All Graphics Cards related queries here.

[jz2linkinpark]

here is a wierd question ...
what do you think would be the best sub 15k card after 1 month ? coz I need to buy it after a month and I don't know how fast the prices fall of these things ...
I would like to know bout Ati and Nvidia solutions ...
the 7800gt costs rs.16000 here,so maybe after a month it will be in your budget

[akshayt]

you will get a 7900GT, maybe even at 17k, no point in thinking of a 7800GT then, unless it is sub 12-13k

[Geforce]

I have switched to PCI express platform finally :) changes the mobo - checkout sig, bought MSI 7600GT PCI-e for 11.7k. This card is amazing its a red pcb design with 2-slot cooling solution holding a heafty heatsink and fan combo.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=729
Posted good scores even with my cpu (A64 2800+) without overclocking.

Clocked at stock @560/700(1400 DDR) the scores are:
3dMark03 - 11686
3dMark05 - 5665
3dMark06 - 3238
All without overclocking. With the big heatsink + heatpipe + fan + dualslot solution it gives enough headroom to push higher ...... but I don't want to mess around with 3 yr warranty so early. :)

[akshayt]

is it box overclocked?

[Geforce]

No it is at stock frequencies of 560 core / 1400 memory.

[akshayt]

you are getting a real good score, which motherboard and RAM do you have?

my friend has 2gb, 3200 venice 7600GT BIG and he gets 5850 in 3D Mark 05. What are your driver settings?

[Geforce]

you are getting a real good score, which motherboard and RAM do you have?

Yeah, i bought a new motherboard as well - MSI K8N Neo3 (nforce 4-4x) with PCI-e 16x slot. RAM is single channel 2*512MB Kingston KVR DDR400 with IT timing but CL3 (can easily do CL2.5).

my friend has 2gb, 3200 venice 7600GT BIG and he gets 5850 in 3D Mark 05. What are your driver settings?

I used forceware 91.xx drivers (i guess they r not using any optimizations) also i ran all the tests with setting as Quality (instead of High performance) in NV control panel so no optimizations come into effect.

All test were ran at detault 3dmark settings.

[paul_007]

are there any geforce 7 series gfx card for AGP 8 X slot??

[akshayt]

yes, 7800GS, around 18k or so. other lower cards may soon be released. for a price of 18k you are better off buying a pcie mobo instead.

also, consider ati 1600pro solutions as well.

[yogi7272]

geforce 7 cards for agp 8x slot are

1. gainward 7800 gs bliss - there is 7800 gt core under this card .. my friend has this card - 20 pipelines
2. gainward 7800 gs bliss + -- there is 7900 gt core under this card - i had it .. but sold it now ..- 24 pipelines
3. leadtek 7800 gs - this thing has also got 7900 gt core under this card ..-24 pipelines as well

3. and the usual 7800 gs cards from various manufacturers ..- 16 pipelines
4. and the usual 7600 gs cards from various manufacturers- 12 pipelines

5. leadtek also has 7600 gt agp 8x card ..- 12 pipelines ..

[akshayt]

7800GS AFAIK is no where near a 7900GT or even a 7800GT perhaps. However it should perform close to a 7600GT which costs about 7k less, for this price you would rather sell your motherboard and get a new one and hopefully not lag much behind in performance if at all, and also be better off for upgrades.

[paul_007]

suppose i buy gforce 7600 GT 8X card ,then by how much amount fps in games will differ as compared to 7600 GT PCI-x considering other hardware specifications as same

[Geforce]

There won't be any difference if all hardware specifications are same.

Only leadtek has this card right now, and its not avaible in Nehru Place. Also price for such card will be higher (1-2k higher) than PCI-e one.

[akshayt]

i am not sure, but it depends whether agp version is exactly same speed etc or not

also, there may be some diff due to agp 8x as well

[paul_007]

There won't be any difference if all hardware specifications are same.

Only leadtek has this card right now, and its not avaible in Nehru Place. Also price for such card will be higher (1-2k higher) than PCI-e one.

r u sure that there wont b any difference bcos PCI-x card would b running at 16 X

[akshayt]

you will have to buy agp 8x card and run at 8x.

[paul_007]

you will have to buy agp 8x card and run at 8x.

that is OK................. but i just wanna know performance diffference

[siriusb]

^Performance difference in the real world is very negligible as no card needs maxes 8x speeds right now. Many high end cards have agp versions and infact, SLI'ing two powerful pciex cards (on non A8n32) mobos will run each of them at 8x.

[akshayt]

1)No high end card now comes in agp. 7800GS is mainstream performance.

2)I am not sure about the performance difference, ask members like switch, chaos, darklord, themask etc. Hopefully it won't be that bad, should probably be around the same speeds.

[goobimama]

I'm getting a New Dell 24 inch monitor and need a graphics card to power its 1920*1200 resolution through a DVI output. I've about 6k (max) to spend on the gfx card.

[akshayt]

if you gonna game on 1920 then get 1900XT CF!!!

else most GPUs should support that res

[sandeepkochhar]

I have AMD ATHLON 64 3000+ with MSI RS482M-ILD board (integrated ATI X200 graphics). It has a PCI Express slot. I want to add a graphics card preferably ATI based. Budget around Rs 3000/- . Plz suggest. Also mention the brand.

[goobimama]

@CF: Notice I mentioned my budget was 6k? I will be gaming mostly at 1024....nothing more. maybe something xbox 360 style. So, I was thinking of the 7600 GS or aTI 1600... anyone?

[drvarunmehta]

^^7600GS is slightly out of budget. Best you can do in 6k is X1600 Pro.

[Geforce]

Forsa 7600GS is for 6.7K. Digit reviewed it this month.

[akshayt]

6k and gaming of xbox 360 style can't go together.

those cards will play some games of today on 800*600
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you will prefer to play on 800*600 15" monitor rather than 1024*768 20" monitor. Take it from me.

[goobimama]

How about the 6800XT. I can get it shipped from abroad for $100. Is it a good deal? All I want is DVI output and some NFS Most Wanted...

[QwertyManiac]

Hey, I need to buy a 7600GS [AGP] in Chennai, can you tell me the prices and the best brand and if possible the store too ?

[akshayt]

6800XT is similar to a 6600GT. Rather get a 7300GT GDDR3 instead

[andysmith45]

Will Geforce 7600GT run on my powersafe 500W psu without any problem? CPU is Athlon64 3000+@stock speed, 1 GB RAM.

[deathvirus_me]

Yes it'll ... the 7600's are quite power efficient cards .. u need not worry ...

[dOm1naTOr]

@andysmith45
Ye it could run like a cake. Im running a dual core, a 7600GT, 4mem stick,2HDD,2 optical drives,5x80mmfans etc all in an INTEX 400W supply.
7600gt is a very power efficient card. It even draws less power than the older 5700.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5444/powerload5relo6.gif (http://imageshack.us)
I dun remember the source..just google it nd u can find more.

[andysmith45]

6800XT is similar to a 6600GT. Rather get a 7300GT GDDR3 instead

Which brands stock 7300GT DDR3 in India at the moment?

[deathvirus_me]

Which brands stock 7300GT DDR3 in India at the moment?

I don't reckon u'll find any ... ur best bet would be a 7600GS ... the standard one should beat the 6600GT , 6800XT ... somewhere in between the 6800XT and the 6800GT , both at stock ofcourse .. 3DMark05 should hove around ~4500 .. thats quite some performance ...

[akshayt]

some 6800XT may be slower than 7600Gs while some may be faster, and i am no talking of different games.

[andysmith45]

Will the Geforce 7 series cards work on my Asus A8N-VM mobo without any problem? Seems that a few people have problems with the 7600GS card.

