All Graphics Cards related queries here.

[vickyiori]

Get the HD4870, Crossfire has lots of issues and many earlier games required multiple patches in fixing them, so unless you want to wait for 2-3 months after a new game is released better get HD4870, try to avoid Crossfire/SLI at all cost.

Hmmm.. Upgrading from 4850 to 4870 will be crap.. :???:

Still, I'll prefer CF. I have faith in ATI. :)

Besides the issue of 4850CF has been resolved in 8.5 drivers.

[imgame2]

Hmmm.. Upgrading from 4850 to 4870 will be crap.. :???:

Still, I'll prefer CF. I have faith in ATI. :)

Besides the issue of 4850CF has been resolved in 8.5 drivers.

issues are much more resolved with catalyst 8.10 ....which mobo u will use for crossfire and PSU ...?

[vickyiori]

issues are much more resolved with catalyst 8.10 ....which mobo u will use for crossfire and PSU ...?

Not decided yet.. current one it not worth the mention. :(

[ultimategpu]

Adding another HD4850 to my rig , after changing the mobo ,, , do i need to change the psu , cause i am using CM 600watts extreme power +AMD phenom x49550 (this crap uses more power?????:confused:)

????:confused:

[Jack Carvar]

Yup.......go for HX620W

[vickyiori]

^+1

[NIGHTMARE]

Adding another HD4850 to my rig , after changing the mobo ,, , do i need to change the psu , cause i am using CM 600watts extreme power +AMD phenom x49550 (this crap uses more power?????:confused:)

????:confused:

plz don't use crap word for AMD products

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

hey herd from redhat that he is adding another HD4850 by cross-fire. So can I SLI 9600GT 1GB and have double power may be with some other good graphics card and surpass 280GTx???????????
If I can SLI it, will it be compatible with my mobo INTEL D945GCNL /////////two Graphics card on one mobo///////////

[Jack Carvar]

hey herd from redhat that he is adding another HD4850 by cross-fire. So can I SLI 9600GT 1GB and have double power may be with some other good graphics card and surpass 280GTx???????????
If I can SLI it, will it be compatible with my mobo INTEL D945GCNL /////////two Graphics card on one mobo///////////

No you cant.

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

No you cant.

So I cant SLI it or it is not compatible with my mobo (neither CF nor SLI)?????\
:?:

[Jack Carvar]

So I cant SLI it or it is not compatible with my mobo (neither CF nor SLI)?????\
:?:

1. You cant SLi two different NVIDIA cards (eg. 9600GT and 9800GT) but you can SLi two same cards (three for very high end cards). BUT you can CF two different ATi cards (HD4670 and HD4870).

2. Sorry to say, but ur mobo neither supports CF nor Sli.

[ultimategpu]

plz don't use crap word for AMD products

hey i too love AMD but , comparing to core2duo its using much power so only i said like that , performance its superb except heat

[NIGHTMARE]

if intel write cpu TDP 65W the cpu goes up and in case of AMD the number never changes.

[desiibond]

1. You cant SLi two different NVIDIA cards (eg. 9600GT and 9800GT) but you can SLi two same cards (three for very high end cards). BUT you can CF two different ATi cards (HD4670 and HD4870).


fyi, Crossfiring cards like 4670 and 4870 is useless. It's like Ferrai F1 car stuck behind Force India F1 car.

4870 will run at speed of 4670 if you crossfire these two cards.

Logically, it's possible but technically, it's useless waste of money as you will never use full potential of 4870

[Jack Carvar]

fyi, Crossfiring cards like 4670 and 4870 is useless. It's like Ferrai F1 car stuck behind Force India F1 car.

4870 will run at speed of 4670 if you crossfire these two cards.

Logically, it's possible but technically, it's useless waste of money as you will never use full potential of 4870

Why so aggressive ? I just gave an example to make him understand better.

[desiibond]

I am not being aggressive, just letting know the disadvantages of CFing two different cards.

[Jack Carvar]

^^I know it very well. And ya, its a waste CFing 2 different cards bcoz the higher card runs slower. I think its a waste to SLi also coz the boost is hardly 20%. Though its improving a lot with new drivers.

[desiibond]

yes. Better wait for HD4850X2 that utilizes CF in a better way.

AS we all know that HD4870X2 made 100% jump over HD4870 in some games, utilizing full potential of CF.

And coming to single card setup, it's HD4850/HD4870 that is ruling the market now.

@@Vaibhav, GTX280 is on a totally different league. You can't make two budget cards perform like GTX280 just by SLI.

To match/outperform GTX280, you need a card like HD4870.

[Jack Carvar]

^^That too in CF :|.

[NIGHTMARE]

today i am going to purchase sapphire 4850 dual slot cooler on dhanteras

[Jack Carvar]

^^Thats great!

[desiibond]

^^ Good choice dude. 12k will be the max amount to pay for HD4850.

[Jack Carvar]

Palit's card is the best VFM @9.7k :)

[beta testing]

^^And it's also the coolest of the lot. :-)

[NIGHTMARE]

^^ Good choice dude. 12k will be the max amount to pay for HD4850.

i pay maximum 10500-10600 nai to jugad laga du ga :D

[Plasma_Snake]

Kya Jugad lagyega? ;)

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

So in Short shuld I buy PALIT Radeon™ HD 4850 1GB Sonic OR PALIT 9600GT 1GB SONIC
(though 9600gt has 700mhz core clock and 4850 has a 685mhz core clock ) on this Diwali occasion........
Well currently I have Rs 6500/- if less then Nightmare ki tahra Jugar laga du ga.

[frederick_benny_digit]

got a gb more of ram today....

3gb coupled with xtreme-g drivers giving games a significant boost....

[Jack Carvar]

So in Short shuld I buy PALIT Radeon™ HD 4850 1GB Sonic OR PALIT 9600GT 1GB SONIC
(though 9600gt has 700mhz core clock and 4850 has a 685mhz core clock ) on this Diwali occasion........
Well currently I have Rs 6500/- if less then Nightmare ki tahra Jugar laga du ga.

Are you mad or drunk ? Definitely HD4850. I think you are trying to compare HD4670 and mistyped it as HD4850. Coz HD4850 beats the living hell out of 9600GT.

[beta testing]

So in Short shuld I buy PALIT Radeon™ HD 4850 1GB Sonic OR PALIT 9600GT 1GB SONIC
(though 9600gt has 700mhz core clock and 4850 has a 685mhz core clock ) on this Diwali occasion........
Well currently I have Rs 6500/- if less then Nightmare ki tahra Jugar laga du ga.

I think you made a typo there. It's probably the 4670 you wanted to mention.
For a budget of 6.5K, the XpertVision 9600GT will be available.

[NIGHTMARE]

Guys purchased SAPPHIRE 4850 Click Me (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=975583&postcount=2528)

[ultimategpu]

Guys purchased SAPPHIRE 4850 Click Me (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=975583&postcount=2528)

congrats buddy :p happy gaming

:) Guys
wish u a many more Happy Diwali , may all wish comes true :)

[desiibond]

^^Wish you the same dude.

[NIGHTMARE]

Thank u guys

[bassam904]

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[ultimategpu]

Thank u guys


what game did u play first , after getting the HD 4850

[Jack Carvar]

For Benchamarking, play this :-

1. Crysis
2. Crysis Warhead
3. Far Cry 2
4. Call of Jaurez
5. Race Driver GRID

CoD4 isnt actually a benchmarking game coz its not too heavy on ur system. Runs at 68FPS avg on max with no AA @1440x900 on my 8800GT.

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

So I am all set for hd 4850, (have a mobo - INTEL D945GCNL).
Which brand would be the cheapest for 4850 1gb sapphire....?????
And how much will it cost in Nehru Place coz the prices are pretty down to earth.....
Thanx

[desiibond]

I think XpertVision or Zotac will be the cheapest.

But don't fall for price. Check what kind of memory it has and memory bandwidth etc.

I would say, go for Palit or Sapphire.

[NIGHTMARE]

CRYSIS play lit bit but now beast enter in my system so play hard i hope no crysis this time for graphics

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

I think XpertVision or Zotac will be the cheapest.

But don't fall for price. Check what kind of memory it has and memory bandwidth etc.

I would say, go for Palit or Sapphire.

