All Graphics Cards related queries here.

[sagargv]

do explain more..i remeber reading something in this forum regarding SLI and crossfire problem written by you..why is it happening ? is it because work is not being efficiently distributed between the 2 gpu's ? i know this is far too layman terms ..but plz tell me more.

[quadroplex780]

do explain more..i remeber reading something in this forum regarding SLI and crossfire problem written by you..why is it happening ? is it because work is not being efficiently distributed between the 2 gpu's ? i know this is far too layman terms ..but plz tell me more.
The cause of the problem is very easy to identify,In case of Alternate Frame Rendering 1 image each is processed by the two graphics cards simultaneously after the processing finishes the slave card sends the processed image to the primary card which then displays the 1st image and the then the 2nd image after an interval of 10ms but after this no image is ready to be displayed and the cards are again processing the 3rd and fourth image simultaneously,So after suppose the image processing has been completed by the two garphics cards in 40ms to the 2nd image being displayed the 3rd and 4th images are displayed after an interval of 40ms and 50ms respectively to the 2nd image.
It goes like this-1st image-10ms-2nd image--40ms--3rd image-10ms-4th image--40ms--5th image
So u can see that the image distribution is irregular.
Thus it feels laggy though the FPS may be 30.

[sagargv]

ok. but then in a single card setup , the time difference between the 2 images being displayed should be a constant 40ms producing more lags ?

[quadroplex780]

^^U forgot that in SLI time is also spend in transferring processed image from the slave card to the master card but not in a single card setup that is what makes it much worse as in single GPU there is no such thing.
The 1st 2 images are not really different.Suppose this-How can u predict the players next movement so if the player moves in a game the scenery should change but the 1st two images that are rendered are almost identical(SLI cannot predict the player's movement in the 2nd image as its processed at the same time as the 1st)so if they are rendered one after another even when the player moves he sees the same image twice then after 40ms a new image is displayed(since now data is available about the player's move)this image and the 5th image are identical but(since processed at the same time)but account for the players move that occured after the 2nd image.So basically u see the same image twice and hence the high FPS inspite of lag.
It can only feel smooth if the distribution is even.

[sagargv]

yeah, that makes sense to me. so the solution would be to make the two cards process the same image. part of the image by the first card and the remaining part of the first image itself by the second card. . is that possible ? any other solutions ? and what are nvidia and amd intending to do about this problem..

recently i read another interesting article. .it says that timedemo's in games are studied and the cards drivers ( or may be the other way around also ) are optimized for timedemo's and not the entire game. .that article claimed that a single 8800ultra is quite close to 3870x2 in actual gameplay but in a timedemo ( say crysis ) 3870x2 seems to be a tad faster.

so , are these timedemo's trustable ?

[quadroplex780]

Split Frame Rendering in SLI and Tile rendering in crossfire refer to the same image data being distributed among the 2 Gpus and then when each GPU completes it task the various parts of image(2 parts in SFR and Tiled parts in Tile rendering)are constructed into 1 image by the master card and then displayed unforunately nVidia and ATI are not experts in these two fields of SLI & crossfire and hence these techniques are less used in games and if you force this technique it will lead to performance problems because the game is not ready for SFR or Tile rendering.

[sagargv]

what steps are nvidia and ati taking to overcome this ?

[quadroplex780]

^^nVidia and ATI have fixed this issue for crysis and Dirt you know why because FPS in these games is always low at high reolutions @<30 in the newer drivers.Call of Juarez Dx10 & 3DMark06 still need to be fixed by nvidia for SLI micro-stuttering but I am sure they are promptly working on the problem.It requires a driver level optimisation for evening out the Frames.
Games which are affected form micro-stuttering on SLI include the following
1)NFS-PRO Street
2)Clive Barker's Jericho
3)Lost Planet
And there are many others which I don't know or haven't been observed by the experts via Fraps.
Some nVidia officials have decieded to hide this fact from the consumers to maintain their SLI gpu sales.

[sagargv]

how did nvidia fix the issue in crysis ? split frame rendering ?

