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[imgame2]

thanx bro! :)

i really need a graphix upgrade...hv been holding on since june...thank god i did :D :D.......then i ws going for 8800gt ko...and now 4850/9800gtx+ :D....havent decided yet....:(
i even put up a poll to gauge public response..still nothin concrete....
theres no factory overclocked 4850 in sight w/ cooler(its hott!)....and i dont knw whether to let go of CUDA & Physx... :(

helppp

no need for thanks bro i was in same situation as u 3 months before i was going for 8800 gt as i hold it due to some marriage function at home ...and i m glad that i did now i have much better options at hand 4850/9800 gtx+ actually ur post did create a confusion in my mind too.

then i asked myself ,

do i need cuda and physX ?

i really enjoy programming and i have to yet to be well versed with DX10/open gl 2.0 programming.so doing something with CUDA i need to do a lot more programming before i can reach there! so CUDA is way to go for me!

physX - so far haven't seen much improvement in games due to it!

my use for graphics card for me is to play games with all eye candy on and for watching videos and UVD2 has better quality/performance than pure video decoder 2.0/3.0

hd4850 gives all these plus great image quality.

newer and better cards will keep coming out ..nVidia is not going to sit quiet.but i want the card now,which should last for 2 years and today i feel palit hd4850 sonic suits to my need perfectly.

palit hd4850 sonic has a good dual slot cooler

look here http://forum.palit.biz/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=196&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

hd4850 maintains good frame rate even at higher resolutions with all eye candy on.

frankly i feel CUDA and PhysX are in their intial stages alot needs to be done to them and 9800gtx+ isn't quite equipped to handle these things efficiently as its old architecture...the same 8800 architecture with minor adjustments but on 55 nm fabrication process.on the other hand rv770 is newer and better ...and smart architecture which will do good for atleast a year !

and yes in future definately with dual core GPU's PhysX will get better and more efficient but right now PhysX doesn't do anything spectacular.

so i reasoned myself i don't need either CUDA or PhysX but definately a great card which can perform well thats what palit HD 4850 sonic is according to me.

[mukherjee]

no need for thanks bro i was in same situation as u 3 months before i was going for 8800 gt as i hold it due to some marriage function at home ...and i m glad that i did now i have much better options at hand 4850/9800 gtx+ actually ur post did create a confusion in my mind too.

then i asked myself ,

do i need cuda and physX ?

i really enjoy programming and i have to yet to be well versed with DX10/open gl 2.0 programming.so doing something with CUDA i need to do a lot more programming before i can reach there! so CUDA is way to go for me!

physX - so far haven't seen much improvement in games due to it!

my use for graphics card for me is to play games with all eye candy on and for watching videos and UDV2 has better quality/performance than pure video decoder 2.0/3.0

hd4850 gives all these plus great image quality.

newer and better cards will keep coming out ..nVidia is not going to sit quiet.but i want the card now,which should last for 2 years and today i feel palit hd4850 sonic suits to my need perfectly.

palit hd4850 sonic has a good dual slot cooler

look here http://forum.palit.biz/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=196&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

hd4850 maintains good frame rate even at higher resolutions with all eye candy on.

frankly i feel CUDA and PhysX are in their intial stages alot needs to be done to them and 9800gtx+ isn't quite equipped to handle these things efficiently as its old architecture...the same 8800 architecture with minor adjustments but on 55 nm fabrication process.on the other hand rv770 is newer and better ...and smart architecture which will do good for atleast a year !

and yes in future definately with dual core GPU's PhysX will get better and more efficient but right now PhysX doesn't do anything spectacular.

so i reasoned myself i don't need either CUDA or PhysX but definately a great card which can perform well thats what palit HD 4850 sonic is according to me.

i buy ur view bro....
i am a medical student...d only thing i need a gpu is for gaming and movies(hd :D yippee)!
4850 shud do fine....d sad fact is that the palit 4850 sonic isnt yet available here... :(
wat to do? order it online? or request tirupati to get one for me? :o

[imgame2]

^^Dude. Forget about 9800GTX+. 9800GTX costs around 18k. HD4870 is cheaper than 9800GTX. Moreover, I can get a crossfired setup of HD4850 for the price of one 9800GTX+ and the HD4850 setup will be miles ahead of 9800GTX if you hybrid crossfire it with 780G chipset board.

dude u are mistaken about 9800 gtx+ its different from 9800 gtx

9800gtx+ is based on 55nm process hence its much cheaper than 9800 gtx and is around 12k ..nvidia has launched it to compete with hd4850 its just old wine in new bottle ...nothing else !

[tkin]

^^Dude. Forget about 9800GTX+. 9800GTX costs around 18k. HD4870 is cheaper than 9800GTX. Moreover, I can get a crossfired setup of HD4850 for the price of one 9800GTX+ and the HD4850 setup will be miles ahead of 9800GTX if you hybrid crossfire it with 780G chipset board.

Sorry dude, the XFX 9800GTX+ should cost about 16,000/- according to Rashi Peripheral press release on 16th july- http://priceguru.in/archives/news/new-hardware/2083 the HD4870 costs about 20,000/- http://priceguru.in/prices/ati-graphics-cards and two HD4850 costs about 24,000/-.

Also, the ZOTAC 9800GTX+ already costs about 12,000/- (which is equal to HD4850). http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2244

So, the 9800GTX+ is still the best Performance:Money option if its available.

[imgame2]

Hi mukherjee,I'm from Kolkata as well & I'v got the same thought as you. Right now the 9800GTX+ seems a better option than HD4850 as the former outperforms the latter in almost every aspect.The HD4870 is better than 9800gtx+ but costs more:(.If you have any update about the XFX 9800GTX+ in Kolkata please post here.
Do you think it will be available in Kolkata by October?:rolleyes:

would u like to show me how 9800 gtx+ outperforms hd4850 ...send some link please.

[mukherjee]

dude u are mistaken about 9800 gtx+ its different from 9800 gtx

9800gtx+ is based on 55nm process hence its much cheaper than 9800 gtx and is around 12k ..nvidia has launched it to compete with hd4850 its just old wine in new bottle ...nothing else !

+1

9800gtx core/shader/memry-675/1688/1100 & 65nm
9800gtx+ core/shader/mmry-738/1836/1100 & 55nm

Sorry dude, the XFX 9800GTX+ should cost about 16,000/- according to Rashi Peripheral press release on 16th july- http://priceguru.in/archives/news/new-hardware/2083 the HD4870 costs about 20,000/- http://priceguru.in/prices/ati-graphics-cards and two HD4850 costs about 24,000/-.

Also, the ZOTAC 9800GTX+ already costs about 12,000/- (which is equal to HD4850). http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2244

So, the 9800GTX+ is still the best Performance:Money option if its available.

i guess ur opinion is bit flawed.
regarding the price part...plz visit the appropriate sections at theitwares.com & techshop.in .....

9800gtx+ never outperforms 4850..rather it gets outperformed 8) ..... visit tomshardware, hexus.net and others 4 confirmation.

would u like to show me how 9800 gtx+ outperforms hd4850 ...send some link please.

+123456789 ...... :D

[imgame2]

Sorry dude, the XFX 9800GTX+ should cost about 16,000/- according to Rashi Peripheral press release on 16th july- http://priceguru.in/archives/news/new-hardware/2083 the HD4870 costs about 20,000/- http://priceguru.in/prices/ati-graphics-cards and two HD4850 costs about 24,000/-.

Also, the ZOTAC 9800GTX+ already costs about 12,000/- (which is equal to HD4850). http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2244

So, the 9800GTX+ is still the best Performance:Money option if its available.

i m sorry to say u are sadly mistaken .....


read this and u will know what it means by hd4850

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4850,1957.html

and this card palit hd 4850 sonic (pre-oced version @ 685 MHz) performs better than 9800gtx+ which is available @ 11k on lynx about 800/- less ....which makes it a better buy.

[tkin]

would u like to show me how 9800 gtx+ outperforms hd4850 ...send some link please.

Heres one link- http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=580&type=expert
Google "9800GTX+ review" to view more.Although the difference is barely 5% but with the upcoming games implementing PhysX & CUDA support I'm afraid the gap can widen.
I'm not a nVidia fanboy.Infact I'm currently using ATI graphics but this is the current situation.

i m sorry to say u are sadly mistaken .....


read this and u will know what it means by hd4850

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4850,1957.html

and this card palit hd 4850 sonic (pre-oced version @ 685 MHz) performs better than 9800gtx+ which is available @ 11k on lynx about 800/- less ....which makes it a better buy.
I don't get it.All this page shows are some non standard benchmarks.Where's 3DMARK data & most important game FPS data..
Look at my link for some standard results- http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=580&type=expert

[mukherjee]

Heres one link- http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=580&type=expert
Google "9800GTX+ review" to view more.Although the difference is barely 5% but with the upcoming games implementing PhysX & CUDA support I'm afraid the gap can widen.
I'm not a nVidia fanboy.Infact I'm currently using ATI graphics but this is the current situation.

and we arent ATI fanboys.... :)
d fact is...to say it meaningfully,a few sides(websites!) really want nvidia to do better..... like pcper and guru3d...
jus compare findings on both:
tomshardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4870-x2-amd,1992.html
guru3d: http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4870-x2-review-crossfire/1

if u keep ur eyes open...u will spot some differences...

go to anandtech.....tomshardware for more 'authentic' reviews....

[imgame2]

i buy ur view bro....
i am a medical student...d only thing i need a gpu is for gaming and movies(hd :D yippee)!
4850 shud do fine....d sad fact is that the palit 4850 sonic isnt yet available here... :(
wat to do? order it online? or request tirupati to get one for me? :o

its always wise to buy from a local dealer,it really gives u satisfaction and if u run into some problem,u can go and get it repaired/replaced on ur own and fast.

and i always feel comfortable with what we say - "ek hath de ek hath le"

and tirupati are good distributors they should be able to get u palit hd 4850 sonic. but perhaps lynx india is one of the best online shops in india.they have good response and reputation. so i guess it shouldn't be a problem doing bussiness with them and if u still feel unsure.i feel u can find many people here who have done bussiness with lynx before ..they will help u out!

Heres one link- http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=580&type=expert
Google "

I don't get it.All this page shows are some non standard benchmarks.Where's 3DMARK data & most important game FPS data..
Look at my link for some standard results- http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=580&type=expert

dude i don't play 3dmark !!! its synthetic benchmark ..u can watch its all eyecandy and boast about ur score.thats it nothing more to it !

but i do play crysis, COD4,world in conflict etc ...and performance in those games matter more for a gamer ...is it not ?

