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hsetir
06-05-2008, 04:25 PM
Few suggestions. You can try a combination of them.

1.After installation of driver, goto task manager and see if everything is ok. If there is yellow question mark , right click it and disable and re-enable.
2.Update you motherboard bios and other drivers. Then install the gfx driver.
3.Try the card in friend's computer. If it works, format your vista and make clean install and see if it works.
4.Throw away vista and install xp. It should work.
5.Throw away the card.

yash2006
06-05-2008, 11:47 PM
oh thanks.

coolest111
09-05-2008, 08:48 PM
i hve a pc with asus p5g-mx 945 mobo i want to install 8600gt how to do that pls help......
my card is not getting detected......

Shloeb
12-05-2008, 07:49 PM
Anybody know when there will be a price cut in 8800GT? Its stuck at 12k from last year.

nvidia
12-05-2008, 08:11 PM
^^It could come down when the ATi 4 series cards are released.

mayanksharma
12-05-2008, 11:57 PM
Anybody know when there will be a price cut in 8800GT? Its stuck at 12k from last year.
From last year?? IMO, its price tag was quite high in last year!
12K price tag is after price cut! And yep, eventually it'll come down!

nvidia
13-05-2008, 12:14 PM
^^Yup... When it was released, it was around 14k and then it came down to 12k after a few days. I dont think there was a price cut after that.

keith_j_snyder2
14-05-2008, 06:57 AM
Well there will be not much of a price cut. The card will be replaced by 9800GT and it will be considered as dead from nVidia, thats what they always do :(
nVidia already killed its 8600GT, to launch the 9600GSO and will be considered dead after the launch of 9500GT (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/9500gt-beats-up-8600gt) DDR3 version.

Last year the price of 8800GT was somewhat 18K-20K, it already had enough price cut.
Besides if they cut the price, it will come near to 9600GT and no one will buy 9600GT.

seeck
14-05-2008, 02:18 PM
Pls Help me.
I have a stupid motherboard (915GV) which only has PCI slots.
I'm not allowed to change my motherboard. I have found a PCI card made by Powercolor and Visiontek.
Please can you submit the details of their distributors in Mumbai?
Also please can you give me the contact number of Abacus Peripherals Mumbai and Pune?

Thanks a Lot

nvidia
14-05-2008, 04:49 PM
^^Are you talking about a PCI graphics card? :lol:

seeck
14-05-2008, 09:08 PM
yes i am.

can you give me the contacts of abacus peripherals pls?
Also, I need to know where I can buy powercolor and visiontek cards in mumbai (contact numbers)

keith_j_snyder2
15-05-2008, 06:35 AM
Abacus Peripherals (http://www.abacusperipherals.com/contactus.htm)
Select ur nearest Branch.

No company manufacture new PCI graphics cards, u may get an old one, heck even AGP is no more, except ATI with HD3850 or some coming models but barely find any good one, keep trying hard!

seeck
15-05-2008, 02:42 PM
I know what card I need and what is available.
I just need the contact numbers of the distributors of visiontek and powercolor in mumbai.
Thank You

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:06 PM
^^Dude if you plan to do some gaming(even if ure not some big time gamer) a PCI card is good for nothing. Waste of money unless you get it for 50-100 bucks.
Even AGP cards are of no use right now.
Can you specify the technical details of that that PCI card?

seeck
15-05-2008, 05:15 PM
I have the options of
Geforce 6200 (lots of makes)
Sparkle 8500GT
Visiontek, Powercolor HD 2400 Pro

well mainly all are DX10 except for 6200 (DX9)
PS 4
Vs 4
8x AA
HDTV
DVI
S-video
256-bit processor (550 mhz )
ramdac 400 mhz*2

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:18 PM
^^Err.... I think ure talking about AGP cards...
You cant get a PCI 8500GT, only PCI-e and AGP..

seeck
15-05-2008, 05:18 PM
256mb vram

look dude ive done my research
go to sparkle.com.tw if you dont believe me.
Just cause im new here doesnt mean im new to computers.
they have been made specially for people with workstation computers with Effing onboard graphics.

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:19 PM
Could you post a picture of your motherboard?

I dont remember mentioning anywhere that you dont know abt computers and stuff.
You've been asking for a PCI card all this time. PCI is different from PCI-e and AGP.
PCI is older than AGP is older than PCI-e. Get it?

I'd recommend a 8500GT out of those which you have short listed.
If you have a PCI-e slot then get a 8600GT atlest even if you are a casual gamer.

seeck
15-05-2008, 05:20 PM
Even a dated PCI can do better than an onboard cause its much better (Im sure you know why)

I have an HP a 1210in
I KNOW I ONLY HAVE PCI.
I have seen enough of computers and motherboards
this junk heap i have only has PCI slots.
Gimme your email and Ill forward you the specs of it.
Plus I've opened it and checked

I have onboard GMA 900
Hardware DX8.1
Ps 1.0
VS N/A
Transform Lighting NO
HDTV NO
everything is a big NO on this junk heap

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:24 PM
^^PCI is the oldest thing dude!
On board graphics can beat the sh!t out of all those old PCI cards and if im right you cant get a PCI graphics card with more than 8MB memory. It got outdated more than 8 years back.

seeck
15-05-2008, 05:25 PM
i just wanna know where i can buy them
gimme contact of dealers of visiontek and powercolor
I am going crazy bcoz of this
I would have had enough options if I had had an AGP slot
Ah I wish....

Look you dont wanna belive me
fine!!!
i dont wanna argue.
just gimme contacts of Powercolor and Visiontek in india.
PLS PLS PLS
They make special cards for people like me who have nothing on their computers.!!

PS: Ive even seen a 1mb pci card so i know what youre talking about

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:30 PM
AGP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGP)
PCI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Component_Interconnect)
PCI-e (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-e)

You check these out.
See the picture of them, then maybe youll see the difference.

Anyway, i dont have the contact numbers of those people you have mentioned.
And btw, i just wanted you to know that those cards which you mentioned in your early post dont come for PCI slots. They are there only for AGP and PCI-e

seeck
15-05-2008, 05:31 PM
Why the hell dont you want to belive me!!!!
I know what I am saying and YES i only have PCI slots.

lol
Man you have no idea how frustrated I am cause of this PCI ****.
This MADARboard is one big piece of trash.

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:34 PM
^^Alright... I believe you...

Im tellin you that those cards which you have mentioned earlier dont come for PCI slots...
In case you buy those, then you wont be able to connect it to your computer.


I have the options of
Geforce 6200 (lots of makes)
Sparkle 8500GT
Visiontek, Powercolor HD 2400 Pro
Im talking about these cards.

seeck
15-05-2008, 05:35 PM
These cards are specially made for guys who have PCI.
Ill post URLS
HD2400 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131082
Sparkle 8500GT http://www.sparkle.com.tw/product_detail.asp?id=69&sub_id=160

Now I hope you know that I am not an idiot who does know what he talks.
or writes rather.

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:39 PM
^^Alright... That convinces me... :razz:
Go ahead and buy them if you want to. But im sure those cards cant perform well cuz the bandwidth offered by a PCI slot is nowhere near what those cards can offer.

seeck
15-05-2008, 05:42 PM
Are you on Google Talk?
I just wanna talk to people who are tech freaks.
Wanna learn more.
PS: I wont bug you about PCI cards!!

nvidia
15-05-2008, 05:44 PM
^^PMed you.
If you want the contact numbers of those dealers, then check this thread -
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8673
It might help you out.

Shloeb
15-05-2008, 07:32 PM
The price was about 14k at the launch and after few days it came down to 12k in January. From the last 5 months its stuck at that price. I think its time to replace 8800GT with some better card. Don't u think so?

nvidia
15-05-2008, 08:31 PM
^^Yeah... But they wont reduce the price anymore i think. They would want people to buy the 9series cards like 9600GT.

quan chi
16-05-2008, 03:23 PM
i just have some questions for the gfx cards experts.

PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY TO FIND OUT IF YOUR CARD IS TURBO CACHE OR NOT USING THE SYSTEM MEMORY OR NOT.FROM THE SYSTEM ITSELF.

i have windows xp.

well in my cards box turbo cache technology sticker is pasted.

btw here are the two sites showing exactly the same model which i have and just see their specifications.
http://www.elive.co.nz/xfx-pv-t86j-yah3-c0700.php

http://www.playtech.co.nz/product.php?action=showdetail&id=4992

what do they mean by turbo cache supporting upto 512mb.

and i did two tests.

1.right click my computers>>properties

it showed the exact amount of ram which i have.1.50gb no deduction in that amount.(as the onboard gma shares 8 mb and shows 504 mb instead of 512mb if you have 512mb ram)

2.i also checked the card memory at advanced display properties>>adapter
there also memory size 512mb was mentioned.

now my question.

1.if it is not sharing any memory then why turbocache sticker is pasted.

2.if it is turbo cache then how it shows 512mb memory without sharing system memory.i mean it's actual memory should have memory less than 512mb.

please help.i dont want this turbo cache enabled.

sagargv
16-05-2008, 05:19 PM
^^ turbo cache is dynamic sharing. it uses system memory only when needed. but i hardly think turbo cache cards perform well with the slow system memory..

quan chi
16-05-2008, 07:24 PM
^^ turbo cache is dynamic sharing. it uses system memory only when needed. but i hardly think turbo cache cards perform well with the slow system memory..

yes you are right.i have ddr and it has ddr2 then how can it share.another doubt.

btw still i have mentioned it shows 512mb memory.when checked.
if its turbo cache it should show memory less than 512mb when checked.

i want to know what is the actual memory of my card then.
i disabled the turbo cache also using riva tuner.but still i get the 512mb memory.

someone told me my card actually has 512mb memory but turbocache is disabled.

well can someone please answer all the questions posted in my last post.:(

shashimathews
16-05-2008, 08:20 PM
I have an HP dv6602au
I purchased the laptop keeping certain specific uses in mind including gaming.. it has a
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M and the config says upto 287 Total available graphics memory...I have windows vista home premium with 2gb DDR2 ram.. Another thing it runs an AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-58 1.90 GHz,...
i can run some games on it...but sumtimes NFS carbon run really slow...and i have a display error from vista....

I wanted to know three things

(A) Can i upgrade my graphics card (Laptop)
(B) Would XP help
(C) Is there any setting i need to check

nvidia
16-05-2008, 08:23 PM
^^You can get better performance in XP.
Also check if you have installed the latest drivers.

