Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[gxsaurav]

Thanks then, let me talk to my vendor right now.

Oh! by the way, since I will not be overclocking, should I stick to the default CPU cooler & thermal compound bundled with the CPU or should I go with something else?

I got a tube of Arctic Silver 2 in my "Warehouse" (thh cupboard where I keep all my gadget boxes). It is a 2 years old tube, don't know whether the compound is still effective or not.

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^na these componds(AS2) don't go bad,so you can atill use it.BTW new tube costs about 250-300.

[gxsaurav]

ya but available on order only, so I going to use my AS2 if it is still liquid :D

[nish_higher]

i'd say better stick to the stock cooler and don't use that old thermal compound.coz if its ineffective u'll have to spend another 250 bucks to apply new compound.
and its a discontinued product


It can be used if u had kept it in fridge for 2 yrs.coz its shelf life is 2yrs only which can be extended in fridge

[gxsaurav]

It was in a shelf only :D.

I m throwing it out, it smells weird then it used to, seems like it has rotten

[nish_higher]

it can still be used in some other gadget if u into electronics
[Offtopic]those 3d pics are great on ur MSN Spaces..and its Hospital :D

[gxsaurav]

^^^ what hospital?

[nish_higher]

last pic in ur city
http://gxsaurav.spaces.live.com/photos/cns!ECCD256D4687F1CC!156/cns!ECCD256D4687F1CC!163/?ViewType=4

[infra_red_dude]

Just back from S.P.Road (the computer hub at bangalore).

E6550 = 6.8k
E6750= 7.45k
E8200 = 7.95k
DG31 = 3.1k (OEM), 3.5k (box)
DG33 = 4.4k box
Abit P35-E = 5.2k
RAM = 1.1kx2
8500GT (256mb) = 2.75k
8500GT (512) = 3.6k
8600GT (256) =4.9k
19" W Viewsonic DVI = 8.8k
500W PSU = 0.6k
20x SATA DVD RW = 1.05k

I'm now wondering, 6.8k for E6550, 7.9k for E8200!!! I'm all Can someone confirm if Peryn procs run on Intel G31 chipset? (DG31). On the net, I do see that it does... I'm all confused! :confused:

[nish_higher]

^ there's a tool on intel's webpage to check processor compatibility.i cant open the pages
http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg33tl

http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg31pr

[Pathik]

Nope Infra.. They don't even support 1333mhz 65nm proccys. Forget the 45nm ones.

[MetalheadGautham]

Just back from S.P.Road (the computer hub at bangalore).

E6550 = 6.8k
E6750= 7.45k
E8200 = 7.95k
DG31 = 3.1k (OEM), 3.5k (box)
DG33 = 4.4k box
Abit P35-E = 5.2k
RAM = 1.1kx2
8500GT (256mb) = 2.75k
8500GT (512) = 3.6k
8600GT (256) =4.9k
19" W Viewsonic DVI = 8.8k
500W PSU = 0.6k
20x SATA DVD RW = 1.05k

I'm now wondering, 6.8k for E6550, 7.9k for E8200!!! I'm all Can someone confirm if Peryn procs run on Intel G31 chipset? (DG31). On the net, I do see that it does... I'm all confused! :confused:
which shops did you enquire ? 8500GT256 looks real good. so does RAM. I suggest that you find out more about E6420 and its lower brother. they are cheaper by a huge extent.

I heard some cheaper boards exist with penryn(1333mhzfsb) compatibility. just search.

[harryneopotter]

Ram Prices here in Wazirpur Market Delhi..

1 GB Kingston 667 - 900 /- (inclusive of taxes)
1 GB Transcend 800 - 1050 /- ( " )

[gxsaurav]

@ Anirudh

8500GT with 256 MB RAM is good enough for all your non-gaming needs. Go for it.

What is the brand of that 500W PSU?

[rollcage]

Ram Prices here in Wazirpur Market Delhi..

1 GB Kingston 667 - 900 /- (inclusive of taxes)
1 GB Transcend 800 - 1050 /- ( " )
Which Dealer???

gr8 actually I went to Wazirpur myself today :p
which shop you go to? and where u live in delhi?

I was there to buy a simple soundcard for the cousin's computer.
got it for 220 from my trusted shop Crux Computeronix ?

[gxsaurav]

Can someone confirm if Peryn procs run on Intel G31 chipset? (DG31). On the net, I do see that it does... I'm all confused! :confused:

According to this comparision available at Intel (http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=29051,29052,30815&familyID=12), Intel DG31PR will run CPU upto 1333 MHz FSB.

Here is the list of all CPUs supported by Intel DG31PR motherboard (http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?BoardName=dg31pr)

[harryneopotter]

Which Dealer???

gr8 actually I went to Wazirpur myself today :p
which shop you go to? and where u live in delhi?

I was there to buy a simple soundcard for the cousin's computer.
got it for 220 from my trusted shop Crux Computeronix ?

Actually .. i dnt knw the name of the shop, ... i can give u the direction ..when u come outside from the CRUX shop... there is a building at ur far left (around 50-75 metres away), this is the first corner shop in the building from the left side (ground floor) ....


And i live in rohini....wat bout u ?

[infra_red_dude]

Yeah 8500GT 256MB is more than enuf. Thats decided. 500W Codegen (I think) PSU.

I checked mostly all the old hats/new shops etc. and the whole market doesn't haf any E6000 series proc. below E6550. I was specifically looking for E6320 and E6420. All they haf is E2160/E4500/E6550 and up. The market has been flooded with E8200.

From the links I see that G31 Chipset can support upto Q9550 and clearly supports 1333Mhz E8200 (Peryn)!!! Whoa!!! Awesome board... If I can get the OEM board for 3k then nothing like it!!! :)

[MetalheadGautham]

Yeah 8500GT 256MB is more than enuf. Thats decided. 500W Codegen (I think) PSU.

I checked mostly all the old hats/new shops etc. and the whole market doesn't haf any E6000 series proc. below E6550. I was specifically looking for E6320 and E6420. All they haf is E2160/E4500/E6550 and up. The market has been flooded with E8200.

From the links I see that G31 Chipset can support upto Q9550 and clearly supports 1333Mhz E8200 (Peryn)!!! Whoa!!! Awesome board... If I can get the OEM board for 3k then nothing like it!!! :)
I don't think this saturday and sunday all shops will be open. Decide these two days, and burn lots and lots of calories this monday.

Try your best to get a mobo which is cheap, moderately overclockable and supports 1333MHz. Then you can comfortably run E8200 and OC it. Its strange that in the E6000 series, 420, the most common purchase and most VFM processor, is not available.

[infra_red_dude]

Sat. open, Sun. half day. This is business man!!! Not some school or IT company. If they close they lose!

I guess I'll either get DG31 or P35. Lemme see.

[MetalheadGautham]

Sat. open, Sun. half day. This is business man!!! Not some school or IT company. If they close they lose!

I guess I'll either get DG31 or P35. Lemme see.
try P35.

[keith_j_snyder2]

@keith: the ABiT board may be wrongly quoted, and Its actually 5k.
but 3870 had a recent price drop. My friend informed me about it today.


Sill its 512MB and its HD 3870!
Wonder whats the price of HD3850?

I guess for free!:D

2 Days back 3870 was selling for 14000/-
And now all of a sudden its half of the price?

Tricky! Isn't it?
Check it again!

[gxsaurav]

Do they support input from both DTH & cable.

If you want Analog as well as digital TV then go for either PCTV Hybrid Tuner Kit for Windows Vista (http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/uk/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Vista+Companion/PCTV+Hybrid+Tuner+Kit.htm)or Leadtek WinFast DTV 1800h Media Center Edition (http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tuner/overview.asp?lineid=6&pronameid=388). These are the cheapest yet the most effective TV Tuners to be used in Windows Vista with Vista Media Center.

Also how is quality of the output to TV. Is there any quality loss if routing signal from PC to TV. I already have an HTPC with HDMI/DVI output.


Don't know, I don't see any quality loss when I see TV on my 17" Monitor.

This just in....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

NO NEED TO BUY OR EXCHANGE MY EXISTING TV TUNER FOR A NEW ONE :D

Since I reinstalled Vista SP1, I tried the TV Function in WMC for the first time & to my surprice, it worked. My Pinnacle PCTV 100i TV Tuner works in Vista WMC & shows channels properly ...Yipeeee..

I m not buying a new TV Tuner card as my existing TV Tuner works fine in Vista. My Pinnacle remote doesn't work with WMC, but who cares when I can simply order XBOX 360 Universal Media Remote (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360universalremote/) from Microsoft company store (Free for us MVP) & it will work fine with Vista Media Center.

Thank you Microsoft for taking care of my 2 years old TV Tuner card :D

[dOm1naTOr]

@keith_j_snyder2 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=21252)
but the 14k price[high] for 3870 was due to less availability in here. Maybe now the price reduction + better availability[coz of more popularity] made it damn cheap.
but i dont think its 7k..no way
maybe less than 10k or max 9k.

after all u can crossfire an HD 3870 with a HD 3850 anytime. This is impressive considering the new price of 3850. And u can oc those cards independently. 3850 can be crancked the clocks for GPU close to 3870.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Yup! And since nvidia has launched 9600GT, ATi has to do something into this as their 4000 series are not here.
I have seen a price cut but thats only $20-$40. Not this much!
If HD3870 comes in 7K range then people would be stupid enough if they buy 9600GT or 8800GT where they can get same performance in a lesser price range!

[MetalheadGautham]

hey, what about HD3650 ? It already dropped below 4k mark(100$)

[nish_higher]

can u exactly tell what is the price of 3870X2 now?

[MetalheadGautham]

I have the intel D915GLVG motherboard.
its specifications are on the following link
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d915glvg/sb/CS-020821.htm
it states that I have a PCIe 1x slot
but the guy at the computer shop where I bought this system 2 years ago, when asked for a graphics card, says that my mobo lacks a PCIe slot. I am utterly confused. I thought till now that the writing on the board's box was wrong, and assumed that I lacked a PCIe slot. But the website of intel says otherwise. Please help me.

