All Graphics Cards related queries here.

[topgear]

crysis warhead is not upcoming..... its released i m playing it ..... and people in our forum have finished it



thats a really nice link ...thanks for sharing it with us

Thanks pal.

[Revolution]

Search around different shops in Chandni, many shop will give you a lower price than Tirupati,

Here's some shops,

Vedant Infosys
26,GC Avenue
Kol - 700 013

Arihant Mercantiles
1,Chandni Chowk Street
Opp State Transport Building
Kol - 700 072

M.D Computers
16/1 GC Avenue
Kol - 700 013

Don't forget to bergain;)

@tkin
Thanks.....
I will try.

[asigh]

Hi asingh. U seem to have the same mobo as mine i.e. d101 ggc with 2gb ddr1 ram and 3.07 ghz single core processor. Could u please advice me which graphic card i should get in order to play games like COD4, Crysis, Command & conquer 3 kanes wrath etc. etc. Thanks in advance.


As suggested above go for the 8600GT DDR3. Good card to compliment your current system. Follow the recommendations for the PSU.

Though on a 2nd thought..would not a 8800GT be better..or would his processor bottle-neck it..???

[comp@ddict]

HD 4870x2 will not be bottlenecked by QX9770, that's an awsome processor dude, overclock it to unleash the beast(Or wait for Nehalem):)

What the HD4870x2 need is a good Mobo and DDR3 RAM.

Or you can get the Skulltrail system;)

Any news on next set of GPUs from ATI/nVidia? Things are moving slowly again:D


Huge difference, like heaven and hell man;)


Dude no current gen. procc can handle 4870X2, havn't you noticed, when an E7200 is also Overclocked to 5Ghz(and current games, only utilize 2 core properly), then there's like a 50% increase in the frames compared to even 3.5Ghz speed. So, no procc is strong enough.

And Nehalem is just 10% faster in the games than the QX9770 I've made a new thread check soon..

[rajkumar_pb]

As suggested above go for the 8600GT DDR3. Good card to compliment your current system. Follow the recommendations for the PSU.

Though on a 2nd thought..would not a 8800GT be better..or would his processor bottle-neck it..???
Sure it would be a bottleneck for that card.. A Dual Core is the min req for that card..

[tkin]

Dude no current gen. procc can handle 4870X2, havn't you noticed, when an E7200 is also Overclocked to 5Ghz(and current games, only utilize 2 core properly), then there's like a 50% increase in the frames compared to even 3.5Ghz speed. So, no procc is strong enough.

And Nehalem is just 10% faster in the games than the QX9770 I've made a new thread check soon..
E7200 to 5GHz, dude you've completely lost it:shock::shock:
E7200 Max at 3.8 GHz:)

E7200 sucks when compared to the QX9xxx ones:mad:
12MB L2 cache sure gives, also 1600MHz FSB(Forgot the quad core):D

Also in one famous review(may be Anandtech) the processors were compared and was found that after a certain Clock speed all processors perform nearly identical in games, so as long you have a proccy(Dual Core least) of 2.66GHz speed or higher no card can bottleneck it:cool:

In nVidia's case however, the PhysX/CUDA tries to offload as much calculation as it can to the GPU so whan developed properly(2009-10) the Proccy bottleneck issue should disappear completely, and we can see a lot of powerful GPUs out there:rolleyes:

ATI has some CGPU stuff but the progress isn't so good on it:confused:

Then again Intel has the Larabee(and HAVOC), so we're heading into an age of combine CPU and GPU architecture, probably by 2012 graphics card and processors should cease to exist individually:D:D

[static_x]

I'm planning to buy a graphics card. Could you please suggest me which one to buy? My budget is 4-6K. Right now i'm thinking of nvidia 8600 GT 512 mb. Am using PIV 3.06 Ghz 2gb RAM, 1 TB HDD.
Thanks.

[rajkumar_pb]

I'm planning to buy a graphics card. Could you please suggest me which one to buy? My budget is 4-6K. Right now i'm thinking of nvidia 8600 GT 512 mb. Am using PIV 3.06 Ghz 2gb RAM, 1 TB HDD.
Thanks.

You the big storage guy...rite...
IMHO : Go for HD4670 if it is released..:D
Otherwise : ASUS EN8600GT 256MB DDR3(around 3.7k)
ASUS NX8600GT 256MB DDR3 (around 4k)
EVGA 8600GTS 512MB DDR3 (around 5k)....
My Pick : XpertVision 9600GT - 5.5k....This one is a good deal for the price tag and perform better than the above things..

[Psychosocial]

I'm planning to buy a graphics card. Could you please suggest me which one to buy? My budget is 4-6K. Right now i'm thinking of nvidia 8600 GT 512 mb. Am using PIV 3.06 Ghz 2gb RAM, 1 TB HDD.
Thanks.

+1 with rajkumar_pb

[tkin]

+1 with rajkumar_pb
A Very Very Happy Diwali to you and all my other bros, KPowerMania.
Happy Gaming:D:D

[Psychosocial]

Ya.......same to you guyz......

And congrats for your rig!! Party!!

[sahilshah1987]

Hi guys I am going with Palit 512 Mb GDDR3 9600GT @ 6140/- Do u all thk its gd deal?And hw is Palit as company?

[Psychosocial]

Hi guys I am going with Palit 512 Mb GDDR3 9600GT @ 6140/- Do u all thk its gd deal?And hw is Palit as company?

First of all.....if you can wait, then do so coz the ATi HD4670 will be here soon which will be priced <6000\- and it will just kill the competition in the price range. WIth that said, this deal is also not good. Xpert Vision 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 is available for 6000/-. If you cant wait then buy Xpert Vision one!

Palit is one of the most trusted company right now in this forum.

[rahuljin]

4830 is also going to release in oct. and may be in nov in india.
price will be around 6-7k( i guess)

[static_x]

You the big storage guy...rite...
IMHO : Go for HD4670 if it is released..:D
Otherwise : ASUS EN8600GT 256MB DDR3(around 3.7k)
ASUS NX8600GT 256MB DDR3 (around 4k)
EVGA 8600GTS 512MB DDR3 (around 5k)....
My Pick : XpertVision 9600GT - 5.5k....This one is a good deal for the price tag and perform better than the above things..

Thanks for your reply...i'll look for HD4670 and the Xpertvision 9600GT...:D

[ironfreak]

HI everyone Im posting here bcos this is a dedicated gfx card thread. After discussion with imgame2 i thought i should post my further queries here.

we were talking about quadro fx 1500 and gtx 260. so what i right now think is gtx 260 will perform same as fx 1500 on apps like Adobe Premiere, Shake, Combustion, FCP, Maya and 3ds max. or even if theres some difference it won't be much noticeable. fx 1500 employs same chip that was used in old gforce 79-- series. difference lies in firmware. still i feel that gtx 260 with 216 core will perform almost same in above mentioned apps or with little unnoticeable difference. more over 260 being 10th generation gforce will also add advantage in gaming (im a light, seldom gamer;) too).

here im indirectly comparing the two cards. that may not be a sensible comparison. but i had to do it. bcos budget is limited to 20k.

so right now im in very much favour of gtx 260 than fx 1500. and im very much open to suggestions:).

and how much hd 4870 1gb costs? so it beats gtx?? great...

thanks in advance guys...:D

[imgame2]

HI everyone Im posting here bcos this is a dedicated gfx card thread. After discussion with imgame2 i thought i should post my further queries here.

we were talking about quadro fx 1500 and gtx 260. so what i right now think is gtx 260 will perform same as fx 1500 on apps like Adobe Premiere, Shake, Combustion, FCP, Maya and 3ds max. or even if theres some difference it won't be much noticeable. fx 1500 employs same chip that was used in old gforce 79-- series. difference lies in firmware. still i feel that gtx 260 with 216 core will perform almost same in above mentioned apps or with little unnoticeable difference. more over 260 being 10th generation gforce will also add advantage in gaming (im a light, seldom gamer;) too).

here im indirectly comparing the two cards. that may not be a sensible comparison. but i had to do it. bcos budget is limited to 20k.

so right now im in very much favour of gtx 260 than fx 1500. and im very much open to suggestions:).

and how much hd 4870 1gb costs? so it beats gtx?? great...

thanks in advance guys...:D


my guess is gtx260 will beat fx1500 ..cos gtx is entirely new architecture ...and its not old as G80 chips ...i saw it somewhere that modded 8800gt performs better than fx1700 ..so thats the basis of my conclusion ...

and HD4870 1Gb beats ....gtx260 core 216 ..

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3415&p=2

both HD4870 1Gb and gtx260 core 216 are not yet available in india but i guess they will come in india by the end of this month (that is by the end of October )

before that ...HD4670 for budget card will arrive ...

the only think in my opnion HD4870 lacks is the support for CUDA ..u have decide if its useful for u ...

[ironfreak]

ok for how much we should expect hd 4870 1gb and gtx 260 core 216? i think they too will be out of budget :(

so out of hd 4870 512mb and gtx 260... hd 4870 wins !!

im more researching on what exactly is CUDA.. seems like we can code algorithms to work the GPU as we want... is it like that? what do u think it will be useful for appls i've mentioned?

[imgame2]

ok for how much we should expect hd 4870 1gb and gtx 260 core 216? i think they too will be out of budget :(

so out of hd 4870 512mb and gtx 260... hd 4870 wins !!

im more researching on what exactly is CUDA.. seems like we can code algorithms to work the GPU as we want... is it like that? what do u think it will be useful for appls i've mentioned?


well in US HD4870 1GB costs $ 20 more and HD4870 512 mb(and prices are coming down) ...and gtxcore216 costs slightly more than HD4870 1Gb ..but indian market works differently ...its more of a supply demand here ...not many spend 18k on gfx card ..but yes they can spend upto 10 k so HD4850 prices have gone down pretty steeply...

even though it is so i think ..HD4870 1GB can only be 2k~2.5k costlier than HD4870 512 gb ..and .where HD series prices are going down every fortnight ..we don't see any such inclination from nVidia sadly ... in india gtx 260 is still 2~3k costlier than HD4870 ...

my guess HD4870 1Gb should be available for 20 k approx when it arrives ...seeing the trends can't say much about gtx 260 core 216

CUDA is more for HPC (high performance computing )and yes its exactly what u have understood ..and i fail to see how it can help u in the softwares u are using ..will have to do some reaserch before ..getting back to u on this one ...

but also look at this pdf ..might be little helpful ...to understand what CUDA can do

http://www.technion.ac.il/~marks/docs/GPGPU-overview.pdf

also CUDA could be helpful in photoshop CS4 and Premiere CS4 ...