MetalheadGautham
17-05-2008, 01:32 AM
whats the price of an ATi Radeon HD3870 Graphics card with 512 mb GDDR4 memory and HDMI out ? Also, can such a card handle a 30" samsung LCD TV ? How will crysis run on the TV at that resolution, 0x aa, and all settings high ?

topgear
17-05-2008, 08:27 PM
yes you are right.i have ddr and it has ddr2 then how can it share.another doubt.

btw still i have mentioned it shows 512mb memory.when checked.
if its turbo cache it should show memory less than 512mb when checked.

i want to know what is the actual memory of my card then.
i disabled the turbo cache also using riva tuner.but still i get the 512mb memory.

someone told me my card actually has 512mb memory but turbocache is disabled.

well can someone please answer all the questions posted in my last post.:(

Mine card is also a turbocache variant xfx 7300 gs card which has 256 MB ram on it's boad but supports upto 512 MB.
In dxdiag it also shows 512 MB coz dxdiag and any other sys info tool try to determine the maximum amount of ram a gfx card supports ( correct me if I am wrong )

You can check out these link to know more about turbocache :
http://www.nvidia.com/page/turbocache.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_17431.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboCache

http://www.bfgtech.com/images/TurboCache_%20TechBrief,%20v2.pdf
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/124

Note : Always remeber that a turbocache card always deliver inferior performance than A card with dedicated graphics memory .

quan chi
17-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Mine card is also a turbocache variant xfx 7300 gs card which has 256 MB ram on it's boad but supports upto 512 MB.
In dxdiag it also shows 512 MB coz dxdiag and any other sys info tool try to determine the maximum amount of ram a gfx card supports ( correct me if I am wrong )



but my card has 512mb .and also on dxdiag it shows 512mb.

sagargv
18-05-2008, 09:13 AM
^^dude , 256mb is enough for ur card. ur card is too week to handle even 512mb. u want more ?

quan chi
18-05-2008, 05:46 PM
^^dude , 256mb is enough for ur card. ur card is too week to handle even 512mb. u want more ?

i am sorry but you are not getting my point.
i want to know is it having the exact 512mb or is it sharing it from my system.
if it is then i will try to disable it.as it is not good over performance.

btw 7300gt also has 512mb versions.well i think its nothing related to how much memory your card can handle.

i think memory on card dosent depend on the power of your gpu.
you can have even 1gb memory on card.
memory allocation is decided by the card manufacturers not by the gpu makers.even the tc depends on the card manufacturers.
eg:- nvidia says this gpu supports turbocache.now its up to the card manufacturers that they will make a tc card or a non tc card.

PALIT 8500GT has 1gb non tc memory.
does that mean it will perform better than a 256mb 8800gt?? no.

it means that it can handle upto the games which requires atleast 1gb vram.
it doesent mean that it can play that game in highest settings at maximum resolutions.your gpu will work within its limitations.

(and yes i actually aimed for 256mb ddr3 8600gt.but ended up getting this card in a haste.well thats another story.)

and yes almost all over the internet about 80% people dogs about this card.
(i really didnt went through those comments before getting this card.:()


but reading and experiencing is another thing.

YES THIS CARD IS WEAK WHEN IT COMES TO GAMING OVER 1280x1024.EVEN SOMETIMES AT 1024X768.depending on games.
and i dont play over 800x600 most of the times.

(but after a lot of research from the net i have found out that after all it is not that weak as the people say.)

some examples:-

weaker but quite comparable to 7600gt. http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=514&card2=385

comparing with other cards.http://www.digital-daily.com/video/8500gt_msi_foxconn/index2.htm

3d marks.http://www.guiadohardware.net/comunidade/8500gt-xfx/738570/

there are various other sites too.
BUT IT HAS THE ABILITY TO RULE AT 800X600.(WHICH MEANS NOT FOR A HARDCORE GAMER.)


i will post my review on this card later when i get time.

if i am wrong then please do tell me.

BTW RETURNING TO THE TOPIC.as turbocache cards mention it has 256mb onboard and can support upto 512mb.

in my card it is mentioned 512mb.and on another site it tells memory:512mb (supports turbocache upto 512mb)now what does that mean.

no offence but people on various other forums judge a gpu or a card by looking at its core speeds and memory speed.and the type of the memory.

if this is the case then how ati radeon x1950xtx got defeated by nvidia geforce7950gx2.

x1950xtx
core clock:-650mhz
memory clock:-2.0ghz first card to break the ghz mark.
memory type:gddr4

7950gx2
core clock:500mhz
memory clock:1.2ghz
memory type:gddr3

there are various other things to observe too.;-)
btw many of the people here might be knowing this.

topgear
19-05-2008, 07:47 PM
I think your card doesn't have any onboard memory or if it has it's probably 128 or 256 MB.
Look on your gfx card for ram chips. the amount is quoted on the chips

8500 gpu's power is too low to utilize 512 or 1GB ram.
Like you can't compare a celeron cpu to latest c2d's :D

Also rad this article from here :
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/124


Both nVidia and ATI released new graphic chips target to low cost PCs based on the new PCI Express bus using a new technology that "steals" part of the PC RAM memory to be used as video memory. This technology is called TurboCache (or simply TC) by nVidia while ATI call this technology HyperMemory. By now ATI has released Radeon X300 and nVidia has released GeForce 6200 using this technology.

Since the video card uses part of the system RAM memory as video memory, the board can be manufactured with less memory, making it cheaper. On the other hand, your PC will have less RAM memory available.

The problem is that video card manufacturers are announcing their produts as if they had more memory than thet actually have, in the majority of cases telling that the VGA "supports 256 MB memory", which can lead users to think that the video card has 256 MB memory, which is not true.

For example, the GV-NX62TC256D card from Gigabyte has only 64 MB of video memory but is announced as having "256 MB video memory support". In fact, the difference between 256 MB and 64 MB it "steals" from the PC main RAM. The same thing happens on ATI arena. Radeon X300 SE from PowerColor, which has 128 MB video memory is sold as "with 256 MB HyperMemory"

andysmith45
20-05-2008, 01:55 AM
I was going to buy the XFX 8600 GT (256 MB, GDDR3) gfx, but saw the warning aout its overheating problems. I am now thinking of getting the MSI card if it is available in my city. Any issues with it that i should know of? Also, I have a 500W powersafe psu with 18A on the +12v rail. Is it sufficient for a 8600GT gfx?

quan chi
20-05-2008, 03:58 AM
I think your card doesn't have any onboard memory or if it has it's probably 128 or 256 MB.
Look on your gfx card for ram chips. the amount is quoted on the chips

8500 gpu's power is too low to utilize 512 or 1GB ram.
Like you can't compare a celeron cpu to latest c2d's :D

Also rad this article from here :
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/124

read that.
but there are 8500gt versions which has 1gb non tc ram.
http://www.google.com/product_url?q=http://www.compuvest.us/GetProduct.aspx%3FITM%3D331003737-00%26REF%3DFroogle&fr=AIuU92hoSOmLogyXOSdGo7oOkZy81FqBIYY0NMrEv21X1r6 gfrnBM1HrO7AUxPKbHa15kHWM4A4BV32vQ8Aiqf3OIZlZl1Q2B R26gqQ0quG9MyxqiM75-b8yBb7EtowXQwAAAAAAAAAA&gl=us&hl=en&sa=title

http://www.google.com/product_url?q=http://www.compuvest.us/GetProduct.aspx%3FITM%3D331003714-00%26REF%3DFroogle&fr=AMK_6HPqjzi8R5cRwgnqndOcc5NgGRZVwFzbARlE9aOdzk2 hZSuV--US47aS_n-6oh6mIQU5YsMm5CI8vLqINb4zT8-Tac40p20U6I0bCYC9MyxqiM75-b8yBb7EtowXQwAAAAAAAAAA&gl=us&hl=en&sa=title

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series

desiibond
21-05-2008, 10:09 AM
I was going to buy the XFX 8600 GT (256 MB, GDDR3) gfx, but saw the warning aout its overheating problems. I am now thinking of getting the MSI card if it is available in my city. Any issues with it that i should know of? Also, I have a 500W powersafe psu with 18A on the +12v rail. Is it sufficient for a 8600GT gfx?

never heard of any issues with the MSI 8600GT card. Your PSU should be more than enough and I think it can even manage two 8600GT's.

nvidia
21-05-2008, 08:37 PM
I was going to buy the XFX 8600 GT (256 MB, GDDR3) gfx, but saw the warning aout its overheating problems. I am now thinking of getting the MSI card if it is available in my city. Any issues with it that i should know of? Also, I have a 500W powersafe psu with 18A on the +12v rail. Is it sufficient for a 8600GT gfx?
Your power supply is enough to run an 8600GT.
But avoid XFX 8600GT at any cost. Asus 8600GT is the best and it runs a lot cooler than the other 8600s

topgear
21-05-2008, 08:40 PM
read that.
but there are 8500gt versions which has 1gb non tc ram.
http://www.google.com/product_url?q=http://www.compuvest.us/GetProduct.aspx%3FITM%3D331003737-00%26REF%3DFroogle&fr=AIuU92hoSOmLogyXOSdGo7oOkZy81FqBIYY0NMrEv21X1r6 gfrnBM1HrO7AUxPKbHa15kHWM4A4BV32vQ8Aiqf3OIZlZl1Q2B R26gqQ0quG9MyxqiM75-b8yBb7EtowXQwAAAAAAAAAA&gl=us&hl=en&sa=title

http://www.google.com/product_url?q=http://www.compuvest.us/GetProduct.aspx%3FITM%3D331003714-00%26REF%3DFroogle&fr=AMK_6HPqjzi8R5cRwgnqndOcc5NgGRZVwFzbARlE9aOdzk2 hZSuV--US47aS_n-6oh6mIQU5YsMm5CI8vLqINb4zT8-Tac40p20U6I0bCYC9MyxqiM75-b8yBb7EtowXQwAAAAAAAAAA&gl=us&hl=en&sa=title

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series


As I've said earlier 8500 GT is too underpowered to handle even 512 MB. I know there are 1 GB versions available without TC but that can't even beat a 8600 GT 256 MB :D

quan chi
21-05-2008, 09:26 PM
As I've said earlier 8500 GT is too underpowered to handle even 512 MB. I know there are 1 GB versions available without TC but that can't even beat a 8600 GT 256 MB :D

read this.http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=832006&postcount=5040

thanks for your replies.

btw after lots of queries i have found out that it seems that it has that memory onboard and is not sharing it.

parimal_xp2003
22-05-2008, 12:51 AM
I have PALIT 8600 GT.
But it doesn't allow me to set resolution higher than 1024X768.

Does any settings required for that?
Tell me more about Nvidia settings.

sagargv
22-05-2008, 10:06 AM
^^ what monitor do u have ?

PainKiller
22-05-2008, 11:34 AM
I have PALIT 8600 GT.
But it doesn't allow me to set resolution higher than 1024X768.

Does any settings required for that?
Tell me more about Nvidia settings.

ur monitor MUST support res. higher than 1024x768. only then u can set it.