[infra_red_dude]

I have the intel D915GLVG motherboard.
its specifications are on the following link
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d915glvg/sb/CS-020821.htm
it states that I have a PCIe 1x slot
but the guy at the computer shop where I bought this system 2 years ago, when asked for a graphics card, says that my mobo lacks a PCIe slot. I am utterly confused. I thought till now that the writing on the board's box was wrong, and assumed that I lacked a PCIe slot. But the website of intel says otherwise. Please help me.
GFX cards are PCIe x16 while what you haf (as you say) is a PCIe x1 slot. GFX card can't be plugged into that slot.

[sagargv]

a g-card needs a pcie x16 slot ( x16 means "by 16 lanes" ) . though the slot may not be pcie x16 , it needs to be atleast physically x16 even though the slot may be only a x4 or x8 electrically. . . ur mobo has a pcie x1 slot(both physical and electrical) . theoretically u shud be able to run any pcie x16 g-card on it but with reduced preformance .. . however , that pcie x1 slot doesnt have the size of a x16 slot . so the g-card wont go into that slot at all although the card can run at x1 ....

u wud have to find the right place and cut the part of the g-card so that it fits into the x1 slot. . risky , havent heard of any1 doing that with success and simply not worth it as u'll get ultra low performance from that x1 slot

[MetalheadGautham]

I can't believe you are such a computer noob & still argue with others on silly computer & OS things.

Anyway, for graphics card your motherboard requirs a PCI Express X16 slot. You motherboard has one PCI Express X1 Slot which is not for graphics card.
GFX cards are PCIe x16 while what you haf (as you say) is a PCIe x1 slot. GFX card can't be plugged into that slot.
Thats not the problem. My PC vendor says there is NO PCIe SLOT AT ALL and there are ONLY two PCI slots. Hope you understand my situation. The part about getting a graphics card for that slot was oooold, and back then I was a n00b. Only recently did I find this thing out in the net that my mobo DOES have a PCIe slot, but my vendor denies it.

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ I totally fail to understand the point you wanna make.

[dOm1naTOr]

U just want to prove the vendor that he is wrong?
then show him the mobo and ask "if this slot is not PCIE 1x then WTH is it"?

[MetalheadGautham]

^^^ I totally fail to understand the point you wanna make.
my point is this: how do I find out if my mobo has a slot for sure ? I have no idea how a PCIe 1x slot looks like, though I have seen several PCIe 16x slots. I feel I may have been cheated and given another mobo when I bought my comp, or that the assembler might have exchanged my mobo with another one. I want to find out the truth, so I am asking.

[Pathik]

Ani afaik it doesnt natively atleast.. http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/g31/
and neways if u r getting a gpu then u shd get a abit ip35e.. And try to get the e8200 if u can..

[MetalheadGautham]

Ani afaik it doesnt natively atleast.. http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/g31/
and neways if u r getting a gpu then u shd get a abit ip35e.. And try to get the e8200 if u can..
dude, I am on a budget, and I have 915 chipset, not G31.

[infra_red_dude]

Ani afaik it doesnt natively atleast.. http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/g31/
and neways if u r getting a gpu then u shd get a abit ip35e.. And try to get the e8200 if u can..
Yeah, saw that page. Intel site does say however that G31 can take peryn proc. and 1333mhz fsb. The proc. mobo compatiblity list says that! Kinda confused...

dude, I am on a budget, and I have 915 chipset, not G31.
See this image: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/PI-AM2RS690MHD/images/slots.jpg

The small black slot (doesn't need to be black always) is the pci-e x1 slot. You can open up the cabinet and easily identify it.

[dOm1naTOr]

@MetalheadGautham (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=29801)
this might help u
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3743/a8nees9.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a8nees9.jpg)

[MetalheadGautham]

@dominator, infra:
thanks. I remember seeing it now. It was the small blue slot in the corner of my board.
Any good use for it ?

[dOm1naTOr]

a sound card with PCIE 1x slot or a gigabit ethernet card.
U can even get GFX card for 1x slot. There are many quadro series cards even with DDR3 on PCIE 1x interface.

[MetalheadGautham]

a sound card with PCIE 1x slot or a gigabit ethernet card.
U can even get GFX card for 1x slot. There are many quadro series cards even with DDR3 on PCIE 1x interface.
kutch sasta wala milega ?:D

by sasta I mean a sub 3k graphics solution

[priyadarshi]

anyone help me out plz....

bha log koi meri bhi to sun lo.....

[gxsaurav]

kutch sasta wala milega ?:D

by sasta I mean a sub 3k graphics solution

Not in PCI-Express X1 slot.

Upgrade your motherboard to Asus P5GC-MX, Rs 2,500

[MetalheadGautham]

Not in PCI-Express X1 slot.

Upgrade your motherboard to Asus P5GC-MX, Rs 2,500
What about entry level quadros ?
PS: I will make an entire platform upgrade soon. this is only temporary.

[gxsaurav]

Not possible in 3k, besides Quadro is for workstation not for general OS or gaming.

Better buy Asus P5GC-MX or a new platform upgrade.

[MetalheadGautham]

Not possible in 3k, besides Quadro is for workstation not for general OS or gaming.

Better buy Asus P5GC-MX or a new platform upgrade.
then what about old fashioned PCI graphics cards ?

PS: I am concidering buying Jetway 692G mobo with 4000+ for 5k, but...

[nish_higher]

^ hey i have another asus m2n-mx lying with me
if u want..its 1yr and 3months old.

[MetalheadGautham]

^ hey i have another asus m2n-mx lying with me
if u want..its 1yr and 3months old.
what processor does it gobble ? Is it compatible with P4 ? Does it have any onboard solution ?

[nish_higher]

it has gefore 6100 and its AMD's AM2 socket
i had x2 3800+ on it and its a good board.i reached 2.53ghz
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=343&model=1338&modelmenu=1

[MetalheadGautham]

it has gefore 6100 and its AMD's AM2 socket
i had x2 3800+ on it and its a good board.i reached 2.53ghz
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=343&model=1338&modelmenu=1
I am looking for either a second hand P4 mobo, or a brand new AM2 mobo.

Not in PCI-Express X1 slot.

Upgrade your motherboard to Asus P5GC-MX, Rs 2,500
is there a mobo with the following requirements ?(yours does not fill them)

1. Supports Intel E2160
2. Is Sub 3K cost
3. Supports DDR2 800 RAM in Dual Channel Configuration
4. Has a PCIe 16x Slot
5. Can be used with stock cooling to take E2160 to 2.4 GHz or 2.2 GHz

[infra_red_dude]

Not possible in 3k, besides Quadro is for workstation not for general OS or gaming.

Better buy Asus P5GC-MX or a new platform upgrade.
Whats the cost of P5GC-MX?

I am looking for either a second hand P4 mobo, or a brand new AM2 mobo.


is there a mobo with the following requirements ?(yours does not fill them)

1. Supports Intel E2160
2. Is Sub 3K cost
3. Supports DDR2 800 RAM in Dual Channel Configuration
4. Has a PCIe 16x Slot
5. Can be used with stock cooling to take E2160 to 2.4 GHz or 2.2 GHz
Intel DG31. Get the OEM piece for 3.05k Supports all LGA 775 procs. and possibly with a bios upgrade can support 45nm chips too. Has onboard x3100 and also a pci-e x16, x1, pci slots.

[nish_higher]

P5GC-MX for ~2.5k
get DG31 OEM

[infra_red_dude]

Its gonna be either IP35E + E8200 or DG31 + E6550 for me. Going tom monring to get it.

Can anyone temme how are Samsung 20x SATA octo-edge enabled drives? Any problems? Can I buy them?

Getting Viewsonic 1912wb DVI for about 8.6k+. Thats the lowest I could find anywhere.

[Pathik]

Palit n73v @ gautham.

[janitha]

Its gonna be either IP35E + E8200 or DG31 + E6550 for me. Going tom monring to get it.

Can anyone temme how are Samsung 20x SATA octo-edge enabled drives? Any problems? Can I buy them?

Getting Viewsonic 1912wb DVI for about 8.6k+. Thats the lowest I could find anywhere.

Using the 203B model bought some 5 months back for 1.43K. Very good performance till now. Earlier I was not at all in favour of SS but when I went to buy one, it was the only one available and the reviews @ cdfreaks was good. I think you will get the newer and better 203D at a much lower cost now, may be 1.1K.

[Choto Cheeta]

@infra_red_dude

IP35-E :D

[nish_higher]

yea man, out of those 2 configs E8200 + IP35 make the best thing..

[MetalheadGautham]

Whats the cost of P5GC-MX?


Intel DG31. Get the OEM piece for 3.05k Supports all LGA 775 procs. and possibly with a bios upgrade can support 45nm chips too. Has onboard x3100 and also a pci-e x16, x1, pci slots.
but intel boards don't overclock. I specifically need a mobo in which I can OC a E2160. Otherwise it beats the perpose of going intel in the first place
Its gonna be either IP35E + E8200 or DG31 + E6550 for me. Going tom monring to get it.

Can anyone temme how are Samsung 20x SATA octo-edge enabled drives? Any problems? Can I buy them?

Getting Viewsonic 1912wb DVI for about 8.6k+. Thats the lowest I could find anywhere.
go for the former IP35-E + E8200. You can even OC it and its a very decent configuration, as it can easily be a part of a budget gaming rig. If you plan to game in the near future, it will really be a worthy investment.

and all samsung drives are "Octo Edge" drives, though I neither care nor know what that means. You might want to try a lite-on DVD-RAM drive(that has support for DVD-RAM, DVD+-RW(DL), DVD+-R(DL), CD-R and CD-EW) which also has lightscribe. A similar philips drive if you get one will only make things better.

and if you don't mind, please check whats the current price of branded DVD media(HP, Moser Baer, Sony, Samsung, and the like) in SP Road. I am planning to buy a consignment of DVD+R discs in order to backup my hard drive. Your trouble will be appritiated.

[infra_red_dude]

IP35E + E8200 combo will cost me 3.5k over DG31 + E6550. So I'll make the decision on spot tom :)

Samsung OEM Drives don't haf the octo-edge stickers on them.

All branded DVD writable media are Rs.15 (or at the most Rs.20). Unless you buy like 1000 of them there won't be much difference in price.

[Choto Cheeta]

IP35E + E8200 combo will cost me 3.5k over DG31 + E6550. So I'll make the decision on spot tom

why not a lower C2D with it ?? it will allow gr8 OverClock :lol:

[MetalheadGautham]

IP35E + E8200 combo will cost me 3.5k over DG31 + E6550. So I'll make the decision on spot tom :)

Samsung OEM Drives don't haf the octo-edge stickers on them.