So how much will Palit hd 4850 I gb Sonic would cost in Nehru place. Which PSU should I go for and how much will it cost. Pls tell the cost that is in Nehru Place.

[Jack Carvar]

^^Approx. 12-13k.

Get a CM EP 500W PSU

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

CRYSIS play lit bit but now beast enter in my system so play hard i hope no crysis this time for graphics

Hey Nightmare how much did ur 4850 cost & from where did u buy ... did u also purchase a PSU....?

[NIGHTMARE]

@10450 with tax without tax 9800 got from Bangalore no PSU purchase

[Ei8t]

hey guys bot a new rig...
Proccy :E7200
GPU :Palit HD4850
Mobo : gigabyte
PSU : CM 600 watts
Cabby : Zebronics bijli
HDD : Seagate 640 GB 32mb buffer
Ram : 3gb 800 mhz (2+1)

i got the 8.7 drivers for the 4850 in the cd and i want to upgrade to the latest drivers. can i directly install the 8.10 drivers or should i install 8.8 then 8.9 and then 8.10???

[beta testing]

For Benchamarking, play this :-

1. Crysis
2. Crysis Warhead
3. Far Cry 2
4. Call of Jaurez
5. Race Driver GRID

CoD4 isnt actually a benchmarking game coz its not too heavy on ur system. Runs at 68FPS avg on max with no AA @1440x900 on my 8800GT.

Call of Juarez is a game for benchmarking?? I don't think so. It doesn't require a high end gfx card to play with all the eye candy. It works fine even on the 66xx series from Nvidia.

[desiibond]

My list of games for benchmarking:

1) Far Cry 2
2) F.E.A.R
3) Call of Duty 4
4) GRID
5) Oblivion 4
6) Crysis

[Jack Carvar]

Call of Juarez is a game for benchmarking?? I don't think so. It doesn't require a high end gfx card to play with all the eye candy. It works fine even on the 66xx series from Nvidia.

umm.... actually its a DX10 game and when u enable DX10, it is very taxing :)

and ya, add Oblivion to the list. Very intensive game.

[ultimategpu]

Thank u guys


what is ur motherboard price ???

[NIGHTMARE]

when i purchased motherboard is 15000 and processor 16000

[comp@ddict]

So I am all set for hd 4850, (have a mobo - INTEL D945GCNL).
Which brand would be the cheapest for 4850 1gb sapphire....?????
And how much will it cost in Nehru Place coz the prices are pretty down to earth.....
Thanx


What's ur monitor resolution?

If less than 1920x1200, paying extra 2-3k for the 1GB variant will be a complete waste!

[dipesh8thgrade]

hey ppl wazz d diffrence btwyn a 9500gt n a 8600gt?which is beter from zotac.i wanna buy 1

[beta testing]

The 9500GT was meant to replace the 8500GT, although it performs better than the 8600GT. But seriously, instead of the 9500GT, you should buy a 4670 or spend some more and get a 9600GT.

[Psychosocial]

^^Ture. Buy a Palit HD4670

[tanmoy_Siliguri]

yah.....guys yesterday I bought Palit HD4670...its performance really really very good.........but I have a complain abt it.....its comes with just the card & the driver-cd just...not dvi-vga converter,no cable...though its have a HDMI o/p but dont have a HDMI cable........

[beta testing]

XFX generally provides the best bundle.

[tkin]

XFX generally provides the best bundle.
EVGA also provides a lot, in my case EVGA gave 2 DVI-VGA adapter, 2 Molex-PCIe connector, Driver CD containing latest Drivers(non-WHQL) and EVGA "Precision" Overclocking tool, it also came with unregistered version of FRAPS.
Not to mention TV out ports, it didn't came with a HDMI adaptor though, in US they provide only 1 DVI-VGA adaptor and 1 HDMI adapter.

XFX provides a cool "Do Not Disturb" sign though, wish I had one.

[Psychosocial]

^^I have one :D. Its kool !!

I says "I am gaming, do not disturb". lol!

@beta testing
Yus, XFX does provide a good bundle but it dosent make ATI cards :|. And BTW, ASUS provides best bundles IMO. All cards come with connectors, driver CDs, a cool CD case and a mouse pad. High-end cards are bundled with games too!

[frederick_benny_digit]

actual gaming mouspad??? like steelseries type??? or 1 of those 20 buks pad ??

[Psychosocial]

one with ASUS written on it :D

[KaranTh85]

I m thinking of buying a new mobo,proccy,cabinet,RAM(coz u know frm my siggy :cry:)

so, tell me hows the AMD Phemon X4 + Gigabyte 780G mobo + 3GB Transcend RAM
will it be ok for me as normal gamer...:cool:

also..will the HD4XXX series Gcards r compatible with it 4 hybrid crossfire...:confused:

[NIGHTMARE]

In ATI the Sapphire,Gecube and Powercolour these brand provide full bundles of stuff bcoz i purchased all product of these company but the u purchased palit brand or go for sonic version 1 critical thing is missing in package cross fire bridge

[girish_b]

I'm facing a dilemma - between Palit Hd 4850 and Palit Hd 4870 Sonic. I was all set to take the 4850 card, but - When I read Digit this month, the Palit 4870 is stuck in my mind as well.

Palit hd 4870 will look cool in my transparent sidepanel cabinet, but at the same time, the 4850 dosen't look that much of a beauty (even though it's pretty much neck to neck with the 4870 in case of performance)

[Psychosocial]

I'm facing a dilemma - between Palit Hd 4850 and Palit Hd 4870 Sonic. I was all set to take the 4850 card, but - When I read Digit this month, the Palit 4870 is stuck in my mind as well.

Palit hd 4870 will look cool in my transparent sidepanel cabinet, but at the same time, the 4850 dosen't look that much of a beauty (even though it's pretty much neck to neck with the 4870 in case of performance)

Neck to neck in performance ? Are you nuts ? HD4870 is around 40-50% faster than HD4850 in any game. Go read some reputed sites' reviews. And if you have the cash, go for Palit HD4870 SONIC eyes closed. Best high end VFM card right now.

[girish_b]

Neck to neck in performance ? Are you nuts ? HD4870 is around 40-50% faster than HD4850 in any game. Go read some reputed sites' reviews. And if you have the cash, go for Palit HD4870 SONIC eyes closed. Best high end VFM card right now.

Based on the tests, the average fps ratings were quite similar.. (From Digit's test in this month's Diwali edition)
I think the vendor has already ordered the 4850, If not I will definitely go for the 4870..

[Psychosocial]

ok fine

I m thinking of buying a new mobo,proccy,cabinet,RAM(coz u know frm my siggy :cry:)

so, tell me hows the AMD Phemon X4 + Gigabyte 780G mobo + 3GB Transcend RAM
will it be ok for me as normal gamer...:cool:

also..will the HD4XXX series Gcards r compatible with it 4 hybrid crossfire...:confused:

How about E7200+XFX 630i+2GB DDR2 667MHz RAM+Palit HD4670 ? Will be better than the above and humanly priced too!

E7200 --> 5.4k
XFX 630i --> 3.4k
2GB RAM --> 1.8k
Palit HD4670 --> 5.6k

Will give u amazing gaming (considering a budget rig).

[girish_b]

So what should I go for? palit 4850 or 4870?

[Psychosocial]

HD4870 obviously

[NIGHTMARE]

4870 with 1GB

[Psychosocial]

^^If he's going to game <1680x1050 res. than 1GB of frame buffer is useless IMO.... but I can be wrong :|.

[girish_b]

1 gb is gonna be a lot useful when playing games in ultra high resolutions. I'm not much of a gamer, So I think I won't need it.

Anyway I'll go for a 4870.

Thanks!!

[KaranTh85]

ok fine



How about E7200+XFX 630i+2GB DDR2 667MHz RAM+Palit HD4670 ? Will be better than the above and humanly priced too!

E7200 --> 5.4k
XFX 630i --> 3.4k
2GB RAM --> 1.8k
Palit HD4670 --> 5.6k

Will give u amazing gaming (considering a budget rig).

well ur config looks cool but what if i add HD4850 with my above config...:rolleyes:

[Psychosocial]

^^Still C2Ds beat the hell out of X4s in gaming.

[KaranTh85]

^^Still C2Ds beat the hell out of X4s in gaming.