[mukherjee]

its always wise to buy from a local dealer,it really gives u satisfaction and if u run into some problem,u can go and get it repaired/replaced on ur own and fast.

and i always feel comfortable with what we say - "ek hath de ek hath le"

and tirupati are good distributors they should be able to get u palit hd 4850 sonic. but perhaps lynx india is one of the best online shops in india.they have good response and reputation. so i guess it shouldn't be a problem doing bussiness with them and if u still feel unsure.i feel u can find many people here who have done bussiness with lynx before ..they will help u out!

will try dat out...do ya knw neone here whos has done business with lynx?



dude i don't play 3dmark !!! its synthetic benchmark ..u can watch its all eyecandy and boast about ur score.thats it nothing more to it !

but i do play crysis, COD4,world in conflict etc ...and performance in those games matter more for a gamer ...is it not ?

+1
and btw, 3dmark 06 is passe, and 9800gtx+ gets pwned by hd 4850 in 3dmark vantage :D
but then, as imgame2 says, i dont play 3dmark vantage ! 8)

[tkin]

its always wise to buy from a local dealer,it really gives u satisfaction and if u run into some problem,u can go and get it repaired/replaced on ur own and fast.

and i always feel comfortable with what we say - "ek hath de ek hath le"

and tirupati are good distributors they should be able to get u palit hd 4850 sonic. but perhaps lynx india is one of the best online shops in india.they have good response and reputation. so i guess it shouldn't be a problem doing bussiness with them and if u still feel unsure.i feel u can find many people here who have done bussiness with lynx before ..they will help u out!



dude i don't play 3dmark !!! its synthetic benchmark ..u can watch its all eyecandy and boast about ur score.thats it nothing more to it !

but i do play crysis, COD4,world in conflict etc ...and performance in those games matter more for a gamer ...is it not ?
That's exactly my point.Game FPS data counts.With all the hardware sites supporting either nVidia or ATI this gets kind of confusing.Also the HD4850 is out for some time while the 9800GTX+ just launched.Have to wait for a couple of weeks till nVidia releases the next whql driver,may be then more sites will do the 9800GTX+ review and we can make out a winner between HD4850 and 9800GTX+.
Looking forward for an oc'ed version from XFX(like XXX or Black edition) which would definitely boost performance.

[mukherjee]

That's exactly my point.Game FPS data counts.With all the hardware sites supporting either nVidia or ATI this gets kind of confusing.Also the HD4850 is out for some time while the 9800GTX+ just launched.Have to wait for a couple of weeks till nVidia releases the next whql driver,may be then more sites will do the 9800GTX+ review and we can make out a winner between HD4850 and 9800GTX+.
Looking forward for an oc'ed version from XFX(like XXX or Black edition) which would definitely boost performance.

chalo yaar, jus confess u r an nvidia fanboy.... going gaga over XFX xxx or black editions! :D
nothin wrong with that!

but i read somwhere(most probably anandetch or tomshardware) that d latest 177.83 forceware driver version has reduced performance compared to forceware 177.79! guess nvidia scuttled d ship trying to score a point with physx.....

now,beat that! :p

n btw, i hv PMed u! check dat out!

[tkin]

chalo yaar, jus confess u r an nvidia fanboy.... going gaga over XFX xxx or black editions! :D
nothin wrong with that!

but i read somwhere(most probably anandetch or tomshardware) that d latest 177.83 forceware driver version has reduced performance compared to forceware 177.79! guess nvidia scuttled d ship trying to score a point with physx.....

now,beat that! :p

n btw, i hv PMed u! check dat out!
I replied and I'm currently using X1900XT.I'v seen some of my friends boast about the XFX 8800GT XXX edition so I thought maybe XFX will come up with a XXX ed of 9800GTX+.

[imgame2]

But another predicament arises. Because PhysX slows down gameplay, and requires a fair amount of your GPU power to run, do you really want to enable the feature on lower-end models? It might all depend on the game and resolution, but if support is built in, it will cost you nothing to test it out and see if it works for you. Like gaming in general, the faster the GPU, the better it will be able to handle physics calculations without much of an FPS loss.

In my tests, the 9800 GTX suffered in losing 10FPS off of what the PPU could help with, but it might be that the GTX 260 or GTX 280 would portray differing results. There's no two-ways about it... those cards are powerful, so I have a feeling that running PhysX off of them would affect your overall FPS a lot less than what we saw here.


source - http://techgage.com/article/nvidias_physx_performance_and_status_report/4


PhysX uses a part of GPU to perform intense physics calculations,so there has to a compromise in frames per second.and 9800 gtx+ being an old architecture fails to use PhysX efficiently and powerfully as i said before.In future PhysX will play lead part in gaming with launch of multicore GPU's but for now its just in initial stages and can't handle both physics calculation and gaming performace at the same time,its just too much for 9800 gtx+ .....i seriously hope when i plan to buy my next card it should be nvidia's with efficient support for PhysX among other things.

[mukherjee]

source - http://techgage.com/article/nvidias_physx_performance_and_status_report/4


PhysX uses a part of GPU to perform intense physics calculations,so there has to a compromise in frames per second.and 9800 gtx+ being an old architecture fails to use PhysX efficiently and powerfully as i said before.In future PhysX will play lead part in gaming with launch of multicore GPU's but for now its just in initial stages and can't handle both physics calculation and gaming performace at the same time,its just too much for 9800 gtx+ .....i seriously hope when i plan to buy card it should be nvidia's with efficient support for PhysX among other things.

hv u decided yet wat will u b buying this time round?

[imgame2]

I replied and I'm currently using X1900XT.I'v seen some of my friends boast about the XFX 8800GT XXX edition so I thought maybe XFX will come up with a XXX ed of 9800GTX+.

8800 gt is by all means a great card and i wanted to buy it 3 months ago. but sadly same can't be said with 9800 gtx+.infact it was 8800 gt which started it all --"awesome performance @ affordable cost axiom".

but i guess ATI it seems to have worked it for their favor!

[sagargv]

physX is NOT about performance . .its about eye-candy. old cpu dependent games will have a boost in performance with geforce physX. .but modern gpu dependent games tend to loose performance with geforce physX.. if u're so much into physX , then why not go for a multi gpu solution ? , get a cheap 8400GS to do physX and use 9800GTX+ for graphics. . .maybe u can couple 8400 with a radeon 4850 too as this aint SLI or X-fire. . .not sure abt this. .

[imgame2]

hv u decided yet wat will u b buying this time round?

yes i m pretty sure it should be HD 4850 sonic for me..... unless hd 4870 breaks 14 k barrier and is available below 14 k.u c human mind is very greedy .....

[tkin]

8800 gt is by all means a great card and i wanted to buy it 3 months ago. but sadly same can't be said with 9800 gtx+.infact it was 8800 gt which started it all --"awesome performance @ affordable cost axiom".

but i guess ATI it seems to have worked it for their favor!
The 8800GT was the best some time ago.Even now two 8800GT SLI hold their own.But a single 8800GT is already outdated(though the G92 core is'nt).

[imgame2]

physX is NOT about performance . .its about eye-candy. old cpu dependent games will have a boost in performance with geforce physX. .but modern gpu dependent games tend to loose performance with geforce physX.. if u're so much into physX , then why not go for a multi gpu solution ? , get a cheap 8400GS to do physX and use 9800GTX+ for graphics. . .maybe u can couple 8400 with a radeon 4850 too as this aint SLI or X-fire. . .not sure abt this. .

i think its more about how realistic a game will look...
remember the 3 laws of motions we read in school,those were simple for idealized situations but many other things add up to them and other complex laws for motion of each particle in game,or laws for each object how they will behave in many number of forces around,this gives rise to massive calculation of complex mathematical models.
object will tend to behave in more realistic way as they do in real world.

as i understand it it will require a lot of computational power for physics computations and 260 gtx/280 gtx might handle them well but not the kinds of 8400 gs.

its like a part of GPU (may be 15% )is doing physics calculations and rest 85% is doing the graphics calculations.so it will tend to fall general game play performance.

[tkin]

i think its more about how realistic a game will look...
remember the 3 laws of motions we read in school,those were simple for idealized situations but many other things add up to them and other complex laws for motion of each particle in game,or laws for each object how they will behave in many number of forces around,this gives rise to massive calculation of complex mathematical models.
object will tend to behave in more realistic way as they do in real world.

as i understand it it will require a lot of computational power for physics computations and 260 gtx/280 gtx might handle them well but not the kinds of 8400 gs.

its like a part of GPU (may be 15% )is doing physics calculations and rest 85% is doing the graphics calculations.so it will tend to fall general game play performance.
What about AGEIA cards?(they gave birth to PhysX as much as I can remember and maybe some old cards are still available)

[imgame2]

What about AGEIA cards?(they gave birth to PhysX as much as I can remember and maybe some old cards are still available)

nVidia bought out Ageia this feb 2008,so even if old cards are available they are not worth it for about 10 k ...are they ? just for realistic physics ?

i would rather go for hd 4870 ...rather spending it on Ageia card!

[tkin]

nVidia bought out Ageia this feb 2008,so even if old cards are available they are not worth it for about 10 k ...are they ? just for realistic physics ?

i would rather go for hd 4870 ...rather spending it on Ageia card!
Youre right.
Look at this- http://www.wedvidpro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5515
Freakin me out already:D:D:D:D:D

[sagargv]

i think its more about how realistic a game will look...
remember the 3 laws of motions we read in school,those were simple for idealized situations but many other things add up to them and other complex laws for motion of each particle in game,or laws for each object how they will behave in many number of forces around,this gives rise to massive calculation of complex mathematical models.
object will tend to behave in more realistic way as they do in real world.

as i understand it it will require a lot of computational power for physics computations and 260 gtx/280 gtx might handle them well but not the kinds of 8400 gs.

its like a part of GPU (may be 15% )is doing physics calculations and rest 85% is doing the graphics calculations.so it will tend to fall general game play performance.

with a multi gpu configuration , one entire gpu will be dedicated for physX calculations . .if not 8400GS , a 8600GT is certainly enough to do physX calculations while the 9800GTX+ or gtx 280 do the graphics. . even by ur calculations, i think 8400GS will come upto atleast 10% performance as of gtx280. .so that should be enough for physX.

[lethalweaponforever]

How much does a 256 MB Nvidia 6200 and 8800 cost. can they run Virtua Tennis 3

[mukherjee]

@ imgame2 & tkin

i contacted rashi kolkata 2de....they dont have the new 9800GTX+ in stock,the older 9800GTX is avlabl @ 15k+tax :( :x

tirupati hv confirmed that they hv both gecube & palit hd4850 cards w/ 3yr warranty @11k+tax :|
they dont yet have the palit hd4850 sonic and neither can they bring on order :( :(

called up lynx store 2de,talkd wid amarveer......he confirmed the superb zotac rates.....and he too confirmed that the palit hd4850 sonic isnt yet available anywhere......too bad for imgame2!!!
another thing.....its possible to get warranty(& rma if reqd) on Zotac card from aditya branch in Kolkata,even if the card is bought from lynx....jus a call is needed..... :D

still, d 9800gtx+ is a very long card,10.5 inches long,i havent figured out hw wud i fit dat into my zeb antibiotic case evn if i buy it.....may just hv to go wid the hd4850!!! :)

[Psychosocial]

How much does a 256 MB Nvidia 6200 and 8800 cost. can they run Virtua Tennis 3


Dunno if 256MB 6200 is still in the shops but if its there then 1k max :).