All branded DVD writable media are Rs.15 (or at the most Rs.20). Unless you buy like 1000 of them there won't be much difference in price.
just 3.5K extra and it will last for an year or two longer. Its worth it.

and DVD media are Rs. 15 ? The reason I asked was because a friend of mine works at Amkette bangalore factory and can get media at Rs. 10(DVD). Is it worth it ?

Palit n73v @ gautham.
Isn't n73 a mobile phone ?:confused:

[kalpik]

Can anyone temme how are Samsung 20x SATA octo-edge enabled drives? Any problems? Can I buy them?

The writer is AWESOME! I have it. You'll get the SH-S203D model for about 1100-1200 bucks :)

[Pathik]

As choto said.. Avoid a dg31 like plague.. Get a ip35e even if u need to get the e4500..

[infra_red_dude]

Yeah, will most prolly settle for IP35-E. Thanks for th feedback on Samsung writer :)

@Metalhead
Never used Amkette so no idea about the reliability.

[gxsaurav]

^^^ Make sure you stay away from E4xxx & E2xx series CPU as they do not support VT.

I am also buying my new computer tomorrow....we are gonna have same birthday for our computers :D

[psmontte]

P5GC-MX for ~2.5k
get DG31 OEM

Can this be overclocked? And how good is the performance?

I think at this price only JETWAY boards are only good.

The writer is AWESOME! I have it. You'll get the SH-S203D model for about 1100-1200 bucks :)

Recent winner digit.

IP35E + E8200 combo will cost me 3.5k over DG31 + E6550. So I'll make the decision on spot tom :)

Samsung OEM Drives don't haf the octo-edge stickers on them.

All branded DVD writable media are Rs.15 (or at the most Rs.20). Unless you buy like 1000 of them there won't be much difference in price.

Are you getting this from Chd.

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ Nope, Bangalore.

[psmontte]

Yeah, will most prolly settle for IP35-E. Thanks for th feedback on Samsung writer :)

@Metalhead
Never used Amkette so no idea about the reliability.

Isn't ABIT IP35-Pro a better choice for E8XXX?

[infra_red_dude]

Thats expensive man! the -E version is lighter on the wallet. However there is no SATA - achi/ide setting in bios in the E version. But apparently there are workarounds for this.

[Maverick340]

I need to buy a printer ( i have a 5.0 megapixel cannon digicam) and would want to go in for a mid range photo printer. After some research I get the feeling that Epson is good in terms of photo quality. But how is the support and availibility of cartridge/ink color ? Also anythink i should look for in a photo printer. Will check gamut and color range .. but anyother speceific things i should look ? Price budget (under 4 - 4.5 k )
Edit : Will buy the Epson R380 or Canon iP4300

[subratabera]

At last I decided to upgrade my system. Its an old system with Celeron 1GHz Processor and 256MB RAM. Now I want something latest. Something which can be upgraded later. I will use this system basically for experimenting virtualization on Linux(Ubuntu) platform. My budget is Rs. 7500(+/- 1000).

Here is what I want...

Intel C2D Processor + Motherboard
1GB RAM (will add more later)
Cabinet
[DVD writer (optional)]

And what I already have.

One 80 GB HDD (ATA)
one 40 GB HDD (ATA)
(I want to use both so the mobo must have two IDE connectors)

DVD-ROM
CD-RW
KB+Mouse
15" CRT Monitor
APC ES-500 UPS

Please suggest me the best possible configuration. (Here is a possible configuration.) (http://www.tech2.com/india/topstuff/desktop-pcs/a-budget-pc-under-rs-25000/29081/0)

Thanks in advance.

Subrata Bera.

[sagargv]

both hdd's + dvdrom(i guess its not sata) = not possible u'll need 3 IDE connectors.

xfx 630i - 3.5k
try to manage a c2d e4300 . . .cant go less than this. . u'll have to get a amd .

[subratabera]

No its not sata. That's why I need two ide connectors. One for DVD-ROM and one for the HDDs(Master+Slave).

[infra_red_dude]

Got the components today.

Core2Duo E8200 - 7.3k
DG33 - 4.6k
1GB x 2 DDR2 800= 2k
BIG 8500GT 256MB = 2.75k
20x SATA Samsung SH-203b/d = 1.1k
Viewsonic va1926w DVI = 8.6k

The market suddenly has shortage of E6550 (or is it a tactic to push E8200?) Coz everywhere I asked they mentioned shortage of E6550.

And in just 2 dayz the price of IP35-E has shot up from 5k to 6k!!! I can't believe it.. every single dealer!

Viewsonic Va1912wb is outta market too :( Nowhere I could get the above mentioned components... Anyways I'm not planning to overclock this system as it'll mosty be used by my family for general purpose computing.

@subrata
you won't find 2 ide connectors in any modern mobo today. Best is to ditch the ide optical drive and get a sata one.

[subratabera]

@subrata
you won't find 2 ide connectors in any modern mobo today. Best is to ditch the ide optical drive and get a sata one.
No problem at all. I will add it to my system sooner or later.

[Maverick340]

Bought a Epson R230 (Rs 5600) . So how do i write a printer review :P ?

[nish_higher]

^ with some pics of the printer,ease of use,pic quality,etc.price of cartridges,etc.

coming to the topic-
@ infra both that Abit IP35 and 6550 are in shortage almost everywhere.did u check lynx in chd?

[infra_red_dude]

@nish
No bhai. Its been quite a while since I visited chd :D

[raj_v1982]

Here is my new finalised system configuration


Core 2 Quad 2.4, 1066mhz 2mb*4 cache memory - 10,500
Intel Original D33FBC motherboard - 4,800
2 gb ddr2 800 mhz Ram - 2,050
250 gb segate hardish sata - 2,600
Wireless keyboard+mouse - 1,300
Lg dvd writter - 1,200
Mercury atx cabinet - 1,100
17 inch tft monitor LG - 8,600
XFX 8500 gt 256mb - 3,200
creative insprire 5.1 - 3,200
audigy soundcard - 1,550
pixel view tv tuner card - 1,000

total - 41,150

ADD 4% VAT TAX

[dOm1naTOr]

audigy2 value card for 2k sounds better.

[Choto Cheeta]

Intel Original D33FBC motherboard - 4,800

ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 5200/- + VAT :)

audigy soundcard - 1,550

Do you really need it ??

pixel view tv tuner card - 1,000

does it come with remote ?? and is it Vista Logo certified ??

17 inch tft monitor LG - 8,600

ViewSonic VA1912WB DVI is Rs. 8200/- + TAX
ViewSonic VG1930wm is Rs. 9200/- + TAX

:)

250 gb segate hardish sata - 2,600

try to get WD Cavier Se 16 which is a 16mb buffer hdd @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX :)

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ TFT is very costly as Saurav mentioned. Secondly 8500GT is available for about 2.75k in bangalore.

@Saurav
Hey how is 1926W? I couldn't get 1912wb hence had to get it.
Btw, the prices in Kolkata sure are cheaper than here in Bangalore.

[Choto Cheeta]

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcddisplays/valueseries/VA1926w/

not bad but how much is the asking price ??

[infra_red_dude]

Already got it. 8.6k, same price with every dealer. 1912wb is nowhere available :(

I think kolkata has the cheapest prices!

[raj_v1982]

ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 5200/- + VAT :)

Do you really need it ??

does it come with remote ?? and is it Vista Logo certified ??

ViewSonic VA1912WB DVI is Rs. 8200/- + TAX
ViewSonic VG1930wm is Rs. 9200/- + TAX

:)

try to get WD Cavier Se 16 which is a 16mb buffer hdd @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX :)

Choto Cheeta Thank U for your suggestion :p

I don't know anything about motherboards So i am moving on with that original intel motherboard :-|

Yes i realy need the audigy soundcard, coz i hate those onboard sound :cry:

Yes the tv tunercard has remote but need to clarify with vista certificate :neutral:

I heared that viewsonic monitor brightness and contrast is not good. So moving to LG or Samsung mist :)

I will ask my dealer for WD Cavier Se 16 hdd :)

[infra_red_dude]

Static contrast ratio is a bit low for 1926w. Btw, how much will a DVI cable cost?

[Choto Cheeta]

Static contrast ratio is a bit low for 1926w. Btw, how much will a DVI cable cost?

Rs. 660 here at Kolkata :|

[hellgate]

need new mobo and proccy.
budget is 5-6k for the combo.
wat i hv at present is:
2*1GB DDR2 667
2*320GB HDD
650w CoolerMaster PSU
XFX 8800GTS 320MB

so the new mobo and proccy will be combined with these hardware.
pc will me mainly used for gaming (its a makeshift pc,will get a new 1 in 3-4 months or will directly upgrade to Nehalem).
so plz suggest accordingly.also i'll oc.

[gxsaurav]

Eureka, I bought the new computer atlast. After 4.5 years of efficient usage of my old workstation I bought this.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 (http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm).
Intel DG31PR Motherboard (http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG31PR/index.htm)
2X1 GB Kingston KVR667D2N5/1G DDR2 667 RAM
Zebronics Lava Cabinet with 500W SMPS.
Western Digital WD1600AAJS 160 GB SATA 2 Hard disk with 8 MB Buffer. (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=254)
Samsung SH-SH203D DVD Writer (http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=informationtechnology&type=opticaldiscdrives&subtype=dvdwriters&model_cd=SH-S203D/IDBH)
Pinnacle PCTV Tuner kit for Windows Vista (http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/uk/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Vista+Companion/PCTV+Tuner+Kit+for+Windows+Vista.htm)

I gave the following configuration of my old PC as buy back.

Pentium 4 3.06 GHz
Intel 865GBF Motherboard
2X1 GB DDR2 400 RAM
Frontech Pace cabinet
Samsung 80 GB SATA 1 HD
Samsung optical drive
Pinnacle PCTV 100i TV Tuner.

Along with this I had to pay Rs 8k

I will buy a GeForce 8600GT with 256 MB RAM, LCD Monitor & a Cooler Master SMPS next month.

However, the most important thing....I DID NOT NEED TO REINSTALL WINDOWS :D

I connected my old harddisk to copy data from old to new harddisk but forgot to change the boot drive, so instead of my new SATA hard disk Windows booted from my old 80 hard disk & to my shock, it worked fine. I m using the old windows Vista in Old HD to write this post at this moment.