True..but C2D E7200 & the 630i mobo is not future..proof...:D
also 780G is way better than 630i if im not wrong...:cool:

[Psychosocial]

^^Ya it is. And nothing is future proof. With Nehalem on the doorstep, all these current proccys will be phased out. Right now, C2Ds are definitely more VFM. Its upto you then...

[bassam904]

@karan
you should mention your budget to make it easier to decide wats best for you.:-)

[KaranTh85]

@Bassam: Budget is 20k w/o Gcard...also i consider multithreading...& future proof...:D

[NIGHTMARE]

^^If he's going to game <1680x1050 res. than 1GB of frame buffer is useless IMO.... but I can be wrong :|.

4870 needs 1GB RAM to perform free if saw the the benchmark of 4870 512MB and 4870 1Gb there is huge difference.512 is not sufficient for 4870.
1 gb is gonna be a lot useful when playing games in ultra high resolutions. I'm not much of a gamer, So I think I won't need it.

Anyway I'll go for a 4870.

Thanks!!

if u purchased 4870 !GB its future proof other wise no problem with 512MB both r value for money

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

Well guys couldn't buy 4850 Due family probs -are mad wasting 10000 on this ........ bla bla.-
So thinking to buy any thing between 6000-6500 pls suggest some graphics cards for playing new games like NFS Undercover, CRYSIS Warhead.........

[Mike84]

Well, at that budget, the best card that you can get is the 9600GT. Preferably an per-overclocked one. Zotac AMP! edition or the Palit Sonic edition. Both are great VFM. Though if you really want to enjoy the beauty of the newer games, you should some how manage to get atleast a Palit Sonic 4850.
9600GT AMP/SSC/Sonic are great cards that will run anything that comes out this year or atleast till half of next year. But you cannot max out most of the current games on it. You have to play either at a lower resolution or lower detailing.
Though if you can SLI it later, it does perform near or may surpass the HD4870 in some games. That is considering you have an SLI board.
If you have a crossfire board, definitely beg with your family to get the sonic 4850. A crossfire of them will give some outrageous performance enough to last you over an year in pretty good detailing in good resolutions. ;)
If you have just one slot, i would say try and get the Palit Sonic HD4850. Its around 9.5K (i guess). If your family persists, IMO get the 9600GT AMP!/sonic. :)

Guys,

Am trying to get a good gaming PC (with tight budget). Please help me out with a configuration. I was waiting for the pujas to get the PC, but as you all know the market crashed and the prices went up. Am planning to get the PC on the Children's Day weekend (nothing special for the occasion ;), will be returning to Kolkata that time).
I need your opinion as to if it is fine to get the PC at this time? or should i wait more? :(
Market really is not showing any signs of getting up. Am a big fan on NFS and want to be ready when Undercover comes out. :cool:

Thinking of:

Proccy: E8400/E8500
Mobo: MSI P45 Zilent/Asus P5Q Pro
RAM: (2X1GB) corsair dual channel ram 800 Mhz
HDD: 500GB Seagate/WD with 32 Mb cache
PSU: dont want to spend a fortune on it but need a good one. Please suggest
Cabby: Zebronics Bijli (anything else good but cheap?) need one with good air flow
GCard: 512 MB HD4850 Sonic/HD4870 Sonic (not decided)
[PS: actually was thinking of HD4850 sonic, but it requires an 8pin PCIe connector, for which i require a costly PSU. but for HD4870 sonic, i need 2 6 pin PCIe connectors, which i can get from a PSU at a cheaper price and higher power. So in a stiff]
Mon: 19" with good contrast ratio and low response time, but not very costly. Was thinking Samsung McKinley mons, but quite confused there too.
All this plus a DVD writer.. Asus may be.

Please send recomendations to optimize my selection. Also if i should buy on 14th Nov or should wait even more?

Thanks in advance :)

[Psychosocial]

Well, at that budget, the best card that you can get is the 9600GT. Preferably an per-overclocked one. Zotac AMP! edition or the Palit Sonic edition. Both are great VFM. Though if you really want to enjoy the beauty of the newer games, you should some how manage to get atleast a Palit Sonic 4850.
9600GT AMP/SSC/Sonic are great cards that will run anything that comes out this year or atleast till half of next year. But you cannot max out most of the current games on it. You have to play either at a lower resolution or lower detailing.
Though if you can SLI it later, it does perform near or may surpass the HD4870 in some games. That is considering you have an SLI board.
If you have a crossfire board, definitely beg with your family to get the sonic 4850. A crossfire of them will give some outrageous performance enough to last you over an year in pretty good detailing in good resolutions. ;)
If you have just one slot, i would say try and get the Palit Sonic HD4850. Its around 9.5K (i guess). If your family persists, IMO get the 9600GT AMP!/sonic. :)

Guys,

Am trying to get a good gaming PC (with tight budget). Please help me out with a configuration. I was waiting for the pujas to get the PC, but as you all know the market crashed and the prices went up. Am planning to get the PC on the Children's Day weekend (nothing special for the occasion ;), will be returning to Kolkata that time).
I need your opinion as to if it is fine to get the PC at this time? or should i wait more? :(
Market really is not showing any signs of getting up. Am a big fan on NFS and want to be ready when Undercover comes out. :cool:

Thinking of:

Proccy: E8400/E8500
Mobo: MSI P45 Zilent/Asus P5Q Pro
RAM: (2X1GB) corsair dual channel ram 800 Mhz
HDD: 500GB Seagate/WD with 32 Mb cache
PSU: dont want to spend a fortune on it but need a good one. Please suggest
Cabby: Zebronics Bijli (anything else good but cheap?) need one with good air flow
GCard: 512 MB HD4850 Sonic/HD4870 Sonic (not decided)
[PS: actually was thinking of HD4850 sonic, but it requires an 8pin PCIe connector, for which i require a costly PSU. but for HD4870 sonic, i need 2 6 pin PCIe connectors, which i can get from a PSU at a cheaper price and higher power. So in a stiff]
Mon: 19" with good contrast ratio and low response time, but not very costly. Was thinking Samsung McKinley mons, but quite confused there too.
All this plus a DVD writer.. Asus may be.

Please send recomendations to optimize my selection. Also if i should buy on 14th Nov or should wait even more?

Thanks in advance :)

E8400
ASUS P5Q Pro
2x2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz RAM
Palit HD4870 1GB SONIC
Corsair HX520W PSU
WD Caviar SE16 640GB HDD
CM Elite 330 Cabby
Dell 198WFP 19" LCD Monitor
LG H55n DVD-RW
Logitech Gaming G1 Desktop (kbd/mouse)
Altec Lansing BXR1121 2.1 speakers

[Mike84]

Thanks... thats one solid system.
Actually was thinking of lowering the budget. I mean i am allowed to use 50-55K max(that should be including tax).
The 1 GB version with CM cabby and corsair PSU(which actually i needed it for HD4850 sonic) puts it beyond that at present. I already have a pretty good keyboard and mice pair(non-gaming but served me well in many games :) ). So wont go for that. I have a sony headphone (a good one), so wont require speakers(as of now).
Any idea how to optimize the selection within 50-55K? Cant go beyond :(

[Psychosocial]

Thanks... thats one solid system.
Actually was thinking of lowering the budget. I mean i am allowed to use 50-55K max(that should be including tax).
The 1 GB version with CM cabby and corsair PSU(which actually i needed it for HD4850 sonic) puts it beyond that at present. I already have a pretty good keyboard and mice pair(non-gaming but served me well in many games :) ). So wont go for that. I have a sony headphone (a good one), so wont require speakers(as of now).
Any idea how to optimize the selection within 50-55K? Cant go beyond :(

E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB DDR2 800MHz
WD Caviar SE16 640GB HDD
Palit HD4850 SONIC
Cosair HX520W
CM Elite 330 cabinet
Dell E198WFP 19" LCD

[Plasma_Snake]

Well my config is in my siggy, do you think I would have got the same performance as I'm getting now at much lower price. Price list when I bought was:


Processor- E8400 - 7,850
Mobo- ASUS P5QC -10,000
GPU- MSI R4850 - 10,200
RAM- Patriot 2x2GB 800MHz DDR2 - 3,500
HDD - WD 640 AACS- 3,600
Cabinet- CM690 - 3,800
PSU- Corsair TX750 - 7,500
UPS- APC 1KVA Smart Series - 12,500

Just wanted to know if had down sized it a bit then could've saved money for a a display or not? ;) :D

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

So Mike84 I would not be able to play new games at high resolution with 9600GT then its a waste. So probably I am gona wait a little for 4850. Well which brand would be the cheapest for 1GB 4850. Any Benefits of 1GB????????
Thanks for da suggestion.

