Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[scavanger007]

P7N is more future proof if you are gonna stick to your proccy..which proccy are u getting btW?

this is wat i have decided so far.....
intel C2D Q6600
4gb patriot ram(if i m lucky 2 get patriot in nasik or sm other company like kingston/transcend)
XFX 8800GTS
and motherboard yet 2 decide.......
also will i need good PSU or my normal 400 watt enough.......if needed 1.5k is my budget for PSU.....
any need of graphics card cooler?

[nish_higher]

^ patriot Signature line only ! :) simply awesome and will cost 500 bucks more for a 4gb 800mhz kit
How much does 8800GTS cost?if around 20 k then i'd rather suggest getting 2* 9600 GT and use sli
PSU is definitely needed and a good one only for that config..atleast a Cooler mster 500W for a single card

Motherboard=P7N sli platinum

[sagardani]

There doesn't seem any difference between p7n and IX38... But considering build quality, additional features (like those I've mentioned) I think Abit is ahead MSI.. but MSI gives good vfm... Since sli/crossfire doesn't matter, if have money to go for IX38 do you think its worth?

[nish_higher]

those features are nice and prove handy if you are a overclocking nerd but most of us would just overclock once to the max.and for that it does not matter if there's no CMOS reset switch , after all i dont think its a problem resetting cmos from a jumper if you are that kind..surely if u gotta take regular "pangas" with the board u need those things

MSI is always good with build quality in mid-high end boards

[scavanger007]

i think XFX 8800GTS costs 18.5k-19k smthing......
wat is the cost of 9600GT (and btw of which company? XFX?)
and is i opt for SLi mode...then 500W will still b sufficient or i will have 2 go further?

[nish_higher]

hmm..

9600 GT sli is what i'd suggest for the price.im buying the same thing.i dont think if ASUS 9600 GT with custom cooler is available in india , if it is i'm getting it.
Else MSI 9600 GT or XFX 9600 GT ..Sli setup would cost around 18-19k..and yes u will need a better PSU.

[scavanger007]

ohk.......
if SLi mode will outperform then i will go for it......
btw XFX 8800GTS and XFX 9600GT....any/both are GDDR3 or GDDR2?

[nish_higher]

^ Source
http://en.expreview.com/2008/02/23/geforce-9600gt-review/?page=15

http://en.expreview.com/img/2008/02/23/9600GT/96sli_88gts.png


and both cards are GDDR3

[scavanger007]

hey tat was real nice comparison and i must say the difference is not small .....
so SLi mode is worth buy !!!
thnx for the above post:)

[scavanger007]

MSI Reminds you...
1. NVIDIA nForce Series boards DO NOT support Windows® 98/ME
2. SLI Technology only supports 32-bit and 64-bit Windows XP
3. For the best performance and commitment of convenience, please use memories listed in MSI approved memory module vendor list (Please check memory test report), which provides the easiest, up-to-date memory configurations.

just found it in official MSI site while checking the motherboard....
means if i use SLi ....no vista or future windows OS?

[nish_higher]

that site has some issue , otherwise MSI boards support Sli in vista..Since its Nvidia's chipsets , MSI has nothing to do with it..this point was useful 1 yr back when there were no drivers for Sli in vista..
my frnd is running 8800GT OC Sli in Vista on this board

And regarding third point-- From my own experience Nvidia chipsets are not so friendly with more than 3gb of Dynet \ Simmtronics rams.but you wont have a problem since u r not buying them

[Riteshonline]

Hi guies,
I want to buy a new sata Harddrive 4 My PC. I have intel 865 MB.is sata 2.0 H.D.D. works well with my PC?????http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/76.gif
what is Gaming Raptor H.D.D. introduce By Western Digital. What was the cost for 160 G.B. or 250 G.B.http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/77.gif
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[keith_j_snyder2]

P7N SLI runs SLI in x8x8 and besides its just max. 1-2 months left when INTEL will launch its P45 and X48 chipsets. So its worth waiting.

No need for Raptor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Digital_Raptor) dude since its expensive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136012) and now days almost all HDD performs almost same as Raptor. Get a 16MB Cache HDD and it will do its best.

[nish_higher]

some pages back i posted some links for that board's performance which clearly show that 8X bandwidth does not have any effect on gaming performance.and no card utilises full bandwidth.this board beats 780i in overclocking.gotta see its comparison with 790i.i'm sure it wont do that good but lets see how close it is

[janitha]

Hi guies,
I want to buy a new sata Harddrive 4 My PC. I have intel 865 MB.is sata 2.0 H.D.D. works well with my PC?????http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/76.gif
what is . intGaming Raptor H.D.Droduce By Western Digital. What was the cost for 160 G.B. or 250 G.B.http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/77.gif
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I think even Western Digital is not aware of of Gaming raptor @ 1602/250GB. May be I am wrong.;)

[sivarap]

I've decided on the following.
Core2 duo 2.2ghz E4500 ----- 4600
XFX 630i 7100 ---- 3600
1GB single stick ddr2 ram ----- 900
160gb sata ---- ??
cabinet ----- 950
Logitec keyboard&mouse --- 550

Which brand/model of Harddisk and ram to buy?
Is the motherboard mentioned capable of handling 8800GT in the future?
I am going fo the onboard gfx because of the budget constraint...I want to upgrade my gfx later.

Comments please.

[CadCrazy]

Need (procy+cabinet+HDD+dvd writer+Ram+mobo). budget is around 7000/-

[~Rahul~]

Which brand/model of Harddisk and ram to buy?
Is the motherboard mentioned capable of handling 8800GT in the future?
I am going fo the onboard gfx because of the budget constraint...I want to upgrade my gfx later.

Comments please.

The mobo u mentioned does'nt support Dual channel memory,

Go for the Intel DG33FB if u cant buy a GPU,

If u r gonna buy a GPU go for Abit IP35-E.

[upendra_gp]

i am getting this one today finally!
c2D e8400+ip35e+2GB RAM+320GB WD HDD+XFX 8800GT 512MB.

[mayanksharma]

^^well, just for the GPU sake...go with any other brand than XFX! :p

[sagargv]

^^ why not XFX ?

[ajayashish]

^^^^ now a days XFX is giving heating problems... go for MSI or eVGA

[keith_j_snyder2]

I've decided on the following.
Core2 duo 2.2ghz E4500 ----- 4600
XFX 630i 7100 ---- 3600
1GB single stick ddr2 ram ----- 900
160gb sata ---- ??
cabinet ----- 950
Logitec keyboard&mouse --- 550

Which brand/model of Harddisk and ram to buy?
Is the motherboard mentioned capable of handling 8800GT in the future?
I am going fo the onboard gfx because of the budget constraint...I want to upgrade my gfx later.

Comments please.

My suggestion for this is go for a good quality board like A-bit IP-35-E or Biostar TP-35D2 and E2160. Overclock it and get the best out of best.
As far as the display related, u can buy any used PCI-E, cheapest available external graphics card. With this u can also wait for ur graphics card upgrade and u will have the best of the best config. with u!
And yes buy 800mhz RAM not the 667mhz.

[nish_higher]

^^ XFX does not have heat issues with a normal 8800GT ..its with the factory overclocked XXX edition

[mayanksharma]

see, most of the MSI cards are factory overclocked these days. this is same with many other companies. yep, its true that, one can go with vanilla 8800GT! However, eventually the need for O/Cing arises. and that is when, XFX cards scream for new coolers. Btw, even i am a secret admirer of XFX cards. However, the poor cooling units of XFX cards are making it difficult to hold! :p
Btw, darklord mentioned this Gigabyte 8800GT card..GV-NX88T512HP! From the reviews and its built...i am very impressed!! From the quality VRAM chips to aftermarket Zalman Cooling, the card packs punch. Now, if only its available at N.P. !! errr..one more thing, what was the price??

[nish_higher]

^ my point is only to clear the dilemma of XFX overheating.its not about performance.certainly if i were to buy 8800GT it would be MSI only.

[KaranTh85]

Hi,
I have selected this as my mid-end gaming system

Intel C2D E8200:cool:
EVGA 112-CK-NF75-A1 or EVGA 112-CK-NF77-A1 (1333MHz FSB):rolleyes:
RAM : Kingston 2GB 800MHz :cool:
500Watt PSU
----------------------

I'll add a GCard l8r :grin: Is the above mobo supports latest Cards as I have in mind EVGA 9600GT or XFX 8800GT Alpha Dog Edition(or shud I go 4 MSI/eVGA:confused:)

the reason I've chosen EVGA coz as I'll use onboard grphcs & it has
7100/7150 chipset which is enough 4 onboard gaming 4 time being:cool:

I m bored of Intel Graphics chipset dats y chosen Nvidia Chipset....
& Is the PSU ok 4 GCard as I dont wanna OC...but wud buy a OC card
later
Wud the above setup will come under 9k
What do u think guys....:grin:

[DigitalDude]

^^^
9k is impossible as the proccy itself is 8k :D

more like 13-15k :p


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[uday9484]

hi to all forum members this is uday from HYD
i want to upgrade pc(cpu,MB,RAM,gfx)
As i was midcore gamer i don’t need all that pixel monsters because I was using my old 15” monitor that wont be upgraded right now.
I will be satisfied playing games at low resolution as possible.
So my budget is ~25k I know it is low but don’t want to compromise on all parts rather compromising on some of parts which can upgrade later on
So firstly motherboard this part won’t be compromised at any cost
The requirements are: should be futuristic ie support of pci-e 2.0(right now not going 2.0 gfx card) and all latest cpu’s
And don’t need any sli or crossfire support as well
And reading all ur reviews in this forum I shootout some mobo’s
XFX 650i, Asus p5k, msi p35 platinum, Abit ip35 pro or E and my query is does all this support pci-e 2.0 are not!
And what about next gen chips x38 x48 750i does all this comes in my bracket!

And for gfx I was very satisfied by XFX 8600GT or Asus 8600GT(at least for my req)
My query is: Is it wise to go for new one or second hand for above gfx cards
Because they are a bit old in accordance with market

And lastly cpu: u guys can give me the one which will fit in this budget.

Thanks for all u r valuable suggestions.

[manishjha18]

among Intel DG33FB and P5E-VM HDMI--which one is better.