[deathvirus_me]

Well ... there shouldn't be any incompatiblity , unless ofcourse ur lucky enough .. otherwise ... as far as i can say .. there should be no problem ..

[goobimama]

since the public opinion (public = forum geeks) is 7600 GS, I will go with the 7600 GS. Now my dealer has told me that for an XFX 7600 GS, it will cost me 7.8K + taxes. Is that okay or does anyone else know of a better deal?

[deathvirus_me]

Can u invest a bit more ?? the standard 7600GT's are just over 9k's now-a-days ... and those will be better the the 7600GS ...

[akshayt]

7600gs=6600gt+5%

[andysmith45]

Can u invest a bit more ?? the standard 7600GT's are just over 9k's now-a-days ... and those will be better the the 7600GS ...

Apart from Palit's, where can u get 7600GT for ard 9k?

[deathvirus_me]

Well .. i said just over 9k's ... my friend got a XFX 7600GT (standard) for 9.8k's ..

[goobimama]

^^ That's more like "just under" 10k... Actually, I might just go in for a 7300 or something. Just want that damn DVI for the 24 inch mon. Plus, if I get one of these 7600 GTs, then I will have to upgrade my 400 watt powersupply...

[drvarunmehta]

Don't you need a Dual link DVI to drive that 24" monitor? The 7300 won't be able to handle it.

[deathvirus_me]

Well , like u can see , the 7600's are very much power efficient .. so u need not worry much about the PSU . that friend of mine is running it on an Iball 400W psu ..

[akshayt]

I wouldn't recommend using iball with a 7600GT even if it can run it. Get atleast powersafe quality, also the CPU etc matters as well.

[goobimama]

Dual link? I thought that was only in the 30 inch models.

All I need is a cheap graphics card. Maybe even that Palit brand. So what if it lasts only a year, these things get outdated by that time anyway....

Anyone know of a good dealer in Mumbai? At least some contact information passed this side would be really helpful.

[samrulez]

Ask for Raj and Gulbir Bhatia..........



PRIME ABGB PVT. LTD
Shop no.16, Laxmi Building Compound,
Lamington Road, Mumbai 4
Phone nos. 23855500/ 23896600/ 30961742

[anoop1311]

i have a 2.8 ht with D865 mobo and 512mb ram.mobo supports only agp i ve decided to buy a good card for less than 15000.please suggest the best card.
or and this is a big or should i upgrade to a different mother board and processor.i am confused coz i have heard that Dx 10 is abou to come out.Then all this will go worthless.please help me out guys

[samrulez]

get a cheap 6600GT for now will cost u around 6k then after a year or two upgrade to a totally new system,with DD2,DX 10 support etc...

Or u can get a 7600GS AGP for 'bout 7.5-8k........

[sabret00the]

@:Goobimama:Hw much did the Dell 24" cost u man?

[Kniwor]

i have a 2.8 ht with D865 mobo and 512mb ram.mobo supports only agp i ve decided to buy a good card for less than 15000.please suggest the best card.
or and this is a big or should i upgrade to a different mother board and processor.i am confused coz i have heard that Dx 10 is abou to come out.Then all this will go worthless.please help me out guys
actually both nVidia and ATI are scheduled to release new cores soon, and so the existing cards might seem much less productive, u might wanna get them then.

[akshayt]

I would say do a complete overhaul 9 months down the line to quad core. Just now make do with a 6600GT second hand provided you are not a hardcore enthusiast gamer.

[goobimama]

costs 42k for the dell 2407wfp. It comes with a 5 year warranty so I think its a pretty sweet deal...

[sabret00the]

@Goobimama: That monitor is now 40 Grands.Its wonderful.We were trained on it a couple of months back. http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/20lcd_in?c=in&l=en&s=bsd

[amigoatul]

Hey videocard gurus.Need u to tell me the order of preference of the video card manufacturers like XFX,evga,bfg etc. Im ordering a 7900GT from USA on the 15th this mnth and i wanna know which one is the best 7900GT card.Pls post ur replies soon.Thanks.

[siriusb]

^Get the evga's latest revision. I don't think you can apply for warranty with this company, but, hopefully, you won't have to in the first place. Next in line would be xfx, leadtek, bfg.
If you can, try getting a x1800xt/x1900xt instead of the 7900gt.

[goobimama]

@sabreth: The dell mon still costs 42k. That price is excluding taxes which come up to about 2.5k....

[amigoatul]

Is the 256MB Ati X1900 XT card available in USA?? If so,paste any links with the price listed...pls.
Shoud i go for the 7900 GT or X1900 XT 256MB ???Im losing my mind....pls suggest ppl...

[caleb]

Hello Graphics gurus,
Please let me know HOW I can figure out the NVidia equivalent ATI cards?
For example:
What is the equivalent of NVidia GeForce 7600GS in ATI?
or
NVidia GeForce 7600GT in ATI?

Thanks in advance for all your answers.

[paul_007]

Hello Graphics gurus,
Please let me know HOW I can figure out the NVidia equivalent ATI cards?
For example:
What is the equivalent of NVidia GeForce 7600GS in ATI?
or
NVidia GeForce 7600GT in ATI?

Thanks in advance for all your answers.

u can visit www.gpureview.com and go to browse cards section and compare the core clock and memory clock of various cards

u can also compare performances of various cards

[drvarunmehta]

Geforce 7600GS = Radeon X1600XT
Geforce 7600GT = Radeon X1800GTO (here the Radeon is a little better)

[just4soft]

I have an old comp with the followin configurations

P4 2.26GHz
512+128MB RAM
60GB harddisk
845 mercury motherboard with 3 pci slots,no agp or pci-e slots.

suggest me a graphics card for this configuration

[go_gamez]

I have an old comp with the followin configurations

P4 2.26GHz
512+128MB RAM
60GB harddisk
845 mercury motherboard with 3 pci slots,no agp or pci-e slots.

suggest me a graphics card for this configuration

DUDE......its really difficult..to find a PCI based GFX card...and even if u fnd one..wont play a single latest...forget latest..not even many..of the older games !!

[drvarunmehta]

You have to go in for a complete upgrade. Even the best PCI card available won't help much.

[just4soft]

great!!! then suggest me the upgrades i have to make

[john_the_ultimate]

Okie people................I want to upgrade from my existing 6600gt and budget being around 20K. So whats the best I can get? My mobo is A8N-E. Or do u suggest that I wait for the DX10 card to hit the market.

[deathvirus_me]

get a 7900GT ... best under 20k's i think ... if u wait a bit , u might get a 7900GS for a bit less , plus some more things

[drvarunmehta]

great!!! then suggest me the upgrades i have to make
We need your budget for that.

[dOm1naTOr]

I think 6600GT can do the job at least until FG8 is released[games like crysis will be using SH4 found in DX10 cards]. So wait some 5~8 months nd make that 20 k to some 25 or even 30k nd when GF8 is released u will get a top notch card for the price.

[THE PHENOM]

well need a graphics card for this configuration
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pIV 2.80 GHZ
512 mb ram
160 gb ddr ram (seagate barracuda)
intel motherboard
pc model COMPAQ PRESARIO SR1250IL bought 2004

unsure whether PCI slot present or not.

budget 5500/- to 6500/-

[caleb]

well need a graphics card for this configuration
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pIV 2.80 GHZ
512 mb ram
160 gb ddr ram (seagate barracuda)
intel motherboard
pc model COMPAQ PRESARIO SR1250IL bought 2004

unsure whether PCI slot present or not.

budget 5500/- to 6500/-
Your motherboard does not have the required AGP or PCI-Express slot for you to be able to add a graphics card.