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9602&Itemid=34

but still i think CUDA being a faster means if some effect takes say 15 seconds on HD4870 ..it might take 10 seconds at the best on gtx260...being a semi pro ..i don't think that will matter too much for u ..so HD4870 1Gb is should real VFM ..for u too ...

PS- pardon me for provding so many links ...but last two days i m not in my best of health ..and i think it might overshadow my judgements ..hence i m providing u links ..so that it can help u in some way or other ..

[ironfreak]

I expect price drop in existing HD 4870 512mb and Gtx 260. So I think I should wait till November and see the new cards then decide. :)

And those links are very helpful buddy...

[anmol singh mzn 2008]

which is the best and worst among these graphic solutions:
8400gs/8600gt/9200gs

[ayush002]

my guess is gtx260 will beat fx1500 ..cos gtx is entirely new architecture ...and its not old as G80 chips ...i saw it somewhere that modded 8800gt performs better than fx1700 ..so thats the basis of my conclusion ...

and HD4870 1Gb beats ....gtx260 core 216 ..

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3415&p=2

both HD4870 1Gb and gtx260 core 216 are not yet available in india but i guess they will come in india by the end of this month (that is by the end of October )

before that ...HD4670 for budget card will arrive ...

the only think in my opnion HD4870 lacks is the support for CUDA ..u have decide if its useful for u ...

what if we compare HD4850 with similarly priced quadro cards? I m interested in gaming as well as 3d designing/rendering with maya but my budget is limited to 12k. Will HD4850 be the ideal choice for me?

[Psychosocial]

which is the best and worst among these graphic solutions:
8400gs/8600gt/9200gs

8600GT>8400GS

Never heard about anything like 9200GS and if something like that does exist than it will be the worst out of the 3.

8600GT>8400GS>9200GS

[imgame2]

what if we compare HD4850 with similarly priced quadro cards? I m interested in gaming as well as 3d designing/rendering with maya but my budget is limited to 12k. Will HD4850 be the ideal choice for me?

offcourse HD4850 beats any card in that vicinity ..hands down ...and quadro cards are well known that ..they don't perform great in games ....i guess u will do great with HD4850 ..cos

To make this business concept work, the manufacturers protect themselves fairly successfully so that nobody can take a cheap gaming card like the GeForce or Radeon and turn it into a Quadro FX or FireGL. Granted, hackers repeatedly try to destroy this distinction by employing soft-mods on drivers and in the graphics cards’ BIOS files—and this is sometimes possible because in the end, the products are 99% the same.

source (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/FireGL-Quadro-Workstation,1995.html)

quadro fx low end and medium end cards are based on G80 chip at max ...
as i said before ...if u are not pro ....HD4850 will suffice ur job pretty well plus u get awesome gaming card at ur disposal ...any quadro fx card in that range can't even dare beat 9600gt ...leave alone 8800gt/9800gt and HD4850 is VFM in that category ..next value for money card is HD4870 @17k ...any other than that is not recommended for a gamer ..or lets say semi-pro ..

I expect price drop in existing HD 4870 512mb and Gtx 260. So I think I should wait till November and see the new cards then decide. :)

And those links are very helpful buddy...

if u are waiting till November prices will definitely drop and u can get various new flavors in existing cards as well ...

keep looking for new things coming up ...

[static_x]

Hey Guys what about PALIT GF-8600GT Super+1GB it is available for 4.5K should i go with it?
ATi HD4670 is better option as suggested..any idea where i can get it from...online....:)

[beta testing]

Don't go for the Palit 8600GT. Even though it's got a gig of RAM, the core isn't powerful enough to keep all that RAM busy. Go for the ATi HD4670.

[ironfreak]

what if we compare HD4850 with similarly priced quadro cards? I m interested in gaming as well as 3d designing/rendering with maya but my budget is limited to 12k. Will HD4850 be the ideal choice for me?

we are in same position. go blindly for the 4850. if u ever wanted quadro get the 30-40k walla.... thats what i think.

[ayush002]

offcourse HD4850 beats any card in that vicinity ..hands down ...and quadro cards are well known that ..they don't perform great in games ....i guess u will do great with HD4850 ..cos


quadro fx low end and medium end cards are based on G80 chip at max ...
as i said before ...if u are not pro ....HD4850 will suffice ur job pretty well plus u get awesome gaming card at ur disposal ...any quadro fx card in that range can't even dare beat 9600gt ...leave alone 8800gt/9800gt and HD4850 is VFM in that category ..next value for money card is HD4870 @17k ...any other than that is not recommended for a gamer ..or lets say semi-pro ..


thanks for d info..:smile: i hv decided to go for 4850..

@ironfreak
being jst a student, can't afford dat 30-40k wala..maybe later:D for now, 4850 will be d way to go

[ironfreak]

thanks for d info..:smile: i hv decided to go for 4850..

@ironfreak
being jst a student, can't afford dat 30-40k wala..maybe later:D for now, 4850 will be d way to go
yaar main bhi student hoon...:D NO to quadro below fx1700. thats why decided to wait till Nov. otherwise I'd go with 4870.

[Psychosocial]

Don't go for the Palit 8600GT. Even though it's got a gig of RAM, the core isn't powerful enough to keep all that RAM busy. Go for the ATi HD4670.

+1

[static_x]

Don't go for the Palit 8600GT. Even though it's got a gig of RAM, the core isn't powerful enough to keep all that RAM busy. Go for the ATi HD4670.

Thanks..i'll look for ATi HD4670...checked lynx but they dont have it..infact no ATi cards..:(

BTW my purpose is not the gaming...I use different designing softwares like 3ds max, CATIA and inventor...and at times the it goes very slow...so the question remains the same...let me know if the answers remains the same? :(

[imgame2]

Thanks..i'll look for ATi HD4670...checked lynx but they dont have it..infact no ATi cards..:(

lynx has lots of ati cards check again ...it doesn't have HD4670 ..cos its not yet available in india ...

BTW my purpose is not the gaming...I use different designing softwares like 3ds max, CATIA and inventor...and at times the it goes very slow...so the question remains the same...let me know if the answers remains the same? :(


u will need a quadro fx or fire gl class card to speed them ...HD4760 ..won't be much useful ...

[Psychosocial]

Thanks..i'll look for ATi HD4670...checked lynx but they dont have it..infact no ATi cards..:(

BTW my purpose is not the gaming...I use different designing softwares like 3ds max, CATIA and inventor...and at times the it goes very slow...so the question remains the same...let me know if the answers remains the same? :(

If not the Quadro than atleast a HD4850/9800GTX+ (I dont recommand the latter as it is costly).

[static_x]

If not the Quadro than atleast a HD4850/9800GTX+ (I dont recommand the latter as it is costly).

RADEON HD4850 512MB GDDR3 (http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2307)is for Rs.11,000 at lynx and Xpert Vision GF 9800GTX+ (http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2634) is for Rs. 11,827
Both dont fit in my budget...as of now i cant buy any of these :(...may be i've to wait...:(...

[Psychosocial]

RADEON HD4850 512MB GDDR3 (http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2307)is for Rs.11,000 at lynx and Xpert Vision GF 9800GTX+ (http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2634) is for Rs. 11,827
Both dont fit in my budget...as of now i cant buy any of these :(...may be i've to wait...:(...

Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3 for 9.5k with the retailers :razz:.

Still if you need to wait than do wait for the HD4670.

[static_x]

Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3 for 9.5k with the retailers :razz:.

Still if you need to wait than do wait for the HD4670.

I think waiting a bit would be better as you guys are telling that HD4670 is a better option..let it come then will decide...

Thanks to all of you for your comments...:)

[beta testing]

Yeah, it's right to wait. You'll get better deals in the future.

[techking_dinesh]

hello
i m using hp m7360in pc
currently having nvidia geforce6200se turboforce card
i want to upgrade to 512mb memory or plus card
budget is rs.5000
I m in hurry and hav to buy card in 2 days
Must be directx 10 card
dmc4,crysis, must run smooth

Asus is preferable for me

I m from nashik it would be great if someone could also suggest some dealer out here.



suggest me a good card that runs smooth on my pc without compatibility issues with motherboard and all

( Soeone told me i hav 533mhz panel so i must select cards that hav ramdac and core clock less than 533mhz is it true ? if yes plz see to it that cards u mention hav the same. )
pc config:
Base processor
Pentium4 524 (P) HT 3.06 GHz

*
533 MHz front side bus
*
Socket 775

Chipset
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 for Intel Processors
Motherboard

*
Manufacturer: ECS
*
Motherboard Name: RC410-M
*
HP/Compaq motherboard name: Asterope-GL8E


Memory
Component Attributes
Memory Installed 1gb (2 x 512 )
Maximum allowed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB) requires the replacement of the installed 512 MB DIMM
Speed supported PC2-4200 MB/sec
Type 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM
DIMM slots Two
Open DIMM slots One
Hard drive

*
80 GB SATA
*
7200 rpm

16X DVD(+/-)R/RW RAM (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Video Graphics
GeForce 6200SE

* 64 MB DDR memory
* I/O Ports: VGA, Composite, S-Video

Sound/Audio
Integrated High Definition audio

* Realtek ALC 883 chipset
* Supports up to 8 audio channels
* Dolby Pro Logic II compatible

Dolby 5.1
Network (LAN)
Integrated 10/100 Base-T networking interface
Memory card reader

* Supports the following cards:
o Compact Flash I
o Compact Flash II
o SmartMedia
o Memory Stick
o Memory Stick Pro
o MultiMediaCard
o Secure Digital (SD)
o Micro Drive
o XD Picture Card (xd = extreme digital)

External I/O ports
I/O ports on the front panel
Port type Quantity
9-in-1 (4 slot) One
1394 One
USB Two
Headphone One
Microphone One
I/O ports on the back panel
Port type Quantity
PS2 (keyboard, mouse) Two (one each)
VGA One
Parallel One
USB Four
1394 One
LAN One
S-video out One
Audio (side speaker out, rear speaker out, center speaker out, line-in, line-out, microphone) One each
Expansion slots (available)
Slot type Quantity
PCI Three (Two available)
PCI Express x16 One (None available)
DIMM Slots Two (One available)
Drive bays (available)
Bay type Quantity
5.25" external Two (One available)
3.5" internal One (None available)
Personal Media Drive One (One available)
Keyboard and mouse

*
HP wireless keyboard
*
HP premium wireless mouse

I know lot of extra config i gav sorry for that.

thanks

[rajkumar_pb]

hello
i m using hp m7360in pc
currently having nvidia geforce6200se turboforce card
i want to upgrade to 512mb memory or plus card
budget is rs.5000
I m in hurry and hav to buy card in 2 days
Must be directx 10 card
dmc4,crysis, must run smooth

