Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[j1n M@tt]

^^even if u get dat u will be getting an old stock......intel stopped this product almost 6 months ago. Get E4500 wich came instead of E4300 & E4400.......u will get E4500 at the price of old E4400.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Why ASUS 650i? Get something better like ur old one Ip-35 E.

[nish_higher]

which board is ASUS 650 i ? which model number?

[go4saket]

Why ASUS 650i? Get something better like ur old one Ip-35 E.

I need one with good onboard gfx... IP35E doesnt come with onboard gfx...

[j1n M@tt]

^^if u need gud onboard gfx then go for XFX 630i, it hav much better IGP than 650i

[sivarap]

^^ will someone tellme if it exists in the market? i am so sick calling on every damn computer shop in chennai and bangalore.... :(

[keith_j_snyder2]

which board is ASUS 650 i ? which model number?

P5N-E SLI

I need one with good onboard gfx... IP35E doesnt come with onboard gfx...

650i Chipset doesn't come with onboard display, its 630i which has onboard.

[dOm1naTOr]

650i SLI is much expensie than Ultra. GAlaxy 650i Ultra is for 4.5k~5k and is gud one.
add a 2.2k 8400GS. Its lot better than ny onboard gfx.

[ajayashish]

that is a awesome board... but drawback is no PCI-E 2.0 and no support for new processors..

[gxsaurav]

that is a awesome board... but drawback is no PCI-E 2.0 and no support for new processors..

Oh comon, u r still confused??? What will u do of PCIe 2.0????

What config have u finalised so far???

[dOm1naTOr]

but for 4.5k, its damn gud and nice vfm too.

[j1n M@tt]

^^but go4saket needs a mobo with on-board gfx man......

[keith_j_snyder2]

U can't even expect a PCI-E 2.0 in 4.5K price range!
Atleast not now!

^^but go4saket needs a mobo with on-board gfx man......

But the one with onboard display can't give performance better than non-onboard ones!

Besides those non-onboards have options for both, u can use a low end card and use it as an onboard like or a high end.

[j1n M@tt]

^^ I know......but he said he want dat kinda board

[upendra_gp]

if i get core 2 duo e8200+some mobo+9600GT+2GB RAM 667Mhz+500GB HDD etc will that perform good? what about crysis? will it playback HD videos in 1080P available on the net(i think u understand!)? and please tell me a good mobo for it if it is good mobo+proccy combo or shud i go for the higher model i.e. e8400 etc or the q6600? please reply fast!

[sagargv]

e8400 is good enough . .get abit ip35 e . .and go4 kingston 2x1 gb ddr2 800 mhz.

[Edburg]

i am goin to buy a basic system for surfing,movies and light gaming...

i am thinking on AMD 780G chipset and some X2 processor + 2 GB and 250 GB and DVD writer

but i dont know the prices of mobos with 780G ??? any info in this will be helpfull

[go4saket]

Hey Saurav. Please tell me the rates of the following parts in Kolkata...


XFX 630i Ultra
Intel C2D E4500
Kingston 2GB 800 Mhz
Seagate 160GB SATA2
LiteOn 20X Sata DVD-RW
Logitech Wireless Keyboard Mouse Combo
Wifi Card
Bluetooth Dongle
19" WS TFT (Please specify Make & Model also)

[upendra_gp]

e8400 is good enough . .get abit ip35 e . .and go4 kingston 2x1 gb ddr2 800 mhz.
i forgot to mention that i can't get abit boards at my place as they are unavailable.

[j1n M@tt]

^^ watz ur budget???

[sagargv]

then try xfx 650i ( although they're not in production any more , try asking ). . .

[j1n M@tt]

^^ u will get the Asus 650i........the P5N-E SLI, but its a bit costly (around 6k+). But the Galaxy 650i mobos r not so costly ( I think u will get it for 5k)

[sagargv]

i've heard of issues with p5ne sli .. better to go4 p5n32-e- SLI .. . .

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ yeah p5n32-e- SLI is better but expensive too!
Pick MSI P6N SLI same thing but cheaper than ASUS too!

[sagargv]

even a msi p35 neo combo or platinum should do..

[gxsaurav]

Hey, I want to buy Cooler Master Hyper L3 CPU cooler for my computer. You guys know the configuration already. How do I buy it? Please provide the full info.

[lambo]

Hey, I want to buy Cooler Master Hyper L3 CPU cooler for my computer. You guys know the configuration already. How do I but it? Please provide the full info.

Found it here: http://www.yantraonline.in/Product.asp?CatId=21

[keith_j_snyder2]

U can also buy it from www.lynx-india.com

Few of my friend has done some deal from him and so do i, i have seen this dude's shop, equipped with really cool stuff!

[sivarap]

I am asking this for the fifth time in hte past 3 days.......I am not able to get xfx630i in bangalore and chennai....please suggest a board....budget---same as xfx630i.......pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[j1n M@tt]

^^
Abit I-N73HD : 3.9k
Palit N73V : 2.6k

[upendra_gp]

thanks for the replies.my budget is 45k. i want a good 19 or17"lcd and lots of processing power so that i will not need to upgrade soon with a 5.1 system and somke 500GB HD.

[keith_j_snyder2]

^
ABit I-N73HD.
MSI P6N-GM.

[harryneopotter]

Hi Guys ... i need to assemble a PC for about 28 k ... the main use will be movies ... light gaming ..and CAD/CAM (after 2 years) .....
I have selected the following config :

19 " LCD ( which brand and model ?)
2 X 1 GB 667 - 1800/-
160 GB WD 2000/-
DVD RW Samsung 1150/-
Logitech Combo - 700 /-
Creative 2.1 - 1000 /-

So now 21350 Rs left in which i have to fit a LCD, MOBO+Processor, + Grfx card ..

i was thinking bout 780 based MOBO with AMD 4400 X2 .....
does this board have enuf horsepower in grfx department to run games like prostreet etc ?

Can u suggest any other config within 28 k for above mentioned purpose ?

[sivarap]

^^
Abit I-N73HD : 3.9k
Palit N73V : 2.6k

Even these are not available :(

[Edburg]

i am goin to buy a basic system for surfing,movies and light gaming...

i am thinking on AMD 780G chipset and some X2 processor + 2 GB and 250 GB and DVD writer

but i dont know the prices of mobos with 780G ??? any info in this will be helpfull

someone reply please.......its urgent

[samurai3]

Intel DP35DP based on P35 mobo is good or bad.......I have selected this board... is my selection ok or i need change my selection.....pls help me soonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

where to get DDR3 RAM prices ??
i saw a thread that DDR3 is going to get as cheap as DDR2 !! is it ??

[gxsaurav]

U can also buy it from www.lynx-india.com (http://www.lynx-india.com)

Few of my friend has done some deal from him and so do i, i have seen this dude's shop, equipped with really cool stuff!

This is a real shop in Chandigarh right? Hmm...any idea about bangalore?

I have a friend in chandigarh & I can tell him to buy & send me to Lucknow, but first I would prefer checking in Bangalore, if it is available there then I m buying from Bangalore.

[keith_j_snyder2]

^U go do that! And it is always wise to buy stuff from ur own city, u know warranty issues!

But in any case if u don't find anything then feel free to buy anything from www.lynx-india.com

Even these are not available :(

Can u tell me what brand is available? And we will find the proper model to fit into that!

Intel DP35DP based on P35 mobo is good or bad.......I have selected this board... is my selection ok or i need change my selection.....pls help me soonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Get A-bit IP35-E if it is cheaper than the INTEL original at ur place. It's also P-35 based and trust me way better than INTEL original!

where to get DDR3 RAM prices ??
i saw a thread that DDR3 is going to get as cheap as DDR2 !! is it ??

Love to see that thread!

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

Love to see that thread!

Here Check this out, DDR3 to Get As Cheap as DDR2 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=768547)

[janitha]

where to get DDR3 RAM prices ??
i saw a thread that DDR3 is going to get as cheap as DDR2 !! is it ??

Ready to pay Rs. 22,880.00 for 2X1GB? Then, Prime.
http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=12&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

It will definitely get cheap but I think slowly.

[monkey]

Ready to pay Rs. 22,880.00 for 2X1GB? Then, Prime.
http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=12&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

It will definitely get cheap but I think slowly.

Prices here are much cheaper: http://www.yantraonline.in/Product.asp?SubCatId=60

These prices are now comparable to what Corsair DDR2 8500 Dominator used to cost 6 months back. So we can forecast what prices to expect from DDR3 in the next 6 months.

[sagargv]

hello,
my friend wants to buy a laptop . budget 35-40k . max 42k

he was intending to buy this :

http://www.mediafire.com/?4oxx5mzxacv

suggestions ?
he doesnt intend to do much gaming on his lappy. . he's a engineering student .
thanks

[sagargv]

come on guys .. help ..

[monkey]

hello,
my friend wants to buy a laptop . budget 35-40k . max 42k

he was intending to buy this :

http://www.mediafire.com/?4oxx5mzxacv

suggestions ?
he doesnt intend to do much gaming on his lappy. . he's a engineering student .
thanks

If not into gaming then the config is very gud. I would only suggest to go for 9-cell battery (if the budget allows) as bigger battery is always a better option.

[sagargv]

could you suggest a 9 cell lappy in his budget ?

[gxsaurav]

Have a look at 14." based HP TZ series laptop, they are available for 55K & are convertible tablet PCs.

[sagargv]

way out of budget gx . .i'll ask him . .but he said max of 42k

[keith_j_snyder2]

9 cell is battery which u can change afterwards any time. They change it from 6 cell to 9 cell or 14 cell battery and will charge more for it.

[sagargv]

ok .thanks . can i give him thumbs up for the dell lappy that he wanted to buy ?

[upendra_gp]

hi! i am back with a good news. pc wallah said that he can get 1 Abit IP35E for me:grin:!here are my questions:-
1.which proccesor should i buy/
prices 8200-9.9k,8400-12k and q6600-12.5k.
(i am thinking of q6600. please give me your opinions about it.)
2.is Samsung 19" Myst LCD good?
3.i get 512mb 9600gt for 13.5k and 256mb 880gt for 14k. which one 2 go for?

[sagargv]

^^ all the products u mentioned are over priced. . 8200 is around 8k . 9600GT is at 10k while 8800GT 512mb is at 13.5k .i wud prefer a e8400 over q6600 . but if u're work involves 3ds max etc.. q6600 may be better.

[upendra_gp]

but won't q6600 be more future proof?

[dOm1naTOr]

its future proof only on paper.
When it comes to real world, 8400 is way too gud. It can be oced to 4hz nd upwards nd performs much higher than Q6600 when at 4~4.5 Ghz. And it generates much less heat. Quad cores will be better than a much higher clocked dual core only in case of highly optimised and processor heavy tasks which dun depend on core clock. :)

I might say E8400 has brighter future than Q6600:D

[janitha]

@upendra_gp

Here is a discussion on e8400 vs q6600
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2157333

[harryneopotter]

Hi Guys ... i need to assemble a PC for about 28 k ... the main use will be movies ... light gaming ..and CAD/CAM (after 2 years) .....
I have selected the following config :

19 " LCD ( which brand and model ?)
2 X 1 GB 667 - 1800/-
160 GB WD 2000/-
DVD RW Samsung 1150/-
Logitech Combo - 700 /-
Creative 2.1 - 1000 /-

So now 21350 Rs left in which i have to fit a LCD, MOBO+Processor, + Grfx card ..

i was thinking bout 780 based MOBO with AMD 4400 X2 .....
does this board have enuf horsepower in grfx department to run games like prostreet etc ?

Can u suggest any other config within 28 k for above mentioned purpose ?

Guyz ... plz help me ... and plz suggest a gud 19" LCD for minimum price ....

[channabasanna]

Hi All,

I have one doubt. Does ASUS Maximus Formula motherboard support 32 bit OS.

Also please do tell me whether to buy A-Bit IX38 Quad GT or ASUS Maximus Formula motherboards. I am planning to buy the ASUS Maximus Formula board.

Also can i get to know the cost of ASUS board in Bangalore.

[Edburg]

guys can u tell me which one will be better ?

Athlon X2 4000+ and Asus M2n-MX
C2D E2160 + XFX 630i ultra

also at prices is the 780G chipset based mobos at ?
will a 690G chipset instead of m2n-mx justify the price increase ?

please reply soon as i am goin to buy tomo

[dOm1naTOr]

The E 2160 seems better but it surelly costs more.
4000+ and M2N MX: 2.3k+2.3k=4.6k
E2160+XFX 630i U: 2.6k+3.2k=5.8k
Gigabyte 780G and X2 4000+ : 4.6k+2.3k=6.9k

The 780G mobo has PCIE 2.0 and supports Phenoms with AM2+ socket and also supports DDR2 1066 modules in dual channel. Its backward compatible with older AM2 X2s. And it has the best IGP ever nd is DX 10.0 supported. Its IGP performs even better than 7300GS.
So the IGP of 630i[7150] or 690G[X1250] has no chance.

U can get the 780G mobo with a low end proccy like 4000+ and later get a better proccy, when phenoms price gets to bottom. Even now the phenom has hit 7k mark. And get some ATI's HD 3xxx card to get some added boost in 3D rendering performance.
even the 2.2k HD 3450 is neck to neck with 8500GT when used in 780G.

[upendra_gp]

Thanks for all the suggestions to everyone who replied!i am getting E8400 and Abit IP35E motherboard. now please answer question 2 and question 3.

[dOm1naTOr]

which brand of 960GT did ur dealer quote the price for? It its some custonm cooler nd factory oc then 13.5k is ok. Otherwise its way too costly. Its really less than 10k for most of the brands with reference cooler nd clocks.

[keith_j_snyder2]

hi! i am back with a good news. pc wallah said that he can get 1 Abit IP35E for me:grin:!here are my questions:-
1.which proccesor should i buy/
prices 8200-9.9k,8400-12k and q6600-12.5k.
(i am thinking of q6600. please give me your opinions about it.)
2.is Samsung 19" Myst LCD good?
3.i get 512mb 9600gt for 13.5k and 256mb 880gt for 14k. which one 2 go for?


Find another dealer!
He is overcharging everything!
E8400 = 8700/-
Q6600 = 10400/-

Samsung Myst LCD are one of the best looking LCD's in the market but we will be able to give u more info if u can post any model no. or info on LCD.

MSI 9600 GT = 9500/-
MSI 512MB 8800GT OC = 12000/-
For 14K u can get 512MB 8800 GTS!!!

[BULLZI]

Hi All,

I have one doubt. Does ASUS Maximus Formula motherboard support 32 bit OS.

Also please do tell me whether to buy A-Bit IX38 Quad GT or ASUS Maximus Formula motherboards. I am planning to buy the ASUS Maximus Formula board.

Also can i get to know the cost of ASUS board in Bangalore.

I am using Asus Maximus Formula mobo. Its a really good one. I am not getting enuff time to watch out for the board's ocing potential but I will surely do that this weekend.

And yes, the board does support 32 bit OS. I am using XP SP2 32 bit.

[sagargv]

Find another dealer!
He is overcharging everything!
E8400 = 8700/-
Q6600 = 10400/-

Samsung Myst LCD are one of the best looking LCD's in the market but we will be able to give u more info if u can post any model no. or info on LCD.

MSI 9600 GT = 9500/-
MSI 512MB 8800GT OC = 12000/-
For 14K u can get 512MB 8800 GTS!!!
WOW , the 8800GTS has a gr8 cooler . its really tempting ..

[upendra_gp]

Find another dealer!
He is overcharging everything!
E8400 = 8700/-
Q6600 = 10400/-

Samsung Myst LCD are one of the best looking LCD's in the market but we will be able to give u more info if u can post any model no. or info on LCD.

MSI 9600 GT = 9500/-
MSI 512MB 8800GT OC = 12000/-
For 14K u can get 512MB 8800 GTS!!!
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
how is it possible? i will check the prices at another dealer. and Myst 19" is the model that I am looking for. If u have any other lcd suggestion please go on. Thanks for opening my eyes or I wud have ended up paying lots of extra money!

[sivarap]

owing to cost constraints i am (rather my dad is) thinkin of buying

mercury PNMCP73V (GeForce 7050/610i )-- 2.2k in chennai

I could at finally spot XFX 630i MB but it costs 4.2k here.... :(

. Please let me know if there is any "problem" with this board.

[janitha]

owing to cost constraints i am (rather my dad is) thinkin of buying

mercury PNMCP73V (GeForce 7050/610i )-- 2.2k in chennai

I could at finally spot XFX 630i MB but it costs 4.2k here.... :(

. Please let me know if there is any "problem" with this board.

You may buy if you are sure about RMA support. Just that it is not as reliable/durable, compared to well known brands.

[sivarap]

You may buy if you are sure about RMA support. Just that it is not as reliable/durable, compared to well known brands.
I thought mercury is quite a wel known brand

[keith_j_snyder2]

WOW , the 8800GTS has a gr8 cooler . its really tempting ..

Yes it has a dual slot cooler whereas 8800GT has single slot.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
how is it possible? i will check the prices at another dealer. and Myst 19" is the model that I am looking for. If u have any other lcd suggestion please go on. Thanks for opening my eyes or I wud have ended up paying lots of extra money!

I liked these SAMSUNG 931BW & 932BW.
They are priced near about 10500/-
I 've found them more appealing!

[hellgate]

owing to cost constraints i am (rather my dad is) thinkin of buying

mercury PNMCP73V (GeForce 7050/610i )-- 2.2k in chennai

I could at finally spot XFX 630i MB but it costs 4.2k here.... :(

. Please let me know if there is any "problem" with this board.

dont go for the Mercury mobo,better get urself a Biostar for the same price or even a Gigabyte 945GMA-S2C whihc also costs the same.
i've tested all these 3 mobos and the Mercury one just suxs.

[BULLZI]

Hi guyz,

Please suggest me a decent ups for my system that can provide at least 1/2 hour backup along with its price and availability.
System :
Quad Core Proccy ( On aftermarket cooler)
Asus X38 mobo
HD 3870X2
4 GB ram
1 DVD rom and one writer
2-4 HDDs
Corsair 620 watt


Please recommend one soon as due to voltage fluctuation issues, I didnt dare to plug in my new gfx card. I will go to market this weekend. Hence, please suggest a good one.

Also I wish to buy a tv tuner card. Which one is good?

Thanks.

[monkey]

APC Back-UPS RS1200. Should be available with Rashi for around 5k.

[BULLZI]

How much volt is it?? Anylink if u can provide?

[monkey]

RS1200 is not there on the APC website but RS1100 is there: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1100CI%2DIN&total_watts=200

I myself have been using RS1000 for the past 3 years with no problem. I get 25 min of backup time with my config (as in my signature).

[digitraju]

Finally, I have decided to build a new system instead of component upgrade. I will keep my Samsung CRT 21" monitor. I want specific advice on components. I do not want to use two graphics cards, although budget is not a problem. It is going to be Intel based system. I do not intend to overclock any component or use fancy cooling system. WinXP is my OS.

My requirements are-

1. Playing latest games at 1600x1200 with all eye-candy turned on.
2. Extensive work in Photoshop
3. Some video editing


A. Processor - I now have E-6300@1.86. How much performance gain can be expected from E8200, E8400, Q6600, Q7600. What are currents prices.

B. Motherboard - a really good stable one with single graphics slot an at least three PCI slots. (I may buy double graphics slot motherboard if prices are nearly similar.)

C. Graphics card - XFX 8800GT Alfa Dog Edition 512 MB. Will it suffice? What are options?

D. RAM - DDR2 it will be. But 667 or 800MHz? Price Vs performance? Also it should be supported by the motherboard.

So, please help in deciding. Current prices too, if possible.

Thanks

[BULLZI]

^^ Please post your budget so that we can decide core components for your new rig :).

[sagargv]

graphics card - get 8800GTS 512mb . it has a much better cooler.

[iChaitanya]

I need to buy a new PC within Rs. 55,000. I need all the peripherals except the hard disk.
I have a pack piece Seagate 250GB SATA HDD that I’ll be using in this new PC. So I don’t need a new HDD.

Please suggest processor, motherboard, RAM, DVD writer, cabinet, LCD, PSU, GPU, 5.1 channel speakers and a keyboard-mouse combo.

*Processor: Intel C2D/C2Q?
*Motherboard: Abit/ASUS? (Preferably ASUS)
*RAM: Transcend/Kingston? (It must be 2GB DDR2 800Mhz)
*DVD Writer: LiteOn/Sony? (Preferably LiteOn)
*Cabinet: ?
*LCD: Samsung/ViewSonic? (Response time must be <5ms. 19” will also do.)
*PSU?
*GPU: XFX 9600GT?
*Speakers: Creative/Logitech?
*Keyboard-Mouse combo: Logitech.

Please provide the company name and model number wherever applicable. Also provide me with the prices.

I’ll be using this PC mainly for multi-tasking, surfing the internet, watching movies. This PC will be used rarely for gaming. So I don’t need a high-end GPU but it should be capable of handling all the eye-candy in Vista and occasionally playing some games. It will be great if it's possible to make this PC future-proof.

Please do reply.. :)

[rahulmig]

Processor: Intel C2D 8400 : 9000/-
*Motherboard: Abit/ASUS? ABIT IP35 - 9000/-
*RAM: Ballastix RAM 2 GB 800 Mhz : 3500/-( i have it SEAL PACK in Stock )
*DVD Writer: SOny SATA : 1400-1600
*Cabinet:Elite 330 Black ( coolent master ) : 2200/-
*LCD: Dell SE198WFP 19 :11000/-
*PSU : Coolent Master 600 W - Rs 3650 /-
*GPU: e-GeForce 9600 GT KO 512MB : Rs 11500 ( company :eVga ) (http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=512-P3-N865-AR)
*Speakers: Creative/Logitech : Creative : 1500
*Keyboard-Mouse combo:Microsoft Wirless : 1250.

[iChaitanya]

Processor: Intel C2D 8400 : 9000/-
*Motherboard: Abit/ASUS? ABIT IP35 - 9000/-
*RAM: Ballastix RAM 2 GB 800 Mhz : 3500/-( i have it SEAL PACK in Stock )
*DVD Writer: SOny SATA : 1400-1600
*Cabinet:Elite 330 Black ( coolent master ) : 2200/-
*LCD: Dell SE198WFP 19 :11000/-
*PSU : Coolent Master 600 W - Rs 3650 /-
*GPU: e-GeForce 9600 GT KO 512MB : Rs 11500 ( company :eVga ) (http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=512-P3-N865-AR)
*Speakers: Creative/Logitech : Creative : 1500
*Keyboard-Mouse combo:Microsoft Wirless : 1250.

hey thanks for replying... now i really don't know about these Abit motherboards (I am a newbie in this stuff). Is Abit reliable?

Also can you suggest me a motherboard from ASUS?

[sagargv]

yup .abit has been around for quite sometime. . it had some bumps on its road .. but now its pretty good. .

[digitraju]

My requirements are-

1. Playing latest games at 1600x1200 with all eye-candy turned on.
2. Extensive work in Photoshop
3. Some video editing

A. Processor - I now have E-6300@1.86. How much performance gain can be expected from E8200, E8400, Q6600, Q7600. What are currents prices.

B. Motherboard - a really good stable one with single graphics slot an at least three PCI slots. (I may buy double graphics slot motherboard if prices are nearly similar.)

C. Graphics card - XFX 8800GT Alfa Dog Edition 512 MB. Will it suffice? What are options?

D. RAM - DDR2 it will be. But 667 or 800MHz? Price Vs performance? Also it should be supported by the motherboard.



Please answer.

Processor - I live in Nagpur and my dealer here says E8400 is not available. He can give me E8200 at Rs.8300/-. If I wait for E8400, it will be available at Rs.8700/-. Are the prices okay?

Motherboard - dealer suggests Asus P5KC @ Rs.8700/- Is it a good board compared with ABit IP-35-E ? Will it bottleneck the CPU (8200/8400)

Graphics - XFX 8800GT XXX 512 MB @ Rs. 14750/- and Nvdia GF 8800GT 1 GB @ 16000/- What will be price of 8800GTS (which brand?) Which one to choose?

RAM- considering that the cpu (E8200/8400) and motherboard both have FSB 1333, should the RAM be 667 or 800? Xeon and Kingston are available. Which one should I choose?

Power Supply - VIP 400 watt golden @ Rs. 2450/- is available here. Anything better but not too costly?

Digtraju

[rahulmig]

Hi.

Processor : E8400 -8700 /-
Motherboard : ABIT IP35 pro : 9000 /- ( Good Board ) Remember IP 35 -E is Cheaper @ 5408 /-

Graphics Card : EVGA 9600 GT 512 MB : 12000 /- ( contact me if u need 1 )
RAM : Ballastix 2 GB RAM 800 MHZ ( 3500/- )

PSU : Coolent master : 3650 /-

Processor : E8200 /E8400 / E8500 is Avialble with me ..if any 1 needs let me know !!

[digitraju]

Where are u located rahulmig (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=40371)?

[axxo]

I have a 1x2gb 800mhz transcend RAM(single channel)....as of now I can spend few more on ram upgrade.
Will i get performance boost over existing system if I upgrade with 2x2gb in dual channel...am not into gaming....also expecting atleast 50% increase in performance otherwise i wont go for it
above is recommended or not?

[dOm1naTOr]

@axxo (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=30663)
what kinda performance boost are u expecting???
2Gb is enuf for almost all windows nd lighter apps. And only few games and heavy apps needs 4GB memory.
nyways ull get a small boost in performace after setting in dual channel.
In games to feel difference b/w 2GB nd 4GB, u need atleast an 8800GT nd a decent proccy.

[axxo]

^ thanks...that clarified my doubt

[rahulmig]

@ digitraju (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=39670)

Mumbai

@aXXo
I have 2 gb Ballastic Ram 800 Mhz .. Seal Pack intertested in buying @ 3500/-

[axxo]

@aXXo
I have 2 gb Ballastic Ram 800 Mhz .. Seal Pack intertested in buying @ 3500/-

nope..going with the words of dominator..decided not to get additional RAM module atleast for now....dont have high end cpu nor graphic card..

[janitha]

@axxo (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=30663)
what kinda performance boost are u expecting???
2Gb is enuf for almost all windows nd lighter apps. And only few games and heavy apps needs 4GB memory.
nyways ull get a small boost in performace after setting in dual channel.
In games to feel difference b/w 2GB nd 4GB, u need atleast an 8800GT nd a decent proccy.

Wont he need 64 bit OS also, to utilize full 4GB?

[DigitalDude]

Wont he need 64 bit OS also, to utilize full 4GB?
Vista SP1 is recognising full 4 gb but I dunno whether it can utilise all of it :D



_

[priyadarshi]

hi all!
plz suggest me proc and ram for my intel dg965ry. this board supports upto 2.66ghz E6700 processor.
http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg965ry
and 8gb of ram at DDR2 667 or DDR2 533 and 4gb at DDR2 800
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dg965ry/sb/CS-026602.htm
which one will perform better. 8gb with 667mhz or 4gb with 800mhz.

hi all!
plz suggest me proc and ram for my intel dg965ry. this board supports upto 2.66ghz E6700 processor.
http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg965ry

and 8gb of ram at DDR2 667 or DDR2 533 and 4gb at DDR2 800
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dg965ry/sb/CS-026602.htm

which one will perform better. 8gb with 667mhz or 4gb with 800mhz.
and also plz suggest me a good psu budget upto Rs.3000 and UPS budget upto Rs.4000 for this config.
LG 17" Normal CRT
Intel 2.66ghz E6700 (currently using E2140)
Intel DG965RY
Transcend RAM - yet to be decided (either 8gb with 667mhz or 4gb with 800mhz)
Seagate 500GB SATA 7200RPM
Seagate 250GB SATA 7200RPM
Seagate 80GB SATA 7200RPM (XP and Linux Installed)
Sony DVD RW SATA
Sony DVD RW PATA
Samsung 40GB PATA
UPS currently in use APC 500VA
thanks in advance

[axxo]

actually my E2160 which was supposed to run @ 1.8 ghz now running @3.2ghz(357x9)...dd2 800mhz ram running @714ghz..
what does this indicate..my ram is underclocked? what concept plz explain anyone

[keith_j_snyder2]

^ it means u have overclocked your processor.

[rahulmig]

@ priyadarshi (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=4842)

Go for 4gb RAM 800 Mhz ( dont GO for Transend RAM )
Go for Balastix or Corsair Ram

PSU : 600W Coolent master 3650 Or Buy 4 Months Old Same unused PSU( frm Me ) 3300/-

UPS : VA650 or 600.. name is something like that tht is in ur Budget ¬ 4000

[digitraju]

Question:

If processor E8400 and motherboard Asus P5KC both run at 1333 FSB, what should be memory speed? 667 or 800MHz?

[channabasanna]

I am using Asus Maximus Formula mobo. Its a really good one. I am not getting enuff time to watch out for the board's ocing potential but I will surely do that this weekend.

And yes, the board does support 32 bit OS. I am using XP SP2 32 bit.

Can i know how much of RAM are you using with the mobo and OS.

I am planning to get 2 2GB 800MHz RAM for my 32 bit XP SP2.

Also do tell me the cost of Maximus Formula board. How much did it cost you.

[BULLZI]

I am using 2 GB rite now. But will add another 2 GB soon when I install Vista.

32 bit OS can only detect upto 3 gb ram. Hence, dont go for 4 GB ram if u r using 32 bit XP SP2.

[digitraju]

Asus P5KC has ATI's CrossFire technology built-in. Does this mean I can use only ATI graphics cards to build a double card system, and not nVdia?

[BULLZI]

^^
Yes it exactly means what you have said.

[ajayashish]

U can use nvidia card in that... but cannot use 2 nvidia in once... for 2 cards u need to use ATI...

2 ATI = Crossfire
2 SLI = SLI

u can use one card of any one either NVidia or ATI in any of the chipset

[channabasanna]

I am using 2 GB rite now. But will add another 2 GB soon when I install Vista.

32 bit OS can only detect upto 3 gb ram. Hence, dont go for 4 GB ram if u r using 32 bit XP SP2.

Can you tell me the motherboard cost.
But does XP SP2 32 bit support the RAM's installed upto 4GB. Later i can update to vista.

I mean i have read in the net many say it shows 3GB if 4GB of RAM is there, because the Graphics Card take the 1GB memory......

I mean to say will it work if i have 2 2GB RAM installed in the motherboard. Even though it supports 3GB.

Please do tell me the cost of ASUS Maximus Formula motherboard.

[BULLZI]

I got mobo from newegg.com @ 13K. Dont know price here in India. According to www.theitwares.com (http://www.theitwares.com) the price is 15K+.

And you can use 4 GB ram in 32 bit OS but the OS will not detect extra 1 GB. Your machine will work well n good. Later u update to Vista.
:).

[channabasanna]

I got mobo from newegg.com @ 13K. Dont know price here in India. According to www.theitwares.com (http://www.theitwares.com) the price is 15K+.

And you can use 4 GB ram in 32 bit OS but the OS will not detect extra 1 GB. Your machine will work well n good. Later u update to Vista.
:).

Thanks for the info. Then i will get 2 2GB 800MHz Kingston RAM's along with the motherboard.

[ajayashish]

u say windows will not use 4 gb complete... what abt the softwares like MAX and MAYA will it use the full ram

[BULLZI]

^^ I have no idea abt it. I havent used MAX and MAYA and cant say. Ask gx_saurav about it :).

[digitraju]

thanks Bullzi, can you suggest a good board preferably Asus, with P35 chipset and LG775 socket that is capable of SLI? I have now decided to go ahead with a full fledged gaming rig.

How about using two Asus nVdia 8800GTS 512 MB cards?

[BULLZI]

^^ U got the thing wrong mate.

Intel P35, X38, X48, P965 these chipsets dont support SLI, they support Crossfire. U will need Nvidia chipsets for SLI for example 680i SLI, 650i SLI, 780i SLI, 750i SLI, 790i SLi etc, etc. So u need to buy any motherboard that has Nvidia chipset for adding two Nvidia gfx cards in SLI
:)

[digitraju]

Thanks again,

then perhaps you can suggest a good pair of ATI graphics cards to go with Asus P5KC mobo?

[BULLZI]

What is your budget? Please mention it so that we can help you accordingly :)

[digitraju]

I am buying E8400 processor and 4 GB RAM. Apart from that, I can spend up to 30K on motherboard and graphics cards.

I have two options now. 1. Go with Asus P5KC mobo and look for two ATI cards. 2. Opt for two GeForce 8800GTS 512 MB cards and get a mobo that will allow me to SLI.

So please suggest.

[ajayashish]

^^^ waiting for a reply to this as well

[BULLZI]

Most games are optimized for Nvidia gfx cards. Hence, u can opt for SLI instead of Crossfire if your pure intension is gaming.
I doubt if u can get dual 8800GTSs 512 MB + SLI mobo in 30 K range(Single 8800GTS costs abt 18K+). U can get dual 8800GTs from MSI @ 25K. But then also no headroom for decent SLI mobo.
Otherwise , better to get dual 9600GTs in SLI that has better performance than 8800GT SLI @ 21K.
Motherboard - get EVGA 680i/780i SLI but in that case u hv to extend ur budget to 33.

For crossfire u can get dual HD3850s @ 20K.

[ajayashish]

^^^ i will be buying a single 8800GTS MSI 512MB... and MSI P7N Platinum... is there any better option which has/ or no SLI Support as well as supports the new CPU coming up soon

[digitraju]

Thanks Bulzi,

for now I shall go for a good SLI mobo and single 8800GTS 512MB. I can add another similar card later, can't I? So I will prefer a really good Asus mobo. Anything in mind?

A question. NVdia SLI chipsets, are they as good as P35 chipset in performance? I also do extensive photoshoping and some video editing.

[BULLZI]

@ajayashish
If u dont want SLI mobo, Intel X38/P35 chipset is the way to go. They are lot better in performance than 680i/780i chipset.
Asus P5KC is a really good motherboard i.e. P35 chipset.
Asus Maximus Formula is also really good one i.e. X38 chipset.
Dunno even X48 chipset is out in the market or not.

@digitraju

P35/X38 chipset is lot better than Nvidia 780i chipset. Nvidia 790i chipset is paper launched and it can outperform P35/X38 but then again X48 chipset is about to hit the market.
So the battle goes on and on and on......
:)
U get EVGA 780i SLI motherboard. EVGA is GOD in the world of computer components. They have really gr8 products.

[channabasanna]

Is there any motherboard which supports, SLI and has PCI-E v2.0, DDR2 within 15-16k INR. Because i do use it mainly for Gaming purpose, also for my brothers autocad and 3ds max.

[ajayashish]

@ajayashish
If u dont want SLI mobo, Intel X38/P35 chipset is the way to go. They are lot better in performance than 680i/780i chipset.
Asus P5KC is a really good motherboard i.e. P35 chipset.
Asus Maximus Formula is also really good one i.e. X38 chipset.
Dunno even X48 chipset is out in the market or not.

@digitraju

P35/X38 chipset is lot better than Nvidia 780i chipset. Nvidia 790i chipset is paper launched and it can outperform P35/X38 but then again X48 chipset is about to hit the market.
So the battle goes on and on and on......
:)
U get EVGA 780i SLI motherboard. EVGA is GOD in the world of computer components. They have really gr8 products.

I need a SLI Board for future upgrade

[iChaitanya]

Asus P5KC is a really good motherboard i.e. P35 chipset

Hey thanks for the information. Yes, i liked the P5KC.
Can you please suggest me any other motherboard from ASUS which uses the P35 chipset? I am looking for a motherboard for about 10k.. :)

What about the P5K SE, P5KR? Any idea about their prices?

[sagargv]

I need a SLI Board for future upgrade

not a very good option IMHO . . its better to buy a new single card than buying another old card. . if u wanna go SLI , do it right now. . or change that single card later as new cards keep coming in 6 months. .

[axxo]

actually my E2160 which was supposed to run @ 1.8 ghz now running @3.2ghz(357x9)...dd2 800mhz ram running @714mhz..
what does this indicate..my ram is underclocked? what concept plz explain anyone

^ it means u have overclocked your processor.

how come..its only 714 which is less by 86 mhz the original..not right??

[ajayashish]

not a very good option IMHO . . its better to buy a new single card than buying another old card. . if u wanna go SLI , do it right now. . or change that single card later as new cards keep coming in 6 months. .

then which board to go for a single card and which single card...

and which board for SLI and which 2 graphic card.

[raviramgopal]

hi,
i am planning to buy a new system,following is config
intel e8400
wd 250gb hdd
kingston 2gb 800mhz
cooler master elite 330+psu 450w
MSI p35 neo
nvidia geforce 9600gt

i wanted to go for either a gigabyte or asus motherboard in the same range.which one do i go for.thanks in advance

[sagargv]

then which board to go for a single card and which single card...

and which board for SLI and which 2 graphic card.


single card : either 8800GTS or radeon 3870x2 .board , u have asus striker 2 formula . or abit ip35 pro . or abit x38 quad gt . . .

SLI : 9600GT SLI scales very well . but if u got money to burn 8800GTS SLI . mobo , u're restricted to 790i SLI .

[ajayashish]

single card : either 8800GTS or radeon 3870x2 .board , u have asus striker 2 formula . or abit ip35 pro . or abit x38 quad gt . . .

SLI : 9600GT SLI scales very well . but if u got money to burn 8800GTS SLI . mobo , u're restricted to 790i SLI .

thanks... thn i will be interested in 8800gts single card with either IX38 quadGT or MSI P7N Plantinum...

[sagargv]

the only reason i'm against SLI is because new cards keep coming out. rumours are now spreading that nvidia will release GT200 top end cards to replace 9800GX2 and GTX .. .heard they may be named 9900GTX and 9900GT. .now its better to change the card in 4-5 months when these newer cards come as a single newer and top end card nearly always outperforms 2 old cards in SLI .. this new card ( quadroplex has a thread in technology section ) is expected to outperform 9800GX2 easily. .

regarding the choice of mobo , u have a wider choice if u choose to opt out of SLI . consult darklord and BULLZI who are experts in the area of high end mobo's and OCing

[ajayashish]

Darklord asked me for Abit IX38 QuadGT and ATI 3870X2... but i am not sure if that will be fine when i run 3D Max and Maya... as i have heard that it create problem while running these softwares.. .

[sagargv]

then u cud go with a single 8800GTS if that wont cause problems .. then get urself a top of the line card a few months later.

[nish_higher]

Darklord asked me for Abit IX38 QuadGT and ATI 3870X2... but i am not sure if that will be fine when i run 3D Max and Maya... as i have heard that it create problem while running these softwares.. .
maybe, u will get an answer to this on cgsociety
i think someone would be using the same for 3d work.

[upendra_gp]

Sorry for being so much late.my exams are going on.I visited another computer shop. got some little humanly prices:) !
Abit IP35E-6400
E8400-9000
2X1GB 667Mhz Ram-2100
320GB WD HDD-3200
Acer 19" LCD-9000
LG 20X DVD Writer-1200
Logitech keyboard+mouse-750
cabinet with 480W SMPS-1400
8800GT XFX 512MB-13800 :p
9600GT 512MB XFX-11500:mad:
so what shud i go for i.e. graphics card?
also please tell me a good 2.1 speakers set in Rs.1700.

[GeekyBoy]

My friend needs a new PC within Rs 30k, and I have suggested him the following
HDD : 160 GB Western Digital SATA(Rs 2000)
Monitor: Samsung 794 MG 17" CRT(Rs 4200)
Mouse & Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech Combo(Rs 700)
Cabinet:Frontech cabinet with SMPS(Rs 1300)
Optical Drive: Liteon DVD RW 20A1P(Rs 1300)
Floppy Drive: Sony(Rs 300)
Motherboard: Intel DG965RY(Rs 4500)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E4500(Rs 4700)
Graphics Card: XFX GeForce 8400GS(Rs 2200)
Speaker: Altec Lansing ATP-3(Rs 2500)
Printer- (Don't Know, please suggest!)(Rs 2000)
UPS- APC 500VA (Rs 2000)
Total Rs 27700


Is this configuration good or is there something better in 30k ?
Also please suggest me a printer for him in 2k.
Also when you suggest something, please mention the price.(It should be intel)

[sagardani]

Which is the cheapest LCD monitor without TN panel..? I think monitors based on panels other than TN such as MVA, PVA etc. come in min. 20" size... Are they good for video editing? Which LCD monitor will you folks suggest for colour related work? Don't want much larger size, 20/22" is ok for me (bcos beyond that size price also increases).. I want colour perfection as much as possible. Do LCDs in 20/22 inch category (build on panel other than TN) meet the colour production of CRT?

Reply... :)

[nil1982]

Which is the cheapest LCD monitor without TN panel..? I think monitors based on panels other than TN such as MVA, PVA etc. come in min. 20" size... Are they good for video editing? Which LCD monitor will you folks suggest for colour related work? Don't want much larger size, 20/22" is ok for me (bcos beyond that size price also increases).. I want colour perfection as much as possible. Do LCDs in 20/22 inch category (build on panel other than TN) meet the colour production of CRT?

Reply... :)

As far as I know, in India Dell 2007WFP UltraSharpTM & Dell UltraSharpTM 2007FP.
See this for details (http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/20lcd?c=in&cs=indhs1&l=en&s=dhs).

[Thor]

Howdy all!!

My buddy wants to buy the following

Processor
A Motherboard
RAM
Video Card
Dvd Writer

His budget is 25 K, and he loves playing latest games and all.

I would love to have a suggestion from you people on , whats the best combination would be ?

Also :P I am planning to buy an External DVDWriter. Which Brand and model should I go for :D My Laptop's DVD RW had conked out on me !! :x

Thank you in advance for your time!

Regards.

[channabasanna]

I got the cost of ASUS Maximus Formula board from my dealer. It costs Rs 14500 in bangalore, Also can anyone suggest a good SLI board with PCI-E version 2.0. My budget is within 15000 for motherboard. My total budget is 35000 INR for processor Q6600, mobo, cabinet, RAM (2GB Kingston 800MHz DDR2), CM RP600 SMPS.

I am planning to buy CM Elite 330 cabinet, but when i buy a new Graphics Card will the Cabinet support the New nvidia cards length. Also how is NXZT Alpha Black Cabinet.

Do tell me which is better. Also tell me the cost of the above 2 cabinets.

[sagardani]

As far as I know, in India Dell 2007WFP UltraSharpTM & Dell UltraSharpTM 2007FP.
See this for details (http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/20lcd?c=in&cs=indhs1&l=en&s=dhs).

Yes, thanks for the info. But the response time is 16ms!!!:o Isn't that too looooong? There will be ghosting for fast motion scenes from movies and won't be suitable even for light gaming... BTW just a question- are TN panels really bad in colour production? I don't consider the narrow viewing angle of them because I don't think that will practically going to affect me. So colour quality is what I concern. So TN panels are really bad in colours reproduction?

[nil1982]

Yes, thanks for the info. But the response time is 16ms!!!:o Isn't that too looooong?

That's the normal response time for 8 bit panels (14-16ms). Even excellent and very expensive Apple Cinema Displays have 14ms response time.
http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html
Find reviews on these DELL models and see what people/experts say. I have read a lot and most of the people are happy.
About colour quality of TN panels, I am not the right person to pass a comment. Wait for real experts to reply.

[sagardani]

That's the normal response time for 8 bit panels (14-16ms). Even excellent and very expensive Apple Cinema Displays have 14ms response time.
http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html


So will that cause ghosting even while light gaming and for movies fast action scenes (mostly 720p) ??

[nil1982]

So will that cause ghosting even while light gaming and for movies fast action scenes (mostly 720p) ??

This can be answered only by someone with hand on experience. So I am not the right person. But @ 16ms response time, videos, games up to 60-62fps frame rate should run without any ghosting issues. Experts correct me if I am wrong.
I have read a useful review on DELL 2007WFP on another Indian hardware forum that may be useful for you too, but I don't know if posting the link of another hardware forum is allowed here or not.

[sagardani]

Thanks nil1982..... Please someone clear my doubts.

** 16ms will cause lag/blur or ghosting effect while watching fast motion scenes in (720p) movies?

** The new TN panels give equally good colour production as compared to S-IPS or other panels?

[nil1982]

Thanks nil1982..... Please someone clear my doubts.

** 16ms will cause lag/blur or ghosting effect while watching (720p) movies?

** The new TN panels give equally good colour reproduction compared to S-IPS or other panels?

You are welcome. Technically/theoretically TN panels can't give same color quality as S-IPS panels since they can produce 6 bit true color, means 2^18 colors whereas S-IPS (or any 8 bit panel) can produce 8 bit colors i.e. 2^24 colors. But nowadays TNs are said to be much better but not as good as 8 bit panels. Despite having no hand on experience this can be said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

[jeetu]

Help neeped
I need a buy a computer with Intel Chipset.
I have 22,000 Rs of maximim budget to buy motherboard , 2gb ram , cabinet , cpu , graphic card and 160 gb hard disk.
So far i have shortlisted Intel E4500 CPU and XFX 8600 GT graphic card.
The motherboard must have average overclocking feature (to overclock CPU at 266 FSB instead of default 200) while ensuring stablity.
I live in north delhi.

[sagargv]

^^avoid XFX for 8600GT

[sagardani]

Technically/theoretically TN panels can't give same color quality as S-IPS panels since they can produce 6 bit true color, means 2^18 colors whereas S-IPS (or any 8 bit panel) can produce 8 bit colors i.e. 2^24 colors. But nowadays TNs are said to be much better but not as good as 8 bit panels. Despite having no hand on experience this can be said.

Thanks again nil1982 :). Just a curiosity... Your sign. says you're thinking for a display. So what are you upto?

Can somebody answer this-

** 16ms response time will cause lag/blur or ghosting effect while watching (720p) movies?

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

am not sure but mostly yes !

its 60 FPS is the maximum in any hdtv ..
its like 1/60 which is 16.666 ms

so your TV has exactly the necessary time response for HDTV

[gxsaurav]

I m asking here only as no one is replying in the proper thread of my Workstation.

I need a 19" or 20" LCD monitor with 8bit LCD with HDCP. Which one should I go for. How is LG L206WTQ?

[nil1982]

I m asking here only as no one is replying in the proper thread of my Workstation.

I need a 19" or 20" LCD monitor with 8bit LCD with HDCP. Which one should I go for. How is LG L206WTQ?

LG L206WTQ is not an 8 bit panel. AFAIK the only 20" 8 bit panels available in India are DELL 2007WFP UltraSharp, DELL 2007FP UltraSharp & 20" Apple Cinema Display.

The DELL one is described in their website as

DellTM 2007WFP
Cutting-edge technology, with a design that's well-suited for environments where space is at a premium
Less bulk, weight, and depth than comparable CRT monitors
Clear, sharp images even at maximum brightness
Can work in areas of high electromagnetic interference without noticeable distortion
Can accept a variety of video inputs - analog, Digital with HDCP, S-Video and Composite.
Energy Star® compliant
LCD (Liquid Crystal Display) flat panel monitors provide exceptionally clear, sharp, flicker-free images, with none of the image distortion CRTs are prone to. They reduce eyestrain and fatigue, thereby helping to increase productivity
Dell-branded monitors undergo exhaustive testing for performance, reliability, durability and compatibility with Dell systems
Dell-branded monitors are designed to our exacting quality standards and meet or exceed relevant industry standards
Using DVI with a flat panel will result in better front of screen performance with crisper and clearer images.
Using a DVI graphics card with a DVI flat panel provides a seamless digital connection - the signal doesn't have to be converted from digital to analog then back to digital again.
3 Year Next Business Day Advanced Exchange Warranty

[jeetu]

^^avoid XFX for 8600GT
Whats the problem with this card?
Any alternative?

[sagargv]

evga or galaxy . xfx has heating issues.

[nil1982]

Thanks again nil1982 :). Just a curiosity... Your sign. says you're thinking for a display. So what are you upto?

I am into web designing. Yes I am thinking of an LCD. Would have bought DELL but I am stuck due to the road tax issue in West Bengal.:mad:
Call me Niladri, that's my name. :)

[gxsaurav]

Dell 2007WFP is for 18k & 16 MS responce time, it's way out of myu budget.

If I go with LG 206WTQ what will I loose?

I need the LCD for everything, 3ds Max, Photoshop, gaming (lite), movies.

[nil1982]

Dell 2007WFP is for 18k & 16 MS responce time, it's way out of myu budget.

If I go with LG 206WTQ what will I loose?

I need the LCD for everything, 3ds Max, Photoshop, gaming (lite), movies.

With LG 206WTQ you will loose colour accuracy and viewing angles compared to Dell 2007WFP.

[gxsaurav]

Ok, what difference will it make in real world scenario? I saw one Viewsonic 19" LCD at my friend's home with an iPod dock, don't remembar the model, any idea what panel it has?

[coolest111]

pls check these configurations any suggestion is welcome......
pls see if u suggest any thing it should not vary beyond Rs 500 from current product price


Processors (CPU): Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.0GHz)
Graphics Cards: ASUS 8600GT 256MB
Motherboards: nForce 650i Ultra
Memory (RAM): Transcend JetRam 1GB PC6400*2
SMPS (PSU): Cooler Master extreme Power 500W
Hard Drives: Western Digital Caviar 250GB
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech Multimedia Keyboard & Optical Mouse
Sound Cards: Sound Blaster 5.1

[hellgate]

^^^ dont buy 650i chipset based mobo.they hav become outdated.get a IP35-E instead.

[coolest111]

^^^ok thanx anything else i need to change....???
every suggestion is valuable.......
Now my config is......
Processors (CPU): Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.0GHz)
Graphics Cards: ASUS 8600GT 256MB
Motherboards: aBit IP35-E
Memory (RAM): Transcend JetRam 1GB PC6400*2
SMPS (PSU): Cooler Master extreme Power 500W
Hard Drives: Western Digital Caviar 250GB
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech Multimedia Keyboard & Optical Mouse
Sound Cards: Sound Blaster 5.1

1 thing more does aBit IP35-E
have issues with vista??
n will it support both 64 and 32 bit OS??

[dOm1naTOr]

SB Live 5.1 is a far outdated card nd most onboard HD audio performs similar. Get Audigy 2 value for 1.8k. It has Dolby/DTS digital decoder and performs gr8 for the price.
And if the config is for gaming, then 8600GT will be holding back most of ur gud hardwares. get at least an HD 3850 512 for 9k or 9600GT for 10k.
Theres no comparison b/w an 8600GT and HD 3850/9600GT.

[nish_higher]

buying a sound card won't do any good unless you have some great (and expensive) speakers.
and if thats a NO , stick with onboard-its good :)

IP35-E has no issues with any OS, although make sure the board u get is from a newest lot otherwise you MAY have trouble installing vista without a bios update .thats not a big thing though-a bios update will do.
64bit OS works great

btw-we all suggest IP35-E but how many are aware of it being out of stock in india? :D

[rahulmig]

i have IP 35 -E in stock,, there is no shortage of that board as such

[nish_higher]

^ great. mention its price here
3 days ago almost every computer wala in Delhi\Chd\Bnglr gave the same reply-"Out of stock"

[channabasanna]

I got the cost of ASUS Maximus Formula board from my dealer. It costs Rs 14500 in bangalore, Also can anyone suggest a good SLI board with PCI-E version 2.0. My budget is within 15000 for motherboard. My total budget is 35000 INR for processor Q6600, mobo, cabinet, RAM (2GB Kingston 800MHz DDR2), CM RP600 SMPS.

I am planning to buy CM Elite 330 cabinet, but when i buy a new Graphics Card will the Cabinet support the New nvidia cards length. Also how is NXZT Alpha Black Cabinet.

Do tell me which is better. Also tell me the cost of the above 2 cabinets.

Hi All, Please do help. I will be buying the stuff next saturday. :)

Please do tell about the Cabinet.

[nil1982]

Ok, what difference will it make in real world scenario? I saw one Viewsonic 19" LCD at my friend's home with an iPod dock, don't remembar the model, any idea what panel it has?

It's VX1945WM (http://ap.viewsonic.com/in/products/productspecs.php?id=297), TN panel. Just go through the specs of an LCD, 8 bit panels will have 176-178 degree viewing angle and 14-16ms response time (or 6-8ms g-t-g). That's the basic way to understand the panel type (only if 6 or 8 bit, but I don't know in case of 8 bit if there is any way to know the panel type, i.e S-IPS, S-PVA or P-MVA by specs).

This VX1945wm is known as a good monitor. Ask Choto Cheeta since he has one.

[rahulmig]

@ nish_higher (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=14210)

5450 + Shipping

[coolest111]

ok thanx anything else i need to change....???
every suggestion is valuable.......

Now my config is......
Processors (CPU): Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.0GHz)
Graphics Cards: ????
Motherboards: aBit IP35-E
Memory (RAM): Transcend JetRam 1GB PC6400*2
SMPS (PSU): Cooler Master extreme Power 500W
Hard Drives: Western Digital Caviar 250GB
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech Multimedia Keyboard & Optical Mouse


this config is not for hardcore gaming pc.......
pls help me out my pc would be for normal games.....

will not ASUS 8600GT 256MB will be sufficient....?

[nish_higher]

consider 9600GT or stick to Asus 8600GT
btw what is this config for?

[sagardani]

Ok, what difference will it make in real world scenario? I saw one Viewsonic 19" LCD at my friend's home with an iPod dock, don't remembar the model, any idea what panel it has?

Exactly this is my question. 6bit and 8bit panel!! What difference will be in colour production because of just 2 bits ? Will that practically matter? Someone having expereince in this???

Hey nish_higher... Need your little help. I've dropped down thought of p7n sli platinum... I don't need SLI.. So suggest me a motherboard which has PCIe 2.0 and dual chaanel, ddr2/3..

[nish_higher]

well i dont think there's a board with a single PCI-E 2.0 slot
a very few mobos have PCI-E 2.0 and those are all Sli / Crossfire.

[nil1982]

Exactly this is my question. 6bit and 8bit panel!! What difference will be in colour production because of just 2 bits ? Will that practically matter? Someone having expereince in this???

Technically this 'just' 2 bits means 16,515,072 number of color difference.:D
an 8 bit panel can display that many more colors than a 6 bit panel.

[coolest111]

consider 9600GT or stick to Asus 8600GT
btw what is this config for?
he config is for just to upgrade my old pc within a budget of 40 k.........

so finally should i buy my config.....?

[gxsaurav]

Ok, it is all very confusing. So which LCD Monitor should I buy? I need to use it for these things

1) Workstations tasks, Extensive use of 3ds Max, Photshop & Microsoft Blend. Good colour reproduction is required but 100% accurate isn't really required. 70% use

2) Gaming, once in a while. I do game but not much so ghosting & trailing is something which should be avoided. 10% use

3) HDCP is a must, either by HDMI or HDCP over DVI. 2% use

4) Lots of text reading (tutorials) browsing etc. 15% use

5) Movies, i m not a movie buff though so just like to watch once in a while from the couch. 3% use.

I will not go with Dell 2007WFP Monitor cos it is without DVI, it is indeed a 8 bit panel but if I am paying 18k then I want HDCP in it.

Any other 8bit panel I can buy? If I buy Dell 2007WFP with 16 MS response time, what drawback will it have.

LG L206WQT (http://www.in.lge.com/Product/Products-Details.aspx?cat=171&pid=4778&subcat=LCD) is still a nice deal for me, I m keeping it as a last resort. They claim it has 16.7 Million color support, & 170 degree viewing angel looks nice to me. Is it worth buying for my use?

[sagardani]

^^^

We 2 are in the same dilemma:(. LG L206WQT (http://www.in.lge.com/Product/Products-Details.aspx?cat=171&pid=4778&subcat=LCD) is TN panel. So colour production is not good as 2007WFP which is the only S-IPS monitor in India under 20k... Its even way out of my budget and its '16ms' is forcing me away from it. Read the reviews. None has said its that good for movies watching. But everyone has praised it for colour production, ofcourse its 8bit. So if you can compramise on games, movies its choice for you BUT ONLY if you want colour production. Editing works like colour grading in my opinion will be as good as CRT on it. As your 70% work is colour-related, you won't regret it;).

Otherwise TN panels give the best vfm. Im thinking of them too. But you have to compramise on colour reproduction. Sadly there's not a budget all-rounder currently in India:(.

Hey nish_higher, thanks for reply. So I should stick-up with p7n only.... :P

[nish_higher]

he config is for just to upgrade my old pc within a budget of 40 k.........

so finally should i buy my config.....?

yea definitely buy 8600GT only..and if ur budget allows get a CPU cooler too- like a Hyper TX2 which wont cost more than 1500 rupees

Also instead of transcends get corsair\kingston ram

[gxsaurav]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA.....ok fine, I have a big computer table so I m going to keep both.

I talked to Choto, he recommended LG L194WT which is something I have available here. I m going to keep the current CRT monitor as well as the LCD monitor both & run in a dual monitor setup. No problem with colors....

Ok, so LG L194WT & L206WTQ, is it viable to go for 20" over 19" for my work, I will run at 1440X900 only else things get very small.

[sivarap]

Someone suggest a good 17" LCD display...

purpose: Non gaming.

Thanks :)

[mayanksharma]

Choose from Viewsonic Value Series like VA703b or typical Flatron LXXX series from LG.

[channabasanna]

Hi All,

Yesterday i brought the following.
1. Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor : Rs 10,400
2. ASUS Maximus Formula Motherboard : Rs 14,500
3. Corsair XMS2 (1GB x 2) DDR2 800MHz RAM : Rs 3,100
4. Cooler Master extreme Power 600W : Rs 3,400
5. Cooler Master Elite 332 Cabinet : Rs 2,500
6. IDE to USB External Casing : Rs 650

I did not get Kingston 800MHz 2GB DDR2 RAM, NZXT Cabinets

[sivarap]

Choose from Viewsonic Value Series like VA703b or typical Flatron LXXX series from LG.
Hey thanks. Can you mention the price...please. :)

[darklord]

Hi All,

Yesterday i brought the following.
1. Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor : Rs 10,400
2. ASUS Maximus Formula Motherboard : Rs 14,500
3. Corsair XMS2 (1GB x 2) DDR2 800MHz RAM : Rs 3,100
4. Cooler Master extreme Power 600W : Rs 3,400
5. Cooler Master Elite 332 Cabinet : Rs 2,500
6. IDE to USB External Casing : Rs 650

I did not get Kingston 800MHz 2GB DDR2 RAM, NZXT Cabinets

Nice board you got there.Immense potential, if you know how to exploit it,congrats !

[gump]

I am planing to buy the following Config this week. please suggest me:

Main Use: Gaming and browsing...

Core 2 duo 2.2 Ghz
INtel 945 board (do not know if this board is good but the dealer told this is enough... plz suggest)
2GB Ram
250 GB HDD
Samsung 19' LCD
Samsung Keybord
Logitech Mouse
LG DVD 20x
Creative 2.1
iBall Cabinet

The above configuration totally is costing me Rs 28,000. Dealer price quote

i do not know wheather i should add any graphics card to this config. if so please suggest me a card below 5K guyz...

Can i opt for AMD.... if so wot processor and Board i should opt for guys...


please help guys.... am based in chennai

[adithyagenius]

Hi All,


5. Cooler Master Elite 332 Cabinet : Rs 2,500



How are the noise level of the cabinet and how many fans did u get with it?


I am planning to buy a computer for all round purpose. It should be linux (fedora must and ubuntu optional) compatible and vista 64 compatible and of course xp compatible I have in my mind a config. Please tell me if the same amount can be spent more efficiently. My primary target is to get playable fps in dx10 mode at very high settings in crysis at decent resolution.

1. intel e8200 - 8k - because it is overclockable and right now doesnt bottle neck my graphic card. it give more fps than any quad core or phenom near 10k
2. motherboard - please suggest one that goes with it. I should have onboard 5.1 as well as optical digital out. Also it should have minimum 4 usb rear and 2 usb front. I have mouse, wifi dongle, ups connector , 120gb external hdd, a 40gb external hdd connected. I frequently get requests to connect pen drives, mobile phones and bluetooth dongles. So more the better. It should overclock entry level and xtreme oc is not needed. 100mbps lan is must and 1gbs is appreciated. It should be able to run 24*7 without heating up.
3. gecube 3870x2 - 23k - because its cheaper to get this than to get 2 9600gt and sli capable and 100% stable motherboard. I hear that 680i and 780i are unstable and keep resetting or bsoding. I also heard that intel chipsets support only xfire and not sli. Also 3870x2 gives the highest fps at playable resolution in crysis compared to other graphics cards. please correct me if i am wrong.
4. ram - 2*2gb 800mhz transcend - is this compatible?
5. seagate 320gb hdd -3.6k
6. samsung 203b dvd writer - does this have any issues or is lite-on better?
7. psu corsair vx550 or 520hx or 620hx depending on avaiability and price.
8. cabinet. please suggest one which doesnt make noise and keeps my system stable. Should have atleast 2 front usb and audio panel.
9. lcd panel. please suggest one that has aspect ration correction or 1:1 pixel rendering for non-native resolutions. Does Dell E228WFP 22" WideScreen Flat Panel Monitor (13k) or Dell E248WFP Entry 24" WideScreen Flat Panel Monitor (19k) have these features or will things look fat and distorted when viewing in 1024*748 or 1280*1024 or 1600*1200. I really like the price of dell lcd panels and want to buy one of them.
10. a pro logic 2 decoder headphone - creative 5.1 hq2300d with dolby digital pro logic 2 and dts decoder built in with digital optical in as well as standard rca.
11. i already have creative t6060 speakers
12. i already have genius navigator 535 mouse
13. suggest a good keyboard with no gap between del, end , pg dn keys row and up arrow key. there should be no gap between left arrow and ctrl and also between right arrow and numpad.

Suggest me a better build if it exists which falls under 75k

[axxo]

I am planing to buy the following Config this week. please suggest me:

Main Use: Gaming and browsing...

Core 2 duo 2.2 Ghz
INtel 945 board (do not know if this board is good but the dealer told this is enough... plz suggest)
2GB Ram
250 GB HDD
Samsung 19' LCD
Samsung Keybord
Logitech Mouse
LG DVD 20x
Creative 2.1
iBall Cabinet

The above configuration totally is costing me Rs 28,000. Dealer price quote

i do not know wheather i should add any graphics card to this config. if so please suggest me a card below 5K guyz...

Can i opt for AMD.... if so wot processor and Board i should opt for guys...


please help guys.... am based in chennai


Proc- E8200/E8400
Intel G31/G33/p35 board
2Gb Transcend DD2 667/800
Any 8600GT Graphics adapter

[gump]

Is the graphics card really neccessary

[DigitalDude]

Is the graphics card really neccessary
if you want to play something other than counterstrike... gfx card is necessary :lol:



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[gump]

if you want to play something other than counterstrike... gfx card is necessary :lol:



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If i want to opt for AMD which is best Processor and Board i should go for :confused:

[channabasanna]

How are the noise level of the cabinet and how many fans did u get with it?


I had got one 120mm fan with the Cabinet, it was screwed to the rear of the cabinet, so i got it fixed in the front of the cabinet as a intake for cool air.

Noise level is ok, since i keep it on the Computer Table so i get the noise, also i have put one exhaust blower and once LED fan (120mm) as exhaust.

Here are the pictures of PC Blower

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8025/pccoolerts0.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pccoolerts0.jpg)

and CoolerMaster LED 120mm Fan.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9210/coolermasterfanrk3.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coolermasterfanrk3.jpg)

[DigitalDude]

If i want to opt for AMD which is best Processor and Board i should go for :confused:
I dunno about AMD... they have ceased to be cool... Intel is rocking ;)

and seriously what is the primary reason you want to opt for AMD when Core 2 Duo's give good bang for the buck ??


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[the_ajay_007]

Hi All,
I plan to buy a PC by this month. Bascially I am going to use it for programming, browsing, listening music and watching videos as well as gaming. My Gameset consists of Age of Empires II, Age of Empires III, NFS Underground, Empire Earth( I & II ), FPS like CS, HalfLife etc.,.
1.Processor : I decided to stick with Intel Procy.
2.MoBo : Do I need to purchase Graphics Card because, I am in idea of going for MoBo with onboard graphics. What is difference b/w Intel Chipset boards and nForce xxxi/ xxxi SLI chipset boards. Which on will be good ? Also what will be difference b/w Original Intel MoBo and Mobo from Other brands like Asus, MSI etc.,
3. PSU : A purely branded one like CoolerMaster or Corsair
4. Display : LCD
5. Rest can be from any brand.
My budget is Rs.35000/= without GPU and with GPU I can extend it to another RS.5000/=.
Can you people help me with suitable configuration for my rig. I will be happy if the prices corresponds to chennai rates or Otherwise also it is okay for me. Needs all of your suggestions...


Thanks

[gxsaurav]

Here are the pictures of PC Blower

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8025/pccoolerts0.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pccoolerts0.jpg)



How much for this?

[DigitalDude]

Hi All,

I plan to buy a PC by this month. Bascially I am going to use it for programming, browsing, listening music and watching videos as well as gaming. My Gameset consists of Age of Empires II, Age of Empires III, NFS Underground, Empire Earth( I & II ), FPS like CS, HalfLife etc.,.

1.Processor : I decided to stick with Intel Procy.

2.MoBo : Do I need to purchase Graphics Card because, I am in idea of going for MoBo with onboard graphics. What is difference b/w Intel Chipset boards and nForce xxxi/ xxxi SLI chipset boards. Which on will be good ? Also what will be difference b/w Original Intel MoBo and Mobo from Other brands like Asus, MSI etc.,

3. PSU : A purely branded one like CoolerMaster or Corsair

4. Display : LCD

5. Rest can be from any brand.

My budget is Rs.35000/= without GPU and with GPU I can extend it to another RS.5000/=.

Can you people help me with suitable configuration for my rig. I will be happy if the prices corresponds to chennai rates or Otherwise also it is okay for me. Needs all of your suggestions...

Thanks

you dont need SLI mobos and high end configs as your gaming requirement is pretty low..

1. Intel E4500 - rs 4800/-
2. Intel G33 Mobo (Onboard Video: Intel GMA 3100) - rs 5600/-

3. Cooler Master Extreme Power 460W - rs 3100/- (600W for rs 4000/- is recommended if going for a gfx card)
4. ViewSonic 19" LCD Monitor - rs 9860/-

5. Cooler Master CM 690 Computer Case - rs 4300/-
6. Seagate SATA 250GB Hard Drive - rs 2600/-
7. Corsair 1GB DDR2 667Mhz Ram x 2 - rs 3200/-

total without a gfx card around Rs.32,460/- (approx prices.. you can get cheaper than this in store)

XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 - rs 4900/- is recommended :D

and use your remaining amount for other peripherals ;)


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[channabasanna]

How much for this?

Hi, It cost me Rs260 and courier of Rs74, i brought it from ebay. It is very effective and exhausts hot air nicely. My new cabinet is now cool. I mean the temperature :) :p .

[gump]

I dunno about AMD... they have ceased to be cool... Intel is rocking ;)

and seriously what is the primary reason you want to opt for AMD when Core 2 Duo's give good bang for the buck ??


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I booked my system today with greentech computers chennai.

Core 2 Quad 2.4, INtel DG35 board, 8600 GT, viewsonic 19' WS :razz:

[DigitalDude]

^^^

nice :D

also tell us the exact price of each component ;) that would be helpful to other members in knowing the prices :)


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[adithyagenius]

I got an offer of NZXT Lexa Blackline Blue LED Light 8E-LX002-UUB and corsair 620hx for 12k. Hows it?

[channabasanna]

I am using 2 GB rite now. But will add another 2 GB soon when I install Vista.

32 bit OS can only detect upto 3 gb ram. Hence, dont go for 4 GB ram if u r using 32 bit XP SP2.

Hi Bullzi, Can i know what is the normal mother temperature, when i run PC Probe II it shows 41C, NB is 46C, SB is 51C, Can i know what are all these. Please do help me in setting up the temperatures for my motherboard.

[mayanksharma]

NB stands for NorthBridge, SB stands for SouthBridge core on your motherboard. NB is memory controller hub for your system. It handles communications between the CPU, RAM, AGP or PCI Express, and the southbridge on motherboard.
SouthBridge on the other hand is the I/O Controller hub. It handles USB,IDE,SATA etc communication. Q6600 is clocked 2.4Ghz by default. Anything more than that means, processor is overclocked. Since, u have a good mobo, u can overclock processor to some extent. As per your quotes, the processor is running at 41 degrees, NB at 46 and SB at 51 degrees. Seems normal. Btw, for better temperature and voltage monitoring u should use HWMonitor and CoreTemp utilities.

[Thor]

Howdy all!!

My buddy wants to buy the following

Processor
A Motherboard
RAM
Video Card
Dvd Writer

His budget is 25 K, and he loves playing latest games and all.

I would love to have a suggestion from you people on , whats the best combination would be ?

Also :P I am planning to buy an External DVDWriter. Which Brand and model should I go for :D My Laptop's DVD RW had conked out on me !! :x

Thank you in advance for your time!

Regards.

Err Help on these please ?

Thanks!

[mayanksharma]

^^
E8200+Abit IP35+MSI 9600GT+Samsung DVD Writer.
Btw, doesnt he require Cabinet,PSU,Display etc? If not, replace 9600GT by a GTS!:D And if he does, then go for 8600GT :p
Regarding external DVD Writer, Lite-On DX-20A3H or Pioneer DVR X122 should be nice!

[john_the_ultimate]

Ok guys.
I friend has a budget of 15k max and he wants to buy:
CPU
MOBO
RAM
LCD monitor (19"ws if it comes under his budget)
So, what's your say? Do reply quickly as he is going to but the things on thursday.

I had suggested
E2140/E2160
Intel DG31PR
Kingston value ram 1GB
AOC 917VM 19" ws lcd

NO overclocking or any such things, just plain and stable system is required.

[mayanksharma]

IMO, a 2GB RAM could be stuffed with that budget.
What u've suggested is just good!

[john_the_ultimate]

I am also thinking if 2GB could be squeezed into that budget. Let's see.

[Thor]

^^
E8200+Abit IP35+MSI 9600GT+Samsung DVD Writer.
Btw, doesnt he require Cabinet,PSU,Display etc? If not, replace 9600GT by a GTS!:D And if he does, then go for 8600GT :p
Regarding external DVD Writer, Lite-On DX-20A3H or Pioneer DVR X122 should be nice!

No he has a machine already, so he will just add the stuffs to the existing hardwares!

Is this ABIT mobo available freely here ? we r in Kolkata! and Have to put int RAM too ... 2 gb ddr2 800 MhZ costs around 200 bucks right ?
Could u give me a breakup on the price os the suggested hardwares ?

I forgot to write about the processor! Sorry!

So within 25 K he can even get a GTS ? :O
wow!

[coolest111]

i am totally confused in buying a pc at 40k pls help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
remember it will b used 4 average gaming so Asus 8600gt 512 mb/256 mb will b enough......
so budget reaches to 34-35k approx.....
now pls help it includes everything except UPS..........
pls tell the best......

[ajayashish]

Is this ABIT mobo available freely here ?

Are free kahan se milega... :) U can get Abit in Tirupati Enterprise in Chandni, Kolkata...

[DigitalDude]

^^^ LOL

@Thor

sorry dude a case+psu alone doesn't qualify as a machine :lol:

Let me price everything for ya

Abit IP35 Mobo - rs.5200/-
C2D E8200 - rs.8000/-
XFX 8600GT 256MB - rs.4900/-
Corsair XMS2 2X1GB DDR2 800Mhz - rs.4500/-
DVD Writer (Some Brand) - rs.1300/-

approx. total - rs.23,900/-

if you go for 9600GT it is around rs.10,000/- so your total would become rs.29,000/-

hope it helps :D


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i am totally confused in buying a pc at 40k pls help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
remember it will b used 4 average gaming so Asus 8600gt 512 mb/256 mb will b enough......
so budget reaches to 34-35k approx.....
now pls help it includes everything except UPS..........
pls tell the best......
see my previous post buddy http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=797639&postcount=3189

for the same budget...

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[channabasanna]

NB stands for NorthBridge, SB stands for SouthBridge core on your motherboard. NB is memory controller hub for your system. It handles communications between the CPU, RAM, AGP or PCI Express, and the southbridge on motherboard.
SouthBridge on the other hand is the I/O Controller hub. It handles USB,IDE,SATA etc communication. Q6600 is clocked 2.4Ghz by default. Anything more than that means, processor is overclocked. Since, u have a good mobo, u can overclock processor to some extent. As per your quotes, the processor is running at 41 degrees, NB at 46 and SB at 51 degrees. Seems normal. Btw, for better temperature and voltage monitoring u should use HWMonitor and CoreTemp utilities.

41 degrees was of the motherboard, processor was also in the limit. I will try using those 2 tools.

[coolest111]

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=797639&postcount=3189[/URL]

for the same budget...

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U HAVE MISSED MANY THINGS.......
LCD MONITOR 19" Rs 10K
SMPS Rs 3K APPROX
CABINET Rs 2.5K
MOUSE AND KEYBOARD Rs 800 APPROX........

[DigitalDude]

^^^

huh!! I said this post http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=797639&postcount=3189

go and click the above link... sheeeshh.. how noobish you guys can get :D


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[coolest111]

oops i missed it.....
Intel G33 Mobo is good?

processor u mentioned will become outdated soon as hexacore is going 2 b launched by the end of the year..........

[DigitalDude]

^^^

yes, if you want onboard gfx or else go with abit p35


lol hexacore... then you need to up your budget a bit to get E8400 or lose the gfx card now and upgrade later :D


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[coolest111]

ya hexacore is going 2 b released by the end of this year....

which 1 q6600 or e8400??

[DigitalDude]

^^^
E8400 (better FSB and cheaper than Q6600) not much games can effectively use quad cores...

but if you are into 3DMax or rendering/media encoding kinda stuff then Q6600


p.s. hexacores will be costing you an arm and a leg :p better stay with dual/quad cores :D

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[coolest111]

Processors (CPU): Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.0GHz)
Graphics Cards: ASUS 8600GT 256MB
Motherboards: abit p35
Memory (RAM): Transcend JetRam 1GB PC6400*2
SMPS (PSU): Cooler Master extreme Power 500W
Hard Drives: Western Digital Caviar 250GB
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech Multimedia Keyboard & Optical Mouse
is this fine?

[DigitalDude]

^^^
make the PSU 600W

also a Cooler Master CM690 Case :D or if you want a bit cheaper then Cooler Master Elite 332..

then its perfect..


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[coolest111]

cost of Cooler Master CM690 Case ,Cooler Master Elite 330??

[DigitalDude]

^^^

CM690 around 4k and Elite 332 around 2k


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[coolest111]

i was too confused.....
now it is ok......
thnx a lot.....

[sagardani]

Has Logitech discontinued Z5300??? I see G51 istead of that. Both come into almost same price range (10k-12k). Z5300 are aswesome with 280W RMs but G51 when compared comes with only 155W RmS... So Z5300 will be anytime better than G51. Not just because of power but Z5300 is also THX certified unlike G51...... + at 10-12k price Z5300 will create earthquake at your place.. G51 also comes at 10-12k. Don't you think its way too overpriced? Even Digit April hasn't reviewd Z5300.. so it seems they are discontinued. Why would Logitech do that? You get 80-90w RMs speakers around 6-7-8k.. So when you buy G51, you end up paying 11-12k and what you get is just 155 rms and nice looks... On the other hand Z5300 at the same price give you bomb of 280W Rms... and looks/design almost similar to Z5500... Z5300 are available at Pune (Sujata Comp.) at around 11k... So anytime Z5300 beats G51.. But sadly Logitech seems to have replaced it by comparatively poorer, low powered G51.. That sucks man in front of Z5300..! Hence, Z5300 are subject to availability so grab it if available..! Because Logitech is fooling people.......

[upendra_gp]

[AMD Sempron 65nm LE 1100 @ Rs. 1200 /- + TAX
MSI K9MM-V @ Rs. 1650 /- + TAX
1 GB DDR-II 667 MHz @ Rs. 850 /- + TAX][/CODE]

if i for this configuration will it e any faster than my current
P4 1.7GHz williamette+jetway mobo+128MB RAM?
also if u have any suggestions for such system please tell upto 4-4.5k.

[DigitalDude]

@sagardani
yes apparently its not available anywhere :D

but what stumps me is that they have apparently kept the Z-2300 :confused: maybe logitech is planning a new model to fill in that gap... and trying to clear off the G51 inventory..

@upendra
yes it will be obviously faster as your existing RAM is a piece best fit for a museum

you could even try Intel E2160 for good performance but that will be around 2.5 k.. another option is celeron 1.6 Ghz for rs. 1.4k

my suggestion is that instead of going for a single 1GB ram stick go for a 2 X 512MB RAM sticks... that would be faster

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[adithyagenius]

Will 650i's PCI-E 8x SLI bottleneck 9600 GT SLI or 8800 GT SLI?

[DigitalDude]

^^
yes... if you run latest games in higher resolutions... but not much if you dont want to run with bleeding edge resolutions :D

9600GT and 8800GT even have PCIe 2.0 specs... so you are infact reducing much of their potential by having the 8x SLI



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[adithyagenius]

^^ i am looking for reliable info. People were speculating similiarly about 7900GTX being bottlenecked by 8x. But testing found that 16x didin't help 7900GTX. I don't want to buy 780i A1 edition for 16k and later cry that I wated 10k due to speculation. Can you confirm it?

[DigitalDude]

yes its true that 16x doesnt offer gr8 performance advantages over 8x if using normal resolutions, but if you go to res like 2560×1600 then there might be performance benefits depending on your sys config. there are various benchmarks to demonstrate this.

dont base your buying decision of a 780i mobo just bcos it offers 16x SLI then you would be dissappointed as 16x SLI is not as juicy as it appears. but if you are the type that even considers 5 to 10% improvement as gr8 then go for the 16x SLI..

also gfx cards practically dont use the whole bandwidth of PCIe all the time..


in short: the bottleneck is not massive and you are fine with your 650i if 8x SLI is your only concern :)


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[adithyagenius]

^^
I am thinking of 9600GT KO or nx8800gt (both factory oced) in sli for 1680*1050 res gaming. 8x wont bottleneck. if performane drops by >10% i can get 3870x2 on 16x single card setup and getter better fps and save money or go for 750i for 4k more. whats your opnion?

[channabasanna]

41 degrees was of the motherboard, processor was also in the limit. I will try using those 2 tools.

Can you tell me how to update the bios of ASUS Maximus Formula, also tell me how to find which version i have in my system (other than BIOS), i have downloaded the update version 0907.

Also tell me about the limit in which the motherboard should be in, including NB, SB etc...

[rahulmig]

@adithyagenius (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=1804)

Why Not Go for EVGA 9800GTX 512 mb ddr3

[mayanksharma]

@adithya,
As far as i have seen, the performance difference is negligible at most resolutions. Scores at Futuremark with 680i mobo using SLI setup are just a penny high than SLI setup with 650is! One more thing, PCI 1.1 and PCI 2.0 technologies are good as it sounds. When it comes to practicality, the performance difference between both is none! No GPU in market, is utilizing that much of bandwidth provided by 2.0 specs. So, better not to worry about that part much! Though, in future it will!

@coolest111,
lol..the name "HexaCore" in itself is funny!! :D Call it Dunnington btw! :p

@channabasanna,
U can use CPU-Z ! Well, regarding temps..anything below 45 degrees is excellent during load for a C2Q !
Same goes for NB as well!

@rahulmig,
with that whopping 9800GTX price tag, u can easily purchase 2 9600GTs or 2 8800GTs and build a SLI setup, that can outperform a single 9800GTX in almost every possible benchmark!! And that is enough for making the choice quite clear in everybody's mind!

[DigitalDude]

@rahulimg
what is the price ??

@adithya
I guess you can go for 3870x2 as cross fire will scale better in low-mid resolutions... SLI is great for higher resolutions :)
and either save yourself from buying a new mobo or upgrade to one with good intel chipset to go with your 3870x2

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[adithyagenius]

@digitaldue
I heard that 3870x2 sucks in dx10 at all resolutions although its faster at lower resolution in dx9. I wouldn't want to spend 60k and have no dx10 gaming. Also its noisier than 2 9600gt in general. I dont know about gecube one though but its cheap so it should also make more noise. I am spending 11k to make sure my cabinet and psu dont make noise. I have now knocked out 3870x2 from possibilities. I feel sad at less number of choices. If 9600gt gets slowed down by 8x pcie slots, I would definitely go for a higher chipset.

@rahulmig
because 9800gtx is slower than 2 9600gt and even costs more. I can take the price difference and buy sli mobo. actually even 3870x2 beats 9800gtx.

@mayanksharma
I know pc-e 2.0 is useless for my cards. But 8x pci-e 650i vs 16x pci-e 680i? if there is no difference they why is everyone hyping bus bandwidth issues and make pci-e 2 16x which is 4 times faster than pci-e 8x? isn't this confusing?

[sivarap]

Can i go in for the Gigabit NVDIA 610 based motherboard? it costs 2800...plz help
any major disadvantage over XFX 630i otherthan the GPU?

[nish_higher]

I know pc-e 2.0 is useless for my cards. But 8x pci-e 650i vs 16x pci-e 680i? if there is no difference they why is everyone hyping bus bandwidth issues and make pci-e 2 16x which is 4 times faster than pci-e 8x? isn't this confusing?
there is a very slight difference if u consider extreme high end cards but not otherwise.check my siggy-i got a 680i ultra.i also got a P5n-e-sli and P5n 32 e- sli..all perform the same :| in that department.

you should buy a 750i mobo,preferably a P7N-Sli platinum-the best right now.

[rahulmig]

Price For EVGA 9800 GTX is 19.5k

[fuzzz]

well i was thinking of purchasing a new cpu cooler
my choice was the arctic freezer pro7.. do you think its a good buy? else if u could suggest something better
also could some1 tell me where i can buy arctic silver 5& the arctic freezer pro in mumbai ? cause in andheri its not available (never even heard of it !)

[mayanksharma]

Yep it is a good buy. U need to be specific about ur system processor. You can also look for Coolermaster Hyper 212 instead. Better than Freezer! Though, check the dimensions for fitment in the cabinet!
In Mumbai, u can contact....ITWare Hub or something like that. May be other mumbai members can give u the exact contact details.