[amigoatul]

Hey guys.Is the Ati X1900 XT 256MB version out yet.Atleast in the USA??
Also is it better than 7900GT???
Pls post any links for the Ati X1900 XT 256MB reviews and sites comparing the two cards if any.Any websites featuring the the ati card for sale?
Pls help.

[drvarunmehta]

If you want to buy from the US then nothing beats www.newegg.com

[amigoatul]

I checked newegg.com and tigerdirect.com but the ATI X1900 XT 256MB version is not listed.Do u know if the 256MB ver. is up for sale yet??Do you recommend the X1900Xt over the 7900Gt???

[deathvirus_me]

yup .. the X1900XT is definitely better than the 7900GT

[drvarunmehta]

I checked newegg.com and tigerdirect.com but the ATI X1900 XT 256MB version is not listed.Do u know if the 256MB ver. is up for sale yet??Do you recommend the X1900Xt over the 7900Gt???
It's a brand new card and might take a while till it's widely available.

[just4soft]

DUDE......its really difficult..to find a PCI based GFX card...and even if u fnd one..wont play a single latest...forget latest..not even many..of the older games !!

i can play halflife2 at 1024*768...except for one little problem....the game crashes everytime it autosaves

[wireless46]

Hi... i am looking out for an agp card... I found the Leadtek 7600 GT AGP.. price is arnd 13k afaik. I cant find it easily over here so can anybody tell me abt any gud dealer (anywhere in India) who sells leadtek cards and can offer it for the cheapest price ?? please help me out... Thanx...

[goobimama]

Here's something: I have one guy who wants to sell a GeForce 7800GTX 256 MB for 15k. It is a box packed piece but I don't think I'll get any warranty (from HonKong). Is it a good offer? Or should I get a 7900GT (I know, my finances are suddenly high enough for this nonsense).

[drvarunmehta]

If you don't want to play games, don't spend so much just to drive a 24" display. Even a 7k 7600GS will do a really good job at that.

[goobimama]

^^ Well I just saw some Oblivion screenshots....and now I want to game real bad...

I got a good sound card, excellent speaker system, a 24 inch display coming soon....why not? Just wanted to know if it was worth it, that 7800GTX, that's all....

There's also the thing that no one wants to sell me a 6600GT pci-e card. Every guy who wants to sell one has an AGP version and the PCI-e guys decide last minute that they want to enjoy it for a few days longer....

[drvarunmehta]

There isn't much difference performance-wise between a 7800GTX and a 7900GT. If you don't mind the lack of warranty it's a pretty good buy. Keep in mind that the 7900GT will OC better and run cooler than the 7800GTX. Plus the 7800GTX uses up 2 slots while the 7900GT is a single slot card (if that's important to you).

[sabret00the]

Druvan the cooling issue and the 2 slot factor is definitely an important factor that u have pointed out especially if u have a heavily packed Tower.

[anilthomas26]

hey guys.......

ma config :

amd 64bit 2800+ @ 1.98Ghz
1 gib ram
asus k8n mobo
evga 6800gs 256mb

ma card is too hot......:(

ambient temp is bout 41 and core temp at 56-58 at no load.....:(

and ambient temp goes upto 51-54 and core temp to 80-83 when playing games......

fixed two extra blowers for the card....with an inlet fan nearby......and also an exhaust at the top side of the cabinet......in all 4fans.....but no use......

cud it be becoz ma card is deffective ?????
it was overclocked to 425/1150 from 400/1100.....but i reverted back due to the temperature issues.....

plz help me guys.......

[drvarunmehta]

These temps are normal for a graphics card.

[akshayt]

get 7900gt with local warranty for 17k

[goobimama]

^^ Any contact details? And also, what about the 7900GS? I heard that is currently the best bang for buck under $200 card available...

[deathvirus_me]

Well .. the XFX 7900GS Extreme would be the best buy right now .. that card can be pushed to over 600 MHz on the core :O ... and 1400 MHz on the mem. .. over 5500 3DMarks in 3DMark06 ... its priced around $240 ...

[akshayt]

7900GS - 15k
7900GT - 17k

[john_the_ultimate]

Is 7900gs available in kolkata? If yes then where cud I buy and whats the price?

[anilthomas26]

hey...plz take a luk at this pic......

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/stanzlavos/?action=view&current=untitled-1.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch3

wats the "core" temp indicate there ?????

[john_the_ultimate]

Must be ur GFX card temps...Just read more about gfx card safe working temps and set SPEEDFAN accordingly. Even my 6600gt goes upto around 65C on loads.

[anilthomas26]

hey..........jst c these screenshots from riva tuner......

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/stanzlavos/?action=view&current=untitled-4.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1

the temp rose to 93 while i played...:(

someone suggested to c if there was enough thermla paste between the heat sink and gpu of ma card.......

i removed the heat sink and saw that there was enough i think..........

but nit very much though......

bfore i opened the heat sink the temp wud go only upto about 81-83,,,,,now it goes to 93 ...:(

wat shud i do....is it bcoz of the thermal paste ????

or is it something i did when i opened the heat sink ???/

i fixed it back as it was........

plzz help me guys..........:(
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i forgot to tell something........these temps are without the extra fans i have fixed.......

with the fans the core temp rise upto the earlier 83...and ambient temp to 53....

but still these temps are high right ????

[john_the_ultimate]

Ouch......that's too hot. Maybe u didnot put the HSF back correctly also improve the airflow, just adding more fans doesn't helps.

[cooldude]

Forsa Geforce 7600GS how is this GPU could i get more info about it

[anilthomas26]

hey....ma card is not even running 3dmark properly now........

full of graphical problems......:(

like blinking.......

once it went fine.....the next time it started doin these symptoms......

????

help me guys....:(

[akshayt]

Call a educated dealer and set it right. Else have the company guys set it right, make sure he doesn't void your warranty by telling you that why did you take the HSF out in the first place

[dhawald]

Hey if you guys thought that U are getting 256 mb on your
6200s or 6800s

U r wrong see this post.

http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=603442#603442

[drvarunmehta]

6200's use system memory but certainly not the 6800's.

[anilthomas26]

Call a educated dealer and set it right. Else have the company guys set it right, make sure he doesn't void your warranty by telling you that why did you take the HSF out in the first place

hey if i try for a warranty is ther any way for them to find out that i had tried to overclock or unlock the pipelines...?????

and if yes.......is there any way i can prevent tat ?????

[akshayt]

There are 6800s with 128mb, 256mb and even 512mb

unlock/oc is through software

[dOm1naTOr]

Ya there's nothin to worry as u havnt flashed the bios or installed firmware of ant 6800GT. SO they wont know bout the unlock/oc.

[sabret00the]

the 'Best Value for Money' 7600 GT card is Palit 7600 GT Priced at Rs.8900

[andysmith45]

the 'Best Value for Money' 7600 GT card is Palit 7600 GT Priced at Rs.8900

I thought that they were selling for 8500/- in Delhi a couple of weeks back. Has there been an increase in pricing?

[anilthomas26]

which is better ????.....a 7600 or a 6800 ?????

i saw tat the 6800 has more mem bandwidth as well as more fill rate...etc......

and also i guess the 7600 cost less than the 6800....???

then y is it the 7 series ??? :d

[dOm1naTOr]

the gF7 cards[except 7800] are built on new 90nm technology whereas 6800 nd 7800 are 110nm. So the 90nm ones can attain much higher clocks ne runs at lower temps nd also requires less power. They are cheaper than comparitively similar perfomance GF 6 cards as their manufacturing cost is much lesser nd the card layout, size, amount of silicon, area of heatsink...all is less. As with all other technology ...the latest technology is always better.
By the by a 7600GT oced can get 6700~6900 points in 3D Mark05.But only the ultra varient in 6800 oced can attain such high scores.

