Looking for a ASUS mobo

[src2206]

Hi

I am looking for an ASUS mobo based on Intel Chipset [preferably 945 based] to support C2D E6300 processor. This board should support dual channel memory atleast upto 4 GB, with PCI and PCIe slots. It should be upgradeable and able to support Intel Extreme graphics.

Does any one tell me whether there is any and what can be the price?

Thank you.

[assasin]

why do u wanna buy a 945 mobo for C2D??
better buy the Asus P5B-VM.

[src2206]

Hello assasin
Thank you for your reply.
Basically I am on a low budget presently. One of my friend here in Kolkata suggested that original Intel board based on 945 chipset which will come for around Rs 3500. But I am not inclined to buy Intel original because of their horrific service reputation.

So could you please tell a bit more about the above board and a review thread if you have?
I am also open for other vendors provided that do not thwart the performance and processor.

I am going to buy 1GB transcend DDR2 533 MHz RAM also.

[john_the_ultimate]

You can get Asrock 945G-DVI. It's review http://www.legitreviews.com/article/419/1/ Price would be around 4k.

[src2206]

Thanks john
But the board does not seem to support Intel's extreme graphics and has no firewire port and does not suppotr 800 FSB RAM :(
Moreover it is Micro ATX, I would prefer to have a ATX one.

Isn't there any thing from ASUS?

[assasin]

for C2D its better to but 965 chipset mobos.
since u want onboard gfx,then Asus P5B-VM.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/22/four_microatx__mobos_for_core_2/

and if u dont wanna onboard gfx,then u can buy MSI P965 Neo-F.
remember that u'll get better performance with a P965 chipset than with a G965 chipset.

[src2206]

Hello Assasin
Thank you for your reply.

After going through various webpages and prices, I am giving a serious thought about the following AMD config which will cost me less than Intel system:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ AM2 Rs6500
Asus M2A-VM Rs4000
Kingston 1GB DDR2 667MHz 2k
Seagate 160GB SATA2 HDD 2.2k
Zebronics ATX with 500W Pure Platinum SMPS Rs3000

The above prices are all tentetive and I hope to get less than the above atleast by few 100.

The Intel one that I have zeroed down is as follows:


Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 [4 MB L2 Cache] Rs7850
Motherboard - Intel DG965RY Rs4700
RAM - Kingston 1GB DDR2 667MHz Rs1900
HDD - Seagate 160GB SATA2 Rs2200
Cabby/SMPS - Zebronics ATX with 400W Pure Platinum SMPS Rs2500

If you look at the processors the only real difference is their cache size. The AMD one boasts a 512x2 MB L2 cache whereas the Intel one offers 4 MB shared L2 cache.

So I am pretty confused which one will give me better performance. Does the cache size really matter a lot?

I am generally in Video editing and Multimedia content development.

Please see if you [or any one else] could clear my doubt. :(

Thank you.

[rahul30]

brother i just saw ur 2 configs..

firstly and more importantly the cache memory factor for amd is not that important because of its architecture...and also cache memory doesnt make ur pc slower but on the other hand doesnt make it faster..lol..figure it out...

secondly perfromance has more to do with a good ram and gpu rather than a processor...and also for the price ur willing to pay...if u want future upgradability i think core 2 duo series are better for you and perhaps u can go with E4300 and overclock it...coz after july 22nd prices for quad core are gonna drop as low as 12k...

thirdly if ur going by the current performance then buy E4400 because in many websites its shown that its peformance is at par with E6320...and the performance of amd x2 4800 is a bit below E6400...but for the price u pay for amd motherboard and processor is value for money...also with amd processor u have the luxury of buying an extra 1 gb ram which i think is much better...
coz amd x2 4800 with 2gb ram is much better than intel E6320 with 1gb ram...

finally to sum up with if u want to upgrade ur pc or overclock it buy E4400 @ 6k and if ur not upgrading regularly buy amd x2 4800 and wait for barcelona quad core to release in christmas...hope that helps u

[src2206]

Hello rahul

Thank you for your reply. :)

I should have mentioned this:

"I am not a geek and I won't be one" :D 'cause I beleive I really do not have enough time to study, experiment and attain that status.

Overclocking for me is not an option. I do not dare to touch the processor after it is installed. I really can't take the chance as in case of any mishap it will bring a considerable financial loss to me.

Regarding upgrade yes I am interested to do that. I would love to wait till the end of July but my old rig has found a buyer with a good price and I can't let him slip. After that I can't stay nearly two months without a PC and my present party can not wait two monts to buy the present rig of mine.

For me upgradation really means increasing ram and adding a PCIe graphics card. As I pointed out I hardly play any games but Ido a lot of video a multimedia work..