[quadroplex780]

^^Don't know exactly about that but most probably by evening out the data send to the GPU for processing that is why its more complex a method to solve the problem as different games require different approach for the amt. of GFX data they send to the driver.

[karanchaphekar]

hey
i brought my gigabyte 8800gt yesterday but its fan is not working
and make a clicking noise i found about noise on following link

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40338

i think that performense is bit slow

can i repair it? i saw that when i turn fan with finger then it make metal scraping noise i tried raise the metal sheet above with screwdriver but no use

core temp go upto 110c please help asap

[dOm1naTOr]

dun even think bout turning on the PC with fan not running. It cud blow up the card and can void warranty and render the card useless.
Get it replaced.

[sagargv]

^^Don't know exactly about that but most probably by evening out the data send to the GPU for processing that is why its more complex a method to solve the problem as different games require different approach for the amt. of GFX data they send to the driver.

ok . i dint exactly get it .. what do u mean evening the data sent to gpu ?
so somehow nvidia is overcoming this without having to opt split frame rendering. ..

[quadroplex780]

^^Even distribution of the data(regarding player's movement)send to the GPUs for processing graphics so that the frames also carry the changes in the players movements and not just the same frame twice.
nVidia considers AFR to be more efficient than SFR.

[sagargv]

thanks. . whats AFR and SFR ???? man , i am such a noob.

[quadroplex780]

^^AFR for alternate frame rendering and SFR for split frame rendering:).

[sagargv]

why is AFR superior to SFR ? if SFR is used , performance of SLI should scale better , isnt it ?

[quadroplex780]

Because the time frames require to be displayed is greater in case of Split Frame rendering(Splitting up the image data and then reconstructing the various parts into 1 image requires a lot of time).

[sagargv]

looks like crossfire / SLI capability to scale is doomed to low values until drivers are optimized for each and every game !!

[BULLZI]

Hi guyz,

Got my Ge Cube XHD3870X2 card yesterday. But I am having a weired problem. The card has got dual slot cooling but only one fan is running. The other fan is not working at all and a strage "click click" soung is coming out of the card. Display is coming in the TFT. But I didnt dare to run my PC for more than 5 mins as some warning LEDs showed that NB temp is quite high.
What do u suggest? Is it any power supply problem?? Or is it the problem with the vga card itself? Should I claim a replacement?
I have Corsair 620 Watt as psu. Dont think it cant provide enuff power for the vga.
Where does the problem lie?
Please reply soon. I wanna have my vga card completely cured as soon as possible.
Thanks

[hellgate]

^^^ its not a psu prob.psu is more than capable to pull a 3870X2.
it cud be that the other fan starts working only after the gpu reaches a particular temp.

[nish_higher]

hey
i brought my gigabyte 8800gt yesterday but its fan is not working
and make a clicking noise i found about noise on following link

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40338

i think that performense is bit slow

can i repair it? i saw that when i turn fan with finger then it make metal scraping noise i tried raise the metal sheet above with screwdriver but no use

core temp go upto 110c please help asap

have u connected the power connectors?
what PSU do you have?

[BULLZI]

But I think that two gpus hv got one fan each. So both the fans should run. Anyway, I cant take risk to run my system without having proper info. There is nothing such written in the manual that one fan shud run only when that is required. And nyway, what about the strage cluttering sound? I have never heard a fan making such noise.

Please guyz, suggest something. Then I will be going to ask for a replacement tomorrow.

[sagargv]

get replacement. looks like its faulty.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Have u guys seen this (http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/quad-sli-reviewed)?

Quad SLI reviewed

And LOW END 9-SERIES CARDS (http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/low-end-9-series-cards)

[quan chi]

what will be the cost of a 8600gt with 256mb ddr3 memory ??

[dOm1naTOr]

8600GT is now bout 4.8k to 6k. 6k one will be havinf custom h/f and might be factory oced. like sprkle calibre and asus EN 8600GT OC.
For 4.8k, u can get stock 8600GT from XFX, POV , MSI, gigabyte etc.
Dun go for XFX due to heating issues. The new 6k proced model of XFX is gud but costly compared to similar priced oced ones.