[Samee]

Help me people!

My config is as follows.
Asus A8N-E
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
256 X 2 400MHz DDR
Big Nvidia 6600 256 MB (Non GT)
etc etc

My problem is, my 3dmark 05 score is very low (around 1800). :(

When i run the features test, Pixel Shader tests run fine ( fps around 60), but the Vertex shader tests give me fps around 2 fps :(

I am running XP Pro + XP Pro 64, latest drivers and direct X.

Is there a problem with my Card?

[dOm1naTOr]

First go to nidia ctrl panel nd set the values to min nd move the perfomance quality bar to perfomance.
Open task manager nd see how many ram is free before openin 3D Mark. For a total 512 MB free mem should be around 400mb or greater. Or quit some unwanted apps from teak manager's "process" tab.
Also see if ur mem is runnin in dual channel...nd set to 400 mhx in bios. U can see if its dual ch using cpuz.

[Samee]

Thanks for the fast reply!

I installed windows + Motherboard drivers + Gfx Drivers (nothing else) and ran the benchmark still the same result. Nvidia ctrl panel has Antialiasing None, Anistropic Filtering Off, Vertical Sync Off.

Here is the CPUz screenshot!

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1913/cpuzfp3.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuzfp3.jpg)

Still same result, as i said in the features test, vertex shader test give only 2 fps! :(

[dOm1naTOr]

have u tried 3D Mark 03 nd 06. Maybe the 05 version has some issue with the x64 windows.
Also how much mem is free?

[Samee]

Free memory is around 400 MB.

I didn't try 3dmark 03, did try 3dmark 06. The problem remains.

Also running 3dmark in both Xp pro and Xp Pro 64.

[dOm1naTOr]

which forceware ru usin??nd which mobo chipset nd bios drivers??

[Samee]

Was using forceware 91.47, but installed 92.91 beta (gave a 2 fps increase).
Mobo Drivers: Nforce4 6.86 (Latest from the Nvidia site).
BIOS version is 1013.

[dOm1naTOr]

The 9xxx series drivers are totally crappy nd many people r gettin huge perfomance hit with this new driver. Install the 84xx or 88xx drivers. Its the best in perfomance nd stability.

[Samee]

hhmmm... will try that out now!
i have the 84.56 whql drivers.

[dOm1naTOr]

Also try NGO optimised drivers. They performs more nd many reg tweaks are done already like coolbits nd all.

[Samee]

Installed and tried the following drivers.

84.56 whql drivers
NGO optimized 84.66
NGO optimized 91.47

still the same problem, vertex shader performance is low. :(

[sabret00the]

Arvind da gr8 @ help again...bravo knight bravo

[blackleopard92]

does anyone know how much ATi's x1650 would cost?
Is it avalible in India?

[drvarunmehta]

It's barely even available in the US. Will take a while before it's available here.
The price there is $99 so expect it to about Rs. 6,000 here.

[deathvirus_me]

Help me people!

My config is as follows.
Asus A8N-E
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
256 X 2 400MHz DDR
Big Nvidia 6600 256 MB (Non GT)
etc etc

My problem is, my 3dmark 05 score is very low (around 1800).

When i run the features test, Pixel Shader tests run fine ( fps around 60), but the Vertex shader tests give me fps around 2 fps

I am running XP Pro + XP Pro 64, latest drivers and direct X.

Is there a problem with my Card?

Well .. 6600 isn't a great card ... my old 6600GT gave around ~3300 .. so u can expect something around 2000 ...

Also .. the pixel shader test is dependent on the pixel shading capabilites .. now the 6600 has 8 pp and 3 vp ... rite ???

Also .. the overall scores in 3DMark05 is dependent on the game tests only .. so th later tests will not effect ur scores ..

And about the drivers .. i'm using 91.45 and those are great ... i personally don't have any complains about 9x.xx ... except the new CP .. which is getting more polished with every new release .. plus with the newer 9x.xx drivers u get "transparency AA" with the 6 series card :D

[akshayt]

Check the normal scores for a 6600. Also, 2 FPS was probably during CPU tests, happens to one and all.

[Samee]

@deathvirus_me : yes you are right! (8 pp and 3 vp). That means this card s**** ?

@akshayt: nope, they were not for CPU tests.

I'm starting to think of increasing my RAM and change the GFX card, any suggestions?

[dOm1naTOr]

Its not a gud move to upgrade ur card now, as u can hanle most games at least playable frames for at least when DX10 cards r released. It won't be too far. Dun waste money for a 6 series or 7 series now.

[akshayt]

If you want a sub 10k dx 10 card then you will end up waiting atleast 6 months at the minimum. After about 12 months you would anyways have upgraded, so it makes much more sense to get a new card like the 7600GT now.

[Samee]

Thanks for the help!

I think i'll wait for a few months, as the games i play now are very playable!
I mostly play Counter Strike Source. Get about 70-80 fps!

[deathvirus_me]

Well ... 8 pp and 3 vp isn't bad ... just that u can't really turn up the res. and aa ... but as u mentioned Counter Strike .. i think u can manage 1280*960 with 2x aa easily .. and get over 50 fps anyday ..

[dOm1naTOr]

Keep ocing the card in case u need more fps till u get ur new cars when DX10 cards r launched. Its not that far away as many games r about to be launched which boasts of supporting DX10 like the UT07, Gears of War nd Crysis.

[deathvirus_me]

Well .. the 6600 can hit 550 easily on the core .. though u shouldn't push the mem. much beyond 600 ...

[Samee]

i think i found out where the bottleneck is!

This is the riva tuner screenshot.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2266/rivatunernl6.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rivatunernl6.jpg)

it says 64 bit for the memory bus. I have asked on guru3d.com forums and they say they have never seen a Nvidia 6600 with 64 bit memory bus( it must be atleast 128 bit) and the 64 bit is choking my system.:(

But the product page of my graphics card says it's 128 bit.
see here: http://www.big-tek.com/geforce6600PCIlp128.htm

look at the bottom of that page Big Tek has given the specs.

Riva Tuner can't lie as well!
So there can be only two possibilities.
1. There is someway to make the memory bus 128 bit.
2. The card is faulty.

What am i supposed to do?

[goldenninga]

hi guys i am new to this forum

keep it up the good work guys

Right now i need some help can some one tell me where i can find a dealer in chennai for Zalman or Logysis cooler for 6600GT 128MB pci-e version card, i dont know where i can get one

as my card idles at 45c and at load i didn't see it running morethan 73c

please help me, thx
:)

[dOm1naTOr]

@Samee
There is no way a 128 bit mem is running on 64bit...not in this world at least..Either the riva tuner is crappy or u card is a 64 bit one. Try everest and sisoft sandra nd see the specs of ur card.

@goldenninga
The temps u ve mentioned is perfectly healthy nd no need for ny spcl cooler. Have heard that some 6600GT hits almost 95c at load after oc. So 73c is really safe nd there is good room for oc as far as temp is concerned.
Invest that money nd upgrade ur card to some 7600GT or x1800GTO.

[Samee]

yeah,thinking the same (that my car dis 64 bit one)!
The specs page says 128 bit, i have 64 bit. I'll sell this card to someone and get another card. Will definately not get something from BIG (Big Byte Corporation).

A lesson learned the hard way. Brand does matter, no wonder people spill out extra money for something like Gainward, MSI etc etc.
Anyways, thanks everyone for the help, really appreciate it! :)

[deathvirus_me]

Either the riva tuner is crappy or u card is a 64 bit one.

