything. From 32MB buffer to perpendicular recording to cheap price. And if I remember right, in the same range, the 1TB drive is available in SAS too, along with SATA :o

[shantanu]

seagate was my best brand, now its WD (amazing)

[MetalheadGautham]

seagate was my best brand, now its WD (amazing)
Say that to Hitboxx and he will sue you. ;)
[you should have been there at IRC all those months when he used to constantly insult his faulty WD HDDs]

[shantanu]

^^ lol man ! exceptions :D

[dsmarty]

Base:
Seagate SATA-II 7200.11 RPM 32-MB Buffer 500GB HDD - Rs. 4,100 [4,500 max]
RAM - Value DDR2 800MHz 2GB + 2GB - Rs. 3,600 [4,000 max]
[for both, divide everything by 2 to get lower end config]
Zebronics Bijli cabinet with 400W SMPS - Rs. 1,500

Intel:
Intel DG35EC Motherboard - Rs. 5,000 [6,000 max]
Core2Duo E7200 - Rs. 5,500 ==== [or] ==== E8400 - Rs. 8,000

AMD:
Zotac 8200 Motherboard - Rs. 3,500
Phenom X4 9550 - Rs. 7,000 [8,000 max]

AMD has better performance here. If you want a better intel setup, you need to replace the motherboard with a 630i motherboard for 3.5K which would lack dual channel memory, compromising memory performance.

thanks a lot dear...........and this config. sounds very interesting for me........but you suggested me Intel motherboard..........what reason behind it please make it clear...........because I want to buy a asus with intel chipset G33 like P5k-vm or with other chipset....thanks again dear.

[imgame2]

i am looking for good headphones, are any true 5.1 headphones available in market ? i want them for movies,music and games off course. and i don't want to go for 5.1 speaker setups...just way too clumsy and full of wires and moreover i don't have a proper space to keep them oriented for good acoustics.

if not 5.1 then which which other headphones are good ? right now i have narrowed down to this headphone

MDR-XD200

http://www.sony.co.in/product/mdr-xd200/sku/mdr-xd200__ce?site=hp_en_IN_i

i don't know the price and availability of sennheiser headphones ...and also i don't know which is good one...i don't want to spend more than 2.5k on them. please if someone know it ...help me

[MetalheadGautham]

thanks a lot dear...........and this config. sounds very interesting for me........but you suggested me Intel motherboard..........what reason behind it please make it clear...........because I want to buy a asus with intel chipset G33 like P5k-vm or with other chipset....thanks again dear.
I suggested Intel because its cheap. Simple as that. ASUS would have made you spend 3K more if you wanted a modern full fledged chipset with DECENT onboard graphics. G31 or Q35 would have had only GMA 3100 (not X3100), which has too low graphics.

[dsmarty]

I suggested Intel because its cheap. Simple as that. ASUS would have made you spend 3K more if you wanted a modern full fledged chipset with DECENT onboard graphics. G31 or Q35 would have had only GMA 3100 (not X3100), which has too low graphics.

thanks........but What do you think about Intel DP35DP then now config. is

motherboard--- Intel DP35DP--6000
processor--- Intel C2D E8400--8000
ram--- as you told but kingston 1+1--2200
HDD---as you told but 250 GB and --2300
Cabinate-----as you told.--1500

Now suggest final...........thanks

[MetalheadGautham]

thanks........but What do you think about Intel DP35DP then now config. is

motherboard--- Intel DP35DP--6000
processor--- Intel C2D E8400--8000
ram--- as you told but kingston 1+1--2200
HDD---as you told but 250 GB and --2300
Cabinate-----as you told.--1500

Now suggest final...........thanks
P35 has no onboard graphics. You need to spend extra money on that. A really cheap GPU is the 7100GS available for around 1.2K, but its weaker than most modern onboard GPUs today and about as strong as the older generation onboard GPUs and definitely not even close to what AMD offers.

And instead of DP35DP, get MSI version if ever you choose P35.

HDD 250GB will not have 32MB Buffer and often will not have perpendicular recording.

And yes, I still think you will end up with more money left in your wallet if you stick with AMD. ;)
I suppose you can sneak in an 8500GT in hybrid SLI mode into the AMD config to give performance enough to run any game including crysis.

[rajatrao]

I am buidling a gaming PC to play Crysis & Bioshock at 1600x1200 with full effects turned on. Processor (E8400) & other parts I have already finalised.

Please suggest me a good motherboard & graphics card combination. I mean a set of specific models that are compatible with each other and are easily available in Mumbai.

The mobo should have sli/crossfire capacity and the card should be sli/crossfire ready. NVdia or ATI. Both should support PCIe2.0 in full 16X mode. And should let me play Crysis at 1600x1200 with full glory. I will buy single card for now and may be later add another in sli/cf when newer games demand it.

Also give me price indication.

Please help!

Rajat

[mukherjee]

frnz...i will be upgrading my pc....and hence i will be left with 2gb ddr2 667 memory and geforce 8600gt card.

i think i will make a 2nd system....
i hv got the core thingies....hdd/dvdrw/cabby/mouse/kb...

i hv set around a budget of 8k...10k max.
wat rig i can obtain?(mobo+proccy)

plz state both amd and intel configs.....

thnks

[MetalheadGautham]

frnz...i will be upgrading my pc....and hence i will be left with 2gb ddr2 667 memory and geforce 8600gt card.

i think i will make a 2nd system....
i hv got the core thingies....hdd/dvdrw/cabby/mouse/kb...

i hv set around a budget of 8k...10k max.
wat rig i can obtain?(mobo+proccy)

plz state both amd and intel configs.....

thnks
What are your current components ?

[mukherjee]

What are your current components ?

u dont seem to get me...see my config in the siggy at the bottom...
i will be upgrading my grafix card and memory.

so...i want to buy another mobo+proccy........get the old ddr2 ram & 8600gt(from my present system) + add mouse kbrd+ another 250gb hdd(which I will purchase) and a cabby with 400w psu(will purchase).

i hv set aside 8k(10k max) for the proccy & mobo......plz give me a suitable config(both intel & amd)

[MetalheadGautham]

u dont seem to get me...see my config in the siggy at the bottom...
i will be upgrading my grafix card and memory.

so...i want to buy another mobo+proccy........get the old ddr2 ram & 8600gt(from my present system) + add mouse kbrd+ another 250gb hdd(which I will purchase) and a cabby with 400w psu(will purchase).

i hv set aside 8k(10k max) for the proccy & mobo......plz give me a suitable config(both intel & amd)
I think buying another 8600GT for 3.5K and then some good cooler for 2.5K, then putting the 8600GT in SLI and overclocking your current CPU with the help of the cooler should easily make your system top notch. Why exactly are you upgrading ?

[Psychosocial]

I am buidling a gaming PC to play Crysis & Bioshock at 1600x1200 with full effects turned on. Processor (E8400) & other parts I have already finalised.

Please suggest me a good motherboard & graphics card combination. I mean a set of specific models that are compatible with each other and are easily available in Mumbai.

The mobo should have sli/crossfire capacity and the card should be sli/crossfire ready. NVdia or ATI. Both should support PCIe2.0 in full 16X mode. And should let me play Crysis at 1600x1200 with full glory. I will buy single card for now and may be later add another in sli/cf when newer games demand it.

Also give me price indication.

Please help!

Rajat

wats ur budget ??

assuming it mid-range, i suggest u get Abit IP35e + ATi HD4850 :)

i am looking for good headphones, are any true 5.1 headphones available in market ? i want them for movies,music and games off course. and i don't want to go for 5.1 speaker setups...just way too clumsy and full of wires and moreover i don't have a proper space to keep them oriented for good acoustics.

if not 5.1 then which which other headphones are good ? right now i have narrowed down to this headphone

MDR-XD200

http://www.sony.co.in/product/mdr-xd200/sku/mdr-xd200__ce?site=hp_en_IN_i

i don't know the price and availability of sennheiser headphones ...and also i don't know which is good one...i don't want to spend more than 2.5k on them. please if someone know it ...help me

i hv the same set of headphones, i got them after breaking my precious Creative Fatal1ty Headset :( anywyz on the topic- the headset is kool and will suffice for daily usage.

As for Sennheiser, get the HD-201 for 1k easily on the streets :)

[mukherjee]

I think buying another 8600GT for 3.5K and then some good cooler for 2.5K, then putting the 8600GT in SLI and overclocking your current CPU with the help of the cooler should easily make your system top notch. Why exactly are you upgrading ?

actually my bro needs a pc at hostel....and i had alredy decided to upgrade my g.card.... see here ( http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5193&page=190 )....therefore i thought that i will be going in for an overhaul....

so 8k(10k max) for proccy and mobo....
ne suggestions?
both intel & amd config are requested.....and for intel,plz mention 45nm mobo support(for i m thinking abt e7200)

[Psychosocial]

E7200 + Abit IP35e ........best bet for u my friend

im not into AMD, ask MetalHeadGautham abt it :) i stay away fmr it as much as possible :)

[mukherjee]

E7200 + Abit IP35e ........best bet for u my friend

im not into AMD, ask MetalHeadGautham abt it :) i stay away fmr it as much as possible :)

very well....i was thinking along similar lines.....but does the Abit IP35e support Wolfdale and Yorkfield,ie 45nm cpus out of the box? doent it require a bios update for dat?