[nvidia]

^^+1
Stay away from the older XFX models. Its best to buy the ASUS card which has better cooling:)

[navrajyadav]

hi guys !,

i want to buy a graphics card of 256mb.my configuration is intel 915 glvg motherboard,intel 2.8 ghz(533fsb),iball 400 watt atx,512mb ram,80gb hard disk. please suggest me a good graphics card in around 4k-5.5k. keep in mind my motherboard support it or not.

some friends suggest me ati radeon hd 3650. is it support my mother board or not. my atx is of 400watt, its is enough or not.

thanks

[sagargv]

does ur mobo have a pcie slot ? is it produced by intel or intel chipset based mobo ?

i prefer 8600GT over 3650 . .
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d915glvg/sb/CS-020821.htm

is this ur mobo ?

if yes , i dont think it has a pcie slot. AFAIK intel 915GL doesnt support pcie x16 . . but it says that a 12 volt connector for 75W power of pcie slot is there. .but no slot ??

check if u have a pcie slot and report back here.

[navrajyadav]

sagargv does ur mobo have a pcie slot ? is it produced by intel or intel chipset based mobo ?

i prefer 8600GT over 3650 . .
http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../CS-020821.htm (http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d915glvg/sb/CS-020821.htm)

is this ur mobo ?

if yes , i dont think it has a pcie slot. AFAIK intel 915GL doesnt support pcie x16 . . but it says that a 12 volt connector for 75W power of pcie slot is there. .but no slot ??

check if u have a pcie slot and report back here.

dear, i have original intel d915glvg motherboard,as it is in the link you provide, then tell me personally. what i have to do? and which one is the best choice for me, and tell me also about my atx.

when i see my motherboard i found two pci slot

anyway thanks

[sagargv]

you found 2 pci slots . thats great . but did you find a pcie x16 slot? its usually black in color , nearly the same length as of pci slot .do u have such a slot which is usually just above the pci slots ?

i think u're going to say "no" from what i gather in your previous post. .thats bad news for you . its very hard to find pci g-cards and even if you do find them , they will be pathetic performers in gaming. .

budget 5k . .. thats pretty hard . .i wud suggest going for xfx 630i mobo ( 3.5k ) . it has onboard nvidia 7050 ..add a 1gig of ram .

[monkey]

@sagargv: Isn't EVGA 630i/7100 better option than XFX 630i/7050? Especially when XFX is for 3.5k while EVGA is for 3.1k? Infact EVGA 630i/7150 is also less than 5k (at 4.8k) so even this should be considered.

[sagargv]

wonderful !! i would prefer evga over xfx any day( i personally have a bad experience with xfx ) . .i dint know evga was available. .

[monkey]

I found EVGA here: http://www.yantraonline.in/product.asp?CompId=34

Actually I am assembling a computer for my office and was considering EVGA 630i/7150 mobo with E6750 and 1 GB RAM (basic use with light gaming).

[quan chi]

well will 7600gt work.

[sagargv]

^^ 7600GT will work on ur pc as it has a pcie slot . but power requirements of 7600GT is nearly same ( slightly more ) than that of 8600GT , so again psu becomes a problem for you . .. plz tell the amperage on the 12 volt rail of the 400W VIP psu that you were talking about (in pm) and how much does it cost ?

[raviramgopal]

hi,
i'm planning to buy a 9600gt.i found out the cost of the xfx 9600gt(9.5k).i wanted to know whether i can buy this card or should i buy any other manufacturer.if yes,which one.thanks in advance

[niax]

hello guyzz!!

i,ve got a problem and need some help...

i run a xfx8600gts in my rig(53C idle) and with riva tuner, accelerate its fan to 100% before putting it under load...after a couple of minutes of load, the fan retards to 30% and the temp soars up to 79-78C....small fluctuations in fan speed(40%-45%) mentain the temp at that pt...

next:OC the gpu about 60mhz and repeat the procedure...this time the fan speed ranges between 50-55% and temp stays at 79-80C..

why does the fan slow down automatically??and is this temp too high 4 gpu??