[desiibond]

^^ Not much benefit as of now. Cheapest should be XpretVision or Zotac or Palit. Sapphire is the best in terms of quality. You can go for MSI or ASUS if you are ready to pay more.

[Ei8t]

hey guys i need some help.. i want to update my lappy's gpu driver but i m not getting the appropriate one in the websites. its nvidia 8400M GS. searched many sites even nvidia's but coudn't find any.. can u please tell where can i get it... thanks...

[comp@ddict]

well, u won't too. Download the latest forceware, get Mobility Modder, use it on the latest Driver files, and then install them. That's it!

[Mike84]

Hi Vaibhav,
What is the exact resolution that you would be playing your games in? If it is like 1280X1024 or less a 9600GT sonic is quite enough for ~30+ fps.
HD4850 1 GB has a small performance gain over the 512 MB version. The card has better design(architecture) making much it cooler than the referrance 512MB version. Also, if you can get one with a non-referance cooler, it shows a very high overclockability which was uncommon for the ATI cards. The higher frame buffer though comes into playonly where huge amounts of texture and all are loaded at the same time(games like Crysis and Far Cry). For the rest, without overclocking, i would prefer the 512MB HD4850 sonic or toxic editions over the stock 1GB version.

E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB DDR2 800MHz
WD Caviar SE16 640GB HDD
Palit HD4850 SONIC
Cosair HX520W
CM Elite 330 cabinet
Dell E198WFP 19" LCD

@ Kpower

Thanks, but i do want a crossfire mobo. I would certainly want the option for getting GTX280+ performance in near future when the card becomes a lil cheaper and games become more demanding :cool: . First question regarding this. Is the CM Elite 330 cabinet really required? I don't know the price but won't a cheaper zebrnic bijli or shaadi cabinet do good at around 1K?I mean they seem to have good airflow with front and back fans(with blue led too :D ). Second question, with 32 bit operating systems recognizing only upto 3GB of ram, will it better to get the 2X2GB Transcend sticks or the 2X1GB corsair dual channel paired ram sticks. I mean which one will perform better?

[desiibond]

^^ I have Zebronics Geforce cabinet with 400W PSU and I changed the PSU thrice in 2years.

The connectors fail a lot. Get CoolerMaster cabinet and SMPS.

RAM: Go for Kingston atleast. RAM is not just about speed and price. A good RAM will have lower access times and tighter timings, stability on overclock, longer life. I would suggest Kingston for value and OCZ/Corsair for performance.

P45Neo-F is not a crossfire mobo. It has terrific VFM.

you want to buy GTX280 in the future?? Get other components that can support it. having such a powerful card combined with value hardware does not make any sense at all. Believe me, you will be looking at better hardware to get more out of GTX280 if you get cheap hardware now.

hey guys i need some help.. i want to update my lappy's gpu driver but i m not getting the appropriate one in the websites. its nvidia 8400M GS. searched many sites even nvidia's but coudn't find any.. can u please tell where can i get it... thanks...

What is the model number of your laptop?

[Mike84]

Hmm thanks for the advice man. I would go got CM cabinet, but i think the corsair PSU would better suite me as thats the cheapest with a dedicated 8pin pcie connector. Any idea if a 6 pin pcie can do the job for the 8pin power socket on palit sonic HD4850 properly?

Well u misunderstood me. I wanted a crossfire mobo so that i could get another sonic 4850 later so that i can get GTX280+(more than GTX 280 :D) performance. I am getting P45 crossfire chipset man, why would i be wasting money over a GTX 280 when i can get similar performance with a pair of sonic 4850's :D And yes, when i do go for crossfire, i would upgrade the psu too. :)

[desiibond]

For crossfire, you can get MSI P45 Neo2.

I think you can fit Corsair PSU in CM cabinet.

You won't get a 100% increase in performance if you add a second HD4850. If you want more over a long period of time, get HD4870.

[Mike84]

I know i won't get a 100% performance gain. I saw somewhere that one would be getting around 60-70% gain on average on a 8X-8X crossfire config. and a 85-90% on average performance gain on a 16X-16X config. I dont think GTX 280 would be able to beat even the former crossfire(P45 config) in many games. I would love to get the palit sonic 4870, but am tight on budget man. If i get that, i need to sacrifice on the cabby and psu.
BTW... you said that u had problems with zebronics PSU. What if i put corsair PSU in a Zebronics cabby? Sorry, I seriously am a little dumb on the cabinet info part, as i dont quite know the difference between the coolermaster one and any other one with same number of fans. Is it the hardness of body? design? material? ??? :confused: How can one be just 1000 and another be 3000?

[desiibond]

the max that you will save by putting corsair PSU in zeb cabinet is 500 bucks.

The main advantage with Cooler Master Elite 330 is Tool-Free mechanical design for quick assembly and maintenance. I do have headache with zebronic's slot openings for PCI cards. Not so good and HDD bay is not good too. really bad screw layout. It will be lot better for Cooler Master.

On top of that the body is rugged and good on looks, you get 120mm fans in the front and rear

http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&id=30

Click on gallery and you will find the layout of the cabinet.

for GPU, go for HD4850 for now. If needed you can get a second card.

[comp@ddict]

^^ I have Zebronics Geforce cabinet with 400W PSU and I changed the PSU thrice in 2years.

The connectors fail a lot. Get CoolerMaster cabinet and SMPS.

RAM: Go for Kingston atleast. RAM is not just about speed and price. A good RAM will have lower access times and tighter timings, stability on overclock, longer life. I would suggest Kingston for value and OCZ/Corsair for performance.

P45Neo-F is not a crossfire mobo. It has terrific VFM.

you want to buy GTX280 in the future?? Get other components that can support it. having such a powerful card combined with value hardware does not make any sense at all. Believe me, you will be looking at better hardware to get more out of GTX280 if you get cheap hardware now.



What is the model number of your laptop?

And on top of that, GTX280 is nvr gonna get too much cheaper

It's already 28k, from 44k!!!!

[bassam904]

^^
seems ATi is currently the right way to Go.....

[comp@ddict]

Ejaktly!

[Mike84]

Thanks for the info. Check out the bijli cabby from this page
http://www.zebronics.net/gamingcabin.asp
Looks wise frankly i am attracted towards the 120 mm blue led fan in front, and its meshed like the Elite 330. bijli has 2 side fans and none at the back while the CM cabby has another 120mm fan at the back but no side fans.
But if you say it has those internal problems, i agree, the 500-600 price premium is more than justified for the CM cabby. I would certainly go for the CM one.
Thanks :)

Yeah i would go for the palit sonic 4850. pretty much the best VFM variation of the card. any idea if i need the corsair 520W psu for the 8 pin pcie requirement? or is there any other alternative that i take through a CM route in same or lower price? btw whats the price anyways? :D

Well that decides my full system more or less. Just my most baci question left. Is the time of mid Nov OK for buying a system or should i wait for the market to calm down? Dec will see Denebs and Nehalms with X58s but the coreespnding price drop of other items would reach india well into next yr may be end jan or feb. I certainly cant wait that long. What you think?

[Ei8t]

hi guys.. i purchased a hd4850 sunday but the driver i got in the cd was 8.512.00 and i want to update it. now can u tell me is it ok if i install the 8.10 drivers directly or shud i install the next 8.6 and subsequent drivers and proceed to 8.10??:confused: thanks..

[Plasma_Snake]

Dude 8.11 Beta is out, Fcuk 8.10! Moreover these 8.11 is said to improve FPS by 10% in games like Farcry2, Clear Sky and also fixes the screen blacking out problem in BiA-HH's Black Friday level.

[desiibond]

yes. I do prefer CM cabinet.

Palit HD4850 Power Supply Unit Requirement:
450 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI-Express® power connectors recommended (550 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX® technology in dual mode)

CM 600W SMPS RP-600-PCAP comes with two PCI-E 6 Pin connectors.