Artemis
22-05-2008, 01:25 PM
I have a Biostar P4TGV-R v8.1, on the agp 8x slot there's a sticker that stays that do not insert a 3.3v card as it may cause damage though it runs a GForce 5950 fine, i'm planning to buy a 6600 or 6200 AGP any other recommendations my budget is 2k, will these cards run fine????

PainKiller
22-05-2008, 01:46 PM
I have a Biostar P4TGV-R v8.1, on the agp 8x slot there's a sticker that stays that do not insert a 3.3v card as it may cause damage though it runs a GForce 5950 fine, i'm planning to buy a 6600 or 6200 AGP any other recommendations my budget is 2k, will these cards run fine????

which brand u gonna buy?

Gigacore
23-05-2008, 09:57 AM
guys,

will 7300GT AGP Card support 1680 x 1050 resolution ?

desiibond
23-05-2008, 10:14 AM
^^ yep it should support. 7 series supports upto 2048x1536 at 85Hz (http://www.nvidia.com/object/7_series_techspecs.html)

Gaming benchmark at 1600x1200: http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=562&p=4

Gigacore
23-05-2008, 10:23 AM
^ thank u!!! how much will it cost? Any idea ?

desiibond
23-05-2008, 10:37 AM
don't know the exact price but the 256MB card should cost less than 3k.

mastermunj
23-05-2008, 01:30 PM
which will be the best graphics card to buy in 5k???

kalpik
23-05-2008, 01:54 PM
8600 Gt

MetalheadGautham
23-05-2008, 02:03 PM
which will be the best graphics card to buy in 5k???
AMD ATI Radeon RX3650 512 mb GDDR2

it beats the crap out of 8600GT and has support for DirectX 10.1

and if you get the 512/256mb GDDR3 model, its even more better.

Gigacore
23-05-2008, 02:12 PM
@ desi, thanks!

mastermunj
23-05-2008, 02:15 PM
AMD ATI Radeon RX3650 512 mb GDDR2

it beats the crap out of 8600GT and has support for DirectX 10.1

and if you get the 512/256mb GDDR3 model, its even more better.

How much RX3650 512MB DDR2 costs??

any blog or website for comparision betn 8600gt & ATI Radeon??

nvidia
23-05-2008, 05:08 PM
whats the price of an ATi Radeon HD3870 Graphics card with 512 mb GDDR4 memory and HDMI out ? Also, can such a card handle a 30" samsung LCD TV ? How will crysis run on the TV at that resolution, 0x aa, and all settings high ?
My friend has a HD3870X2 and he can play Crysis on his LCD TV with everything set to very high with 2xAA. 3870 should be able to handle it at high without AA.

sagargv
23-05-2008, 05:19 PM
AMD ATI Radeon RX3650 512 mb GDDR2

it beats the crap out of 8600GT and has support for DirectX 10.1

and if you get the 512/256mb GDDR3 model, its even more better.

i beg to differ.i vote for 8600GT.here's a review


http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/gpu_displays/powercolor_hd3650_extreme_pcs_edition/5


i've referred to this review more than once in this forum.quite a lot of people think radeon 3650 is a lot better than 8600GT. . here's proof that its not.
but 3650 runs a lot cooler than the 8600GT. i dont think this should be a problem as long as u dont buy xfx 8600GT which are rather hot. . get from evga ( theitwares is giving them ) .

and dont get fooled by the support for dx10.1 . no nvidia card today supports dx10.1 . .no game manufacturer would dare to make a dx10.1 exclusive. .besides , both these cards are too weak to even handle dx10 at decent settings.

nvidia
23-05-2008, 05:30 PM
^^Exactly... There is another post where he said the same thing..
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=836835&postcount=3646

sagargv
23-05-2008, 06:11 PM
@metalheadgautham , no offence meant in any posts . could you please give the link to the rivew / blog which claims that 3650 is a lot better than 8600gt ?
If indeed what u're saying is true , it must be made known more widely and as soon as possible since quite a lot of people are buying 8600's . .evidence i've found suggests otherwise .. please give ur reference and we'll discuss the matter.

nvidia
23-05-2008, 08:29 PM
^^+1
I have suggested 8600GT to a lot of people who wanted a budget graphics card.
If the ATi card is better, ill be more than happy to recommend the card to people with low budgets.. :)

desiibond
23-05-2008, 08:54 PM
rupee to rupee ATI can't match nVidia. But when coupled with AMD proccy and 7xx chipset, the nvidia card's are fairly beaten in performance:price ratio, thanks to the hybrid crossfire and terrific pricing of mobo's.

Moreover, 8600GT is a superb overclocker and 3650 is a really really bad overclocker. You can not do much on it.

The ATI HD 3850 will be a better buy but that comes at a price :)

I bought 2600XT so that I can couple it with 790G mobo that I am getting in 2weeks of time. :)

That way, I can crush core2duo+8600GT :)

beckram23
23-05-2008, 11:09 PM
hi friends...i m living in chennai....can anyone get me the list of graphics cards if price range from 2k to 3.5k???

sagargv
23-05-2008, 11:42 PM
^^ get 8500GT if u have a pciex16 slot. .

@desiibond , in india radeon 3850 is priced at 11k . 9600GT is priced at 9k .. . what do u say about price performance ratio .. if the 3870 was priced at 10k , it would be a good buy and strong contendor for 9600GT.. .but even the 3850 is costlier than 9600GT in india. .price performance ratio favours ati internationally but not in india i feel.

hybrid crossfire is a good advantage of amd. .but are there much games that use such a configuration ? would'nt it be better to get a 3870 now than a 2600 now and a 3870x2 later for crossfire ? i hardly think the 2600xt will contribute to any performance if its not negative due to scaling problems. .

rightly as you said , a 3850 at 6k is the right price for it and will have many takers if priced at that point . . .but priced at 11k its not worth it.

just sharing my views and contempt for the indian market to favour nvidia for reasons beyond me. why are ati cards so high priced compared to nvidia cards in india ? there's got to be something more than just availability ..

mayanksharma
24-05-2008, 01:55 AM
@gautham,
8600GT performs better than 3650!
Infact a tad better...coz, 8600GT is one gr8 overclocking gpu(not to mention better clocks, higher core and mem volts)! However, yep both 3850 and 3870 are better performing cards than 8600! Though, their steep prices often create blockades for buyers! Nvidia on the other hand has amazing flavours! :p
Again, both 3850 and 3870 offer nice features for their prices. But i believe the mass is with Nvidia here in India! Any typical user in here would like to go with Nvidia becoz of its name, price, availability and after services! ATi in this case has to offer a lot more than it is offering right now!

sagargv
24-05-2008, 02:53 PM
ok. its agreed upon that 8600GT is better than 3650 at the 5k point ?

pillainp
26-05-2008, 01:31 AM
I have a small doubt.

My system has a DG965RY motherboard, on which I am currently running an XFX 8600GT.

I plan to upgrade to a Palit 9600GT Sonic 512MB.

My doubt is whether the Palit card will physically fit on my motherboard.

If anyone can give me the exact physical dimensions of the Sonic, I would be most obliged.

TIA
NPP

keith_j_snyder2
26-05-2008, 03:39 AM
^ Which cabinet u are using?
9600GT (Almost 10" long) will occupy lesser than a microATX board!
So it is a perfect fit for ur board.

ajnaskhan
27-05-2008, 04:37 AM
Guy's, Me new to the forum...........
First of all, An Excellent thread....Regards 4 da starter..........

Well I am in search of GFX card under AGP 8x........

Budget = below Rs 5000/-
Prefer = Nvidia
VRAM = not lesser than 256MB
AGP 8X

SYS Specs
Intel 915 GVM Board
P4 HHT 2.93 Ghz
512 DDR RAM

Also specify the best Graphics my system can hold...................

soumyaonweb
27-05-2008, 07:26 AM
i have a Compaq A933TU laptop with Intel C2D 1.83Ghz processor and 2GB RAM.
Does this laptop supports any graphics card?
If yes plzzz recommend some along with their prices.

sagargv
27-05-2008, 10:27 AM
@ajnaskhan

u sure ur mobo supports agp8x . AFAIK , 915 based mobo's offer only pciex16

if u're sure that u have only a agp8x slot , then u can go for 7300GT or 7600GS

the order of performance is 7600GT > 7600GS > 7300GT. pick whichever falls to ur budget.

paranj
27-05-2008, 03:17 PM
@soumyaonweb

Ur laptop does not seem to hav a port for expansion but it comes pre-fitted with an onboard graphics card known on the universe as Intel Media Graphics Accelarator X3100. It cant play games but will run Vista fine without Aero u know!

keith_j_snyder2
27-05-2008, 06:36 PM
i have a Compaq A933TU laptop with Intel C2D 1.83Ghz processor and 2GB RAM.
Does this laptop supports any graphics card?
If yes plzzz recommend some along with their prices.

There is not a feasible solution for this apart from external graphics card. ASUS went into this time ago by using 7900GT for laptop and now they are doing same with ATi HD3870, but tis still a WIP and no confirmation about this.

Sandeepfrompune
28-05-2008, 02:06 AM
for new Gfx cards... after some reading of sooooo many forums and posts here,
I selected some cards. went to itwares to get some prices. I m in Pune but hopefully pune-mumbai prices will not differ much.... :)
Rs. company card and memory ( refer the http://www.theitwares.com )
09200 EVGA 9600GT SC - 512MB DDR3 SC
09350 EVGA 9600 GT KO 512MB DDR3 KO
12250 EVGA 8800 GT SC 512MB DDR3 SC
13900 EVGA 8800 GT SC 512MB DDR3 SC
13600 EVGA EVGA 8800 GT KO 512MB DDR3 KO
12000 MSI 8800GT OC Edition 512MB DDR3
09400 MSI 9600GT OC Edition 512MB DDR3

1. and tell me overall best of these witout SLi. - for mid+highrange game. ( CURRENT budget 15k) (max dont know :) )or some other stock or OCed or Superclocked versions of above ? [if you want to suggest more, simply put them in ORDER/SEQUENCE ]

i am thinking abit i35p-pro (may do OCing) . but thinking that in future, replacing GCard might not be that easy(moneywise), i may go for SLi . so tell me good option for

2. best of these for SLi - also suggest MOBO then for SLi. Abit ip35-pro can be used for SLi? right now I will use one card only.
Also tell me will I have to get DDr2 RAM or DDR3 ram (is it avail? )
thx in advance. (hehehehehe)

paranj
28-05-2008, 07:22 AM
@Sandeepfrompune
thanks for ur effort, I was looking for the new price list. Now if u are just going to stick with a single card all way long i had suggest u spend in a XFX 8800GTS 512MB for Rs.14,500 or something and the best card for SLI out there is 8800GT 512MB. go for the EVGA's 8800GT 512MB SC(SuperClocked) version which u have mentioned above. The best SLi board will be the new 780i chipsetes from NVIDIA but if u are looking something which a normal human like u and me can buy than look at the old 680i chipsetes which offer terrible performance and extensive overclockability. There are some of the P35 SLi boards also available from ASUS and MSI from which none cost UNDER Rs.15,000 and make no sense spending on. NVIDIA 680i chipset will be your best bet. You can also settle for affordable SLi solution with 2xEVGA 9600 GT SCs.