[nvidia]

^^The temperature is high. But not very high. My 8600GT goes upto 85C.
In case your card heats to more than 87-90C then it will be best if you get your card replaced:)

hi,
i'm planning to buy a 9600gt.i found out the cost of the xfx 9600gt(9.5k).i wanted to know whether i can buy this card or should i buy any other manufacturer.if yes,which one.thanks in advance
Why not the 8800GT? Its a little better....

[raviramgopal]

^^^^,
i c.anyway i'm planning to buy a new comp .i contacted my vendor,these are the prices i got for my config-
1)Abit ip35e-5.5k
2)C2d E8400-8K
3)2gb Kingston 800mghz-1.75k
4)Nvidia 8800gt-12k
5)WD 250gb sata II with 16mb Buffer-2.7k
6)cooler master cabinet(elite 330)+PSU 500w-5.5k

i just wanted to know whether this is a good deal.thanks

[sagargv]

fine deal.

[mayanksharma]

@ravi,
Seems fine. Just make sure, u go with the right brand in case of RAM and GPU. e.g. MSI NX8800GT TD512E would be nice and its priced accordingly, i.e. 12K ! Regarding RAM i suggest u to go with either Patriot or Corsair!
Rest, the Rig is nice.

[sagargv]

^^^^,
i c.anyway i'm planning to buy a new comp .i contacted my vendor,these are the prices i got for my config-
1)Abit ip35e-5.5k
2)C2d E8400-8K
3)2gb Kingston 800mghz-1.75k
4)Nvidia 8800gt-12k
5)WD 250gb sata II with 16mb Buffer-2.7k
6)cooler master cabinet(elite 330)+PSU 500w-5.5k

i just wanted to know whether this is a good deal.thanks

i heard that 8800GTS 512mb is available for 14k , its a pretty good deal . it has a gr8 cooler. consider that.

[raviramgopal]

^^^
i dont think i need a 8800gts,here in bangalore i think its around 15.5k.i cant extend my budget anymore and a 8800gt or a 9600gt is more than enough for me.thanks for the suggestion anyway

[quan chi]

grafix cards are becomming boring now.:(

[ramsingh]

just purchases : MSI 9600GT 512 Mb--- Rs.10100
Abit IP35E- Rs. 5300

was going 2 buy Intel Core 2 Quad 6600(2.4 Ghz)---Rs. 10,500 but the dealer pissed me off.. waited for 1/2 hr for the proccsr// nd when he bought it from some other shop. it was of Nov-2007 and the seal was slightly scratched.. so disint buy..
what is d curremt price of Q 6600 in Pune.. should i buy it from here(kolkata)nd take 2 pune?
Regarding ram is there any appreciable difference in Corsair value ram and Corsair XMS ram...??should i opt for value ram..

[monkey]

Corsair Value RAMs max out at 667 MHz while XMS series goes much beyond...
Also XMS series are very good at overclocking..

[dOm1naTOr]

ans so is the price. Its much costly than value series.
Better get some 800Mhz ram nd downclock to 667 nd tighten the timings.
Transcent 800 makes gud buy.

[mayanksharma]

just purchases : MSI 9600GT 512 Mb--- Rs.10100
Abit IP35E- Rs. 5300

was going 2 buy Intel Core 2 Quad 6600(2.4 Ghz)---Rs. 10,500 but the dealer pissed me off.. waited for 1/2 hr for the proccsr// nd when he bought it from some other shop. it was of Nov-2007 and the seal was slightly scratched.. so disint buy..
what is d curremt price of Q 6600 in Pune.. should i buy it from here(kolkata)nd take 2 pune?
Regarding ram is there any appreciable difference in Corsair value ram and Corsair XMS ram...??should i opt for value ram..