As per the 256MB NVIDIA 8800, it will cost around 5-6k but its a waste. Better get a 512MB Zotac 9600GT for 6.5k ;)

[RexRazr]

can a 9600GT, paired with an E8400 give better FPS in Crysis than an 8800GT, paired with an X2 6400+?? (all in stock speeds)
i'm asking this altho it's true that in a game, the graphics card matters much more than the CPU...

[Psychosocial]

can a 9600GT, paired with an E8400 give better FPS in Crysis than an 8800GT, paired with an X2 6400+?? (all in stock speeds)
i'm asking this altho it's true that in a game, the graphics card matters much more than the CPU...

No, the 8800GT beats 9600GT to death in Crysis :D.

[RexRazr]

No, the 8800GT beats 9600GT to death in Crysis :D.
thx m8...thought so :D

[amrawtanshx]

can a 9600GT, paired with an E8400 give better FPS in Crysis than an 8800GT, paired with an X2 6400+?? (all in stock speeds)
i'm asking this altho it's true that in a game, the graphics card matters much more than the CPU...

8800GT is better,ofcouse.
Both the CPU and GPU matter. :!:

[desiibond]

^^ HD4850 will turn both 8800GT and 9600GT to dust whatever the processor it binds with :)

and guess what, it costs same as 8800GT. :)

[forever]

^^ HD4850 will turn both 8800GT and 9600GT to dust whatever the processor it binds with :)

and guess what, it costs same as 8800GT. :)

Quoted for truth :D

[Psychosocial]

^^ HD4850 will turn both 8800GT and 9600GT to dust whatever the processor it binds with :)

and guess what, it costs same as 8800GT. :)

He's comparing 9600GT with 8800GT and not the 9600GT with the HD4850. Everyone knows that the HD4850 is the current most selling card coz its VFM but that dosent mean we roam around advertising it coz we like AMD/ATi.

I like NVIDIA that dosent mean I will run around hailing its flagship card. :|

No offence intended :).

Quoted for truth :D

I never knew :rolleyes:

[amrawtanshx]

^^ HD4850 will turn both 8800GT and 9600GT to dust whatever the processor it binds with :)

and guess what, it costs same as 8800GT. :)

Turn 8800GT to dust.:rolleyes:
Aha ...
Hey both are high end cards ... I guess.:rolleyes:
And @ that eye candy will the difference be that obvious ??

[Psychosocial]

Turn 8800GT to dust.:rolleyes:
Aha ...
Hey both are high end cards ... I guess.:rolleyes:
And @ that eye candy will the difference be that obvious ??

Exactly. Even though ATi HD4850 is more powerful then 8800GT, it still cant run Crysis at max. It still pees against it. Still some models run hot. And coming to the price, its just a marketing strategy and because of ATi's shift of the manufacturing die. Soon NVIDIA will follow. NVIDIA ruled the graphics card market for a long time and is taking a small tea break :D. Soon it will be back. Time will surely bring more goodies.

[desiibond]

^^ Hmm. Let me be clear. I supported nVidia GPU's when they ruled the world and now I support ATI GPU coz now it's their time.

After reading your posts above and in other threads, I think it is you that are shouting nvidia nvidia when entire world knows that ATI is having performance advantage.

And yes, people do look for the best bang for the buck and that is exactly why I recommend HD4850.

And btw, it beats 8800GT in Crysis too. You say that some models run hot, I say unlock the fan speed lock that is set to 30%. the new 4xxx cards are very good overclockers once you unlock the fan.

I support the best in the market. Supported nVidia 8800GT though I have an ATI card in my rig. BTW, I still support nVidia if the budet is less than 7k coz ATI is not yet competitive in that segment and starting at 8k, till 30k, it's ATI that is now dictating terms.

If you think that ATI got the advantage just by shriking die, please learn the facts. there has been a radical change in teh architecture that brought in this huge performance gain. Read the article in this month's magazine.

PS: I know you are nVidia fanboy and are unable to accept the truth :)

[NIGHTMARE]

Nvidia posted a quarterly loss of $120 million this quarter.it is the first in many many years that nvidia ha posted a quarterly loss. Thanks 4800.Hurray

Source (http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=14953)

[desiibond]

It's not just the 4800. It's the problem with few nVidia chipsets that resulted in decline of nvidia's share value.

anyways, I still do hope that nVidia recover and be competitive.

Now that Intel is getting ready with Larrabee and AMD getting ready with Fusion, nVidia needs a miracle to save itself.

PS: Hunter becomes hunted :)

[Psychosocial]

^^ Hmm. Let me be clear. I supported nVidia GPU's when they ruled the world and now I support ATI GPU coz now it's their time.

After reading your posts above and in other threads, I think it is you that are shouting nvidia nvidia when entire world knows that ATI is having performance advantage.

And yes, people do look for the best bang for the buck and that is exactly why I recommend HD4850.

And btw, it beats 8800GT in Crysis too. You say that some models run hot, I say unlock the fan speed lock that is set to 30%. the new 4xxx cards are very good overclockers once you unlock the fan.

I support the best in the market. Supported nVidia 8800GT though I have an ATI card in my rig. BTW, I still support nVidia if the budet is less than 7k coz ATI is not yet competitive in that segment and starting at 8k, till 30k, it's ATI that is now dictating terms.

If you think that ATI got the advantage just by shriking die, please learn the facts. there has been a radical change in teh architecture that brought in this huge performance gain. Read the article in this month's magazine.

PS: I know you are nVidia fanboy and are unable to accept the truth :)

Ya I am an NVIDIA fanboi. Who got a problem with that ?

I R ILLITRATE thats why i dunno anything, right ?

Thanks :)

PS :- Hunter taking rest, getting ready to jump every other ****ing prey's white ass. :D

[desiibond]

^^ feeling uneasy due to nvidia's bad days??

[Psychosocial]

^^ feeling uneasy due to nvidia's bad days??

Ya sure. I am loyal to them and do feel bad. Let them get back up and jump ATi's miserable ass.

NVIDIA :).

Who the **** cares abt me anywyz ? I am a NVIDIA fanboi and will always be.

Not even the ****ing PM can change this. :D

[amrawtanshx]

8800 GT was released way back.
And ATIHD 4850 is giving it a tuff competition.Why be so happy in beating an old card now.

[Psychosocial]

8800 GT was released way back.
And ATIHD 4850 is giving it a tuff competition.Why be so happy in beating an old card now.

CORRECT.

Now lets stop the ****ing fight.

Peace.

[desiibond]

8800 GT was released way back.
And ATIHD 4850 is giving it a tuff competition.Why be so happy in beating an old card now.

how about this:

1) HD4850 beats every nvidia card that costs upto 12k.
2) Hd4870 beats every nvidia card that costs upto 20k
3) HD4870 X2 beats every nvidia card on the market and also every SLI setup that can be done using nvidia cards, even the GTX 280.

now, you know the reason for being happy:)

I am more happy because of the competition and not just because ATI took the crown back from nVidia :)

This means better cards from nvidia in the future and lower prices :)

advantage consumers :)

and btw, watch out for Larrabee!!!

[Psychosocial]

^Ya. Intel's old habbit of poking nose into everything. I think it will be good. Read the article "This Means War" in Digit. Nice architecture by Intel.

[desiibond]

Yep. I sincerely hope that Intel would fail at this.

Don't want to see anything other than ATI and nVidia in GPU market.

[RexRazr]

hmm...i didn't open this page since i made the last post here and seems a small war was gonna start regarding that (at least a debate) :cool:
well...what i can say is (just to be clear)...i never mentions anything about ATI in my post
i just wanted some general infos and i think i was quite specific on the question... :rolleyes:
anyway...i got what i wanted and closed the chapter...ATI never came into play
and i'm not biased over some darn company...i just hope for the best...it's their fight...not ours

PS: after everything it's true that as it doesn't take much time to fall...it doesn't take much time to rise again

[amrawtanshx]

Lets see what Larrabee has to offer.:)
But it would be damn intricate for it to match nVidia & ATI standards.


PS: after everything it's true that as it doesn't take much time to fall...it doesn't take much time to rise again

Very true.:)

[squid]

Hi, will Radeon 3850 512 MB works in hybrid crossfire mode with the Gigabyte MA78GPM-Ds2h motherboard. and is there any other better PCIE 2.0 card below Rs.8000 for this motherboard.
thanks

[Psychosocial]

^^You can get a Zotac 9600GT 512MB for 6.5-7k which is better then this.

[squid]

^^You can get a Zotac 9600GT 512MB for 6.5-7k which is better then this.

Will this card work in hybrid crossfire mode with motherboard's IGP
thanks

[KaranTh85]

Will this card work in hybrid crossfire mode with motherboard's IGP
thanks

Nope...nvidia cards r meant 4 SLI setup not crossFire :D

[imgame2]

^Ya. Intel's old habbit of poking nose into everything. I think it will be good. Read the article "This Means War" in Digit. Nice architecture by Intel.

an architecture is good for consumer only if it performs good,there are many many example throughout the history of technology...when a technology was good but failed to make an impact cos it was inefficient,expensive and many other reasons.

right now one technology i can remember is of RDRAM which showed a lot of promise in SDRAM age and vanished without a trace....this is just one of the many many example which shows that architecture might look good on paper ....but performance is the real story of it all.

hence,let larrabee come and then we can say after its performance if its architecture is worth or not? intel had many architecture failure to its credit too!!

but its good for consumers they get the best of these new designs.

with a multi gpu configuration , one entire gpu will be dedicated for physX calculations . .if not 8400GS , a 8600GT is certainly enough to do physX calculations while the 9800GTX+ or gtx 280 do the graphics. . even by ur calculations, i think 8400GS will come upto atleast 10% performance as of gtx280. .so that should be enough for physX.

i am answering this late cos i was not sure about the working of SLI and if it allows different GPU's. as i was able to find out the SLI only allow the same GPU's to work in SLI mode

SLI-Ready Graphics Card: This should be fairly obvious - if you don't have an SLI-ready video card, you can't run SLI! In order to enable SLI, the two video cards must be of the same family and model. For example, two 8800 GTXs could run in SLI while an 8800 GTX and an 8800 GTS could not because there are numerous discrepancies between them that could not be compensated for despite the fact they are closely related. Unlike the days where SLI had just been brought back from the dead, the two cards do not have to be from the same manufacturer, have the same BIOS, be the same speed or even have the same amount of VRAM.

source - http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=8316

so u will have to put two 9800GTX+ or 8800's in SLI if u want to do anything with PhysX!and not a 9800GTX+ and 8600 gs

[sagargv]

^^ i'm not talking about SLI .. for a multi gpu config , u need two pcie slots , thats all .. no need for a SLI or X-fire enabled mobo ( although this will also work ). .

definitely u can use 8400GS and 9800GTX+ as multi gpus .. they wont work under SLI. thats all. the two gpu's wont do AFR. . only one renders the graphics and other idles. . here i'm suggesting that the idle gpu be used for physX. .