sagargv
28-05-2008, 08:52 AM
for new Gfx cards... after some reading of sooooo many forums and posts here,
I selected some cards. went to itwares to get some prices. I m in Pune but hopefully pune-mumbai prices will not differ much.... :)
Rs. company card and memory ( refer the http://www.theitwares.com )
09200 EVGA 9600GT SC - 512MB DDR3 SC
09350 EVGA 9600 GT KO 512MB DDR3 KO
12250 EVGA 8800 GT SC 512MB DDR3 SC
13900 EVGA 8800 GT SC 512MB DDR3 SC
13600 EVGA EVGA 8800 GT KO 512MB DDR3 KO
12000 MSI 8800GT OC Edition 512MB DDR3
09400 MSI 9600GT OC Edition 512MB DDR3

1. and tell me overall best of these witout SLi. - for mid+highrange game. ( CURRENT budget 15k) (max dont know :) )or some other stock or OCed or Superclocked versions of above ? [if you want to suggest more, simply put them in ORDER/SEQUENCE ]

i am thinking abit i35p-pro (may do OCing) . but thinking that in future, replacing GCard might not be that easy(moneywise), i may go for SLi . so tell me good option for

2. best of these for SLi - also suggest MOBO then for SLi. Abit ip35-pro can be used for SLi? right now I will use one card only.
Also tell me will I have to get DDr2 RAM or DDR3 ram (is it avail? )
thx in advance. (hehehehehe)

pick a OCed card from evga having highest frequency . .KO is the one i think . . i hope that u have a good enough psu for that card. i dont recommend SLI to u. better to save money and get a new card faster than going SLI now and waiting longer to upgrade .. but if u're going to upgrade soon and still have the cash to burn , go4 SLI ..

davinder.anand
28-05-2008, 10:55 AM
Hi All,

I'm new to this forum and hence donot know whether this a better place to post my query or not. Apologies if i'm wrong.

Thanks to all who made this forum so active and helpful.

i want to buy a new Mobo and GPU (Nvidia) and hence require help from you guys to suggest me the best.

Budget = under 18k
Mobo = SLI preffered with a better heat sink.
GPU = Nvidia (256 and above) with a bulit in fan.

Thanks in advance

paranj
28-05-2008, 12:25 PM
@davinder.anand

ok is the 18k budget for both or 18k for each component? Well if its combined than ur best bet would be to buy a 680i based SLi board and a Sparkle 9600GT 512MB. Go for the EVGA 680i LT SLi

topgear
28-05-2008, 07:30 PM
Hi All,

I'm new to this forum and hence donot know whether this a better place to post my query or not. Apologies if i'm wrong.

Thanks to all who made this forum so active and helpful.

i want to buy a new Mobo and GPU (Nvidia) and hence require help from you guys to suggest me the best.

Budget = under 18k
Mobo = SLI preffered with a better heat sink.
GPU = Nvidia (256 and above) with a bulit in fan.

Thanks in advance

Go for xfx 680i Lt. It should e around 10K-11K.

For gfx card extend the budget little more & get 2 xfx 8600GT For around 9K for sli setup.
or
1 Xfx 8800GT For around 12.5 K.

nvidia
28-05-2008, 08:43 PM
^^SLi doesnt really improve the performance that much. If he has a budget of 9k, then i'd recommend the 9600GT instead.
And XFX 8600GT is something everyone should stay away from at any cost. If 8600GT is the card that you wanna buy, then go for something like ASUS.

paranj
28-05-2008, 09:19 PM
yeah read NVIDIA's signature^^^^ it answers ur question

nvidia
28-05-2008, 09:28 PM
yeah read NVIDIA's signature^^^^ it answers ur question
:D

paranj
28-05-2008, 09:33 PM
hey nvidia hows ur experience with 8600GT? describe it to us !

sagargv
28-05-2008, 10:06 PM
Hi All,

I'm new to this forum and hence donot know whether this a better place to post my query or not. Apologies if i'm wrong.

Thanks to all who made this forum so active and helpful.

i want to buy a new Mobo and GPU (Nvidia) and hence require help from you guys to suggest me the best.

Budget = under 18k
Mobo = SLI preffered with a better heat sink.
GPU = Nvidia (256 and above) with a bulit in fan.

Thanks in advance

get a 8800GT 512mb - 12k
that leaves 6k for mobo . get a abit ip35e.

i hope u have added a good enough psu to run that g-card. .atleast a cooler master 600W extreme power is needed..

paranj
28-05-2008, 10:08 PM
nope^^ i run it on Cooler Master eXtreme 500W

Sandeepfrompune
29-05-2008, 01:46 AM
Thx SagarV... - just for info, I am not going for SLi right now. I was just thinking that I will buy a card now and after some time (read money ) get a one more copy to make it Sli. but anyways looks like going for newer version seems better option...
@Sandeepfrompune
....and the best card for SLI out there is 8800GT 512MB. go for the EVGA's 8800GT 512MB SC(SuperClocked) version which u have mentioned above. ........You can also settle for affordable SLi solution with 2xEVGA 9600 GT SCs.
so 9600 GT is better than 8800 GT..? or that is only if used as SLi ?
and in single card option you both didn't told me which KO/OC version I should take
8800GT or 9600 GT ? and BTW looking at prices if 8800GT is better then
Paranj - you suggested XFX 8800GTS 512MB . So which one is better? 8800GTS or 8800 GT . ( I guess I have read here in these forums only ..that notm uch diff is there and 8800 GT is better overall....)

keith_j_snyder2
29-05-2008, 07:00 AM
i have a Compaq A933TU laptop with Intel C2D 1.83Ghz processor and 2GB RAM.
Does this laptop supports any graphics card?
If yes plzzz recommend some along with their prices.

Here's (http://www.technewstime.com/hardware-news/rog-xg-station-external-graphics-card-by-asus) an option for u!

sonicspeed
29-05-2008, 07:09 AM
Thx SagarV... - just for info, I am not going for SLi right now. I was just thinking that I will buy a card now and after some time (read money ) get a one more copy to make it Sli. but anyways looks like going for newer version seems better option...

so 9600 GT is better than 8800 GT..? or that is only if used as SLi ?
and in single card option you both didn't told me which KO/OC version I should take
8800GT or 9600 GT ? and BTW looking at prices if 8800GT is better then
Paranj - you suggested XFX 8800GTS 512MB . So which one is better? 8800GTS or 8800 GT . ( I guess I have read here in these forums only ..that notm uch diff is there and 8800 GT is better overall....)

Sir new 8800gts(256bit) is better than 8800gt. it is even better than 8800gtx.
8800gt is better than 9600gt.

paranj
29-05-2008, 10:48 AM
@sonicspeed
speed dosent meet accuracy! 8800GTX and 8800Ultra are still beaen only by the 9800GX2. So please do some research and use ur head than post here. And as u did the chores of mentioning that 8800GTS is 256-bit memory than i may inform u that 8800GTX has a 384-bit memory interface

sagargv
29-05-2008, 11:40 AM
Thx SagarV... - just for info, I am not going for SLi right now. I was just thinking that I will buy a card now and after some time (read money ) get a one more copy to make it Sli. but anyways looks like going for newer version seems better option...

so 9600 GT is better than 8800 GT..? or that is only if used as SLi ?
and in single card option you both didn't told me which KO/OC version I should take
8800GT or 9600 GT ? and BTW looking at prices if 8800GT is better then
Paranj - you suggested XFX 8800GTS 512MB . So which one is better? 8800GTS or 8800 GT . ( I guess I have read here in these forums only ..that notm uch diff is there and 8800 GT is better overall....)

whether u want to go4 SLI in future is somthing u have to decide now. if u wanna go SLI in future , u have to buy a nvidia chipset based mobo . otherwise a p35 or x38 / x48 will be a better option . as i mentioned already , if u wanna go SLI do it now. .not much point in going for SLI for a older card after a newer card is released.

i gather that u wont go4 SLI . anyway , 9600GT SLI > 8800GT SLI . but single 8800GT > 9600GT .
a oced 8800GTS 512mb might beat a 8800GTX. not much point in discussing this though. ..

8800GTS WAS preferred over 8800GT mainly because of the better cooler in GTS than the improvement in speed. . if u buy a 8800GT with a good cooler ( which is available now . .at the time of introduction it was not so ) , u'll be saving more buck to get a better mobo. .

i would avoid XFX as these days it seems to have heating issues. . get 8800GT from evga / gigabyte . usually the card with the highest frequency is the one which is costlier . if u have enough money , get the one with highest frequency ( mem and core ) from evga ( contact theitwares or tirupathi peripherals ) . usually the pre-OCed cards have better coolers. . if there is a particular card that has zalman cooler or something like that , get it ..

PS

which ever card u get , make sure its 512mb gddr3 . . 256mb for 8800GT will be a bottleneck.

paranj
29-05-2008, 11:44 AM
hey XFX is gud

mandeep_m91
29-05-2008, 04:15 PM
SUBJECT: Is XFX 8600 GT a bad choice?


hello everyone..
I had made up my mind for this gpu card but got to know that it has got some heat issues( Read in the section "h/w you should not buy").:(:(:(
Now i am totally confused. Does the problem exists in Zebronix and other brands of 8600 GT also? If yes, then which card should i go for in same budget.


Ok sorry guys... Now i have read the post above which says i should go for ASUS 8600GT. thanks.
But i still wanna know wether the problem exists in Zebronix and EVGA also

sagargv
29-05-2008, 06:08 PM
no doubt . XFX is a reputed brand and makes high quality g-cards .. .but to keep their cards silent , they seem to have reduced the cooling effectiveness. . quite a lot of overheating complaints from 8800GT ( alpha dog ) and 8600GT ( i know it personally ) .

AFAIK , asus is silent and very cool . . evga has no issues with 8600GT .
i've seen most zebronics cards to be ddr2 . dont go4 them. but still , quite a lot of people feel the build quality of zebronics to be less than so .. i recommend asus / evga / msi . .

answer : XFX 8600GT is a very bad choice.

mastermunj
29-05-2008, 06:24 PM
what will be the limitations of 8600GT??

i am no graphics mad or animation geek.... am s/w developer and keen towards gaming..

though... my pc budget is 40K ... i am left out with only 5K for graphics card for which 8600GT is best fit...

but still, would like to know its limitation if it can make me re-think on my pc config or budget..

mandeep_m91
29-05-2008, 06:34 PM
@sagargv

most probably i will be going for MSI.
I have to make a choice between 512MB DDR2 and 256 MB DDR3.
which one is better?

nvidia
29-05-2008, 08:22 PM
^^Get the 256MB DDR3 version
8600GT cant make full use of 512MB and its DDR2 thats available which is slower.