[Psychosocial]

^^yup, it requires BIOS update :)

[MetalheadGautham]

actually my bro needs a pc at hostel....and i had alredy decided to upgrade my g.card.... see here ( http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5193&page=190 )....therefore i thought that i will be going in for an overhaul....

so 8k(10k max) for proccy and mobo....
ne suggestions?
both intel & amd config are requested.....and for intel,plz mention 45nm mobo support(for i m thinking abt e7200)
Zotac GF8200 mobo [decent onboard gfx] - 3.4k
MSI or Gigabyte 780G mobo [awssome onboard gfx] - 4.4K
get the former if you already have an <nvidia> card. else get the later.

Athlon X2 4600+ 2.4GHz - Rs. 2725
Phenom X3 8450 2.1GHz - Rs. 5000
former *still* rocks and plays crysis. later pwns former, as well as intel E7200.

intel see below. but I recommend amd since its more future proof and cheaper.
amd had recent price cut for some CPUs, hence this low price.
E7200 + Abit IP35e ........best bet for u my friend

im not into AMD, ask MetalHeadGautham abt it :) i stay away fmr it as much as possible :)
purrfect :p
but it will cost 5.5K + 5.5K = 11K. :(
so better go for Gigabyte G31 or P31 based mobo for 3K. :)

[Psychosocial]

^^well suggested :)

Gigabyte G31 will be a good buy.....

afterall u can also lose sanity and buy ASUS Striker eXtreme anytime too :D

[mukherjee]

i want an intel mobo which will support 45nm out of the box,without bios update.....is there any such mobo?

[MetalheadGautham]

i want an intel mobo which will support 45nm out of the box,without bios update.....is there any such mobo?
yeah. Any P31, G31, Q33, G33, P35, Q35 or G35 motherboard :lol:
Enough choice for you ? :D

very well....i was thinking along similar lines.....but does the Abit IP35e support Wolfdale and Yorkfield,ie 45nm cpus out of the box? doent it require a bios update for dat?
no update needed
^^yup, it requires BIOS update :)
go to http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/chipsets/p35/p35-overview.htm

[Psychosocial]

k sorry, i heard somewhere that it needs a BIOS update ......wait it was for the FSB and not the NM ... sorry sorry sorry :)

[imgame2]

i hv the same set of headphones, i got them after breaking my precious Creative Fatal1ty Headset :( anywyz on the topic- the headset is kool and will suffice for daily usage.

As for Sennheiser, get the HD-201 for 1k easily on the streets :)

thanks for replying !
i wanted to know hows the bass response from MDR-XD200 ?

is sennheiser HD201 better than MDR-XD200 ?

any other good model from sennheiser in my price range ?

[Psychosocial]

yup, Sennheiser is better .... i got it bcoz Sennheiser isnt available here .. the bass is quite good, nuthing to boast about but the noise cancellation is quite good, i cnt hear anything frm the sorrounding when im chilling out wid mah iPod Nano and Sony MDR-XD200 .... i dunno abt ur price range much .... Creative Fatal1ty Headset is retailing in Mumbai (i think so) for around 2-2.5k :) its a good headset :)

[imgame2]

yup, Sennheiser is better .... i got it bcoz Sennheiser isnt available here .. the bass is quite good, nuthing to boast about but the noise cancellation is quite good, i cnt hear anything frm the sorrounding when im chilling out wid mah iPod Nano and Sony MDR-XD200 .... i dunno abt ur price range much .... Creative Fatal1ty Headset is retailing in Mumbai (i think so) for around 2-2.5k :) its a good headset :)

thanks again for replying to me,so far i have no luck finding fatal1ty headset in my place ..so i guess i will go for MDR-XD200 ..i will try for sennheiser if i get them i might go for them ...but for now more or less i will go for MDR-XD 200 ....and i hope i will be quite satisfied with them as u are .

thanks once again for all the help!

[utsav]

Guys Western Digital Caviar 640GB is just 3.7k now :shock::shock::shock::shock: loot macha lo :D:D:D:D

[Psychosocial]

Guys Western Digital Caviar 640GB is just 3.7k now :shock::shock::shock::shock: loot macha lo :D:D:D:D

thnx for the kool info man, i need a new HDD .....d/loading too much sh!t :D

[MetalheadGautham]

Guys Western Digital Caviar 640GB is just 3.7k now :shock::shock::shock::shock: loot macha lo :D:D:D:D
8mb buffer or 16mb buffer or 32mb buffer ? :confused:
even if its 8mb, its awssome for just storing music, movies and downloads. :D
thnx for the kool info man, i need a new HDD .....d/loading too much sh!t :D
I still have 80GB HDD :(

[janitha]

8mb buffer or 16mb buffer or 32mb buffer ? :confused:
even if its 8mb, its awssome for just storing music, movies and downloads. :D

I still have 80GB HDD :(

16MB, dual platter, PMR.

One of the best and most sought after discs nowadays. Combine it with a price of just 3.6K and the WD door to door RMA. Definitely not just for storage.

[Psychosocial]

i only have 1TB of space :( and that to filled up :(

[MetalheadGautham]

16MB, dual platter, PMR.

One of the best and most sought after discs nowadays. Combine it with a price of just 3.6K and the WD door to door RMA. Definitely not just for storage.
16MB not enough. 32MB needed for heavy duty work I do.
But I can always get it for just storage purposes, since it still is a great performer.

As I have an old P4 rig, I am usually afraid of upgrades since all that money will go in vain once I upgrade my rig, but since I have SATA ports, I don't mind upgrading HDD :D

i only have 1TB of space :( and that to filled up :(
Get this one then. Its surely VFM for you.

[IronManForever]

16MB not enough. 32MB needed for heavy duty work I do.
But I can always get it for just storage purposes, since it still is a great performer.


If one has enough amount of RAM, then Buffer won't matter much; you can always reserve some amount of RAM act as a Buffer. I just bought 512MB DDR1 RAM today which gives me a total of 768 MB. Am gonna use 30 MB as buffer(My old IDE has just 2 MB :( ), my rig is similar to yours otherwise.

[Psychosocial]

im buying that HDD :)

[utsav]

Me too :D , waiting for monday :(

[acewin]

I have decided to take following. Most of the prices from techshop.in - some components are
locally avail , prices are few hundreds more and less.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Processor 13400
Abit IP35 Pro Motherboard 9,961 ( or ASUS p5K ? )
Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2 800MHz 3100
GRAPHICS CARD ------WHICH ONE----- 0
Western Digital Caviar RE SATA 160GB 7200RPM Hard Drive 3400
Sony SATA AD-7190S-OB DVD Writer 1600
Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W Power Supply 3600
Cooler Master CM 690 Computer Case 4200
ViewSonic 20" VA2026W - Monitor 1680 x 1050 12000
Creative 5.1 Sound Blaster 850
Cooling Device ( like thermal ultra 120 ) NONE right now 0
TOTAL ==================== 52,111/-

thinking ------ hehehehe please read on....
I have some MONEY limitations. Its like > 50,000 its hard to go ahead. I am trying as much...
So right now considering FUTURE, I will get mobo - such that - even new processors will be
able to OC on this well. For e.g. Nehalam from INtel.
I have decided to go MAX on Processor rather than GPU. as my gaming needs are not that high.
So in DUO range I will have E8500. In future I can put (additionally, not as replacement
so that I will have one Best proc of each type ) in QUAD version whatever is good at that time.
GPU - tell me some low end card like 7800 I heard which will be avail for cheap price. BUT it
should be able to play normal games like prince 2 SOT/T2T , AOE 2/3d etc. Actually whatever
MAX possible like evne crysis too!!! I want 512mb but cheap version. I will replace this with better one in future.
Qns ----

1. can someone tell me exact model of ASUS P5K ? - I mean from very first post by chotocheetah
please go tohttp://techshop.in/store/index.php?cPath=21_30&sort=3a&filter_id=10 and tell me which one exactly there.

2. I hope Abit-IP-35-PRO (and ASUS P5K etc. ) will be able to do OClocking on Nehalam processors ?

3. I put more money for EVGA 9600GT 512 MB Knock-out or Super Clock or such any other
SC/OC cards then do I have to use GPU card coolers mustly ?
rightnow I am not using proc cooler -not OCing.

4. considering above GPU thinking, any good but cheap GPU out there ? please suggest -
( I will go for good GPU and quad proc. in future when I will save money and I hope I will be able to put that in this config without any problem....)

Thanks for reading :))

whatever your choice of components be, you canno put in nahelam in those mobos.
pins for nahelam and C2D or C2Q are totally different.

i am looking for good headphones, are any true 5.1 headphones available in market ? i want them for movies,music and games off course. and i don't want to go for 5.1 speaker setups...just way too clumsy and full of wires and moreover i don't have a proper space to keep them oriented for good acoustics.

if not 5.1 then which which other headphones are good ? right now i have narrowed down to this headphone

MDR-XD200

http://www.sony.co.in/product/mdr-xd200/sku/mdr-xd200__ce?site=hp_en_IN_i

i don't know the price and availability of sennheiser headphones ...and also i don't know which is good one...i don't want to spend more than 2.5k on them. please if someone know it ...help me

5.1 channel means, audio coming from 5 channels or speakers you cannot get a 5.1 headset I think, mdr-xd300 is good but priced by sony as 2990, if u can get from local market then price wud be better.

mdr-xd200 is less than 2K around 1.5K

check philips SHP-2700(sub 1500) very good model and decent priced. And I would say philps models have bigger and sothing structure of ear covering speakers than sony. most of the sony models I would say are overpriced.