But that's not all, since I found that Windows is working, I made a Windows Complete PC backup using Windows Backup & restore center & then booted using the Vista DVD & copied the old installation image to new hard disk's C Drive & it again..worked fine :D

Most important, I did not need to migrate my license. Windows told me it need to reactivate, I just clicked to reactivate & my new motherboard & HD have the old license working just fine :D

[infra_red_dude]

However, the most important thing....I DID NOT NEED TO REINSTALL WINDOWS :D
Wow!!! :) Thats the next best thing ever happened to man landing on the moon! :D

[gxsaurav]

[/b]Wow!!! :) Thats the next best thing ever happened to man landing on the moon! :D

Lolz...I hope you know, Vista installation on this new machine completes in 17 mins, now this isn't a lot but reinstalling & reconfiguring each & every update takes lots of time specially in my case.

[axxo]

Eureka, I bought the new computer atlast. After 4.5 years of efficient usage of my old workstation I bought this.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 (http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm).
Intel DG31PR Motherboard (http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG31PR/index.htm)
2X1 GB Kingston KVR667D2N5/1G DDR2 667 RAM
Zebronics Lava Cabinet with 500W SMPS.
Western Digital WD1600AAJS 160 GB SATA 2 Hard disk with 8 MB Buffer. (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=254)
Samsung SH-SH203B DVD Writer
Pinnacle PCTV Tuner kit for Windows Vista (http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/uk/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Vista+Companion/PCTV+Tuner+Kit+for+Windows+Vista.htm)


hey gx...congrats on purchase of ur new pc..
btw would you mind posting some benchmark results..preferrably wheatstone & dhrystone performance?

[infra_red_dude]

@GX
How much did you get E6550 and DG31PR for?

[Ankit]

Eureka, I bought the new computer atlast.
I gave the following configuration of my old PC as buy back.

Along with this I had to pay Rs 8k
:D

Great deal saurav, I'd say. Seems that vendors in lucknow are quite co-operative. Can you PM me the address of vendor from where you got such a nice deal?

[samurai3]

I have planed to buy a destop with the following config.I am an mechanical engg. student and Iam intersted in designing.so that i need my pc to be helpfull to me.so i need your help in choosing me the correct brands & model in that brand.....Is the brands i have choosen is correct are any alter should made in it ???????????give me good choose for graphics card and monitor....my budget is about 35k to 40k..including other perpherials...I do little bit of gaming also.....

Configuration: Intel core 2 duo(3.4),
intel's P965 mother board,
1*2 GB DDR2 RAM 667(kingston),
200 or 250GB HDD(seagate),
256MB graphics card(asus en8600GT or GF8500GT,XFX 8600 GT 256 MB ),
LCD moniter 17" TFT(view sonic or samsumg),
TV Tuner card(Leadtek win fast TV2000xp global),
dvd writer(sony DRU 8455),
speakers (2.1 logitech),
cabinet 500 watt (zeberonics),

Iam not sure about the motherboard and graphics card..... pls help me with approx. cost of my pc.....??????

[shaan4u]

hi bro i'm new here & wanna buy a computers so could u plz suggest me d Configurations of a Good Pc & also i need a Computer part's pricelist of Hyderabad City....................................




Thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in advanced

[nil1982]

hi bro i'm new here & wanna buy a computers so could u plz suggest me d Configurations of a Good Pc & also i need a Computer part's pricelist of Hyderabad City....................................




Thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in advanced

Ask with budget and purpose dude. I have been benefited by the experts here, so will be you.

[Pathik]

Great deal saurav, I'd say. Seems that vendors in lucknow are quite co-operative. Can you PM me the address of vendor from where you got such a nice deal?

Damn good deal indeed!
BTW gx u shd hav gotten a e8200.

[drvarunmehta]

I need to assemble a new PC for general everyday use.
I'm deciding between

Intel Pentium E2160
Intel DG31PR mobo

and

AMD Athlon X2 4000+
Asus M2A-VM mobo

If I go with Intel I get a better processor but worse mobo. With AMD I get a worse processor but a better mobo.

I have no need to overclock so only consider stock performance. I'm leaning towards the AMD combo because it has 4 slots for the RAM and better onboard graphics.

Please give me the prices of all the components in Mumbai and suggest which would be a better buy (or give a better alternative).

[shaan4u]

hi bro i'm new here & wanna buy a computers so could u plz suggest me d Configurations of a Good Pc & also i need a Computer part's pricelist of Hyderabad City....................................




Thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in advanced


Price at aroung 20K & need it for surfing d net , some application & games

[MetalheadGautham]

I need to assemble a new PC for general everyday use.
I'm deciding between

Intel Pentium E2160
Intel DG31PR mobo

and

AMD Athlon X2 4000+
Asus M2A-VM mobo

If I go with Intel I get a better processor but worse mobo. With AMD I get a worse processor but a better mobo.

I have no need to overclock so only consider stock performance. I'm leaning towards the AMD combo because it has 4 slots for the RAM and better onboard graphics.

Please give me the prices of all the components in Mumbai and suggest which would be a better buy (or give a better alternative).
jetway 692G + AMD 4000 + 2 x 512 mb dual channel + no graphics card as 1250 is onboard = 2.5 + 2.7 + 0.8 + 0 = 6k

thats the best performance you can get for standard use. the mobo has 1250 onboard, supports dual channel 800mhz, and the proccy is equal to 2160 when used at stock speed and that mobo has 8.2/10 review rating with 8.3/10 score in potential to OC, if you need to in near future. But intel is best for OC. as you don't want to OC, I recomend you my setup.

[shaan4u]

I need d Price list of Computer's for the Hyderabad City .................................... Can anyone provide me

[drvarunmehta]

jetway 692G + AMD 4000 + 2 x 512 mb dual channel + no graphics card as 1250 is onboard = 2.5 + 2.7 + 0.8 + 0 = 6k

thats the best performance you can get for standard use. the mobo has 1250 onboard, supports dual channel 800mhz, and the proccy is equal to 2160 when used at stock speed and that mobo has 8.2/10 review rating with 8.3/10 score in potential to OC, if you need to in near future. But intel is best for OC. as you don't want to OC, I recomend you my setup.
Thanks but I'm going to stick to mobo's from Intel, Asus or MSI only. Can you give me the price for only these parts

Intel Pentium E2160
Intel DG31PR mobo
AMD Athlon X2 4000+
Asus M2A-VM mobo

[ajayashish]

Can someone tell me if P5W DH Deluxe is available in Kolkata or not...

Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi
Asus P5N32E-SLI
Asus P5B-E
Asus P5E3

[raj_v1982]

may i know the lates price in tamilnadu of xfx geforce 8600 gt ????

[gxsaurav]

Sorry for the late reply, I was busy the whole day migrating data of all my hard disks to the new 160 GB hard disk. In the last 2 years my 40 GB external HD is empty for the first time. :D.

hey gx...congrats on purchase of ur new pc..
btw would you mind posting some benchmark results..preferrably wheatstone & dhrystone performance?

Thanx, I m out of touch from the benchmarking stuff, can you tell me how to do the above mentioned benchmark? The only benchmark I got with me right now is Cinebench (As this is the only benchmark I understand http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/10.gif) or Photoshop Filter tests.

The system is really fast & responsive with Vista SP1. Although I am using Onboard Intel GMA X3100 but other then 3ds Max nothing else is slow here. Even 720p HD videos play fine.

How much did you get E6550 and DG31PR for?

Rs 11, 200.

Seems that vendors in lucknow are quite co-operative

Lolz...they are the least co-operative. The vendor is my friend, he opened his shop & sales stuff on our recommendation only & I always buy stuff from him only so he gives me & my friends the best deal possible cos he knows that if he is loosing Rs 1k in my case, then he will earn 10k from the people to whome i recommend his shop....

It's just business.

BTW gx u shd hav gotten a e8200

Nah, I don't need it & neither I had the money to buy it. E6550 is good enough for next 4 years easily. I will upgrade the Memory to 4 GB (maximum supported in my motherboard) with 2 X 2 GB DDR2 800 MHz RAM from Kingston later in about 1 or 1.5 years when prices come down. 32 bit Vista cannot use 4 GB RAM properly, but 32bit Vista + SP1 slipstreamed can see as well as use 4 GB RAM properly. I did not even need to re-activate Windows, it worked fine automatically.

The OS & Applications are now configured properly. I won't be writing a review as review of similar configs are available already everywhere.

The SMPS is a generic 500W SMPS which is doing it's work for now, I will be buying a branded SMPS next month along with Graphics card & LCD Monitor.

My Windows experience index is 3.3 :D, due to the weakest link being the graphics card

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6590/eioh1.jpg

What should be the temprature like? I tried everest to see the temprature but I don't know whether it is showing properly or now cos it shows Aux temprature as 124C, now one thing I know...my room is not at 124 C http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif. These temprature were taken 5 mins after a Cinebench test.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2492/tempratureiz4.jpg

Something good I like in this CPU is on demand clock speed reduction. Just like AMD Cool & Quite, Intel EIST decreces the clock speed to 1,200 MHz when system is under less stress. I am using the stock Intel Fan which I did not expect to be this small, seems like it is made by cooler master OEM.

I m trying to learn RMClock utility to configure the system. What should I do to properly benchmark?

Here are some pics of the CPU, it;s not worth showing righ now as the motherboard is almost empty http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/10.gif

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2263/2309998529_e83a9775af.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/2309997819_a1d3e21884.jpg

[axxo]

Thanx, I m out of touch from the benchmarking stuff, can you tell me how to do the above mentioned benchmark? The only benchmark I got with me right now is Cinebench (As this is the only benchmark I understand http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/10.gif) or Photoshop Filter tests.

The system is really fast & responsive with Vista SP1. Although I am using Onboard Intel GMA X3100 but other then 3ds Max nothing else is slow here. Even 720p HD videos play fine.


My Windows experience index is 3.3 :D, due to the weakest link being the graphics card

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6590/eioh1.jpg



are you sure processor rating is 5.1??

bcoz am getting 5.7 for my overclocked E2160

http://i26.tinypic.com/142va8o.jpg

you can also try running benchmark in pc wizard 2008 for other benchmarks

& what is that cabinet model dude..looks simple & cool

[gxsaurav]

Yup, that's what u see. Maybe I need to upgrade teh BIOS, it is running on BIOS 032 while latest is 042

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^^ What a neat cabinet!:D

Just need to manage those cables!