Ok, first of all congrats for ur new GPU n mobo! And secondly, u've posted the same matter in three different sticky threads??? U could've asked the same with anyone of them!
Regarding, XMS and Value rams, XMS rams feature better timings and latency than the value rams. Plus, XMS rams come equipped with heat spreader and value rams doesnt.
Lastly, XMS rams are way costly!! :p

[nvidia]

grafix cards are becomming boring now.:(
Lol... Why so?


Regarding ram is there any appreciable difference in Corsair value ram and Corsair XMS ram...??should i opt for value ram..

IF you are a overclocker and if you overclock to a very high extent then you go for the XMS. Otherwise, Value RAM is good enuf...

[mayanksharma]

ok, a query...
I am using the Nov 07 released Forceware 169.21 for 8600GT. I heard, Forceware 174.74 is available for XP and Vista. So, i just want suggestions on updating the drivers? Coz, it is not WHQL certified so i was hesitating to give it a try. One more thing, is it really safe to try all those modified drivers? And is it true that there are drivers which give better performance in crysis than others? I heard some, but wasnt sure. And if it is then is the driver meant for that sole purpose only?? I mean, games other than Crysis wouldnt get any benefit..?

[HellKing]

I am using ForceWare 174.xxx and I think it IS WHQL certified..

but that is for 9600GT and 9800GX2

For 8600GT, the latest driver I think is ForceWare Release 169 which you have....

[nvidia]

8600GT, Vista the latest driver available is 169.25(WHQL)
In XP its 169.21(WHQL)
Source (http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us):)

[sagargv]

And is it true that there are drivers which give better performance in crysis than others? I heard some, but wasnt sure.

i think u r referring to omega drivers. . i havent tried them . . omega guy doesnt write the drivers . .he chooses the best files(what he thinks ) from different driver versions. .

[mayanksharma]

well, yeah i was referring to all those drivers with modified inf and no whql certification. Anyways, this means i should stick with good old 169.21 whql then. :)

[shaileshskamath]

I have an Intel865 motherboard with a 128MB Graphics card (Geforce 440MX), and I want to upgrade to the 512MB Geforce 8500GT. Sadly, the PCI slot for the 440MX doesn't match the 8500GT, and that's the only PCI slot on the motherboard :( What do I do now (without giving up the card that is) ?...

[nvidia]

^^You have to change the motherboard to support any new graphics card.
And its not a good thing to buy the 8500GT. Buy the 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 card.

[ancientrites]

wait a minute that mobo supports agp cards and how can it support pcie cards. i may be mistaken here u can upgrade to geforce 7800gs agp card

[nvidia]

^^Thats what i've said there... He has to change the motherboard... Its a waste of money if he is going to buy an agp card now...

[anshad666]

I Want Knw About The Intel GMA X3100...am Havng Acer Aspire 5920..am Not A Plyer Of High End Games...its Suitable For Me Or Not???...if I Upgrade To Dedicatd Graphics Which One I Choose???plz Reply

[nvidia]

^^Suitable for you or not depends on the kind of games that you like to play. If you like to play all the latest and the ones that will be released in the future, then its recommended to buy a new graphics card.
Whats your budget if you decide to buy a new card?

[raviramgopal]

my frnd needs to buy and agp card , not a pci or pci express card , cause he will get a new comp in a few months so the agp is only temporary , his configuration is - intel 845 series motherboard,1 gig ddr1 ram,40 gb hardisk , p4 processor 2.4 ghz etc so plz i need a reply and how good is the BFG Geforce 7800 GS OC AGP 256mb card

[sagargv]

7800GS is a fine card. . .but not worth the money . .i think a 7300GT / 7600GS should do for a few months. . for how much is he getting the 7800GS ?

[nvidia]

@raviramgopal: If he is getting a new computer then why cant he wait? There is no use in buying a AGP card now... Ask him to wait and then buy a PCIe card.

[anshad666]

^^Suitable for you or not depends on the kind of games that you like to play. If you like to play all the latest and the ones that will be released in the future, then its recommended to buy a new graphics card.
Whats your budget if you decide to buy a new card?


i dnt knw more abut such cards...if i buy my budjts under 5000....plz post most popular cards and prices if u can???plz...