[goobimama]

Guys Western Digital Caviar 640GB is just 3.7k now :shock::shock::shock::shock: loot macha lo :D:D:D:D
WTF!!! I'm getting one!

[MetalheadGautham]

If one has enough amount of RAM, then Buffer won't matter much; you can always reserve some amount of RAM act as a Buffer. I just bought 512MB DDR1 RAM today which gives me a total of 768 MB. Am gonna use 30 MB as buffer(My old IDE has just 2 MB :( ), my rig is similar to yours otherwise.
But the Calviar series is supposed to be mainstream right ? Can you link me to some of its reviews and its product page so that I may see how good this thing is ?
WTF!!! I'm getting one!
1TB Time capsule and 250GB HDD not enough ?

[nish_higher]

^ 32mb buffer does not matter at all.WD has almost similar performance. and in assorted data tests WD is ahead in read speeds while Seagate having a little better write speeds.
and these things wont matter as long as you are on a 64bit OS with >2gb ram

[MetalheadGautham]

^ 32mb buffer does not matter at all.WD has almost similar performance. and in assorted data tests WD is ahead in read speeds while Seagate having a little better write speeds.
and these things wont matter as long as you are on a 64bit OS with >2gb ram
higher in read speeds ? good for me then. I hoard read-only data.
any benchmarks with XFS file system ? :D

[nish_higher]

:D no it was with XP and Vista 32bit using a E8500 proccy and a X48board.will get the link and put here

[MetalheadGautham]

:D no it was with XP and Vista 32bit using a E8500 proccy and a X48board.will get the link and put here
use gentoo x64 and XFS file system with the same hardware and report back. and yeah, copy really large files. :D

[mukherjee]

yeah. Any P31, G31, Q33, G33, P35, Q35 or G35 motherboard :lol:
Enough choice for you ? :D


no update needed

go to http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/chipsets/p35/p35-overview.htm

Thanks a lot.

so as of now...i hv decided on the following:

c2d e7200 45nm 8)-------5600

mobo-abit ip35e(?p)-------5400(msi p35 neo3?,gigabyte p35s3g?,msi p45 neo?---comment on price n availability plz)---plz confirm out of the box support for 45nm proccy..

ram--2*1gb ddr2 800------2500(i havent decided whther i will go for plain vanilla or some corsair/ocz/gskill value pieces,in no circumstance >2500--comment)

hdd-320gig seagate sata2--2500

odd-samsung 22x dvdrw---1200

cabby-coolermaster elite 331---1700(any other value pieces in mind?)

psu--coolermaster extreme power 600w---3200(corsair vx 450=3250?;wats d price n availabilty of corsair hx520w?;thermaltake purepower 500w?/toughpower 550w?-price/availabilty?----plz comment---no more than 3500 on psu)

my older 8600gt is just a stopgap...i will buy a card in the near future,maybe i will put my new 4850/4870/9800gtx+ in here,havent decided yet.

total(w/out gpu)=11000(cpu+mobo)+2500(ram)+3700(hdd+odd)+4900( caby+psu,still now,max=5200)


edit:i will be ordering a dell se198wfp shortly...so no probs dere.... :D

please put in your comments frnz

[utsav]

Abey tu le le. :D What more u want for 3.6k .imagine its price around 2 yrs back :shock: i was getting a 120gb ide hdd for 3.9k so stuck with 80gb :)) .and if u need performance? Then go for raptors or scsi drives @ 15000RPM :D

[veiga2412]

Guys Western Digital Caviar 640GB is just 3.7k now :shock::shock::shock::shock: loot macha lo :D:D:D:D

Dude! was all excited like... then i saw it wasn't an external.. :(

: :sighs: wishing she owned a desktop :

[Sandeepfrompune]

1. can someone tell me exact model of ASUS P5K ? - I mean from very first post by chotocheetah
please go tohttp://techshop.in/store/index.php?c...a&filter_id=10 and tell me which one exactly there. If more than one then please tell order of better also ( like ..>..>... )

3. I put more money for EVGA 9600GT 512 MB Knock-out or Super Clock or such any other
SC/OC cards then do I have to use GPU card coolers mustly ?
rightnow I am not using proc cooler -not OCing.

4. Suggest any good Graphics card for up to 5000 to 6000. Rs. - it will not be like 8800gt and above I know but i have budget that only... monitor 19/20" (not 22") proc - E8500 3.16ghz. mobo will be Abit-IP35-E or above AsusP5K whatevr if U tell exact.

[acewin]

Sandeep I would suggest P45 based Asus mobo's not P5K series for you models are Asus P5Q and P5Q Pro, most of the people would recommend P5Q Pro.
Which proccy you thought of. I would suggest C2Q 9450, better than E8500
In 5-6K there is Palit 384 MB DDR3 Sonic priced less than 6.5K, this is very good GPU.
Other than this HD3850 512MB DDR3 in around 6.5K desibond knows which company model etc, I do not know, tried to search but I could never get which one it is. If anyone can tell me.

[MetalheadGautham]

Abey tu le le. :D What more u want for 3.6k .imagine its price around 2 yrs back :shock: i was getting a 120gb ide hdd for 3.9k so stuck with 80gb :)) .and if u need performance? Then go for raptors or scsi drives @ 15000RPM :D
15000rpm drinks electricity. high rpm is NOT the best solution for performance, internal design is. :cool:
Dude! was all excited like... then i saw it wasn't an external.. :(

: :sighs: wishing she owned a desktop :
get an external casing :)
you can get one for Rs. 700 more :p

[veiga2412]

15000rpm drinks electricity. high rpm is NOT the best solution for performance, internal design is. :cool:

get an external casing :)
you can get one for Rs. 700 more :p

i've gone by the casing route before.. never ends well.. am very rough with my hardware.. take it around with me wherever i go and stuff... so the pre-packaged stuff is better option for me...

[MetalheadGautham]

i've gone by the casing route before.. never ends well.. am very rough with my hardware.. take it around with me wherever i go and stuff... so the pre-packaged stuff is better option for me...
makes no difference.
BOTH will go boom :p
get a laptop HDD. :)
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92365

[shantanu]

i bought a WD Cavier SE 16 SATA 2 500 GB for 4.5k about 1 month back :(

[morpheusv6]

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K (all inclusive). Expected Life time to next purchase - 2 years
All prices from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - OCZ DDR2 1066 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 4375 (Is 1066 required or is 800 sufficient? Any noticable changes in performance)

[Psychosocial]

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K (all inclusive). Expected Life time to next purchase - 2 years
All prices from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - OCZ DDR2 1066 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 4375 (Is 1066 required or is 800 sufficient? Any noticable changes in performance)

I think that 800MHz would suffice. You can overclock it anytime you think you are not getting the performance you want :). My 2GB DDR2 667MHz is running at 733MHz :D. Your choice of processor is good, stick to it. For a motherboard, get Asus P5Q Pro.You can also opt. for a 680i based board. MSI P45 Platinum is also a good board. If your wallet permits, get a XFX GTX260 OR if the price is too high, get a 9800GTX+ or an ATi HD4850. 4GB RAM will suffice. Get a good 750GB HDD. Other things are upto you. :)

Happy gaming :)

[morpheusv6]

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K. Expected time to next purchase - 2 years

All prices are from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - GSkill DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 2400 (Is 1066 required or is 800
sufficient? Any noticeable changes in performance)
3. Motherboard - MSI P35 Platinum - Rs. 8550 (any suggestions)
4. Graphics card - Ge Cube ATI 4870 - Rs. 19200
5. Hard Disk - Seagate 250 GB (16 MB) x2 in RAID0 - Rs. 4600
6. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - Rs. 3900
7. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W - Rs. 3100
8. Mouse - Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1350
9. Monitor - Dell 2208WFP 22'' LCD - Rs. 16500
10. DVD drive - Liteon SATA DVD 20x - Rs. 1350

Suggest UPS for this configuration, it should provide atleast 15 minutes backup for the full system.

Any changes required in the config?

Thanks.

[MetalheadGautham]

I think that 800MHz would suffice. You can overclock it anytime you think you are not getting the performance you want :). My 2GB DDR2 667MHz is running at 733MHz :D. Your choice of processor is good, stick to it. For a motherboard, get Asus P5Q Pro.You can also opt. for a 680i based board. MSI P45 Platinum is also a good board. If your wallet permits, get a XFX GTX260 OR if the price is too high, get a 9800GTX+ or an ATi HD4850. 4GB RAM will suffice. Get a good 750GB HDD. Other things are upto you. :)

Happy gaming :)
Higher ram clock ==> better for gaming.
Better get 2x HD4850 than GTX260 and better get HD4870 than 9800GTX+.
680i is old and obsolete. Its only good if you have TWO nVidia cards already.
Biostar iTower P45 is supposed to be the best overclocker around recently.
For CPU, get Core2Quad Q9450 :D

[janitha]

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K. Expected time to next purchase - 2 years

All prices are from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - GSkill DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 2400 (Is 1066 required or is 800
sufficient? Any noticeable changes in performance)
3. Motherboard - MSI P35 Platinum - Rs. 8550 (any suggestions)
4. Graphics card - Ge Cube ATI 4870 - Rs. 19200
5. Hard Disk - Seagate 250 GB (16 MB) x2 in RAID0 - Rs. 4600
6. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - Rs. 3900
7. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W - Rs. 3100
8. Mouse - Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1350
9. Monitor - Dell 2208WFP 22'' LCD - Rs. 16500
10. DVD drive - Liteon SATA DVD 20x - Rs. 1350

Suggest UPS for this configuration, it should provide atleast 15 minutes backup for the full system.