Quite a bold statement .. if ur familiar with Rivatuner i think this would be pretty hard to say ... Rivatuner is smart enough to detect card properly .. and if doesn't then ur presented with false info for just the gpu id ...

Also .. no wonder BIG cards are so cheap ... so u just learnt a lesson the hard way ...

[dOm1naTOr]

if ur familiar with Rivatuner i think this would be pretty hard to say ... Rivatuner is smart enough to detect card properly .. and if doesn't then ur presented with false info for just the gpu id ...


agree with the statement..so the only chance is the card being a 64bit one..
nd wondering how easily BIG is ablr to fool the customers.

[CadCrazy]

Hi all
I m currently planning to build system with following config

1. CPU: Intel core 2 Duo E6600
2. Motherboard: Asus P5B
3. RAM: 512 MB DDR 2 533 Mhz
4. HDD: 250 GB Seagate SATA II
5. ODD: Lite-on SHM-165H6S
6. Cabinet: Asus VENTO 7700
7. PSU: Zebronics 500 W

I will purchase a good graphics card next year after Windows Vista will be available.But as of now i just want a basic graphics card for display which can also play games. Can you plz suggest me some good card for around 3000/- . What about XFX GeForce 6200 TC ????????

Thanks in Advance

[dOm1naTOr]

Why goin for such a high end proc??nd only 512 MB?
Nd why spend so much on cab?
U can probably go for an E6400 along with 1GB or even 2GB mem.
Today one should get at least a 7300GS for 3.5k if he wanna play any game at low~med settings@800*600.
6200TC can't survive with todays games even al lowest setings.

Again I say...512 would make ur system crawl even with that high end proc.
E6400 nd 2GB would make hell of a difference. Go for some lil bit cheaper cab nd get the 7300GT or a 7600GS.

[CadCrazy]

Thankssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Arvind
Any other suggestion please

[dOm1naTOr]

Get at least 667 mhz or an 800MHZ in dual channel. Its better to go for the Zebronics 400W platinum instead of the regular Zebronics 500W as the Platinum is for gamin nd would be much stable nd the output would be in correct ratings also. It would cost u 1600/-. U can also opt for Zebronics platina 500w.
link:
http://www.zebronics.net/home/powersupplies.asp

[sabret00the]

@jugnu_009: Asus Vento is a very good cabinet

I own a Zebronics Antibiotic Cabinet and a Zebronics 500 W Platinum PSU works pretty well for me.

[akshayt]

If you want to play your games till Vista is out get the 7600GT and then get a 8800GT class later. Get atleast 2-4GB RAM. Else get E6400.

[deathvirus_me]

Ouch ... get a E6400 along with 2 GB ram .. much better option ...

And about the card ... go for a 7600GS .. others are mearly for show .. and can't handle current games at good settings ...

[akshayt]

7600GS is too crap. just 5% better than a 6600GT. Get atleast 7600GT/7900GT at the minimum.

[dotcommakers]

I have Intel Dual Core - DDR2 ram and P5RD2-VM Asus mother board which graphic card should i purchase.. I have only 5000rs. budget

[deathvirus_me]

for 5k's .. i think a 7300GT should suffice ...

[sanju_nlp]

I have an MSI motherboard with 1 gb of ram amd 3000+ 2ghz processor, with integrated NVIDA GEFORCE 5600 128mb graphics, although all the latest drivers are installed but i can not watch dat, mpeg or any kind of video files. it works when i uninstall the graphics but otherwise? Please help?

[samrulez]

r u using beta driver?? if yes then revert to the older versions....

[deathvirus_me]

Whats the exact problem ??

[sabret00the]

@sanju_nlp:Ok that's the same card that I'am using rite now.XFX Nvidia 128mb GeForce 4 AGP 8x if I'am not wrong and the card has issues with Drivers downloaded from Nvidia website.If you are using SP2 then just use that drivers with SP2 and the card will work fine.I use 19" Samsung 955DF CRT monitor in vga (DB 15) port.I use a resolution of 1280x960 @ 85Hz.Works pretty fine with me.So I suggest u too uninstall the video driver from safe mode.Take out the card from the board and then do reinstall XP (provided if u have data then skip the OS reinstall part) and then after laoding all necessary drivers put the card in the slot and then load original drivers from the video card cd.Then install SP2.Shud work fine.

[Nav11aug]

Is the 6800GT better than the 7300GS.Tell me which one to go in for .I have a budget of about Rs.5k

[drvarunmehta]

6800GT is way better than 7300GS, but it's also out of your budget.
In your budget the best you can get is a 7300GT for about Rs. 5000.

[deathvirus_me]

6800GT is waaay better than the 7300GS ... and waay more costly than 5k's ..

[aquamatrix]

i have C2d powered PC, and am willing to spend around 15k for a gpu. should i wait for some time( i can wait for about 3-4 months max) coz i have my eyes on 7900GT or GTX or go for the 7900 GS.

what will be the prices of dx10 cards when they come out???

[deathvirus_me]

Go for the XFX 7900GS EE card ... its awesome ..

[sandeepkochhar]

I have a ATI Xpress200 based motherboard with inbuilt graphics. I want to add a PCI Xpress based ATI card to it. Is X550 256 MB DDR 2 good enough for playing new games. I am not a hardcore gamer. All i need is playable 3d games @ 800*600 with acceptable frame rates. Will this card add on to the performance or the inbuilt ATI Xpress 200 good enough for the purpose as this inbuilt card is Direct X 9 complaint and has 3D capabilties.

Also can I run Xbox emulator on this config.

My config is:
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
MSI RS482-ILD ATI Xpress 200
512 MB DDR 2 RAM
160 GB SATA

Thanx.

[akshayt]

6800GT and 7300GS is a night and day difference. Anyway, 7600GT > 6800GT and retails for 8500 and up.

for 5k, you should eye a 6600GT.

For 15k, you get a 7900GS, 17k for 7900GT, look out for a 7900GTO as well, 7900GTX is out of budget and looses to a 1900XT within the same price range.

[aquamatrix]

what if a buy the gpu after 3-4 months, what will be best in 15k range.

[vinyas]

hey guys i a Real Noob in Gpu... looking for a Good Pcie Card @ 16x ..... budget 7k....
hope u guys can pls help

[akshayt]

@vinyas, I have already replied in your thread at TE. I have fitted a 7900GT in your budget.

for 7k you can't really expect a gaming experience.

After 3-4 months for 15k you will get a 7950GT and if you are extremely lucky a 1900XT for a tad more, or you might get a 1800XT around 15k then.

[aquamatrix]

i think i'll wait then. i'll just increase my ram to 2 gigs for now.

[return_of_vengeance]

@ sundeep
ATI Xpress200 is just a nice card with 256MB sharing with the RAM. better u add 1 256MB ram, if u r not a hardcore gamer den dis onboard card is best....all u need to do is just add ram.

[samrulez]

hey guys i a Real Noob in Gpu... looking for a Good Pcie Card @ 16x ..... budget 7k....
hope u guys can pls help

Its not that u ''cannot'' play games with a 7k gfx card.......ohhhh...sure X1900XTX is good,but expensive, lol....7600GS for 7k is good enough, but a 7600GT for 13k would be better.

[vinyas]

Its not that u ''cannot'' play games with a 7k gfx card.......ohhhh...sure X1900XTX is good,but expensive, lol....7600GS for 7k is good enough, but a 7600GT for 13k would be better.

decided on this card .....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122006

Pls Comment on this

[aquamatrix]

why dont you wait and get a dx10 card, its gonna be woth the wait @vinyas

[sabret00the]

Direct X 10

Here are the details in case you guys were wondering.