Asus is preferable for me

I m from nashik it would be great if someone could also suggest some dealer out here.
suggest me a good card that runs smooth on my pc without compatibility issues with motherboard and all

( Soeone told me i hav 533mhz panel so i must select cards that hav ramdac and core clock less than 533mhz is it true ? if yes plz see to it that cards u mention hav the same. )
pc config:
Base processor
Pentium4 524 (P) HT 3.06 GHz

*
533 MHz front side bus
*
Socket 775

Chipset
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 for Intel Processors
Motherboard

*
Manufacturer: ECS
*
Motherboard Name: RC410-M
*
HP/Compaq motherboard name: Asterope-GL8E


Memory
Component Attributes
Memory Installed 1gb (2 x 512 )
Maximum allowed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB) requires the replacement of the installed 512 MB DIMM
Speed supported PC2-4200 MB/sec
Type 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM
DIMM slots Two
Open DIMM slots One
Hard drive

*
80 GB SATA
*
7200 rpm

16X DVD(+/-)R/RW RAM (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Video Graphics
GeForce 6200SE

* 64 MB DDR memory
* I/O Ports: VGA, Composite, S-Video

Sound/Audio
Integrated High Definition audio

* Realtek ALC 883 chipset
* Supports up to 8 audio channels
* Dolby Pro Logic II compatible

Dolby 5.1
Network (LAN)
Integrated 10/100 Base-T networking interface
Memory card reader

* Supports the following cards:
o Compact Flash I
o Compact Flash II
o SmartMedia
o Memory Stick
o Memory Stick Pro
o MultiMediaCard
o Secure Digital (SD)
o Micro Drive
o XD Picture Card (xd = extreme digital)

External I/O ports
I/O ports on the front panel
Port type Quantity
9-in-1 (4 slot) One
1394 One
USB Two
Headphone One
Microphone One
I/O ports on the back panel
Port type Quantity
PS2 (keyboard, mouse) Two (one each)
VGA One
Parallel One
USB Four
1394 One
LAN One
S-video out One
Audio (side speaker out, rear speaker out, center speaker out, line-in, line-out, microphone) One each
Expansion slots (available)
Slot type Quantity
PCI Three (Two available)
PCI Express x16 One (None available)
DIMM Slots Two (One available)
Drive bays (available)
Bay type Quantity
5.25" external Two (One available)
3.5" internal One (None available)
Personal Media Drive One (One available)
Keyboard and mouse

*
HP wireless keyboard
*
HP premium wireless mouse

I know lot of extra config i gav sorry for that.

thanks

I hope 6200SE is a AGP card...IF not then ATi HD4670 is ur choice..... It will be release before Deepavali.... If u not get it, then XpertVision 9600GT for 5.5k....:D

[bassam904]

/\
does his mobo support PCI cards...

[rajkumar_pb]

^^ I hope so.

[anmol singh mzn 2008]

should i choose ati radeon hd2400 or geforce 8600m gt as a laptop solution

[rajkumar_pb]

should i choose ati radeon hd2400 or geforce 8600m gt as a laptop solution
Whatever suits ur budget.... Both of em are good.... I prefer 8600M..:D

[techking_dinesh]

well i dont want to risk
i want pci express cards only

would be great if nvidia >> asus>> 512mb plus >> no compatibility issues with my 533mhz front bus panel and asterope motherboard >> less than 5k

[rajkumar_pb]

well i dont want to risk
i want pci express cards only

would be great if nvidia >> asus>> 512mb plus >> no compatibility issues with my 533mhz front bus panel and asterope motherboard >> less than 5k

The one that i prefer was a PCIe card.... So dont worry abt that... ATi HD4670 is way better than NVIDIA's counterpart and its the real bang-for-buck... So dont hesitate to buy that one....

[techking_dinesh]

lot of queries if i shift to ati

will processor support it ??
asterope motherboard ??
price ??
memory ??

the ati card u said has foll. specs
" this card is based on the RV730 core and comes with a core speed of 750MHz and a memory of 512MB GDDR3 clocked at 2000MHz ""

i hav ddr2 memory 533mhz front bus panel speed only

[rajkumar_pb]

lot of queries if i shift to ati

will processor support it ??
asterope motherboard ??
price ??
memory ??

the ati card u said has foll. specs
" this card is based on the RV730 core and comes with a core speed of 750MHz and a memory of 512MB GDDR3 clocked at 2000MHz ""

i hav ddr2 memory 533mhz front bus panel speed only


Ur proccy and Mobo(if it has a PCIe slot) supports it.... It comes with 512MB of memory and price is around 5k..

Dont worry bro....FSB has nothing to do here.. The only pbm is the card is still not released...:D
I want u to wait till its release and go for it as it has the best VFM and bag-for-buck....

If u r in hurry, then go for XpertVision 9600GT for 5.5k.... Dont go for any 9600GS0 cards.... Or else, get a 8800GS for 5k used one here at Bazaar Section...

[techking_dinesh]

wat bout asus 8500 and 8600 which r in range of 3-4 k

i did srtest for crysis
everythnig passes only gfx card fails
i hav the 256mb card it says 256 needed still shows gailed coz 6800 plus is required

it also says note 8500gt not supported

[rajkumar_pb]

wat bout asus 8500 and 8600 which r in range of 3-4 k

i did srtest for crysis
everythnig passes only gfx card fails
i hav the 256mb card it says 256 needed still shows gailed coz 6800 plus is required

it also says note 8500gt not supported
8500 -> Throw it in trash bin...No use with it wen it comes to Resource Hungry Games like Crysis..
8600-> Better performer at the low-end cards.... An ASUS NX8600GT or EN8600GT are powerful cards on these categories... But the ATi HD4670 outperforms these cards by a big margin....
ASUS NX8600GT -> around 4k
ASUS EN8600GT -> around 4k..
For just a 1k more u got a incredible performance in HD4670.... But it upto you..

[techking_dinesh]

i hav ddr2 ram

does that mean the graphic card i choose should be ddr2 type ??

ok i hav to select out of the three now

1. 8600
2. hd4670
3. 9600

i will go in shop comapre features and prices from box and buy the best one

wat will be yourr order for preference ???

i hope these 3 r good for 5k budget for 512+ memory and playing dx10 games , crysis and all

i hope all 3 are pci express cards

[imgame2]

i hav ddr2 ram

does that mean the graphic card i choose should be ddr2 type ??

ok i hav to select out of the three now

1. 8600
2. hd4670
3. 9600

i will go in shop comapre features and prices from box and buy the best one

wat will be yourr order for preference ???

i hope these 3 r good for 5k budget for 512+ memory and playing dx10 games , crysis and all

i hope all 3 are pci express cards

ur system RAM has nothing to do with the RAM of gfx card ..the RAM of gfx card is GDDR ...which in many ways are different from traditional RAM ...this GDDR RAM is present on the card ...for ur purpose u should always look for GDDR3 card ..it will perform better than a GDDR2 based card ...


wait for sometime and go for HD4670 ....and i don't think 512 MB might make a huge differene in those cards ...cos they are budget card and not powerful enough to process 512 MB of Data ..so ..go for 256 Mb variants ....512MB might give a few FPS more in some games ...but considering the price u pay for them its not worth ..as they higher priced than 256 Mb variant ..

all cards u can get today are PCIex ...AGP cards are hard to find these days ..so no worries there

[rajkumar_pb]

i hav ddr2 ram

does that mean the graphic card i choose should be ddr2 type ??
Not like that...Those are different concepts....So no probs with that.... And dont confuse with this...As u can even use a DDR5 mem too....:D

ok i hav to select out of the three now

1. 8600
2. hd4670
3. 9600

i will go in shop comapre features and prices from box and buy the best one

wat will be yourr order for preference ???
HD4670 - 512MB DDR4 Memory(I hope so)
XpertVision 9600GT(Dont know much abt that)
ASUS EN8600GT(256MB DDR3 Mem.. It beats 512MB DDR2 easily.. tat means DDR3>DDR2...:D)

i hope these 3 r good for 5k budget for 512+ memory and playing dx10 games , crysis and all

i hope all 3 are pci express cards
Out of these three only HD4670 has 512MB of mem.. and choosing gfx card is only based on mem type and not mem it has..... Like i said earlier. a 256MB DDR3 will easily beat 512MB DDR2..So no use of that much memory....

Just go check out the street prices, put that here and we will help u.....:D

[bassam904]

HD 4670 and 9600 are out of your budget...
wait for price fall of 9600. it may get upto 5.5k

[rajkumar_pb]

HD 4670 and 9600 are out of your budget...
wait for price fall of 9600. it may get upto 5.5k
I hope he can able to spare addnl 500 bucks... as he mention his budget as Rs.5000 earlier.....

[techking_dinesh]

HD4670 - 512MB DDR4 Memory ??
then according to u ddr4>ddr3>ddr2 correct ??

u said 256ddr3 can beat 512ddr2 easily
but if that Ati card is ddr4 and 512mb there is nothing left to say.

wat is price of hd4670 u all r talking bout

[bassam904]

its 6.5k+
so forget it.......

[techking_dinesh]

1 more thing y should i go for 265 mb card again

my current card is also 256mb as seen in dxdiag
but supports dx 9 only

[rajkumar_pb]

HD4670 - 512MB DDR4 Memory ??
then according to u ddr4>ddr3>ddr2 correct ??

u said 256ddr3 can beat 512ddr2 easily
but if that Ati card is ddr4 and 512mb there is nothing left to say.

wat is price of hd4670 u all r talking bout
As bassam said, its around 5.5k and may be price falls after few weeks, thats upto the sales of the card...
I hope now u get my point tat y i stress u to get HD4670...:D

[techking_dinesh]

neoseeker says 89$ only

[rajkumar_pb]

its 10k+
so forget it.......
Man where r u livin... The HD4850 itself costs only 9.7k and HD4670 its the low end compared to 4850, but priced at 10k...:D
Just joking... HD4670 will be priced around 4.5-5.5k.....
For 10k+, i get the Red Monster HD4850....

neoseeker says 89$ only
Dont compare prices in dollar to INR.... It always costs more when it steps into Indian Market.... OK... So expect around 4-5.5k as my prediction...If it comes less then i buy 2 and used them in CrossFire mode....:D

[techking_dinesh]

guys there is difference between 5.5k and 6.5 k
at wat pice will i get it in nashik ( near mumbai )

if not this then wat should i buy today in 5-5.5k today not even tomorrow

[bassam904]

Man where r u livin... The HD4850 itself costs only 9.7k and HD4670 its the low end compared to 4850, but priced at 10k...:D
Just joking... HD4670 will be priced around 4.5-5.5k.....
For 10k+, i get the Red Monster HD4850....