Any changes required in the config?

Thanks.

3. Why not MSI P45 Neo - F Intel® P45 Chipset 1333 FSB Rs.6500/-.

Later chipset @lower cost!

And why not a better PSU?

[keith_j_snyder2]

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K. Expected time to next purchase - 2 years

All prices are from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - GSkill DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 2400 (Is 1066 required or is 800
sufficient? Any noticeable changes in performance)
3. Motherboard - MSI P35 Platinum - Rs. 8550 (any suggestions)
4. Graphics card - Ge Cube ATI 4870 - Rs. 19200
5. Hard Disk - Seagate 250 GB (16 MB) x2 in RAID0 - Rs. 4600
6. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - Rs. 3900
7. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W - Rs. 3100
8. Mouse - Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1350
9. Monitor - Dell 2208WFP 22'' LCD - Rs. 16500
10. DVD drive - Liteon SATA DVD 20x - Rs. 1350

Suggest UPS for this configuration, it should provide atleast 15 minutes backup for the full system.

Any changes required in the config?

Thanks.

RAM- get the 2x2GB 800MHZ set.
Motherboard - As Janitha already mentioned P45 or get BIOSTAR T-POWER I45.
HDD - WD 640GB - 3900/-
Graphics card - Wit or recheck the price, the HD4870 selling for 14K or look for Palit HD4850 for 9700/-
Rest of the items are good enough.

[acewin]

MSI P45-Neo in 6.5K or Asus P5Q in 8K or Asus P5Q Pro all being lates P45 chipset based mobos. You decide which one. reset as keith suggests.

Just you need to do a little work up for RAM if using 32 bit OS, as they recognize 3GB only and to get 4GB properly you need to change a little settings
For such config I would say Microtech 1KVA UPS equivalent to 650VA APC in price, APC ones cost alot. Microtech is a reputed UPS same as APC,

[morpheusv6]

9450 has lower clock speed. Anyway games are not optimized for quad core.

I will get the higher clock RAM later when the prices reduce.

2x250 is for RAID0. Better performance as compared to a single 640 GB drive.

changed:
motherboard: P45 based(ASUS P5Q Pro or P5Q E or MSI Platinum)????? Want the option of Crossfire, so that upgrade will be easier in another few months. See post ending.
RAM (Gskill 800 MHz DDR2, 2x 2x1 GB RAM kits = 4 GB RAM)

Will APC 650 VA provide 15 min backup for this load? I already have 650 VA, so need not buy that UPS.

Better PSU? Which one? I thought this was the best in 3-4K price range. 600W should be more than enough.

I was checking tomshardware. They say that there is not much performance improvement over P35 but the power consumption has increased.:(

[MetalheadGautham]

Just you need to do a little work up for RAM if using 32 bit OS, as they recognize 3GB only and to get 4GB properly you need to change a little settings
That issue was fixed ages ago on linux, BSD and solaris. Mac never had that issue. Vista SP1 I think fixes it. So why is this an issue today ? :confused:

[shivkumar]

I am planning to buy a new PC.
Purpose: - basic office work, browsing, light gaming, movies and songs, computational work.
I am not planning any multimedia or photo editing, neither any high end gaming

I plan to have some basic Intel C2D processor & suitable mobo with onboard audio and video support
I don't have any plan of over clockinging.

I am more struck about what combination of processor and motherboard to buy. also I don't have any idea about cabinet and smps .
other things most likely are fixed
250 GB SATA II HDD (Seagate Barracuda) 7200 rpm - 2500/-
1 GB DDR2 RAM 667 MHz x 2 (Transcend) - 1800/-
Lite-on DVD RW - 1200/-
UPS 500W - 2200/-
Keyboard + Mouse - 800/-
Monitor 19'' Viewsonic - 9000/-

This amounts to 16k. I plan to spend upto 25k for full system so remaining 9k for proc+mobo and cabinet+smps.

Please suggest whether, I am planning correct system. What proc+mobo and cabinet+smps to buy. Any other change in the config is also welcome.

PS: I will selling my pc in next 2-3 day, so i need to buy by next week. I am in Cochin if someone can suggest some proper shops then it would be very helpful.

[Psychosocial]

Get Intel Core2Duo E7200 for 5k + a 630i based mobo (eVGA112-CK-NF77-A1 and Abit I-N73HD ) Which are both good mobos and the chipset is quite good too. This rounds off to 7.5k. You can get the Zebronics Bijli cabinet for 1.2k which comes with a pre-installed 400W PSU. So all your queries are solved and you get a good a config too. :)

OR

I will suggest you an AMD config.

AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+ -->> 4.4k
MSI K9A2GM-FIH mobo -->> 4.5k
Zebronics Bijli cabby with PSU(400W) -->> 1k

I know that both the configs exceed your budget by 1k but the price is justified. Try and get this if you can. :)

[manishjha18]

hi i have e 4600 processor-now i want to update to e 7200-i have palit n73pv mobo-but its native bios doesn't support e 7200. ihave to flash it--but somehow i am not able to do it==just cant boot from pen drive with flashing tools-
now i am getting deal to go for e 7200 and xfx 630i mobo-for 1500 approx--is it worth
any suggestion --i am going to finalize it tomorrow itself

[abhi_10_20]

Friend's gonna buy a Gaming PC. Budget = 45k. From matter posted above..i could draw out half of the list. Left out are KB, mouse, Monitor. Speakers.. he's gonnna use his old one. Please suggest to complete the list..

proc - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
ram - DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB
hdd - Western Digital Caviar 640GB
mb - MSI P45 Neo
gpu - Palit HD4850
cab - Cooler Master CM690
smps- Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W

guess this itself is gonna land up to around 38 to 40k.. suggest where the cost can be cut, so as to fit in the left out (19 inch mionitor would suffice). thanks :)

[Psychosocial]

Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Motherboard - (I highly suggest u save money here by buying the Abit IP35e but since u seem to want to go for P45 then i will suggest it.) ASUS P5Q
RAM - 2x2Gb DDR2 800
HDD - WD Caviar 640GB
GPU - Palit HD4850
Cabby - CM690 is a good choice.
PSU - CM 600W is also a good choice.
Monitor - Dell E198WFP 19" LCD
Kbd+Mouse - (combo) -> Logitech G1 Gaming Combo
OR
(individual) -> Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 kbd and Microsoft Comfort 3000


Makes a good gaming PC .:)

The cost is around 48k if you go for the combo kbd+mouse set and 50k if you go for the individual set. :)

hi i have e 4600 processor-now i want to update to e 7200-i have palit n73pv mobo-but its native bios doesn't support e 7200. ihave to flash it--but somehow i am not able to do it==just cant boot from pen drive with flashing tools-
now i am getting deal to go for e 7200 and xfx 630i mobo-for 1500 approx--is it worth
any suggestion --i am going to finalize it tomorrow itself

IT's WORTH EVERY PENNY. THE 630i IS A VERY GOOD BUDGET BOARD AND E7200 IS ONE OF THE BEST PROCCESSOR OUT THERE (considering price/perofrmance ratio). If you can, get a good graphics card like a Palit 9600GSO or even a Zotac 9600GT. :) Nice deal by the way.

[manishjha18]

palit n73 pv is also nvidia 630i based mobo-GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i

[shivkumar]

Get Intel Core2Duo E7200 for 5k + a 630i based mobo (eVGA112-CK-NF77-A1 and Abit I-N73HD ) Which are both good mobos and the chipset is quite good too. This rounds off to 7.5k. You can get the Zebronics Bijli cabinet for 1.2k which comes with a pre-installed 400W PSU. So all your queries are solved and you get a good a config too. :)

OR

I will suggest you an AMD config.

AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+ -->> 4.4k
MSI K9A2GM-FIH mobo -->> 4.5k
Zebronics Bijli cabby with PSU(400W) -->> 1k

I know that both the configs exceed your budget by 1k but the price is justified. Try and get this if you can. :)


Thanks a lot for the suggestion, but Asus, Intel or MSI mobo will be more easy to get over here in cochin. [b]Can you suggest any of the above mobo... usually the problem here is to get the desired mobo other things are easy to get.[b]

@KPower Mania: I would prefer to have Intel config as it from various sources I have understood that C2D outperforms Athlon 64X2.

[desiibond]

^^ Place an order at itwares http://theitwares.com

[KaranTh85]

can i build a config within 20k budget...

mobo,Gcard: (ATI 4850),Processor,2GB Ram,cabinet,PSU dats it...:D


GCard i need either above one or 9600GT (@ least 2 play @1024*768 settings all high)

pls suggest above config within specified budget :rolleyes:

[rahul777]

I have to purchase a Desktop (including UPS) within a budget of Rs.25000/- I intend to use it for general office work and multimedia. I tend to read a lot of e books net posts etc., therefore, TFT monitor is a must. I have initialy thought regarding the following configuration but with some doubts still in mind :
AMD X2 4850e (but unsure about availability and correct price)
Gigabyte 780G (again there is some doubt reg. heating issue and confusion regarding exact model no. and revision no.(?)
which monitor would cause the least eye strain for continuous viewing?