[axxo]

^ was just about to point it...cable management isnt that good actually

[gxsaurav]

That pic was taken last night, cable management is better now

[gxsaurav]

I just updated the BIOS to latest one from Intel, 0042 along with all new drivers downloaded from Intel Support center, this is my WEI score as shown now...

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/268/eitg5.jpg

[manishjha18]

choto-when are u going to update the 1st page-sorry if i am sounding demanding

[MetalheadGautham]

Thanks but I'm going to stick to mobo's from Intel, Asus or MSI only. Can you give me the price for only these parts

Intel Pentium E2160
Intel DG31PR mobo
AMD Athlon X2 4000+
Asus M2A-VM mobo
jetway is better and cheaper
http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Asus_M2A-VM/551-84949-636-9.html
http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/user_review.jsp?review_id=785


4000+ = 2.7k
2160 = 2.7k
m2a asus = 3k
m2a jetway = 2.5k

[Ankit]

Lolz...they are the least co-operative. The vendor is my friend, he opened his shop & sales stuff on our recommendation only & I always buy stuff from him only so he gives me & my friends the best deal possible cos he knows that if he is loosing Rs 1k in my case, then he will earn 10k from the people to whome i recommend his shop....



Lucky to have such friends... Can you still forward the name/address

[raj_v1982]

may i know the lates price in tamilnadu of xfx geforce 8600 gt ????:?: :?:

[sagargv]

@gx , dont u think a 13.74v for 12 volt is too high ?
what's that aux sensor ? watever it is , i think its gone kaput.

[gxsaurav]

Either the sensor is kaput, or the software is reading wrong. I don't trust these readings.

Aux is room temprature.

[drvarunmehta]

jetway is better and cheaper
http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Asus_M2A-VM/551-84949-636-9.html
http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/user_review.jsp?review_id=785


4000+ = 2.7k
2160 = 2.7k
m2a asus = 3k
m2a jetway = 2.5k
Thanks for your help. Are you sure Jetway is a good brand?

I don't want to regret not buying Asus just to save 500 bucks.

[Choto Cheeta]

Can someone tell me if P5W DH Deluxe is available in Kolkata or not...

Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi
Asus P5N32E-SLI
Asus P5B-E
Asus P5E3

available but you may have to pay extra cash for some thing which isnt very populer :lol: anyway whats your need ?? I mean these boards have different purpose so whats the need ??

[MetalheadGautham]

Thanks for your help. Are you sure Jetway is a good brand?

I don't want to regret not buying Asus just to save 500 bucks.
jetway is supposed to be one of the best at this priceband.
and if you saw my links, you may notice that guys gave slightly more points to jetway than asus, making jetway the best and asus just below it.

[ajayashish]

available but you may have to pay extra cash for some thing which isnt very populer :lol: anyway whats your need ?? I mean these boards have different purpose so whats the need ??

Hey... i think u are from Kolkata...

i want a good motherboard... i will be buying a Q6600 with a XFX 512MB GeForce 8800GT card... I might go for 4GB or 8GB ram.,,, but need a good motherboard... i am not a overclocker and will use the factory settings... I just want the board to be upgradable so if it has a SLI feature then it will help... but if i can get a better board without SLI then i can sacrifuce on that as well...

My main purpose is working in 3D applications and ofcouse games...

[Choto Cheeta]

So I guess not a good time to buy a SLi Setup :( P5N32-E SLi is right now the best one can get in Kolkata :( where as its older 680i SLi however the 780i SLi is already put but no board can be found in India :(

anyway, its old that doesnt mean its bad...

My suggestion when you are spending so much money, Get the system just 45 to 60 days letter if possible as by the 45nm Quads will be in the market :)

i am not a overclocker and will use the factory settings...

Personal question, why wont u OC ?? if no OC, think for Spider Platform :) as will offer better value for money compare to Intel setup :lol:

[ajayashish]

So I guess not a good time to buy a SLi Setup :( P5N32-E SLi is right now the best one can get in Kolkata :( where as its older 680i SLi however the 780i SLi is already put but no board can be found in India :(

anyway, its old that doesnt mean its bad...

My suggestion when you are spending so much money, Get the system just 45 to 60 days letter if possible as by the 45nm Quads will be in the market :)



Personal question, why wont u OC ?? if no OC, think for Spider Platform :) as will offer better value for money compare to Intel setup :lol:


Actually i will not be able to wait long as this machine is due for last 3 months already and i need to get a new one as my desktop is really in bad state... and i am giving a lot of load on my Laptop.... please suggest me what to do... and abt overclocking i have no idea how to do that and where to start that from...

[Choto Cheeta]

and abt overclocking i have no idea how to do that and where to start that from...

really simple, all you do is, go in BIOS change the FSB from Default 1066 to a higher one :lol: thats it :lol:

problem ?? it will process in higher speeds so would generate heat, solution, run software like Core Temp or PC Wizard which will allow you to monitor the temps, and these Core2 processors are real good over clockers, I can run Q6600 with ABiT IP35-Pro at 3 GHz stable by just increasing the FSB from 1066 MHz to 1333 MHz no other cooling hardwarre is needed !!!

FSB = External Clock x 4

Clock Speed = FSB x Multiple

Default FSB is 1066 MHz so which means External Clock of 266 MHz so your Q6600 with multiple 9 runs at 266x9 2400 MHz or 2.4 GHz :)

anyway... Get your self the P5N32-E SLi :) but at this point buy Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140 which is Rs. 2300/- + TAX in market, wait for the 45 nms they will be worth to wait :) so when they come, just replace the procy with Q9450 or higher if u can afford :D

[nish_higher]

^ overclocking is easy and he can guide u pretty well.. :D
boards without Sli are good in overclocking only and some in stability too.frankly u can put any board at present for 3yrs high end use if ur other components are good.and as you are buying good ram and proccy + future sli-its not gonna be an issue with u.
780i is available on erodov for 14.5k i think.but its not worth spending that much.P5N32sli rocks

[Choto Cheeta]

780i is available on erodov for 14.5k i think.but its not worth spending that much.P5N32sli rocks

No local warranty :( thats the problem and really just what 780i allows over 680i is 3 way SLi PCI 2.0 and native 45nm support but with just a BIOS update u get the 5 nm support even now days asus is releasing the baords with up2date BIOS :lol:

[nish_higher]

yup..and from my own experience there was nothing like "OMG!!" in 780i..except for the boards sexy design and cooler :lol:
and i can never understand the use of standard capacitors on these boards..why do they do that?

[gxsaurav]

My main purpose is working in 3D applications and ofcouse games...

If u r a student then get the same 8800GT card, if you r professional into 3D Applications then skip it & get a quadro

[ajayashish]

So u want me to buy the rest with a low end processor ... and then upgrade it later... what will be the cost of that processor when it comes to the market

If u r a student then get the same 8800GT card, if you r professional into 3D Applications then skip it & get a quadro

what is a Quadro... i also like playing games...

[Choto Cheeta]

expected Rs. 12000/- + 4% VAT how ever as the replace the Q6600 it would come down real soon to the 10.9k mark :)

[ajayashish]

If u r a student then get the same 8800GT card, if you r professional into 3D Applications then skip it & get a quadro

expected Rs. 12000/- + 4% VAT how ever as the replace the Q6600 it would come down real soon to the 10.9k mark :)


Sorry i have a lot of questions as i am a NOOB in all this... will this processor work with the other components i will be buying./.. and what do u recommend buying a SLI board... and also will 8GB ram work with Windows and this motherboard efficiently...

[gxsaurav]

what is a Quadro... i also like playing games...

nVidia Quadro are professional graphics cards made for AutoCAD, 3Ds Max, Maya & other professional OpenGL graphics applications. The gaming performance sux on Quadro as they are not made for gaming.

[ajayashish]

nVidia Quadro are professional graphics cards made for AutoCAD, 3Ds Max, Maya & other professional OpenGL graphics applications. The gaming performance sux on Quadro as they are not made for gaming.

Well then it is a problem.. i am a game lover and like playing them a lot... just completed Crysis and waiting for the new machine to play Company of heros

[nish_higher]

i can confirm that 8gb ram Corsair 4096-6400-C5DHX works on this board with Vista X64 but we have to raise northbridge voltage to prevent all crashes..trust me 8gb ram makes no sense for a 3d artist\gamer.it will be helpful if you are into multimedia-esp audio
yes proccy will work with those components :)

[Choto Cheeta]

Sorry i have a lot of questions as i am a NOOB in all this...

we are all noobe in some field :D

will this processor work with the other components i will be buying...

yes...

and what do u recommend buying a SLI board...

best would be 780i off course but u cant get in here in India, so any 680i board which I would say reflects to ASUS P5N32-E SLi

In india by chance u may get ASUS P5N-D (http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=627&l4=0&model=2033&modelmenu=2) but then again price would be real high for u :lol:

[ajayashish]

i can confirm that 8gb ram Corsair 4096-6400-C5DHX works on this board with Vista X64 but we have to raise northbridge voltage to prevent all crashes..trust me 8gb ram makes no sense for a 3d artist\gamer.it will be helpful if you are into multimedia-esp audio
yes proccy will work with those components :)

then i can stick to 4GB ram... isnt it..

[nish_higher]

^ yea !
@ choto whats the cost of P5N-D?isnt it similar to the new board by MSI?

[Choto Cheeta]

@ choto whats the cost of P5N-D?isnt it similar to the new board by MSI?

Not yet in Kolkata :| expected another 7 dsays to the main distributer which makes 10 days to retail store, hard to provide any idea how ever dealers saying close to P5K-VM :cry:

[ajayashish]

I just saw some reviews abt P5N32-E Sli and sounds good to me...

So finally i am getting one Core Duo processor
Asus P5N32E Board
4GB Corsiar ram if available in Kolkata at 800MHz..
XFX 8800GT 512 GeForce Graphic card
Cooler Master SMPS (600Watts) with cabinet
LightScribe writer (if available in Kolkata)

Any other suggestion... And Choto do u recommend any specific shop in Kolkata...

[monkey]

we are all noobe in some field :D



yes...



best would be 780i off course but u cant get in here in India, so any 680i board which I would say reflects to ASUS P5N32-E SLi

In india by chance u may get ASUS P5N-D (http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=627&l4=0&model=2033&modelmenu=2) but then again price would be real high for u :lol:

EVGA 780i SLI MoBo is already available in India for Rs. 15k. It carries 3 years national warranty too. :)

Check here: http://www.yantraonline.in/ProdDetails.asp?ItemCode=577

[nish_higher]

^ products will be shipped to EVGA in case of any trouble .national warranty is nothing but shipping is free.since EVGA has no roots in india

[monkey]

When I had enquired them I was told that the warranty will be handled in India itself. Actually after enquiring this only had I started to save money for my new rig. ;)

[nish_higher]

^ yea its pretty much the same thing which i told.warranty handled in india=no shipping cost to the user.and guess what-they are acutually selling it for a higher price than erodov.and in case even if u ship it to USA for replacement still total cost (board + replacement) is less than what u pay yantra for the board.

EVGA has no support in india-ask abt that in EVGA forum ;)

[Choto Cheeta]

So finally i am getting one Core Duo processor

Core Duo is not supported by P5N32-E SLi and I dont think there is any Core Duo desktop LGA775 model !!!

why would you want Core Duo ??

4GB Corsiar ram if available in Kolkata at 800MHz..

1 GB Modules are available but no 2 GB Single module from Corsiar in kolkata t any reasonable price... better order from any National Online store !!!

LightScribe writer (if available in Kolkata)

They are !! :) and widelly :D


Any other suggestion...

Why Core Duo man ?? didnt get the point... Get a Pentium Dual Core E2140 and wait for 45nm Q9450 :D

And Choto do u recommend any specific shop in Kolkata...

None :lol: all are same... do take price of all Store which ever offers lowest go with them :)

Usually, Computer World (Balaji) / Vedant are known to offer better price... then again as i said I may get a better price there where as they may try to cheat on u :( so roam around bargain and go with any store which offering better price...

:D

[ajayashish]

1 GB Modules are available but no 2 GB Single module from Corsiar in kolkata t any reasonable price... better order from any National Online store !!!


:D

Do u think i shall order to THEITWARES and get that think shipped to me... i mean 2 X 2GB modules... is that safe...



Why Core Duo man ?? didnt get the point... Get a Pentium Dual Core E2140 and wait for 45nm Q9450 :D

:D

U mean this one right Intel Dual Core
1.6 GHz
E 2140 - 800 FSB/1MB Cache
2600



Any Suggestion of which company Lightscribe writer is good and what is the cost of Blank DVDs and CDs...

also shall i get XFX Gforce card or Asus... and which is better GT or GTX

[Choto Cheeta]

U mean this one right
Intel Dual Core
1.6 GHz
E 2140 - 800 FSB/1MB Cache
2600

Yes E2140, its Intel Pentium Dual Core not Pentium D or Core Duo :(

anyway its Rs. 2300/- + 4% here in Kolkata...

Do u think i shall order to THEITWARES and get that think shipped to me... i mean 2 X 2GB modules... is that safe...

ask in Kolkata 1st :) seee if they can offer you any better deal :) then think of that process !!! ItWares is safe enough..

also shall i get XFX Gforce card or Asus... and which is better GT or GTX

GTX is better :) ASUS would be costlier than XFX !! XFX is fine :)

Any Suggestion of which company Lightscribe writer is good and what is the cost of Blank DVDs and CDs...

They are not lasting much :( any company... 1 year is the waranty and thats it.. I tried all... and I mean it all those brands :( so get any which seems cheaper, these days there is Hype about SAMSUNG SH-SH203D so I bought that one too, but its OK to start with dont know what would happen in long run :lol:

P.S. I buy LaserTras 50 Pack DVDs at Rs. 7.50/- each :) where as Cralion CDs are Rs. 5.75 each when bough 50 pack :)

[ajayashish]

Also i was just reviewing on Q9450 processors and it says everywhere that it will not work on 680i boards and will need minimum of 780... do u think this board will be able to run the new processor....

also if i want to overclock which board do u suggest... Abit p35 Pro or any other

Also do u know where i can get Cooler Master Cabinets

Are this price of LightScribe Medium...

Also do u know the price of XFX 8800GTX card... and what is contained in the bundle...

[Choto Cheeta]

also if i want to overclock which board do u suggest... Abit p35 Pro or any other

Yup :D but there wont be any SLI in that :(

I got my hands to one IP35-Pro (http://www.chotocheeta.com/2008/02/10/quick-look-review-at-performance-motherboard-abit-ip35-pro/) and seemed to be a damn good over clocker :)

Also i was just reviewing on Q9450 processors and it says everywhere that it will not work on 680i boards and will need minimum of 780... do u think this board will be able to run the new processor....

Opps no practical exp there how ever, read this,

LGA775 Intel® 45nm Processor Ready
This motherboard supports the latest Intel 45nm CPU which introduces new micro-architecture features for greater performance at a given frequency, up to 50% larger L2 caches, and expanded power management capabilities for new levels of energy efficiency.

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=397&model=1459&modelmenu=1

So as poer ASUS it will !!!

[ajayashish]

This is where i read it...

http://www.evga.com/forums/printable.asp?m=210074

Also do u know where i can get Cooler Master Cabinets

Are this price of LightScribe Medium...

Also do u know the price of XFX 8800GTX card... and what is contained in the bundle...

[dOm1naTOr]

8800GTX? its by every means getting outdated [for the price i mean]
get 8800GTS 512MB[some 16~18k] or 1GB. Or if u have 22k to spend, then get ATI HD 3870X2-the most powerful single card out there nd almost as powerful as two GTX in SLI.

[Choto Cheeta]

^^

Q6600 + IP35-Pro + ATI HD 3870X2 + 4 GB RAM would be a nice combination :D

[nish_higher]

where in india to buy ddr3 1333mhz\1600mhz ram?
afaik only 1066 ones are available :|

[ajayashish]

^^

Q6600 + IP35-Pro + ATI HD 3870X2 + 4 GB RAM would be a nice combination :D


Now u are again confusing me....

I wanted to take a Gforece card... dont u recommend that... and then again Q6600... do u want me to wait for the new processors or buy this one

[j1n M@tt]

^^y do u guys always recommend GeForce?!!......is it just b'coz u r a fan or something??.....anyway I just simply asked, make ur own decision.

HD series from ATi r the most powerful when comes to core architecture...but they were not having gud drivers and support from game developer at first. But now datz old story....they started releasing better drivers wich in turn shows a gr8 improvement in performance.......nd they always beats nVidia when it comes to VFM.

[ajayashish]

^^y do u guys always recommend GeForce?!!......is it just b'coz u r a fan or something??.....anyway I just simply asked, make ur own decision.

HD series from ATi r the most powerful when comes to core architecture...but they were not having gud drivers and support from game developer at first. But now datz old story....they started releasing better drivers wich in turn shows a gr8 improvement in performance.......nd they always beats nVidia when it comes to VFM.

Well i am not a fan or anything... but there are many games which we are unable to play on my friends ATI setup... so i only prefer GeForce

[keith_j_snyder2]

^Dude relax!
All he is suggesting is a decent config.
Ok...let me give u a decent config.

2x2GB RAM is fine.
A-bit IP-35 Pro is good.
Go for MSI 8800GTS 512MB OC(heard that @ 14K) - U don't really need a monster (3870X2) in ur rig...do ya?
As far as processor - If u want a Quad core then the only budget option is Q6600. Acc. to me u should wait for Q9450. By that time use E2140 and sell it after u get Q9450.

Now the actual thing comes is power requirements.

^^y do u guys always recommend GeForce?!!......is it just b'coz u r a fan or something??.....anyway I just simply asked, make ur own decision.

HD series from ATi r the most powerful when comes to core architecture...but they were not having gud drivers and support from game developer at first. But now datz old story....they started releasing better drivers wich in turn shows a gr8 improvement in performance.......nd they always beats nVidia when it comes to VFM.

Yeah u are right. HD is most powerful series. But u forgot 1 thing. It is more power consuming that 8 or 9 series.
And its not power that matters. Its about value for performance.

If i was not concerned about power then i myself would have gone for 3870X2 and if i have load of cash.

[ajayashish]

what if i take Asus P5N32-E SLI/ or other good option there... (if i want to have a sli setup in future)
Also does both board gurantee to support the new processors.. and how much watts smps...

[j1n M@tt]

@keith_j_snyder2

who told u HD3 series is so power consuming??.....only in digit form I hav heard they r so power hungry.....dunno y??!!!

[gxsaurav]

^^y do u guys always recommend GeForce?!!......is it just b'coz u r a fan or something??.....anyway I just simply asked, make ur own decision.

nVidia based cards are easily available in market compared to ATI & they heat less. That's it.

[j1n M@tt]

^^heats less???!!!......lolz........am not talking abt old ATi cards, nd if u don't know, nVidia cards heats more nd can't handle much heat; for example take 8800GT........can u overclock it with its stock cooling???.....nd look at 9800X2, its cooling kit due to heating pushes air like in a jet plane:rolleyes:.


NB:hey guys, I don't want to start a fight club here:(........everyone hav right to select their own favorite products, so u guys choose wat u feel best. I just pointed out to u guys, ok? nd plz do some homework before blindly jumping to solutions; either read carefully throu professional benchmarking sites or do ur own benchmarking and take decisions....

[lambo]

where in india to buy ddr3 1333mhz\1600mhz ram?
afaik only 1066 ones are available :|

You can find some here: http://www.yantraonline.in/Product.asp?SubCatId=60

[nish_higher]

http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/28a.gifCorsair XMS for 22000!!!.for that much money i can buy a whole new PC http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/17a.gif
the same thing on newegg costs 240$ ..guess i now know where to order http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/4.gif

i think even Intel BOXDX38 is not available in india..or is it?

[Choto Cheeta]

@ajayashis

the comment was not ment for you...

I still stand by what I have recommended you to get...

E2140 + P5N32-E SLi + XFX 8800 GT 512 MB now about RAM, yes Crosier 1 GB module of 667 MHz would be fine for your RIG as 800 MHz without any heavy OC would be really a waste of money !!!

[BULLZI]

@choto

getting my Asus Maximus Formula + HD 3870x2 probably next Tuesday.
Total 13000 + 22500
Also ordered two games COD 4 and Gears Of War.

[ajayashish]

@ajayashis

the comment was not ment for you...