Corsair 520W SMPS HX520W comes with PCI-E 6+2 pin connectors.

But for HD4850 Sonic, 500 Watt or greater power supply with 150W 8-pin PCI-Express® power connectors recommended

This means that if you want to buy Sonic edition, you need Corsair PSU.

Sonic edition is factory overclocked edition with a bigger and better cooler.

Palit says:

Radeon™ HD 4850 Sonic comes with Palit's innovative cooling system with two-ball bearing PWM fan, heat-pipes, and superior copper base to ensure high performance, trustworthy thermal effect. The 3-Phase PWM power circuit on Palit HD 4850 Sonic provides a more sufficient and stable energy distribution system and this power circuit further combines the 8-pin power connector whichis able tosupports up to 150W sufficient power therefore allows a ultimate overclocking potential with stability.

Corsair PSU's are little bit costly when compared to CM. 520W should cost around 5k.

You can also chec Antec EA650 650W which costs less than 5k. has One (6+2) PCI-E connector

Make sure that if you get a PSU with top fan, you get cabinet that goes with it.

hi guys.. i purchased a hd4850 sunday but the driver i got in the cd was 8.512.00 and i want to update it. now can u tell me is it ok if i install the 8.10 drivers directly or shud i install the next 8.6 and subsequent drivers and proceed to 8.10??:confused: thanks..

Go ahead and install 8.10

[Ei8t]

:)thanks for ur quick reply desibond... i m downloading the display drivers.. is it necessary to download the catalyst control center fot this driver?? thanks..

[desiibond]

yes. better download catalyst control center too as it is necessary to tweak and change settings of your GPU.

[Ei8t]

hey sorry buddy i forgot to ask one thing shud i install the new driver directly or shud i uninstall the old one?? thanks..

[desiibond]

You can do upgrade. no need to uninstall and install.

[tanmoy_Siliguri]

I am going to say someyhing.....that a guy who bought a graphics card with cost 20k or above..is it make a future proof? becoz now-a-days after 2 or less than 2 year every high end card also became worthless...then what...he have to buy a new one..then what abt the previous one which he bought abt 20k...he have to sell it..& will get very less money...so If A card can't play upto 3 or more years,then what is def of future-proof..

exm=now a 6800xt card can't play crysis just in high mode...but it was a high-end card just before 2 years(as my friend has a 6800xt card)...........

[desiibond]

yes. a GPU cannot last for two year unless the card is like GTX280 or HD4870x2.

That is why a gaming console is receommended for those who doesn't want to change gaming h/w for years. life of a gaming console is around 5 years.

[Plasma_Snake]

But cards can stick around if know how to properly use 'em. Look at 8800GT, its like a Muscle car, its old but still kickin' :D

[Psychosocial]

^^It still plays games at max settings (except the Crysis and Warhead sh1t).... ANY game !! Even FC2 on Very High @1440x900 :D.

[desiibond]

how old is this card? 1yr?

[Psychosocial]

Around 1.3yrs

[comp@ddict]

Well, 8800GT ruled in it's golden era, a few months ago.

Forget that, courtesy HD4850

[tanvir]

hi guys !
i brought Far Cry2 this weekend....when the game starts there is a popup window saying "Your video card drivers are too old. Please update them".
i have checked the nvidia website and had even googled it but couldn't find anything.......i have NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS.
please help me......

[Psychosocial]

hi guys !
i brought Far Cry2 this weekend....when the game starts there is a popup window saying "Your video card drivers are too old. Please update them".
i have checked the nvidia website and had even googled it but couldn't find anything.......i have NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS.
please help me......

I dunno if Mobile and Desktop grafix are different but still, here's a link to the latest :-

http://www.gamershell.com/news_63134.html

[desiibond]

^^ Get 178.24 version of nvidia drivers. That should fix the problem.
for vista: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_178.24_whql.html

size: 85MB

[Psychosocial]

^^180.43 are latest which are specially designed to give a 30% boost in FC2.

[iyuvabharat]

i have a intel DG965RY with psu 25amps and 12v of 450 watts (standard atx)
my budget is 6000 rupees not including psu , i have dual core processor with 2gb ram
and iam strict about my budget not an inch more, iam tight here

[Psychosocial]

i have a intel DG965RY with psu 25amps and 12v of 450 watts (standard atx)
my budget is 6000 rupees not including psu , i have dual core processor with 2gb ram
and iam strict about my budget not an inch more, iam tight here

Palit HD4670

And ya, you MIGHT need a new PSU. Look at CoolerMaster EP 500W for that.

[desiibond]

^^180.43 are latest which are specially designed to give a 30% boost in FC2.

ah okay. I was able to find only the beta drivers.

[tanvir]

hey boss.........i tried downloading the file from gamershell.com but that didn't work
an error popped-up...it says"The NVIDIA setup program couldn't locate any drivers that are compatible with your current hardware. Setup will now exit"
what do i do now????

[Psychosocial]

hey boss.........i tried downloading the file from gamershell.com but that didn't work
an error popped-up...it says"The NVIDIA setup program couldn't locate any drivers that are compatible with your current hardware. Setup will now exit"
what do i do now????

That means Lappy drivers are diferent than Desktops. Download the link that desiibond gave. His solutions always work !!

[bassam904]

^^
Try to use the nvidia auto driver search on their website

[tanvir]

earlier i have tried the desibond link but that one's not for laptop....if u go n check on products supported then u won't get 8400'M' GS and when i try installing that it gives me the same error

[DigitalDude]

^^^^
did you try searching in the laptop brand website ?

which is your brand ? Dell ? HP?

_

[desiibond]

Found this for dell : http://www.drivershq.com/Drivers/VistaDevices/DELL-Video-nVidia-GeForce-8400M-DRIVER/7806/Drivers.aspx

and this for HP: http://www.drivershq.com/Drivers/VistaDevices/HP-NVIDIA-GeForce-8400M-8600M-GS-Video-Driver/15109/Drivers.aspx

[tanmoy_Siliguri]

i have a intel DG965RY with psu 25amps and 12v of 450 watts (standard atx)
my budget is 6000 rupees not including psu , i have dual core processor with 2gb ram
and iam strict about my budget not an inch more, iam tight here

I also have Intel DG965RY,Pentium-D(2.8Ghz),2GB 667Mhz...& just 3 days ago i replaced my old Asus-7300LE card with a Pailt-HD4670 card...& I am very very much happy with its performance.....i also suggest u to take this card...very good performance in Far Cry-2,Crysis etc..also normally its core temp is 35C when Playing just 50C....very cool budget gaming card...

[Psychosocial]

Yup.... Palit HD4670 is a good card indeed.

[ayush002]

can any1 tell me the fps of 4670 @ 1440*900 in far cry2 nd warhead

[tkin]

can any1 tell me the fps of 4670 @ 1440*900 in far cry2 nd warhead
Haven't played Far Cry 2 but from the reviews I can say it should run well.

Warhead should give you some REAL trouble, just finished playing it twice. Try running everything at Medium or some settings @ gamer and some @ medium with AA off.

And I remind you that Warhead has some real issues with ATI cards, seems they do horrible in this game. The game itself is buggy, in some parts of the Ice levels there was slow down with my config even @ 1024x768, which was caused by memory leaks, if you see any sudden excessive slow downs just save and restart the game to get rid of memory leaks.

You need to keep tweaking the settings to get good FPS, and expect about 20-40% less FPS in ICE levels than in jungle levels.

[Ei8t]

HD4850 all the way..........
:D

[tanvir]

hey guys
i visited the http://www.drivershq.com/Drivers/VistaDevices/HP-NVIDIA-GeForce-8400M-8600M-GS-Video-Driver/15109/Drivers.aspx
and there i was asked to download driver detective....when i had installed that software it asked me for registration and the product key....is it a freeware or i need to pay them something.....
________________________________________

by the way my laptop's config.....is
hp dv6516tx 1.5 core2duo, 2 GB RAM, 160 GB hard disk, NVIDIA 8400M GS 128 MB dedicated......