[sagargv]

^^ 8600gt.

[pawsingh]

I am planning to buy a new PC and dealer gave an option to go for second hand graphic card. below are the two cards and their price.

Leadtek 6600 GT - 1.5k
ATI 1800 - 4.5k

which one shall I go for and is the price ok?

[gary4gar]

^^^
you buying AGP card:o

[pawsingh]

^^^
you buying AGP card:o


I am sure that ATI one is PCIE but not sure about the leadtek. however, leadtek one had the SLI option. that makes me believe its not AGP.

Still I am not sure. upgrading PC after approx 4 years. totaly out of touch from PC hardware.

Currently running Geforce FX 5200 so you can understand where i stand.

[sagargv]

if u're going for a new pc. .i think its better to go4 a newer card. . 6600GT is too outdated. .and old one means its been used for about 2-3 yrs .. g-cards dont last as long as proccy's. .

[nvidia]

I am sure that ATI one is PCIE but not sure about the leadtek. however, leadtek one had the SLI option. that makes me believe its not AGP.

Still I am not sure. upgrading PC after approx 4 years. totaly out of touch from PC hardware.

Currently running Geforce FX 5200 so you can understand where i stand.
If you plan to use your new PC for the next 4 years, then 6600 will not be enough... It wont last even a single day:lol:
Its completely outdated and buying that is a waste of money. Buy the 8600GT and dont settle for anything below this even if you are a casual gamer:)

[rahulmig]

Go 8800GT 512 MB DDR3 Super clocked

[pawsingh]

If you plan to use your new PC for the next 4 years, then 6600 will not be enough... It wont last even a single day:lol:
Its completely outdated and buying that is a waste of money. Buy the 8600GT and dont settle for anything below this even if you are a casual gamer:)

Any Idea which is the best 8600 GT card and its price?

Appreciate your help.

[mayanksharma]

First of all, there is no BEST 8600GT in the market! And secondly, there are lots of brands to choose from. Anyways, MSI and Palit has good models in the market. Even, if u are going for the XFX 8600GT product, make sure u go for a aftermarket cooler. After that, the card excels excellently! :)

[pawsingh]

here is the config that I am planning to buy

mobo - abit ip35
Procy - E8200
Ram - 2 gig

I am a casual gamer and will be playing games like GTA san Andreas, Doom3.

Main purpose is to play 1080p movies.
Pc will be running 24/7
considering above will XFX 8600 GT be an issue? in terms of heating and performance?

I am not planning to over clock. If heating is going to be an issue with GPU then what type of cooling solution you recommend?
Consider me as newbie.
Thanks in advance

[sagargv]

^^ if u dont OC and are only a casual gamer , a xfx 8600GT should not be a problem. ..i see no point in going for a aftermarket cooler for a mid-low end product like 8600GT . the cooler itself will cost 2k atleast. thats why i think u shud go4 other brand like asus / palit / evga ( get from tirupathi enterprises ) / galaxy .

[constantine]

i need a good pci-e card and my budget is 5k any suggestions , preferably nvidia also which motherboard is better - asua p5k plvm intel , asus p5s mx se , biostar gf 7050-m7 plz need a reply fast

[pawsingh]

^^ if u dont OC and are only a casual gamer , a xfx 8600GT should not be a problem. ..i see no point in going for a aftermarket cooler for a mid-low end product like 8600GT . the cooler itself will cost 2k atleast. thats why i think u shud go4 other brand like asus / palit / evga ( get from tirupathi enterprises ) / galaxy .

^ thanks for the information. However i am little confused about your comments. you mentioned that xfx 8600 GT should not be a problem and also suggested to go for other brands like asus/palit/evga/galaxy.