* Unified Shader Architecture
* Support FP16 HDR+MSAA
* Support GDDR4 memories
* Close to 700M transistors (G71 - 278M / G70 - 302M)
* New AA mode : VCAA
* Core clock scalable up to 1.5GHz
* Shader Peformance : 2x Pixel / 12x Vertex over G71
* 8 TCPs & 128 stream processors
* Much more efficient than traditional architecture
* 384-bit memory interface (256-bit+128-bit)
* 768MB memory size (512MB+256MB)
* Two models at launch : GeForce 8800GTX and GeForce 8800GT
* GeForce 8800GTX : 7 TCPs chip, 384-bit memory interface, hybrid water/fan cooler, water cooling for overclocking. US$649
* GeForce 8800GTX : 6 TCPs chip, 320-bit memory interface, fan cooler. US$449-499

http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=4007

[ancientrites]

guys this is gonna be a big one.so please help/recommend me in choosing right graphic card.
my eyes are set on asus EN7950GX2/2PHT/1G and xfx Geforce 7950GX2. yeah both are 1 gb .i am really confused which one to buy.i have no idea whats their price.one of my vendors told me asus costs 41500 and xfx costs 44500.i hope now the prices are down.

my current configuaration is as follows
intel 2.66ghz processor
1.5 gb ddr2 ram
asus p5n32 sli deluxe motherboard
leadtek winfast px6800 gs tdh 256 ddr3(soon i m gonna dispose this)
soundblaster audiogy4 sound card
zebronics 500 watts smps
zebronics gaming cabinet
and so on.....

so which one should i go for.asus or xfx?

[sabret00the]

@ancientrites : u must be a rich man's son...........jus kiddin

[ancientrites]

sabretOOthe:you 4got to help me

[akshayt]

@ancientrites

there is no point getting such a graphic card with such a low end CPU. This is D805 right?

Then you first need to upgrade that, get atleast D930 and oc it or X2 3800 or C2D(prefered), try to get 2GB or more.

[sabret00the]

@ ancientrites : I'am Trying to build:

Intel C2D E6600 (waiting for prices to come down from Rs.15500/-)

Asus P5W DH Deluxe (waiting for prices to come down from Rs.14500/-)

Nvidia GeForce 7900GS (waiting to get more info on DX 10 cards)

2 x 2Gb DDR2 800Mhz (waiting for prices to come down from Rs.25000/-)

Zebronics Antibiotic (already have this one)

Zeb Platinum 500W PSU (already have this one)

Now u may add to ur list soundblaster audiogy4 sound card but I dont think that is necessary given the above mobo supports 7.1 channel sound.Wats ur budget if u dont mind?

[ShekharPalash]

[help a n00b... lol]

Consider me a Graphics Card n00b...

System is little old now... any ways
Here's my config, currently on Intel 845 on board graphics (sucks!)... please suggest me a decent nVIDIA/ATI card...

Remember I need an AGP card... as my mobo don't have a PCIe slot... :(

Computer: Pentium 4 @ 1.9GHZ; 2GB DDR RAM @ 266MHz
LCD : 19" WideScreen

This system is mostly used for GFX stuff... I don't game much on this PC... but now feeling like!...
So please suggest me which one to buy... my budget is around 5K-10K....

Thanks.

[samrulez]

Do u have a 4x slot or a 8x....anyways 8x r backwards compatible....get a 7600GS for 8k-9k.....should be the best AGP card...now..

[ShekharPalash]

It's 8x AGP... thnx, I'll check 7600GS... :)

[ancientrites]

sabret00the,that was awsome list,but u didnt understand my earlier post.i m still drawn on confusion whether to buy xfx or asus i gb graphic card?i have read the reviews but both are pretty close each other.the only thing is xfx has launched 3 models of 1gb graphic card.since we have same psu i would like to ask ya whether it makes noise and mine does its really irritating sometimes.

ShekharPalash : why dont u hunt down for sapphire graphic cards.they are venomous when it comes to performance.one of my friend uses this. not sure whether 4x/8x.

[samrulez]

^^
XFX is better than ASUS......also don't go by the memory go by the benchies! ;)

[REY619]

I want some info on graphics card, I hope someone will help.....
Heres my PC config::::::(I know its the suckest of all config...)
P4 1.6Ghz, 256 MB SD RAM@133MHz, intel i845-ITE8712 chipset. I am currently using SiS 300 series graphics card with 32 MB memory (I know you will laugh on me!!) and its unable to play most of the games, as u may be knowing.
Now can anyone tell me if this chipset supports onboard graphics?? Also it has 2x (again laughable!!) AGP slot and no PCIE slot.
SO now what should i do? should i change the motherboard? or are there any graphics cards, that can play most of the current games, and that also support this darn rig??
Thanx!

[samrulez]

get a 6200 or a 5200....I think 5200 is available in 2X ...not too sure about 6200....

[adithyagenius]

I have compaq presario 1931IL branded PC with compaq MV7540 monitor.

Specs
Pentium d820 (2.8ghz dual cores with 1mb l2 cache per core with em64t Xbit)
1gb ram 2*512mb ram.
160gb sata seagate 7200rpm
compaq motherboard based on ATI xpress200 chiptset with PCI-E16x slot free and on board realtek 7.1 HD audio.

I want to buy 7600GT 256mb ddr3.
Three are available in hyderabad - BIG , XFX and Zebronics.

1. Which has the best performance.
The costs I got are
BIG - 9575 inr
XFX - 11000 inr
zebronics - 9500 inr

2. I heard zebronics is palit. Is this true? Zebronics site doesnt list 7600gt under their products and the pic in digit magazine for zebronics matches with the custom pcb of sonic version 7600gt of palit for which we can do volt modding.

3. I have checked XFX benchmarks in various 7600GT roundups and xfx doent seem to beat the average although it overclocks better than other cards. Why is XFX so overpriced.

4. Is palit or forsa available in hyderabad?

Off topic
1. ow do I find out my RAM type for ex ddr 2 400mhz or ddr2 667mhz? I tried 3dmark 06 trial provided by digit but it cudnt detect. My ram is being shared by onboard ati x300 (xpress200)?

[drvarunmehta]

1. XFX has the best performance but it's also the most expensive.

2. Dunno.

3. XFX beats the BIG and Zebronics cards but others like Leadtek, Gainward, Asus are more than a match for it.


Use Everest to find out your RAM type.

[deathvirus_me]

Anyone knows whether the current 7900GT's still have the problem ???

[akshayt]

No, I don't think so atleast. The problem was mostly with pre overclocked cards. Anyway even if you get a one which has a problem, RMA is still there. And in case you get from abroad, look no further than a 1900xt/xtx.

Normally for real world benchies almost all cards in almost all benchies will perform almost equal at same frequencies.

[adithyagenius]

a noob question
Does overclocking cancel warranty?

[akshayt]

Legally, Yes. But practically in India atleast, usually you are able to get warranty, if it is your dealer then he may give you warranty whether oced or not becoz he doesn't pay from his pocket, a shop keeper might not if you tell him about it and if you tell an importer etc anything about such a thing, then you will surely loose warranty.

[ancientrites]

guys,anyone has purchased zebronics 7950gx2 1gb graphic card.whats its price?

[codename_romeo]

Please tell me the cost of nvidia 7300gt 512mb graphics card and nvidia 6200 256 mb card and which brand.......

[akshayt]

@ancient, 33000 and above
rather get a 1900xt and upgrade to R600 4 months down the line. 1900xt has better image quality and supports AA + HDR as well.