[rahuljin]

hey, i get the money now, 12k(+1 max). so now i want to buy palit 4850 -----

512mb, sonic, 1gb. which one and please also tell the price ?? (will buy it from nehru place, delhi)

[Psychosocial]

hey, i get the money now, 12k(+1 max). so now i want to buy palit 4850 -----

512mb, sonic, 1gb. which one and please also tell the price ?? (will buy it from nehru place, delhi)

Palit HD4850 SONIC 512MB for 9.7k 8)

[tkin]

Palit HD4850 SONIC 512MB for 9.7k 8)
His max budget is 13k, shouldn't the Palit HD4850 1GB Sonic fit? It has 1GB memory which should increase FPS in high resolutions with AA turned on.

[desiibond]

can you get Palit 1Gb sonic inside 12k. I think you can :)

[Psychosocial]

But if he's going to game <1440x900 then it will be useless so better off saving money and buying something else. If he's going above 1440x900 then definitely 1GB.

[desiibond]

True. in that case, you better stick to the cheapest Palit/sapphire 4850 you can get and save 3k :)

[tkin]

But if he's going to game <1440x900 then it will be useless so better off saving money and buying something else. If he's going above 1440x900 then definitely 1GB.
That's why I said "Hi-Resolution" in my post, and also mentioned AA, try running Crysis/Warhead @ 1440x900, with all settings @ Max/Enthusiast and 8x AA.;);)

[desiibond]

^^ Why do you want to kill graphics card? ;)

[Psychosocial]

LOL

[rahuljin]

so i think i will go with 1gb card because i am soon going to upgrade my pc (in 2-3 months) and will buy atleast dell 22" lcd.
tomorrow i will call SMC International in nehru place if they have card or not.

thanks guys

[DigitalDude]

can any1 tell me the fps of 4670 @ 1440*900 in far cry2 nd warhead

probably between 53 and 43fps for farcry 2 (also depends on sys config :D )

http://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics-performance-review/5

also see http://www.guru3d.com/category/vga_charts/ Crysis is there but not Crysis Warhead

_

[harryneopotter]

@ rahuljin ... hey listen ... tomorrw is sunday ...nehruplace will be closed ... so u have to go on monday .... and how r u planning to go there ...coz may be i also have to go to nehruplace on monday .... together may be we can get some discount ... i have to buy a Home RIG ..20k sumthing ...

[tanmoy_Siliguri]

Haven't played Far Cry 2 but from the reviews I can say it should run well.

Warhead should give you some REAL trouble, just finished playing it twice. Try running everything at Medium or some settings @ gamer and some @ medium with AA off.

And I remind you that Warhead has some real issues with ATI cards, seems they do horrible in this game. The game itself is buggy, in some parts of the Ice levels there was slow down with my config even @ 1024x768, which was caused by memory leaks, if you see any sudden excessive slow downs just save and restart the game to get rid of memory leaks.

You need to keep tweaking the settings to get good FPS, and expect about 20-40% less FPS in ICE levels than in jungle levels.

But I played crysis-warhead & farcry 2 smoothly on my Palit-HD4670...on 1024*768 with all settings HIGH....not very or ultra high........

[tkin]

so i think i will go with 1gb card because i am soon going to upgrade my pc (in 2-3 months) and will buy atleast dell 22" lcd.
tomorrow i will call SMC International in nehru place if they have card or not.

thanks guys
Definitly 1GB then.

But I played crysis-warhead & farcry 2 smoothly on my Palit-HD4670...on 1024*768 with all settings HIGH....not very or ultra high........
I played Warhead @ 1024x768 with my old CRT;

All settings @ Enthusiast

AA @ 16XQ

[tanmoy_Siliguri]

Why not friend ?........u have 9800gtx...it's obviously better than HD4670..........

[rahuljin]

my config is this -----

p4 3ghz
intel 925v2 mobo
xfx 6800gt 256mb
2 gb ddr2 533mhz ram
dvd writer
750gb HDD
Glacial Star GS-500A PSU

is any good for me to go for the card ?? beacuse i am not going to upgrade atleast 2-3 months.

[sagargv]

^^ ur existing card was a great one during its time.. its roughly equivalent to 8600GT. . the best upgrade you could get is a radeon 4850 or 4670 . ur proccy is not fast enough to use the new g-card. .better to upgrade everything after 3 months.

[Psychosocial]

^^I dont think his mobo has a PCIe x16 slot or does it have ?

[comp@ddict]

my config is this -----

p4 3ghz
intel 925v2 mobo
xfx 6800gt 256mb
2 gb ddr2 533mhz ram
dvd writer
750gb HDD
Glacial Star GS-500A PSU

is any good for me to go for the card ?? beacuse i am not going to upgrade atleast 2-3 months.


Best is to upgrade after 3-4 months fullto...save up till then.

[rahuljin]

^^I dont think his mobo has a PCIe x16 slot or does it have ?

yaa....i have a pcie x16 slot.

i have this mobo ----
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d925xecv2/sb/CS-015904.htm

[Psychosocial]

^^Ok kool. But stick with comp@ddict's solution as a new card will be serious bottleneck.

[sagar_coolx]

how much do you get hd 4670 for?

[comp@ddict]

5.5k
ANd HD4650 with DDR2 for 5k or even 4.8k AFAIK

But the HD4670 performs almost like zero better than HD4650

[Psychosocial]

The best will be Palit HD4670 SUPER for Rs. 5750/-

[iyuvabharat]

it seems 8800gt is only 6k-8k

[imgame2]

it seems 8800gt is only 6k-8k

where are u getting that price for ?

[iyuvabharat]

www.india.com

[topgear]

@ my place one vendor told me ( actually he showed me the box ) the price of xfx 8800gt zalman edition Rs. 9000 two months ago.

[Psychosocial]

If its <8k than its a must buy. Leave alone all HD46xx's and 9600GT's, 8800GT is the way to go !!

[rajkumar_pb]

<= 8k, then 88gt...
Otherwise 4850 for just 1.7k high....:D

[Ei8t]

ya man go for palit 4850 i got it for 9k... forget 8800.. its awesome only 55-60 degrees while games... palit's cooling is good... if u can afford u can go for the sonic edition.. it has some extra cooling features... :)

[comp@ddict]

Arrey his budget was 5-6k in gfx card, now we are at 9k?

[stitched]

i bought zotac geforce 9600 gt 512mb gddr3 for Rs6500
i have a p4, 3.4ghz processor,intel 945gc mother board, 2gb ddr2 ram..with 400w (220 W max) smps i havent installed the graphics card yet...
should i but a new smps ...the shop keeper said if u have extra money buy a new smps otherwise the smps i have should be fine and also this is first time i have bought a graphics card, any tips for a newbie
thanks for reading

[KaranTh85]

i bought zotac geforce 9600 gt 512mb gddr3 for Rs6500
i have a p4, 3.4ghz processor,intel 945gc mother board, 2gb ddr2 ram..with 400w (220 W max) smps i havent installed the graphics card yet...
should i but a new smps ...the shop keeper said if u have extra money buy a new smps otherwise the smps i have should be fine and also this is first time i have bought a graphics card, any tips for a newbie
thanks for reading

u need 2 buy a new PSU for the Gcard...:cool:

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ Whats ur SMPS brand.... BTW 400W SMPS is not enough to run a 9600GT card... Yes, even for my 7600GS i use a 450W SMPS... So i advice you to get a CoolerMaster 500W SMPS(around 2.3k), or a PowerSafe Silver 500W SMPS(around 1.8k).... If u r in real shoe string budget get a Zebronics 500W SATA II SMPS which costs less than the above mentioned....

[stitched]

^^ Whats ur SMPS brand.... BTW 400W SMPS is not enough to run a 9600GT card... Yes, even for my 7600GS i use a 450W SMPS... So i advice you to get a CoolerMaster 500W SMPS(around 2.3k), or a PowerSafe Silver 500W SMPS(around 1.8k).... If u r in real shoe string budget get a Zebronics 500W SATA II SMPS which costs less than the above mentioned....

i have a zebronix smps right now...ok i will try and get some money for a new smps thanks for the fast replys @ rajkumar,karanTH85

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ Zebronics 400W....!! Not sufficient... Thats good idea to get a new PSU.... I suggest u to get the PowerSafe Silver 500W PSU..... if u afford 1.8k to buy a PSU, Otherwise a Zebronics 500W SATA II is ur choice....