Gigacore
29-05-2008, 08:36 PM
see this: http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=843132&postcount=1700 :D

sagargv
29-05-2008, 08:39 PM
@sagargv

most probably i will be going for MSI.
I have to make a choice between 512MB DDR2 and 256 MB DDR3.
which one is better?

as already answered , 256 mb gddr3 . . .

congratulations on ur purchase gigacore . .. 7300GT for 3.9 k ? is it second hand ? i suppose inc of tax means new card. .. good deal for a agp8x card . .

nvidia
29-05-2008, 08:40 PM
^^Congrats... :D
But why AGP?

paranj
29-05-2008, 09:13 PM
^^simple.... he dosent have a PCI-e slot

Gigacore
29-05-2008, 09:40 PM
@ sagar & nvidia. Thanks :D

Its not second hand, its brand new :D

Its AGP coz, I have a old mobo :D

The reason I bought the card is that i'm gonna buy 22" widescreen next month and my old card will not support 1680 x 1050 resolution :p

Cool G5
29-05-2008, 10:16 PM
Congrats Giga.
Me too bought the same card 2 weeks ago, due to lack of pci-e slot.
I don't want to upgrade my pc now. :D

paranj
29-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Cool didnt u tell me u had a 5950?

jerin3013
30-05-2008, 12:22 AM
5950????

paranj
30-05-2008, 12:41 AM
Nvidia FX 5950! there was a card like dat! time to dig the history!

desiibond
30-05-2008, 10:10 AM
@ sagar & nvidia. Thanks :D

Its not second hand, its brand new :D

Its AGP coz, I have a old mobo :D

The reason I bought the card is that i'm gonna buy 22" widescreen next month and my old card will not support 1680 x 1050 resolution :p


22"??? dude. comeon. Get a 24" and you will have advantage of FullHD playback. After all a monitor is something that lasts for years unlike any other PC component and with bluray drives price coming lower and lower, it's better to get a display that is FullHD ready.

paranj
30-05-2008, 10:20 AM
ya but what if he wants to play a game? With a LCD u need to stick to native resolution. Think a 7300gt can handle Call of Duty 4 at 1680x1050 ? or 1980x1080? i think no

With great LCDs comes great resolution (rip-off from the Spider-Man dialogue)

desiibond
30-05-2008, 10:25 AM
^^. It's a sweet trade off. You won't play the games 24x7. Moreover, I don't think it's a problem by playing games at a lower resolution. If you are ready for a 1680x1050 then you can definitely go for 1980x1080.

paranj
30-05-2008, 10:31 AM
no wont the games lag? and on a LCD only the natives look good otherwise its blurry shirt(****)

sagargv
30-05-2008, 10:47 AM
higher res is the trend. .you have to move with it. . .remember games like nfs3 around 2000 which offered resolutions like 320x240 as the least ? then 1024x768 was quite high while it is the minimum today. .

paranj
30-05-2008, 10:55 AM
ya true but with higher reso;utions u need a more powerful gfx card to play games

desiibond
30-05-2008, 11:09 AM
No. I don't think there will be blurring. Coz I played NFS Prostreet, Company of Heroes at non-native resolution and there was no visible blurring.

anyways, I will test it out again today with few more setting and will let you know. I think at a lower resolution, increasing the frame rate will fix any issues.

paranj
30-05-2008, 11:26 AM
ok u win. but will you do me a favour, go do some research(i am not mocking u,just trying to prove the fact!)

desiibond
30-05-2008, 12:27 PM
^^lol. Yes. there will be loss of quality at non-native resolution. but you can do a 1:1 pixel mapping while playing games. This way, the visible area is reduced. You can just search for the pixel mapping procedures available for your monitor.

paranj
30-05-2008, 12:34 PM
gud. thats true but still ur not using the best of what the LCD has to give, are u? Why not pay more, get more?

desiibond
30-05-2008, 12:43 PM
as I said earlier, gaming is not all that is to be looked at while buying an LCD.

Now, lot of bluray movies are coming, many are already availble on the internet, Reliance, dish, tata are all readying fullHD satellite TV service. Imaging Vista at FullHD resuolution. Why should we then stat away from the fullHD display just because we can't play few games in fullHD resolution. You don't play games all round the clock, you have to option of 1:1 pixel mapping or to reduce the visible area while playing game.

paranj
30-05-2008, 12:46 PM
^^yup, u make a point. But see, more ppl own Crysis than a Blu-Ray muvie! Proves my point but urs make more sense. Cheers mate!

dOm1naTOr
30-05-2008, 01:08 PM
hi guys
read on
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/29/nvidia-gt200-sucessor-tapes
The GT280 will be for $649 !!!!!

paranj
30-05-2008, 01:11 PM
@d0m1naTOr

thanks and furck them. They cost a arm and leg. No probs with me though. My next upgrade will surely be this!

sagargv
30-05-2008, 02:02 PM
i dont trust that inquirer. .

dOm1naTOr
30-05-2008, 03:15 PM
xbitlabs also has the same news
also read this
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14822
xbits news redirects to this link

andysmith45
31-05-2008, 07:09 PM
never heard of any issues with the MSI 8600GT card. Your PSU should be more than enough and I think it can even manage two 8600GT's.

Unfortunately, I could only find MSI 8600GT (512 MB, DDR2). But the 256 MB GDDR3 version of Palit and Sparkle are available. Which ones should I go for? R there any issues with the 8600 GT (256 MB, GDDR3) cards from palit & sparkle especially regarding heat and fan noise? Btw, how much does Asus 8600GT (256 MB, GDDR3) cost?

paranj
31-05-2008, 07:12 PM
I say go for Sparkle. They are more cooler and as said before there is a problem of over-heating but is solved in the Sparkle version I THINK. Asus EN8600GT is the fastest 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 in the market. it shud cost around 900-1k more! I say its a steal of a buy. Go for Sparkle over Palit and Asus over both of them. Asus>Sparkle>Palit

sagargv
31-05-2008, 09:27 PM
i hear that palit sonic cards are very cool . . .one of my frends got a sparkle 8400GS but it certainly wasnt cool .. went to the 80s easily. .. asus is very cool definitely. .if its a palit sonic , go4 it.

paranj
31-05-2008, 09:29 PM
^^Nope i say Sparkle. But lets not f8 and take a look at some reviews, see whos the best and go for it!

sagargv
31-05-2008, 11:14 PM
ok. . thanks for correcting me. . i havent seen any reviews of sparkle vs. palit .. any links will be of help.

paranj
31-05-2008, 11:21 PM
^^no problemo :D

mayanksharma
01-06-2008, 12:35 AM
I say go for Sparkle. They are more cooler and as said before there is a problem of over-heating but is solved in the Sparkle version I THINK. Asus EN8600GT is the fastest 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 in the market. it shud cost around 900-1k more! I say its a steal of a buy. Go for Sparkle over Palit and Asus over both of them. Asus>Sparkle>Palit
Fastest? I doubt that buddy. XFX 8600GT Fatality and Palit 8600GT Sonic+ are still the fastest 8600GT models in the market. Coming to their availability, thats a different point. However, i still feel that vanilla XFX 8600GT is an amazing card. Yep, heating issues with UDF7 models. But that doesnt make a reputed brand like XFX look bad! IMO, its still one of the best. :) I am using that "electric stove"(as called by many! :p) model of 8600GT, i.e. UDF7 model! One year already, and the card is still reliable! Overclocks amazingly! Regarding, the heating issue...i just applied AS5! And the card hasnt crossed 85 degrees, even under the maximum stress.... since than! Not bad for such a model! :p
All in all, 8600GT is available for 5.5K these days! Brands like MSI/Palit/XFX offer better options. MSI 8600GT 256MB DDR3 model is seldom in N.P. However, 512MB DDR2 is available.

Sandeepfrompune
01-06-2008, 03:10 AM
whats diff between DDR3 and GDDR3 ?
should the new ppl go for GDDR3 necessarily ?

paranj
01-06-2008, 08:01 AM
^^DDR3 refers to RAM memory. And I mean the system RAM. Its only used there. GDDR memory is used in GPU RAM. GDDR5 is also out but noone uses more than GDDR3.

Arsenal_Gunners
01-06-2008, 08:24 PM
I want to buy Geforce 8600.
I would like to know the latest prices of both GT and GTS models.(I can get XFX or Sparkle so it would be awesome if I can get all the prices)

Edit:I read in some previous posts that XFX has some problems.Should I go with Sparkle?

sagargv
01-06-2008, 08:40 PM
^^ go4 asus / evga / msi 8600GT with gddr3 memory. . dont go4 ddr2 models even if its 512mb .

@paranj , still waiting for reviews which indicate sparkle is better than palit.

paranj
01-06-2008, 09:11 PM
^ya becuz Palit is not as famous THOUGH its one of the best companies!

@Arsenal_Gunners (though Arsenal sux and ManU rules)

as u claim XFX does have sum problem and that is over-heating. Did u ever hear abt the XFX 8600GT Electric Stove Version? Nope? Just browse this thread! Go for ASUS EN8600GT 256MB GDDR3

Arsenal_Gunners
01-06-2008, 09:15 PM
It would be good if someone post the prices of all these versions of 8600 or provide a link to it.

paranj
01-06-2008, 09:17 PM
ASUS EN8600GT costs around 6800 - 7200. Confirmation? but its around that mark.

sagargv
01-06-2008, 09:40 PM
7200 bucks for 8600GT aint worth it. . make it 9k and get 9600GT and u'll get double the performance . .

palit may not be all that popular in india , but that doesnt mean that it makes bad cards. . XFX is very popular and look at its 8600GT . . .lets not get biased by popularity .. and pailt AFAIK is a known brand internationally. . and frankly , sparkle aint a top brand like XFX , is it ?

lets not continue this discussion as its quite pointless. most manufacturers stick to the reference design. . so whatever manufacturer u pick , make sure its got good cooling. .

palit sonic cards have good coolers i felt . .
look at palit 9600GT sonic temps.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/666/14/

i havent been able to find 8600 reviews yet .. .

BTW , why not go4 evga ?
http://theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm
this seems to be a good deal . ..

EDIT - found a palit 8600GT OCing review . http://sg.vr-zone.com/articles/First_Look_at_Overclocking_the_8600GT%21/4925-3.html
although temps aint given , if its OCing that well . .unOCed temps must be damn low and OCed temps within limits. .

paranj
01-06-2008, 10:08 PM
Did i say Palit aint good.? And sure Sparkle's no match for XFX. I myself own a XFX card. And it does make much more sense to get a XFX 9600GT than spending 7k on a 70% slower 8600GT :D u got that r8:D

nvidia
02-06-2008, 03:48 PM
as u claim XFX does have sum problem and that is over-heating. Did u ever hear abt the XFX 8600GT Electric Stove Version? Nope? Just browse this thread! Go for ASUS EN8600GT 256MB GDDR3
I'm the proud owner of the electric stove version of the 8600GT:D :p


7200 bucks for 8600GT aint worth it. . make it 9k and get 9600GT and u'll get double the performance . .