[anandrules]

i used to have an onboard card till now and i just bought a new ATI x800 XL AGP card . But i cant figure out how to go about installing it. I tried these steps:
1.Uninstalled intel extreme graphics drivers
2.Shut down comp, put card in AGP slot firmly.
3.Hook up monitor to the card and try to start , but i do not get any display on the monitor . It remains black even though i can hear the beep sound and see the harddisk red light glowing.
Please help me fix this problem coz i really want to play sm decent games.

[samrulez]

go to the BIOS and change ''Primary graphics Adapter'' to AGP ....it should boot! ;)

[anandrules]

go to the BIOS and change ''Primary graphics Adapter'' to AGP ....it should boot! ;) dude i checked it out in the bios and even now its set on 'AGP' even though i am using onboard so dunno bout that

[nishant_nms]

Are u able to see BIOS display with the GFX card

[anandrules]

Are u able to see BIOS display with the GFX card no re nthing cms up with the graphics card in the slot.....i just get a black screen with the yellow light on the monitor blinking.

[NikhilVerma]

emm try to make sure that you have put the card inside firmly .... I had a hard time putting my Ati card in the slot ....

[thewisecrab]

Is there any Graphic Card which runs on a PCI Slot??????

[drvarunmehta]

Many, but they all suck. If you don't even have an AGP slot you need to upgrade your entire system.

[samrulez]

yeah!
All PCI based cards suck big time!

But I think max u can get is a 6200 or a X1300 based card,....

[anandrules]

i was just thinking that since the card (ATI x800 XL AGP 256 mb 256 bit) is in working condition and not compatible with my slot, how much would it fetch me if i tried to sell off the card?? After all its brand new and has got a 1 year warantee

[squid]

i like to get a graphics card for the below mentioned configuration
amd athlon xp 1800+
asus a7n266vm mb / 512 DDR
4x AGP slot

suggest me a good AGP card. my budget is upto Rs.6000.

[samrulez]

Get a 6600GT 128MB, it should be the best in your budget...

[deathvirus_me]

Get a 6600GT ... though it'll still be bottlenecked quite a bit .. but should suffice ..

[ancientrites]

guys, just 2day morning i phoned zebronics headquarter(chennai) regarding zebronics 7950gx2 i gb graphic card.schocking reply given by customer care was they were not aware nor no idea about their latest graphic card and couldnt be found in the stock.how humilating it could ve been but peace of mind they also sale leadtek graphic cards which cost 34000+4%tax for leadtek 7950gx2 gb i found it fair enough.finally i m gonna order it from bangalore branch.i feel really happy now.

[drvarunmehta]

I'd advise you not to spend so much money on a DX9 graphics card. If you REALLY want to play games get a 7900GT for half the price of a 7950GX2. It's more than enough for a great gaming experience.

Do you even have a large enough monior to justify buying a 7950GX2? If you monitor is anything less than 22" you're wasting your money.

[deathvirus_me]

7950GX2 is not a very good buy ... unless u can pump up the res. to 1920*1600 or higher ... and have a CPU like FX62 or a oc'ed E6400 to cope ..

Plus , dx10 are almost here ... ur better off spending money on something like a 7900GT 256 MB , or a slightly higher 7950GT 512 MB ... and save over 10k's ...

[vikassethi]

Can anyone of you please give me some contact # or tell me some dealers from where I can buy one of the latest graphic cards in New Delhi.

[prateek_san]

guys please help me out....im planning to go for a Graphic card, thinking of Geforce 7800...wats the price ?......my system spec. is Intel Pentuim 4 2.8 Ghz HT, 915 GAG Mobo : it has PCI Express, 1.24 GB of RAM.....any other cards that u think of ? ....im a serious gamer..

[samrulez]

What's your budget.....the 7800 is already out dated....if you want a hight end card then get a 7900.....

And as u mentioned you are a ''serious'' gamer...then get a 7950 GT .... or a X1900XT :p

[Polter]

I'm using a PIV CPU 2.40 GHZ with 376 MB RAM with 64 MB Intel 82845G Graphics contoller, along with windows XP SP2. my motherboard model is 81845GVM - R2. I've also downloaded and used the latest drivers but whenever I try to run games such as Vitual Pool 3 or Mafia, the system hangs and I have to reboot. Can anyone help me out?

[aquamatrix]

how much is the 7950gt and 1900xt??

[samrulez]

X1900XT is about 25k's......Donno,,,,about the 7950GT>> :p

[drvarunmehta]

7950 is 33k.
IMO it's not worth spending so much on a DX9 card anymore. Maximum you should spend is 17k on a 7900GT.

What's the maximum resolution your monitor supports? If it's less than 1600x1200 then the 7950 is anyways not for you.

[aquamatrix]

i wud not be able to buy a dx10 card as i have heard they are gonna be very costly, i have got 20k with me and will wait till jan to get Gfx and a a gig of ram.

[drvarunmehta]

If you have only 20k then you anyways can't buy the X1900XT or the 7950GX2.
Still you should wai till DX10 cards release so you can buy a good DX9 card at a lower price.

[aquamatrix]

well i could extend my budget to 25k or maybe even more, i just want the best available gpu for my PC.

[akshayt]

To use the best available GPU you need 2GB RAM, in fact to fully use even mainstream cards you need 2GB.

The best bang for buck is 1900xt 24k + 2GB RAM, 7950
GX2 for 33000 is faster but has some drawbacks

[aquamatrix]

well i already have 1 gb and plan to get one more stick when i buy my gpu. but i am really confused on what gpu to get?????? :( :( gpu shud be under 20k though.

[drvarunmehta]

Under 20k means you can't get anything better than the 7900GT. You shouldn't even need anything more unless you have a really huge monitor.

[sabret00the]

Under 20k means you can't get anything better than the 7900GT. You shouldn't even need anything more unless you have a really huge monitor.

I got the Samsung 940 BW which is 19" wide and has a resol of 1440 x 900 @ 60Hz and 4ms response time.............dont u guys think one 7600GT shud be good for now and later on when prices come down maybe I can add another 7600GT............

Does anyone know when exactly are DX10 cards gonna be launched?Will they consume more power or less power than DX9 cards?Will they be more or less expensive?Will DX10 cards support SLI?Is SLI gonna stay?Say at this moment what is more prudent given my monitor shud I be waiting for a DX10 card?Is it worth the wait?

[aquamatrix]

1.they will consume more power
2. will cost 30k +
until an unles you have a huge budget, i wud suggest getting a 7900gt right now and add one more later ( even though two 7600 gt in sli wud run almost anything right now quite smoothly)
3. you might wanna get a new smps when you are going for an sli as 500 w may not be enough.

[drvarunmehta]

I got the Samsung 940 BW which is 19" wide and has a resol of 1440 x 900 @ 60Hz and 4ms response time.............dont u guys think one 7600GT shud be good for now and later on when prices come down maybe I can add another 7600GT............

Does anyone know when exactly are DX10 cards gonna be launched?Will they consume more power or less power than DX9 cards?Will they be more or less expensive?Will DX10 cards support SLI?Is SLI gonna stay?Say at this moment what is more prudent given my monitor shud I be waiting for a DX10 card?Is it worth the wait?
DX10 is going to be launched before the end of the year. No sense in waiting for DX10 unless you have atleast 25k to spend. For your monitor a 7600GT would be enough and you can add a second one later. But if you already know that you will be adding a second 7600GT you might as well buy a 7900GT which will give you the performance of 2 7600GT's.

[sabret00the]

you might wanna get a new smps when you are going for an sli as 500 w may not be enough.