Sorry man got confused with HD 4870

[techking_dinesh]

4.5-5.5k price is for today or after 1 month ??

guyz if u get confuse
MERA KYA HOGA ??

1 more thing this can be a noob ques

my 6200se asus card is too small and compact
i m reading review of hd 4670 at different places

the photo shown is too big
i doubt whether it will properly filt without dashing my cooler which is situated above it and my modem card which is below it.
i know it will fit in slot coz it is pci express

http://i.neoseeker.com/neo_image/161413/article/hd4670/imagec007_thumb.jpg

[Psychosocial]

Its not released yet.

HD4650 will be 4k and 4670 will be around 5.5-6k

[techking_dinesh]

this is a new problem guyz

saw properly the photo

my monitor plug wont go in that card

it has 2 usb and a big port

i hav a vga monitor

now wat ??

[rajkumar_pb]

guys there is difference between 5.5k and 6.5 k
at wat pice will i get it in nashik ( near mumbai )

if not this then wat should i buy today in 5-5.5k today not even tomorrow

No.. it doesnt exceed 5k as far as i heard....
Sorry man got confused with HD 4870
Thats OK.... No need to say Sorry friend...
4.5-5.5k price is for today or after 1 month ??

guyz if u get confuse
MERA KYA HOGA ??

1 more thing this can be a noob ques

my 6200se asus card is too small and compact
i m reading review of hd 4670 at different places

the photo shown is too big
i doubt whether it will properly filt without dashing my cooler which is situated above it and my modem card which is below it.
i know it will fit in slot coz it is pci express
5k will be at release time....(I hope it will come for 4k coz its main deal is to grab the low-end market...)
And the card was not too big to held on ur board...If u have a PCIe slot, no need to worry, it just fit there perfectly...But make sure u have atleast 450W PSU to entertain the card...

[techking_dinesh]

i said i wanna buy a card today
if it not relased y r u guyz suggesting those ??

[rajkumar_pb]

i said i wanna buy a card today
if it not relased y r u guyz suggesting those ??
Dude, we just want u to get a good card unlike others who just choose some crappy cards due to their lack of commn with friends...
OK...a ques,, Why r u in hurry to get a Gfx card?

[imgame2]

i said i wanna buy a card today
if it not relased y r u guyz suggesting those ??
as RAJ said whats the hurry ....we are saying if u just wait for a month u could have a card which can all the existing card in market today ...

[techking_dinesh]

coz it is to be gifted to my brother
it is his b`day today

a month for india

so it would take nearly 3 months for nashik

i dont think hd4670 card will support my vga monitor
i cant c the port in the picture

[rajkumar_pb]

coz it is to be gifted to my brother
it is his b`day today
Then its wise to get him a XpertVision 9600GT for 5.5k or simply get him a ASUS EN8600GT 256MB DDR3 costs somewhere around 4k, which play all the games u mentioned at med settings at decent resolution... I promise he will never get disappointed with that card. In addition, its a DX10 card....:D
All for 4k...
Its upto u to choose between 9600GT and 8600GT....

[techking_dinesh]

lol just think if i wait for a month and the card does not support the asterope motherboard or some compatible prob. i would waste all my savings

suggest some 512 ddr3 card plz

[Psychosocial]

lol just think if i wait for a month and the card does not support the asterope motherboard or some compatible prob. i would waste all my savings

suggest some 512 ddr3 card plz

Xpert Vision 9600GT 512MB GDRR3 for 5.5k

[techking_dinesh]

k thanks t oall u guyz

i would try to wait for the hd4670
or go for
1.xfx9600gt 512mb gddr3
2.En8600gt

i will try to import the card via my dealer

[rajkumar_pb]

lol just think if i wait for a month and the card does not support the asterope motherboard or some compatible prob. i would waste all my savings

suggest some 512 ddr3 card plz

Man, wat u tlking abt compatible pbm.... it works well if u have a PCIe slot...so no compatibility issue there...
For ur ques,
ASUS Extreme 8600GT 512MB DDR3
ASUS EN8600GT 512MB DDR3(I hope this one is not same as above one..) There is a Silent Edition too
Just go enquire abt that and get it to ur bro..
Happy b'day wish to ur bro....

[techking_dinesh]

hoping that hd 4670 will support my vga monitor

[imgame2]

coz it is to be gifted to my brother
it is his b`day today

a month for india

so it would take nearly 3 months for nashik

i dont think hd4670 card will support my vga monitor
i cant c the port in the picture


go for what kpower has suggested and ..don't worry it will support ur VGA monitor there will a dongle inside the card box which is called DVI to VGA dongle ...and it will be fine with u ...

[rajkumar_pb]

hoping that hd 4670 will support my vga monitor
Sure, it just bundle with a DVI to VGA cable so that u can use ur VGA Monitor..... :D
Whats ur decision dude.........

[imgame2]

hoping that hd 4670 will support my vga monitor

it supports ..there is something called DVI to VGA converter dongle ..and it comes with all the gfx card ...so there shouldn't be a problem heck i m using it ...

[techking_dinesh]

ok thanks a lot to you all
me moving right on the street now to enquire

i will surely inform u watever i do

[imgame2]

Sure, it just bundle with a DVI to VGA cable so that u can use ur VGA Monitor..... :D
Whats ur decision dude.........


u look like quite charged up today dude ......:D:)

[rajkumar_pb]

ok thanks a lot to you all
me moving right on the street now to enquire

i will surely inform u watever i do
Lets get tat dude.... And inform after u get tat ....

u look like quite charged up today dude ......:D:)
Yes dude... i just now return to work after two days Day off...:D

[arvindravindranath]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
i think i killed my GPU!!!!!
nooooooooooooo.....
ok,here's what i did,i have an old 128 mb BIG fx5200 agp card
today morning i couldn't start my comp and i thought it just conked off i removed and reinserted the hard disk,ram.....everything but to no avail so i just popped in my xp recovery disk(i have an hp pavillion desktop) then after recovery when i reinsert my GPU(IF IT CAN BE CALLED ONE) the black screen comes and it says c:/system32/config.sys is missing please call your service guy blah blah....but it works fine without it so i switch off the power and then restart then i insert my software cd(the gpu's software disk) and i see "windows 98 startup menu" wtf? how can i get that when i have only xp then it tells me to start with or without cd rom support obviously i press the second option for cd rom support after that it says that system bios is corrupted please press any key to recover your bios from image stored in BIOS2 or press ctrl+c to quit,i keep pressing keys and two messages come on telling me that it is succesful and asking me to press the switch switch from bios1 to bios2 i can't find any switch on my gpu so i ignore it then i press another key it says bios transfer failed...........i remove the gpu and restart without it and it works perfectly......what do i do?did i kill it or can i recover it?

[imgame2]

Yes dude... i just now return to work after two days Day off...:D
....oh welcome back man ...!!! after two days :D

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
i think i killed my GPU!!!!!
nooooooooooooo.....
ok,here's what i did,i have an old 128 mb BIG fx5200 agp card
today morning i couldn't start my comp and i thought it just conked off i removed and reinserted the hard disk,ram.....everything but to no avail so i just popped in my xp recovery disk(i have an hp pavillion desktop) then after recovery when i reinsert my GPU(IF IT CAN BE CALLED ONE) the black screen comes and it says c:/system32/config.sys is missing please call your service guy blah blah....but it works fine without it so i switch off the power and then restart then i insert my software cd(the gpu's software disk) and i see "windows 98 startup menu" wtf? how can i get that when i have only xp then it tells me to start with or without cd rom support obviously i press the second option for cd rom support after that it says that system bios is corrupted please press any key to recover your bios from image stored in BIOS2 or press ctrl+c to quit,i keep pressing keys and two messages come on telling me that it is succesful and asking me to press the switch switch from bios1 to bios2 i can't find any switch on my gpu so i ignore it then i press another key it says bios transfer failed...........i remove the gpu and restart without it and it works perfectly......what do i do?did i kill it or can i recover it?


u did so many things ..but as long as u are getting something on monitor through GPU ..its working its not killed ...

and man windows 98 ...after a long long time i heard that name ....did not know they were still being used ..

[rajkumar_pb]

....oh welcome back man ...!!! after two days :D

Its actually four days, but two days i m resting in office as my system crashed and i just sit idle or go out for two days, and yesterday only i fix the pbm...So i am in Day Off for past four days... How good it is...:D

[akhilazeeb]

I m currently using intel 865gbf board which suppports only agp graphic cards(+p4 3ghz processor).please suggest a card under 4k for with best performance...

[imgame2]

I m currently using intel 865gbf board which suppports only agp graphic cards(+p4 3ghz processor).please suggest a card under 4k for with best performance...

well its very difficult to get an AGP card these days ... and if u get one it will be very costly and will not be worth the money ...

my suggestion will be upgrade the whole system and go for much better cards available on PCI ex ...

u can upgrade a system in about 10 k ( G31 chipset mobo+ E7200+RAM =2.8k+5.4+2k~10k or less if u choose a lower C2D)

add a gfx card later ..it will be much better option than spending on AGP ..

but if u still want to go for an AGP Card ..the best that is available is Point of View 7300 GT @3.9 k @ itwares (http://theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm)

[Psychosocial]

well its very difficult to get an AGP card these days ... and if u get one it will be very costly and will not be worth the money ...

my suggestion will be upgrade the whole system and go for much better cards available on PCI ex ...

u can upgrade a system in about 10 k ( G31 chipset mobo+ E7200+RAM =2.8k+5.4+2k~10k or less if u choose a lower C2D)

add a gfx card later ..it will be much better option than spending on AGP ..

but if u still want to go for an AGP Card ..the best that is available is Point of View 7300 GT @3.9 k @ itwares (http://theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm)

I was going to say this so +1.

[tanmoy_Siliguri]

Hey guys,there is a surprising news for us........ATI is going to release first DirectX 11 GPU in 2009..................

http://www.newtechnology.co.in/amd-ati-directx-11-graphics-cards-gpu-in-2009/

[Psychosocial]

Hey guys,there is a surprising news for us........ATI is going to release first DirectX 11 GPU in 2009..................

http://www.newtechnology.co.in/amd-ati-directx-11-graphics-cards-gpu-in-2009/

Thanks. Nice read.

[tanmoy_Siliguri]

also there is a interesting news..................

http://www.techtree.com/India/Techtree_Notes/High-speed_RAM_can_damage_Nehalem_i7_processors/551-93878-889.html

[harryneopotter]

^
y in Graphic card thread buddy ??