+1
There is no point in paying 7.2k for an 8600GT now. Its best to increase budget and go for the 9600GT or wait for a price cut. 8600GT is history now and its an entry-level graphics card.

ssk_the_gr8
02-06-2008, 03:57 PM
I want to buy Geforce 8600.
I would like to know the latest prices of both GT and GTS models.(I can get XFX or Sparkle so it would be awesome if I can get all the prices)

Edit:I read in some previous posts that XFX has some problems.Should I go with Sparkle?

I'd say go with MSI cuz their cards are generally good & dont have any problems.. Have u thought abt ATi..

nvidia
02-06-2008, 03:58 PM
^^I dont think there is any ATi card which offers the same performance at a cheaper price...
But whoever is buying 8600GT should stay away from XFX.

sagargv
02-06-2008, 05:47 PM
^^ did u get ur electric stove replaced ?

mayanksharma
02-06-2008, 07:31 PM
hmm...may be that boy is thinking "Electric Stove" as some sort of specific 8600GT model!! :p :D Ok, lemme clear this. XFX 8600GT UDF7 is famous due to its amazing heating capability! Even @ idle, the card is capable of producing 50-55 degrees of heat! :D :D So, u can very well imagine its capabilities @ load!! Around the globe, there are many claiming to have touched 88 or even 90 degrees!
Even we have our own raining xfx 8600GT owner, claiming beyond 100 degrees of Celsius!!! :D :D Isnt that gr8? Due to such spectacular capabilities of UDF7 model...it was inevitable that the card got its own name! And so, the proud owners of XFX 8600GT UDF7 models begin calling the legend as "Electric Stove" 8600GT!
And yeah...u can boil the water at 100 degrees !! :D :D hehe...

@sagargv,
when i got mine, i talked to XFX directly! However, after few months of usage, i realized that besides heating, the card has got some potential also! Plus, except increase in temperature...nothing bad happened. No hangups no crashes no restarts! It was perfectly alright. But yep, this all was, when card was under 80-85 degrees! Beyond that...funnier things happen. So, i went for few cooling solutions. And even today, its working fine! :)

nvidia
02-06-2008, 08:32 PM
^^ did u get ur electric stove replaced ?
Yeah.. Im gonna get it replaced.. I told my vendor about it and he said he'll get it replaced..


Even we have our own raining xfx 8600GT owner, claiming beyond 100 degrees of Celsius!!!
Thats me... 109C is the temperature attained while running 3-d mark triangle test with the default fan on the card + 2 fans on the sides of the cabinet.

sagargv
02-06-2008, 09:24 PM
Yeah.. Im gonna get it replaced.. I told my vendor about it and he said he'll get it replaced..


Thats me... 109C is the temperature attained while running 3-d mark triangle test with the default fan on the card + 2 fans on the sides of the cabinet.

i think u should goto rashi directly. . my vendor could not get the replacement. . but rashi gave it in 3-4 days time only because they were out of stock . .otherwise , i would have got immediate replacement. .

hmm...may be that boy is thinking "Electric Stove" as some sort of specific 8600GT model!! :p :D Ok, lemme clear this. XFX 8600GT UDF7 is famous due to its amazing heating capability! Even @ idle, the card is capable of producing 50-55 degrees of heat! :D :D So, u can very well imagine its capabilities @ load!! Around the globe, there are many claiming to have touched 88 or even 90 degrees!
Even we have our own raining xfx 8600GT owner, claiming beyond 100 degrees of Celsius!!! :D :D Isnt that gr8? Due to such spectacular capabilities of UDF7 model...it was inevitable that the card got its own name! And so, the proud owners of XFX 8600GT UDF7 models begin calling the legend as "Electric Stove" 8600GT!
And yeah...u can boil the water at 100 degrees !! :D :D hehe...

@sagargv,
when i got mine, i talked to XFX directly! However, after few months of usage, i realized that besides heating, the card has got some potential also! Plus, except increase in temperature...nothing bad happened. No hangups no crashes no restarts! It was perfectly alright. But yep, this all was, when card was under 80-85 degrees! Beyond that...funnier things happen. So, i went for few cooling solutions. And even today, its working fine! :)

what potential has the card got ? what funnier things ?

u speak in riddles. . even i had that udf7 model . . idle - 62C . load . max i saw 105C. . no crashes . .but i got it replaced. .

mayanksharma
03-06-2008, 12:06 AM
^^riddles? Ohh..sorry for those words then! I thought, u would have understand! You got ur card replaced! So, urs is UDF3 now??
What potential?? Well, the card overclocks amazingly than other typical 8600GT models!! I think thats not enough for u! And by funnier things...i meant behaving as its not supposed to!! :p Btw, mine is still UDF7, and in the last post..i mentioned everything about my card! I dont know...where are the riddles??

andysmith45
03-06-2008, 12:42 AM
Unfortunately, I could only find MSI 8600GT (512 MB, DDR2). But the 256 MB GDDR3 version of Palit and Sparkle are available. Which ones should I go for? R there any issues with the 8600 GT (256 MB, GDDR3) cards from palit & sparkle especially regarding heat and fan noise? Btw, how much does Asus 8600GT (256 MB, GDDR3) cost?

MSI 8600GT (512 MB DDR2) is available for Rs 4400/- while I can order MSI 8600GT-T2D (256 MB, GDDR3) for Rs. 6,188/- inclusive of all taxes. Sparkle 8600GT (256 MB, GDDR3) is available with another dealer for Rs 5100/-. Another dealer (within walking distance from my house) is offering Simmtronics 8600GT (256 MB. GDDR3) for Rs. 5700/- & he says that palit 8600GT (256 MB, GDDR3) will cost slightly more. I don't know if it is the sonic version but I doubt it.

I am still confuse. Assuming I don't get the MSI 8600GT (256 MB, GDDR3); should I go for palit (non-sonic version) or sparkle or for the MSI gfx with 512 MB DDR2 for only 4400/-. How much diff. in performance is there anyway between 256 MB GDDR3 & the 512 MB DDR2 version of 8600GT?

Does any among the msi, palit, simmtronics & sparkle 8600 GT req. a PCI-E power connector? I have heard that the palit 8600GT is a dual-slot card, wat does this mean?

ASUS EN8600GT costs around 6800 - 7200. Confirmation? but its around that mark.

Does Asus 8600GT (256 MB, GDDR3) really cost that much? If it does, then it is too expensive for me.

Arsenal_Gunners
03-06-2008, 12:54 AM
There is no point in paying 7.2k for an 8600GT now. Its best to increase budget and go for the 9600GT or wait for a price cut. 8600GT is history now and its an entry-level graphics card.
Not possible.I don't have enough Power Supply and PCI 2.0.:(

paranj
03-06-2008, 12:58 AM
Price change - The XFX 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 costs around 5900 only :D :D not joking. My friend got it yesterday:)

neelu09
03-06-2008, 02:39 AM
i also planning to buy a 8600GT.......but what brand(same prob. as andy)

mayanksharma
03-06-2008, 03:09 AM
@andy & neelu,
A GDDR3 always performs better than a DDR2! Same applies with GPUs also. Hence, at all costs, make sure to go for a 8600GT with DDR3 chips! If MSI 8600GT with DDR3 is available...then go for it! :) its good! And 8600GT doesnt require external supply!
A dual slot design means that the fan takes an additional expansion slot inside your system. For standard single card systems this will likely not be a problem. However, for gamers that are running dual cards in Crossfire mode, the dual slot designs takes up the extra available space! All in all, the design is quite good for GPU and keep it cool during operation! :)
Yes, Palit 8600GT Super and Sonic models are dual slot cards! And yep...credits to the nice performing Zalman Cooler on the GPUs!
And lastly, if none of them are available, then go with XFX! :D
By the way, going with 8600GT at such point of time...doesnt make sense! IMO, try saving some, wait and simply go for 9600GT! A far better option!

keith_j_snyder2
03-06-2008, 06:51 AM
Guys! The month ahead is going to be the month of Graphics cards. There will be some high end and some low end graphics cards for everyone . So choose wisely!

desiibond
03-06-2008, 09:08 AM
Price change - The XFX 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 costs around 5900 only :D :D not joking. My friend got it yesterday:)

Is this a revised edition. Can you also check the temperatures?? Looks like they have now added a high end cooling fan and increased the cost. Anyways, 8600gt for 6k is not a good option when you are have 9600 avaialable for 8k ( price certainly going to come down in few weeks)

sagargv
03-06-2008, 09:36 AM
@arsenal_gunners , pcie 2.0 slot aint a problem . .9600GT will work fine with no performance loss in a pcie 1.1 slot which u have . .but psu will be a problem . .

pay nothing more than 5k for a 8600GT as others have suggested. .

@andysmith45 , if u want to buy locally and these are the only options u have . best bet is sparkle 8600GT gddr3 for 5.1k .
i think u should contact theitwares ( Mr. Rahul ) and order a evga 8600GT 256mb gddr3 for 5k. paying 6k for a better cooler on a 8600GT is pointless.


And for those low on budget , the palit 8600GT 256mb gddr3 has been quoted for 4k in theitwares which makes it a sweet deal .. i dont think its the sonic version , but its worth a look . .

paranj
03-06-2008, 09:57 AM
@dessibond - dunno if its the new edition or not! XFX 9600GT is the cheapest right now. Rs.9300. GPUs are getting dirt cheap now a days:D

Arsenal_Gunners
03-06-2008, 02:34 PM
I just inquired the rates and found that Palit 8600GT is Rs.4400.Is that a fair rate,I told the guy to confirm if it is GDDR3,I am not sure.
Sorry for acting dumb but I have been out of touch with GFX cards for a long time and there are too many brands and models avaiable:p

Edit: Is 400W power supply enough for 9600GT?

sagargv
03-06-2008, 03:53 PM
^^ ( @arsenal_gunners )if u can put a bit more money , get evga / msi 8600GT .. i'm not saying palit is a bad brand .. havent seen palit 8600GT in action . .no idea how it is. ..

400W is enough for a 9600GT but not a local 400W . .something from cooler master or antec or corsair rated 400W will suffice but not the local zebronics 400W. . i recommend atleast a cooler master 600W for 3.2k for a 9600GT or 8800GT.

neelu09
03-06-2008, 04:07 PM
is 300 watt psu enough for 8600GT/9600GT...................

^^ if u can put a bit more money , get evga / msi 8600GT .. i'm not saying palit is a bad brand .. havent seen palit 8600GT in action . .no idea how it is. ..