I still stand by what I have recommended you to get...

E2140 + P5N32-E SLi + XFX 8800 GT 512 MB now about RAM, yes Crosier 1 GB module of 667 MHz would be fine for your RIG as 800 MHz without any heavy OC would be really a waste of money !!!

Can i do overclocking on this board as well... and what is the price difference between GT and GTS... and which is better... i was seeing the 2X2GB Corsiar 800MHz module on ITwares... and was planning to get that from them.... and where can i get cooler master cabinet in kolkata...

[gxsaurav]

^^heats less???!!!......lolz........am not talking abt old ATi cards, nd if u don't know, nVidia cards heats more nd can't handle much heat; for example take 8800GT........can u overclock it with its stock cooling???.....nd look at 9800X2, its cooling kit due to heating pushes air like in a jet plane

See, that I know about the high end cards but I am talking about the mid-range cards. Judging by the benchmarks, a 9600GT gives more performance then Radeon 3650 but also heats a lot & is costly. Like I asked you, what is the approx cost of Radeon 3650? I am going to check how it works in 3ds Max etc, if there is no view port anomaly then I am buying a Radeon 3650

[Choto Cheeta]

and what is the price difference between GT and GTS...

not much but the new GT is better value for money :)

i was seeing the 2X2GB Corsiar 800MHz module on ITwares...

TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is what offered at 7k at ITwares :) ask Kolkata vendors if they have it or not...

and where can i get cooler master cabinet in kolkata

stores would have catalogue so as you select any, they can bring it for you :)

@choto

getting my Asus Maximus Formula + HD 3870x2 probably next Tuesday.
Total 13000 + 22500
Also ordered two games COD4 and Gears Of War

wish I could join u :lol:

[j1n M@tt]

@gx

me too ws talking abt mig-range card, d HD3850 nd u can get it for better price at IT Wares.

I haven't checked the reason price of HD3650 after d latest price cut from ATi.....it will be around 4-6k

[dOm1naTOr]

www.theitwares.com
hasnt been updated for last 1 month

[ajayashish]

any suggestions on how much power for the SMPS... and also did u see that site i posted abt the non compatibility of 860 boards with the new processors

[gxsaurav]

@gx

me too ws talking abt mig-range card, d HD3850 nd u can get it for better price at IT Wares.

I haven't checked the reason price of HD3650 after d latest price cut from ATi.....it will be around 4-6k

Let's talk about this in the graphics card thread, shell we.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Yes man!
U are right about the HD 3850 that it generates less heat and requires less power but this is not same with the 3870X2. It does require helluva power!

We are talking about the better value for money and performance.

3850 is a good card and it also gives good frame rates, the the problem comes when AA is turned on!

I have come across many benchmarks and i noticed that nVidia is great with AA+AF "ON", whereas ATi S***s when it comes to AA+AF.

ATi cards aren't widely available in INDIA compared to ATi but if u are buying from newegg or something then its good to buy.

Besides ATi cards are expensive in INDIA due to lack of availability.

[dOm1naTOr]

@ajayashish (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=21299)
get the corsair HD 620. Its very gud one and can handle tow mid~high end cards[8800GT,9600GT,HD 3850]in SLI.
if u are into SLI ing high end cards[8800GTS, 3870X2], then u shud get atleast an 800+w PSU which wud set u back 10k+

8800GT MSi is the cheapest one @ 12.5k
and 8800GTS 512 comes at 15~16k from MSI. GTS is better.
But if u are into SLI ing two 8800GT, then i wud suggest a single HD 3870 X2 @ 22k which consumes less power than 8800GT SLi, nd heats less nd has slightly better performance.
But 8800GTS SLi will be more powerful.

[ajayashish]

Well i will better go for 512MB 8800GTS XFX or MSI... can someone tell me the price of both and also if both the cards are available in Kolkata or not... and what is there in the BUNDLE

Also will go for Cooler Master 600Watts SMPS

[go4saket]

I need a basic computer for a 12 Yr old kid. I need an advice in the matter of which motherboard should I choose. The machine would be used for basic computing, Internet surfing, casual gaming (not high end games) and stuff. No over clocking features required. As I am not planning to use any GFX card, please recommend me a motherboard with decent onboard graphics, as many PCI slots possible & online Ethernet. Onboard WiFi if possible.

[gxsaurav]

^^^^ Core 2 Duo E2140
XFX 650i motherboard
2X512 MB DDR2 RAM
Windows XP

[desiibond]

I need a basic computer for a 12 Yr old kid. I need an advice in the matter of which motherboard should I choose. The machine would be used for basic computing, Internet surfing, casual gaming (not high end games) and stuff. No over clocking features required. As I am not planning to use any GFX card, please recommend me a motherboard with decent onboard graphics, as many PCI slots possible & online Ethernet. Onboard WiFi if possible.


AMD ATHLON 64 X2 4000+ AM2 Dual Core Processor (javascript:PDetails('1523')) Rs. 2,750
Asus M2A VM HDMI : Rs.4k
2x1Gb Transcend DDR2 667MHz: Rs.1050 x2 = Rs. 2100
Seagate 250Gb Sata2 HDD: Rs. 2640
Samsung 19" LCD 940NM: Rs. 10400
or
Samsung 17" LCD 740NM: Rs. 9000
or
Viewsonic 17" LCD: Rs.7950
or
Samsung 17" flat CRT: Rs. 5800

Sony 20x DVD Writer: Rs.1480
APC 500va UPS: Rs. 2700
Microsoft optical desktop: Rs.750 (k/b + mouse)
Logitech X-230 2.1 speakers
or Logitech X-540 speakers

[go4saket]

Sorry, forgot to mention that I want to go for a Intel C2D only. So a mobo for the same would be required...

[Choto Cheeta]

Sorry, forgot to mention that I want to go for a Intel C2D only. So a mobo for the same would be required...

Whats the Budget ??

As GX already have given a good config,

E2140
XFX 630i 7150
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz
160 GB SATA

but then again whats the budget ??

[desiibond]

^^. Yes, For C2D, that's a good config (and powerful too)
Saw someone selling Creative Live! 5.1 sound card for Rs.650/-. Do some bargaining and get that card. It has Dolby and DTS decoder and you can have a dolby home theatre using that card with Logitech X-540 speakers.

[Gigacore]

Which is the cheapest AGP 8x Card available in the market? (nVidia)

[Choto Cheeta]

6200 / 7300 is there around Rs. 2200/- !!!

[Gigacore]

thanks choto, 6200 user TC, what about 7300 ?

edit: Uses

[keith_j_snyder2]

Not every 6200 uses TC!
But 7300 for sure that it doesn't use it!

[infra_red_dude]

7300, if available would be costly. AGP is extinct. So if you find one you may hafta shell out about 4k for it.

[ajayashish]

I asked this before but sorry forgot... which is better GT GTX or GTS...

[desiibond]

Go for 8800GT or wait for 9x series

[hellgate]

Gtx>gts>gt

[ajayashish]

Then why was i recommended GTS instead of GT and why is price of GTS more than GT

[karanchaphekar]

i am going to puchase a new pc next week

my budget is 40K + the cost i get from selling my old pc

my new config is

e8200 wolfdale
ABit IP35-E
8800gt(suggest manufacture i think msi)
ram 2gb kingstan vs transand vs crosair:confused:
300gb hdd
dvd writer liteon??
zebronics cabinet without smps peace
smps powersafe 500W
moniter crt 17" better for gaming
altech lansing atp3
tv tuner internal (i dont remeber the model but it was in december digit issue)is it dtv 1800:confused:
a mfd canon mp160

tell me prices for above

this is my current comuters configuration which i am going to sell tell its price also

p4 1.7
msi motherboard
128+256 sdram
15" moniter crt
hp scanner not working properly
hp printer not working at all
ati radon 9200 128mb
lan card
stabilizer
ups

reply asap it is urgent

[ajayashish]

I think XFX 8800GT is better as i see in some reviews... also u can get a bundled game with that probably Company of Heros...

[dOm1naTOr]

@ajayashish (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=21299)
coz, GT seems to have better bang for the buck thought GTS is more powerful. The difference is clearly visible at higher resolutions with more AA.

if u not gonna use more than 1600*1200, stick to GT.
GTS is far better at resulotions higher than that.
But for 1680*1050 somethin known as extreme HD in games, i wud recomment a GTS.
And GTS 1G is far better than GTS 512.

And 9600GT SLI is a gud option too. 9600GT scales really gud at SLI.

@gigacore
u can have DX 10 AGP cards from ATI.
the HD 2400 is for some 3~3.5k and performs head to head with 7300GT and is DX10 compliant.

[keith_j_snyder2]

MSI 8800GTS 512MB OC edition with custom cooler sellin' @ 14K price range.
Guess it should give a 2nd thought about buying anything!

@karanchaphekar (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=32065)
Refer to www.lynx-india.com or www.theitwares.com

[dOm1naTOr]

@karanchaphekar (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=32065)
i wud say 4k for the old system. If it supported DDR, then u cud have asked for 5k.

[go4saket]

Whats the Budget ??

As GX already have given a good config,

E2140
XFX 630i 7150
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz
160 GB SATA

but then again whats the budget ??

Hey Saurabh! How are you... This PC will be for kids and budget isnt a problem, but obviously wasting money is no point. I was actually planning something like...

Intel C2D E4300
**Motherboard (Whichever you suggest)
Kingston 2 GB RAM
160 GB HDD
Liteon DVD RW
Logitech Wireless Keyboard Mouse Combo
19" WS TFT (Suggest)
Wifi Card
2:1 Speakers (Suggest)

**As the PC shall be used for casual gaming, good onboard GFX is needed with onboard Ethernet and Wifi if possible.

Now tell me, which mobo, TFT and Speakers should I go for. Please also mention the cost of the whole config also so that it will be easy for me to bargain...

[MetalheadGautham]

6200 / 7300 is there around Rs. 2200/- !!!
great ! dats going to greately benifit my friend with 865 chipset.

[gxsaurav]

Hey Saurabh! How are you... This PC will be for kids and budget isnt a problem, but obviously wasting money is no point. I was actually planning something like...

It's a kids PC, C2D E2160 is good enough
XFX 630i has the best onboard graphics right now for Intel Platform
Kingston 2 GB RAM is good, purchase it ones & then never need to do anything.
Get Logitech X-230 Speakers
Get Samsung 19" TFT 932NW

[Edburg]

for onboard graphics better go for AMD 780G which is about 3.5 times powerful that 690G~G35.....its has HD 2400 graphic...