[beta testing]

Hey guys,there is a surprising news for us........ATI is going to release first DirectX 11 GPU in 2009..................

http://www.newtechnology.co.in/amd-ati-directx-11-graphics-cards-gpu-in-2009/

Interesting news.... ATi are catching up on the gfx card market. They're slowly and steadily coming back.... If only their team mates (AMD) could do the same with the proccy market....

[techking_dinesh]

dx10 is not yet properly settled
wats the hurry for dx11 ??

[Psychosocial]

^^Ya, :D

[comp@ddict]

dx10 is not yet properly settled
wats the hurry for dx11 ??


But they also say that DX11 will be compatible wid DX10.1 hardware through a driver update....is this true too?

[sonu1983]

hey guys,i bought my gigabyte 8800GT 512MB,in jan..lately the cards been heating up real serious..idle temp is around 65-70...and wen i tried playin crysis warhead..i think it hit 100+ n shutdown..while runin the fan at 90%..i tried cleanin the cabinet but no use..do u think i mite have to use Thermallite kit something?if u guys can help :)

amd 6000+,2gb ram,asus M2N-E,gigabte 8800GT,coolmasters 500W

[Psychosocial]

hey guys,i bought my gigabyte 8800GT 512MB,in jan..lately the cards been heating up real serious..idle temp is around 65-70...and wen i tried playin crysis warhead..i think it hit 100+ n shutdown..while runin the fan at 90%..i tried cleanin the cabinet but no use..do u think i mite have to use Thermallite kit something?if u guys can help :)

amd 6000+,2gb ram,asus M2N-E,gigabte 8800GT,coolmasters 500W

Have you overclocked it ? If so then revert it back to normal clock speeds. If not overclocked then you need to buy a cooler. Get a good thermal paste or fan or spend more and get a water cooling system.

Lets get tat dude.... And inform after u get tat ....


Yes dude... i just now return to work after two days Day off...:D

lol dude you work ? I thot u were some <17yr old college going guy :D.

[rajkumar_pb]

lol dude you work ? I thot u were some <17yr old college going guy :D.
:D
What makes u think so...

[Psychosocial]

:D
What makes u think so...

Just a wild guess :rolleyes:

[rajkumar_pb]

Just a wild guess :rolleyes:
:D
Thanks for that(Me....<17)....

[frederick_benny_digit]

can any1 suggest some custom gfx drivers for nvidia which might give better gaming experience than the standard forceware drivers???

i got a 7600 GT PCIE 256MB ddr3....i read somewhr that thr r some modified drivers which can make ur card give out most of its juice :P

[rajkumar_pb]

can any1 suggest some custom gfx drivers for nvidia which might give better gaming experience than the standard forceware drivers???

i got a 7600 GT PCIE 256MB ddr3....i read somewhr that thr r some modified drivers which can make ur card give out most of its juice :P

If so then please give us the link...(I have 7600GS dude....:D)

[yashkapoor]

Greetings to all the members http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/images/smilies/smile.gif

I have a Mercury motherboard with an Intel chipset (i845GL) whose properties are as follows.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk234/alwaystellthetruth/1-2.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk234/alwaystellthetruth/2-2.jpg

My friend lent me a GeForce 5200FX PCi Nvidia Graphics card, as he upgraded his PC and the card would be of no use to him.
The card uses an AGP slot. The card was working perfectly fine on his Motherboard. (An Intel 865G Chipset)

Now that I intend to use it for myself, the Motherboard does not detect the card at all! :(

Kindly help!

[comp@ddict]

I m currently using intel 865gbf board which suppports only agp graphic cards(+p4 3ghz processor).please suggest a card under 4k for with best performance...

If u still want the card.


3650 AGP comes for 5-5.5k...so u can get than

[NIGHTMARE]

wat is price of Sapphire 4850 going to buy in this week so plz tell me the shop name

[imgame2]

Greetings to all the members http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/images/smilies/smile.gif

I have a Mercury motherboard with an Intel chipset (i845GL) whose properties are as follows.




My friend lent me a GeForce 5200FX PCi Nvidia Graphics card, as he upgraded his PC and the card would be of no use to him.
The card uses an AGP slot. The card was working perfectly fine on his Motherboard. (An Intel 865G Chipset)

Now that I intend to use it for myself, the Motherboard does not detect the card at all! :(

Kindly help!

obviously u need to turn off the onboard gfx option from ur BIOS ...it will be recognized and before installing gfx driver for the same ..u should uninstall the extreme gfx driver

wat is price of Sapphire 4850 going to buy in this week so plz tell me the shop name

where are u located ..but why buy sappire HD4850 ? why not palit HD4850 ...?

[Psychosocial]

wat is price of Sapphire 4850 going to buy in this week so plz tell me the shop name

ranges from 9.6 - 10.2k

[beta testing]

I came across an ASUS HD4870 512 MB for around Rs 10,800 @ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121276

[Psychosocial]

I came across an ASUS HD4870 512 MB for around Rs 10,800 @ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121276

You cant convert US$ into INR like this........if it was like that then X360 would costing <11k :D.

[pawsingh]

where are u located ..but why buy sappire HD4850 ? why not palit HD4850 ...?[/quote]

Even I am planning to buy HD4850. You mean to say that palit HD4850 is better than saphire or cheaper than saphire?

[imgame2]

I came across an ASUS HD4870 512 MB for around Rs 10,800 @ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121276

first of all its available on newegg which only ships in US and canada and not outside...
and in india when a product comes it has many taxes and duties...and it gets costly ..

and what exchange rates u are using ..?? with current rates it comes to 12.85k(~13k)

and we are getting it for about 17k ...i think thats fair enough...

http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=269.9+US+dollar+in+INR&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

[nns]

I have an Intel D945GNTl mobo.. it has a PCIex16 slot..
Can I use a 9800gt or hd4850 on this mobo??

[imgame2]

where are u located ..but why buy sappire HD4850 ? why not palit HD4850 ...?

Even I am planning to buy HD4850. You mean to say that palit HD4850 is better than saphire or cheaper than saphire?

its both cheaper and better than sapphire ...it comes with latest BIOS which is why its makes no noise,runs cool and gives no problem what so ever ...

while there are cards in market with older BIOS from sapphire and MSI ..and people buying MSI and sapphire are facing heating problems ...

if u get MSI and sapphire with latest manufacturing date ..it might be coming with a newer and better BIOS and might not give u problem..

i along with about 10 forum member have bought palit 4850 and face no problems ..but people buying MSI and sapphire are facing problems ..(i don't know if newer batch of card from sapphire has come )

only catch here is palit comes with very basic things nothing flashy,a DVI-VGA convertors,manual,power cords and driver cds ..while sapphire might come with crossfire connectors and stuff like that ..which in my opinion are not worth :)..when u see palit runs cool and without noise ..

I have an Intel D945GNTl mobo.. it has a PCIex16 slot..
Can I use a 9800gt or hd4850 on this mobo??

yes u can...

[comp@ddict]

I have an Intel D945GNTl mobo.. it has a PCIex16 slot..
Can I use a 9800gt or hd4850 on this mobo??

Correct me if wrong but due to downscaling...yes it'll work with lesser performance(koi pharak nahi padta)

Well...go for 4850 not 9800GT(unless u're an nvidia fanboy:-D)

[yashkapoor]

obviously u need to turn off the onboard gfx option from ur BIOS ...it will be recognized and before installing gfx driver for the same ..u should uninstall the extreme gfx driver

How do i disable the on board GFX??? :confused:

What I have done:
After I entered the BIOS, I entered the Features setup, and there in the option "Primary Graphics Adapter", I see three options
PCI
AGP
Auto

I have set it to AGP.

[comp@ddict]

If u hav a gfx card(discrete) set it to AUTO

[amitjha]

hey all,
well I have to buy a gfx card and have heard a lot about 4850 on the forum whereas when I asked the folks at nehru place(am from delhi) they suggested 9600GT.
Now I want to know which card performs better or is better as they are almost of same price and also which brand should I buy.
Also if you can then please let me know the exact prices of the specific brands you suggest as I couldn't find 4850 at nehru place(though i looked at only 1 shop but it's the coolest one out there, name : "cost to cost").
One tiny question will these gfx cards work well with my 19" wide screen display and M31 mobo from gigabyte am planning to buy....

Thanks a lot in advance.
also wish you all a very happy and auspicious navratra,dushhera and durga puja, may the goddess bless you all...

[NIGHTMARE]

@pawsingh The only thing bios can do this is increase the speed of the fan in IInd and IIIrd mode the bios can also change the voltage of the chip to lower the temp but this is very improbable as it will make the chip unstable bcoz of not enough voltage .The bios can do is "report" a lower temp for the gpu which might make one think that the card is running cooler.Sapphire is better bcoz of better PCB quality better components used on pCB(capacitor,resistor,vrm etc) and most of the time better cooler.Also bcoz of better components/PCB their cards(GPU,Memory) usually overclock better than say palit .Palit is good no doubt but sapphireis better understood.

hey all,
well I have to buy a gfx card and have heard a lot about 4850 on the forum whereas when I asked the folks at nehru place(am from delhi) they suggested 9600GT.
Now I want to know which card performs better or is better as they are almost of same price and also which brand should I buy.
Also if you can then please let me know the exact prices of the specific brands you suggest as I couldn't find 4850 at nehru place(though i looked at only 1 shop but it's the coolest one out there, name : "cost to cost").
One tiny question will these gfx cards work well with my 19" wide screen display and M31 mobo from gigabyte am planning to buy....

Thanks a lot in advance.
also wish you all a very happy and auspicious navratra,dushhera and durga puja, may the goddess bless you all...

buy 4850 its a value for money and 60% powerful than 9600GT.plz don't compare with 9600gt man there is no comparison between them

[Psychosocial]

hey all,
well I have to buy a gfx card and have heard a lot about 4850 on the forum whereas when I asked the folks at nehru place(am from delhi) they suggested 9600GT.
Now I want to know which card performs better or is better as they are almost of same price and also which brand should I buy.
Also if you can then please let me know the exact prices of the specific brands you suggest as I couldn't find 4850 at nehru place(though i looked at only 1 shop but it's the coolest one out there, name : "cost to cost").
One tiny question will these gfx cards work well with my 19" wide screen display and M31 mobo from gigabyte am planning to buy....

Thanks a lot in advance.
also wish you all a very happy and auspicious navratra,dushhera and durga puja, may the goddess bless you all...

buy the HD4850 without a second though. It beats 9600GT to death.....heck! It even beats 2x9600GT somtimes :D. Go for the Palit HD4850 for around 9800/-. I cant help you with the shop name and all as I dont live in Delhi.