400W is enough for a 9600GT but not a local 400W . .something from cooler master or antec or corsair rated 400W will suffice but not the local zebronics 400W. . i recommend atleast a cooler master 600W for 3.2k for a 9600GT or 8800GT.

in that case i will wait and get a new PC

desiibond
03-06-2008, 04:21 PM
no 300W is not good for this card. Not just the wattage but the voltage also will not be sufficient.

andysmith45
04-06-2008, 04:06 AM
@arsenal_gunners , pcie 2.0 slot aint a problem . .9600GT will work fine with no performance loss in a pcie 1.1 slot which u have . .but psu will be a problem . .

pay nothing more than 5k for a 8600GT as others have suggested. .

@andysmith45 , if u want to buy locally and these are the only options u have . best bet is sparkle 8600GT gddr3 for 5.1k .
i think u should contact theitwares ( Mr. Rahul ) and order a evga 8600GT 256mb gddr3 for 5k. paying 6k for a better cooler on a 8600GT is pointless.


And for those low on budget , the palit 8600GT 256mb gddr3 has been quoted for 4k in theitwares which makes it a sweet deal .. i dont think its the sonic version , but its worth a look . .


What's the quality of sparkle cards like? For non-passively cooled Sparkle 8600GT models and non-sonic Palit models, I still don't know if they heat up a lot or not and whether their noise decibels r within acceptable range.

paranj
04-06-2008, 12:58 PM
All 8600GT are silent enogh to bare. And for that matter all NVIDIA cards:D ATi is the only bad guys here:D

topgear
04-06-2008, 01:05 PM
^^DDR3 refers to RAM memory. And I mean the system RAM. Its only used there. GDDR memory is used in GPU RAM. GDDR5 is also out but noone uses more than GDDR3.

Sapphire HD3870 512MB GDDR4
MSI RX3870XT 512MB GDDR4
Sapphire HD 2600XT 256MB GDDR4
GeCube RX3870XT 512 MB GDDR4

http://www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm

paranj
04-06-2008, 01:26 PM
topgear, did i say GDDR4 and 5 are not usable? i know they are used. If u dont know than there X1950 versions of GDDR4 from ASUS and like :-P

piyush2202
04-06-2008, 08:55 PM
I wanted to buy a 8 series card in a budget range of about 6k. I am looking at the 8600GT mostly. Please suggest some good brands and also another card in the same range with better power.

nvidia
04-06-2008, 09:04 PM
If you are buying the 8600GT, then buy the Asus 8600GT. Stay away from XFX, its got a lo of heating issues.

piyush2202
04-06-2008, 09:06 PM
If you are buying the 8600GT, then buy the Asus 8600GT. Stay away from XFX, its got a lo of heating issues.

What is the current price of the Asus en8600GT?? How would Palit be??

paranj
04-06-2008, 09:10 PM
ASUS as much as heard is near 6.0k and Palit is around the same :)

nvidia
04-06-2008, 09:12 PM
^^But isnt Asus better in performance than Palit?

paranj
04-06-2008, 09:12 PM
its the fastest

nvidia
04-06-2008, 09:14 PM
Which?

j1n M@tt
04-06-2008, 09:17 PM
Palit Sonic series is gud......some of the eVGA cards r manufactured by Palit.....but there r some pretty bad models from Palit which fools customers by givin 1GB GDDR1 RAMs instead of 256GDDR3......

nvidia
04-06-2008, 09:27 PM
^^Even 1 GB of GDDR3 RAM in 8600GT is of no use afaik.. The core cant make use of that much RAM..

j1n M@tt
04-06-2008, 09:30 PM
AFAIF.....I know dat dude..........dats wat I said they fool custmers......read the post well before u reply plz

paranj
04-06-2008, 10:17 PM
ASUS is a more reputed and trusted company than Palit and IMO go with ASUS EN8600 GT 256MB GDDR3 or theres always an option to buy 2x9800GX2 and be happy:D

mayanksharma
05-06-2008, 01:20 AM
ASUS is a more reputed and trusted company than Palit
U got any points to prove that??? Did you have any experience with Palit products?? If u dont, then please dont comment on it.
IMO, Palit is nice for what it is giving!
See, its ok, u can suggest GPU to anyone. Just, dont make it look like endorsing a product! Look, bro..dont take it otherwise. You cant force someone towards one product or brand. What if, everyone start saying their products as best? ehhh..?
But, yep..please share your experiences with ur product. That'll help others, take decisions easily. :)

paranj
05-06-2008, 08:56 AM
^^Well if thats what you want. ASUS as much as i have used is a masterpiece. but the ASUS which i have used was the FX5200 so lolz:D But still ASUS is going good and Digit has given its EN8600GT 256MB GDDR3 version the Best Buy. I dont know about Palit as i have not used it but the Zalman cooler on Sonic+ looks tempting. I have a XFX product now the XFX 8800GT 512MB Alpha Dog Edition but i wont recommand the XFX 8600GT as it has over-heating problems. This proves my point that I DONT SAY THAT THE PRODUCTS WHICH I BUY ARE THE BEST. :)

desiibond
05-06-2008, 10:46 AM
BTW, XFX 8800 GS alpha dog edition is now available for some 8k.

pratik03
05-06-2008, 04:42 PM
Palit Sonic series is gud......some of the eVGA cards r manufactured by Palit.....but there r some pretty bad models from Palit which fools customers by givin 1GB GDDR1 RAMs instead of 256GDDR3......

i don't think palit manufactures cards for eVGA

mastermunj
05-06-2008, 04:43 PM
BTW, XFX 8800 GS alpha dog edition is now available for some 8k.

any link desii??

and wat will be its performance compared to 9600GT??

desiibond
05-06-2008, 04:49 PM
theitdepot.com

mastermunj
05-06-2008, 05:53 PM
^^ any idea about its performance when compared with 9600GT??

paranj
05-06-2008, 06:06 PM
9600>8800 Always:d

pratik03
05-06-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm going to buy EVGA 9600gt superclocked or Ko tomorrow.
My system config is Athlon X2 4200+ asus m2avm 2gb corsair ddr2 677mhz ram
Will this card give me at least 30fps in crysis all setting high(not very high) @ 1440x900

paranj
05-06-2008, 06:11 PM
nope. Need atleast a 8800GTS 512MB to play smoothly with 30FPS at all high. That game is $hit. :(

mastermunj
05-06-2008, 06:31 PM
thanks paranj!! so i will stick to 9600GT only :D

pratik03
05-06-2008, 06:46 PM
nope. Need atleast a 8800GTS 512MB to play smoothly with 30FPS at all high. That game is $hit. :(

8800gts is well out of my budget.
so what will be the average fps i get with 9600gt

topgear
05-06-2008, 08:16 PM
topgear, did i say GDDR4 and 5 are not usable? i know they are used. If u dont know than there X1950 versions of GDDR4 from ASUS and like :-P

No you haven't said that GDDR4 is not usable but you have said that none uses more than GDDR3. So I mentioned of some gfx cards makers who uses GDDR4.

Afaik, I already know that GDDR4 is used by ASUS on x1950 based cards. Read it about on Digit Oct 2007 Issue :D

noone uses more than GDDR3.

paranj
05-06-2008, 08:42 PM
ya now leave that point :)

mayanksharma
06-06-2008, 12:44 AM
@paranj,
yep, truly said buddy! Palit is not that popular as Asus and MSI in here. However, their products are excellent. Digit reviews those hardwares, which are made available to the labs! As i already mentioned that Palit isnt readily available in here. But sooner or later..it'll suffice!! :)

paranj
06-06-2008, 07:39 AM
I Love thier cooler's :D

desiibond
06-06-2008, 09:31 AM
9600>8800 Always:d

Dude. Please.

8800GT is far better than 9600GT.

Please don't give suggestions based on your thoughts. Do the research.

the fps difference between 9600GT and 8800gt while playing games like Crysis is 10+.

You can't even play crysis at 1680x1050 reso with 9600GT (full eye candy on). It gives shitty 15-18fps. Even here, 8800GT gives 35+fps.

The higher the resolution is and the more eye candy, the more the difference is in fps.

YOu can't even compare 8800GT with 9600GT.

paranj
06-06-2008, 09:52 AM
^^I SAID THAT 8800GT IS BETTER THAN 9600GT AND U UNDERSTOOD THE REVERSE. huh! thats not right. dont go yelling at me. 8800GT is better any day than 9600GT. :(

ionicsachin
06-06-2008, 10:37 AM
at low resolutions....around 1280 and below....9600GT beats 8800GT....
at higher resolutions 8800GT rulz....luv 8800GTs power...great VFM

paranj
06-06-2008, 10:41 AM
i have the 8800GT ,its good :)

desiibond
06-06-2008, 10:47 AM
^^I SAID THAT 8800GT IS BETTER THAN 9600GT AND U UNDERSTOOD THE REVERSE. huh! thats not right. dont go yelling at me. 8800GT is better any day than 9600GT. :(

lolz. lolz. 9600GT>8800GT means 8800GT is better. lolz. lolz.

paranj
06-06-2008, 11:27 AM
that was a typo :(

topgear
06-06-2008, 12:04 PM
8800 GT sports with double the amount of streaming processors as compared to 9600 GT under it's hood. :D
This is the real reason why 8800 GT is more powerful than 9600 GT :D

paranj
06-06-2008, 12:08 PM
^^Its given in Digit :|

mastermunj
06-06-2008, 02:40 PM
Which 9600GT to buy??

EVGA 9600GT Super Clocked?
EVGA 9600GT Knock Out?
MSI 9600GT OC Edition??
Palit 9600GT - Sonic??

paranj
06-06-2008, 02:45 PM
EVGA 9600GT KO

Best of the lot IMO :)

mastermunj
06-06-2008, 03:26 PM
thanks paranj!

piyush2202
06-06-2008, 09:10 PM
I want a decent card which can play most games at decent resolutions. Some thing that would do justice to latest games.