@choto have u spotted any mobo based on this chipset yet ?? whats the price

[Pathik]

^^
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1333&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171

An arvind discovery.. 6k..

[MetalheadGautham]

^^
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1333&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171

An arvind discovery.. 6k..
and equip it with a brisbane core processor to see the meaning of power effitiency

[sagardani]

Hey folks... Are the prices from this site http://www.theitwares.com correct, updated and reliable?? I know they differ from place to place... But can we have just the rough idea of price of any product from this site?

[Pathik]

^^ Yep. Usually the local prices should be +/- 200 from the itwares price.

[Gigacore]

Which gives more performance? A single 2 GB Memory Stick or 1 x 2 ?

[desiibond]

2 is better than 1. Bingo :)

MSI
K9A2 CFAMD® 790X and SB600 ChipsetRs. 6000

MSI
K9A2 PlatinumAMD® 790FX and SB600 Chipset Rs. 9650

platinum:

4 PCI-E X16 slots
2 PCI
Silent Heat Pipe
Key components status hardware monitor.
• Monitor the Dual Core CPU each unit status.
• Optimize System status define.
• Auto speed up with system loading change.

[infra_red_dude]

Which gives more performance? A single 2 GB Memory Stick or 1 x 2 ?
Depends. On single channel mobos its better to buy 1 stuck considering future updates. But if mobo supports Dual Channel then 2 sticks. The perf. difference is obvious.

[Edburg]

^^
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?f...& cat2_no=171

An arvind discovery.. 6k..hey that one has 790X/SB600 chipset...

i was asking 780G/SB700 ones.....they r available for great prices with great features in intl markets....but havent yet seen them in my place

[Gigacore]

hmm ok, thanks guys :)

[sagardani]

I don't have patience to read all 136 pages and too many posts... Im upgrading my PC step-by-step. Right now only buying processor, motherboard, HDD, RAM and cabinet. SO please suggest me this-

*Mobo for Q6600 under Rs.8000

*Brand for RAM (going for 2GB DDR2 @ 800Mhz). By the way is 2GB sufficient for following hard disc?

*Which brand for 500GB Sata2 @ 7200rpm hard disc? (Segate/WD/Samsung/Hitachi,etc)

*Cool, funky cabinet having LED fans, transparent wall(s) for Rs.2000 (+/- 200 will be ok). I saw those of Zebronic (www.theitwares.com) and I liked few of them. But are these of good quality? I last time had Zebronics sexy mouse (worth 200 bucks) and it worked only for about 1 month. Thats why I want to know are Zebronic products of just good looks but poor build quality?

*Good SMPS- I need to buy this because cabinet I liked (Antibiotics) comes without SMPS according to theitwares.com. I don't much have knowledge of SMPS. So Im confused. Why are there different Watts for? I guess 400W is most common. I will buy graphic, sound card and TFT HD monitor in future. So accordingly please guide me for SMPS.

Waiting for reply... :)

[nish_higher]

^Asus P5K-C costs 8500
but if extend your budget a lil for mobo get Abit IP35Pro
Kingston DDR2 800 would be nice and 2gb is sufficient
WD Sata 2 with 16mb buffer for 5100-5200 . if u plan Seagate-i'd recommend the one with 32mb buffer coz the one with 16mb s*cks
A cooler master 460/500W PSU if you own some heavy Gfx card.otherwise a Zebronics 500W P.Platinum.

[sagardani]

^
Abit IP35Pro
Kingston DDR2 800
Seagate 32mb buffer
A cooler master 460/500W PSU
Zebronics 500W P.Platinum.

Can u specify th prices dude...?

And what about Zebronic cabinets?? Are they good in quality?

[nish_higher]

Can u specify th prices dude...?

And what about Zebronic cabinets?? Are they good in quality?

ok..
Asus P5K-C costs 8500 - this is a very future proof kind of a board with both DDR2 and 3 compatibility
Abit IP35 PRo costs 9500 which overclocks a lil more than P5K-C

2 *Kingston DDR 2 800 1gb will cost around 2k
Cooler MAster 460W PSU=2900 and 500W = 3400
WD 500GB Sata II = 5200 (could be 100 rs less too)


Do you own a gfx card?

Zebronics cabinets are good.

[sagardani]

Cooler MAster 460W PSU=2900 and 500W = 3400

Do you own a gfx card?




But will I really need 460W or higher SMPS?? I mean what will be their advantage over 400W?

Yea I own GeForce Fx5200... Why?

[keith_j_snyder2]

500W is better dude!
For paying just 500/- more and u will get a good PSU!

[nish_higher]

But will I really need 460W or higher SMPS?? I mean what will be their advantage over 400W?

Yea I own GeForce Fx5200... Why?

do you plan to use this gfx card in this nw config?

if so , dont change PSU for now.i think the one bundled with the cabinet will work with this card.
a good 460W or higher SMPS is req when you have a powerful gfx card and loads of devices
even a 460W PSU can run a 8800GTS and wont become a bottleneck

[ajayashish]

i went to take the rates today and am now more confused...

XFX 680i LT SLI Rs. 9200
Ausu P5N32-E SLI Not available anywhere in CHandni I have searched more than 20 shops..
Abit P35 Pro Rs. 9300

Intel E2160 Rs. 2450
Intel Q6600 Rs. 10275

Corsair 2X2048MB 800MHz Rs. 6800 (lucky to get this)
Transend 2X2048 800MHz Rs. 4000

XFX 8800GT Algfa Dog Rs. 12150
XFX 8800GT Extreme Rs. 14200
XFX 8800GTS Rs. 17500

Cooler Master Extreme Power 600Watts Rs. 3600
Cooler Master Elite 300 Rs. 3000

Now the motherboard which Chooto suggested me is not available. Please suggest me what to do.. the only option if i need this is getting it shipped to calcutta from bombay or someother place... what to do...

[Ranjya]

Choto Cheeta,
Where are you getting these prises ?

esp ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 4900 /- + TAX

in Pune I am quoted 6000/- for same.

regards,
Ranjit.
P.S: Keep up the good work.:-D

[sagardani]

do you plan to use this gfx card in this nw config?

if so , dont change PSU for now.i think the one bundled with the cabinet will work with this card.
a good 460W or higher SMPS is req when you have a powerful gfx card and loads of devices
even a 460W PSU can run a 8800GTS and wont become a bottleneck

Yea Im gonna use my current gfx with this (most probably and if needed). According to www.theitwares.com there seems no bundled PSU with Zebronic Antibiotics cabinet. So have to make provision because I'll buy mid-high gfx, sound card and TFT HD screen in future.. So I think 500 will be better arrangement. Anyways thanks for your suggestions.

Choto Cheeta,
Where are you getting these prises ?

esp ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 4900 /- + TAX

in Pune I am quoted 6000/- for same.

regards,
Ranjit.
P.S: Keep up the good work.:-D

Hey Ranjya... Which shop in Pune did you ask for these prices?

[Ranjya]

Where do you get the price??

ABiT IP35-E @ Rs. 4900 /- + TAX

In Pune the chap says 6000/- :-(

I enquired with Xpert Computers on J.M Road.
This was told to me by Tirupati Ent chap Shrikant.

[sagardani]

@nish_higher:

I've extended my mobo budget till 10k... Can't stretch above this. (+/- 200 is ok)
So there are following mobos according to theitwares.com-

Intel S975XBX2 @ 9600
XFX nForce 680i-LTSLI @ 10150
ABit IP35 Pro @ 9500
Asus P5K-V and P5KC @ 9450 and 8800 respectively.
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 @ 9400

So which one will you suggest out of them? Is there any other mobo available in India but not listed on website??

Others also throw their opinions...

It will be better if everyone mentions why they are 'NOT' for particular model. Make kind of comparison & discuss pros n cons...

Waiting for reply... :)

[nish_higher]

the prices on that webpage are not updated since one month.expect a little decrease.like 500rupees or so.

Intel S975XBX2 @ 9600 --
this is outdated.no future options

XFX nForce 680i-LTSLI @ 10150 --good board if u plan to use 2gfx cards.quite stable

ABit IP35 Pro @ 9500 -- great board,great overclocking and very stable

P5KC -- future proof.got both ddr2 and ddr3 compatibility.good overclocking
the only trouble is vista installation on some boards (with older bios) - not quite an issue though.latest bios or my own tutorial on how to install vista on this board solves it.also newer lot does not have any issues..i'd recommend this board..

Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 @ 9400--this is also outdated.no use buying this or Intel badaxe 2.
just make sure that you get only good company rams and not those local ones otherwise some of these boards will give errors or freeze-ups

[keith_j_snyder2]

My 100% vote for A-bit IP-35 Pro! Excellent performance and u can ask DARKLORD about its performance.

Check out for nForce 750i chipset options too!

[Gigacore]

how much does a local 3.5" IDE HDD case costs?

[sagardani]

XFX nForce 680i-LTSLI @ 10150 --good board if u plan to use 2gfx cards.quite stable

ABit IP35 Pro @ 9500 -- great board,great overclocking and very stable

P5KC -- future proof.got both ddr2 and ddr3 compatibility.good overclocking
the only trouble is vista installation on some boards (with older bios) - not quite an issue though.latest bios or my own tutorial on how to install vista on this board solves it. also newer lot does not have any issues..i'd recommend this board..

just make sure that you get only good company rams and not those local ones otherwise some of these boards will give errors or freeze-ups

Then Intel and Gigabyte are out of question. OK so you recommend P5KC over IP35 Pro and nForce 680i ? Only because its DDR3 compatible ? Why are you NOT for those others? What about P5Kv ?

keith_j_snyder2 says: to check nForce750i chipset... Is it available? I think it will be expensive than P5KC, 680i and IP35 Pro... Please share your information/knowledge about this.

And about Vista compatibility, which of the mentioned boards have older bios?

My 100% vote for A-bit IP-35 Pro! Excellent performance and u can ask DARKLORD about its performance.

Check out for nForce 750i chipset options too!

Hey dude... I could only find XFX nForce 780i 3-Way SLI on xfxforce.com
Where is 750i ??? And I guess 780i won't fit into my budget.

How much 750i and 780i will cost?

[nish_higher]

750i is available from MSI a