[constantine]

plz help me ppl i need a goog pci express card within 4500 rs , it should be good enough for me to play crysis plz ppl

[Beta Waves]

I think you can get 6600GT for your budget...You can play crysis provided you have 1 or 2 GB RAM but at low graphics settings

[DigitalDude]

plz help me ppl i need a goog pci express card within 4500 rs , it should be good enough for me to play crysis plz ppl

I think you can get 6600GT for your budget...You can play crysis provided you have 1 or 2 GB RAM but at low graphics settings

dont kid yourselves :D




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[mayanksharma]

plz help me ppl i need a goog pci express card within 4500 rs , it should be good enough for me to play crysis plz ppl
Go for any 8600GT brand. Like, XFX, Palit or MSI. With 8600GT, there isnt much to choose from.

@sagargv,
well, the aftermarket cooling advice included future Overclocking stability and performance guarantee !! :D hehe..
Not necessary to go for though... Depends upon usability!

[sagargv]

i dont think 8600GT is worth the aftermarket coolers price. . better to get a more powerful card with stock cooler .. my opinion. .

for a 8600 , i wud prefer brands other than XFX..

[pawsingh]

Thanks a lot for your reviews guys. I will go for the XFX 8600 GT. Just want to confirm if this is the one you are talking about:

http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=415


Also let me know if this one is better than FXf or not:
http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=643
Its MSI

[NIGHTMARE]

guys wat is the price of ATi 3850

[sagargv]

Thanks a lot for your reviews guys. I will go for the XFX 8600 GT. Just want to confirm if this is the one you are talking about:

http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=415


Also let me know if this one is better than FXf or not:
http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=643
Its MSI

xfx 8600 , u shud get it for 4.5 - 5k . .6k is far too high for card that runs hotter than other brands. see if u can get evga. .

[DigitalDude]

guys wat is the price of ATi 3850
Rs 12,375/- (GeCube)
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1109

Rs 11,500/- (GeCube)
http://www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm


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[monkey]

Rs 12,375/- (XFX)
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=1109

Rs 11,500/- (GeCube)
http://www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm


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ATI 3850 by XFX??!! Check again dude...

[NIGHTMARE]

XFX ATi 3850 wow hmm :D

[DigitalDude]

XFX ATi 3850 wow hmm :D
hehehe slip of da finger :p



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[raj7000]

hi out there,


I am facing a problem with my xfx geforce 6600 grpahics card.The Display shows picture with stripes & after that back & white suqares appear on the monitor.Can anyone tell me whats the problem with my card & provide ant solution to it.its an agp card

[sagargv]

its artifacting . .get it replaced. its probobly running too hot / has run too hot for too long a time . ..

[purvabh]

hi there........now basically thanks to this thread i've been able to choose a card (the 9600) but then i'm also in a weird fix........i live in vadodara gujarat and the problem is that my dealer can't get this card for me (trust me though i am looking around,its rather difficult to get one if he can't).....i can easily go to ahemdabad if that can solve my problem.....the last option would be mumbai which for obvious reasons is undesirable........and i'm also going to singapore malaysia and thailand in not too much of time.....is it advisable to wait ? if yes please specify both the market and the expected price difference....and that if the ati 3850 would be cheaper too (i can pay 9k at max for starters).......and lol......a final request :D.....could someone tell me about the street prices (india) of these two cards?

Cheers

[sagargv]

get the 9600GT . its around 9k-10k . .for evga it may be 11k . .dont forget about the psu . .u'll need a psu with atleast 26A on 12 volt for either 3850 / 9600GT. . 9600 is much better than 3850 .

[DigitalDude]

hi there........now basically thanks to this thread i've been able to choose a card (the 9600) but then i'm also in a weird fix........i live in vadodara gujarat and the problem is that my dealer can't get this card for me (trust me though i am looking around,its rather difficult to get one if he can't).....i can easily go to ahemdabad if that can solve my problem.....the last option would be mumbai which for obvious reasons is undesirable........and i'm also going to singapore malaysia and thailand in not too much of time.....is it advisable to wait ? if yes please specify both the market and the expected price difference....and that if the ati 3850 would be cheaper too (i can pay 9k at max for starters).......and lol......a final request :D.....could someone tell me about the street prices (india) of these two cards?