[comp@ddict]

i bought zotac geforce 9600 gt 512mb gddr3 for Rs6500
i have a p4, 3.4ghz processor,intel 945gc mother board, 2gb ddr2 ram..with 400w (220 W max) smps i havent installed the graphics card yet...
should i but a new smps ...the shop keeper said if u have extra money buy a new smps otherwise the smps i have should be fine and also this is first time i have bought a graphics card, any tips for a newbie
thanks for reading

Get Cooler Master 460W @ 2.2k

9600GT runs without any hiccups on that.

[girish_b]

Finally I'm set on a Palit HD 4850 Sonic.

[Psychosocial]

^^Dont back off...

[frederick_benny_digit]

gud choice

[desiibond]

^^ Zebronics 400W....!! Not sufficient... Thats good idea to get a new PSU.... I suggest u to get the PowerSafe Silver 500W PSU..... if u afford 1.8k to buy a PSU, Otherwise a Zebronics 500W SATA II is ur choice....

No dude. Kobian PSU's are hell lot better thatn Zebronics PSU's. better get CM or antec or corsair.

[rajkumar_pb]

^^
Dude, i am using Zebronics 500W PSU for the past few months and never come across with any problems.... That doesnt means Zebronics is at top... This means Zebby is OK for me....I have a C2D E4600,2GB RAM,ASUS Mobo,and a 76000GS card which runs smoother with that PSU....
I also have a spare intex 450W PSU which also handle my rig smooth like butter..
Now what do you gonna say....
I suggest him the Zebby PSU if he is in real shoe string budget and i also prefer some other brands accord to their prices....

[desiibond]

^^ I have Zebby Geforce cabinet. And it's 400W PSU couldn't drive my 2600XT. And died twice. What would you say about this??

What I am saying is, in terms of stability Mercury makes better PSU's. They have been there for much longer than Zebby.

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ Dude, u need atleast a 450W PSU to handle ur rig, coz even my 7600GS demand more power as i also use the 400W PSU before.
I dont want to start any dispute here... According to me Zebby is OK and dont know abt Mercury PSU as i wasn't use it .

[Psychosocial]

I OC'd my 8800GT on VIP 400W PSU before I got CM 500W :P

[stitched]

ok i bought a mercury smps 500w
i installed the graphics card but i dont get the display its blank...how do i check if my mother board (intel 945gc ddr2 is compatiable with zotac 9600gt.ddr3)...after a few trys i tot i might have connected the dc power plug wrong and i sort of inverted the connection,i might have burnt the graphics card, i could smell it for 3-4 seconds...i guess i might have just wasted 7k ...anyways how do i find out if i have spoiled the graphics card..

[rockfella]

^ Why did u buy this PSU? Get VX450W ! Corsair.

[comp@ddict]

ok i bought a mercury smps 500w
i installed the graphics card but i dont get the display its blank...how do i check if my mother board (intel 945gc ddr2 is compatiable with zotac 9600gt.ddr3)...after a few trys i tot i might have connected the dc power plug wrong and i sort of inverted the connection,i might have burnt the graphics card, i could smell it for 3-4 seconds...i guess i might have just wasted 7k ...anyways how do i find out if i have spoiled the graphics card..


dude u hav to connect the gfx card to monitor......>!!!!!!!:confused::confused::confused:

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

it seems 8800gt is only 6k-8k

Dude if 880GT is for 6000/- :shock: (think so it is better than hd4850)then any idea how much will 8800ultra or 9800Gx2 cost

[nvidia]

(think so it is better than hd4850)
No its not.
The 9800GX2 is way too expensive. Costs 400$+ afaik.
Correct me if im wrong about 9800gx2 :)

[Psychosocial]

^^yA TRUE.

[tkin]

No its not.
The 9800GX2 is way too expensive. Costs 400$+ afaik.
Correct me if im wrong about 9800gx2 :)
Yeah, but if he's right 8800GT will be lot more VFM than HD4850.

[Psychosocial]

if 8800GT is really retailing for 6k, get two I say. And get a Galaxy 680i SLi board. You will get some good performance.

[nvidia]

^^I dont think the 8800GT SLi can beat the 4850.. Because 8800GT Sli beats the 8800GTX Ultra by small margin in a few tests and 4850 is better than the 8800GTX.. So i guess the 4850 is better.. In any case, 8800GT for 6k is really good..

[sagargv]

8800GT SLI will most likely beat 4850 in SLI supported games. .But buying a SLI board and a super costly psu for just that doesnt make much sense for me.. and p45 chipset is simply better than 750i / 680i in everything other than SLI support.

so +1 for 4850.

[ayush002]

Yeah, but if he's right 8800GT will be lot more VFM than HD4850.

so, for around 6k which is better.. 8800gt or 4670super?

[Psychosocial]

6k ? Definitely 8800GT.

[desiibond]

how the hell is 8800GT available for 6k????

That's shocker.

Any location in Bangalore. Will run immediately and grab one as am sure it will outperform my 2600XT

[rameshg]

hey guys,
please tell me price of palit hd4870 1gb sonic dual ????

[ultimategpu]

hey guys,
please tell me price of palit hd4870 1gb sonic dual ????

PALIT HD 4870 512MB sonic ---> 17500/-

PALIT HD 4870 1gb sonic ---->19300/-

& 1 GB sonic is not much different dude ,,, but comparing to 512mb & 1GB.... 512mb is more than enough and 1 gb will not do any miracle than 512mb kkkkk

8800gt for 6k :mad:

cant even belive it ,,, i need two can any one buy for 6kkkk

????:confused::confused::confused:

[T159]

how much is 4850 compared to 8800gt wrt price to performance ?

any link to prove that 8800gt is really for 6k ?

[topgear]

earlier i have tried the desibond link but that one's not for laptop....if u go n check on products supported then u won't get 8400'M' GS and when i try installing that it gives me the same error

To install Nvidia & Ati Latest drivers for Laptop Try These Links :

http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool.php
http://www.driverheaven.net/nvmodtool.php

[amrawtanshx]

8800GT is not for 6k anywhere.

[Psychosocial]

^^True.... its around 9-10k :|.

[KaranTh85]

^^True.... its around 9-10k :|.
Ya..but now...its obsolete as HD4850 & 4870 is there...even 4830 is better than 8800GT :D

[Psychosocial]

^^I can play any game wit that 'obsolete' card on max settings (except Crytek sh1t). Yus, even Fallout 3 on Ultra and FC2 on Very High with some Ultra High and getting very good FPS.

Please keep your fanboyism to yourself.

[rajkumar_pb]

even 4830 is better than 8800GT :D
Is it so?
Eventhough the card is obsolete it still performs well in most of the games and it will never let down in games.....

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

Dude I have an I ball case ( Pride black silver special ) recently I had a look on its box it written with SMPS so how to Know whether I have a SMPS and how much it preforms. Can it survive with HD4850.???????

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ If ur PC runs , then u came to know that ur system has SMPS...:D
Yes w/o SMPS u cant able to switch on ur PC....
BTW the default PSU of iBall wasnt able to run HD4850...
You have to buy a new PSU like CoolerMaster EP500W or Corsair VX450W to make it run....

[KaranTh85]

^^I can play any game wit that 'obsolete' card on max settings (except Crytek sh1t).

I bet u can't play Dave :rolleyes:..on 8800GT...:D

[Psychosocial]

Get CM EP500W and a Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3

BTW, Vaibahv, if you typed that from your PC, then it definitely has a SMPS :D.

I bet u can't play Dave :rolleyes:..on 8800GT...:D

May I know why ? You can play it. If you are worried about DOS then you can use an emulator. Thats all, you can play any game on this card. Atleast till now. I plan to upgrade soon though. By next March/April 2009 for my summer vacation :D.

[KaranTh85]

May I know why ? You can play it. If you are worried about DOS then you can use an emulator. Thats all, you can play any game on this card.

hehe...u r a KID 2 understand my words...(what i actually mean...:D)

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ :D
Ofcourse he is.....

[Vaibhav Bishnoi]

Hey any one got a working phone number of any dealer in Nehru Place cauz many numbers on internet through Just dail and stuff do not work. Dealers there throwin off many cheap deals there

[tanvir]

Hi
i was curious about HDMI so today i went and bought an HDMI cable and a portable audio cable
the HDMI cable works fine i get the display but no sound with / without the portable audio cable attached
the audio cable is a 3.5' male to 2xRCA male...should work?
help!!!