Hey thanx to Aqua and Dhruv

well I was calculating my system power requirements at http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine
and it came to around 290 watts with one GPU(thats 7600 GT though) well with 2 7600 GTs in SLI mode it shud be around 357 watts.Further replacing the 7600 GT with a 7900GT shud push it to 297 watts (wow) which translates to performance of 2 7600 GT cards by consuming the power of 1 and again two 7900 GTs in SLI mode will require around 371 watts.So we may conclude that a 500 Watt smps shud be good enough for now......

[aquamatrix]

first i want to know one thing is the wattage same under idle and load settings??

[drvarunmehta]

Of course not. Under idle settings the power consumed is less than half.

[sabret00the]

@Aqua: which smps do u use?
@Dhruv: Dont u think the Zeb 500 W Platinum is good enough for a SLI system?

[drvarunmehta]

No it isn't. If a Zebronics PSU claims to provide 500W it probably provides only 400W. Better get an Antec NeoHE 550W to be safe.

[sabret00the]

No it isn't. If a Zebronics PSU claims to provide 500W it probably provides only 400W. Better get an Antec NeoHE 550W to be safe.

hmm!!!
If its so then there's nothing much I can do about it as I've already bought a Zeb Platinum.

[aquamatrix]

well i am using a smps that came with my cabby, as i havent bought a GPU yet my 400W smps is working for me now.

better not take a risk it man coz in sli power consumption can be quite high.

i plan to get the antec neohe 550W myself.

[deathvirus_me]

Dont u think the Zeb 500 W Platinum is good enough for a SLI system?

Noop .... for the SLi'ed systems , i can only recommend Antec or CoolerMaster ... even the SmartPower 2.0 series from Antec should do , but it'll be the utmost min. for super stability ...

well i could extend my budget to 25k or maybe even more, i just want the best available gpu for my PC.

Well .. for 20k's u can get a 7900GT ... and for 25k's u should definitely get the X1900XT , 512 MB

[goobimama]

I need some SMPS advice. The 7900GT is soon to arrive and I have just an iBall 400w smps.

My system config will be as follows:
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz
Intel 915
Audigy 2 ZS
2GB RAM
1 7900GT GFX card.

I wont be doing any overclocking so which SMPS would be the minimum that I should buy? I need something cheap but branded.

[deathvirus_me]

Well .. u can get a Antec TP2.0 430W psu ...

[goobimama]

What about the SmartPower 350W? Wouldn't that take the 7900GT? Reason is I hear this is consumes less power, much lower than the 7800GTX...

[deathvirus_me]

Yup , it'll .. it ran my old rig with the 6800GS ... ath the load diff at 100% load between the 6800GS and the 7900GT is under 10W ... i had a max. load of around 280W ... so it'll be under 300W anyday ... and can easily be handled by the Antec SP2.0 350W

[Tech Geek]

Can anyone tell me which is the best graphic card for 5-7K?

[samrulez]

Hmmm....in the PCIe platform???? Well the 7600GS.....7.5k /...

[sree007]

I have a gigabyte 2004 rz series motherboard. I now have a geforce 4 mx card. M/B has 1 AGP 4x slot. I have a budget of 3500 Rs. Which is the best card i can get?only agp.also plz specify a card if my budjet is 5000Rs.Can the 6600 non gt perform better than 6200?

[windchimes]

hi,

i need a gpu below 7k for running 3d applications which is compatible with AMD dual core X2. which one'll suit my needs..?? (n should i depend more on processor or on gpu for running 3d appln's ??)..plz help me...

regards
Windchimes

[aquamatrix]

7600 Gs for 7k

palit 7600 gt will be a much better choice , but its for 8.5k and little hard to find.

[kunaltg]

i own a pavilion t430i

it has 845 intel chipset without a pci express slot can any body help me .

i want to know can i get a 512mb pci interface graphics card and if yes then which one is the best and what can be the possible problems?

how much ram is required at present i have 256md ddr ram and i am thinking of upgading to 1 gb ram. againwhich one is best and whats the price?

plz reply

thankyou

[anilthomas26]

hey.......does anyone know where to get a 6800gs at ernakulam(cochin)....

and which is more costly?....the 6800gs or the 7600gt ????.......

atleast will i get the 6800gs at bangalore or something ????

[mayanksharma]

hehe ...Not any more...
I got Gainward 6600GT AGP Golden Sample yesterday.
Does this card has LED fan unit? Because, its not glowing like its previous counterparts! Secondly, em not able to see Enhanced Mode in Expert Tool utility in the driver tab!!

Edited: Actually, its ok. AGP variant dont ahve any led on cooling unit. And OC is possible from Expert Utility only..:P

[soumya]

My question is plain and simple.Suggest a graphics card under rs. 8500!

[vikrant1986]

@ mayanksharma

how much did u paid for 6600 GT ??

[mayanksharma]

well,i got this for 7500 bucks! And whats more, its GOLDEN SAMPLE! I got very stable score of 3628 in 3DMark 05! The only thing em worried about is its LED fan. I dont know whether it glows or not! Rest, this card is just awesome!!


Just overclocked it...:D

[monkey]

Hey, I just checked that www.yantraonline.in is selling MSI and GeCube graphics cards. Can somebody tell me how the prices look on this site?

[ashu888ashu888]

Hey guys,

I hv an Intel D865 GBF mobo with AGP slot and 256 MB DDR(266) RAM. I need to buy a graphics card under the price range of Rs. 8000-Rs. 8500/- AGP card only, Please suggest one. Preferably price and location too. Im in Mumbai, Goregaon.

Cheers n e-peace...

[samrulez]

man! I'm from Malad.. :) ...

Well I suggest get more ram maybe 512MB 400MHz or 1GB.....and get a cheaper gfx card....
Get a 6600LE .....for 3k....from Lamington Road..and buy more ram of the remaining money..

[lokeshakash]

please any one help me to buy a graphics card which is supported for intel 915gv express chipset.i am using a HP COMPAQ SR1530IL

[samrulez]

Budget???? I think your mobo has a PCIe slot....
get a 7600GS for 3.5k...or a 7600GS for 7k...or a 7600GT for 11k...

[aquamatrix]

make that 7300 gs for 3.5k

[kapal83]

Can anyone tell me which is the best graphic card for 5-7K?


Check GF 7300GT or GF 7600GS prices in the market. They currently the best in this price range.
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Hey guys,

I hv an Intel D865 GBF mobo with AGP slot and 256 MB DDR(266) RAM. I need to buy a graphics card under the price range of Rs. 8000-Rs. 8500/- AGP card only, Please suggest one. Preferably price and location too. Im in Mumbai, Goregaon.

Cheers n e-peace...

Call 28783569 / 70 - Ask for Gf 7600GS or Gf 6800XT AGP should get what you want.

[sabret00the]

hmm!!!
If its so then there's nothing much I can do about it as I've already bought a Zeb Platinum.

Well,I did see that Zebronics is the only Indian Vendor that is listed in the Official Nvidia and SLIzone websites

Link: http://www.nvidia.in/page/cv_zebronics.html
Link: http://in.slizone.com/page/home.html

Nvidia SLI Certified Partner in India is Zebronics http://in.slizone.com/object/slizone_buy_pre_built_zebronics_in.html

When Nvidia certifies Zebronics as one of its OEM vendors for SLI based systems,I guess I'm in a good situation:cool:
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Nvidia SLIZONE website lists only Zebronics as the OEM SLI-ed system supplier in INDIA.Moreover,the Platinum 500Watt SMPS is GAMING series from Zebronics its pretty expensive as well,since its certified by Nvidia guess its enough conformation for me.:cool:
Link: http://in.slizone.com/object/slizone_buy_pre_built_zebronics_in.html
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