[gxsaurav]

P5e-vm Hdmi

[madhavan46]

hi,to all
its urgent!!!
can any one tell me ,which motherboard ,processor and graphic card ,should i have to buy, my budget is about 10k ,u can suggest me both in amd and intel

[j1n M@tt]

^^ hey for wat purpose do u use ur system? I ask this so dat I can suggest grfx card according to dat, so dat other components can be made to fit in

[manishjha18]

P5e-vm Hdmi
can u elaborate why P5e-vm Hdmi is better than Intel DG33FB ?????--
my cousins basic use is to run vista ultimate--could u suugest any other mobo with inbuilt graphics card-for intel core 2 duo setup--he wd add graphics card when direct x 10.1 graphics card becomes really cheap
what about GA-G33M-S2H---------?????
which one is better g33 chipset or g35 chipset????

[Sandeepfrompune]

wanted to buy new PC, but created new thread for that Thanks.
my earlier posts here looked Sooooo lengthyyy :(

:)

[madhavan46]

mainly for entertainment purpose!!

mainly for entertainment purpose!!!

mainly for entertainment purpose!!!!!

[mastermunj]

Hi Guys,

Below is the configuration i have decided for myself..

Processor----Intel---------Q6600--------------------10500
Motherboard--Abit----------IP35-E--------------------5500
Memory-------Transcend-----2X2 GB 800Mhz-------------1900
Hard Drive---Seagate-------320 GB (16 MB Buffer)-----3500
Cabinet------Zebronics-----Antibiotic----------------2100
Monitor------Viewsonic-----19" LCD-------------------9500
Keyboard-----Logitech------Multi Media----------------400
Mouse--------Logitech------Optical--------------------400
DVD R/W------Lite-on-------20X with Lightscribe------1600
TOTAL-----------------------------------------------35400

My budget is 40K only.

I am planning to take graphics card after 3 - 4 months..
Does IP35-E has onboard graphids?
Which Monitor exactly to go for?

Actually i wanna go for Q9450 penryn but not able to get much details about its availability and price so did not include graphics card in the config because if in case i go for Q9450 my pc should not over budget then.

Please give me your suggestions.

Planning to buy PC in May Mid.

[ajayashish]

I dont think IP35 has any onboard graphics...

[Demonkiller]

Hi Guys,

Below is the configuration i have decided for myself..

Processor----Intel---------Q6600--------------------10500
Motherboard--Abit----------IP35-E--------------------5500
Memory-------Transcend-----2X2 GB 800Mhz-------------1900
Hard Drive---Seagate-------320 GB (16 MB Buffer)-----3500
Cabinet------Zebronics-----Antibiotic----------------2100
Monitor------Viewsonic-----19" LCD-------------------9500
Keyboard-----Logitech------Multi Media----------------400
Mouse--------Logitech------Optical--------------------400
DVD R/W------Lite-on-------20X with Lightscribe------1600
TOTAL-----------------------------------------------35400

My budget is 40K only.

I am planning to take graphics card after 3 - 4 months..
Does IP35-E has onboard graphids?
Which Monitor exactly to go for?

Actually i wanna go for Q9450 penryn but not able to get much details about its availability and price so did not include graphics card in the config because if in case i go for Q9450 my pc should not over budget then.

Please give me your suggestions.

Planning to buy PC in May Mid.

No Onboard graphics.
I'd recommend you to go for a 2nd hand graphics card for now and then upgrate to a newer one when you get the cash.

[janitha]

Memory-------Transcend-----2X2 GB 800Mhz-------------1900



Double that amount!

[constantine]

can neone find out if BioStar GF7050V-M7 motherboard supports P4 2.4 ghz processor
plz its urgent

[mastermunj]

Double that amount!

Thanks!

Skipped outta my mind!!

any good mobo with onboard graphics and oc capability in range of 5k??

[ajayashish]

^^^ i think u can have a look at XFX 630i and XFX 610i...

[j1n M@tt]

@constantine

if it is a LGA775 socket processor, then BioStar GF7050V-M7 will support it....

[mastermunj]

after constant thoughts i have decided that i will reduce 2G RAM from my config and add up graphics card..

so now my config becomes..

Q6600 - 10500
Abit IP35-E - 5500
XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 - 5000
Transcend 1X2GB RAM - 1900
Seagate 320G (16 MB) - 3500
Zebronics antibiotic - 2100
Viewsonic 19" LCD - 9500
KB/Mouse - 800
DVD R/W ASUS 20X - 1600
----------------------------------
Total - 40400

will it be a good config?

any suggestions for specific LCD?
any mobo suggestions?
will antibiotic serve better for my config??

[ajayashish]

after constant thoughts i have decided that i will reduce 2G RAM from my config and add up graphics card..

so now my config becomes..

Q6600 - 10500
Abit IP35-E - 5500
XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 - 5000
Transcend 1X2GB RAM - 1900
Seagate 320G (16 MB) - 3500
Zebronics antibiotic - 2100
Viewsonic 19" LCD - 9500
KB/Mouse - 800
DVD R/W ASUS 20X - 1600
----------------------------------
Total - 40400

will it be a good config?

any suggestions for specific LCD?
any mobo suggestions?
will antibiotic serve better for my config??

get the new Q9450 with 12mb cache... will increase ur budget by another 5k though but it is worthy...

[nil1982]

after constant thoughts i have decided that i will reduce 2G RAM from my config and add up graphics card..

so now my config becomes..

Q6600 - 10500
Abit IP35-E - 5500
XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 - 5000
Transcend 1X2GB RAM - 1900
Seagate 320G (16 MB) - 3500
Zebronics antibiotic - 2100
Viewsonic 19" LCD - 9500
KB/Mouse - 800
DVD R/W ASUS 20X - 1600
----------------------------------
Total - 40400

will it be a good config?

any suggestions for specific LCD?
any mobo suggestions?
will antibiotic serve better for my config??

My config is almost the same, just IP35-Pro and DELL SE198WFP with 4 gigs of RAM. Why don't you consider DELL SE198WFP? That's an excellent display for it's price. Consider it since ViewSonic is known for after sales issues.

[ajayashish]

^^^+1 .. dell has a good after sale service

[nil1982]

^^^+1 .. dell has a good after sale service

I am seriously impressed by it's quality also, A 9K LCD could not be better I think. Its performance exceeded my expectation after calibrating.

[ajayashish]

great... i will be getting a 22" display for myself in next month...

[nil1982]

great... i will be getting a 22" display for myself in next month...
Congrats in advance.:D

[mastermunj]

My config is almost the same, just IP35-Pro and DELL SE198WFP with 4 gigs of RAM. Why don't you consider DELL SE198WFP? That's an excellent display for it's price. Consider it since ViewSonic is known for after sales issues.


what is its cost??

[nil1982]

what is its cost??
DELL website price is Rs.9200. I got it here in Kolkata locally for Rs.9000+tax i.e. Rs.9360.
Also add a good PSU in your config. One of the cheapest (but good) option is Zebronics platinum 500 Watts for Rs.1800 + Tax (Kolkata price).

[ajayashish]

^^^ better go with CM Extreme

[mastermunj]

^^^ better go with CM Extreme

CM Extreme??

what exactly is that and its cost??

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^ Powersafe Gold might be a good option!
Cooler Master Extreme will cost more than that but worthy!

[nish_higher]

go for cooler master if buying a below 600 W supply

[niladrisde]

Hi,

I am planning to configure a new PC with ASUS M2A-VM motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ processor, and 1GB DDR2 800MHz RAM. I am planning to install Vista Ultimate on this, and use this PC for Graphic Design etc. (Photoshop and CorelDraw mainly).

Can anyone please tell me, if M2A-VM would support DirectX10, which I believe is needed for running Vista?

Also, I chose this configuration, because of my limited budget (around 22k for the box with 17" LCD monitor, local UPS, and a wireless card). But keeping in mind the software requirements (Vista/Photoshop/CorelDRAW), do you think this configuration is OK? (I am not looking to play games or do any CAD design). If you think it isn't OK, can you please suggest any other configuration?

Thanks a lot in advance, and apologize for sounding naive...

[j1n M@tt]

^^ M2A-VM has 690G chipset with X1250 IGP, it does not hav DX10 but u can run Vista with Aero interface without any hiccups.

But I recommend 2GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM or 2*1GB DDR2 667MHz for ur gfx designing jobs.....otherwise Vista will lag a lot.

[fragrant]

Hi,
I want to buy a new comp. Plz help me select the components.
I want a AMD x2 proc, 4 gb ram, any decent m0b0, no gpu, and a smps.
Help me choose these. And the latest prices also.

[Sandeepfrompune]

The VERY FIRST post by ChotoCheetah is very good one and informative

for ppl like above post- new PC config, that post can be guideline of what can be good options under which budget etc.

ChotoCheetah - any updates to that post ? any recent updates to parts?
or prices ?

All others - what u think of that 60 K Rs. high-end gaming/media center config? U ppl have any other alternatives to that? or some changes?

and one more thing - PLEASE tell me what is SLI ? and we need twins of
RAM chips or others cards or both - pls explain or give links to details. Ty:)

[niladrisde]

^^ M2A-VM has 690G chipset with X1250 IGP, it does not hav DX10 but u can run Vista with Aero interface without any hiccups.

But I recommend 2GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM or 2*1GB DDR2 667MHz for ur gfx designing jobs.....otherwise Vista will lag a lot.

Thanks a lot for the help. Sorry for the delay in response :p, I didn't check it earlier.

I need advise on one more problem. I am doing some DirectX game programming in parallel. Till now, using DirectX 9. However, will have to test (& tweak) my code in DirectX 10. Hence, I'll need one machine with DirectX 10. Any suggestion for the config (in lowest budget of course :()?

Thanks in advance to everyone.

[shivamamin]

Hi Guys,

I am from Mumbai and I want to assemble a computer for myself. My budget is 25 K which should include a 19" LCD Monitor (View Sonic) which will cost 9000 rupees so we have 16 K for the computer. I prefer an Intel Core 2 Duo Processor and 2 GB RAM. Is the Intel DG33PR MOBO good or is there a better MoBo instead?? I will use the computer mainly for internet, making programs on C++, VB and I might use CorelDraw. Please suggest a suitable config in my budget.

Thanks in Advance

[VINSTAR]

i am plannig to by
1GB DDR SDRAM
for my pc
intel p4
intel D101GGc board
any good suggestions?????

[stunnerz]

I am planning to buy a cpu,my budget is 15000Rs.i want an amd processor.plz suggest a mother board with on board graphics card,sata hdd,dvd writer,1 GB RAM,CABINET..ETC.I WOULD USE MAINLY FOR WATCHIN MOVIES ,DOWNLOADS,A LITTLE GAMING...GUYZZ PLZ HELP ME

[keith_j_snyder2]

i am plannig to by
1GB DDR SDRAM
for my pc
intel p4
intel D101GGc board
any good suggestions?????

Yeah! Save some money and go for an upgrade.
Or
1750/- for 1GB DDR 400MHz!

My suggestion: Rather save!

[yash2006]

hi guys , i'm planning to buy new system for me. please suggest pc configuration for me under Rs25,000 to 30,000 (excluding mobo and graphic card)

[hsetir]

LoL, if you exclude those two, you can have a heck of a pc for 30k.

[mastermunj]

guys, which mobo to choose between ASUS P5N-E SLI & Abit IP35-E??

what are their latest costs???

[nish_higher]

hmm...if sli is needed go for P5N-E SLi else IP35E is pretty good motherboard and costs 1.5k less than P5N E Sli.

[mastermunj]

which cabinet with power supply should i go for?
budget for cabinet is around 2k.

crossair or transcend, which pen drive??

[nish_higher]

Cooler master Elite 330 cabinet.best for cooling
Pen drive=corsair

[keith_j_snyder2]

Cooler Master 330 doesn't come with PSU so u can have any good Zebronics or I-Ball cabinet(like I-Benz)! And look for the cabinet with more space in it than any other. The bigger is better!

[MasterMinds]

hi guys i need some suggestions.....budget is 7000 inr plz suggest some good mobo and processor either from amd or from intel

[keith_j_snyder2]

EVGA112-CK-NF77-A1@ 4500/-
Intel Dual Core E2140 @ 2500/-
or

AMD Athlon 4800+ @ 3500/-
ASUS M2A-VM @ 3400/-

[mastermunj]

guys, any mobo equivalent abit IP35 - E with on board graphics and around same price???

i am buying graphics card also but want on board also in case if some problem comes with card.. i can still use my PC..

[blackpearl]

Should I go for a wide screen monitor or a normal monitor? I'm thinking about widescreen, but just wnat to know what you think.

Will my old 7300GS support such high resolution?

[keith_j_snyder2]

Should I go for a wide screen monitor or a normal monitor? I'm thinking about widescreen, but just wnat to know what you think.

Will my old 7300GS support such high resolution?

Well even 5200FX support widescreen monitor. The cards actually support resolution! Go for widescreen!

[janitha]

Should I go for a wide screen monitor or a normal monitor? I'm thinking about widescreen, but just wnat to know what you think.

Will my old 7300GS support such high resolution?

What is the screen size? That is the criterion.

[fragrant]

I want to buy a new lappy. My budget is 40k ± 2k. Which lappy to choose? prefer amd lappy without any os, but as of now will buy anything within my budget and which i'm able to buy from store instantly without waiting for alot of time ala dell.

[kanne]

hello every body
iam going for new pc
i shortlisted some hw
1st is mobo
i want to know which is better btw gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H & Asus M3A-H/HDMI
does above mobo comes within 5k ;)

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^ Both are good and both supports Hybrid X-Fire. Just find which one has better warranty in ur locality. I 'de go for ASUS.

guys, any mobo equivalent abit IP35 - E with on board graphics and around same price???

i am buying graphics card also but want on board also in case if some problem comes with card.. i can still use my PC..
BIOSTAR TP35D2-A7 is almost same as Abit IP35-E but no onboard graphics.
The motherboards with G35 chipsets like ASUS P5E-VM. But it costs almost 9000/-.
My Suggestion - Get P35 and buy a used cheap graphics card - might get it for 1000/- and still got money saved rather than P5E-VM.

[mastermunj]

^^ Both are good and both supports Hybrid X-Fire. Just find which one has better warranty in ur locality. I 'de go for ASUS.


BIOSTAR TP35D2-A7 is almost same as Abit IP35-E but no onboard graphics.
The motherboards with G35 chipsets like ASUS P5E-VM. But it costs almost 9000/-.
My Suggestion - Get P35 and buy a used cheap graphics card - might get it for 1000/- and still got money saved rather than P5E-VM.

thanks keith...

got same suggestion from another friend too....

but i thought of removing 2G RAM and thermal cooler for now which allows me to go for graphics card..

so for sometime i will OC my q6600 to little extent only and after 2 months will buy more RAM & cooler :p

yesterday on Latest Hardware Prices and Quotes thread i read that at 19" wide screen resolution, 8600GT may not be able to perform well... is it really the case?

[keith_j_snyder2]

8600GT is mainly for 1024X768 resolution. Any higher resolution requires 9600GT or above graphics card. Besides it also depends upon what games u play!

[nish_higher]

and now nvidia is out with 9500 GT to replace 8600GT and GTS

[keith_j_snyder2]

9500GT GDDR3 isn't out yet!
But will be available in june-july.
9500GT will replace 8600GT not GTS.
But don't know what will be the price - Expected less than 5500/-!

[nish_higher]

what i mean to say is nvidia is ready with 9500GT to replace 8600GT and GTS (acc to some website) ..benches show better performance than 8600GT , not GTS though.

[mastermunj]

so, shall i buy 8600GT?? or for now go with second hand graphic card and wait for 9500GT??

[Pathik]

Wait wor the 9600GSO. It should replace the 8600GT in the 5-6k bracket.

[mastermunj]

till that time???

shall i go for second hand GPU??

[quan chi]

well i want an smps of 400-430 watt which will be good.one of my friend told me i ball is quite good.and it comes around rs500.

[nish_higher]

no iball is tooo bad

better get a zebby or cooler master

[quan chi]

thanks. how much will a 400w zebronics or coolermaster smps cost.

[keith_j_snyder2]

what i mean to say is nvidia is ready with 9500GT to replace 8600GT and GTS (acc to some website) ..benches show better performance than 8600GT , not GTS though.

Yes siree! U are right about it and here (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/9500gt-beats-up-8600gt) is the link if anyone wants a proof.

thanks. how much will a 400w zebronics or coolermaster smps cost.


Now days barely see a 400W Cooler Master.
But here are few options:
CM 390W Extreme = 1900/-
CM 460W Extreme = 2450/-
Point of View Black Diamond 400W = 2200/-
Powersafe Gold 400W = 1550/-

till that time???

shall i go for second hand GPU??

Use any card for display purpose.

[?doubtfire?]

Hello
Help required

Wanna buy a 320 Gb Sata 2 HDD

Please post model nos from Seagate or WD & which one should i buy

[priyadarshi]

hello all techies. once again i need ur help for upgrading my desktop. it was a big mistake when i bought intel dg965ryck motherboard as it supports only upto 1066FSB E6700 processor 2.66Ghz

http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg965ry

where can i find the best compatible processor for my motherboard in nehru place? i tried at smc, computers empire and few more big shops but it wasn't available with them. plz help.

[nish_higher]

Hello
Help required

Wanna buy a 320 Gb Sata 2 HDD

Please post model nos from Seagate or WD & which one should i buy

definitely a wd 320aaks hard drive

[?doubtfire?]

thanks nish

Choose between these two

a) WD 320 AAKS -320gb,16mb buffer,7.2krpm
b) Seagate ST3500320AS-500gb,32mb buffer,7200.11 model---the one which was voted as best performance this year in digit

I qwn a 320 gb WD.....luv it.....but currently the price difference between the two is just 250 Rs......kinda leaning on the 500 gig...

Help me out

[keith_j_snyder2]

hello all techies. once again i need ur help for upgrading my desktop. it was a big mistake when i bought intel dg965ryck motherboard as it supports only upto 1066FSB E6700 processor 2.66Ghz

http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg965ry

where can i find the best compatible processor for my motherboard in nehru place? i tried at smc, computers empire and few more big shops but it wasn't available with them. plz help.

Any processor which supports upto 1066MHz FSB, depending on your budget.
That link u posted is an entire list of processors, ur motherboard supports.

U can also try Q6600, it's not on the list but its better than any other processor on that list.
Q6600 is Quad Core 2.4GHz having 8MB L2 Cache and will cost u back at 9650/-!

thanks nish

Choose between these two

a) WD 320 AAKS -320gb,16mb buffer,7.2krpm
b) Seagate ST3500320AS-500gb,32mb buffer,7200.11 model---the one which was voted as best performance this year in digit

I qwn a 320 gb WD.....luv it.....but currently the price difference between the two is just 250 Rs......kinda leaning on the 500 gig...

Help me out

The more beef the better!
Go for 32MB Cache

[realdan]

well this guide has not been updated for quite a long time in computer time

[priyadarshi]

thank u for ur reply keith_j_snyder2. as per intel website my dg965ry motherboard supports only upto core2duo e6700 not quad core processors and this was confirmed by intel technical support executive as well.
1066Mhz FSB quad core no doubt is the best processor from any one in the above list. it is well within my budget but quad core is not supported. plz help me finding e6700 in delhi. or i'll have no option left other than to sell out my costly 965ry at a thow away price and get a better motherboard which supports quad core at less than half of the price of this board.

[janitha]

thank u for ur reply keith_j_snyder2. as per intel website my dg965ry motherboard supports only upto core2duo e6700 not quad core processors and this was confirmed by intel technical support executive as well.
1066Mhz FSB quad core no doubt is the best processor from any one in the above list. it is well within my budget but quad core is not supported. plz help me finding e6700 in delhi. or i'll have no option left other than to sell out my costly 965ry at a thow away price and get a better motherboard which supports quad core at less than half of the price of this board.

It is a bitter fact. All of us do have to face such situations.

[batsD1]

Guys I'm planning to go in for a new system and would like your opinions on the config.

1. ASUS Rampage Formula - 19400/-
2. Intel Q6600 - 2.4 - 10400/-
3. Kingston - 2x2 Gb DDR2 1066Mhz modules
4. XFX 9800 GTX black edition / BFG GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB OCX - 13500/-
5. Either Seagate 500 GB 7200.11 SATA / WD RE2 500GB / Western Digital Caviar SE16 750 GB / Western Digital Caviar SE16 (WD5000AAKS) / Samsung SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ (Can't decide. Help me out here)
6. PSU : Corsair HX620W Power Supply /Corsair TX750W Power Supply / Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850 W
7. Cabinet:The Antec Nine Hundred/ Cooler Master Stacker 830 Full Tower/Thermaltake SwordM VD500LBNA Full Tower Case

Ned help deciding Graphics, HDD, PSU and cabinet. Plus opinions on motherboard. Would appreciate any inputs. Thanks

[gxsaurav]

Buy Western Digital 500 GB green power hard disks.