[comp@ddict]

Pentium II 100MHz | ASUS Rampage Extreme Edition | 8MB DDR3 1333MHz | 2xHD4870 in CrossFire


LOL

[tkin]

^^I dont think the 8800GT SLi can beat the 4850.. Because 8800GT Sli beats the 8800GTX Ultra by small margin in a few tests and 4850 is better than the 8800GTX.. So i guess the 4850 is better.. In any case, 8800GT for 6k is really good..
8800GT SLI provides maddening performance, something you can't even emagine. 8800GT SLI CAN beat HD4850 and come near HD4870, if SLI works properly that is.

[rajkumar_pb]

LOL

Why? Does the speed looks extreme high... Yeah, i just OC it from 10MHz....:D

[Psychosocial]

Hey, mine is better ^^ :|

[comp@ddict]

Lukin at procc, then at the rest of the rig.phew

[stitched]

hmm i got it working thanks for the reply..i need not have to connect that dc output port to anything it was a dummy..anyways.it took me 2 days and rs100...thankfully my card is working fine all thou i am sure sumthing is burnt on the inside..

[MenTaLLyMenTaL]

Most graphic cards have a TV out feature. On the specs, they just write TV-out: Yes OR on palit and xpertvision site, they say "Integrated SD and HD TV Output".

How exactly is that port? I want to be able to connect my computer's video output to my TV (analog 29" sony wega or 20" onida) which has composite video in and (only for sony) component video in (YCbCr).

I want to connect it to the TV only to watch movies - use my it as a dvd player kinda thing.

[rajkumar_pb]

Lukin at procc, then at the rest of the rig.phew
:p
Also look at the RAM dude.....:D

[comp@ddict]

Hehe^^

[Plasma_Snake]

WTF!!!
Pentium II 100MHz | ASUS Rampage Extreme Edition | 8MB DDR3 1333MHz | 2xHD4870 in CrossFire

Shifu! Its awesomeness exceeds mine, lemme kung-pow his hairy @r$e. :D

[earlyman21]

is 4850x2 better than 4870 ? i mean value 4 money ?

[Psychosocial]

^^Yup, it performs better than 4870 and its VFM too...

[Mike84]

Any idea about the price of 4850X2 in india? Is it out yet here?

[tkin]

^^Yup, it performs better than 4870 and its VFM too...
Except the numerous Crossfire issues, that is.

[channabasanna]

I have one doubt.

I have a XFX 7600GS Card which supports DirectX 9.0C, and i am using Windows XP OS. Suppose if i buy a DirectX 10 Card, Say 9600 series Card, will that run in Windowx XP OS. Will it run as DirectX 9 or DirectX 10.

[desiibond]

DirectX10 cards are backward compatible with DX9.

if you put a DX10 card for XP, it will run in dx9 more.

am using HD2600XT directX10 card on my rig with vista, XP and windows 7.

[KaranTh85]

am using HD2600XT directX10 card on my rig with vista, XP and windows 7.

Is windows 7 realeased...:confused:

[desiibond]

prebeta :)

[Psychosocial]

^^Is it stable ? I mean, I saw some torrents but I dont think its stable enough.

[rajkumar_pb]

WTF!!!
Pentium II 100MHz | ASUS Rampage Extreme Edition | 8MB DDR3 1333MHz | 2xHD4870 in CrossFire

Shifu! Its awesomeness exceeds mine, lemme kung-pow his hairy @r$e. :D

:p
:D

[izzikio_rage]

hey guys...looking for a graphics card for a budget PC ....suggest any for about 4000 RS....I've been recommended the Nvidia 9600 and the ATI HD4670....suggest ...

[Psychosocial]

hey guys...looking for a graphics card for a budget PC ....suggest any for about 4000 RS....I've been recommended the Nvidia 9600 and the ATI HD4670....suggest ...

lol not for 4k. If u want a card in 4k, look at MSI N8600GT 256MB GDDR3

[izzikio_rage]

MSI N8600GT 256MB GDDR3.... how is the performance? it'll let me play the new games at low settings hopefully?

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ Sure u can.. and it will...
But for just 1.7k more u get Palit HD4670 which is a stable performer for the price u give...
I dont want u waste 4k in investing such outdated card...Just get HD4670 and play all the games w/o any hiccups at low-mid or even at high(Not in newer games) settings...

[izzikio_rage]

yeah that was the plan ....but my comp dealer says that he has never heard of the card....which is basically code for "its a premium product ...I'm gonna charge a lot for it" :) any other suggestions in the same range....I also checked out the sparkle 9500 and ATI HD4500 and of course there is that 9600GT that I've been suggested......suggest?

[rajkumar_pb]

@izzikio_rage
BTW Where u from..

HD4670 is available in www.itwares.com (http://www.itwares.com) and the buddy rahul from it wares is user in our forum...I advise u to buy things from there... If u r in Mumbai, no deal in getting this..Juz pick it up directly...Otherwise u have to order online and recieve thru courier pickup...

If u r not interested in online shopping, then try to get Palit or XpertVision 9600GT.. the former one for 6.6k and latter is around 6k....

HD4670>9600GT

Dont ever think to buy 9500GT..Its complete B$ and worthless....

[izzikio_rage]

nahi yaar....am from jaipur......i'll check out that site , but no one at home is gonna let me order online.....:) ....6K is a little too high...any suggestions near 4000?

[KaranTh85]

the buddy rahul from it wares is user in our forum

Really..where is his profile..i didnt know dat...:))

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ Why dont u make a search by the username of rahul?
Thats will help u..:)

[Mike84]

no reply?

When is this HD4850X2 going to be released in India? And any idea about the price???

[ultimategpu]

no reply?

When is this HD4850X2 going to be released in India? And any idea about the price???


It will be around 20k to 25k ,,, but it takes two months to release in india

I think PALIT 's HD 4850 X2 will be less compared to other brands

[ashray99923]

hello guys i am confused with the selection of graphic card....
my pc config is intel c2d e7200
mobo galaxy mcp73
1 gb kingston ram 667mhz...

plzz suggest me graphic card ...for latest games i am going to play on 19" monitor.
also i am casual gamer....maybe i am going to play games on windows xp means using direct x 9 (not using vista for a while)..also i am tight on budget Rs.5000-6000.
thank you.....reply soon..i am from mumbai.

[MenTaLLyMenTaL]

^ 9600GT for around 6.5k
or HD4670 - around 5.8k - a little lower performance than 9600GT.
or Palit 9600GSO - around 6k - more or less equal to hd4670

maybe u can find XpertVision 9600GT for just 6k

[NIGHTMARE]

go for 4670 value for money

[Mike84]

^^ Thanks UGPU...
My frind's buying PC in jan.. i would definitely recommend this for him... And might get that for myself too... will settle for a lesser gpu rite now.. may be cheapest 4670 avaliable :)

[GAJU]

tell me how i get best display in nvidiageforce7100gs graphics card?

[rajkumar_pb]

@GAJU

Its a very ooooooooolder gfx card...BTW if u want to buy this, forgot it...Just get atleast 8600GT..
If u already have it..sell it off and get a new 8600GT....:D

[NIGHTMARE]

tell me how i get best display in nvidiageforce7100gs graphics card?

do want any tweaks in GPU

[MenTaLLyMenTaL]

Could someone answer my post #6964? http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=984587&postcount=6964

[NIGHTMARE]

which graphics card u r having or going to purchase

[MenTaLLyMenTaL]

Not sure, but any cheap card which has TV out feature. say for example pov 8400gs.

[NIGHTMARE]

all card having TV-out u can connect throw S-video cable which comes with card or DVI-VGA(with dongle)- s-video port(use converter) or VGA to audio(L+R) video port

[comp@ddict]

^^ Thanks UGPU...
My frind's buying PC in jan.. i would definitely recommend this for him... And might get that for myself too... will settle for a lesser gpu rite now.. may be cheapest 4670 avaliable :)


Jan, u *^*%&% WTF!!!!

Come bak in Jan, by then who knows a host of new mid range cards might be out. Seriously u guys need to get ur timings right!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: