All Graphics Cards related queries here.

[sagargv]

^^ huge noise , probobly due to g-card fan which may be driver controlled . so before u boot into windows and the driver is operational , the fan is at full speed.. thus the niose . .frequent hangs ? what psu do u have ? what are the temps of ur card while gaming / running ati tool ?

[uchiha_madara]

Please could some body comment on the site techshop.in as I wish to purchase a HD 4850 ,any comments regarding the quality of service and components are welcome.

[ssk_the_gr8]

^^
the site is very snazzy.. but never used it... u should try & find out someone who has used it

[dOm1naTOr]

Can anybody tell does hd4850 has any kind of inbuilt physics processing unit (ppu).
nvidia officially anounced that the geforce 8 series GPU onwards will be able to use the ageia physics after its updated with the specified drivers [but drivers hasnt been relesed that support all GPUs they boasted, but expect it soon]. Its actually a s/w based Physics, which is only enabled if it has a geforce 8/9/GTX 200 GPU.

ATI also support such physics processing,...yup, but not ageia, but havok. ATi too boasts that their card can work with havok pgysics [both havok I and II]. But it up to the game developers that which engine shud they use..

btw HD 4850 is now bout 9.7k
read here
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=889565&postcount=3739

[topgear]

But I've read on the legit review site that Nvidia 9800GTX+ have built in physics engine in it's gpu.

btw HD 4850 is now bout 9.7k
WoW! Now that's really a great pricing.

[uchiha_madara]

they are just going to use the extra processing power on gpu's to do the physics processing and no gfx card has a ppu,could you link where you read about the 9800gtx+ having a physics engine,btw nvidia has already shown physics processing (only demo to show that gpu was much better soln than doing it on nehalem chip shown off by intel doing physics processing around a month back)and nvidia has bought Physx and are developing middleware that enbles physics processing and a guy at ngohq has hacked nvidia drivers to run the software on ati card and ironically nvidia is helping them:D.The guy linked to in two posts above has only ordered the HD 4850 and doesn't have it yet and if I go by my experience, computer and computer peripheral sellers in most cases don't have a clue of what they are selling :D, that guy is going to pay a little more than Rs9.7k.

[chintan786]

Hi all, I want to connect one more monitor with my PC and i think for tht i need one more DVI port... myt question is which video card or graphics card i shoud buy which can serve this purpose... the resolution i want is 1920X1200...

plz let me know the lowest possible budget and brand name also..

warm regards

chintan786

[sagargv]

^^ if u want to play games at that resolution , get the 9800GX2. if not , any nvidia 8 series card will do. get a 8400GS - 2.5k

offtopic :this maybe particularly helpful for u nvidia ( guy who has electric stove ) .

frying egg with 9800GX2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDoOV0FFPvA

[nvidia]

^^Omfg!
I bet my card can fry eggs better than that ;)
@chintan786: If you want to do some gaming rarely, then get the 8600GT atleast. Otherwise 8400GS should be good enuf.

[topgear]

could you link where you read about the 9800gtx+ having a physics engine

Ok. Ok. I understood & I have read that legit review carefully again. :D

NVIDIA shrunk the die from 65nm to 55nm and increased the frequency of the core and shaders, while reducing the cost and added driver support for PhysX

Nvidia has only driver support for the physx ( but no hw support ) . Right ? :D

Here is the Link :

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/731/1/

[nvidia]

^^Yeah thats right.. Only software support.
Btw, is the physx driver for 8600GT out?

[chintan786]

Thanks to Sagarv and Nvidia... i hope u are recommending this keeping two monitors setup in mind... no i don't want to play game with tht... it is for Charting and trading purpose.

warm regards

chintan786

[sagargv]

yep , the 8400GS has 2 outputs ( two dvi or 1dvi + 1 analog ) . this will be more than enough. pick the card which has 2 dvi outputs. .

[monkey]

Just saw the debut prices of nVidia's latest offer on yantraonline.in:

POV GTX 260: Rs. 22,870/- all inclusive
POV GTX 280: Rs. 34,445/- all inclusive

I think 4870 is still a better deal.

[topgear]

Thanks for the price update. I was not aware that Nvidia GTX260 was out :D
But still they are way too much costly considering Ati 4850 & 4870.

[amrawtanshx]

J

POV GTX 260: Rs. 22,870/- all inclusive
POV GTX 280: Rs. 34,445/- all inclusive

I think 4870 is still a better deal.

Yes it should be ...(VFM)
4870 for 19k:) & GTX 280 for 34k :(.
Nearly 2X price difference.

[nvidia]

^^And the difference in performance is very less..

[tango_cash]

i want to buy a graphic card. i need it for maya, digital fusion, after effect,photoshop.
i have to work on maya vfx i.e particles,dynamics(it needs hardware rendering)
my budget is Rs5000

this is my present config.
Intel P4 2.8gz with H.T
915GAV Intel orignal mobo
1.75gb of DDR1 ram (planning to buy another 1gb stick and replace it with my 256Mb stick)
250gb+320gb sata hdd.
1 Sony DVD writer
1 LG CD writer
Colorsit Power Supply 400w- >>> i have posted about this at http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93744.

i am not planning on upgrading the whole system now.
and i know quadro is the way to go for applications like Maya but buying a quadro is not an option unless one comes for upto Rs5000.:D

i have some questions-
1. i have been told that if i am unable to use a quadro then i should just use any low end graphic card because a gaming graphic card will not help in maya.so buying a higher end card does not make sense,some have also suggested me to go for the 7XXX series card as they cost only rs2000.how true is it?? and now i am not into gaming that much.(time hee nahi hai)

2.i have heard a lot about 8600gt on the forum.but don't know about the ATI cards in my budget.so pls give some ATI models also.and i have heard it is better to go for ATI models for Maya because it helps in some way.how true is it???

so pls suggest a gfx card for my purpose.also if anyone has idea how much 1gb DDR1 ram (prefrebly transcend)costs pls tell.
thank u.

[visor619]

Hey GUys!!!!!! which one wil giv a better boost up?? geforce 8400M GS(256 mb) or 8400M GT(128 mb)???

[uchiha_madara]

@topgear
Nvidia has only driver support for the physx ( but no hw support ) :D Yeah right.
@nvidia
Btw, is the physx driver for 8600GT out?
Sorry to say but only GFX cards with G92 chips are going to get benefit of the physx support in drivers if and when such drivers are released.

[nvidia]

Hey GUys!!!!!! which one wil giv a better boost up?? geforce 8400M GS(256 mb) or 8400M GT(128 mb)???
Either of them wont make any significant difference. If you plan on gaming, then dont buy them. Dont get anything cheaper than the 8600GT.

[abhisek_bsws]

Geforce 9500GT launches on the 29th :p

550MHz core/800MHz GDDR3


We’ve learned that Nvidia’s new entry level card will launch on 29th of July. The official name is Geforce 9500GT and this card is about to replace the 8500GT. Performance-wise, it should be faster than 8600GT. The reference card will work at 550MHz, while the GDDR3 memory works at 800MHz.

The card comes with 256 or 512MB memory, depending on the configuration, while the Shaders are clocked to 1400MHz and the DDR2 card is possible.

As expected, the memory bus is still at a modest 128-bit but there will be many variations of the card, including DDR2, DDR3 versions, HDMI and overclocked cards. There will be 256MB, 512MB and 1024MB version of the card and this all depends on the partner.

so for the casual gamers at least there is going to be a better solution than the 8600 gt:D:cool:
just wondering whai will be the price of 9500 gt in India:confused::rolleyes:

SOURCE:http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8553&Itemid=1

[nvidia]

Sorry to say but only GFX cards with G92 chips are going to get benefit of the physx support in drivers if and when such drivers are released.
I remember reading somewhere that they support the G80 chips too..

[scotyard]

Hi,
i wanna buy a new PC.
which gfx card is better? 8800GT or HD 4850?
is heating still a problem for HD 4850?

also i have a PC with the following config:
Intel 946GZIS
Intel Dual Core 2.66
1.5GB RAM
what GFX card should i add to this PC so that its not an overkill(its power doesn;t go to waste)?

Thank You.

[uchiha_madara]

@nvidia
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=266650
not definitive but still shows that there are dark clouds on the horizon for G80 chips :(.
@scotyard
you should definitely go with HD 4850 since it gives substantial benefit for it's price ;-).Heat problems can fixed with a xml file edit,also a separate bios fix(look it up on forums at anandtech.com don't know about here) ,new drivers have been released and it also helps to have an extra fan or two to keep a better airflow in the cabinet.

[gary4gar]

so for the casual gamers at least there is going to be a better solution than the 8600 gt:D:cool:
just wondering whai will be the price of 9500 gt in India:confused::rolleyes:

SOURCE:http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8553&Itemid=1
i am interested to know this as well

[c2tarun]

should i buy a 256mb ATI mobility radeon HD 3450 or 256 MB NVIDIA(R) GEFORCE(R) 8600M GT. i have to use them in a laptop of 3GB RAM and 2GHz core 2 duo processor.

please tell me the difference and which one is more trustworthy

[ssk_the_gr8]

should i buy a 256mb ATI mobility radeon HD 3450 or 256 MB NVIDIA(R) GEFORCE(R) 8600M GT. i have to use them in a laptop of 3GB RAM and 2GHz core 2 duo processor.

please tell me the difference and which one is more trustworthy

get ati hd 3450 .. cuz it runs cooler.. & recently nvidia has had packaging problems with 8 series of mobile gfx cards.. so better not risk buyin 8600gt

[desiibond]

should i buy a 256mb ATI mobility radeon HD 3450 or 256 MB NVIDIA(R) GEFORCE(R) 8600M GT. i have to use them in a laptop of 3GB RAM and 2GHz core 2 duo processor.

please tell me the difference and which one is more trustworthy

8600M is the chip that nvidia reported to have heating issues and they are thinking of recalling all the chipsets. So, you better go for HD3450.

[c2tarun]

Thanks everybody
i'll go for ATI HD 3450

[visor619]

hi evry1
the nvidia site is making me go nuts.. c the problem is that according to the nvidia site, a geforce 8400M GS shud be a 256mb card, n the GT version shud b a 512mb one.. but sum hp notebooks have a 128 mb 8400m gs card n vaio has a 128mb 8400m gt... really really confused as have to select between a 256mb GS n a 128mb GT card.. plz tel:
which one is bettr?? can it be possible that these cards, ie 8400m GS n 8400m GT come in lower types aso like 128mb?? n plz dont say that these cards suck n 8600m is better.. i know that fully well but hav to choose between these 2...

no suggestions yet????

[ssk_the_gr8]

i d suggest not going for 8 series nvidia graphcs chip for laptops as .. they have been reported to have problems.

[anilthomas26]

I have an evga 6800gs. I had once softmoded it to a quadro... nd later on had reversed the process too.

I was using it as the 6800gs itself. Yesterday i just unlocked a pixelpipeline(cannot unlock vp as it gave artifacts.. ). I think i did something else..... chose the quadro option somewher....dont exactly remember how. It asked for reboot....i dint.....

Then today when i restarted..... it was acting as if no driver were installed..... so i uninstalled the 6800gs drivers and downloaded the quadro drivers.... but when i tried, it says that no compatible device is detected.. moreover, rivatuner doesnt detect the card. Ther is no option for nvstrap nd i cant hence undo watever it was that i did.... :

This is from the diagnostic report from rivatuner :

$ffffffffff Display adapter information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0000000000 Description :
$0000000001 Vendor ID : 0000 (unknown)
$0000000002 Device ID : 0000
$0000000003 Location : bus 0, device 0, function 0
$0000000004 Bus type : AGP revision 3.0
$0000000005 AGP status : enabled
$0000000006 AGP rate : 4x 8x supported, 8x selected
$0000000007 AGP SBA : hardwired, enabled
$0000000008 AGP FW : supported, disabled
$0000000009 Base address 0 : none
$000000000a Base address 1 : none
$000000000b Base address 2 : none
$000000000c Base address 3 : none
$000000000d Base address 4 : none
$000000000e Base address 5 : none




Please help guys..... i know i must have done something idiotic....... though i had done the process earlier, i should have referred properly bfore trying it again...... :(

Like.... is ther any way to reset everything or something..... ???? :(

[sagargv]

^^ i'm not sure . but i think re-flashing the BIOS of ur g-card may solve the problem.

[anilthomas26]

thnks for the suggestion man...... but i think i wanna keep that option as a last resort.......

any other suggestions ppl ?????

and btw... could someone actually tell me the process of flashing the card bios ?

[visor619]

@ ssk_the_gr8
ya, but all notebook companies aren't considerate enough to offer a wide range of gfx cards like dell... other option available is a silly ati 2300 which is ages old n only direct x 9 compatible... the main question is, "a 256mb 8400m GS or a 128mb 8400m GT??" i know that a Gt is superior, but will the case b same if it is only a 128mb as compared to a 256mb card?????

[sagargv]

@anilthomas26 ,

g-card BIOS flashing tutorials

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/126374-29-nvidia-bios-modification-flash-restore-guide

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/246611-29-guide-nvidia-bios-modification

there is a thread in this forum which teaches how to convert a 8600GT to a 8600GTS by a user called assassin. that will also show u how to flash the g-card BIOS.

[Zishi]

Hello, members!
I have P4-HT(3.0GHz 2mb cach) and 1.25GB Of DDR Ram(400MHz). So which Graphic card best for me..............waiting for your reply..

[xbonez]

^^ ur gfx card depends totally on your interface (PCI-E or AGP?), budget and intended use

[Zishi]

PCI-E budget=Rs 8000/-

[rahuljin]

i have a p4 3ghz HT, d925 motherboard with PCI-E v1.0 slot and 2 gb DDR2 533mhz ram. can i use a HD4850 with this machine ??

i have a 6800gt now which is not able to play games at good fps.

[sagargv]

^^ 4850 will give a lot of improvement. but ur cpu will greatly be a bottleneck. i recommend a full upgrade.


@zishi , what psu do u have ? is 8k only for g-card or g-card+psu ?

[rahuljin]

thanks for the reply ! so i will upgrade fully 2-3 months later so that its price may come down.

[sagargv]

thats good.

[anilthomas26]

@sagar

thnks man..... lemme try...

there aint anyother option right..... it was anyway something that i did through rivatuner..... so there aint any other option other than flashing the bios ??

[govindeconn]

hey ppl:p

umm i have this heating issue with my Radeon HD 4850,.... and the temp is hovering around 88.. when i play games:???: and 80 when i'm simply staring at the desktop:-(,

can anybody suggest me a solution to this heating problem,(if there is anything which can keep cool pls specify it)

Waiting ^^

[nvidia]

Try adding an additional fan near the PCI-e slot. It might cool down the card a little..
And 88 isn't all that hot.. It'll work fine..

My damn Electric Stove 8600GT ran up to 127C :|

[govindeconn]

no kiddin:!:

k then wats the safe temp for my hd4850??

can i overclock it:))!!!!

[sagargv]

^^ do a bit of googling dude.

i had given a link in page 183 which has solution too. . here's the link again.

http://forums.legitreviews.com/about16404.html

solution is found in guru3d forum also .. probably in other forums also. .

[Zishi]

^^ 4850 will give a lot of improvement. but ur cpu will greatly be a bottleneck. i recommend a full upgrade.


@zishi , what psu do u have ? is 8k only for g-card or g-card+psu ?

I have already PSU 500W, My budget only for G-card
what do you think about EN8600GT,

[sagargv]

@zishi , what brand is ur psu ? amperage on 12 volt rail ?

en8600GT is good if u can get it for 4k or 5k max. .not worth a penny more than that.

the best bet is radeon 4850 which is at 11k. if u cant increase budget / wait for prices to fall , then the desperate move would be to get 8800GT / 9600GT .

@anilthomas26 , sorry dude . i'm out of ideas .. ask a user called dominator . he seems to know more about soft modding. make a separate thread and hope that more experienced users will reply.

@nvidia , 127C ????????? and ur card dint reduce clock speeds ? or pc shut down ? this makes me think that the temp reader maybe faulty and the temps are actually well within limits.

[KaranTh85]

I have one question...:confused:

if i upgrade my system with a good graphics card...lets say ati 4850
2GB RAM....
Decent C2D Processor...
Decent mobo...

my proccy & mobo is not very costly...so...will this config can bcome a mid-range
gaming machine....if so...:D


OR wats the priority u have 2 give 2 build a config 4 mid-range...atleast

Here is my priority:

1 ---> Good GCard such as Ati HD4850
2 ---> Processor any Core2Duo
3 ---> Cheap Mobo which supports the above card...pci-e 2.0
4----> 2GB RAM

is this correct :rolleyes:

[rajkumar_pb]

I have one question...:confused:

if i upgrade my system with a good graphics card...lets say ati 4850
2GB RAM....
Decent C2D Processor...
Decent mobo...

my proccy & mobo is not very costly...so...will this config can bcome a mid-range
gaming machine....if so...:D


OR wats the priority u have 2 give 2 build a config 4 mid-range...atleast

Here is my priority:

1 ---> Good GCard such as Ati HD4850
2 ---> Processor any Core2Duo
3 ---> Cheap Mobo which supports the above card...pci-e 2.0
4----> 2GB RAM

is this correct :rolleyes:

Not at all..I think cheap mobos doesnt support pci 2.0...:D . So it couldnt be a midrange gaming machine for anyway..U must go for a good mobo which atleast cost above 7k..or more to build a mid range gaming PC:D

[nvidia]

@nvidia , 127C ????????? and ur card dint reduce clock speeds ? or pc shut down ? this makes me think that the temp reader maybe faulty and the temps are actually well within limits.
Yep.. Not joking.. It didn't reduce the clock speeds, instead i lowered it to 540Mhz(Core) and the temperature went down by a small margin.. And comp didn't shut down, no warning messages nothing. I checked it with RivaTuner. Ill try ATi tool and tell you what temperatures i get..

[simantasarani]

Hello friends.

I have a problem regarding warranty of XFX 6800 GS.

I have bought XFX 6800 GS card from Kolkata ( savera marketing agency pvt ltd, date-28/06/2006) ( 3 years warrenty in India from Rashi)

Now my card is not working so I went to Rashi peripherals pvt ltd for warranty.
But they are saying that 6800 Gs card is out of production and I should take 8400 Gs(512 MB) as a replacement.

Now according to me 8400Gs card is much inferior to 6800 Gs, but they are not giving me any other choice.

I have no idea what should I do ?

PLEASE PLEASE HELP.

THANK YOU.

[rajkumar_pb]

Then just go for 8400GS????? U left with no choice...:D ...

[sagargv]

@nvidia , that will be interesting. .. try using a thermometer if u have a non-clinical one.

@simantasarani , no fair. 6800GT is almost same performing as 8600GT. . so 6800GS should atleast be worth 8500GT ..

[nvidia]

@sagargv: You know any other app to test the temp?

[sagargv]

all apps i've tried report the same temp ( perhaps small time difference in reporting ). . everest , speedfan , nvtemplogger.

[forever]

I have one question...:confused:

if i upgrade my system with a good graphics card...lets say ati 4850
2GB RAM....
Decent C2D Processor...
Decent mobo...

my proccy & mobo is not very costly...so...will this config can bcome a mid-range
gaming machine....if so...:D


OR wats the priority u have 2 give 2 build a config 4 mid-range...atleast

Here is my priority:

1 ---> Good GCard such as Ati HD4850
2 ---> Processor any Core2Duo
3 ---> Cheap Mobo which supports the above card...pci-e 2.0
4----> 2GB RAM

is this correct :rolleyes:

I would advise you to go for the ati4850 and save some bucks on the processor and mobo. Go for an E7200 C2D, and as far as a board supporting pci 2.0 is concerned, i heard a pci 16x is more than sufficient to accomodate that card. I would suggest you this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128334) board.

[KaranTh85]

First of all i dont want 2 overclock...so any mobo which supports pci-e 16x wud suffice...:D

I would advise you to go for the ati4850 and save some bucks on the processor and mobo. Go for an E7200 C2D, and as far as a board supporting pci 2.0 is concerned, i heard a pci 16x is more than sufficient to accomodate that card. I would suggest you this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128334) board.

:rolleyes: whats the price of GIGABYTE GA-EP31-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard


Guys Suggest me some best brands(mobo) which comes under 3-4k :D

instead of E7200C2D i wud go 4 E8200C2D which Rs900 costly than the former dats OK 4 me...;-)

[mukherjee]

First of all i dont want 2 overclock...so any mobo which supports pci-e 16x wud suffice...:D



:rolleyes: whats the price of GIGABYTE GA-EP31-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard


Guys Suggest me some best brands(mobo) which comes under 3-4k :D

instead of E7200C2D i wud go 4 E8200C2D which Rs900 costly than the former dats OK 4 me...;-)

dunno abt d 'GIGABYTE GA-EP31-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard' u r talking abt,but came across a similar one Gigabyte GA-P31-S3G Motherboard----@Rs.3999+VAT.

Other choices-
1.MSI P35 NEO-COMBO-F with Intel P35 chipset 1333 FSB--@Rs.5675...only PCiE v1.0
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=P35_Neo_Combo-F&class=mb

2.MSI P45 Neo -F with Intel® P45 Chipset 1333 FSB ---@Rs.6500..PCiE v2.0
http://asia.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1482&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=170

[sidewinder]

Zotac Has launched 9500GT in india !
DDR3 Version costs Rs 4999/-
DDR2 Version costs Rs 4600/-

and factory overclocked AMP edition costs Rs 5750/-

Now its interesting to see how much price drop happens in 8600gt series in the market !!!

[desiibond]

^^good price. it's gonna replace the 8600GT now :)

[forever]

First of all i dont want 2 overclock...so any mobo which supports pci-e 16x wud suffice...:D

:rolleyes: whats the price of GIGABYTE GA-EP31-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard


3400 excluding shipping. clicky (http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2112)

[KaranTh85]

3400 excluding shipping. clicky (http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2112)
phew...n number of brands which 2 chose....well myself using a Gigabyte mobo
for 4.5 years no problem till now :D

neway will the above mobo has pci-e 2.0 & does it compete with other brands in the same category :rolleyes:

[sagargv]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvga.zol.com.cn%2F86%2F862 815.html&langpair=zh|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8


looks like 9500GT is much better than 8600GT at 5k .. finally , we have a card to replace 8600GT at 5k price point which peforms slightly better.

[forever]

phew...n number of brands which 2 chose....well myself using a Gigabyte mobo
for 4.5 years no problem till now :D

neway will the above mobo has pci-e 2.0 & does it compete with other brands in the same category :rolleyes:

Nope it doesn't support a pci-e 2.0. i can vouch for the reliabilty of this board as i upgraded recently and am using this along with an e8400 and an ati 4850.

For a pci 2.0 you could go for GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L or MSI P43/P45 Neo-F.

ATI 4870x2 early reviews (http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1317) :D

[KaranTh85]

Nope it doesn't support a pci-e 2.0. i can vouch for the reliabilty of this board as i upgraded recently and am using this along with an e8400 and an ati 4850.

For a pci 2.0 you could go for GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L or MSI P43/P45 Neo-F.

ATI 4870x2 early reviews (http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1317) :D

But 4850 is pci-e 2.0 then will this GCard works @ its full speed on ur board :confused:

Btw how much was the total spending in both...by u :D

[rajkumar_pb]

Tell me gfx card that fall under my budget...My budget is <=5k

[sagargv]

^^

dude , read a few posts above. .. 9500GT if u can get it. .otherwise 8600GT.

[rajkumar_pb]

^^

dude , read a few posts above. .. 9500GT if u can get it. .otherwise 8600GT.

8600GT or 9500GT....Which one to go? And If 9500GT then which brand.. And i want to know 9500GT is enough to play GTA IV PC Version(if it announced).....:D ...

[desiibond]

go for evga/msi/asus/gigabyte/palit 9500GT. :)

[rajkumar_pb]

go for evga/msi/asus/gigabyte/palit 9500GT. :)
:p:D:D:D
I need one card..tell me which one is best among those brands????

[forever]

:p:D:D:D
I need one card..tell me which one is best among those brands????

The cheapest one :P

[sagargv]

i thought only zotac released 9500GT in india. .

[nvidia]

@sagargv: Whats the price?

[sagargv]

Zotac Has launched 9500GT in india !
DDR3 Version costs Rs 4999/-
DDR2 Version costs Rs 4600/-

and factory overclocked AMP edition costs Rs 5750/-

Now its interesting to see how much price drop happens in 8600gt series in the market !!!

dont know about availability,

[acewin]

I am asking this because I do not know.
Is there any good mobo which comes with onboard graphic card like 8600GT or any similar or better nVidia or Ati graphic card.

what are the specs of graphic card on Abit IP35-E

[sagargv]

nope , no mobo has onboard 8600. . u can get radeon 3400 or something like that in onboard graphics solutions which perform on par with geforce 8400GS. . but if its for gaming , its not good enough.

abit ip35e has a pcie 1.1 x16 slot which u can use to add any pcie graphics card. 8600GT , radeon 4850(yes , pcie 2.0 is backward compatible) etc..

[KaranTh85]

(yes , pcie 2.0 is backward compatible) etc..

But will it run @ full speed on dat mobo...:confused:

[nvidia]

But will it run @ full speed on dat mobo...:confused:
No.. About half the bw of PCI2.0 is available on PCI-e1.1.
It wont run at full speed. But tests have shown that PCI2.0 with double the bw wont really double the performance. But its does make some difference.

[sagargv]

you wont loose more than 5% performance running radeon 4850 on pcie 1.1 . . regarding performance loss , well , the test is not very accurate. .most tests are done using the same card on intel p35 ( pcie 1.1 ) and on intel x48 ( pcie 2.0 ).. the increase in performance , i feel , is more due to the better x48 chipset than pcie 2.0 .. .this argument is further supported by the fact that radeon 2900XT which is based on pcie 1.1 performed slightly better in pcie 2.0( intel x38 chipset ) . furthermore , i hardly think its worth paying some much more extra for just pcie 2.0 ..if there are other good features , better performance in other aspects , then the mobo supporting pcie 2.0 becomes a better choice.. i wudnt buy a mobo paying extra money just because it supports pcie 2.0 . .

[bassam904]

Is nvdia 9500 a goo buy at this time

[desiibond]

^^ yep. There is no problem with single card.

X38 for example, runs two crossfired cards in X16 mode (both of them)

but P35 runs them in X8 mode which decreases the crossfire performance a lot.

but taking into account that X38 mobos cost 15k or more.

i would prefer 4870 X2 over crossfire on pcie1.1 :)

[nvidia]

@sagargv +1
And btw, i changed the position of the fans in my cabinet and ran ATi tool. The temperature didn't go above 110C.
But its still too high.. Do you have XFX number? They've changed their number.

[acewin]

nope , no mobo has onboard 8600. . u can get radeon 3400 or something like that in onboard graphics solutions which perform on par with geforce 8400GS. . but if its for gaming , its not good enough.

abit ip35e has a pcie 1.1 x16 slot which u can use to add any pcie graphics card. 8600GT , radeon 4850(yes , pcie 2.0 is backward compatible) etc..

thanks buddy, I do not need mobo for hardcore gaming, but good movie watching, the onboard x3100 is not good enough.
What mobo you suggest and what is the graphic memory. The one with ati raedon card.

Secondly as per my experience. if you have vista. 8400GS and most of the old DDR2 graphic card will have hardtime loading vista graphics. So, if you wanna go for Vista you really need 256MB DDR3 8600 or anything better.

[sagargv]

@nvidia , sorry mate. . i gave the card to my vendor from whom i purchased the card...so i have made no contact with rashi/ xfx.

@acewin , are u sure that 8400GS has problem with vista ? my onbard radeon x200 could run aero easily . .so i thought that 8400GS should have no problem. .

whats ur config ? which movie cant u run ?

there is little point in buying a mobo purely for the sake of onboard graphics.i think u should opt for a discreet card. .

[acewin]

@sagargv, actually I have doubt, that is why I am asking. and that is why I asked for a mobo with good onboard graphic card.

I do not have experince of any external GPUs, I have seen mostly performance of x3100, and that too on laptops, the refresh rate is not that good. with 2GB RAM and 2GHz proccy.
Its good to hear that 8400GS performs well for vista
I need a decen mobo+GPU config as I am thinking of getting a assembling a computer, mostly used for watching movies and general work.

I play age of empire 3 on my laptop which has x3100, cannot play naval maps, it just hangs like hell T7100(1.8GHz proccy) + Windows XP Pro + 2GB DDR2 RAM, my laptop model is Compaq 6510b

[sagargv]

^^ with 8400GS , less taxing games like AOE 3 will run easily without problems.. intel gma x3000 drivers were quite buggy.i can assure u that u wont have any such issues with 8400GS ?

what do u mean refresh rate is not good in ur laptop ? thats hardly connected to a g-card.. a lcd screen at 60hz should be more than enough.

if u want to watch HD movies. then u'll need a good C2D proccy.. otherwise , any processor of the current day will do. have a look in the sticky thread " basic guide to purchase a system ".

[acewin]

@sagargv, I have checked the sticky purchasing guide.
I wanna spend low on GPU less than 3K, would 8400GS be better or Ati 2400 Pro be better Sapphire Radeon™ HD 2400 PRO (256MB Dedicated) (http://www.theitdepot.com/product.php?cat=45&sub_category_id=175&product_id=2893)

I see Palit 8400GS 512MB DDR2 PCI priced at 2400 in theitwares.
I wanna keep this low, if I increase my amount I would go for Palit 384 MB DDR3 9600
or the HD3850 desibond is suggesting. I have some time in building up my system.

So I am trying to collect the info.
In meanwhile I will try contacting HP customer Care.

[desiibond]

@acewin, for casual gaming, 780G should be more than enough. And you don't have to isntall a GPU for that chipset. It is very strong directX 10 chipset.

Don't go for 8400GS or 2400PRO. Both suck.

Decent entry level GPU is the 8600GT for 3.5k (evga/palit)

next one will be 2600XT for some 5k or 9500GT for 5.5k (9500gt being the winner here)

next comes 3850 for 6k (beats 9500GT)

And the king of sub10k is HD4850

[sagargv]

+1

and watever cpu u buy , the onboard 780G has radeon 3200 graphics which will decode H.264 . . so u'll have no problems running HD movies too. .

[KaranTh85]

my onbard radeon x200 could run aero easily .



really, u have x200 chipset on inteld101 mobo :confused:

[sagargv]

^^ yeah .. check the intel website if u want . .the southbridge is SB 540 or something i suppose. .

[KaranTh85]

^^ yeah .. check the intel website if u want . .the southbridge is SB 540 or something i suppose. .

dats good..cud u post some links or tell me which r the intel's mobos with nvidia chipset
in them.. :D.

[sagargv]

http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d101ggc/index.htm

AFAIK , there are no intel mobo's based on nvidia chipset.

[acewin]

desi but still you did not gave me exact make or anything, I will try to do a random check though in SP road. what about 780G, can you recommed any mobo for intel proccy based on 780G chipset

[desiibond]

GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H

Ger rev. 1.1 of this board. rev.1 has heatsink issues for the chipset. Gigabyte releases rev1.1 with bigger heatsink.

Have a nice weekend!! :)

should cost less than 5k now.

[nvidia]

@sagargv: If you get hold of their number then please send a PM.

[topgear]

Guru3D Review On Galaxy 9500GT (http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-9500-gt-review/1)

Another one :D
http://en.expreview.com/2008/05/06/review-nvidia-geforce-9500gt/

[nvidia]

Hmm.. Its better than the 8600GTS. But if nVidia sells it for more than 7k, then it will have very little VFM

[mukherjee]

frnz..i am all for an ati hd4850.....
but cant decide on the model....gecube or sapphire....
down here in kolkata....tirupati guyz say dat gecube model wil b available in the next wk on shelves @ Rs.11500+ tax....GC-HD485PG3-E3--- http://www.gecube.com/products-detail.php?prod_cat_pid=243&prod_cat_id=244&prod_id=382926
whereas the aditya infotech mandarins insist dat supply of sapphire cards will regularize by the 2nd wk of august 2008....@Rs.15000+tax!!!!!!:o ---- http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=244&grp=3

i hv come across n specifically interested in the sapphire toxic hd4850 edition with slight overclock n more importantly zalman cooling.....http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=247&grp=3

hw different are gecube n sapphire....???

wat should i do....plz comment

[acewin]

GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H is a mobo for AMD proccy right, isnt there something like this for intel proccies
and still I am waiting for which company HD3850 are we getting in 6K.

Besides I checked in SP road, got info about Sapphire HD3850 priced at 9K+

Is this MSI really a 8600GT 512MB DDR3 NX8600GT-T2D512EZ/D3 (http://asia.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodvgaspec&prod_no=1298&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=136&cat3_no=#menu)

Price in Lynx-India (http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=643) is given 4200
any idea of this GPU how good it is.

[uchiha_madara]

desibond And the king of sub10k is HD4850
Can you point to where to get such a deal.

As an aside,the graphic card pricing in our country is outrageous.Check out this card and it's pricing(http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4850-2-gb-gddr3-review/).

[nvidia]

^^I think its suppose to be cheaper than that outside India. Cuz here itself you can get the card for about 10k(250$)

[forever]

frnz..i am all for an ati hd4850.....
but cant decide on the model....gecube or sapphire....
down here in kolkata....tirupati guyz say dat gecube model wil b available in the next wk on shelves @ Rs.11500+ tax....
whereas the aditya infotech mandarins insist dat supply of sapphire cards will regularize by the 2nd wk of august 2008....@Rs.15000+tax!!!!!!:o

i hv come across n specifically interested in the sapphire toxic hd4850 edition with slight overclock n more importantly zalman cooling.....

hw different are gecube n sapphire....???

wat should i do....plz comment

If your going to go for a card based on the reference design then the brand name doesn't matter all that much. Go for the cheaper one and/or the one that comes with a better warranty.

[mukherjee]

even Gecube now has an overclock edition of the 4850....
GC-ZHD485PG3-E3---
http://www.gecube.com/products-detail.php?prod_cat_pid=243&prod_cat_id=244&prod_id=383202 ---unsureabt the price tho

now am even more confused:(

[forever]

Its upto you, if you can wait for them to hit the local markets and willing to shell out the extra bucks, non-reference cards are definitely a better buy :)

[uchiha_madara]

@mukherjee:'forever' is right non reference cards are a better choice since they come with better cooling solutions but as far as OC is considered most of the card can be OC'ed to same degree keeping cooling scaled with OC of course.

[mukherjee]

frnz..sumwhere i saw a post giving links to a site(with pics) for radeon 4850 fan tweak....it was right here in digit forums>hardware toubleshooting...but i jus cant remember the thread....searches yielded blank results.....it wasnt guru3d forums....sumthing else...if anybody can plz help me.....

[forever]

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=2751569&postcount=8

[imgame2]

where can i get the best price for ati raedon hd 4850, some people here are saying that one can get in 10k but i found no shop in chennai which is selling it right now ? is it wise to buy from theitwares or techshop.in ...where its about 12k ? please guide me people i want to buy this card by this month end.

i would prefer gecube over palit because of very good cooler of gecube

[desiibond]

Geforce 9500 GT, 9800 GT and 9800 GTX+ released

evga 9500GT : $69.99

Stream processors: 32
Core clock: 550 MHz
Shader clock: 1400 MHz
Memory clock: 1000 MHz
Memory bus width: 128 bits

Gigabyte model with 1600MHz memory clock is priced at $89.99


9800GT Reference card : $149.99
9800GTX+ reference card: $199

looks like nvidia is back into the game but at a cost. This will cut down their profits. But pride is more important :)

But I still prefer HD4850 over 9800GT and 9800GTX+ due to it's amazing overclocking abilities and I am pretty sure AMD will reduce the price of this card.

[KaranTh85]

When this card 9500GT came in2 picture....:D

will this card beat 8600GT...but not 9600GT i guess :)


if the price drop is there in both 4850 & 9800GT then which wud be a best buy ?:confused:

[Night-Rider]

Check the 9500GT review on Guru3d.com. It beats 8600GTS. But not 9600GT.

[topgear]

@ KaranTh85
4850 will be best buy than 9800GT or GTX.
But I think 9800GTX+ is better than 4850 ( personal choice :D )

Also X500 series card is always low performer than x600 series like 8600GT better than 8500GT :D

[nvidia]

^^Its just a li'l better than the 4850. But it will surely cost a lot more than the 4850.

[ssk_the_gr8]

^^Its just a li'l better than the 4850. But it will surely cost a lot more than the 4850.

yup...but .. overclocking the radeon.. it will beat the nvidia

[nvidia]

^^4850 has some heating issues i think.

[asigh]

^^4850 has some heating issues i think.

I think the 4850 heating issue seems to be resolved. Via a BIOS update..or a tweak in the back end file for CCC.

[ssk_the_gr8]

naah not really.. msi r4850 easily reaches 700 mhz..

[great_dindi]

hi,
i m currently using geforce 6200se pci express
wanna upgrade
budget is 5k
so suggest me something
( current card is 128mb so obviosly i wanna go for 512 and higher )
i referred the thread but prices keep changing so guide me with a good card and its latest price.
I live in Mumbai

[nvidia]

^^
Extend your budget by 1k and get the 9600GSO for about 6k

@asigh: Yeah.. My bad.. Its a BIOS problem and can be fixed.

[great_dindi]

Firstly thanks for the quick reply
i would like to know the details of 9600gso along with some user experience before going for it.
there r 3 models
9600GSO Sonic 768MB
‧9600GSO Sonic 384MB
‧9600GSO 768MB
which one is for 6k ??
guyz u can suggest some other cards too
5000+ 1000 is not a problem

i even want to upgrade to 4gb ram
currently using 1gb ddr2 sd ram 533 mhz
kindly tell me some good companies and their prices

i got it 9600gso is 768mb

wat bout 8400 ?? 8500 ?? 8600 ??

i saw pics of 9600gso and i dont think so my monitor plug will go in it
i hav a vga monitor

ohhhhhh man i m totally confused
guyz suppose u r given 5000 rs wat will u go for ??
some say dont go for xfx
som say dont go for palit
i was using my card since last 3 yrs and i an still use it. It has no prob at all
but i wanna play high end game at ease

So What will you buy For Rs.5000-Rs.6000 (512mb minimum )

[abhisek_bsws]

Firstly thanks for the quick reply
i would like to know the details of 9600gso along with some user experience before going for it.
there r 3 models
9600GSO Sonic 768MB
‧9600GSO Sonic 384MB
‧9600GSO 768MB
which one is for 6k ??
guyz u can suggest some other cards too
5000+ 1000 is not a problem

i even want to upgrade to 4gb ram
currently using 1gb ddr2 sd ram 533 mhz
kindly tell me some good companies and their prices

i got it 9600gso is 768mb

wat bout 8400 ?? 8500 ?? 8600 ??

i saw pics of 9600gso and i dont think so my monitor plug will go in it
i hav a vga monitor

ohhhhhh man i m totally confused
guyz suppose u r given 5000 rs wat will u go for ??
some say dont go for xfx
som say dont go for palit
i was using my card since last 3 yrs and i an still use it. It has no prob at all
but i wanna play high end game at ease

So What will you buy For Rs.5000-Rs.6000 (512mb minimum )

for 6000 bucks palit 9600 gso is the best....n if u gonna go wid 5000 rs...den go wid 9500gt 512mb gddr3, I think only zotac 9500 is available in India at this moment:smile:

[topgear]

Go for Palit 9600GSO 384MB DDR3. it's around Rs. 6500.
Stay away from 8400 8500 8600.
For Rams Go for 2*1GB ddr2 800 MHz.
There is no problem in getting connected your old monitor to 9600gso coz almost all gfx card comes with DVI to VGA adapter this days.
BTW, What mobo & proc do you have ?

[nvidia]

@great_dindi: Forget 8600/8500/8400. They are of no use. You wont be able to play any recent games at decent settings..

[iorhld]

my computer HP pavilion media center came with a ATI radeon xpress 200 integrated graphix card.i want to know whether it is 32,64 or 128 bit.also please tell it's technical specs.how does it compare with other high end cards available in the market.is xpress 200 a budget card or a performance card?

[govindeconn]

where can i get the best price for ati raedon hd 4850, some people here are saying that one can get in 10k but i found no shop in chennai which is selling it right now ? is it wise to buy from theitwares or techshop.in ...where its about 12k ? please guide me people i want to buy this card by this month end.

i would prefer gecube over palit because of very good cooler of gecube


Well dude u can get radeon hd4850 from lotus computers in ritchie street!... i bought mine there though u get only palit and i'm using it by using the fan tweak and its cool now!!!,i bought it for 11.5k!, http://www.lotuscomputers.in/ u can see this site for contact details! u wont get anything more ^^

[rajkumar_pb]

I bought a new 7600GS as i low with my budget....(I just now bought a PS2..So running outta money)..for 1250rs i got the Zebronics7600GS.. This card doesnt have a TV out... IS there sumother way i connect it to my TV... If so then plz help me....

[great_dindi]

@topgear
i hav the following
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 524 with hyper threading technology
3.06 ghz

My ques currently 2 * 512 ram are there of 533mhz
wat is that mhz for ??
will my pc support any ddr2 ram or just 533mhz ??
will 4gb ddr2 ram run on xp media center ??

Thanks for ur replies
i will go for 9600gso 384mb
or 9500 zotac 512 mb

can any one tell me that there is 1500 rs difference in both yet the cheaper one 9500 has 512 mb whereas 9600 gso has only 384 mb
y so ??

Actually i saw pictures of 9600gso and i dont think that my monitor plug will go in it
Currently using 6200se turboforce

[KaranTh85]

My ques currently 2 * 512 ram are there of 533mhz
wat is that mhz for ??

dats ur RAM frequency...:rolleyes:


will my pc support any ddr2 ram or just 533mhz ??

those above RAM r itself DDR2...i guess ;-)


will 4gb ddr2 ram run on xp media center ??

if the OS is 64bit...:D


can any one tell me that there is 1500 rs difference in both yet the cheaper one 9500 has 512 mb whereas 9600 gso has only 384 mb
y so ??

because 9600 is better than 9500....dats y...

more RAM doesnt matter..its only useful 4 higher resolutions....:cool:

[comp@ddict]

I have a:
P4 3.0 GHz HT
Intel 915 original Motherboard
1*512MB DDR 333MHz(to 400MHz)
XFX 6200TC 64MB DDR

I wish to upgrade my RAM to 1 GB and get a new graphics card. Which card would give the best price-performance ratio for a budget of 2.5k max. Also I want to know whether my mobo supports PCie x16 cards.
Also, do you think a second hand 6800GT is better than a 7600GT?

[rajkumar_pb]

I have a:
P4 3.0 GHz HT
Intel 915 original Motherboard
1*512MB DDR 333MHz(to 400MHz)
XFX 6200TC 64MB DDR

I wish to upgrade my RAM to 1 GB and get a new graphics card. Which card would give the best price-performance ratio for a budget of 2.5k max. Also I want to know whether my mobo supports PCie x16 cards.
Also, do you think a second hand 6800GT is better than a 7600GT?

If ur XFX6200TC is PCIe...(I think so:D)... And plz change the whole rig

[comp@ddict]

If ur XFX6200TC is PCIe...(I think so:D)... And plz change the whole rig


I can't, that's y 'm askin for the best upgrade that will last well for a year or so. Then I'll upgrade after that.


And my XFX is AGP 8x

[rajkumar_pb]

I can't, that's y 'm askin for the best upgrade that will last well for a year or so. Then I'll upgrade after that.


And my XFX is AGP 8x

If so then go for 7600GT.. I dont think it last for a year although many resource hungry applications and games already strike the market.:rolleyes:.
But a best bet for u..:D:D:D:D

I bought a new 7600GS as i low with my budget....(I just now bought a PS2..So running outta money)..for 1250rs i got the Zebronics7600GS.. This card doesnt have a TV out... IS there sumother way i connect it to my TV... If so then plz help me....

No answer..:(
Why...:-?

[KPower Mania]

@topgear
i hav the following
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 524 with hyper threading technology
3.06 ghz

My ques currently 2 * 512 ram are there of 533mhz
wat is that mhz for ??
will my pc support any ddr2 ram or just 533mhz ??
will 4gb ddr2 ram run on xp media center ??

Thanks for ur replies
i will go for 9600gso 384mb
or 9500 zotac 512 mb

can any one tell me that there is 1500 rs difference in both yet the cheaper one 9500 has 512 mb whereas 9600 gso has only 384 mb
y so ??

Actually i saw pictures of 9600gso and i dont think that my monitor plug will go in it
Currently using 6200se turboforce

dnt worry abt ur monitor coz the pics u saw most prolly depicted the DVI ports and almost every new cards come with a connector which u can plug into the card and then plug ur monitor's cable into it...... its called a DVI to VGA connector so dnt worry be happy :D

[mukherjee]

my pc config is asunder....
psu=cm extreme powr 500w

i cant decide on 4850/4870?
can my system handle the 4870?
plz clear my doubts:)

[KPower Mania]

^^i think it will cut it ...... but at the edge ...... better get the 4850 if ur sticking with the same PSU .

[imgame2]

Well dude u can get radeon hd4850 from lotus computers in ritchie street!... i bought mine there though u get only palit and i'm using it by using the fan tweak and its cool now!!!,i bought it for 11.5k!, http://www.lotuscomputers.in/ u can see this site for contact details! u wont get anything more ^^

thanks for replying me and thanks for telling me the price also i will settle down for palit...too ..no probs with me. by the way what PSU u are using ? and how much dose it get heated up ?without fan tweak ?

[mukherjee]

Frnz...
I am really confused...
I seemed to have decided on a Radeon 4850 as my next buy....11.5-12k is THE sweet spot.

But the following post shocked me: http://priceguru.in/archives/news/new-hardware/2115 !!
ZOTAC 9800GTX+ - Rs.14300/-.....I am sure it will be available at lesser rates locally.

I am not an nvidia fanboy....still at this price...9800GTX+...with physx support...cuda support....I just cant seem to decide on which of the two to buy card.N mind u i hav a 500wt supply...tho the online wattage calculators say i'm in the green with the both of them....

Plz help me....

For that matter...i'll be upgrading from a lowly 8600gt....and soon i'll be buying a dell se198wfp tft lcd...

help....

[forever]

Get a 4850.. period. And 500W is more than enough to run it.

[MetalheadGautham]

Frnz...
I am really confused...
I seemed to have decided on a Radeon 4850 as my next buy....11.5-12k is THE sweet spot.

But the following post shocked me: http://priceguru.in/archives/news/new-hardware/2115 !!
ZOTAC 9800GTX+ - Rs.14300/-.....I am sure it will be available at lesser rates locally.

I am not an nvidia fanboy....still at this price...9800GTX+...with physx support...cuda support....I just cant seem to decide on which of the two to buy card.N mind u i hav a 500wt supply...tho the online wattage calculators say i'm in the green with the both of them....

Plz help me....

For that matter...i'll be upgrading from a lowly 8600gt....and soon i'll be buying a dell se198wfp tft lcd...

help....
For the same price you also get HD4870, which beats 9800GTX+ by a small margin, but is more overclockable thanks to GDDR5 memory. Why don't you get THAT one instead ? And Radeon HD4850 actually costs a little under 10K (inclusive of taxes). Not 12K as you think it does. So it can't compete with 9800GTX+. But yes, it almost beats 9800GTX. And this 14300 for 9800GTX+ is not including taxes, beware of that.

[sagargv]

500W psu will be enough for either of teh cards. .i presume its a CM or corsair.

if u can get the 9800GTX+ at 12k , its pretty good and tempting.its not far behind the 4850 , beating it in many places. .added support for physx . although unofficial support is there for 4850 also. . i doubt whether CUDA would matter.

at 12k , i think i would prefer the 9800GTX+ . the max price i would be willing to pay for it is 12.5k or at the most 13k if its a preOCed card. nothing more than that. . .

[mukherjee]

500W psu will be enough for either of teh cards. .i presume its a CM or corsair.

if u can get the 9800GTX+ at 12k , its pretty good and tempting.its not far behind the 4850 , beating it in many places. .added support for physx . although unofficial support is there for 4850 also. . i doubt whether CUDA would matter.

at 12k , i think i would prefer the 9800GTX+ . the max price i would be willing to pay for it is 12.5k or at the most 13k if its a preOCed card. nothing more than that. . .

Its a Coolermaster extreme powr 500w.
now this article: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2327347,00.asp has added to my problems.....
is physx support important for games?i will be spending money....i want to do it wisely :)
n i hv seen sumwhere that PhotoShop cs4.0 will be supporting cuda?

[govindeconn]

thanks for replying me and thanks for telling me the price also i will settle down for palit...too ..no probs with me. by the way what PSU u are using ? and how much dose it get heated up ?without fan tweak ?

umm without fan tweak its 80c... but with the tweak (keeping fanspped @ 44) i get 60c ,i use coolermaster 500w psu it cost me 2k... and btw refer to this month's digit review of graphics cards!!... they said 4850 even with ac @ 22c has a temp of 80c:confused:, well u cant blame them,but fan tweak works perfect :cool:

[sagargv]

@mukherji , not a great article for indian prices. the temp probs of 4850 is apparently solved..

1. ati drivers are getting better and better. and u cannot deny that crossfire scales better than SLI right now.
2. physx support is not something worth paying more for a less performing card. it does give a boost in games like unreal tournament ..but not so much that u have to pay 2-3k more for it.
3. dono much abt photoshop . . if cuda is something u want , then get the 9800GTX+ . .

i dont think u can get 9800GTX+ for 13k. do find out. . if u can , get it as u are interested in CUDA. but paying 15k or more for a slightly less performing card , in my opinion aint worth it. .

[mukherjee]

@mukherji , not a great article for indian prices. the temp probs of 4850 is apparently solved..

1. ati drivers are getting better and better. and u cannot deny that crossfire scales better than SLI right now.
2. physx support is not something worth paying more for a less performing card. it does give a boost in games like unreal tournament ..but not so much that u have to pay 2-3k more for it.
3. dono much abt photoshop . . if cuda is something u want , then get the 9800GTX+ . .

i dont think u can get 9800GTX+ for 13k. do find out. . if u can , get it as u are interested in CUDA. but paying 15k or more for a slightly less performing card , in my opinion aint worth it. .

well,i'll be calling up tirupati and rashi today....
and i found this : http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/07/nvidia-uncorking-physx-support-for-geforce-cards-on-august-12th/

wat say?

[govindeconn]

Its a Coolermaster extreme powr 500w.
now this article: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2327347,00.asp has added to my problems.....
is physx support important for games?i will be spending money....i want to do it wisely :)
n i hv seen sumwhere that PhotoShop cs4.0 will be supporting cuda?

well... if u want the most out of every paisa u spend, go for 4850, .... and even more if u have crossfire go for 2x4850:idea: .....

and all the more the digit review of graphics cards say both ati,nvidia have even better cards ready at their stable ,so.. buyin a 4850 under 10k makes sense! as u can add one more anytime u want and get twice the performance at low price!!:-)

its ur call!! ;-)

[mukherjee]

well... if u want the most out of every paisa u spend, go for 4850, .... and even more if u have crossfire go for 2x4850:idea: .....

and all the more the digit review of graphics cards say both ati,nvidia have even better cards ready at their stable ,so.. buyin a 4850 under 10k makes sense! as u can add one more anytime u want and get twice the performance at low price!!:-)

its ur call!! ;-)

yaar..watever...i will never buy 2 cards....2*power consumption,2*space,2*HEAT,2*NOISE.
I will buy a single card...thats why i am so sceptical....

[govindeconn]

yaar..watever...i will never buy 2 cards....2*power consumption,2*space,2*HEAT,2*NOISE.
I will buy a single card...thats why i am so sceptical....
:rolleyes: u get 2*performance...
neways good luck with ur shopping (pls post which card u bought):)

later

[sagargv]

@mukherjee , it was expected that nvidia will offer physx for geforce 8 , 9 series too .. drivers were suppose to come in july . . .but its hitting on aug 12. it doesnt make a big deal to ur purchase.

[desiibond]

yaar..watever...i will never buy 2 cards....2*power consumption,2*space,2*HEAT,2*NOISE.
I will buy a single card...thats why i am so sceptical....

wait for HD4870 X2 with two graphics processors on one graphics card :)

[[rApToR]]

I am soon going to buy a Geforce 9800 GTX + card from XFX !
I am confused if my Zebronics 400 W psu would be sufficient to run it or not.
Also tell me if there is any card with better performance than 9800 GTX + in the same price band.
My conf. for PSU analysis :
- Intl C2D 6750 2.66 GHz
- Intl DG33FB mothbd
- 1GB X 2 Dual Channel 667 MHz RAM
- A Seagate 160 GB SATA HDD
- LiteOn 20 X DvD Writer

Plz. reply as soon as possible ....
Thanks !
:) :) :) :) :)

[sagargv]

^^ zeb 400W wont be enough . get corsair vx450w or hx620W ( more future proof ).

same price band ? well , hd 4850 offers competition and wins by a small margin .. but it is also cheaper than 9800GTX+ ( internationally also ).

[KPower Mania]

;910899']I am soon going to buy a Geforce 9800 GTX + card from XFX !
I am confused if my Zebronics 400 W psu would be sufficient to run it or not.
Also tell me if there is any card with better performance than 9800 GTX + in the same price band.
My conf. for PSU analysis :
- Intl C2D 6750 2.66 GHz
- Intl DG33FB mothbd
- 1GB X 2 Dual Channel 667 MHz RAM
- A Seagate 160 GB SATA HDD
- LiteOn 20 X DvD Writer

Plz. reply as soon as possible ....
Thanks !
:) :) :) :) :)

well get a CoolerMaster 600W or Corsair HX620W and ur set :)

[[rApToR]]

What about heating issues among 9800 GTX+ and HD 4850 .............. which one is cooler ?

[KPower Mania]

9800GTX+ ftw wen it cums to running cooler ....... ATi has some BIOS problem bcoz of which it runs very hot :)

[[rApToR]]

Any idea of prices oh the psu's u have suggested !
It would be helpful .

[KPower Mania]

CM600W -- around 4-5k

Corsair HX620W - 6-6.5k

this is APPROX. :)

[[rApToR]]

nd Corsair vx450w

[Shloeb]

I have a hd4850. I applied the fan hotfix and my card runs at 50 degrees idle. At extreme load it goes upto 65 degrees. If the weather is cool the card idles at 48 degrees.

Note: I don't have an AC so u will get lower temps if u have an AC

[KPower Mania]

VX450W - around 3.8-4.5k :)

[Shloeb]

corsair vx450w will be more than enough for that 4850. This PSU can even handle a 4870. No need for wasting money on CM600W or Corsair HX620W. VX450w retails at Rs.3250/-

[[rApToR]]

Thx Guys !
Now it'll be easier for me to decide ! :):):):)

[KPower Mania]

[thanks Shloeb for the exact price]

so, to sum it up, VX420 and 9800GTX+ ftw :D

happy gaming ;)

[mukherjee]

This is wat i found:
1. http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2244
2. http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=118&products_id=2384

now what?

discounting CUDA(i dunno how much use it is), is an Nvidia 9800GTX+ for PhysX support really worth buying?
wat does PhysX offer that the HD48x0 and Ati cant?

[imgame2]

umm without fan tweak its 80c... but with the tweak (keeping fanspped @ 44) i get 60c ,i use coolermaster 500w psu it cost me 2k... and btw refer to this month's digit review of graphics cards!!... they said 4850 even with ac @ 22c has a temp of 80c:confused:, well u cant blame them,but fan tweak works perfect :cool:

thanks again for replying i will buy the card within few days but i need to upgrade my psu too ..u say coolermaster 500W cost u 2k ? whereas wherever i have asked they say its 2.6k.and i don't know about digit review but as far as it works fine i have no problem with heat.

but as u say and as many people have said that fan tweak works,its fine with me.also somewhere i have read that bios update also fixes the heating problem ..have u tried updating the bios?

[sagargv]

@mukherji , physX offers some performance benefit in unreal tournament 3. . not a great thing and it has been proved that it is possible on amd cards also. . if CUDA is something u want , get the 9800GTX+.. .its pricing is fantastic. .

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-5631-view-9800GTX+-vs-HD-4850.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/731/17/

between the two , whichever u buy , u wont be going wrong. .their gaming performance is neck to neck ..

amd offers dx10.1 and AA through shaders which will prove more advantageous in future.
nvidia offers cuda and physX officailly. .and no temp probs at all . .better OCing ability.

i dont think any games that seriously use dx10.1 to a large extent will come anytime soon. .and if u're really interested in CUDA. take the 9800GTX+. .

i think that settles it. . .my vote for the 9800GTX+ in ur case. ..but not worth a penny more than 13k.

[mukherjee]

@mukherji , physX offers some performance benefit in unreal tournament 3. . not a great thing and it has been proved that it is possible on amd cards also. . if CUDA is something u want , get the 9800GTX+.. .its pricing is fantastic. .

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-5631-view-9800GTX+-vs-HD-4850.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/731/17/

between the two , whichever u buy , u wont be going wrong. .their gaming performance is neck to neck ..

amd offers dx10.1 and AA through shaders which will prove more advantageous in future.
nvidia offers cuda and physX officailly. .and no temp probs at all . .better OCing ability.

i dont think any games that seriously use dx10.1 to a large extent will come anytime soon. .and if u're really interested in CUDA. take the 9800GTX+. .

i think that settles it. . .my vote for the 9800GTX+ in ur case. ..but not worth a penny more than 13k.

hmmmmm..dats it then...i use windows xp.....is physx available on win xp?
actually the situation is sooo confusing....i jus cant seem to make up my mind!
the question is simple...do i want physx+cuda or not? the answer is 'dont know'!
pathetic situation :| :P

9800gtx+ nd hd4850 are sooo neck to neck !! 8)

[imgame2]

This is wat i found:
1. http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2244
2. http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=118&products_id=2384

now what?

discounting CUDA(i dunno how much use it is), is an Nvidia 9800GTX+ for PhysX support really worth buying?
wat does PhysX offer that the HD48x0 and Ati cant?


as u have said already u don't want to have two cards, then why bother for PhysX card ? as sagargv rightly pointed out the difference in performance with a physX card is not much.its basically required if u want to have real life physics in games,that is if a ball falls down from a height it bounces back and then its bouncing height dies down due to various factors like air drag,gravity,friction...etc.

a physX card will cost about 8k more (thats my guess cos its prices in uk is about 100 pounds) ...so with that amount + 3k more u can have hd4850 in crossfire or 9800 GTX+ in SLI which will give u more performance.personally i think PhysX will be a hit only if card maufacter put its chip on graphics card itself or makes the architecture itself to do what PhysX does.with the number of transistors on a single chip goes on rocketing.i don't think it will take time.but for now by all means in my opinion physx is not worth buying for a conscious buyer.

now coming to CUDA if u are not a professional photographer u will not need it atleast for few more years.

but photoshop CS4 will also support GPGPU technology on ati cards.
read here - http://www.dvhardware.net/article27411.html

GPGPU technology is similar to CUDA for ATI cards u would like to read this -

"In November 2006 Nvidia launched CUDA, a SDK and API that allows a programmer to use the C programming language to code algorithms for execution on Geforce 8 series GPUs. AMD offers a similar SDK for their ATI-based GPUs and that SDK and technology is called CTM (Close to Metal), designed to compete directly with Nvidia's CUDA. CTM provides a thin hardware interface[clarify]. AMD has also announced the AMD Stream Processor product line (combining a CPU and a GPU technology on one chip. Compared, for example, to traditional floating point accelerators such as the 64-bit CSX600 boards from ClearSpeed that is used in today's supercomputers, current top-end GPUs from Nvidia and AMD emphasize single-precision (32-bit) computation; double-precision (64-bit) computation executes much slower."

link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPGPU

even though CS4.0 will be supporting CUDA right now,but i m sure they can't neglect ATI with this as they are software providers,if they stick to a particular hardware.it will only cost them harm.because i will buy ATI cards if they are good.if photoshop doesn't give support for ATI,i will use CS3.0 which is way enough for any professional digital artists need.

in short neither CUDA or Physx will not give any substantial edge in playing games.but as the two cards almost cost the same ..its ur choice.but i will prefer hd4850 for its shear performance.

[sagargv]

@mukherjee , not sure about physX for xp . just like purevideoHD , even if its only for vista now , in a month or two drivers will support physX in xp too. .

like i already said , with either cards , u wont be going wrong.

if u are still finding it hard to decide , make a poll and request every1 to quote the reason why they made that choice.then u may get different views and others ideas.

@imgame2 , hd4850 (unOCed) does NOT beat 9800GTX+ in gaming performance all the time. sometime , it wins , sometimes looses depending on the game. all in all , 9800GTX+ wins by a very small margin and is better OCable than 4850 and has no temp probs which need to be solved. .

[KPower Mania]

as u have said already u don't want to have two cards, then why bother for PhysX card ? as sagargv rightly pointed out the difference in performance with a physX card is not much.its basically required if u want to have real life physics in games,that is if a ball falls down from a height it bounces back and then its bouncing height dies down due to various factors like air drag,gravity,friction...etc.

a physX card will cost about 8k more (thats my guess cos its prices in uk is about 100 pounds) ...so with that amount + 3k more u can have hd4850 in crossfire or 9800 GTX+ in SLI which will give u more performance.personally i think PhysX will be a hit only if card maufacter put its chip on graphics card itself or makes the architecture itself to do what PhysX does.with the number of transistors on a single chip goes on rocketing.i don't think it will take time.but for now by all means in my opinion physx is not worth buying for a conscious buyer.

now coming to CUDA if u are not a professional photographer u will not need it atleast for few more years.

but photoshop CS4 will also support GPGPU technology on ati cards.
read here - http://www.dvhardware.net/article27411.html

GPGPU technology is similar to CUDA for ATI cards u would like to read this -

"In November 2006 Nvidia launched CUDA, a SDK and API that allows a programmer to use the C programming language to code algorithms for execution on Geforce 8 series GPUs. AMD offers a similar SDK for their ATI-based GPUs and that SDK and technology is called CTM (Close to Metal), designed to compete directly with Nvidia's CUDA. CTM provides a thin hardware interface[clarify]. AMD has also announced the AMD Stream Processor product line (combining a CPU and a GPU technology on one chip. Compared, for example, to traditional floating point accelerators such as the 64-bit CSX600 boards from ClearSpeed that is used in today's supercomputers, current top-end GPUs from Nvidia and AMD emphasize single-precision (32-bit) computation; double-precision (64-bit) computation executes much slower."

link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPGPU

even though CS4.0 will be supporting CUDA right now,but i m sure they can't neglect ATI with this as they are software providers,if they stick to a particular hardware.it will only cost them harm.because i will buy ATI cards if they are good.if photoshop doesn't give support for ATI,i will use CS3.0 which is way enough for any professional digital artists need.

in short neither CUDA or Physx will not give any substantial edge in playing games.but as the two cards almost cost the same ..its ur choice.but i will prefer hd4850 for its shear performance.

very well said abt the PhysX card, in simple words, it sux :D coming onto gfx card... if u want to choose frm this two then i wud put my money on 9800GTX+ coz its better in performance, no temp. or BIOS problem and as its frm NVIDIA, it means sheer OCability :) and another reason is im a NVIDIA fanboy:D but that dznt justify my recommandation


get 9800GTX+ :)

[MetalheadGautham]

^^ati is more overclockable thanks to GDDR5 :p

and ATI has CTM - close to Metal(headGautham). So I like it better :D

[imgame2]

@mukherjee , not sure about physX for xp . just like purevideoHD , even if its only for vista now , in a month or two drivers will support physX in xp too. .

like i already said , with either cards , u wont be going wrong.

if u are still finding it hard to decide , make a poll and request every1 to quote the reason why they made that choice.then u may get different views and others ideas.

@imgame2 , hd4850 (unOCed) does NOT beat 9800GTX+ in gaming performance all the time. sometime , it wins , sometimes looses depending on the game. all in all , 9800GTX+ wins by a very small margin and is better OCable than 4850 and has no temp probs which need to be solved. .

yes i do agree that 9800GTX+ has an edge over hd 4850 and definately 9800 GTX+ is much better OCable. and with nvidia card one will hardly face any problem with hardware compatibility or driver issues so i guess @ mukherjee for 12.3 k at lynx u might get it below 12k locally and thats the right choice for u when u like CUDA and Physx support.

[forever]

very well said abt the PhysX card, in simple words, it sux :D coming onto gfx card... if u want to choose frm this two then i wud put my money on 9800GTX+ coz its better in performance, no temp. or BIOS problem and as its frm NVIDIA, it means sheer OCability :) and another reason is im a NVIDIA fanboy:D but that dznt justify my recommandation


get 9800GTX+ :)

What is this BIOS problem you speak of?
Also, if its just a BIOS problem (which can be rectified easily) is it worthwhile to dump the whole line of products based on just a small glitch??

[sagargv]

@KpowerMania ,i'm not sure i understand what u said. . we're not talking about a discreet physX card .. its the drivers nvidia uses to emulate a PPU..

[KPower Mania]

^^i dnt knw if its easy to overcome but by NO MEANS its very serious .... the ATi HD4850 is the most selling gfx ATM ..... so its not somethign over which we will dump the whole series :) pls. someone who knws how to solve it, can help here :)

[sagargv]

but given the same price ( 11.9k for 4850 and 12.2k for 9800GTX+ ) , do we all agree that the 9800GTX+ is a better option ?

[KPower Mania]

^^ALWAYS .....im a NVIDIA fanboy and will stick with their products till my last breath and BTW 9800GTX+ is a better card here in this case :)

[sagargv]

i'm not a fanboy . i've used ati rage II , rage pro , SiS 6326 , intel 915 , radeon x200 onboard and geforce 8600GT.

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93505

i just saw this thread . . .looks like i'm eating my words. .at this price , forget the 9800GTX+ and get the hd4870. .

@mukherji , slightly increase ur budget and get the hd4870. .

[imgame2]

i'm not a fanboy . i've used ati rage II , rage pro , SiS 6326 , intel 915 , radeon x200 onboard and geforce 8600GT.

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93505

i just saw this thread . . .looks like i'm eating my words. .at this price , forget the 9800GTX+ and get the hd4870. .

@mukherji , slightly increase ur budget and get the hd4870. .

at that price i will buy 4870 myself ..i was planning to buy 4850 ....by the end of this month ..and i m sure by then picture will be quite clear

[ssk_the_gr8]

This is wat i found:
1. http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2244
2. http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=118&products_id=2384

now what?

discounting CUDA(i dunno how much use it is), is an Nvidia 9800GTX+ for PhysX support really worth buying?
wat does PhysX offer that the HD48x0 and Ati cant?

id say u go for ati hd4870.. as it is much more future proof..
physx support is not worthwile according to me.. right now.

[nvidia]

^^+1
Don't buy nVidia cards just for PhysX support. They're not of much importance as of now in games and graphics cards can handle the physics processing in todays games quite efficiently.. Get the HD4870. It costs around 14k. Refer to this thread (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93505) for more info on The RV770 GPUs

[KPower Mania]

lose ur sanity and get GTX280 :D:D:D:D:D:D

[ssk_the_gr8]

lose ur sanity and get GTX280 :D:D:D:D:D:D

ya right... & pay over the top.. like a fool!!

[KPower Mania]

^^man its costing 42k .... :O:O u can get a gaming rig with that kinda money :|

and 2 normal PCs:D

[uchiha_madara]

IMHO physx shouldn't be the deciding point for purchasing gfx cards because well look what happenned when a true dx10(i.e no port but a a solid pc exclusive)game CRYSIS came out,till date almost every card has problem playing it at full settings, so what happens when a true physics supporting game comes out and that may not happen for a while is that the story will be repeated.
And as far as other games and ports are considered they will always serve the majority of us out there with not so fancy physics capable cards.

[keith_j_snyder2]

nVidia owns PhsyX, but this doesn't means AMD has nothing related to PhysX. AMD will bring PhysX with HAVOC. There is no clear point what will bring it, either GPU or CPU accelerated. But they say that HAVOC is the widely used Physics engine. Besides there aren't much games which uses PhysX but game developers are creating games which uses PhysX.

[mukherjee]

see this http://www.tomshardware.com/news/AMD-stream-processor-GPGPU,6072.html

wat next? :o

[govindeconn]

thanks again for replying i will buy the card within few days but i need to upgrade my psu too ..u say coolermaster 500W cost u 2k ? whereas wherever i have asked they say its 2.6k.and i don't know about digit review but as far as it works fine i have no problem with heat.

but as u say and as many people have said that fan tweak works,its fine with me.also somewhere i have read that bios update also fixes the heating problem ..have u tried updating the bios?

:confused:BIOS???? hmmm ... the fan tweak did the trick!,so i din go any further!:D ... its the same store from where i got the psu!;)

[[rApToR]]

If I buy ATI HD4870 card , would Corsair VX450W do the job as a PSU ?
Also whats the latest price of HD4870 card if anyone knows plz. ?
Should I go for 4870 or 9800 GTX+ ?