[comp@ddict]

Not that much..but depends on config...on some 4850 is an overkill..and unless u r gaming at 1680x1050 and above..no use of 4850 as 9600GT can handle all games upto there...and OCing of 9600GT is more than any else(except 9800GT a.k.a. 8800GT) i.e. 9600GT is a monster OCer + a cooler card

[NIGHTMARE]

palit 4850-Rs9500(a friend of mine purchase last month from Mumbai )

sapphire 4850-Rs10200-10300(i saw this price in forum some one quote )

[imgame2]

The only thing bios can do this is increase the speed of the fan in IInd and IIIrd mode the bios can also change the voltage of the chip to lower the temp but this is very improbable as it will make the chip unstable bcoz of not enough voltage .The bios can do is "report" a lower temp for the gpu which might make one think that the card is running cooler.Sapphire is better bcoz of better PCB quality better components used on pCB(capacitor,resistor,vrm etc) and most of the time better cooler.Also bcoz of better components/PCB their cards(GPU,Memory) usually overclock better than say palit .Palit is good no doubt but sapphireis better understood.


what was my understanding of video BIOS was this

On startup, the BIOS initializes the video card:


Initialize the GPU
Detect number of memory chips, chip size, access mode
Enable memory access and set proper timings
Detect if external devices (analog VGA, DVI, TV-out) are connected and enable them
Set core and memory clock
Enable power management
Set fan speed (if supported by the board)

source (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/34/1) what u said are just part of these,and usually newer BIOS comes with fan profile curve for default fans

and if u mean to say palit card report low temperature cos of BIOS ..then u might have better ways to measuring temp which people all over the world are unaware of and assuming plait cards report wrong temperatures.

so far i m aware of older sapphire cards being sold in market which face heating problems ..hence i just to give u heads up ..but if u want to go sapphire its ur choice.

and sir for ur kind information palit also doesn't use low quality components either ..but i guess u always go with brand names so its upto u!

ur money ur choice -the golden rule!

[NIGHTMARE]

oh my god not again all things r right which u written but give me the 1 factor which show the temp will be down after flash new BIOS.only when the new stepping comes then the temp goes down nd increase the performance.And that source u provided there nothing which related to the temp.



Ex-If u buy a new car and some one told u upgrade ur tyres then u will get better mileage no its totally wrong.After upgrading the tyres the grip will be improve and handling

[vish45a]

I'm sick of seeing so many graphics cards related threads. Now I have made a new thread. Now post all your GFX card related questions and queries in here. Whether it is price, whether it is which card to buy and whether it is nVidia or ATi, anything which includes graphics cards. And mods please make this thread this sticky. So that it stays on the top for everyone to see. This will make it easier to find the thread for graphics cards and also it will make it more neat.
hey im goin for a palit 9600GT 1GB ddr3 sonic graphic card
i want to know abt the after sales service of palit?
ny body knows abt where their customer service centres are located in India?????

[hyde]

Guys can you provide me with the address and the phone number for the Nvidia Service Center. As my 8600GT card's 3 capacitor blew yerterday night. Please help!!!:(

[Ambar]

i got my HD4870 from SMC after contacts for 15.7k ...and when i was importing it.... it was cuming out to be around 15k + shipping to delhi ....

there is a guy called katmandude or KMD on another forum who can import stuff from abroad.... and it still cums out to be cheaper than for wh its available here in india....

[comp@ddict]

buy the HD4850 without a second though. It beats 9600GT to death.....heck! It even beats 2x9600GT somtimes :D. Go for the Palit HD4850 for around 9800/-. I cant help you with the shop name and all as I dont live in Delhi.


no, 2x9600GT beats 4870, GTX 260 and SOMETIMES GTX 280.....

It matches itz ground with 2x4850 CFx and loses out to 2x4870(wat am i saying ofcourse it will lose out to 2x4870)

[NIGHTMARE]

@Ambarcongrats man for red beast i am in Q .Its cheaper but the main thing is warranty issue wat is the way to send service centre u ship to direct to abroad or KMD and u again pay ship charges for ur card

[Ambar]

@Ambarcongrats man for red beast i am in Q .Its cheaper but the main thing is warranty issue wat is the way to send service centre u ship to direct to abroad or KMD and u again pay ship charges for ur card

well tht is a very minor issue.... but u just have to send it to mumbai ... and they take care of everything.... and afaik i hvnt had a single gfx card go bad till now ..

[Psychosocial]

no, 2x9600GT beats 4870, GTX 260 and SOMETIMES GTX 280.....

It matches itz ground with 2x4850 CFx and loses out to 2x4870(wat am i saying ofcourse it will lose out to 2x4870)

Hmm...... nice then. But he aint going SLi.

[comp@ddict]

well.if anyone stes a 10k budget for mobo and a 12k budget for gfx and has OCin mnd..then 780i and 2x9600GT kicks in

[NIGHTMARE]

well tht is a very minor issue.... but u just have to send it to mumbai ... and they take care of everything.... and afaik i hvnt had a single gfx card go bad till now ..

its means u needed only ship to Bombay and its KMD duty to send abroad and ship again 2 u

[imgame2]

oh my god not again all things r right which u written but give me the 1 factor which show the temp will be down after flash new BIOS.only when the new stepping comes then the temp goes down nd increase the performance.And that source u provided there nothing which related to the temp.

do u understand something about effect of fan and its speed on cooling ? and fan curve profile ..thats there in a BIOS ?



Ex-If u buy a new car and some one told u upgrade ur tyres then u will get better mileage no its totally wrong.After upgrading the tyres the grip will be improve and handling

wrong example BIOS is something that starts and initializes the card,its not something on which card runs on ..something like battery ..and starting mechanism to engine..not tires

and if u had read carefully i m not talking about temperatures here ...it answers other issues as well..people do get various errors while playing games..like VPU errors and restarting.

anyways i gave an advice in good faith ..its upto a person to use it.

thats about it from me on this topic :)

[Ambar]

its means u needed only ship to Bombay and its KMD duty to send abroad and ship again 2 u

well actually..but im not sure if u have to pay for getting it from mumbai...also or not.,..

[nns]

Correct me if wrong but due to downscaling...yes it'll work with lesser performance(koi pharak nahi padta)

Well...go for 4850 not 9800GT(unless u're an nvidia fanboy:-D)

Thanks, but what do you mean by downscaling here? (I am a n00b as far graphics are concerned...)

I did think that it wouldn't perform best at the config... I am thinking of upgrading da pc after a couple of months (waiting for nehalem)

neways.. i heard dat 9800gt would be 2k's cheaper than 4850... Is it right??

Also are Xpertvision and Palit the same?? (look at the contact information on xpertvision worldwide) Do either provide service in India??

How is Gecube for HD 4850??

Anyone from Pune here?? Any particularly good shop for graphics cards in Pune?

PS:Sorry for too many questions..

[Psychosocial]

Thanks, but what do you mean by downscaling here? (I am a n00b as far graphics are concerned...)

I did think that it wouldn't perform best at the config... I am thinking of upgrading da pc after a couple of months (waiting for nehalem)

neways.. i heard dat 9800gt would be 2k's cheaper than 4850... Is it right??

Downscaling means to perform lower than the full capacity. As you dont have a PCIex16 Gen2.0 slot....it will perform at a lower rate than it should but it will work and the difference will be hardlly 8-11%.

9800GT is around 1.9-2.1k cheaper but that extra 2k spent on a HD4850 is well worth it.

[nns]

Thanks.. I've chaged my post a little.. Pls reply to the other questions too if u can..

[mihirpradhan2004]

I want to buy a new graphics card and a TV Tuner Card too. My overall budget for both is Rs.5500/- Please suggest me the best ones in my budget. Is there any good Graphics Card+TV Tuner Card in my budget? If there is one then please suggest me one. Which is better - XFX 8600GT or Zotac 9500GT

[Psychosocial]

Thanks, but what do you mean by downscaling here? (I am a n00b as far graphics are concerned...)

I did think that it wouldn't perform best at the config... I am thinking of upgrading da pc after a couple of months (waiting for nehalem)

neways.. i heard dat 9800gt would be 2k's cheaper than 4850... Is it right??

Also are Xpertvision and Palit the same?? (look at the contact information on xpertvision worldwide) Do either provide service in India??

How is Gecube for HD 4850??

Anyone from Pune here?? Any particularly good shop for graphics cards in Pune?

PS:Sorry for too many questions..

Xpert Vision and Palit are same. AFAIK both provide service here........ Palit has more support though :).

GeCube is good but Palit is better with new BIOS and cooler.

I aint from Pune.

Ask more..... it benifits us at the end :razz:.

[asigh]

Seeing the above mentioned threads about BIOS...

It holds initial values which a component needs to run. It in a way tells a functional component, in which manner to start...execute..and continue running..and shut down. Just a basic storage area. Similar to an INI file for software...!

[comp@ddict]

Thanks, but what do you mean by downscaling here? (I am a n00b as far graphics are concerned...)

I did think that it wouldn't perform best at the config... I am thinking of upgrading da pc after a couple of months (waiting for nehalem)

neways.. i heard dat 9800gt would be 2k's cheaper than 4850... Is it right??

Also are Xpertvision and Palit the same?? (look at the contact information on xpertvision worldwide) Do either provide service in India??

How is Gecube for HD 4850??

Anyone from Pune here?? Any particularly good shop for graphics cards in Pune?

PS:Sorry for too many questions..

No probs...

Gecube is the Sapphire brand but is about 1k costlier than Palit...

GO for full sys upgrade.

and one thing..u want performance..luk no further than 4850

[ironfreak]

(dropeed previous idea quadro) :(

Suggest good option for 9800 gtx+ ssc 512 mb. From Ati may be. Shall work better or equal. Budget 15k, can extend upto max 17k if cards worth.

Waiting for reply.
Thanks...:)

[tkin]

(dropeed previous idea quadro) :(

Suggest good option for 9800 gtx+ ssc 512 mb. From Ati may be. Shall work better or equal. Budget 15k, can extend upto max 17k if cards worth.

Waiting for reply.
Thanks...:)
For 17k get the Palit HD4870, the fastest single card solution out there, will make you futureproof for least 3 yrs.

[gladijames]

Buddies ,

I hav a Intel Original 946GZ Express Chipset, 512 Mb DDR2 Ram, Intel Core 2 Duo @1.86

Ghz with Windows Xp sp3.

I wanna buy a Good Graphics Card For Gaming And For Vista !! And my Budget stands

between 6k -8k !! I need a compatible Graphic Card !!

Plz Guide me to buy a gud one?!!

How abt GeForce 8600 GTS?? plz help me Indian rates ?

[beta testing]

The 8600GTS is outdated now. Within your budget, you can buy a MSI 9600GT. But it's highly recommended to spend 1.5K extra to buy a PALIT HD4850.