In light of my above comments what is your opinion?

[john_the_ultimate]

You can also see this:
C2D E4300 - 5k excellent overclocker.
XFX 650i Ultra - 6k nice board with good overclocking option.
RAM,HDD and other stuff you decide.

[src2206]

Overclocking for me is not an option.

As I said in my last post.... :D

Is there any real difference between 945 and 965 chipsets? I would like to upgrade the processor to Quad Core after the Barcelona Quad core is launched from AMD stable at the end of this year. I hope then Intel will surely lower its quad core price to affordable level. So my intention is to just change the CPU keeping other things like mobo same.

[rahul30]

wat i figure out from ur post is that ur more inclined for buying intel configuration...so mention ur budget and we can perhaps build a good system overall...also mention wat things u require

[src2206]

Thank you for your reply Rahul

I need:

1. CPU (pref E6320)
2. MB (may be based on 945 [not sure] but pref from ASUS)
3. PSU including cabinet
4. FDD
5. 1 GB DDR2
6. 160 GB SATA

Intended use: Video editing and conversion. I do not intend to overclock.

I would like to upgrade to quad core (when the price falls to affordable level) without changing the MB or other HWs in future

Budget: 18-19K ( Iknow I am bit low, but thats the reality I have to accept :( )

[assasin]

Is there any real difference between 945 and 965 chipsets?

FSB : 945 -> 800MHz ,, 965 -> 1066MHz
SouthBridge: 945 -> ICH7 Family ,, 965 -> ICH8 Family
RAM: 945 -> DDR2 533,667MHz ,, 965 -> 533,667,800MHz

performance of 965 is better as compared to 945.

[vivekbabbudelhi]

no no dont get a 945 board for c2d
p965 is really best mobo for c2d price and performance ratio wise

proc alone dosent make pcs fast
you need to have
a good chipset
plus fast ram
plus a sata raid to make it worth

am2 x2 5200+ with 570 ultra outbeats e6300 with 945(not p965 or 975)

so i think you got it

[src2206]

Thanks :)

Any specific suggestion for the other components?

and does Intel DG965RY board has onboard graphics and gives good chances of upgradation in future (pref to Quad Core)? I went to the site but could not figure it out. :|

[rahul30]

Thank you for your reply Rahul

I need:

1. CPU (pref E6320)
2. MB (may be based on 945 [not sure] but pref from ASUS)
3. PSU including cabinet
4. FDD
5. 1 GB DDR2
6. 160 GB SATA

Intended use: Video editing and conversion. I do not intend to overclock.

I would like to upgrade to quad core (when the price falls to affordable level) without changing the MB or other HWs in future

Budget: 18-19K ( Iknow I am bit low, but thats the reality I have to accept :( )


for ur budget go for amd machine because its real value for money...and u can hope that the quad cores of amd are better priced when dey release in christmas...i m not suggesting u intel because 945 motherboards suck...its better u go for amd ...much much better value for money...

1) amd x2 4800 - rs. 6300
2) asus m2a-vm - rs. 4000
3) 2 gb ddr2 ram- rs. 4100
4) 160 gb hard disk- rs. 2250
5) cabinet/smps- zebronics cabinet with 500w smps- rs. 1500-2000

even with a low budget u get 2gb ram system which is awesome! go for this anyday man

[src2206]

Thank you very much rahul :)

As I was going through many reviews and tests I found out that C2D prforms far better when it comes to multitasking. As AV and MM work involves a lot of multi tasking I think that I have no option but to go for C2D. I have decided to extend my already stretched budget and I have decided to for C2d E6320 and Intel DG965RYCK board. I sincerely hope that I can manage all within 20K including VAT.

I hope you shall agree with my view.

Regards

[vivekbabbudelhi]

hmm..

i would like to pin point some aspects

since u are in av editing & CONVERSION

i mean CONVERSION requires a lot of disk I/O so to get max out of any rig u need to have high disk I/O
so what i suggest is a raid 5 setup with 3 hdds
its better than raid 1 in speed and better than raid 0 in terms of data failure


u must wonder why all mobos today feature a raid controller ?
i think u should think about it.

if u are a professional in av then u must have it.


second dont buy intel d boards .
get a asus or msi or gbt mobo. inteld board dont support many high perf. ram modules.plus asus/msi/gbt have robust replacement policy.

let me tell u my gbt mobo had gone crappy in just 6 mths. so i got a brand new replacement mobo from gbt.

third dont buy a igp solution .integrated gpu really reduces cpu performance.and ur av work is just a cpu hog

so my suggestion is msi p965 neo-f with a 6200 card with raid 5

[assasin]

so my suggestion is msi p965 neo-f with a 6200 card with raid 5

ur suggestion is a good one, but in no way he is gonna manage all that stuff in 20k.he'll hav to increase his budget by atleast another 5k.so it wud be best to forget bout RAID setup as of now.
get the mobo and the card.