[ssk_the_gr8]

;912721']If I buy ATI HD4870 card , would Corsair VX450W do the job as a PSU ?
Also whats the latest price of HD4870 card if anyone knows plz. ?
Should I go for 4870 or 9800 GTX+ ?

HD4870..... it costs around 19k

[KPower Mania]

ya if ur budget allows then get it BUT wait if ur gonna spend 19k on it, then get a GTX260 which is around 20k and performs better then ATI HD4870 :) u need a Corsair HX620W for any one u buy or a CM600W.I don't think that VX420W will cut it :)

[Plasma_Snake]

Well I was about to buy Corsair TX750 W PSU and HD 4850 GPU but I thought that since the only game I'm seriously dying to play is GTA4 which is coming on 21st Nov, i should better wait 'cause my current GPu is able to run all the games at the res. of 1360x768 at decent settings so why should waste 25K ,which I saved, on such stuff which I plan to upgrade anyway next year. Let GTA4 come, if it poses a trouble for my surrent config then I'll buy a HD 4870 and moreover, it might have undergone a price cut. ;)

[KPower Mania]

Well I was about to buy Corsair TX750 W PSU and HD 4850 GPU but I thought that since the only game I'm seriously dying to play is GTA4 which is coming on 21st Nov, i should better wait 'cause my current GPu is able to run all the games at the res. of 1360x768 at decent settings so why should waste 25K ,which I saved, on such stuff which I plan to upgrade anyway next year. Let GTA4 come, if it poses a trouble for my surrent config then I'll buy a HD 4870 and moreover, it might have undergone a price cut. ;)

+1, my p00r system can also run all the games comfortably at a res. of 1440x900 and if its not able to run Alan Wake, Far Cry 2 and Brother's in Arms : Hell's Highway plus STALKER: Clear Sky . I already hav GTA4 on X360 so not giving it much importance.

[nvidia]

HD4870..... it costs around 19k
You've got it all wrong man! it costs around 13k!! Refer to the official RV770 discussion thread.

[[rApToR]]

Hey guys should I go for 4850 instead of GF 9800 GTX+ ?
I want to play all the recent titles on almost full settings .
My config is :
Intel C2D 6750 2.66 GHz
Intel DG33FB mthbd
2 X 1GB dual channel 667 MHz RAM
400 W Zebronics plus PSU.


Also tell me if my PSU is sufficient to run it or I should go for Corsair VX450W .

[KPower Mania]

^I recommand 9800GTX+

[allwyndlima]

You've got it all wrong man! it costs around 13k!! Refer to the official RV770 discussion thread.That's only from Shantanu's side & face it not everybody stays there or is will travel there.Elsewhere it's priced @19.5k or a bit lower than that.

[ssk_the_gr8]

You've got it all wrong man! it costs around 13k!! Refer to the official RV770 discussion thread.

my vendor says 19k & most sites say so... give me a link.. where i can buy it for 13k i'll buy it today!

[[rApToR]]

I am going for ATi HD 4850 + Corsair VX450W SMPS ! :eek:
Would it be worth the deal to play GRID, Crysis, STALKER, etc. :?: :confused: :-?

[imgame2]

You've got it all wrong man! it costs around 13k!! Refer to the official RV770 discussion thread.

he has got it right man ....there is no shop so far i was able to find where it was for below 14k ...if u know a shop tell me ...i will be more than willing to buy it from there

[rajkumar_pb]

;913285']I am going for ATi HD 4850 + Corsair VX450W SMPS ! :eek:
Would it be worth the deal to play GRID, Crysis, STALKER, etc. :?: :confused: :-?
Why not.... it plays those games with all eyecandy turn on with high settings..:D
Dont worry for those outdated games......:D:D:D:D

[ssk_the_gr8]

;913285']I am going for ATi HD 4850 + Corsair VX450W SMPS ! :eek:
Would it be worth the deal to play GRID, Crysis, STALKER, etc. :?: :confused: :-?


yup it sure wil.. just go for it.

[nvidia]

my vendor says 19k & most sites say so... give me a link.. where i can buy it for 13k i'll buy it today!
Its available for that price in Dehradun i think.
The official RV770 Discussion Thread (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93505)

[imgame2]

Its available for that price in Dehradun i think.
The official RV770 Discussion Thread (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93505)
no its not ....its only for one person not for public ....

[nvidia]

^^Yeah.. Didn't know that before.. I hope it will cost around 16k, then it'll have good VFM..

[rahuljin]

has anyone checked this review ----

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4850-2-gb-gddr3-review/

[topgear]

^^ Thanks for the link... Will check it out :D

[raj_v1982]

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600 GTS 512 MB ??
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY :(

[KPower Mania]

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600GTS 512MB ??
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY :(

Better get a Mercury 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 for 3k

[raj_v1982]

Better get a Mercury 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 for 3k

Thanks. But what about 8600 GTS 512mb ???. I guess it is better than 8600gt ??? is in it ?

[abhisek_bsws]

get 9500 gt , it is way better than 8600 gts....the price of 9500 gt is below 5000...and gfx of zotac is already available in India and wait a week or 2 and you will gte it from other brands too:D

[raj_v1982]

9500 gt is below 5000. :shock: Is that true abhisek ??

[KPower Mania]

Yup it's true.

[raj_v1982]

does it perform better than 8600 gts 512mb ???

[KPower Mania]

A Lot Better.

[raj_v1982]

A Lot Better.

Exact price of 9500 Gt 512mb ????

[regenade]

LOL I like the knoby (read nooby) comments of ppl here !

Most 9500GT selling in India below 5k is DDR2 flavour and there are certainly slower or same as 8600GTS 512MB DDr3 ! If you are on budget best is to grab the 8600GT of Mercury for arnd 3k :)

[KPower Mania]

LOL I like the knoby (read nooby) comments of ppl here !

Most 9500GT selling in India below 5k is DDR2 flavour and there are certainly slower or same as 8600GTS 512MB DDr3 ! If you are on budget best is to grab the 8600GT of Mercury for arnd 3k :)

Wow man, we all are nOObs :shock: I hail to you, THE KING OF ALL OF US :D :lol:

Thanks for acknowledging us that we are nOObs :)

[harryneopotter]

Hi guys ..
I have Zebronics 8600GT installed on ASUS M2NPV VM board. I was away from delhi since monday and when i came back today the System was showing Display probs like.

Distorted Display at Boot Time motherboard LOGO..
Numerous Triangles at bios screen
4-5 groups of 5-6 blue vertical line at OS Choice Menu(Vista-XP) placed at regular intervels.

My card doesnt have a VGA port and my LG 17" CRT (700E) doesnt have DVI input so i am using a DVI-VGA Adapter to connect them. When i connecte the CRT to the onboard VGA, its working fine.

Is the Graphic card has come to its end ??
It was bought in May 2007 (it has a sticker with the month and year marked on it) and i dnt have any bills for it. Am I eligible for RMA if its indeed gone kaput? or cleaning it thoroughly and the placing it again,will do the trick ? (As there is lot of dust on it)

Plz help guys.


Thnx.
Sachin

[sagargv]

^^ looks like ur card is artifacting. does it happen in games / after u enter windows ? check the temps using riva tuner while running games if possible. .u may have to get it rma'd..

[[rApToR]]

Does anyone know about the performance difference between 9800 GT and HD 4850 ?
If any info. plz post !

Also, I am eager to know the price of "Palit HD4850 Sonic".

[Rishu]

Hi... i hav 2 assemble a gaming pc.. under 30k... excluding monitor...
wat would be a gud option amd or intel..
i had been lokin for intel quad n amd quads but still a lot confused????
give all the components..

[ssk_the_gr8]

;917275']Does anyone know about the performance difference between 9800 GT and HD 4850 ?
If any info. plz post !



4850.. is better

[rockfella]

4850 4870 pawns nvidia on higher resolution but the card runs hot. AT 100% fan speed the fan runs on 8000+ rpm!

[tkin]

Hey guys.I'm saving up to buy some hardware on october from Kolkata.I'm really interested in the XFX 9800gtx+.Rashi released this card on 16th july in India.Will it be available in kolkata by october? [650i mobo,no ATI]:( And do you guys know if the XFX 8800GT XXX (PV-T88P-YDD4) is available in Kolkata and where?

[desiibond]

^^ Instead get ATI HD4850 or HD4870. They are the current kings beating nVidia cards by wide margin.

eg: HD4850 easily beats 8800GT and performs neck-to-neck with 9800GTX in some games and it costs around 10k.

HD4870 easily beats 9800GTX+ and costs around 17k.

[sagargv]

and a ati card will have no conflict with ur mobo. .u have to go4 nvidia only if u want SLI

[imgame2]

^^ Instead get ATI HD4850 or HD4870. They are the current kings beating nVidia cards by wide margin.

eg: HD4850 easily beats 8800GT and performs neck-to-neck with 9800GTX in some games and it costs around 10k.

HD4870 easily beats 9800GTX+ and costs around 17k.



9800 gtx+ is not the competition of hd4870 its the competition of hd4850 priced @ 11.8k,
hd4870 is competition of nvidia 260 gtx.

[KPower Mania]

ATI HD4870 competes GTX260.

Get a HD4850 right now as it is the best VFM.

[imgame2]

;917275']Does anyone know about the performance difference between 9800 GT and HD 4850 ?
If any info. plz post !

Also, I am eager to know the price of "Palit HD4850 Sonic".

hd4850 way better than 9800gt !

look at this review from tomshardware for more details

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4850,1957.html

beware the card tested here is an pre-overclocked version from asus clocked @ 680 MHz against base 625 MHz.i don't know how tomshardware people got it cos there is no overclocked version listed on asus website.

now palit hd4850 sonic is indeed pre-overclocked version @ 685 Mhz so u can safely assume it will also perform more or less the same. and palit hd4850 is priced @ 11k on lynx
here -

http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=2263

which makes it best buy in category( and in my personal opinion better buy than 9800 gtx + which is priced @ 11.8 k )

rest is upto u !