[Psychosocial]

can i build a config within 20k budget...

mobo,Gcard: (ATI 4850),Processor,2GB Ram,cabinet,PSU dats it...:D


GCard i need either above one or 9600GT (@ least 2 play @1024*768 settings all high)

pls suggest above config within specified budget :rolleyes:

You need to increase your budget buddy :).

You can get a E7200 + XFX 630i + 2GB DDR2 667MHz + HD4850 + Zebronics Bijli for 22k approx. :)

[shivkumar]

^ KPower Mania:

Thanks for your earlier reply for proci + mobo,
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4089 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4089)
and

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4092
(http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4094)

but it would be easy for me to get Asus, MSI or Intel mobo here in cochin, can you suggest one

[MetalheadGautham]

can i build a config within 20k budget...

mobo,Gcard: (ATI 4850),Processor,2GB Ram,cabinet,PSU dats it...:D


GCard i need either above one or 9600GT (@ least 2 play @1024*768 settings all high)

pls suggest above config within specified budget :rolleyes:
Is it going to be an OC rig ? If not, try the following:

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/-
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K

Total Rs. 18,200/-
Tax @ 4% Rs. 728/-

Grand Total Rs. 18,928/-

Keep the remaining money as buffer if the system turns out to be more expensive. If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo, since you need matching brands for the new power saving mode in hybrid graphics.
You need to increase your budget buddy :).

You can get a E7200 + XFX 630i + 2GB DDR2 667MHz + HD4850 + Zebronics Bijli for 22k approx. :)
630i = NOT recommended if you don't want onboard. G31 or P31 from gigabyte for 3K is a much better choice. It can OC quite well.

^ KPower Mania:

Thanks for your earlier reply for proci + mobo,
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4089 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4089)
and

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4092
(http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4094)

but it would be easy for me to get Asus, MSI or Intel mobo here in cochin, can you suggest one
MSI also has P35 Neo for 5.5K and P45 Neo (recommended) for 6.5K

[KaranTh85]

@MetalheadGautham: its not goin 2 b a OC rig...

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/- (bijli ???) --> will it handle 4850 card well
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/- --> done
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/- ---> "tri-core" does it compete any C2D proc :confused:
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K ---> ok
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K ---> y not GT

Total Rs. 18,200/- --->good

If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. --> if i add 1k for mobo & 4k for 4850 then budget will go abt 25k

If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo --> r they both perfect duo...:D
any other mobo with 4850...???

[MetalheadGautham]

@MetalheadGautham: its not goin 2 b a OC rig...

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/- (bijli ???) --> will it handle 4850 card well
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/- --> done
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/- ---> "tri-core" does it compete any C2D proc :confused:
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K ---> ok
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K ---> y not GT

Total Rs. 18,200/- --->good

If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. --> if i add 1k for mobo & 4k for 4850 then budget will go abt 25k

If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo --> r they both perfect duo...:D
any other mobo with 4850...???
400W - I doubt it can handle 4850 well. If you are getting 4850, get bijli (yes its name of cabinet) WITHOUT PSU for 1.2K and spend Rs. 700 more on a decent 600W 0r 500W PSU.

Tri-Core beats E7200 if you are not an overclocker.

The reason I said 4850 with 780G is because AMD has this feature to turn off power to GPU when not in use. Saves lots of money in electricity bill. But for this, you need an AMD card, and nVidia card won't work. The same goes for GF8200, which is nVidia chipset. So get GF8200 with nVidia card.

I said 9600GSO instead of 9600GT because it fulfills your need (high settings @ 1024x768) and is cheaper by 2K. If you have 3K more, buy yourself an 8800GT. Its still hot after an entire year. 9600GT is just not worth it and its there only to compete with HD3870. Its a white elephant thrown between 9600GSO and 8800GT in cost and performance.

[Sandeepfrompune]

Sandeep I would suggest P45 based Asus mobo's not P5K series for you models are Asus P5Q and P5Q Pro, most of the people would recommend P5Q Pro.
.....

Thx. BTW here a link http://techshop.in/store/index.php?cPath=21_30&sort=3a&filter_id=

can someone tell me which mobos are good here ? like MSI neo 45 or something - which
one exactly? and for asus options also which ones exactly. - Post the model no.s from
there or links. - Thanks again.

[keith_j_snyder2]

@MetalheadGautham: its not goin 2 b a OC rig...

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/- (bijli ???) --> will it handle 4850 card well
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/- --> done
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/- ---> "tri-core" does it compete any C2D proc :confused:
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K ---> ok
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K ---> y not GT

Total Rs. 18,200/- --->good

If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. --> if i add 1k for mobo & 4k for 4850 then budget will go abt 25k

If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo --> r they both perfect duo...:D
any other mobo with 4850...???

Man if u ask me i suggest to go for E7200 instead of X3 8450. The E7200 runs cooler & consumes less power than X3 8450. Besides if u choose AMD then u will have to raise ur budget for 4850 & for that u need a better PSU, because HD4850 needs atleast 450W, so u gonna need a CM Xtreme 600W or Corsair VX450(min.). Or u can wait for RV730 & drop the idea of HD4850.

Metal head has indeed suggest u the 9600GSO & its the best card into that budget & suits ur requirement perfectly.
Think it of this way, E7200 can be overclocked pretty well but the same can't be said about the X3 8450, & even if u need to overclock in future, u still have enough room for overclocking & moderate overclocking won't hurt anyone.
Also E7200 isn't far behind of X3 8450 performance wise & also E7200 suits ur budget.

Thx. BTW here a link http://techshop.in/store/index.php?cPath=21_30&sort=3a&filter_id=

can someone tell me which mobos are good here ? like MSI neo 45 or something - which
one exactly? and for asus options also which ones exactly. - Post the model no.s from
there or links. - Thanks again.

Although there is only single P45 board on the website which is MSI P45 Neo
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=2364

Check Specifications:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1482&maincat_no=1

Also u can check the models & prices on theitwares.com

[KaranTh85]

thanks...MetalheadGautham & keith_j_snyder2

So...config now is ::D
=====================
Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand ???) Rs 700/-

=========

9600GSO satisfies my need dats OK...but still including the game settings i need a little future proof card....@least 4 1-2yrs...:rolleyes:..& i think 4850 is the best bet....other
then 9800GT....;-)
can i include e-vga 112-CK-NF77-A1 (Rs4525) mobo & wait 4 Ati4850 price drop...;-)

[Ethan_Hunt]

Which 600W PSU costs 700 bucks? :D

If you are going for a good graphic card like the ATI HD4850 then a Cosair VX450 or a CM Extreme 600W is more than enough.And they both cost around 3.2k-3.3k.

[gary4gar]

thanks...MetalheadGautham & keith_j_snyder2

So...config now is ::D
=====================
Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand ???) Rs 700/-

=========

9600GSO satisfies my need dats OK...but still including the game settings i need a little future proof card....@least 4 1-2yrs...:rolleyes:..& i think 4850 is the best bet....other
then 9800GT....;-)
can i include e-vga 112-CK-NF77-A1 (Rs4525) mobo & wait 4 Ati4850 price drop...;-)
Get a Zotac 9600GT instead @6534/- shipping included. from Techspot.
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2086

[tech_lover]

Kindly advise on this new config to be used extensively for excel calculation and database queries.

Abit AN-78HD
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (to change with phenom after more price cuts)
Zion 1GB RAM (to change to Corsair/GSkill 2GB 1066 with AM2+ upgrade)
Any basic Zebronics cabinet - 1200
Coolermaster extreme power 500W - 2600
Existing IDE DVD writer
Any SATA 160GB HDD - 1800
Existing Viewsonic 19in monitor

My question is whether MSI motherboard will be better than Abit? I chose Abit as it has dual view where 2 monitors can be added. In MSI the ports are optional.

It would be of great help if anyone can tell me some delears in Kolkata where I can buy Abit motherboards other than Tirupati, where I have to pay the highest price.

EDIT: I have zeroed down on Zebronics Bijli after reading some of the posts. How does it fare against Coolermaster 330?

[utsav]

thanks...MetalheadGautham & keith_j_snyder2

So...config now is ::D
=====================
Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand ???) Rs 700/-

=======
9600GSO satisfies my need dats OK...but still including the game settings i need a little future proof card....@least 4 1-2yrs...:rolleyes:..& i think 4850 is the best bet....other
then 9800GT....;-)
can i include e-vga 112-CK-NF77-A1 (Rs4525) mobo & wait 4 Ati4850 price drop...;-)



man e7200 is a damn gud proccy. I managed to oc it to 3.2GHz on stock voltage on a gigabyte g31m-s2l mobo for just Rs 2.9k .if u want to save some money then better go for this mobo. And get a cooler master 600watt with the saved cash .

[KaranTh85]

man e7200 is a damn gud proccy. I managed to oc it to 3.2GHz on stock voltage on a gigabyte g31m-s2l mobo for just Rs 2.9k .if u want to save some money then better go for this mobo. And get a cooler master 600watt with the saved cash .