[src2206]

Thanks friends

All of you are just great. :)

Sadly assasin is right ...I really can not afford a RAID setup for now.
Regarding cards I think I shall wait for few more months once DX10 compatible cards come in the market.

Regarding the mobo of MSI, I does not appear to be primarily made for C2D though it suppors C2D [the basic ones only]. Moreover it does not have on board graphics and IEEE1394 Firewaire port. Lastly, I already have a PC runing on MSI mobo+VIA chipset + Athlon 64 2800+ processor. I can't say I'm really happy, 'cause the mobo has to be sent to the manufacturer twice already for BIOS trouble. :P

Though I agree that Intel has a horrible reputation regarding their service, but I do not think that I have a choice :(

BTW, is there any performance issue with Intel original mobo?

I was hoping to get a ASUS mobo wothin my price range, but did not get one.

Wish me luck guys

Regards

[assasin]

the cheapest Asus mob that u can get based on the G965 chipset is the Asus P5B-VM for bout 6.5-7k.it'll be better if u can somehow extend ur budget and get that mobo.u wont regret it later.
As far as Intel Orignal mobos r concerned they hav a lot of ram compatibility probs, so better stay away from them.
u can aslo buy gigabyte mobo.
i'll still suggest u to buy a E4300 and Asus P5B-VM.oc the proccy a bit and enjoy the power of C2D.
i've oc'd my E4300 to 3GHz and its running 24x7 without any probs.

[src2206]

Thanks assasin
The trouble is I never oc in past, and I don't even know how to do it.

Secondly I do not think it will be a good idea to mess with the proccy before the wrrenty is over. :P

I shall seriously think about extending the budget.

BTW, does that ASUS board sports a onboard graphics?

[gx_saurav]

BTW, does that ASUS board sports a onboard graphics?
Many of them do, check for your motherboard model number at there website

[src2206]

Hello assasin

I should have pointed out it earlier,

Asus P5B-VM for bout 6.5-7k.
Are you sure 'bout the price? I just checked ITDepot [http://www.theitdepot.com/product.php?cat=13&sub_category_id=47&product_id=403] (http://www.theitdepot.com/product.php?cat=13&sub_category_id=47&product_id=403%5D), those guys have quoted a price tag of 9170/- + Shipping 335/-.
Otherwise I really liked the board, only the price seems to be out of my reach. :(
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[assasin]

i was quoted a price of 7.2k + vat bout a month ago by my vendor for that mobo.
just ask ur vendor and confirm the prices.

[Sykora]

The prices on ITDepot are not exactly up to date. Make sure you call first, or get a quote elsewhere.

[src2206]

sad news, the mobo is out of market for quite some time http://forumprog.free.fr/GS_e4ff864dac21276d2991bfb466f37adf.png

[vivekbabbudelhi]

yeah G965 is being replaced by G 35 and so on

give a look here

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2993

[assasin]

@src2206 try to source the mobo from else where.at my place that mobo is easily available.try to contact Rashi peripherals in ur city or in a city near u.

[src2206]

Thanks for the suggestion friend

Rashi Peripherals Pvt.Ltd.
67, Bentinck St., 1st floor
Suite No-4, Kolkata - 700 069.
gopalp@rptechindia.com

22153364/5/6

I shall get in touch with them- first thing in the morning. :)

Ok, RAshi is quoting the price as 7k+vat for retail buyers.

Hope to get this from normal dealers to get some price advantage. :)

[src2206]

Hello Asasin

I hope you are watchin' this thread,

I found another mobo [P5B-MX/WiFi-AP] based on Intel® 946GZ + ICH7 chipset.

I understand the main difference of this board with ASUS P5B- VM that it is not Quad Core ready apart from the basic chipset difference. But the point that I would like to point out is price: it is available only for 3900/-+VAT.

Here is the link: http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=182&l4=0&model=1670&modelmenu=2

Now both these boards have FSB of 1066 MHz but the price difference is huge. So is it worth going for the P5B-VM considering the Price- Feature ratio?

Please suggest.

Thank you.

[src2206]

Hello Assasin :)

At last I have got my new system up and running.

Though I did not buy E6300, but as you suggested, I went for E4300 and the ASUS mobo you recommended.

I also checked various sites and found no justification of spending 3K extra for a procy which hardly delivers anything better.

Thanks again.