[keith_j_snyder2]

thank u for ur reply keith_j_snyder2. as per intel website my dg965ry motherboard supports only upto core2duo e6700 not quad core processors and this was confirmed by intel technical support executive as well.
1066Mhz FSB quad core no doubt is the best processor from any one in the above list. it is well within my budget but quad core is not supported. plz help me finding e6700 in delhi. or i'll have no option left other than to sell out my costly 965ry at a thow away price and get a better motherboard which supports quad core at less than half of the price of this board.

There are very little chances that u will find a new Q6700, but still it would cost u much and doesn't make any good.
Who told u my friend that Q6700 is the only option. U can go for E6600 (Still pricey)!
Try E4500 - 2.2GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2MB L2Cache ( Somewhat around 5000/-), best according to me ( If gaming is not the top Priority)

I don't know what to say u about the expensive motherboard, but technologically speaking, loose the board and get a P35 chipset (A-bit IP35-E or Biostar TP35D2A7) and use any processor u want which supports 1333MHz FSB!

Your choice!

Guys I'm planning to go in for a new system and would like your opinions on the config.

1. ASUS Rampage Formula - 19400/-
2. Intel Q6600 - 2.4 - 10400/-
3. Kingston - 2x2 Gb DDR2 1066Mhz modules
4. XFX 9800 GTX black edition / BFG GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB OCX - 13500/-
5. Either Seagate 500 GB 7200.11 SATA / WD RE2 500GB / Western Digital Caviar SE16 750 GB / Western Digital Caviar SE16 (WD5000AAKS) / Samsung SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ (Can't decide. Help me out here)
6. PSU : Corsair HX620W Power Supply /Corsair TX750W Power Supply / Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850 W
7. Cabinet:The Antec Nine Hundred/ Cooler Master Stacker 830 Full Tower/Thermaltake SwordM VD500LBNA Full Tower Case

Ned help deciding Graphics, HDD, PSU and cabinet. Plus opinions on motherboard. Would appreciate any inputs. Thanks

First thing.....woooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh!!!!!!
Are u going to a shooting rampage with that board?
Now come to the point,
Extreme motherboard and low processor (in proportion)
With this board, u should try some Extreme series processor like QX9770 or QX6850....but that will hit the pocket hard!
Should opt for Q9450.
With that board 1066Mhz DDR2 is something waste of money, DDR2 1066MHz and DDR3 1333MHz would cost almost same....very less price difference.
Either go for high-grade 800MHz DDR2 or 133MHz DDR3.
9800GTX for 13500/-!!!:confused::confused::confused: Don't tell me u checked the price form newegg.com?
If going for SLI or X-Fire then Corsair TX750W otherwise HX620 is sufficient!

Rest of the stuff is U-L-T-M-A-T-E!

[batsD1]

There are very little chances that u will find a new Q6700, but still it would cost u much and doesn't make any good.
Who told u my friend that Q6700 is the only option. U can go for E6600 (Still pricey)!
Try E4500 - 2.2GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2MB L2Cache ( Somewhat around 5000/-), best according to me ( If gaming is not the top Priority)

I don't know what to say u about the expensive motherboard, but technologically speaking, loose the board and get a P35 chipset (A-bit IP35-E or Biostar TP35D2A7) and use any processor u want which supports 1333MHz FSB!

Your choice!



First thing.....woooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh!!!!!!
Are u going to a shooting rampage with that board?
Now come to the point,
Extreme motherboard and low processor (in proportion)
With this board, u should try some Extreme series processor like QX9770 or QX6850....but that will hit the pocket hard!
Should opt for Q9450.
With that board 1066Mhz DDR2 is something waste of money, DDR2 1066MHz and DDR3 1333MHz would cost almost same....very less price difference.
Either go for high-grade 800MHz DDR2 or 133MHz DDR3.
9800GTX for 13500/-!!!:confused::confused::confused: Don't tell me u checked the price form newegg.com?
If going for SLI or X-Fire then Corsair TX750W otherwise HX620 is sufficient!

Rest of the stuff is U-L-T-M-A-T-E!


Thanks for the reply Keith and gx_saurav.

Regards processor - I think the q9450 is not available in delhi and from what I've read is that the Q 6600 can be overclocked. What do you think?
I'm not too sure if the rampage formula supports DDR3 coz its not mentioned in asus website. I plan to go for either Kingston 2GB 1066MHz DDR2 Non-ECC CL7 DIMM / Corsair DDR2-1066 (Dominator-8500C5*4GB*EPP)
XFX 9800 GTX. Got the price from my vendor. Will reconfirm.
Guess will go in for WD caviar 500 GB in raid 0, and no I don't plan on SLI so HX620 it is for me. MAybe I might need Aquagate max from cooler master for cooling if overclocking.

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ That motherboard doesn't support DDR3, it has DDR2 1066MHz support. What i am saying is, that u have opted for a X48 chipset, which support DDR2 RAM, u know its better to go with X38 if u plan to buy DDR2, but if buying that much expensive motherboard and still buying a DDR2 RAM doesn't make a good point. My suggestion is:
1. If DDR2 RAM, then buy P35, X38 chipset.
2. If X48 chipset, then go for DDR3 RAM.

A-Bit X38 Quad GT is a good motherboard and costs almost half of Rampage Formula and also support 1600MHz FSB. I red somewhere sometimes ago ,that X48 chipset is not much different than X38, i m not sure how true it was but the specifications of both says that there isn't much, i m gonna digg this soon.

Save some cash over motherboard and buy some better processor Q9450.
Q9450 might not be available this time but will be available within next few days or a week time. Q6600 is a good processor but not better than Q9450.

Intel chipsets like X48 (Rampage formula supports 2x Pci-e @ full X16X16) ,X38 etc. supports X-Fire, so either u go with one single nVidia card or if planing for 2 graphics cards, then buy 2 ATi for X-fire.
Wait for RV770 (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/amd-will-rv770-on-16th-june) and GTX 280 (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/gtx280-is-a-single-chip-graphics-card) launch and then buy graphics card.

Dude u are buying something really high end but on the verge of technological change!

[blueshift]

My cousin wants to buy a new PC within 23-25k.

Except the processor and mobo, the config is:
2GB 667Mhz RAM, 160 GB SATA hdd, 17" CRT, Keyb+Mouse, DVD-RW, ATX cab, 2.1 Creative speakers...
...according to me it adds upto Rs.13,200. So that leaves upto 10k for proccessor and mobo.

So could anyone please suggest procc+mobo combination within 10k. I prefer to have AMD ..so that UPS can be added too. No probabilty of buying a graphics card. So everything needs to be onboard.

It will be used for normal work and occasionally gaming and photoshop-ing/3D design. It must be able to play atleast NFSU2 in moderate settings.

One of the computer shops here suggested AMD XP5000+ and ASUS mobo(combo pack). He didn't remember the mobo model but said it will be cost effective to buy them in combo rather than individually. So I would like to know which is the combo pack tht is selling in the market(especially the mobo model).. I am looking for good onboard graphic sol.(no VIA chipset).

[keith_j_snyder2]

My cousin wants to buy a new PC within 23-25k.

Except the processor and mobo, the config is:
2GB 667Mhz RAM, 160 GB SATA hdd, 17" CRT, Keyb+Mouse, DVD-RW, ATX cab, 2.1 Creative speakers...
...according to me it adds upto Rs.13,200. So that leaves upto 10k for proccessor and mobo.

So could anyone please suggest procc+mobo combination within 10k. I prefer to have AMD ..so that UPS can be added too. No probabilty of buying a graphics card. So everything needs to be onboard.

It will be used for normal work and occasionally gaming and photoshop-ing/3D design. It must be able to play atleast NFSU2 in moderate settings.

One of the computer shops here suggested AMD XP5000+ and ASUS mobo(combo pack). He didn't remember the mobo model but said it will be cost effective to buy them in combo rather than individually. So I would like to know which is the combo pack tht is selling in the market(especially the mobo model).. I am looking for good onboard graphic sol.(no VIA chipset).

Since ur choice is AMD and need onboard video too, then i suggest something with Hybrid graphics.
AMD 7-Series chipsets supports Hybrid graphics and do as gx_saurav suggested in here (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=834885#post834885). There are few other brands too which has 7-series chipsets so take a look at them.

[batsD1]

^ That motherboard doesn't support DDR3, it has DDR2 1066MHz support. What i am saying is, that u have opted for a X48 chipset, which support DDR2 RAM, u know its better to go with X38 if u plan to buy DDR2, but if buying that much expensive motherboard and still buying a DDR2 RAM doesn't make a good point. My suggestion is:
1. If DDR2 RAM, then buy P35, X38 chipset.
2. If X48 chipset, then go for DDR3 RAM.

A-Bit X38 Quad GT is a good motherboard and costs almost half of Rampage Formula and also support 1600MHz FSB. I red somewhere sometimes ago ,that X48 chipset is not much different than X38, i m not sure how true it was but the specifications of both says that there isn't much, i m gonna digg this soon.

Save some cash over motherboard and buy some better processor Q9450.
Q9450 might not be available this time but will be available within next few days or a week time. Q6600 is a good processor but not better than Q9450.

Intel chipsets like X48 (Rampage formula supports 2x Pci-e @ full X16X16) ,X38 etc. supports X-Fire, so either u go with one single nVidia card or if planing for 2 graphics cards, then buy 2 ATi for X-fire.
Wait for RV770 (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/amd-will-rv770-on-16th-june) and GTX 280 (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/gtx280-is-a-single-chip-graphics-card) launch and then buy graphics card.

Dude u are buying something really high end but on the verge of technological change!


Thanks keith. You are right of course. If I am going to spend that much money it does make sense to wait for a couple of weeks. Even my vendor says the same. Both Nvidia and ATI are going to launch in June. Makes sense to wait till then. Thanks for the input.

[blueshift]

Thanks.
I have shortlisted these two mobos.
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H
Asus M2N - VM DVI

[gxsaurav]

Go for gigabyte

[phuchungbhutia]

I had gone to a hardware shop asking for new mobo asus m2n they said its not avail they had some meeting with asus ppl and shopkeepers abt issues with mobo . . .is it so does asus have such prob with customers . . . They use msi now . . .

[priyadarshi]

There are very little chances that u will find a new Q6700, but still it would cost u much and doesn't make any good.
Who told u my friend that Q6700 is the only option. U can go for E6600 (Still pricey)!
Try E4500 - 2.2GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2MB L2Cache ( Somewhat around 5000/-), best according to me ( If gaming is not the top Priority)

I don't know what to say u about the expensive motherboard, but technologically speaking, loose the board and get a P35 chipset (A-bit IP35-E or Biostar TP35D2A7) and use any processor u want which supports 1333MHz FSB!

Your choice!



thanks u janitha and keith for ur suggestions...
@ keith
i didn't said that q6700 is the only option for dg965ry, i said that 36700 is the highest compatible processor for my board according to intel's site. please refer to my link.

the latest processor that supports my motherboard i found is e4600 2.4ghz, 2mb l2cache, 800mhz fsb. this cost me rs.5350. i'm not into gaming so its better using it for next 2-3 years with e4600 rather than loosing it. may be get a new computer (without monitor) when according to budget later on.

thank u once again for ur valuable suggestions. hope u people will continue helping we forum members with ur knowledge and suggestions.

[doyouthink]

..can anyone tell how the Intel Dual Core E2160 will do ?

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^ Check the review (http://www.techspot.com/review/53-pentium-e2140-e2160/)!

[Gigacore]

Hi guys,

I'm planning to buy a 22" Samsung Widescreen LCD Monitor after a month or two. But the problem is, I have nVidia GeForce MX 400 graphics card that do not support 1680 x 1050 resolution which the monitor does.

So I am planning to get a new AGP graphic card before buying the monitor. So can anyone tell me which one to buy ? My max budget for gfx card is ~4k. It must support 1680 x 1050 resolution. And I've read somewhere that 6600 GT will do the job, but whats the price ?

Hmm.. waiting for replies..

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ now days u barely get a new AGP card, there are very few options.
ATi still launch AGP cards timr to time but nVidia has stopped the AGP production after 8-series graphics card.

U may get a used 6600AGP and within that price range even 6600GT or may be a 6800 too. Have a look at BAZAAR section too.

[?doubtfire?]

Guys

I really want ur help here

Budget Excluding Monitor is INRs 15k

Purpose of rig
Office Applications ,Tally,Browsing,Occasional Music & Movies

Main considerations
Onboard Graphics
Low Power Consumption
Low heat generation

AMD Config:

Processor--AMD X2 5600+----=5675
Mb --ASUS M2A-VM-----=3400 or M2M-VM----confused ????
RAM --1gb DDR2 667Ghz Transcend or 800 Ghz.....?????
HDD --320GB Sata2 Seagate or WD....?????
Cabinet & PSU---Zebronics entry level models
Kb & Mouse combi ----Logitech

The monitor i intend to use is Samsung 19'' LCD 920 NW which i currently use

The Intel counterpart is also welcomed here Budget can be extended to 18 k if it is intel

Please pour ur ideas ...intend to buy in a week ...else will wait if new models come in

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ Entire config. is good enough but change that board. Now days various brands offer AMD 7-series 780,790 chipsets which sports Hybrid graphics.
Choose AMD 780G or higher chipsets.

E2180, IP35-E rest will remain same.

[?doubtfire?]

^^
Thanks keith....

Cue me in
1) Model no of AMD 780G....from ASUS....
2) 800 or 667 Ghz DDR2 Ram
3) WD or Seagate 320Gigger

Will the mobo onboard graphics support DELL 24" LCD....for videos

Waiting for reply

[gxsaurav]

^^^ Yes

[dushi23]

Hiiii tech greeks..
My cousin wants a decent multimedia desktop in the budget of 35k!!
The main use wlll be watching movies,surfing internet,making audio video presentations,listning music,playing occasional games etc etc.

the config. i suggested is:
Processor:Intel c2d e4600
Motherboard:intel dg33(abit ip35 e is nt available :confused:)
Ram:Kingston 2gb(1gbx2) @800mhz
Hard Disk:Segate 250gb sata 2
Optical drive:Sony 20x sata dvd writer
cabinet:Iball benz with 500 watt smps
Lcd:Samsung 943nw
Keyboard+Mouse:Logitech wireless
Graphic card:xfx 8600gt ddr3
speakers:altec lansing vs2421(atp 3 is nt available)

Is it fine or should i alter it??
Plz give ur valuable feedbak
Nd also 1 more thing i need a inkjet printer in da budget of 2k(just 4 home stuff) plz suggest da best 1!!

[batsD1]

Thanks keith. You are right of course. If I am going to spend that much money it does make sense to wait for a couple of weeks. Even my vendor says the same. Both Nvidia and ATI are going to launch in June. Makes sense to wait till then. Thanks for the input.

Keith just saw this new config from dell

The XPS 420 with following options

Quad Q6700
Intel X38 Mobo
Vista ultimate
22" Panel
4 GB dDDR 2 800Mhz
500 GB SATA raid 0
nVidia 8800 GT 512 Mb
Speakers, onboard sound etc

Total cost approx 1,12,000/-

XPS 730

Core 2 quad 9450
NVIDIA® nForce 790i Ultra SLi
DellTM E228WFP 22" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor
2GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz
750 GB SATA
Dual 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GT / HD 3870 x 2
H2C liquid cooling

Approx cost 1,61,000/-

What is your opinion. Can I assemble cheaper or should I still wait?

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ Dude! Both are over priced rigs. But if i have to choose one, it 'de be the second one because of more future proofed.
Even 2nd didn't utilize the full potential, 790i and 8800GT SLI, now that would be raping 790i all the way.
I bet u can assemble a better config. than this in same price!

I still suggest u to wait or go with the one i told u earlier!

Hiiii tech greeks..
My cousin wants a decent multimedia desktop in the budget of 35k!!
The main use wlll be watching movies,surfing internet,making audio video presentations,listning music,playing occasional games etc etc.

the config. i suggested is:
Processor:Intel c2d e4600
Motherboard:intel dg33(abit ip35 e is nt available :confused:)
Ram:Kingston 2gb(1gbx2) @800mhz
Hard Disk:Segate 250gb sata 2
Optical drive:Sony 20x sata dvd writer
cabinet:Iball benz with 500 watt smps
Lcd:Samsung 943nw
Keyboard+Mouse:Logitech wireless
Graphic card:xfx 8600gt ddr3
speakers:altec lansing vs2421(atp 3 is nt available)

Is it fine or should i alter it??
Plz give ur valuable feedbak
Nd also 1 more thing i need a inkjet printer in da budget of 2k(just 4 home stuff) plz suggest da best 1!!

Processor - E7200 (better VFM)
Motherboard: Try any other brand but P35 is worth since he is buying a graphics card and G33 is a waste of money.

Rest of the config. is great.

[?doubtfire?]

Guys Help

Cue me in to choosing among these mobo
1) M2A-VM HDMI 690G Chipset
2) M3A78-EMH HDMI AMD 780G
3) M3A78-EH AMD 780G

Or else should i go for Abit mobos

I dont OC these as these are not meant for games

[desiibond]

For AMD, go for the 780/770/790 boards. Go for Gigabyte or ASUS or MSI, whichever has more features and whichever is cheaper.

also look for Socket AM2+ and phenom support so that you can upgrade to AMD's next gen processor without changing mobo and ram.

[?doubtfire?]

exactly am confused as ...what to choose over the models above

[keith_j_snyder2]

^M3A78-EMH HDMI is the best of all because it has VGA, DVI and HDMI, all 3 on one board so u have multiple outputs.

[batsD1]

^ Dude! Both are over priced rigs. But if i have to choose one, it 'de be the second one because of more future proofed.
Even 2nd didn't utilize the full potential, 790i and 8800GT SLI, now that would be raping 790i all the way.
I bet u can assemble a better config. than this in same price!

I still suggest u to wait or go with the one i told u earlier!



Processor - E7200 (better VFM)
Motherboard: Try any other brand but P35 is worth since he is buying a graphics card and G33 is a waste of money.

Rest of the config. is great.

Will do. Thanks for the tip keith.

[desiibond]

^M3A78-EMH HDMI is the best of all because it has VGA, DVI and HDMI, all 3 on one board so u have multiple outputs.


add to that eSATA, 8channel audio, dx10 onboard.

[paranj]

Buy the 2nd. Its ur best bet

[Sandeepfrompune]

any updates on very first post in this forum? I mean when does chotocheeta updates his first post? with latest pricing or new components whatever are there... !!!
:)

[ArZuNeOs]

Sandeep ....Chotocheeta ....is a busy man...look up the is thread ...as in read others posts...they have more news man....Be glad u find all Hardware related news in one thread...

Anyway when choto gets time & when he finds it relevant he will update the No 1

[sonicspeed]

thanks u janitha and keith for ur suggestions...
@ keith
i didn't said that q6700 is the only option for dg965ry, i said that 36700 is the highest compatible processor for my board according to intel's site. please refer to my link.

the latest processor that supports my motherboard i found is e4600 2.4ghz, 2mb l2cache, 800mhz fsb. this cost me rs.5350. i'm not into gaming so its better using it for next 2-3 years with e4600 rather than loosing it. may be get a new computer (without monitor) when according to budget later on.

thank u once again for ur valuable suggestions. hope u people will continue helping we forum members with ur knowledge and suggestions.

Sir i will suggest core2duo e7200. rs.400 more than e4600

[?doubtfire?]

^M3A78-EMH HDMI is the best of all because it has VGA, DVI and HDMI, all 3 on one board so u have multiple outputs.

errr....I guess both models have all 3 onboard according to AMD website....thats funny!!!!
M3A78-EMH HDMI http://products.amd.com/en-us/MotherboardDetail.aspx?id=86
M3A78-EH
http://products.amd.com/en-us/MotherboardDetail.aspx?id=91

Please correct me if i am wrong

The asus website is not giving me proper details

Also tell me if GA-MA74GM-S2H is good

Tell me which one is good amongst the three

[keith_j_snyder2]

M3A78-EH (http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2130&modelmenu=1) - Non HDMI and Full ATX board. (No VGA,DVI,HDMI port - But will work in Hybrid X-Fire)
M3A78-EMH HDMI (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2064&modelmenu=1) - HDMI and micro ATX form factor. (Onboard VGA, DVI and HDMI)

Scroll through the end of the page and compare I/O panel.

The Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2H - It has 2 DIMMS (max. 800Mhz) and has 740G.

M3A78-EMH HDMI is by far the best option.

[priyadarshi]

Sir i will suggest core2duo e7200. rs.400 more than e4600

thanx speed, but dg965ry supports only upto e6700 as per the intel site and i cudn't find the latest processor in nehru place so using e4600.

[?doubtfire?]

M3A78-EH (http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2130&modelmenu=1) - Non HDMI and Full ATX board. (No VGA,DVI,HDMI port - But will work in Hybrid X-Fire)
M3A78-EMH HDMI (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2064&modelmenu=1) - HDMI and micro ATX form factor. (Onboard VGA, DVI and HDMI)

Scroll through the end of the page and compare I/O panel.

The Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2H - It has 2 DIMMS (max. 800Mhz) and has 740G.

M3A78-EMH HDMI is by far the best option.

oh i am sorry the Ga model is actually GA-MA78GM-S2H which is a 780G

Also point which one among these 5.1 speakers

Logitech X 540
Altec Lansing vs3251 reviewed by digit

I already have Logitech z 5500 ...but this one is for a friend of mine who is low on budget & dont want to use a sound card

BTW which one has low power consumption

[guest]

Hi

I wanted help building a system, i already have a gr8 high end system, but i need a good silent one as a second system, i should run reliably for 24hours and should be really silent. Should have a microATX motherboard and should run vista. Any suggestions?? Prefer onboard graphics if i can.

[paranj]

@guest

Processor and Mobo -- Intel E2160 + Intel D945G
RAM - 2GB DDR2 667MHz Kingston Value
160GB Hitachi SATA hdd 7200.10
I know u are asking for onboard but better pay more and get more -- MSI 8400GS
Creative SBS speakers
LG 15" CRT
Microsoft Multimedia kbd
Microsft Multimedia mouse
Zebronics Krissh cabinet
Adcom 400W PSU

[Sandeepfrompune]

Sandeep ....Chotocheeta ....is a busy man...look up the is thread ...as in read others posts...they have more news man....Be glad u find all Hardware related news in one thread...

Anyway when choto gets time & when he finds it relevant he will update the No 1

u r right man. we get soo much info in all these sticky and other threads....

BTW i wanted to think of cooling solutions also. any 'Cool' thread here ? some post
in early days where I can find info...? like which are best in business ...

[keith_j_snyder2]

oh i am sorry the Ga model is actually GA-MA78GM-S2H which is a 780G

Also point which one among these 5.1 speakers

Logitech X 540
Altec Lansing vs3251 reviewed by digit

I already have Logitech z 5500 ...but this one is for a friend of mine who is low on budget & dont want to use a sound card

BTW which one has low power consumption

Same as M3A78-EMH HDMI (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2064&modelmenu=1)

X540 sound is great, best for movies and games.
donno about Altec Lansing vs3251.

[sonicspeed]

x540 is good as suggested by Keith ji.
it has 70w rms.

[mastermunj]

guys,

i have planned to get Abit IP35-E for my pc.. but i heard that it does not have good onboard sound... any other motherboard in nearby price range with P35 chipset and better onboard sound???

[keith_j_snyder2]

Buy Sound blaster or ASUS Xonar!
Onboard sound chips are almost the same in every board. U will find some high end boards with some quality sound cards otherwise all are same.

[purujitb]

Hi,

I want to buy a PC within 20K +/- 5k range just for basic purposes like word processing, surfing, etc(replacing my old P3). After going through this thread I am thinking about this config:

AMD X2 4200+ @ Rs. 2900 /- + TAX
ASUS M2A-VM @ Rs. 3200 /-
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 1800 /-
Any Local Cabinet with 450 watts SMPS @ Rs. 1200 /-
Logitech Keyboard Mouse Combo @ Rs. 700 /-
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400 /-
19" Samsung @10400 /-

approx 21k /- + tax

I already have a HDD, speakers and a DVD writer, so I don't need them.
Also I might buy a gfx card later for some gaming(ASUS 8600GT).

Is this config good or should I change some specs. Please comment.

Thanks in advance:)

[paranj]

^^ya if u do only casual things than its very good. Serious multimedia and gaming than not good. I suggest u stick the Intel E2160 + Intel D945G. around a difference of 100-200 bucks but will get good performance! Ur graphic card is good for casual gaming

[purujitb]

^^Thanks for the reply.

But isn't E2160 'Pentium Dual Core'?? Will that be better than AMD X2??

And how is E4300(please tell me the price too) instead of E2160.

[paranj]

nope its a severly cut-down version of the Core 2 Duo's but easily outperforms YOUR choosen X2. E4300 is better than the E2160. i'll tell u the price as soon as i get it but i approx it not to be more than 3.5k

[Guru Prasad]

Hi all,
I am not very familiar with da world of computers...I need to purchase a laptop for my cousin...he will use it for browsing, movies, document processing, gaming(but not very heavy), etc...
it will be better if the laptop has a built in webcamera, bluetooth capability and has a good processing speed as well... Shud he buy some branded laptop or is it possible to get 1 assembeled... if so Plz suggest a suitable configution for the same...
Budget is 30-35k...

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

^^^^^^^^^
hey go for dell 1420 or dell 1525.
don't know about others though.

[mukherjee]

i have decided on the following specs for a new rig...albeit low cost...with a few bouts o gaming thrown in.

amd athlon x2 4600+.................3250
1GB ddr2 800 ram to start with....1150(will update later)
160GB sata 2 hdd......................1900

actually i m confused abt the motherboard. i have an old 8600gt on me,which i will replace by a 8800gt shortly.and i wanna place this 8600gt on the new rig.

i have shortlisted two chipsets with decent onboard vids...amd 780g and the nvidia 8200mgpu based borads.

780g-Gigabyte-GA-MA78GM-S2H,
8200mgpu- Gigabyte-GA-M78SM-S2H,
ASUS M3N78 EMH HDMI.

i am worried whether the 8600gt will run on the amd 780g system. am i right abt it?

i am also confused abt the price.....of the mobos.
i have placed apart 1500 bucks for the cabinet and smps. My max range is 12000.

Plz advise on the choice of the motherboard.....

[56561]

look my present config is like : AMD 64 bit CPU athelon venice core
msi rs482 motherboard
1 GB ddr ram

Now I want to upgrade in a config where I can play most of the dx10 games . what will u suggest ?

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

8600gt mercury gddr3 costs around 3k.

[paranj]

@56561

ok first get a new mobo and A CPU. As i dont know ur budget, i will suggest what a human can afford:D.

CPU - E8200
Mobo - Abit IP35e Off-limits
RAM - Transcend 2GB DDR2 800MHz
HDD - (it depends on u but i am just recommanding at a general thought) Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200.10

Graphics Card - (budget) ASUS EN8600GT 256MB (medium) Sparkle 9600GT 512MB (high) 8800GT 512MB (extreme)Zotac 9800GTX AMP! Edition. (more than xtreme) Gigabyte 9800GX2

Monitor - Dell 22" (please can some1 post the model number?) anyways go for Dell.

Mouse, Keyboard, Speakers, Headphones and Case can be dealt by u.

Will recommand Cooler Master eXtreme power 600W PSU.

Price depends on the GPU u choose.

Budget - 35-40k
Medium - 40-45k
High - 45-50k
Extreme - 60k
more than eXtreme - 75k!

Post more queries if u have!

[desiibond]

look my present config is like : AMD 64 bit CPU athelon venice core
msi rs482 motherboard
1 GB ddr ram

Now I want to upgrade in a config where I can play most of the dx10 games . what will u suggest ?


That's the same config that I have only thing is that the chipset is 6100 nvidia. Now, installed ATI 2600XT and am able to play most of the games at 1440x900 resolution on a 19" monitor. 8600GT performs better. So get yourself MSI/ASUS/Gigabyte 8600GT. Should cost you around 4.5k for 256mb edition.

First I thought that the single proccy could be a serious bottleneck, but heck no. I tested my card on AMD X2 4400+ 2.3GHz machine with DDR2667RAM and the difference was very very minute. So, there is no need to upgrade everything to slightly better conifg. you will see difference only when you install something like E7200 or a quad core proccy with 2-3gig DDR2800Mhz ram. No noticeable difference if you use an entry level dual core proccy's.

[bikdel]

@dessibond... how much did u pay for it???.... My frn has this config,

Celeron 2.26 GHz 256 KB cache
1 GB DDR 400

he wants to play games on this pc and is looking for gfx card.. HD 2600 XT is AGP isnt it?.... should i recommend it to him?... and price???

AND HELP ME WITH THIS.... i posted a separate thread but got really less replies... i guess i will get more replies here....


Hi guys. Im looking forward to put a PC in the living room for the guests to access internet and do simple office work. I dont like them fiddling my own pc thats why.

Alright here are the things I need. I dont care if its low end in any sense, dont have it to be a powerhouse.
1. Should be dead serious about power saving. I will keep it always on, on standby when not in use. Will also use it for downloads if necessary.
2. 15" LCD 1024x768 (Cheapest one will do. No Multimedia usage. Only internet and office work)
3. KB+Mouse Combo.
4. Makeshift Stereo Speakers.
5. Good looking cabinet (preferably horizontal and small form) with around 250 w PSU
6. Proccy that consumes really less power, no multicore needed. Cheap(est) will do. Semprons are okay for that isnt it?
7. 512 MB DDR2 667 Atleast.
8. Basic Mobo with onboard graphics, sound and lan.
9. 80 Gb HDD atleast. But that should be enough for this purpose.
10. No optical drive needed as I will network it to my primary PC.

Thank you.
Bikalp Paudel

Budget : Minimum possible..... after i get that minimum config, u guys can recommend whats VFM n i'll consider :D lets keep it around 15 k... :D

[Pathik]

^^
1. Asus M2A VM + Sempron LE 1150, 15" AOC LCD.

[ankitsagwekar]

i have shortlisted two chipsets with decent onboard vids...amd 780g and the nvidia 8200mgpu based borads.


8200mgpu mobo available in india ??

[desiibond]

@dessibond... how much did u pay for it???.... My frn has this config,

Celeron 2.26 GHz 256 KB cache
1 GB DDR 400

he wants to play games on this pc and is looking for gfx card.. HD 2600 XT is AGP isnt it?.... should i recommend it to him?... and price???

AND HELP ME WITH THIS.... i posted a separate thread but got really less replies... i guess i will get more replies here....


Hi guys. Im looking forward to put a PC in the living room for the guests to access internet and do simple office work. I dont like them fiddling my own pc thats why.

Alright here are the things I need. I dont care if its low end in any sense, dont have it to be a powerhouse.
1. Should be dead serious about power saving. I will keep it always on, on standby when not in use. Will also use it for downloads if necessary.
2. 15" LCD 1024x768 (Cheapest one will do. No Multimedia usage. Only internet and office work)
3. KB+Mouse Combo.
4. Makeshift Stereo Speakers.
5. Good looking cabinet (preferably horizontal and small form) with around 250 w PSU
6. Proccy that consumes really less power, no multicore needed. Cheap(est) will do. Semprons are okay for that isnt it?
7. 512 MB DDR2 667 Atleast.
8. Basic Mobo with onboard graphics, sound and lan.
9. 80 Gb HDD atleast. But that should be enough for this purpose.
10. No optical drive needed as I will network it to my primary PC.

Thank you.
Bikalp Paudel

Budget : Minimum possible..... after i get that minimum config, u guys can recommend whats VFM n i'll consider :D lets keep it around 15 k... :D

I paid around 6k for it but you better deal will be to get MSI/Palit 8600GT for 4.5k.

Go for the config that Pathik suggested.

Also check:

1) Intel E2180: Rs.3k
2) ASUS P5kPL or Intel DG31PR: Rs.3.5k
3) 512MB DDR2 667: Rs.700 or 1gig for Rs. 1100

Rest is your choice.

[paranj]

go for 1gig

[bikdel]

@desiibond
my fren wants agp, not pcie, n i guess urs is agp one.

For the pc i want, ur recommendation is power hungry and more than what the purpose needs. Im thinkin about this:

Intel Atom 1.8 ghz CPU+Mobo (3.5k)
OR
Intel celeron e1xxx 1.8 ghz (1.8k) + Biostar n7050 mobo(2.2k)

1 Gb Transcend value ddr 800 (1.5k)
WD 160 Gb sata 2 (2k)
Cabby+psu ;suggest me a cabby that looks good 4 livin room; (1.2k)

and please inform me abt the lcd plz, i dun kno model/price?

Ps: if i buy intel atom, il need a small n cute cabby, where can i find it and price? It shud be ITX size, isnt it)

[janitha]

@desiibond
my fren wants agp, not pcie, n i guess urs is agp one.

For the pc i want, ur recommendation is power hungry and more than what the purpose needs. Im thinkin about this:

Intel Atom 1.8 ghz CPU+Mobo (3.5k)
OR
Intel celeron e1xxx 1.8 ghz (1.8k) + Biostar n7050 mobo(2.2k)

1 Gb Transcend value ddr 800 (1.5k)
WD 160 Gb sata 2 (2k)
Cabby+psu ;suggest me a cabby that looks good 4 livin room; (1.2k)

and please inform me abt the lcd plz, i dun kno model/price?

Ps: if i buy intel atom, il need a small n cute cabby, where can i find it and price? It shud be ITX size, isnt it)

Is Atom already available in India? If so, from any online store?

[Pathik]

^^ No way man. It was launched just yesterday. Getting Atom chips is gonna take another month in india.

[nish_higher]

atom available

check deltapage.com :)

but VIA is more tempting..

[paranj]

maybe years :D India is so developed and hot favourite in hardware market.

[bikdel]

Its been a while they were available. Saw on delta page

[desiibond]

Mine is PCIe card and not AGP. I don't even have AGP slot on my mobo. hmm. For low budget, why don't you check the UMPC's like ASUS EEE PC. Yes, Intel Atom is also a good choice but noone knows how reliable it is and how compatible it is with current apps and how stable it is.

[paranj]

Eee PC is cuming with a Atom proccy i think soon. :)

[janitha]

Eee PC is cuming with a Atom proccy i think soon. :)

Asus,MSI etc. etc.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/14/asuss-atom-based-eee-901-shows-up-in-pictures/

http://hothardware.com/cs2007/forums/t/38835.aspx

[paranj]

ya thanks for the llinks. Refer to them:)

[keith_j_snyder2]

There is also an ASUS Eee Box Available Check This (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/more-different-eee-box-specs-surface-online) and This (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/asus-ebox-cracked-open-for-world-to-see-previewed)

[sonicspeed]

^^Thanks for the reply.

But isn't E2160 'Pentium Dual Core'?? Will that be better than AMD X2??

And how is E4300(please tell me the price too) instead of E2160.

Sir if wan't to overclock ur system then buy e2160 otherwise amd is better. the e2160 will give better performance if it is overclocked but stock speeds are much better with amd.

[paranj]

^^+1 and if u really OCing than u can even beat some E45xx CPUs.. The E2160 is one hell of a overclocker!

[sonicspeed]

atom available

check deltapage.com :)

but VIA is more tempting..

sit it is a celeron processor.

[paranj]

roflz

[desiibond]

sit it is a celeron processor.

You don't need a Core2Extreme to drive EEE PC :)

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ Sonic is right. Do check the page again. Its not Atom its Celeron. There are many Low-End config. which aren't Atom.
Deltapage clearly mentioned it is Atom or Celeron.
board+1.6Cel+fan


How come chip is available, when it isn't for OEMs yet.

[paranj]

Atom is far better than Celeron even for the Eee PC.

[Count Dracula]

This thread hasn't been updated lately.Somebody should inform Choto Cheeta, and ask him to update this.

[mad1231moody]

My friend is planning to buy a PC within range of 23000/-. Now is it possible to get a C2D config with onboard graphics within this budget or shall he opt for some other config.
He wants to get the best config possible within this range. Please help. Choto where are you ?

[nish_higher]

sit it is a celeron processor.

its atom dude..check that board specs first.

[mad1231moody]

Any ideas guys ??

[paranj]

Intel C2D E2160
Intel DG31PR
2GB DDR2 667MHz Transcend RAM
160GB WD Raptor HDD
AOC 17" Monitor
Zebronics Lava
Logitecg Wired Optical kbd+mouse
Creative SBS 245
Lite-On LH-20A1H Optical Drive

:)

[mad1231moody]

Hey I said a C2D config not Dual core

[paranj]

Give 1.5k more and get C2D E4500:)

[mad1231moody]

Will the same mobo work with C2D E4500 ?
And he want to take a larger HDD, probably 250gigs or more. So anywhere where my friend can save money on

[paranj]

ya it will surely work! and i dont think he will save money as everything is real cheap and if u cut or buy a less-performing one than it will be bad. Please tell him to spend 1-2k more! hes spending 23k than y not 1-2k more? ;)

[bikdel]

^ Sonic is right. Do check the page again. Its not Atom its Celeron. There are many Low-End config. which aren't Atom.
Deltapage clearly mentioned it is Atom or Celeron.
board+1.6Cel+fan


How come chip is available, when it isn't for OEMs yet.

AFAIK Atom is a rebranded Celeron usins a new fabrication technique and core optimisation to reduce power usage... Thus gives upto 1.5x times more performance over conventional single core celerons @ same clock... I read it somewhere in Wikipedia.. Maybe under the article describing Intel Atom??

[janitha]

AFAIK Atom is a rebranded Celeron usins a new fabrication technique and core optimisation to reduce power usage... Thus gives upto 1.5x times more performance over conventional single core celerons @ same clock... I read it somewhere in Wikipedia.. Maybe under the article describing Intel Atom??

For more on Atom, see-

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-cpu,1947.html

[manishjha18]

hi -i have to buy a pc -my budget is around rs 28000- please do suggest a good config-

Biostar TP35D2-A7 4.5k /gigabyte g31( idont know about this)
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 5k
Mercury nVidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 3k
Seagate 7200.11 500GB ST3500320AS SATA II 4k
Lite-on / LG / ASUS IDE @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Zebronics Bijli ATX w/ bundled 400W SMPS 1.7k
L.G. 17" 700E 4.5k
Transcend 2X1GB DDR2 800MHz 2k
keyboard and mouse-logitech 700
ups local-1800
total =28500
this is what i have thought and please also tell me where to get this in pune at resonable price

[paranj]

hi -i have to buy a pc -my budget is around rs 28000- please do suggest a good config-

Biostar TP35D2-A7 4.5k /gigabyte g31( idont know about this)
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 5k
Mercury nVidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 3k
Seagate 7200.11 500GB ST3500320AS SATA II 4k
Lite-on / LG / ASUS IDE @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Zebronics Bijli ATX w/ bundled 400W SMPS 1.7k
L.G. 17" 700E 4.5k
Transcend 2X1GB DDR2 800MHz 2k
keyboard and mouse-logitech 700
ups local-1800
total =28500
this is what i have thought and please also tell me where to get this in pune at resonable price

Nice One . +1

[bikdel]

hi -i have to buy a pc -my budget is around rs 28000- please do suggest a good config-

Biostar TP35D2-A7 4.5k /gigabyte g31( idont know about this)
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 5k
Mercury nVidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 3k
Seagate 7200.11 500GB ST3500320AS SATA II 4k
Lite-on / LG / ASUS IDE @ Rs. 1300 /- + TAX
Zebronics Bijli ATX w/ bundled 400W SMPS 1.7k
L.G. 17" 700E 4.5k
Transcend 2X1GB DDR2 800MHz 2k
keyboard and mouse-logitech 700
ups local-1800
total =28500
this is what i have thought and please also tell me where to get this in pune at resonable price

go for e7200 @5.7 k, excellent vfm. Also if u can, then go for Abit IP35 mobo @ arnd 5.5k. Rest is good. And for dvd writer, go for Samsung SH 203-B model. Local UPS costs less though. And ur current PSU wont be gud i guess.

[mastermunj]

Nice Config manishjha..

I agree with bikdel's suggestion..

[manishjha18]

about Samsung SH 203-B model i aint sure- i have seen many times samsung dvd writer reading only samsung cds-if aint with this then please do tell me-moreover i dont need speed in case of dvd writers -i need reliability-some dvd drivers dont read dvds while others do with the same dvd0so please do suggest a dvd writer according to this.

about Abit IP35 mobo i aint sure as i wont overclock unless absolutely needed-so please suggest a mobo-and can i also go for
gigabyte 31-i dont want to stretch my budget unless i really get a steal-

[janitha]

about Samsung SH 203-B model i aint sure- i have seen many times samsung dvd writer reading only samsung cds-if aint with this then please do tell me-moreover i dont need speed in case of dvd writers -i need reliability-some dvd drivers dont read dvds while others do with the same dvd0so please do suggest a dvd writer according to this.

about Abit IP35 mobo i aint sure as i wont overclock unless absolutely needed-so please suggest a mobo-and can i also go for
gigabyte 31-i dont want to stretch my budget unless i really get a steal-
and yes thanks a lot to all the forum members-really u wont get a place where you get such discussions on hardware buying-just google and you will know know what i am saying.

Good quality (ref.-cdfreaks), reliable, cheap and no tray problem heard as of now. Using one for past several months.