[tkin]

@ imgame2 & tkin

i contacted rashi kolkata 2de....they dont have the new 9800GTX+ in stock,the older 9800GTX is avlabl @ 15k+tax :( :x

tirupati hv confirmed that they hv both gecube & palit hd4850 cards w/ 3yr warranty @11k+tax :|
they dont yet have the palit hd4850 sonic and neither can they bring on order :( :(

called up lynx store 2de,talkd wid amarveer......he confirmed the superb zotac rates.....and he too confirmed that the palit hd4850 sonic isnt yet available anywhere......too bad for imgame2!!!
another thing.....its possible to get warranty(& rma if reqd) on Zotac card from aditya branch in Kolkata,even if the card is bought from lynx....jus a call is needed..... :D

still, d 9800gtx+ is a very long card,10.5 inches long,i havent figured out hw wud i fit dat into my zeb antibiotic case evn if i buy it.....may just hv to go wid the hd4850!!! :)
Thanks for doing that, much appreciated.Sorry for not responding right away.
May be off topic, but this guy posting videos in Youtube owns the best gaming hardwares that money can buy right now- http://in.youtube.com/user/maxishine
You can actually view the performances of the best ATI(HD4870x2):D and nVidia(9800gx2 x 2-Quad SLI):D cards here.Also features other hardwares too.

[imgame2]

@ imgame2 & tkin

i contacted rashi kolkata 2de....they dont have the new 9800GTX+ in stock,the older 9800GTX is avlabl @ 15k+tax :( :x

tirupati hv confirmed that they hv both gecube & palit hd4850 cards w/ 3yr warranty @11k+tax :|
they dont yet have the palit hd4850 sonic and neither can they bring on order :( :(

called up lynx store 2de,talkd wid amarveer......he confirmed the superb zotac rates.....and he too confirmed that the palit hd4850 sonic isnt yet available anywhere......too bad for imgame2!!!
another thing.....its possible to get warranty(& rma if reqd) on Zotac card from aditya branch in Kolkata,even if the card is bought from lynx....jus a call is needed..... :D

still, d 9800gtx+ is a very long card,10.5 inches long,i havent figured out hw wud i fit dat into my zeb antibiotic case evn if i buy it.....may just hv to go wid the hd4850!!! :)

ya its sad that sonic is not available ...but looks like prices are coming down ....sapphire is available for 10.7 (including taxes and shipping).but i guess thats the same price i would get in my place at this point of time now.

i mailed tirupati and they told me they don't have zotac but they do have evga 9800gtx+ but when i asked for rates they mailed me back.

i don't have space constraint for me like u ...but will still go for hd4850 beacuse 9800gtx+ is not available and if it is its @ insane prices 15k +taxes.

^^ i'm not talking about SLI .. for a multi gpu config , u need two pcie slots , thats all .. no need for a SLI or X-fire enabled mobo ( although this will also work ). .

definitely u can use 8400GS and 9800GTX+ as multi gpus .. they wont work under SLI. thats all. the two gpu's wont do AFR. . only one renders the graphics and other idles. . here i'm suggesting that the idle gpu be used for physX. .

are u sure that could be configured that way ? cos output is only one and then there has to driver support which lets the other GPU as simply for physX. .....but even then i don't think its worth having a board with two pcie slots,this way ?use it either for crossfire or SLI whatever it supports

[sagargv]

^^ http://www.guru3d.com/article/physx-by-nvidia-review/3

[tkin]

It's not just the 4800. It's the problem with few nVidia chipsets that resulted in decline of nvidia's share value.

anyways, I still do hope that nVidia recover and be competitive.

Now that Intel is getting ready with Larrabee and AMD getting ready with Fusion, nVidia needs a miracle to save itself.

PS: Hunter becomes hunted :)
If nVidia does'nt recover soon ATI will have the market to it's own and the prices of ATI products will rise again and the company will not invest time persuing new features related to gaming.It's the competition that drives the market.Long live ATI-nVidia war(Hope Intel joins soon)
Rs 10,000/- GTX280 anyone?:D

[Psychosocial]

Will this card work in hybrid crossfire mode with motherboard's IGP
thanks

Crossfire is AMD/ATi technology. So, NO :|

[amrawtanshx]

Long live ATI-nVidia war(Hope Intel joins soon)
Rs 10,000/- GTX280 anyone?:D

It will benefit consumers.:D

[tkin]

I'm thinking of getting either the Cooler Master Ammo 533 or the Centurian 534+ cabinet.If anyone had ever used one of these could you confirm whether the 10.5 inch long 9800gtx/gtx+ will fit in this case.
Also, can anyone suggest a cabinet that could fit the card(~3,500/- and P.S.U not needed).
P.S-I have made up my mind about buying this card.So please don't suggest ATI HD4870(I know it's more powerfull but also costs more).

[imgame2]

^^ http://www.guru3d.com/article/physx-by-nvidia-review/3
thanks for the link...
and that should work ...but still that config is not efficient just going for PhysX.i would prefer two same cards running in SLI,i guess two 9800gtx+ would do better even on PhysX than above config......but still this is not for me ....as frankly physics calculation will get better in a year or so and more efficient than they are now ...perhaps a dual core where one works for graphics computation and other for physics computation.

[The Conqueror]

So which is the high end graphics card for now? 280 GTX ? what happened to 9800GTX?

[imgame2]

I'm thinking of getting either the Cooler Master Ammo 533 or the Centurian 534+ cabinet.If anyone had ever used one of these could you confirm whether the 10.5 inch long 9800gtx/gtx+ will fit in this case.
Also, can anyone suggest a cabinet that could fit the card(~3,500/- and P.S.U not needed).
P.S-I have made up my mind about buying this card.So please don't suggest ATI HD4870(I know it's more powerfull but also costs more).

can't compare these two cards dude !

[tkin]

thanks for the link...
and that should work ...but still that config is not efficient just going for PhysX.i would prefer two same cards running in SLI,i guess two 9800gtx+ would do better even on PhysX than above config......but still this is not for me ....as frankly physics calculation will get better in a year or so and more efficient than they are now ...perhaps a dual core where one works for graphics computation and other for physics computation.
How about 9800GX2 ?

[imgame2]

How about 9800GX2 ?

i don't know if u can assign different computational load to two different cores on driver level...but if u can it will be interesting to see what result comes out.which i myself have no idea if thats possible ...

[Psychosocial]

So which is the high end graphics card for now? 280 GTX ? what happened to 9800GTX?

9800GTX is nearly out. 9800GTX+ has taken its place. The current best performer from NVIDIA is GTX280 and the over-all best performer is ATi HD4870x2 :D.

http://s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/85large.png

[amrawtanshx]

^^
Correct.
http://s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/83.png

[mukherjee]

I'm thinking of getting either the Cooler Master Ammo 533 or the Centurian 534+ cabinet.If anyone had ever used one of these could you confirm whether the 10.5 inch long 9800gtx/gtx+ will fit in this case.
Also, can anyone suggest a cabinet that could fit the card(~3,500/- and P.S.U not needed).
P.S-I have made up my mind about buying this card.So please don't suggest ATI HD4870(I know it's more powerfull but also costs more).

wherefrom are u fetting the 9800gtx+ from?and at what price?
u cn pm me if reqd,i m interested now as i hav figured out that i can fit the 9800gtx+ in my cabby! :D
plz rep soon

[W i d e S c r e e N]

Fellow Digitians,

my 7800GT has died...

It has been sent for replacement to Rashi Peripherals, Bombay.

As a replacement they are plannin to provide me with 8600GT or 8800GS 384MB fatal1ty.

I paid around 25,000 for XFX GeForce 7800GT 256MB EXTREME EDITION

Please advice as 7800GT is not available they should atlest give me a 8800GT if not 9800GTX

[mukherjee]

Fellow Digitians,

my 7800GT has died...

It has been sent for replacement to Rashi Peripherals, Bombay.

As a replacement they are plannin to provide me with 8600GT or 8800GS 384MB fatal1ty.

I paid around 25,000 for XFX GeForce 7800GT 256MB EXTREME EDITION

Please advice as 7800GT is not available they should atlest give me a 8800GT if not 9800GTX

8800gt as the minimum bto..or even an 9600gt

[amrawtanshx]

Fellow Digitians,

my 7800GT has died...

It has been sent for replacement to Rashi Peripherals, Bombay.

As a replacement they are plannin to provide me with 8600GT or 8800GS 384MB fatal1ty.

I paid around 25,000 for XFX GeForce 7800GT 256MB EXTREME EDITION

Please advice as 7800GT is not available they should atlest give me a 8800GT if not 9800GTX

Get the 8800GS then.
If u are adamant on getting 8800GT,pressurise people @ Rashi to give u that.
But still it would be difficult.
Cuz the price of same 7800GT is pretty low now ...

[W i d e S c r e e N]

I didnt know that 7800 is till available as "Rashi Periperals" is the official distributor for XFX in India, if they had that in stock....

I will tryfor 8800GT, hopefully the newer should atlest work till the warranty is over (6or9months), then it's goodbye nVIDIA

what FPS should GRID be @ 1920x1200?
without anti aliasing,
using

1GB RAM 4200+ 7200rpm HDD, XP

with 8800GT 512
with 8800GS 384 ?

[Psychosocial]

8800GT 512MB -- 35-40FPS
8800GS 384MB -- 25-30FPS or less.

[MetalheadGautham]

Fellow Digitians,

my 7800GT has died...

It has been sent for replacement to Rashi Peripherals, Bombay.

As a replacement they are plannin to provide me with 8600GT or 8800GS 384MB fatal1ty.

I paid around 25,000 for XFX GeForce 7800GT 256MB EXTREME EDITION

Please advice as 7800GT is not available they should atlest give me a 8800GT if not 9800GTX
unforunately for you, your 7800GT 256mb extreme edition is as weak as or slightly weaker than 8600GT.
8800GS would kill it.

so you have nothing to loose :D

go ask for 9800GTX. you may atleast get 8800gt/gs. ;)

[W i d e S c r e e N]

i expected a bit more FPS outta GT.:p

IF i ask for GTX they would think im joking :x

what's more important for gaming at 1920x1200?
Is it the gpu or gddr3 or both,
caused i asked for 8800gt 256mb instead of 8800gs 384mb

[MetalheadGautham]

what's more important for gaming at 1920x1200?
Is it the gpu or gddr3 or both,
caused i asked for 8800gt 256mb instead of 8800gs 384mb
at that resolution, its RECOMMENDED that you get 512MB. Why don't you ask for 9600GT ?

[tkin]

at that resolution, its RECOMMENDED that you get 512MB. Why don't you ask for 9600GT ?
Yeah, that's right. At higher resolutions the frame buffer(Memory) comes into play. That's why the 8800Ultra can still sometimes outperform the 9800GTX/GTX+ at really high resolutions(like 1920x1200/2560x1600)

[Psychosocial]

at that resolution, its RECOMMENDED that you get 512MB. Why don't you ask for 9600GT ?

True!! Get atleast 512MB. If they refuse to give you the 9600GT then the newly launched 9500GT also offers 512MB GDDR3 version and are a great low-med level performer. But opt. for 9600GT first. 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 will outperform both the 9600Gt and the 9500GT. Now its upto you.

[tkin]

True!! Get atleast 512MB. If they refuse to give you the 9600GT then the newly launched 9500GT also offers 512MB GDDR3 version and are a great low-med level performer. But opt. for 9600GT first. 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 will outperform both the 9600Gt and the 9500GT. Now its upto you.
8800GT(512MB) replacement for 7800GT?????
Do you honestly think that Rashi would do that?

[amrawtanshx]

8800GT(512MB) replacement for 7800GT?????
Do you honestly think that Rashi would do that?

I dont think so ..
Even though he bought 7800GT for 25k ... They would still be adamant on giving him a 8600GT ...
Which I think is wrong. He should get atleast 9600GT or above.

8800GT 512MB GDDR3 will outperform both the 9600Gt and the 9500GT. Now its upto you.

And by a large margin.

[Psychosocial]

8800GT(512MB) replacement for 7800GT?????
Do you honestly think that Rashi would do that?

He can atleast get a 9600GT. 9500GT is the least he should settle for. 86xx and 85xx series quite old now.

[tkin]

He can atleast get a 9600GT. 9500GT is the least he should settle for. 86xx and 85xx series quite old now.
You are right, but I was talking about 8800GT.
8800GT is waaaaaay better than 9600GT/9500GT

[amrawtanshx]

^^
I think I have mentioned this :)

[tkin]

^^
I think I have mentioned this :)
Sorry, missed it.:(

[W i d e S c r e e N]

thank you fellow members all for the valuable inputs.

I had "discussion" with me retailer. I gotta say, sticking to one dealer for your computing needs pays off with good dividends. He's defended my position and now it seems the talks are on for 8800GT 512.

Let's hope they do this

nvidia, is this the way it's meant to be played? :x

[amrawtanshx]

^^
That would be nice if u get 8800GT 512MB.http://s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/20.png

[Psychosocial]

yus, 8800GT is nice :).

BTw, f you can get the card that I'm using then it will be very good. It pwns all cards :Dhttp://s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj44/visio159/Unismilies/5.png

[W i d e S c r e e N]

KPower Mania,
Riva TNT 16MB gfx?

It's upgrade was my first card! RIVA TNT2 M64 32MB or something it played NFS3 so smoothly ;-)

[Psychosocial]

KPower Mania,
Riva TNT 16MB gfx?

It's upgrade was my first card! RIVA TNT2 M64 32MB or something it played NFS3 so smoothly ;-)


Ha! I beat you, mine runs Crysis(see my sig). :D

[amrawtanshx]

^^
Cool :D

[chetanappu007]

I have a branded HP system.It has a 400watt power supply.I am planning to buy a new ATI 4850 graphic card.IS the power supply i have enough for it or should i buy a new power supply?
please someone reply.

[amrawtanshx]

^^
Yes its fine.It would be a Bestec one.
But to be on the safer side ... Get a 500W or above one.

[Psychosocial]

^^
Yes its fine.It would be a Bestec one.
But to be on the safer side ... Get a 500W or above one.

zOMG :shock: 400W for a HD4850:confused: ??

Get a 500W above one. If your CPU has a C2D E6xx or higher than you will have to get a new PSU considering that HD4850 nearly consumes 300W at peak. :|

Look at the CoolerMaster CM500W (CM-500-PCAR)

[uchiha_madara]

@chetanappu:I believe that your PSU won't just have enough connector to connect your HD 4850 which it surely won't be able to supply all the juice anyway.
A PSU of 450W is minimum recommendation by ATi\AMD anyway.Try to get one of high quality although it may cost a bit more you surely wouldn't want to take risk with all your h\w and precious data.
Some links on power consumption of HD 4850
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/ati-4800-series-review.ars/7
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-4850-and-4870-review-force3d/4

@KPower Mania::Man you have got one mindblowing,hellfreezing,jawdropping game chewing monster of a computer :D.
If you have the time please post CRYSIS gameplay pics at 1080p.

[Shloeb]

Kpower Mania when did u get that beast??? Can i have some pics for evidence?? U r just in 8th class. I don't think ur parents would buy u that pc. Hehe. :D Give me the proof!!!! :evil:

[Psychosocial]

Kpower Mania when did u get that beast??? Can i have some pics for evidence?? U r just in 8th class. I don't think ur parents would buy u that pc. Hehe. :D Give me the proof!!!! :evil:

:lol: guys ,cant you understand jokes ? Read the whole sig. Read the last part :d I am just joking around.

[Sandeepfrompune]

I had asked for EVGA 8800GT KnockOut at itwares but they said its out of stock.
I asked when it will come - they said it may not come now.. it depends on dist.rs
so they suggestde me MSI 880GT OC version.

Both are 512 mb ddr3 . so does that MSI good one? and BTW which one better in KO and SC? knockOut is more overclocked than Superclocked ?
EVGA 8800GT SC is there but its high priced...

[uchiha_madara]

Man I knew I should have checked that dangerous dave game and seen your sig for what it was,you got me nice and clear:D.
Note to self: don't take everything that is written for truth:D.
Any way it would be nice to have rig like that.

[Psychosocial]

I had asked for EVGA 8800GT KnockOut at itwares but they said its out of stock.
I asked when it will come - they said it may not come now.. it depends on dist.rs
so they suggestde me MSI 880GT OC version.

Both are 512 mb ddr3 . so does that MSI good one? and BTW which one better in KO and SC? knockOut is more overclocked than Superclocked ?
EVGA 8800GT SC is there but its high priced...

None is better than other. And why are you buying 8800GT anyways ?:p The GeCube HD4850 costs a 200-300 bucks less than it and out-performs it by 30%. Get that.

GeCube HD4850 Official Site -->> http://www.gecube.com/press-release-detail.php?id=383258

Man I knew I should have checked that dangerous dave game and seen your sig for what it was,you got me nice and clear:D.
Note to self: don't take everything that is written for truth:D.
Any way it would be nice to have rig like that.

Well, what I did was for plain humour. I have seen people (on other forums) lying about their wealth via their sigs. Sometimes someone writes 3x8800GT :lol: How the hell do you Tri-SLi a 8800GT ? But I am not concerned about the liers, I just did it for plain fun.

[NIGHTMARE]

AMD is always value for money and give profit to customer not like Intel selling garbage by giving commission to dealer

[Psychosocial]

AMD is always value for money and give profit to customer not like Intel selling garbage by giving commission to dealer

:shock:

[desiibond]

^^ It's true man. Full credit to AMD for making ultra fast processors available for dead cheap prices. Who would've though that a dual core processor will be avialable for 2k??

It's only because AMD Intel is keeping the prices low and doing lot of reasearch and working hard to satisfy customer.

[Psychosocial]

^^ It's true man. Full credit to AMD for making ultra fast processors available for dead cheap prices. Who would've though that a dual core processor will be avialable for 2k??

It's only because AMD Intel is keeping the prices low and doing lot of reasearch and working hard to satisfy customer.

hmm.... does that mean he has to call Intel 'garbage'. Even today if AMD competes with Intel than Intel will beat the cr@p outta AMD :|. I can understand that he prefers AMD or by-chance is an AMD fan but that dosent mean he goes around dissing it. Even though I hate ATi (you know it:D) ,still i dont go around dissing it :).

[desiibond]

^^ I supported everything in that post except that garbage thing :)

I still have lot of respect for Intel. After all, they were the inventors of microprocessors.

[volmetius]

hi ppl... pls help... my moniter is not powering up.... iam using asus 590sli... I evev replaced my nvedia 7600GT card... but its in vain....it doesnt seem to be ani problem wid drivers... what can it be?? pls help..

[keith_j_snyder2]

Can't believe he called INTEL garbage!
If intel didn't introduced the "CORE" architecture then we will still be buying those extremely overpriced dual core processors.
I still remember that X2 4800+ was selling for $1004!

Thanks to INTEL that it brings the Quad Core to the cheaper price than what i gave for my 3200+!!!

[amrawtanshx]

Review about ATI HD 4870 X2
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6196419/index.html?tag=topslot;img;3

Call of Duty 4 scales well when you throw additional 4870 GPUs at it, but the results indicate that the GeForce GTX 280 offers a better cost per frame value. Crysis also remains an Nvidia stronghold. Frame rates didn't budge when we tried adding more Radeon HD 4870 GPUs in our Harbor Assault benchmarking, while doubling up on GTX 280 cards yielded immediate frame rate increases. The Radeon HD 4870 cards beat the GeForce GTX 280 in Team Fortress 2, but frame rates in the CPU-limited game didn't increase as we added more GPUs. A single Radeon HD 4870 card will be enough to give you the GDDR5 benefits in TF2.

[topgear]

ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 Graphics Card Preview + Review :D
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/745/1/

[acewin]

guys I need verdict on big 7600gs overclocked version 256ddr2 vs any 512MB DDR2 8400GS(POV/Palit). In bazaar section I see 7600 is on sale, the person who is selling me says this gfx card is better than 8400GS

frankly I too accept it was due to AMD that intel started giving better things and lowering price, but even then intel beats AMD.

AMD has done great job to keep this proccy war going on. Unlike apple who had better proccy than intel and amd but never made them mainstream sticking to their mac products, never forcing intel to do anything.

Check this thread where the hardware is posted for sale, SELLING OLD p4 system (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96448)

[sagargv]

7600GS is better than 8400GS anyday ..but u cant watch HD movies with 7600 .. but u can using a 8400. .assuming u have a weak cpu ofcourse.. but for either , dont pay more than 1.5k ..

[acewin]

thanks sagargv, I am trying to buy the CPU+mobo in that thread. so as to have a PC @home, do not wanna go for big deal because if I spent alot it would be bad as I have a PC in my home town already.

[Psychosocial]

^True.

And 7600GS is better.

[imgame2]

guys i need help this time ..i will be buying HD4850 by next week end.

i don't know from local vendor or online ...cos i have checked prices from one local vendor...but they are costing 11.5 k for gecube version ...though giving 3 years warranty if i look through i might get it around 10.6k to 10.8k ..but i m not sure ..

i have two questions.

1.should i buy it online if i don't get cheap deal locally ??
2.which brand to buy ?
a.Gecube - 10.7k @itwares
b.Palit - 10.5k @itwares
c.sapphire- 10.5 k@lynx

PS- Prices are the lowest i could fine including VAT and shipping.

i m looking for good service,warranty, and even though i have heard all of them are reference design ..still like to know about cooler which has a better cooler.

also i will be buying CoolerMaster 600W for this ...

if u have any idea,comment on this ...its all appreciated.

[acewin]

good going.
Performance wise rating them
Sapphire>Palit>Gecube
meaning sapphire is better than palit or gecube.

CM 600W is 3.1K
check if the local vendor can give you sapphire.

I have started looking reviews and all for GPU now so, I can decide but I really do not know about any old GPUs

[imgame2]

good going.
Performance wise rating them
Sapphire>Palit>Gecube
meaning sapphire is better than palit or gecube.

CM 600W is 3.1K
check if the local vendor can give you sapphire.

I have started looking reviews and all for GPU now so, I can decide but I really do not know about any old GPUs

oh i thought gecube was better brand ..i will ask local vendor if i can get a sapphire...if i don't get it locally .....then palit is better choice of the two ?? means between gecube and palit ??

also i don't think HD4850 is an old GPU ..is it ??

[Psychosocial]

HD4850 is a recently launched GPU :lol:

Palit is better than GeCube and genrally more VFM (not here though).

[mukherjee]

guys i need help this time ..i will be buying HD4850 by next week end.

i don't know from local vendor or online ...cos i have checked prices from one local vendor...but they are costing 11.5 k for gecube version ...though giving 3 years warranty if i look through i might get it around 10.6k to 10.8k ..but i m not sure ..

i have two questions.

1.should i buy it online if i don't get cheap deal locally ??
2.which brand to buy ?
a.Gecube - 10.7k @itwares
b.Palit - 10.5k @itwares
c.sapphire- 10.5 k@lynx

PS- Prices are the lowest i could fine including VAT and shipping.

i m looking for good service,warranty, and even though i have heard all of them are reference design ..still like to know about cooler which has a better cooler.

also i will be buying CoolerMaster 600W for this ...

if u have any idea,comment on this ...its all appreciated.

+1.....saphhire is not avlabl in kolkata,10.5k@lynx.....gecube n palit r avlabl wid tirupati @11.5k

good going.
Performance wise rating them
Sapphire>Palit>Gecube
meaning sapphire is better than palit or gecube.

CM 600W is 3.1K
check if the local vendor can give you sapphire.

I have started looking reviews and all for GPU now so, I can decide but I really do not know about any old GPUs

should i go wid saphhire?is online purchase better?

oh i thought gecube was better brand ..i will ask local vendor if i can get a sapphire...if i don't get it locally .....then palit is better choice of the two ?? means between gecube and palit ??

also i don't think HD4850 is an old GPU ..is it ??

hmmm...same ques guys...gecube n palit avlabl locally at higher rate....sapphire tho i hv seen in the reviews is the better og amd s partners!(cant give links bro! :( )

[imgame2]

HD4850 is a recently launched GPU :lol:

Palit is better than GeCube and genrally more VFM (not here though).

i know dude.......don't u know how many times we crossed paths about HD4850 and 9800GTX+ i just did not get what acewin meant by ---"I have started looking reviews and all for GPU now so, I can decide but I really do not know about any old GPUs "

+1.....saphhire is not avlabl in kolkata,10.5k@lynx.....gecube n palit r avlabl wid tirupati @11.5k



should i go wid saphhire?is online purchase better?



hmmm...same ques guys...gecube n palit avlabl locally at higher rate....sapphire tho i hv seen in the reviews is the better og amd s partners!(cant give links bro! :( )

oh i thought u were going with 9800 gtx+ ....at my place is costing 14 k +taxes ..and also is available rarely ....

[acewin]

@ingame2, I meant that my knowledge of older GPUs is nill.
I never checked GPU, just sticked to onboard GPU.
But, I have started reviews for GPUs also now.

[imgame2]

@ingame2, I meant that my knowledge of older GPUs is nill.
I never checked GPU, just sticked to onboard GPU.
But, I have started reviews for GPUs also now.

oh its fine ..its never late to make a start ....everyone does it somewhere down the line ...so u found ...sapphire was a better brand than gecube and palit ..i was more inclined towards gecube ....but will have to think again

[tkin]

i know dude.......don't u know how many times we crossed paths about HD4850 and 9800GTX+ i just did not get what acewin meant by ---"I have started looking reviews and all for GPU now so, I can decide but I really do not know about any old GPUs "



oh i thought u were going with 9800 gtx+ ....at my place is costing 14 k +taxes ..and also is available rarely ....
Where? Where? :shock::shock:
Place Please and dealer name.

[imgame2]

Where? Where? :shock::shock:
Place Please and dealer name.

in chennai a dealer called mahavir computers ...i called him up once to ask about the price of hd4850 and 9800 gtx+ ...he said he would call me back ...and he did after two days and said he has xpertvision 9800 gtx+ available for 14k + taxes ....i wasn't going for it anyway ...specialy when its available for 11.8k @ lynx ...

by the way the card he was talking about is this ...

http://www.xpertvision.com/main/vgapro.php?id=170

[tkin]

in chennai a dealer called mahavir computers ...i called him up once to ask about the price of hd4850 and 9800 gtx+ ...he said he would call me back ...and he did after two days and said he has xpertvision 9800 gtx+ available for 14k + taxes ....i wasn't going for it anyway ...specialy when its available for 11.8k @ lynx ...

by the way the card he was talking about is this ...

http://www.xpertvision.com/main/vgapro.php?id=170
Thanks.
And what about this new company?
Damn these new 3rd party vendors popping out of nowhere(Zotac,Xpertvision..........).Makes hard to decide.

[topgear]

9800GT Reviews
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1520/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1523/palit_geforce_9800_gt_sonic_512mb/index.html

[Psychosocial]

^^lol nowhere.

If you are going for NVIDIA, then MSI/XFX/ASUS/Palit and Zotac are the best 3rd party vendors. Not to forget eVGA.

There are many more like POV/BIG/BFG, etc but they are MOSTLY cr@p.

[sagargv]

BFG is certainly not crap.. .

[imgame2]

^^lol nowhere.

If you are going for NVIDIA, then MSI/XFX/ASUS/Palit and Zotac are the best 3rd party vendors. Not to forget eVGA.

There are many more like POV/BIG/BFG, etc but they are MOSTLY cr@p.

dude BFG is the best card u can get for any nvidia chip ..life time warranty with best pre-tweaked card one can ever get from nvidia...if one has to buy nvidia ...u won't get anything better than BFG ..thats for sure.

[forever]

Palit is better than GeCube

And how did you come by this conclusion? :confused:


There are many more like POV/BIG/BFG, etc but they are MOSTLY cr@p.

From what i know, POV is a pretty respectable brand outside india.

[imgame2]

Thanks.
And what about this new company?
Damn these new 3rd party vendors popping out of nowhere(Zotac,Xpertvision..........).Makes hard to decide.

"XpertVision is Palit's European VGA graphics cards brand. Only recently they released an announcement that the brands will merge again to become "Palit Microsystems Ltd."."

palit has three divison namely - Palit,gainward and xpertvision.

http://www.palit.biz/main/about.php?id=1

zotac is also a company based in hong kong

being based in hong kong they get an edge to get chips at very very low price which are fabricated in taiwan (which is the powerhouse of chip fabrication in Asia,other plants are situated in singapore,malaysia and south korea)...inface most of semicondutor chip needs of asia and middle east and even europe today is fullfilled by chips fabricated in taiwan.In some cases chip fabrication cost is cheaper than US.

both nVidia and ATI (before AMD took over ATI ) are "fabless"(FABricationLESS) companies ...which means they don't have their own fabrication plants and their fabrication is done in taiwan..for example for both nvidia and ati .... a semiconductor foundry (as they are called for semiconductor fabrication plant) called Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Limited (TSME) used to fabricate the chips,which incidentally is the biggest semiconductor foundry of the world.Offcourse AMD has its own fabrication plant as Intel so ATI has got one of its own foundry now,but ATI still has an agreement with TSME.

now since the chips are manufactured in taiwan ...and hong kong being closest and also being in same country...china,the companies ...even small start ups like zotac and palit gets the chips for very cheap..much cheaper than US counterparts...and thus they can make the graphics cards available for very cheap,still maintaing the quality since the chips are from ATI and nVidia anyway.if they use a high quality components ..then product turns out to be good. its simply that chip market is flourishing so new market players are coming up.

thats the story behind new companies coming out of nowhere....they are good in their own right ..but being very new in the field ..they are not well known...this was same situation with XFX(which is the subsidiary of pine technology)about 4-5 years ago.... its a well known name now...and incidently its also situated in hong kong.

ASUS is a Taiwanese company,but we don't find much cheaper products from asus...cos they strive for qulity...and quality comes at a cost.

MSI is again a Taiwanese company.. all the good company are Taiwanese.....moreover if one can look at them they are all Chinese...but definitely Taiwan has set its standard sky high ...when compared to other Chinese products..which are miserably bad and dirt cheap...

having said all that ...xpertvision also have launched HD4850 cards ...which is now available at lynx @ 9250/- including taxes ....phew! ...prices are just keep coming down for HD4850...so one can get HD4850 at 9.4k max !!!!! and 9800 gtx+ still costs 12.5k....3k more ....

[KaranTh85]

@imgame2 : cud u post the link of lynx :rolleyes:

[imgame2]

@imgame2 : cud u post the link of lynx :rolleyes:

here is the link for lynx

http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?categoryID=201

mind u xpertvision HD4850 is not available yet...but will be available soon... u can find that its written in news section.going by soon meant by lynx ..it should be by next week anyhow.



27.08.2008
Expertvision And Gigabyte Product Additions Continue ,We Will Sell Expertvision 4850 for Rs :9250/- + Shipping Soon.



shipping all over india will not be more than 150/- to most of the big cities...so the card will be available for 9.4 k max !!

oh they have added the xpertvision HD4850 here

http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2736

mind u the price quoted here is 8,895/- which is excluding VAT

so the price that will come to u when u buy it ...

8,895/- + 355/- = 9250 /- + 150 /-shipping (which should be less than 150/-) = 9400/-

[kallu_be]

Actually Xpertvision, Gainward and palit cards are all the same. Its just that palit market same card using different names. I have read somewhere that gainward golden sample is actually palit sonic with different cooler.

[imgame2]

Actually Xpertvision, Gainward and palit cards are all the same. Its just that palit market same card using different names. I have read somewhere that gainward golden sample is actually palit sonic with different cooler.

thats what i said above ...they are the division of same company palit - palit,gainward and Xpertvision.

[mukherjee]

thats what i said above ...they are the division of same company palit - palit,gainward and Xpertvision.

lets have a conclusion then...
what brand to buy for HD4850? saphhire/gecube/palit/xpertvision?
need a reply quick...will be placing an order by 1st sept....mayb at lynx.

[imgame2]

lets have a conclusion then...
what brand to buy for HD4850? saphhire/gecube/palit/xpertvision?
need a reply quick...will be placing an order by 1st sept....mayb at lynx.

bro i really wanted to buy the same time as u ...but the way prices are falling ....today i feel very confused if it would a right decision to buy it now ...cos within weeks pre-Oced card will crop up ...i don't know how much will they cost ..if they do crop up ...

but will it be worth a wait ???

as u and acewin said sapphire is a good brand ....and i kinda agree with u guys ..since Xpertvision have comeup with lower prices i m sure sapphire prices will come down too someone here said on some post sapphire will cost 9.1k soon on lynx...and i m sure it will cos Xpertvision has made the card 1k less cheaper.

but really question remains the same ..which brand to trust ....i was thinking about calling up the guy and ask him about Xpertvision and warranty ..i guess its 2 years ..and will it be serviced at our respective places .... if not i guess gecube/palit can be serviced since for u tirupati is selling it...and for they are available too ...what do u say ...i m really confused about it today ...now.

[tkin]

bro i really wanted to buy the same time as u ...but the way prices are falling ....today i feel very confused if it would a right decision to buy it now ...cos within weeks pre-Oced card will crop up ...i don't know how much will they cost ..if they do crop up ...

but will it be worth a wait ???

as u and acewin said sapphire is a good brand ....and i kinda agree with u guys ..since Xpertvision have comeup with lower prices i m sure sapphire prices will come down too someone here said on some post sapphire will cost 9.1k soon on lynx...and i m sure it will cos Xpertvision has made the card 1k less cheaper.

but really question remains the same ..which brand to trust ....i was thinking about calling up the guy and ask him about Xpertvision and warranty ..i guess its 2 years ..and will it be serviced at our respective places .... if not i guess gecube/palit can be serviced since for u tirupati is selling it...and for they are available too ...what do u say ...i m really confused about it today ...now.
Sapphire's been around for a long time now, and on ATI segment they have made a reputation as much as XFX on nVidia.Xpertvision is claimed to be a part of PALIT but they've been crawling up in market pretty recently even though PALIT claims as much fame as Sapphire itself. Buying Xpertvision is as same as buying ZOTAC.
BUT you never know unless you try.XFX started out even worse than these companies have.So its upto you.FAME & REPUTATION vs COST-EFFECTIVENESS & PRICING.

P.S- I would personally prefer Sapphire and GeCube/Palit.But Xpertvision may prove me wrong.:rolleyes:

[pc_game_lover2004]

Does intel motherboards support graphic cards

[tkin]

Does intel motherboards support graphic cards
In a NUTSHELL==>
Depends on type:-
1.PCIe slot bearing mobos support PCIe1/2.0 graphic cards(ALL recent Intel Chipsets).
2.AGP slot bearing mobos support AGP graphic cards,(really old Intel chipsets) and they are non compatible with each other.So check out slot type on mobo to find compatible graphic cards.

P.S-AGP graphic cards are phased out.Go for PCIe if mobo supports.Or change mobo first to PCIe type.
Post your mobo model no so members here may check it for you.
AS A WHOLE INTEL MOBO'S SUPPORT GRAPHIC CARDS(Price 1k-35k).

[imgame2]

Sapphire's been around for a long time now, and on ATI segment they have made a reputation as much as XFX on nVidia.Xpertvision is claimed to be a part of PALIT but they've been crawling up in market pretty recently even though PALIT claims as much fame as Sapphire itself. Buying Xpertvision is as same as buying ZOTAC.
BUT you never know unless you try.XFX started out even worse than these companies have.So its upto you.FAME & REPUTATION vs COST-EFFECTIVENESS & PRICING.

P.S- I would personally prefer Sapphire and GeCube/Palit.But Xpertvision may prove me wrong.:rolleyes:

yes you are right ...and Xpertvision is new to indian market...they have been selling in uk for a long time now so in US ...i don't know about their popularity.but they were there and people had been buying that card.u can see Xpertvision card all over the online shops in UK and europe.

but still i have not seen any creditable review from any site about Xpertvision....will look for sapphire ....

[pc_game_lover2004]

sorry haven't checked it first
well posted my problem here
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96616
please help me

[tkin]

sorry haven't checked it first
well posted my problem here
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96616
please help me
Replied.
Just Check It.

[mukherjee]

bro i really wanted to buy the same time as u ...but the way prices are falling ....today i feel very confused if it would a right decision to buy it now ...cos within weeks pre-Oced card will crop up ...i don't know how much will they cost ..if they do crop up ...

but will it be worth a wait ???

as u and acewin said sapphire is a good brand ....and i kinda agree with u guys ..since Xpertvision have comeup with lower prices i m sure sapphire prices will come down too someone here said on some post sapphire will cost 9.1k soon on lynx...and i m sure it will cos Xpertvision has made the card 1k less cheaper.

but really question remains the same ..which brand to trust ....i was thinking about calling up the guy and ask him about Xpertvision and warranty ..i guess its 2 years ..and will it be serviced at our respective places .... if not i guess gecube/palit can be serviced since for u tirupati is selling it...and for they are available too ...what do u say ...i m really confused about it today ...now.

hell...u can keep waiting till d r800 is here! :) kiddin.
imo,oc ed cards are only IN for the custom coolers...not jus 4 d clocks....and btw,the stock 4850 does jus as well.....and prices will fall each day...but imo,prices hv alredy reached the baseline for the 4850,as they have for the 9800/8800gt!
the prices are in tune wid the international trend at the currnet xchng rates.
as about the 9800gtx+ i ws considering,its abt 2-2.5k dearer than the 4850.....i dont want to pay that much for cuda and physx yet....mayb in 2009 when i will upgrade my rig....only then will physx IMO have something of a say in the market...
tho i very much want a overlocked card....i don see y d fan twaek of the 4850 wont serve me well wid overclocks?
wat say?
i m actually waitin for ur answer to go in and take the plunge(i mean, order :D)

[tkin]

Nice choice mukherjee, +10.Go for it.
Off topic--Anyone having trouble with Youtube India - http://in.youtube.com ?
With old ip range 59.x.x.x(BSNL)

[imgame2]

hell...u can keep waiting till d r800 is here! :) kiddin.

yes u are right bro ....i just tend to think that when i buy anything new ...but u are right.


imo,oc ed cards are only IN for the custom coolers...not jus 4 d clocks....and btw,the stock 4850 does jus as well

right again will have to do the fan tweak if v get an old batch ...if its with new bios update..i hope we will not need it.

.....and prices will fall each day...but imo,prices hv alredy reached the baseline for the 4850,as they have for the 9800/8800gt!
the prices are in tune wid the international trend at the currnet xchng rates.
as about the 9800gtx+ i ws considering,its abt 2-2.5k dearer than the 4850.....i dont want to pay that much for cuda and physx yet....mayb in 2009 when i will upgrade my rig....only then will physx IMO have something of a say in the market...
tho i very much want a overlocked card....i don see y d fan twaek of the 4850 wont serve me well wid overclocks?
wat say?
i m actually waitin for ur answer to go in and take the plunge(i mean, order :D)

again very right my friend ...prices will keep falling everyday ...and i was ready to pay 12.5k for this now atleast i m getting it for 10.5k for sapphire.and i agree with u about physX and CUDA...after a year and a half i will upgrade my system too ..till then HD4850 is the best bet for my money.

and yes fan tweak will enable to overclock it dearly ...though i don't think i will need it as i will mostly be playing it for 1440x900 resolution ....unless i buy a 22" monitor in few months ....so stock speed will be more than enough for me...

so its decided that we are going for HD4850 next week i will be placing the order only by Wednesday next week ...so which brand then ...sapphire ...??

i talked to lynx yesterday ...i asked him about Xpertvision he said its new company thats why launching the products at cheap rates in India..though it has 2 years warranty.and he will give it.i asked him about sapphire rates coming down ...he said no (which i doubt cos he is a businessman...wants to sell his stuff for good margin)...shipping costs have increased now its flat rate shipping for 170/- (DTDC)for stuff weighing less than 5kg.

i asked him why is Xpertvision selling it so cheap ..he said all the cards are of reference design whether its palit/gecube/sapphire...its just the sticker which is changed...and if Xpervision is selling it for so cheap ..its good for consumers..they should use the opportunity. ...moreover Xpertvision's price is only till Sunday evening then either others will come down too or Xpertvision will go up ...

[earlyman21]

guys can u give me the cheapest gaming rig around a 8800gt card & intel 6750 proccy complete with monitor,psu ....etc
mah budget is 23 - 25k :confused::confused:

[imgame2]

guys can u give me the cheapest gaming rig around a 8800gt card & intel 6750 proccy complete with monitor,psu ....etc
mah budget is 23 - 25k :confused::confused:

u mean u have 8800gt and intel 6750 already with u ?? or u are planning to buy them ??

[ayush002]

my mobo is asus p5kpl-cm, wid 1 pcie x16 slot. will it support 4850?
also, i have 450w power supply(Pearl). will it suffice?

e4600,2gb transcend 800 mhz,250gb seagate sata2

[rajkumar_pb]

my mobo is asus p5kpl-cm, wid 1 pcie x16 slot. will it support 4850?

Yes it supports!!!
also, i have 450w power supply(Pearl). will it suffice?

e4600,2gb transcend 800 mhz,250gb seagate sata2
No.. You must go for a 450W PSU.. Corsair VX450W PSU(Edited as per imgame2 as i am not so familiar with Corsair) is best in ur case...
And go for 4GB of RAM as 2GB is a heck of gaming in Vista(A lot..)

[imgame2]

my mobo is asus p5kpl-cm, wid 1 pcie x16 slot. will it support 4850?
also, i have 450w power supply(Pearl). will it suffice?

e4600,2gb transcend 800 mhz,250gb seagate sata2

yes ur mobo will support HD4850 ...and pardon my ignorance ...what popwer supply is pearl ...is it a part of tagan black pearl chassis ???

Yes it supports!!!

No.. You must go for a 500W PSU.. Corsair HX500W PSU is best in ur case...
And go for 4GB of RAM as 2GB is a heck of gaming in Vista(A lot..)

Corsair HX500W is not available in market ...best bet is to go for corsair VX450 for HD4850 ....

[ayush002]

thanks for prompt reply..
@rajkumar_pb: how much will it cost?
@imgame2: u r severely mistaken! it's a 3 year old 'desi' thing

[imgame2]

thanks for prompt reply..
@rajkumar_pb: how much will it cost?
@imgame2: u r severely mistaken! it's a 3 year old 'desi' thing

oh then u definitely need to switch to a better power supply ....i m going to buy one for myself ...if u are on stiff budget...go for

CoolerMaster Extreme Power 460W~ 2k
CoolerMaster Extreme Power 500W~ 2.7k
CoolerMaster Extreme Power 600W~3.2k

or u can go for

Corsair VX450W for 3.3k

to run HD4850 u must buy either coolermaster extreme power 600W or Corsair VX450W

recently i heard people facing problems with coolermaster and various people are also suggesting corsairVX450W...

that will not give u any problems....even though its of low wattage it works for higher efficiency..and gives stable power and doesn't give u high electricity bills too.

[mukherjee]

right again will have to do the fan tweak if v get an old batch ...if its with new bios update..i hope we will not need it.

how do i know that its the new batch? :o

again very right my friend ...prices will keep falling everyday ...and i was ready to pay 12.5k for this now atleast i m getting it for 10.5k for sapphire.and i agree with u about physX and CUDA...after a year and a half i will upgrade my system too ..till then HD4850 is the best bet for my money.

and yes fan tweak will enable to overclock it dearly ...though i don't think i will need it as i will mostly be playing it for 1440x900 resolution ....unless i buy a 22" monitor in few months ....so stock speed will be more than enough for me...

so its decided that we are going for HD4850 next week i will be placing the order only by Wednesday next week ...so which brand then ...sapphire ...??

i talked to lynx yesterday ...i asked him about Xpertvision he said its new company thats why launching the products at cheap rates in India..though it has 2 years warranty.and he will give it.i asked him about sapphire rates coming down ...he said no (which i doubt cos he is a businessman...wants to sell his stuff for good margin)...shipping costs have increased now its flat rate shipping for 170/- (DTDC)for stuff weighing less than 5kg.

i asked him why is Xpertvision selling it so cheap ..he said all the cards are of reference design whether its palit/gecube/sapphire...its just the sticker which is changed...and if Xpervision is selling it for so cheap ..its good for consumers..they should use the opportunity. ...moreover Xpertvision's price is only till Sunday evening then either others will come down too or Xpertvision will go up ...

hmm...told me the same thing....i called up tirupati today and they are telling me that Palit HD4850 is avlabl wid them @10.5k all inclusive!!! now thats interesting......i dont need to get it shipped and all....and get my acrd immd if i buy!! :D
gecube is out of supply now tho....
will contact aditya about sapphire tomorrow.....
imo....palit will do jus as good,wont it?sapphire has good disc bundle tho...red pearl or sumthing its called(all demo stuff!).....
wat say?

[amrawtanshx]

Sapphire's been around for a long time now, and on ATI segment they have made a reputation as much as XFX on nVidia.Xpertvision is claimed to be a part of PALIT but they've been crawling up in market pretty recently even though PALIT claims as much fame as Sapphire itself. Buying Xpertvision is as same as buying ZOTAC.
BUT you never know unless you try.XFX started out even worse than these companies have.So its upto you.FAME & REPUTATION vs COST-EFFECTIVENESS & PRICING.

P.S- I would personally prefer Sapphire and GeCube/Palit.But Xpertvision may prove me wrong.:rolleyes:

I had run 3D Mark 06 on both XFX and Xpertvision ... And surprisingly yhe latter scored more.Very marginal though. And it had HDMI port too.
Am talking about 8800GT.
(My vendor was actually very generous ... He permitted to try benchmarking on both ... And then choose the better one.)

Still I went with XFX one.Dont know why ???:confused:

[imgame2]

how do i know that its the new batch? :o



hmm...told me the same thing....i called up tirupati today and they are telling me that Palit HD4850 is avlabl wid them @10.5k all inclusive!!! now thats interesting......i dont need to get it shipped and all....and get my acrd immd if i buy!! :D
gecube is out of supply now tho....
will contact aditya about sapphire tomorrow.....
imo....palit will do jus as good,wont it?sapphire has good disc bundle tho...red pearl or sumthing its called(all demo stuff!).....
wat say?

well the older batch has this problem ...so buy the one with the latest manufacturing ..preferably this month ...august and not june or July ......the cards manufactured in august/july will have newer bios ...and offcourse its better...

and yes palit will do just good for me even gecube is fine with me .....and its good that u are getting it locally and i m also sure that i can get it for about 10.5k but palit and gecube ...may be not sapphire..but thats fine ...i will prefer to buy it locally.but if m not getting good price locally i might go for lynx or itwares

well i m not worried with bundled software ...we can always get latest softwares ..i don't think thats a problem ..not even the bundled games are a problem ....u can get them too ....just need a good card thats all .....

i also need to buy corsair vx450 which is turning out costly here so perhaps i can get it from itwares ...lets see

I had run 3D Mark 06 on both XFX and Xpertvision ... And surprisingly yhe latter scored more.Very marginal though. And it had HDMI port too.
Am talking about 8800GT.
(My vendor was actually very generous ... He permitted to try benchmarking on both ... And then choose the better one.)

Still I went with XFX one.Dont know why ???:confused:

so that means Xpervision is a decent enough company .....not bad at all ....

[mukherjee]

well the older batch has this problem ...so buy the one with the latest manufacturing ..preferably this month ...august and not june or July ......the cards manufactured in august/july will have newer bios ...and offcourse its better...

and yes palit will do just good for me even gecube is fine with me .....and its good that u are getting it locally and i m also sure that i can get it for about 10.5k but palit and gecube ...may be not sapphire..but thats fine ...i will prefer to buy it locally.but if m not getting good price locally i might go for lynx or itwares

well i m not worried with bundled software ...we can always get latest softwares ..i don't think thats a problem ..not even the bundled games are a problem ....u can get them too ....just need a good card thats all .....

i also need to buy corsair vx450 which is turning out costly here so perhaps i can get it from itwares ...lets see

i have the coolermaster extreme power 500w psu....i hope it will do fine for me....
2mrw i m goin to call up aditya for info on saphhire card...n also visit tirupati if possible to verify the date of manufacture of the hd4850.....

[tkin]

i have the coolermaster extreme power 500w psu....i hope it will do fine for me....
2mrw i m goin to call up aditya for info on saphhire card...n also visit tirupati if possible to verify the date of manufacture of the hd4850.....
Go for it.Try to get the Sapphire card.Best of luck.

[imgame2]

i have the coolermaster extreme power 500w psu....i hope it will do fine for me....
2mrw i m goin to call up aditya for info on saphhire card...n also visit tirupati if possible to verify the date of manufacture of the hd4850.....

it will do fine ..don't worry ..since i have to buy a PSU anyway i wanted to buy VX450 if i get it cheap otherwise will go for CM600W ...who is aditya ...??

ya visit them and check the manufacturing date ...even july 2008 should be oky ...cos first batch rolled out in june last week ...which faced all the problems ...but i have read in various forum that bios update solves the fan speed curve profile ......even if u can't find a new batch ...i don't think it will be a big problem we have fan tweak to rescue .....

best of luck and keep me posted what u find out ...don't forget even i have to buy it ....

[mukherjee]

it will do fine ..don't worry ..since i have to buy a PSU anyway i wanted to buy VX450 if i get it cheap otherwise will go for CM600W ...who is aditya ...??

ya visit them and check the manufacturing date ...even july 2008 should be oky ...cos first batch rolled out in june last week ...which faced all the problems ...but i have read in various forum that bios update solves the fan speed curve profile ......even if u can't find a new batch ...i don't think it will be a big problem we have fan tweak to rescue .....

best of luck and keep me posted what u find out ...don't forget even i have to buy it ....

well...called up aditya technologies(distributors o sapphire & zotac) 2de.they sed sapphire hd4850 is avlabl on order @12k+tax :x ......also zotac 9800gtx+ is avlabl on order @13k+tax :shock:
so no sapphire and zotac for me!
gecube is currently out of the market now.
went to tirupati....they even let me handle the palit card....took it out of its package and xamined it.....
it was manufactured in late july 2008,and imported in august 2008,the batches arrived last tuesday!
its not the standard single slot reference 4850,but a dual slot one with a larger cooler(similar to 'sonic' models),but this isnt a sonic. :(
the rest features and bundle is the same as any other card.
all this goodness at 10500/- all inclusive!!!! :) :D !!!!!! Yippeeeeee

i m posting a picture of an almost similar look to the card (duhhh,i forgot my cell had a camera :rolleyes:) the one looks exactly like the card i saw.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5342/34011modql4.th.jpg (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=34011modql4.jpg)

link updated!
the hd4850 has 2*dual link dvi ports and a video out port,rest,the card jus looks like above one. i bet its one of their 'super' models mayb!

i r goin to buy this....wat say?

[imgame2]

well...called up aditya technologies(distributors o sapphire & zotac) 2de.they sed sapphire hd4850 is avlabl on order @12k+tax :x ......also zotac 9800gtx+ is avlabl on order @13k+tax :shock:
so no sapphire and zotac for me!
gecube is currently out of the market now.
went to tirupati....they even let me handle the palit card....took it out of its package and xamined it.....
it was manufactured in late july 2008,and imported in august 2008,the batches arrived last tuesday!
its not the standard single slot reference 4850,but a dual slot one with a larger cooler(similar to 'sonic' models),but this isnt a sonic. :(
the rest features and bundle is the same as any other card.
all this goodness at 10500/- all inclusive!!!! :) :D !!!!!! Yippeeeeee

i m posting a picture of an almost similar look to the card (duhhh,i forgot my cell had a camera :rolleyes:) the one looks exactly like the card i saw.

i r goin to buy this....wat say?

oh thats really good ...that its latest manufacturing stuff...but i m not able to see the what are u trying to show me .......it looks like good deal to me ...everywhere it will cost u 10.5k only ....but really dual slot cooler ...sounds awesome ...i hope i get one of those ....and i m sure u can peacefully overclock and it an and have an awesome card .....i think its best to go for a dual slot cooler than ...for sapphire models ....cos palit is good enough company ....and they are giving u are better cooler ...all those heat problems will not bother u ...with a better cooler...

i m not able to open the attachment ...try sending it through some other way .....i want to see it.

[Psychosocial]

well...called up aditya technologies(distributors o sapphire & zotac) 2de.they sed sapphire hd4850 is avlabl on order @12k+tax :x ......also zotac 9800gtx+ is avlabl on order @13k+tax :shock:
so no sapphire and zotac for me!
gecube is currently out of the market now.
went to tirupati....they even let me handle the palit card....took it out of its package and xamined it.....
it was manufactured in late july 2008,and imported in august 2008,the batches arrived last tuesday!
its not the standard single slot reference 4850,but a dual slot one with a larger cooler(similar to 'sonic' models),but this isnt a sonic. :(
the rest features and bundle is the same as any other card.
all this goodness at 10500/- all inclusive!!!! :) :D !!!!!! Yippeeeeee

i m posting a picture of an almost similar look to the card (duhhh,i forgot my cell had a camera :rolleyes:) the on