Oh...different views, diff answers....:confused:

OK...including my above config....cud anybody list down mobos blow 3.5k which r compatible with ATi 4850....:D..bcoz dat is only part left in my config...;-)

[MetalheadGautham]

Man if u ask me i suggest to go for E7200 instead of X3 8450. The E7200 runs cooler & consumes less power than X3 8450. Besides if u choose AMD then u will have to raise ur budget for 4850 & for that u need a better PSU, because HD4850 needs atleast 450W, so u gonna need a CM Xtreme 600W or Corsair VX450(min.). Or u can wait for RV730 & drop the idea of HD4850.

Metal head has indeed suggest u the 9600GSO & its the best card into that budget & suits ur requirement perfectly.
Think it of this way, E7200 can be overclocked pretty well but the same can't be said about the X3 8450, & even if u need to overclock in future, u still have enough room for overclocking & moderate overclocking won't hurt anyone.
Also E7200 isn't far behind of X3 8450 performance wise & also E7200 suits ur budget.



Although there is only single P45 board on the website which is MSI P45 Neo
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=2364

Check Specifications:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1482&maincat_no=1

Also u can check the models & prices on theitwares.com
Its not quintessential to get HD4850 if you go for AMD.
And E7200 is not better in performance if you don't OC.
And finally, 8450 is Rs. 4,900. Its much cheaper than E7200.
Get a Zotac 9600GT instead @6534/- shipping included. from Techspot.
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2086
Yeah. Thats good. Zotac 9600GT plus Zotac GF8200 Motherboard. Both together will cost 10K, so remaining 10K for CPU(5K), RAM(2K), cabby(1.5K). You are left with 1.5K. Add another 1000 and you can buy quad core Phenom X4 9550. Can you do it in Intel ?

[utsav]

man get that gigabyte mobo. am running it with 8800GT and its compatible with HD4850 too :D

[MetalheadGautham]

man e7200 is a damn gud proccy. I managed to oc it to 3.2GHz on stock voltage on a gigabyte g31m-s2l mobo for just Rs 2.9k .if u want to save some money then better go for this mobo. And get a cooler master 600watt with the saved cash .
He is not an overclocker. And yes, doing what you say, and adding to it the fact that there is no GPU power saving mode, this rig is going to DRINK electricity.
Oh...different views, diff answers....:confused:

OK...including my above config....cud anybody list down mobos blow 3.5k which r compatible with ATi 4850....:D..bcoz dat is only part left in my config...;-)
Zotac 9600GT fits perfectly in your budget along with Zotac GeForce 8200 motherboard. Why don't you get the pair ? 4850 is a power hog. You need to up your budget even more for getting a good PSU.

And yes, for HD4850, get a 780V motherboard. It costs 3.5K. :)

[KaranTh85]

this rig is going to DRINK electricity.


u mean 2 say the more powerfull a GPU the more electricity bill...:confused:...i thought electricity bill depends on PSU Watts....


Zotac 9600GT fits perfectly in your budget along with Zotac GeForce 8200 motherboard. Why don't you get the pair ?

this pair in building a AMD config ryt....


And yes, for HD4850, get a 780V motherboard. It costs 3.5K. :)
780V mobo is 4 AMD....:cool:..ryt...so u r saying AMD config is way cheaper then Intel
Config....:rolleyes:

[MetalheadGautham]

u mean 2 say the more powerfull a GPU the more electricity bill...:confused:...i thought electricity bill depends on PSU Watts....



this pair in building a AMD config ryt....


780V mobo is 4 AMD....:cool:..ryt...so u r saying AMD config is way cheaper then Intel
Config....:rolleyes:
1. I said the HD4850 is a power hungry GPU, so you need a good PSU for it. Good meaning reliable and higher watts, and you need 600W. 400 won't do.

2. Yes

3. There is no reason to be sarcastic here. The trouble with intel is that it doesn't have strong feature rich motherboards at a cheap cost. Hence AMD is more cheap compared to Intel.


And about the power saving part, if you go for AMD, the chipsets have a special feature called hybrid graphics, a part of which involves the ability to turn the GPU off and save power when the GPU is not needed and the low power onboard graphics takes over. This very useful IMO.

[tech_lover]

Kindly advise on this new config to be used extensively for excel calculation and database queries.

Abit AN-78HD
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (to change with phenom after more price cuts)
Zion 1GB RAM (to change to Corsair/GSkill 2GB 1066 with AM2+ upgrade)
Any basic Zebronics cabinet - 1200
Coolermaster extreme power 500W - 2600
Existing IDE DVD writer
Any SATA 160GB HDD - 1800
Existing Viewsonic 19in monitor

My question is whether MSI motherboard will be better than Abit? I chose Abit as it has dual view where 2 monitors can be added. In MSI the ports are optional.

It would be of great help if anyone can tell me some delears in Kolkata where I can buy Abit motherboards other than Tirupati, where I have to pay the highest price.

EDIT: I have zeroed down on Zebronics Bijli after reading some of the posts. How does it fare against Coolermaster 330?

::bump::
anyone. i want to buy this on an urgent basis as my work is held up.

Thanks

[raj_v1982]

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600 GTS 512 MB ?? and 9500 Gt 512mb ??
Is 9500 gt 512mb performs better ? and is it suitable for intel dg33fb motherboard ?
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY :(

[keith_j_snyder2]

Its not quintessential to get HD4850 if you go for AMD.
And E7200 is not better in performance if you don't OC.
And finally, 8450 is Rs. 4,900. Its much cheaper than E7200.

I think he mentioned the word "Future Proof" in one of his posts (here (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=915059&postcount=4105))

To me more future proof is E7200 instead of X3 8450.
This can be seen in the game requirements where in coming 1-2 years(as he mentioned in his earlier post) the requirements for the game will be more than what we have currently.
X3 8450 is 2.1GHz whereas E7200 is 2.5GHz which can be overclocked to 3.2GHz without V increase & X3 8450 can max. shoot out to 2.4-2.6GHz top & with v increment, this can shoot upto 4.4 GHz!


Zotac 9600GT fits perfectly in your budget along with Zotac GeForce 8200 motherboard. Why don't you get the pair ? 4850 is a power hog. You need to up your budget even more for getting a good PSU.

And yes, for HD4850, get a 780V motherboard. It costs 3.5K. :)

Indeed this one makes perfect sense!
The Zotac pair is cheaper than HD4850 & needs lesser power & the Zotac 9600GT is almost the price of 9600GSO!

1. I said the HD4850 is a power hungry GPU, so you need a good PSU for it. Good meaning reliable and higher watts, and you need 600W. 400 won't do.

3. There is no reason to be sarcastic here. The trouble with intel is that it doesn't have strong feature rich motherboards at a cheap cost. Hence AMD is more cheap compared to Intel.

And about the power saving part, if you go for AMD, the chipsets have a special feature called hybrid graphics, a part of which involves the ability to turn the GPU off and save power when the GPU is not needed and the low power onboard graphics takes over. This very useful IMO.

Absolutely right my friend!
Its a dilemma that INTEL based motherboards are not feature rich whereas AMD based motherboards are loaded with them. AMD even offers DX10.1 onboard!

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600 GTS 512 MB ?? and 9500 Gt 512mb ??
Is 9500 gt 512mb performs better ? and is it suitable for intel dg33fb motherboard ?
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY :(

I think u should wait for 9500GT, it does performs even better than 8600GTS!
The card will be available pretty soon as it is a cheaper card & will be available within ur budget.

[desiibond]

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600 GTS 512 MB ?? and 9500 Gt 512mb ??
Is 9500 gt 512mb performs better ? and is it suitable for intel dg33fb motherboard ?
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY :(

8600 series has become old now. Get 9500GT or 9600GT and get MSI/evga model.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Kindly advise on this new config to be used extensively for excel calculation and database queries.

Abit AN-78HD
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (to change with phenom after more price cuts)
Zion 1GB RAM (to change to Corsair/GSkill 2GB 1066 with AM2+ upgrade)
Any basic Zebronics cabinet - 1200
Coolermaster extreme power 500W - 2600
Existing IDE DVD writer
Any SATA 160GB HDD - 1800
Existing Viewsonic 19in monitor

My question is whether MSI motherboard will be better than Abit? I chose Abit as it has dual view where 2 monitors can be added. In MSI the ports are optional.

It would be of great help if anyone can tell me some delears in Kolkata where I can buy Abit motherboards other than Tirupati, where I have to pay the highest price.

EDIT: I have zeroed down on Zebronics Bijli after reading some of the posts. How does it fare against Coolermaster 330?

Ur entire rig is fine but since u 've mentioned that u gonna upgrade to Phenom when the price cut is effective, then i suggest u to go with the cheapest one. I mean the price cut may be effective within 4-6 weeks in INDIA, so u should look for those cheaper BE editions or look for X2 4200+. This will help u in saving some cash for PHENOM upgrade.

Regarding RAM, no need to go for those 1066 models, 800MHZ one will do the best. If looking for performance, then buy OCZ CL4 Platinum or Gold RAM. They are cheaper & performs same as any other high performance.