I have a budget of Rs.6000. I have heard that the 8600GT and the 9600GT are good GPUs. Which are the good brands that would fit my budget for these 2 chipsets??

mastermunj
06-06-2008, 09:11 PM
8600GT is in ur budget.. around 5.4k
but if u can raise it to 9.3k go for 9600GT..

am also doing same piyush... am buying it tomorrow itself...

paranj
06-06-2008, 09:19 PM
ASUS EN8600GT 256MB for 6.5k

mayanksharma
07-06-2008, 01:12 AM
As someone mentioned in his thread that Palit 9600GSO is available for 6K! And if it is...then it should be a good deal. Btw, just confirm its availability before going for it.

johnjjx
07-06-2008, 02:27 AM
Mercury 86gt 256mb ddr3 3k
Palit 9600gso 384mb 6.2k ;-)

kratos5589
07-06-2008, 02:34 AM
now that i am building a mediocre gaming rig with da most efficient mid price range powerful graphics card available in da market.,i.e , the 8800gt.
i hv to choose da card and i m quite confused which one 2 buy

i can either buy :-
gigabyte 8800gt oc edition (comes wid a zalman cooler)
msi 8800gt oc edition (some say it comes wid a zalman cooler too i dunno)
or just
non oc edition of msi 8800 gt or any other company u can preffer

(u may suggest frm EVGA or XFX)
though agent 001 suggested gigabyte's 8800gt in the may edition
but i want to make sure he went through to check these cards as well

plz give reasonable facts 2 support ur ans
or da pros & cons of some of da graphics card u know about
u can suggest some good links if they can help

plz people i dont wanna get wrong on dis
thnx fer reading this
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johnjjx
07-06-2008, 02:41 AM
^Both r gud. New msi model is better.;-)

desiibond
07-06-2008, 11:28 AM
Go for the gigabyte edition with zallman cooler. There will be lot of scope for overclocking. For the MSI OC edition, just check the model number in their site. They do mention that it has Zallman cooler if it has.

I would rather go for non-OC'ed card and OC on my own than getting factory OC'ed card. Zallman cooler is a must for insane OC'ing.

monkey
07-06-2008, 02:11 PM
I would think of EVGA 8800GT Akimbo SC. The card is already factory overclocked by a good margin and has decent cooler. Buying factory oveclocked cards also saves you on warranty which becomes invalid if you manually overclock a card.

pratik03
07-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Is 9600GSO available in india

monkey
07-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Is 9600GSO available in india

Yes. Palit 9600 GSO Sonic is for around 6.6k

pratik03
07-06-2008, 03:30 PM
^^ that's great price

any EVGA 9600GSO available

kratos5589
07-06-2008, 08:00 PM
Go for the gigabyte edition with zallman cooler. There will be lot of scope for overclocking. For the MSI OC edition, just check the model number in their site. They do mention that it has Zallman cooler if it has.

I would rather go for non-OC'ed card and OC on my own than getting factory OC'ed card. Zallman cooler is a must for insane OC'ing.



man u got me even more confused
and wat is that ocing of an already oced card
is it possible & should it be done
& 1 more thing as i hc an MSI P7n Platinum SLI mobo ,should i go for a MSI g card
Plz reply

nvidia
07-06-2008, 08:30 PM
^^Having an MSI motherboard and having an MSI card wont increase performance AFAIK..

kratos5589
08-06-2008, 08:31 PM
so which g card should i go for man
plz anyone help

johnjjx
08-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Msi 8800gt oc with zalman cooler

gulgulumaal
08-06-2008, 09:03 PM
Guys, how's the Mercury 8600GT....heard that it's available for 3K. Is it a good buy?
If it's available for 3K, how come people are buying other brands like XFX for much higher price?

dOm1naTOr
08-06-2008, 09:07 PM
Asus 8600GT is for 6.5~7k!!!!!!
more than twice!!.
Mercur 8600GT too comes with GRRD3 and 3yrs warranty. I dun think the oc potential of Asus is worth that 4k xtra. A 9600GSO for 6.5k makes a lot better buy than Asus 8600GT.

@gulgulumaal (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=29636)
but its only less than a month or so, that the mercury began to ship it for cheap[3.2k]. The cheapest ones available before was XFX and POV for arounf 4.5k

gulgulumaal
08-06-2008, 09:14 PM
Asus 8600GT is for 6.5~7k!!!!!!
more than twice!!.
Mercur 8600GT too comes with GRRD3 and 3yrs warranty. I dun think the oc potential of Asus is worth that 4k xtra. A 9600GSO for 6.5k makes a lot better buy than Asus 8600GT.

@gulgulumaal (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=29636)
but its only less than a month or so, that the mercury began to ship it for cheap[3.2k]. The cheapest ones available before was XFX and POV for arounf 4.5k

Cool...then I think Mercury 8600GT wud be the perfect choice for a budget gamer (like me). Am currently running an 8400GS, but if 8600 is this cheap, I'll buy one and gift the 8400GS to my bro :)

pratik03
08-06-2008, 09:35 PM
Mercury 8600GT @ 3.2k is excellent buy

but what about its availability

gulgulumaal
08-06-2008, 09:39 PM
Mercury 8600GT @ 3.2k is excellent buy

but what about its availability

No clue...does anyone know if it's available in trivandrum ?

shivg33k
08-06-2008, 10:55 PM
Guys, give me some advice regarding this
which is good, MSI 8800 GT OC edition (with zalman cooler)
or XFX 8800 GT Alpha Dog Edition.
I also wanted to know that does XFX 8800 GT ALpha Dog Edition has some serious heating problem, but it costs around 12.2 K and comes with some game bundled with it.

What does MSI bundle include (apart from Zalman cooler), does it have heating issues as XFX's. Please mention also mention the current price if possible.

paranj
08-06-2008, 10:58 PM
who told u Alpha Dog Edition from XFX has heating issue? i own it and its good. It dosent bundle with any game. I suggest the OC edition from MSI as its factory OCed. Sure u can OC it urself but will void warraty. So factory OCed is better:)

sagargv
08-06-2008, 11:08 PM
^^ there have been a few overheating complaints with regard to xfx 8800GT alpha dog.

mukherjee
08-06-2008, 11:15 PM
well....its time i upgraded my graphix card....

i cant decide whther to go for 9600Gt or 8800GT....I will go for factory overclocked tho....
Max budget is Rs.13k.

i m frm Kolkata.

i hv shortlisted MSI & XFx, but i m not sure whether eVGA is available in this area:(:(...

Plz extend me ur views....what model shud i go for....
512MB it will be, And factory overclocked....

but which models?

plz repl...quick if u plz :)

PS. Also throw in the prices frndz....

pratik03
08-06-2008, 11:18 PM
^^EVGA 8800GT KO
factory overclocked (best 8800GT available)

paranj
08-06-2008, 11:21 PM
right^^ try the MSI 8800GT OC too! Its good but EVGA has more clock frequency but this has a cooler :D

mukherjee
08-06-2008, 11:26 PM
right^^ try the MSI 8800GT OC too! Its good but EVGA has more clock frequency but this has a cooler :D


Well,coolll!!!

but bro,wat abt the prices???

And abt the MSi...their site talks nothin abt the zalman cooler and all!!!!:( :|

paranj
08-06-2008, 11:28 PM
dunno much abt the cost, ask around the Hardware Prices and Quotes thread :)

pratik03
09-06-2008, 12:21 AM
MSI 8800GT OC available for Rs 11500/-

keith_j_snyder2
09-06-2008, 07:06 AM
Buy the 8800GT with Seaweed Blade Cooler, much beeter cooling, though acquires some space but its worthy!

Ashutosh Malik
09-06-2008, 04:36 PM
Hi all,
can u suggest me the GPU for following configuration pc:
MB: Intel dg965ry
Pro: Intel pentium d 3.4 (Dual core)
RAM: 2 GB (667)

my budget is: 6000/-

paranj
09-06-2008, 04:43 PM
^asus En8600gt 256mb Gddr3

Ashutosh Malik
09-06-2008, 04:49 PM
^asus En8600gt 256mb Gddr3

Thanks 4 reply,
Can U Pls. tell me any 512 mb card.

paranj
09-06-2008, 05:46 PM
no 512MB until the 9600GT will have GDDR3 memory. and cards lesser than 9600GT 512MB which have 512MB memory performs slower than 256MB GDDR3 because they will have GDDR2. In short, get the 256MB version of ANY 8600GT card. if u want 512MB than get a XFX 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 for 9.2k

debasis.samantaray@gmail.
09-06-2008, 05:48 PM
Can I play Call of duty 4 in a budget of 4/5k graphics card
I have a laptop having ATI Redeon mobilty x300 can I play COD4 with it

hey Paranj would you like to answer my quetions

desiibond
09-06-2008, 05:56 PM
^^ Yes. you should be able to but it will be pathetically slow. Better not play it at that low settings.

topgear
09-06-2008, 07:17 PM
^^Its given in Digit :|

But not in this forum. So I've mentioned it :D

johnjjx
09-06-2008, 07:41 PM
@dominator Mercury 8600gt is 2.85k but doesnt cme with 3yrs wrrnty. Its only 1yr. Mercury is tryin to regain its name. Btw d crd is made by ECS.:-)

P.s. Hav a leadtek 7950gt extreme edition, new rmad piece fr 4k in bazaar for sale.

P.s. Hav a leadtek 7950gt extreme edition, new rmad piece fr 4k in bazaar for sale.

paranj
09-06-2008, 09:36 PM
Hey guys i was just reading the first page of the thread, they wee recommanding a 6600GT for 11K =-O oOO it cant even run Crysis:D

mayanksharma
09-06-2008, 11:28 PM
^^ 6600GT was a legend of its times. IMO, a perfect X600 card for that particular period.
And atleast boast a good comparison..! Where does Crysis come in the scene? :p
Remember Doom3..? Both 6600GT and 6800GT were recommended!
8600GT is one useless product! Nothing better than 7600GT! Now, compare 9600GT with 8600GT. And u'll know its called "Upgradation"!
Similarly 6600GT was from FX 5 series GPU lineups ! And indeed a very better upgradation, considering the period and technology! ;)

paranj
09-06-2008, 11:36 PM
no i mean it costed 11.5k? and seeing some more posts i came to knw that 6800 Ultra costs 35k [faints]

kuki_295
10-06-2008, 01:24 AM
Can u run 9*** series on ASUS p5n -e SLi?
Which is the best buy 9600GT or 8800 GT or 8800 GTS?
i hav a 2 month old 8800 GS Alpha dog and i wanna sell it what price should i expect?

ALSO can we creat new theads each year for price and other stuff?
its just hard to use search cos it shows old prices too.

paranj
10-06-2008, 01:50 AM
ofcourse that mobo can run it. The price u wud get for that card sud be around 5k. if budget permits than obviously 8800GTS otherwise the 8800GT will be the best. And regarding threads, ask the mods :)

bikdel
10-06-2008, 02:08 AM
Guys, give me some advice regarding this
which is good, MSI 8800 GT OC edition (with zalman cooler)
or XFX 8800 GT Alpha Dog Edition.
I also wanted to know that does XFX 8800 GT ALpha Dog Edition has some serious heating problem, but it costs around 12.2 K and comes with some game bundled with it.

What does MSI bundle include (apart from Zalman cooler), does it have heating issues as XFX's. Please mention also mention the current price if possible.

go for MSI card as paranj said.

And u stole my siggy or what? Mind that, im senior in the forum than you. And here we get provision to ban junior members after 1 year of registration. I give you an ultimatum to change your signature in 24 hrs. Take care.

Lolz jus kiddin dude. Dont mind.

Bikalpa