[Psychosocial]

Buddies ,

I hav a Intel Original 946GZ Express Chipset, 512 Mb DDR2 Ram, Intel Core 2 Duo @1.86

Ghz with Windows Xp sp3.

I wanna buy a Good Graphics Card For Gaming And For Vista !! And my Budget stands

between 6k -8k !! I need a compatible Graphic Card !!

Plz Guide me to buy a gud one?!!

How abt GeForce 8600 GTS?? plz help me Indian rates ?

A new card called HD4670 from ATi will be hitting the Indian shores soon. I highly recommand to wait for it. If you juct cant wait then, I suggest a Palit 9800GT 512MB GDDR3 for 7600/-.

[frederick_benny_digit]

whoa...9800gt proces have droppe so much?? this is a real gud time for gamers :D

i think ill upgrade from my 7600gt :(

BTW, HD4850 or 9800GT ??? which 1 to go for???
also, which is the loathed brand, XFX or MSI ??? XFX rite?? (some heating issues or somethin??)

[sagargv]

^^ get 2x 9600GT .

[frederick_benny_digit]

oops...i meant 9800GT ^^

editing post :D

[beta testing]

Hd4850 Ftw!!!

[comp@ddict]

whoa...9800gt proces have droppe so much?? this is a real gud time for gamers :D

i think ill upgrade from my 7600gt :(

BTW, HD4850 or 9800GT ??? which 1 to go for???
also, which is the loathed brand, XFX or MSI ??? XFX rite?? (some heating issues or somethin??)

2 options:
1. 4850 @ 9.4k

If u hav Sli mobo with 12k budget for gfx card:
2. 2x9600GT @ 11.8k


9800GT is okay,, but 4850 pwns it

[beta testing]

whoa...9800gt proces have droppe so much?? this is a real gud time for gamers :D

i think ill upgrade from my 7600gt :(

BTW, HD4850 or 9800GT ??? which 1 to go for???
also, which is the loathed brand, XFX or MSI ??? XFX rite?? (some heating issues or somethin??)

Either go for the PALIT HD4850 or 2x XFX 9600GT Alpha Dog Edition (fancy name ain't it? :-D) if your mobo supports SLI.

[keith_j_snyder2]

9600GT SLI for sure! HD4850 won't be able to match it's performance.

[Psychosocial]

If u have SLi mobo then blow all the competition away with 2x9600GT but if u dont have a SLi mobo and cant buy one, then I suggest a Palit HD4850 SONIC 512MB GDDR3.

[offtopic] Digit gave the Best Performance in mid range, Editors Choice and the Best Buy award to a Zotac 9800GTX AMP! card......... dunno why. It wasnt even the 9800GTX+, only the plain jane 9800GTX. [\offtopic].

[KaranTh85]

Hey which card run coolest...

i)Palit HD 4850
ii)Sapphire HD4850
iii)XpertVision HD4850
iv)GeCube HD4850
v)Any other brand of 4850 u know :wink:

@Kpowermania: when i was 13...i was a duffer & dull :cool:

[Psychosocial]

Palit HD4850 SONIC runs the coolest 8).

@KaranTh85 .......I am 13 and I am not duffer and dull :D.

[KaranTh85]

Palit HD4850 SONIC runs the coolest 8).
thanx 4 the info....:rolleyes:..so saphire is not coolest..hmm

@KaranTh85 .......I am 13 and I am not duffer and dull :D.

I was just comparing...nothing personal...u r intelligent i know dat ;-)

[imgame2]

ok i don't understand why u people are going gaga over 2x9600gt ?

i guess it all had to do with new article at tomshardware

if u guys haven't seen the article more closely please look again

the card mentioned there are

1)asus 9600GT silent - difficult to find in india and one available at lynx costs 12k
2)palit 9600gt sonic -availbale at itwares for 8.5k
3)MSI 9600 gt - available at itwares for 8.6k
4)spakle 9600gt calibre -since its actively cooled model should be available at the same price as plait or sonic if at all available

even the EVGA 9600 gt KO model is 8k @ itwares

all of the above are pre-overclocked(except ASUS) and in most certainity are 512 MB model and all the models used for SLI were 1GB model ..so u can guess in india if they are available they will cost 1~2k more(even if 1GB memory doesn't make much difference on single card ..but few games love more memory )

u can do the maths how much two 9600gt used there will cost atleast of 16k in any case ...even if u use cheapest available from palit for 6.5k @ it wares u will get it for 13k ...and thats the max performance these cards can give in present day games... coming up will be harsh on these cards ...

my suggestion would be to buy a xfire mobo and buy a Hd4850 for 9.5~9.7k and add another one in six months or so when prices come down ..then spending on 2x9600gt its again not value for money ..if u compare the fps difference u will get it won't be worth spending 3k or 4k more in any case ...

even though crossfire on that particular article looks bad cos tomshardware is using old ati drivers (they always do i don't know why ..) but things are getting better for HD4850 crossfire with every new driver release ...(just google it)

having said all that
to give u a general picture of everything from the same article

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/GeForce-9600-overclock,2028-21.html

the average fps 2x9600gt(pre-OCed)(1GB) SLI in all the games is 3318.1 FPS

and plain HD4850 gives in all games 2965.6 FPS


calculating percentage increase in performance (3318.1-2965.6)*100/2965.6 = 11.9 % or lets say 12 % for 4k more ..is it worth ??
the minimum pre-Oced 9600 GT available from xpertvision @7.1k still making it a 14.2k affair ..

and no way u can get that performance with plain 9600 gt (xpertvisition 9600gt @ 5.8k @ lynx will make it 11.6k )and they will perform the same as HD4850 ..cos they are not pre-oced and not actively cooled and will cost still 2k more than HD4850 ...and i don't have to mention if u OC two SLI cards ...u will need considerable cooling investment ..cos they are cards up close together

[rajkumar_pb]

ok i don't understand why u people are going gaga over 2x9600gt ?

i guess it all had to do with new article at tomshardware

if u guys haven't seen the article more closely please look again

the card mentioned there are

1)asus 9600GT silent - difficult to find in india and one available at lynx costs 12k
2)palit 9600gt sonic -availbale at itwares for 8.5k
3)MSI 9600 gt - available at itwares for 8.6k
4)spakle 9600gt calibre -since its actively cooled model should be available at the same price as plait or sonic if at all available

even the EVGA 9600 gt KO model is 8k @ itwares

all of the above are pre-overclocked(except ASUS) and in most certainity are 512 MB model and all the models used for SLI were 1GB model ..so u can guess in india if they are available they will cost 1~2k more(even if 1GB memory doesn't make much difference on single card ..but few games love more memory )

u can do the maths how much two 9600gt used there will cost atleast of 16k in any case ...even if u use cheapest available from palit for 6.5k @ it wares u will get it for 13k ...and thats the max performance these cards can give in present day games... coming up will be harsh on these cards ...

my suggestion would be to buy a xfire mobo and buy a Hd4850 for 9.5~9.7k and add another one in six months or so when prices come down ..then spending on 2x9600gt its again not value for money ..if u compare the fps difference u will get it won't be worth spending 3k or 4k more in any case ...

even though crossfire on that particular article looks bad cos tomshardware is using old ati drivers (they always do i don't know why ..) but things are getting better for HD4850 with every new driver release ...(just google it)

having said all that
to give u a general picture of everything from the same article

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/GeForce-9600-overclock,2028-21.html

the average fps 2x9600gt(pre-OCed)(1GB) SLI in all the games is 3318.1 FPS

and plain HD4850 gives in all games 2965.6 FPS


calculating percentage increase in performance (3318.1-2965.6)*100/2965.6 = 11.9 % or lets say 12 % for 4k more ..is it worth ??
the minimum pre-Oced 9600 GT available from xpertvision @7.1k still making it a 14.2k affair ..

and no way u can get that performance with plain 9600 gt (xpertvisition 9600gt @ 5.8k @ lynx will make it 11.6k )and they will perform the same as HD4850 ..cos they are not pre-oced and not actively cooled and will cost still 2k more than HD4850 ...and i don't have to mention if u OC two SLI cards ...u will need considerable cooling investment ..cos they are cards are close together
Nicely said...

[imgame2]

Hey which card run coolest...

i)Palit HD 4850
ii)Sapphire HD4850
iii)XpertVision HD4850
iv)GeCube HD4850
v)Any other brand of 4850 u know :wink:



AFAFIK.... Palit and Xpertvision HD4850 are the coolest ..since both are same company ..just different brand name due to dual slot cooler and newest BIOS.

also i as far as i know palit HD4850 sonic is not yet available in india ..correct me if i m wrong.

my card idles @49 deg which is pretty cool ..

here to show u the temp ..check the pics ..i m sorry about using two different GPU-Z versions but one version gives the basic info wrong and other one doesn't let capture pics

http://thinkdigit.com/forum/%5BURL=http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palithd4850infouy8.gif%5D%5BIMG%5Dhtt p://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2940/palithd4850infouy8.th.gif%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D%5BURL=http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img60.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5Dhttp://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palithd4850tempjn6.gifhttp://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palithd4850tempjn6.gif

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palithd4850tempjn6.gif


this is the card

http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=4_272&products_id=2437


http://thinkdigit.com/forum/%5BURL=http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palithd4850tempjn6.gif%5D%5BIMG%5Dhtt p://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5775/palithd4850tempjn6.th.gif%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D%5BURL=http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img134.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D

[Plasma_Snake]

Palit has 3 models for HD4850:
1. Bare bones HD4850 for 9300 bucks having Copper Heat Sink and a Fan mounted on it.
2. Simple Single slot Cooler model retailing for nearly 10K.
3. Sonic Edition having Dual Heat pipe design and a fan on top of that making it the coolest HD4850 u can get right out of the box. catch is, it costs 11-12K !

[NIGHTMARE]

its both cheaper and better than sapphire ...it comes with latest BIOS which is why its makes no noise,runs cool and gives no problem what so ever ...

while there are cards in market with older BIOS from sapphire and MSI ..and people buying MSI and sapphire are facing heating problems ...

if u get MSI and sapphire with latest manufacturing date ..it might be coming with a newer and better BIOS and might not give u problem..

i along with about 10 forum member have bought palit 4850 and face no problems ..but people buying MSI and sapphire are facing problems ..(i don't know if newer batch of card from sapphire has come )

only catch here is palit comes with very basic things nothing flashy,a DVI-VGA convertors,manual,power cords and driver cds ..while sapphire might come with crossfire connectors and stuff like that ..which in my opinion are not worth :)..when u see palit runs cool and without noise ..






first u giving advised do not buy sapphire card bcoz there is heating issue due to BIOS.Then u write new sapphire come with latest and newer BIOS might not give u problem.So its means the older BIOS is the main problem of heating.Its ur words ok

do u understand something about effect of fan and its speed on cooling ? and fan curve profile ..thats there in a BIOS ?




wrong example BIOS is something that starts and initializes the card,its not something on which card runs on ..something like battery ..and starting mechanism to engine..not tires

and if u had read carefully i m not talking about temperatures here ...it answers other issues as well..people do get various errors while playing games..like VPU errors and restarting.

anyways i gave an advice in good faith ..its upto a person to use it.

thats about it from me on this topic :)


then u said "if u had read carefully i m not talking about temperatures here ".So which topic we r discussing its not heating issue ?

[sagargv]

ok i don't understand why u people are going gaga over 2x9600gt ?

i guess it all had to do with new article at tomshardware

if u guys haven't seen the article more closely please look again

the card mentioned there are

1)asus 9600GT silent - difficult to find in india and one available at lynx costs 12k
2)palit 9600gt sonic -availbale at itwares for 8.5k
3)MSI 9600 gt - available at itwares for 8.6k
4)spakle 9600gt calibre -since its actively cooled model should be available at the same price as plait or sonic if at all available

even the EVGA 9600 gt KO model is 8k @ itwares

all of the above are pre-overclocked(except ASUS) and in most certainity are 512 MB model and all the models used for SLI were 1GB model ..so u can guess in india if they are available they will cost 1~2k more(even if 1GB memory doesn't make much difference on single card ..but few games love more memory )

u can do the maths how much two 9600gt used there will cost atleast of 16k in any case ...even if u use cheapest available from palit for 6.5k @ it wares u will get it for 13k ...and thats the max performance these cards can give in present day games... coming up will be harsh on these cards ...

my suggestion would be to buy a xfire mobo and buy a Hd4850 for 9.5~9.7k and add another one in six months or so when prices come down ..then spending on 2x9600gt its again not value for money ..if u compare the fps difference u will get it won't be worth spending 3k or 4k more in any case ...

even though crossfire on that particular article looks bad cos tomshardware is using old ati drivers (they always do i don't know why ..) but things are getting better for HD4850 crossfire with every new driver release ...(just google it)

having said all that
to give u a general picture of everything from the same article

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/GeForce-9600-overclock,2028-21.html

the average fps 2x9600gt(pre-OCed)(1GB) SLI in all the games is 3318.1 FPS

and plain HD4850 gives in all games 2965.6 FPS


calculating percentage increase in performance (3318.1-2965.6)*100/2965.6 = 11.9 % or lets say 12 % for 4k more ..is it worth ??
the minimum pre-Oced 9600 GT available from xpertvision @7.1k still making it a 14.2k affair ..

and no way u can get that performance with plain 9600 gt (xpertvisition 9600gt @ 5.8k @ lynx will make it 11.6k )and they will perform the same as HD4850 ..cos they are not pre-oced and not actively cooled and will cost still 2k more than HD4850 ...and i don't have to mention if u OC two SLI cards ...u will need considerable cooling investment ..cos they are cards up close together

i stand corrected..

2x9600GT , as u said is better compared to hd4850 for people with SLI mobo's. .for those with X-fire , 4850 is the way to go. but i find little point in asking guys with SLI mobo's to get 4850. . but if the 9600GT is costing 8k , its not worth it.. i thot it costed 6k now.. .

[imgame2]

Palit has 3 models for HD4850:
1. Bare bones HD4850 for 9300 bucks having Copper Heat Sink and a Fan mounted on it.
2. Simple Single slot Cooler model retailing for nearly 10K.
3. Sonic Edition having Dual Heat pipe design and a fan on top of that making it the coolest HD4850 u can get right out of the box. catch is, it costs 11-12K !

As far as i know there is only one model available in market from 9.4 to 9.7k now and thats the second one ...the first one was the early model which is not coming anymore ...


and 3rd one is still not available in India as far as i know ..is it availbale in delhi ?....only palit 4870 sonic is what i heard is available ...

[sahilshah1987]

Finally got Palit 9600 Gt today installed it working grt:p Now is der any optimizations tht need to be done? any ideas? How do u guys calculate gpu temp on load ie when playing game? do tell me the softwares needed.
TIA

[imgame2]

i stand corrected..

2x9600GT , as u said is better compared to hd4850 for people with SLI mobo's. .for those with X-fire , 4850 is the way to go. but i find little point in asking guys with SLI mobo's to get 4850. . but if the 9600GT is costing 8k , its not worth it.. i thot it costed 6k now.. .

my view was not against or pointed towards u ...i m sorry if my words felt like that ..

yes u are right ..about SLI mobo ..and the cheapest i could find was xpertvision @ 5.8k @ lynx (without shipping charges) and thats plain 9600gt ...do u think plain 9600gt SLI @ 11.6k will perform better than HD4850 (@ 9.4~9.7k )and will be value for money at the same time ?? whats ur view on this ?


i m saying the pre-oced version all cost about 8k cheapest being xpervision for about 7.1k..so are they worth going for in india ?

please correct me if i m wrong.

Finally got Palit 9600 Gt today installed it working grt:p Now is der any optimizations tht need to be done? any ideas? How do u guys calculate gpu temp on load ie when playing game? do tell me the softwares needed.
TIA

for gpu temp get GPU-Z and for in-game FPS measuring get FRAPS

[blacrobous]

damm this HD 4850 gets too hot even at idle states i dont know how to cool it down it goes at a temp of 82C nuts!:mad:

[imgame2]

damm this HD 4850 gets too hot even at idle states i dont know how to cool it down it goes at a temp of 82C nuts!:mad:

which brand ? ? when u bought it ?

try increasing the fan speed with fan tweak ...soon catalyst 8.10 will be out and will give u the option to increase the fan speed from CCC till then use the fan tweak ..it will help u

[blacrobous]

yesterday i got all the components u guys suggested its palit hd4850 goin at 82C:sad:

can u tell me where i can find tht tweak?

[imgame2]

yesterday i got all the components u guys suggested its palit hd4850 goin at 82C:sad:

can u tell me where i can find tht tweak?

how much did u get it for ..? and whats its manufacturing date ?

is this is the card ?

http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=4_272&products_id=2437

its got to be this ..cos as far as i m aware this is the only model available in market from palit ...where are u located ?

[comp@ddict]

Well..82C with fan @ 33% speed..Use riva tuner and get fan speed to 80% to see the magic drop

Statuory warning-Increased sound

[sagargv]

my view was not against or pointed towards u ...i m sorry if my words felt like that ..

yes u are right ..about SLI mobo ..and the cheapest i could find was xpertvision @ 5.8k @ lynx (without shipping charges) and thats plain 9600gt ...do u think plain 9600gt SLI @ 11.6k will perform better than HD4850 (@ 9.4~9.7k )and will be value for money at the same time ?? whats ur view on this ?


i m saying the pre-oced version all cost about 8k cheapest being xpervision for about 7.1k..so are they worth going for in india ?

please correct me if i m wrong.



for gpu temp get GPU-Z and for in-game FPS measuring get FRAPS

no offense taken. . we're here to argue and make a point. ..

i stand by what i said .. with a SLI board and 2x 9600GT , its much better than radeon 4850. .for mobo's with no multi gpu possible , 4850 is the only choice. .. but if u're buying a new pc or have a sli board , 2x9600GT is the best bang for buck upto 13k or 14k.

http://www.guru3d.com/category/vga_charts_stalker_quake_wars/

http://www.guru3d.com/category/vga_charts_crysis/

http://www.guru3d.com/category/vga_charts_graw_2_fuel_war/

http://www.guru3d.com/category/call_duty_4_pc/

the 9600GT SLI consistently wins and by quite a good margin.It beats even the 4850 CF sometimes. .
Toms dont use top of the line proccy. . so i'm not very confident abt toms results actually.. although , they give a good picture of what to expect. .

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce9600gt-sli_9.html#sect1

this further proves that 9600GT SLI scales very well and consistently does so . .another thing to notice in the case of 9600GT SLI is that it scales well even at low resolutions like 1280x1024 and even at 1680x1050. .monster cards show good scaling with SLI or X-fire only at full HD or HD+ resolutions.

I think reference cards were used for these benchies. .if not , OCing it a bit should not be too difficult (even if u dont OC , u'll get pretty decent performance ) and 9600GT is not known to be very hot or power consuming . if it comes to temp and power , 4850 will be more difficult to pair than 9600GT.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3234&p=2

on this extreme system ( a skulltrail mobo !!! ) , 9600GT SLI consumes only 396 watt !! A corsair vx450W may pull it off for a dual core system or even a quad core which is not heavily OCed. .

[amizdu]

I love to play GTA, but my onboard graphics solution doesn't seem to be able to keep up with my speed! :sad:

So, I want to buy a very cheap graphics card that would atleast allow me to play the game in minimal setting without any hitch. Also, as I'm going to get myself a completely new comp. next year, I just need a very temporary solution. :)

Could someone please suggest me some graphics card. The budget shall be as low as possible. But, I want to buy a new one.

I've a geniune Intel with PCI slots.


Thanks

[Plasma_Snake]

blacrobous
The software is Riva Tuner. It is used for OCing and Tweaking every type of GPU. Find it at Guru3D.com
ingame2
I have not personally seen any of the 3 but the first one is available in Mumbai and in rest of India through shipping from ITWares! AFA last one, Sonic Edition is concerned u can get it through KMD

I love to play GTA, but my onboard graphics solution doesn't seem to be able to keep up with my speed! :sad:

So, I want to buy a very cheap graphics card that would atleast allow me to play the game in minimal setting without any hitch. Also, as I'm going to get myself a completely new comp. next year, I just need a very temporary solution. :)

Could someone please suggest me some graphics card. The budget shall be as low as possible. But, I want to buy a new one.

I've a geniune Intel with PCI slots.


Thanks
Buddy tell us ur budget and Motherboard model or make to allow us to help u effectively. :cool:

[amizdu]

^^
4000? The lesser the better. Because its going to be a use and throw. :D

[yashkapoor]

Greetings to all the members :)

I have a Mercury motherboard with an Intel chipset (i845GL) whose properties are as follows.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk234/alwaystellthetruth/1-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk234/alwaystellthetruth/2-2.jpg


My friend lent me a GeForce 5200FX Nvidia Graphics card, as he upgraded his PC and the card would be of no use to him.
The card uses an AGP slot. The card was working perfectly fine on his Motherboard. (An Intel 865G Chipset)

Now that I intend to use it for myself, the Motherboard does not detect the card at all! :(

How do i disable the on board GFX??? :confused:

What I have done