[tech_lover]

^^Thanks a lot keith

[KaranTh85]

SO....now config bcomes this

Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand coolermaster RP-600-PCAR or
450W PSU (VX450W) )
E-VGA 112-CK-NF77-A1 Rs 4525
or
A-Bit I-N73HD Rs 4100

which mobo shud i go 4 frm these two ?? I'll buy HD4850 l8r....;-)

[desiibond]

^^ Dude. if you are going for HD4850, I would suggest you to for Phenom setup with 780G motherboard.

1) Phenom X3 (5.5k)
2) Gigabyte 780G chipset (5k)
3) Kinston 2Gb ddr2 800 Mhz (2.2k)

The onboard GPU for 780G board runs crysis game at low settings. Seriously, when you add HD4850 in Hybrid crossfire setup on 780G, it will kick the E7200 config without any mercy.

[channabasanna]

Hi,

Is it necessary to update the BIOS after getting the motherboard. If so how we do it, is it risky in updating the BIOS. Till now i haven tried updating the BIOS for my Maximus Formula.

[desiibond]

1) Make sure that there in uninterrupted power supply duing BIOS update.
2) ASUS provided BIOS update utility in mobo's driver disc.
3) go to manufacturer's webiste to check downlods (http://www.asus.com/prog_content/middle_download.aspx?modelmenu=4&model=1889&l1=3&l2=117&l3=0&l4=0)
4) Download the latest BIOS update and install using the BIOS update utlity.

[KaranTh85]

^^ Dude. if you are going for HD4850, I would suggest you to for Phenom setup with 780G motherboard.

1) Phenom X3 (5.5k)
2) Gigabyte 780G chipset (5k)
3) Kinston 2Gb ddr2 800 Mhz (2.2k)

The onboard GPU for 780G board runs crysis game at low settings. Seriously, when you add HD4850 in Hybrid crossfire setup on 780G, it will kick the E7200 config without any mercy.

so is ur mention config will come under 20k...:rolleyes: incl...4850

[desiibond]

Nope. a thousand or two more than the Intel config. But performance will be worth every penny and also has very good overclocing potential. Moreover, the extra core has a definite advantage.

[KaranTh85]

Nope. a thousand or two more than the Intel config. But performance will be worth every penny and also has very good overclocing potential. Moreover, the extra core has a definite advantage.

But i dont wanna OC...as i've mentioned...i just need a config which is future proof 4 @1-2yrs....& can play any game @1024*768 :D

[acewin]

That issue was fixed ages ago on linux, BSD and solaris. Mac never had that issue. Vista SP1 I think fixes it. So why is this an issue today ? :confused:

just saying in case he uses Windows XP, you would face it still. I think in Vista without SP also it works well.

And as desibond said already mate if you never wanna go OCing, AMD config is superb, and HD4850 will make you go on more than just 2 years. Good on power options also with the 780G mobo, if not playing games the onboard gfx if this mobo beats any onboard gfx 2-3 times.
Damn the card its real good can play all games on good high settings, and will keep continue even after 2 years until and unless they make some games which requires 2 GB cards LOL and we do not have any of the current games heeehe

[desiibond]

I would go for the AMD Phenom+780G+HD4850 setup.

1) 780G itself is very powerful chipset
2) When coupled with HD4850 in hybrid crossfire mode, it rocks

Hybrid crossfire means you can make the onboard graphics and PCIe grphics card work together in crossfire mode.
3) Phenom X3 has an extra core that will be useful for multiprocessor tasks.
4) If you want to use nVidia graphics card, go for Intel. If you want to use ATI graphics, go for AMD processor with 780G chipset or go for Intel motherboards that support Hybrid crossfire setup of ATI.

[keith_j_snyder2]

SO....now config bcomes this

Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand coolermaster RP-600-PCAR or
450W PSU (VX450W) )
E-VGA 112-CK-NF77-A1 Rs 4525
or
A-Bit I-N73HD Rs 4100

which mobo shud i go 4 frm these two ?? I'll buy HD4850 l8r....;-)

Its simple:
nVidia chipset + nVidia graphic card = Hybrid Power(more power savings).
ATi chipset + ATi graphics card = Hybrid Power.
nVidia chipset + ATi graphics card = No Hybrid Power (no power savings) & vice versa.

Metal head has already described this man!

Also if u are planning for INTEL processor + HD4850 then buy an INTEL chipset, it gives u more overclocking room(if u use it in future) but if u choosing between above 2 then go with the EVGA one. It has better onboard GPU.

[Psychosocial]

+1 for E-VGA 112-CK-NF77-A1 Rs 4525

[solomon_paulraj]

im ready to spend around 15000 next month for buying these 3 items.
I need suggestion regarding purchasing

1. Motherboard (Intel/AMD)
2. Processor (C2D/Quad/AMD)
3. Graphics Card (Nvidia/ATI)

My usage:
Lots of games with high/good resolution
AV editing
Music and Movies

Also tell me whether can I expect a price drop during the next two or three months, because I can wait and buy.

thanks in advance.:p

[monkey]

+1 for E-VGA 112-CK-NF77-A1 Rs 4525

Just remember that this motherboard supports single-channel RAM only.

[desiibond]

^^ Get

1) Phenom X4 9550 Quad-Core (8k) or Phenom X3 8450 (6k)
2) Gigabyte 780G chipset(5k)
3) Wait for a month or two and then get Sapphire HD4850 (ATI card)

1) Intel E8200 (7.5k) or E7200 (5.5k)
2) Abit IP35-E (5k, without onboard GPU) or Intel DG33FB (4.5k with onboard GPU)
3) evga 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 (8k) or 9500GT for 5.5k

[MetalheadGautham]

SO....now config bcomes this

Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand coolermaster RP-600-PCAR or
450W PSU (VX450W) )
E-VGA 112-CK-NF77-A1 Rs 4525
or
A-Bit I-N73HD Rs 4100

which mobo shud i go 4 frm these two ?? I'll buy HD4850 l8r....;-)

But i dont wanna OC...as i've mentioned...i just need a config which is future proof 4 @1-2yrs....& can play any game @1024*768 :D
Since you don't want to OC, AMD is the best option. Unlike what people say about E7200 having higher clock speed, in real life, due to AMD's extra core, it performs better in multitasking and equal in gaming. You can also do things like 64Bit virtualisation on AMD, something which Intel E7200 can't. And the future is destined to be multicore, and 2 is too little. Nehalem might be released in triple core budget versions in the future, and AMD Fusion is already planned to be triple core. So triple core optimisation along with quad core optimisation is assured in the future. So going by these angles, AMD is the smarter choice.
im ready to spend around 15000 next month for buying these 3 items.
I need suggestion regarding purchasing

1. Motherboard (Intel/AMD)
2. Processor (C2D/Quad/AMD)
3. Graphics Card (Nvidia/ATI)

My usage:
Lots of games with high/good resolution
AV editing
Music and Movies

Also tell me whether can I expect a price drop during the next two or three months, because I can wait and buy.

thanks in advance.:p
If you can wait 2-3 months, then DO wait. Nehalem will result in high price cuts from AMD and Intel's Core2 range. And HD4850 would have stabilised in price. nVidia 730i chipset for Intel motherboards with onboard GeForce 9300 or 9400 IGP would arrive soon, for under 5K with great OC potential and great onboard performance. 9400 + 9600GT in hybrid SLI will be able to play any game in medium to high settings. And AMD might announce its AM3 boards perhaps, and taking a cue from intel, release those insanely overclockable and high performing Deneb range of processors sooner than planned. LOTS can happen in the next 2-3 months since lots of products are releasing and lots more are on a mad rush to reduce price to stay competitive.

[abhi_10_20]

this is the config and pricelist my friend's gonna go for.. are the prices reasonable? also please comment on the rig(its for gaming):

1. AMD Phenom X3 8450 for - 5150

2. RAM - DDR2 800 MHz 2 GB - 1800

3. Hard Disk - seagate 400GB - 2650

4. mobo - gigabyte 78g (crossfire) - 6500

5. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - 2000

6. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 500W - 2800

7. DVD drive - LG SATA DVD 22x - Rs. 1100

8. GPU - Sapphire HD4850 512 MB - 11000 (we had chosen palit earlier, but the guy told the sapphire one had a better heat sink)

9. Monitor - Dell E198WFP 19" LCD - 9200

[janitha]

this is the config and pricelist my friend's gonna go for.. are the prices reasonable? also please comment on the rig(its for gaming):

1. AMD Phenom X3 8450 for - 5150

2. RAM - DDR2 800 MHz 2 GB - 1800

3. Hard Disk - seagate 400GB - 2650

4. mobo - gigabyte 78g (crossfire) - 6500

5. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - 2000

6. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 500W - 2800

7. DVD drive - LG SATA DVD 22x - Rs. 1100

8. GPU - Sapphire HD4850 512 MB - 11000 (we had chosen palit earlier, but the guy told the sapphire one had a better heat sink)

9. Monitor - Dell E198WFP 19" LCD - 9200

Get the Cooler Master CM690 - for Rs.2000/- for all of us.:eek:

[Psychosocial]

2k for CM690 :shock: Nice deal dude.

[abhi_10_20]

oops.. i guess its not CM690... the 2k one has 1 fan with 3 optional... 690 costed around 3.6k... we chose to go for 2k one.. how are the other rates?

[janitha]

oops.. i guess its not CM690... the 2k one has 1 fan with 3 optional... 690 costed around 3.6k... we chose to go for 2k one.. how are the other rates?

Seems more or less OK other than Mobo.
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AMD 780G and SB700 Chipset Rs.5450/-
http://www.theitwares.com/motherboards/motherboards.htm

[acewin]

oops.. i guess its not CM690... the 2k one has 1 fan with 3 optional... 690 costed around 3.6k... we chose to go for 2k one.. how are the other rates?

Rates are fine, but you will need 600W PSU. HD4850 is alot power hungry.
In general 400W PSU also suffices, but with HD4850 which works aroun 100-150W you need to get 600W PSU.

[Count Dracula]

I need help to assemble a PC.45k budget.Mostly for gaming,but I use the pc for everything xD.Please include a 4850,if its possible.

[vishald]

Bought Gigabye GA-MA74GM-S2H with inbuilt AMD 740G chipset ATI RADEON 2100 + AMD 4600 + 2GB Trascend RAM for Rs 7600 from Lamington Road mumbai

[rahul777]

this is the config and pricelist my friend's gonna go for.. are the prices reasonable? also please comment on the rig(its for gaming):

1. AMD Phenom X3 8450 for - 5150

2. RAM - DDR2 800 MHz 2 GB - 1800

3. Hard Disk - seagate 400GB - 2650

4. mobo - gigabyte 78g (crossfire) - 6500

5. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - 2000

6. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 500W - 2800

7. DVD drive - LG SATA DVD 22x - Rs. 1100

8. GPU - Sapphire HD4850 512 MB - 11000 (we had chosen palit earlier, but the guy told the sapphire one had a better heat sink)

9. Monitor - Dell E198WFP 19" LCD - 9200
Where did you get the Dell 19" for Rs.9200? Is there any diff btw Dell SE and Dell E?
As per my knowledge Gigabyte 780g is available for around Rs.4500.

[acewin]

I need help to assemble a PC.45k budget.Mostly for gaming,but I use the pc for everything xD.Please include a 4850,if its possible.

do you need complete PC with monitor or just a CPU, whatever comes up you can start build your PC with following specs.

Proccy - E7200/E8200/E8400 - 5400/7600/8000

Mobo - Abit IP35-E/MSI P45-Neo/Asus P5Q/P5Q Pro - 5400/6500/8200/9000

GPU - HD4850 - 10000-12000 recommended Sapphire/Palit and alot other good brands gerneral price is 10.5-11K

RAM - 2GB single stick - 1800

Burner Sony/Samsumg or whatever you wanna go for - 1200-1300

HDD your choice capacity - best you can get WD 640 GB - 3600

PSU - Coolermaster 600W - 3100 minimal requirement if you wanna hold your HD4850

CoolerMaster Elite 330 - 1700

Dell 2208 22" monitor - 17000

Prices go lil over 45K which you can adjust by selecting mobo proccy and HDD of your choice, if you do not find the price in local market appropiate according to the prices I quoted here or not getting, you can always buy things online there are many recommended online dealers with good price rate, and my all prices are quoted from online sites. So I think you can get better offers in local market.

[Psychosocial]

I need help to assemble a PC.45k budget.Mostly for gaming,but I use the pc for everything xD.Please include a 4850,if its possible.

Go for this one.

Intel C2D E8200
MSI P45 Neo
2x2GB DDR2 800MHz
WD Caviar 640GB HDD
Palit HD4850
Cooler Master 600W PSU
CM Elite 330 cabby
Samsung/Sony/LG/LiteOn Optical Drive.
Dell 19" Monitor.
Logitech Wired Multimedia Keyboard.
Logitech MX518 Mouse.
Good 2.1/5.1 Speakers depending on ur remaining money OR your choice.

:) Happy Fragging.

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ go for E8400 except E8200. For 400/- extra u getting 3Ghz over 2.66 Ghz!

[smashstid]

Hello

which processor & motherboard for a budget of 6500 Rs.im using for programming mainly runs SQL Server,Netbeans,Visual studio,IIS etc.no games..

6.5 K -budget for the proc & mobo.i need the best value for my money.

Processor - [AMD- 4600,4800,5400 or Intel E4400,E4500]
Motherboard-[Asus M2 N MX SE...,.. or which one for Intel]

i think AMD is good in this price range or should i think about Intel.

Thx

[keith_j_snyder2]

Hello

which processor & motherboard for a budget of 6500 Rs.im using for programming mainly runs SQL Server,Netbeans,Visual studio,IIS etc.no games..

6.5 K -budget for the proc & mobo.i need the best value for my money.

Processor - [AMD- 4600,4800,5400 or Intel E4400,E4500]
Motherboard-[Asus M2 N MX SE...,.. or which one for Intel]

i think AMD is good in this price range or should i think about Intel.

Thx

The one u mentioned is best for u.

AMD X2 4600+ & Any board suits ur budget.
I recommend 780G or above chipset, for this u may have to go for X2 4400+ but keep it as an option.

[Sandeepfrompune]

I have finalized following things. I really can't go for more priced parts.

ViewSonic 20" VA2026W LCD Monitor (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1527) 11,872 MSI P45 Neo-F Motherboard (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2364) 6,720
Cooler Master 690 Computer Case (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1323) 4,492 Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1306) 5,050
EVGA NVIDIA e-GeForce 9600GT 512 MB 512-P3-E865-AR KO Knock-out Edition (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2111)11,153
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1152) 8,399 - other things like - 2 GB RAM , DVD RW, HD 160GB, Speaker, etc. etc. When I will OverClock then 'ill buy Thermalright ULTRA 120 EXTREME Heatsink also.

Please Please Please answer ......
1. do we need GPU cooler if we take SC or KO edition of graphics card ( or we do it manually afterwords for that matter... ) - If YES then
please suggest GPU cooler for my part - EVGA NVIDIA e-GeForce 9600GT 512 MB 512-P3-E865-AR KO “Knock-out” Edition Graphics Card .

2. MSI P45 Neo F - above mobo allows for OverClocking ?

Most of the parts no avail in Pune at dealer, i didn;t get any good response so, I am planning to buy from www.techshop.in (http://www.techshop.in)
Thanks,

[solomon_paulraj]

thank you for the advice. MetalHeadGautham.

[smashstid]

The one u mentioned is best for u.

AMD X2 4600+ & Any board suits ur budget.
I recommend 780G or above chipset, for this u may have to go for X2 4400+ but keep it as an option.

Thanks for the reply.Let me clarify one thing..what about 4800 or 5400..Do you think that it can perform well with the price range considered or should i go for a good motherboard .

[janitha]

I have finalized following things. I really can't go for more priced parts.

ViewSonic 20" VA2026W LCD Monitor (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1527) 11,872 MSI P45 Neo-F Motherboard (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2364) 6,720
Cooler Master 690 Computer Case (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1323) 4,492 Cooler (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1306) 5,050
EVGA NVIDIA e-GeForce 9600GT 512 MB 512-P3-E865-AR KO Knock-out Edition (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2111)11,153
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1152) 8,399 - other things like - 2 GB RAM , DVD RW, HD 160GB, Speaker, etc. etc. When I will OverClock then 'ill buy Thermalright ULTRA 120 EXTREME Heatsink also.

Please Please Please answer ......
1. do we need GPU cooler if we take SC or KO edition of graphics card ( or we do it manually afterwords for that matter... ) - If YES then
please suggest GPU cooler for my part - EVGA NVIDIA e-GeForce 9600GT 512 MB 512-P3-E865-AR KO “Knock-out” Edition Graphics Card .

2. MSI P45 Neo F - above mobo allows for OverClocking ?

Most of the parts no avail in Pune at dealer, i didn;t get any good response so, I am planning to buy from www.techshop.in (http://www.techshop.in)
Thanks,

"I really can't go for more priced parts." Agreed, but you can get most of them for lower price even if you buy online. Eg. 8400 for 7925,MSI P45 Neo F for 6500, 690 for 3900, Extreme Power 600W for 3150
, etc., etc.....

http://www.theitwares.com/index.htm

[Psychosocial]

Hello

which processor & motherboard for a budget of 6500 Rs.im using for programming mainly runs SQL Server,Netbeans,Visual studio,IIS etc.no games..

6.5 K -budget for the proc & mobo.i need the best value for my money.

Processor - [AMD- 4600,4800,5400 or Intel E4400,E4500]
Motherboard-[Asus M2 N MX SE...,.. or which one for Intel]

i think AMD is good in this price range or should i think about Intel.

Thx

Buy Intel E4500 + XFX 630i.

[mukundpathak]

Bought Gigabye GA-MA74GM-S2H with inbuilt AMD 740G chipset ATI RADEON 2100 + AMD 4600 + 2GB Trascend RAM for Rs 7600 from Lamington Road mumbai

That seems a good bargain. Can you tell which shop ?

[KaranTh85]

I would go for the AMD Phenom+780G+HD4850 setup.

1) 780G itself is very powerful chipset
2) When coupled with HD4850 in hybrid crossfire mode, it rocks

Hybrid crossfire means you can make the onboard graphics and PCIe grphics card work together in crossfire mode.
3) Phenom X3 has an extra core that will be useful for multiprocessor tasks.
4) If you want to use nVidia graphics card, go for Intel. If you want to use ATI graphics, go for AMD processor with 780G chipset or go for Intel motherboards that support Hybrid crossfire setup of ATI.

thanx...now i know the meaning of cross fire

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