[manishjha18]

hey among this motherboard which one is better is ascending order for the intel config
1 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
2 Abit I-N73HD (nvidia 630i chipset) for 4k
3 Biostar TP35D2-A7 4.5k
4 XFX 630i (7150) @ Rs. 3450 /- + TAX
5 XFX MG-630i-7109 3.9k
6 Galaxy 650i Ultra 4.7k

[keith_j_snyder2]

hey among this motherboard which one is better is ascending order for the intel config
1 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
2 Abit I-N73HD (nvidia 630i chipset) for 4k
3 Biostar TP35D2-A7 4.5k
4 XFX 630i (7150) @ Rs. 3450 /- + TAX
5 XFX MG-630i-7109 3.9k
6 Galaxy 650i Ultra 4.7k

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L > Biostar TP35D2-A7 > Galaxy 650i Ultra > Abit I-N73HD >XFX 630i (7150) > XFX MG-630i-7109.

BTW, How much is the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L?
Also add Abit IP35-E.

[johnjjx]

^^+1.
@manisjha get dis cnfig

E2160 2.6k
Abit ip35-e 5.4k
Gskill 2gb 2.4k
Mercury 86gt 3k
Cm460 smps+bijli 1.8k+1.5k
250gb hdd 2.1k
Kbd+mouse .7k
Sh203 b/d 1.1k
Aoc 17inch 7-8k getin e2160 n overclk at 3ghz or abv. Wil kik many procy. Also psu is vital

E2160 overclkd at abv 3ghz kicks every e4xxx. Zeby psu aint tht reliable.

If crt is fine get e7200 6k n wd640gb 4.5k.
Tht wilb n awesme cnfig:-)

[Psychosocial]

hmm.....i agree with johjix .

[manishjha18]

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L > Biostar TP35D2-A7 > Galaxy 650i Ultra > Abit I-N73HD >XFX 630i (7150) > XFX MG-630i-7109.

BTW, How much is the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L?
Also add Abit IP35-E.

ok if i add Abit IP35-E ,then how will you rank it- and i also dont know the price of Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L

[umarhant]

Product Model Price
CPU Intel E8400 08200
RAM Transcend 800Mhz 2Gb 01800
Motherboard Abit IP35 E 05400
Graphics Card Palit 9600 GSO 768Mb 07700
Cabinet el Cheapo 00700
SMPS CoolerMaster RS-500-PCAR 02200
Monitor LG L194WT 10000
Speakers Logitech X 540 04500
DVD RW Liteon 20X SATA 01400
************************************************** *********
This is what I shall buy in near future....... the prices mentioned are a guess....... shall buy from Computer Empire Nehru Place.........

[1]any wrong estimate of price please post it

[2] LG L194WT (http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/l194wt.jhtml) VS Dell SE198WFP (http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/monitor_se198wfp?c=in&cs=indhs1&l=en&s=dhs) Which one to buy.... same price but LG has Better Contrast Ratio

[3] Abit IP35E Vs MSI P35 Neo Combo (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/460/9) Msi has DDR3 Compatibility with same price

[4] Do I need to buy a dolby digital sound card to play DVD and DTS audio... Actually I listen to trance and want to get the dts and dolby difgital effects and I have SACD and DVD audio of all the trance I need to listen to.... These Files are mostly marked DTS... so Will AC3 filter be enough or I will have to buy a soundcard too

[manishjha18]

(here in pune i am nit able to buy abit mobo.now i want a mobo with inbuilt graphics card and will spend rest on lcd monitor.will upgrade to graphics card when 10.1 graphics card really becomes affordable.)
how is palit n73pv(geforce 7100,630I)-is it better than Intel dg33fb--------------
and geforce 7100 is better than 7050


and among artis s111 r 2.1 ,, Logitech R-20 2.1 and Creative SBS-370 2.1 which one is better---------------

[keith_j_snyder2]

ok if i add Abit IP35-E ,then how will you rank it- and i also dont know the price of Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L

I 'de rank A-Bit IP35-E 2nd to GA-P35-DS3L.
DS3L has more solid capacitors than IP35-E, but i m afraid that DS3L costs more than IP35-E and DS3L has some heating issues with Northbridge but people shows some serious results overclocking with DS3L, so u pick!

[johnjjx]

@umarhant nice cnfig. Get a audigy2zs or if higher budget asus xonar dx or auzentech prelude. U l luv em. If u listen music mainly get an mx5021 2.1. U dun need 5.1 fr tht.

[sagardani]

Hi folks.. I just have a query. I want a Intel procy temporarily which will outperform my current existing P4 2.4 Ghz under Rs.4000. So Dual Core will do? There are E2140, 2160 and 2180 which are 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 Ghz resp. And my P4 is 2.4 Ghz so will that make any difference? If I buy any one of these, can I OC it beyond or upto 2.4 Ghz? Please help...

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ Yes, there is a lot of difference between P4 and P-Dual core. If you can spend upto Rs.4k I'd suggest you go in for Core2Duo E4500. Mebbe a bit more, but surely worth it.

[Pathik]

Sagardani, which motherboard?

[manishjha18]

among palit n73pv (7100,630i) and asus p5n mx(7050 / nForce 610i) which one is better.

among this speaker which one is better
artis s111 r 2.1
logitech r-20 2.1
creative a300 2.1

[sagardani]

^^^ Yes, there is a lot of difference between P4 and P-Dual core. If you can spend upto Rs.4k I'd suggest you go in for Core2Duo E4500. Mebbe a bit more, but surely worth it.

Man no need of C2D if P-dual core outperforms P4 2.4Ghz. I want under 4k. Not even Rs.4000.25 so Pentium dual core will do I think. I just want to know which one of 2140, 2160 & 2180 I can OC beyond or upto 2.4 Ghz ?

Sagardani, which motherboard?

Msi P7n Sli Platinum. So what do u say abt procy buddy...?

[nish_higher]

get E2180
amazing OC'er.

[sagardani]

^^^^^
Ok thanks for reply :). How high it can be OCed ?

[infra_red_dude]

Man no need of C2D if P-dual core outperforms P4 2.4Ghz. I want under 4k. Not even Rs.4000.25 so Pentium dual core will do I think. I just want to know which one of 2140, 2160 & 2180 I can OC beyond or upto 2.4 Ghz ?



Msi P7n Sli Platinum. So what do u say abt procy buddy...?
The only reason why I recom. E4000 series proc. was coz of the higher cache. Even 1MB matters if you are into heavy processing. If its just overclocking that you are interested in then I'd recomm. E2180 or even E2160, tried and tested models.

[iMav]

Last time I wanted to upgrade the costs of the Quad Core were too high, don't know how much different is it now. Any help would be appreciated.

Requirements:

DX 10.1 Card
Motherboard
Processor
PSU

I am gonna buy Samsung monitor ~12k
Ram - 3GB (Cost?)
500 GB Sata II (No Seagate, WD maybe)

I don't want to exceed 25k for everything other than the monitor. Can stretch it by another 2k depending on what I am paying for.

[nish_higher]

Q6600 for 9.7k
Abit IP35 E for 5.2k
Cooler Master 46oW ,more than enough since mobo doesnt have an extra PCIE for crossfire.cost 1.9k
Ram- there's no 3 gb kit so u'll have to settle for kingstons/corsair value though i'd recommend getting a decent gskill pair.
Hdd- WD 640AAKS for 4200, 200bucks more than the 500gb one .
Graphics card- ? 10.1 cards no use since no game will be 10.1.so why not 9600gso?
Total - way above 25k.. :|

[gxsaurav]

Manan, for your needs

CPU - Core 2 Duo E8400 with Cooler Master Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-G33-DS3R (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2535&ProductName=GA-G33-DS3R) It is all U will ever need & it also saves electricity
GPU - Radeon HD 4850 or 3850
Hard disk - Depends on your requirement but look for Western Digital Green power 500 GB
RAM - Get 2 X 2 GB DDR2 800

This config isn't that good for overclocking though.
(http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2535&ProductName=GA-G33-DS3R)

[iMav]

Q6600 for 9.7k
Abit IP35 E for 5.2k
Cooler Master 46oW ,more than enough since mobo doesnt have an extra PCIE for crossfire.cost 1.9k
Ram- there's no 3 gb kit so u'll have to settle for kingstons/corsair value though i'd recommend getting a decent gskill pair.
Hdd- WD 640AAKS for 4200, 200bucks more than the 500gb one .
Graphics card- ? 10.1 cards no use since no game will be 10.1.so why not 9600gso?
Total - way above 25k.. :|
10.1 cause I don't want to feel depressed 4 months from now ;)

What is a gskill pair?
Manan, for your needs

CPU - Core 2 Duo E8400 with Cooler Master Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-G33-DS3R (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2535&ProductName=GA-G33-DS3R) It is all U will ever need & it also saves electricity
GPU - Radeon HD 4850 or 3850
Hard disk - Depends on your requirement but look for Western Digital Green power 500 GB
RAM - Get 2 X 2 GB DDR2 800

This config isn't that good for overclocking though.

Can someone tell me why is Abit mobos all of a sudden so much of rage?

@Gx: why not abit with your config. I think your config meets with mostof my requirements. Any more inputs guys?

[nish_higher]

^ he himself put a note in the last line..thats why that gigabyte board.
Q6600 without a good OC , or anything below Abit IP35 , will be a poor performer than any good C2D.even i'd suggest C2D if going for another board.
Gskill pair- Gskill rams , come in matched pair for 2*1gb , 4*1gb , 2*2gb pairs.
HDD- WD Green power had poor performance here and the price is high.i'd suggest 500GB AAKS or 640GB AAKS.

Direct X 10.1 - google for any compatible games/ etc.unless u r a developer , this aint worth anything.though if u get a card that suits ur budget , like gx pointed those 2 cards , go for it.

Btw u can go for palit p35a for 4.4k if not the abit one.its second best board in that range.

[iMav]

C2D overclocked any good?

I'm not so cure for which mobo to go for. Abit is all over the internet at the same time I have heard they heat up pretty fast & Gigabyte, any reviews?

To be honest this green thing in computers seems more of a gimmick than anything else so I am not too inclined towards it.

[gxsaurav]

Abit is all over the net only due to it's excellent overclocking capability. Since I do not recommend Overclocking, I advised for the Gigabyte motherboard. It does saves electricity so go for it.

Hard disk, well....depends on your size requirement. There are WD 32MB buffer based hard disks, if u can find those then go for it.

[nish_higher]

C2D overclocked any good?

I'm not so cure for which mobo to go for. Abit is all over the internet at the same time I have heard they heat up pretty fast & Gigabyte, any reviews?

To be honest this green thing in computers seems more of a gimmick than anything else so I am not too inclined towards it.
a full review here
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/ip35economy/

other P35 good boards - biostar TP35 D2A7 - has poor placement of ram slots which will