Cheers
check here for prices mate... theitwares.com and techshop.in

if you dont mind some custom formalities you can very well buy it in singapore.. but I dunno abt the formalities :D and you dont get warranty I guess :D

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[dOm1naTOr]

@NIGHTMARE (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=21184)
Prices of HD 3850 nd 3870 has slashed, but in itwares, it dun seems to be updated.
When i asked locally, MSI 3850 256 was for around 8.2k and 512 for 9k. U can get better deal with some bargaining. And if u from mumbai or Delhi, it ll be more cheaper, as those prices are from Kerala.

@Sagargv
HD 3850 dun need 26A on 12v rail. It can work fine on a gud 400W PSU with 20~22A on 12v rail. 22 wud be better if one plan to oc.

[rhitwick]

Hi friends,

One of my friend is going to buy a grafix card very soon, his budget is 6000/- and he wants to play Crysis.

Please recommend some cards for the same. He has chosen
Palit GeForce8500GT Sonic 256 MB. Any other solution, as I don't think this is a future proof(at least next 1-1.5 yrs).

Any comments are welcome

[sagargv]

^^ dont even think of 8500 , , for 6k u can get 8600GT .

[scavanger007]

suggest graphics card for 20k budget plz.....

[deathvirus_me]

^^ 8800GTS 512 MB .. should be around 18.5k's ..

[DigitalDude]

^^^
even 9800GTS or similar model is around 20k

or else you can even get any of the below model and a good gfx cooler

XFX GeForce 8800GT 512 MB DDR3 PV-T88P-YDF4 - Rs.14500
XFX GeForce 8800GT 512 MB DDR3 Extreme PV-T88P-YDE4 - Rs.16000
XFX GeForce 8800GT 512 MB DDR3 XXX PV-T88P-YDD4 - Rs.17500


price source: theitwares.com

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[keith_j_snyder2]

9500GT - better than 8600GT
http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/9500gt-beats-up-8600gt

[mayanksharma]

9500GT - better than 8600GT
http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/9500gt-beats-up-8600gt
The card was supposed to replace 8500GT but it actually replaced 8600 GT!! :D :p :x

ohh my...why did i go with 8600?? :( :(

[sagargv]

^^ 8800GTS 512 MB .. should be around 18.5k's ..

in case u have a SLI mobo , consider 2*9600GT.

[sumigizlov]

what are the latest prices of agp cards 6200gt, 7300 and 6600gt
i have 845 gv mobo with 4x agp slot does my mobo support these cards

[sagargv]

@NIGHTMARE (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=21184)
Prices of HD 3850 nd 3870 has slashed, but in itwares, it dun seems to be updated.
When i asked locally, MSI 3850 256 was for around 8.2k and 512 for 9k. U can get better deal with some bargaining. And if u from mumbai or Delhi, it ll be more cheaper, as those prices are from Kerala.

@Sagargv
HD 3850 dun need 26A on 12v rail. It can work fine on a gud 400W PSU with 20~22A on 12v rail. 22 wud be better if one plan to oc.

oh ok . thanks for correcting me. but i usually recommend better psu's to avoid stability probs or rare overheating cases .

[ankushkool]

isnt it better 2 buy 8800GT 256MB than 9600GT 512 MB???

[sagargv]

^^ 9600GT scales better in SLI . but yes , a 8800GT SLI is more powerful .

[ankushkool]

thanks :P can someone give de price of de two in delhi n mumbai?

[DigitalDude]

for mumbai you can refer to theitwares.com

dunno for delhi you can see this npithub.com might be around the same price ;)


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[monkey]

thanks :P can someone give de price of de two in delhi n mumbai?

In Delhi you can check yantraonline.in. But the prices here are inclusive of taxes and shipping. If you are in Delhi then you can discount shipping charges and get a better price.

[aytus]

guys.. where can i find a 8800 GS .. ?? i think the card is not launched in india .. but plz correct me if im wrong..
btw ytf was this card not released in india.. it wuud hav been instant hit/???
and i even read smwher that this card is rebranded as some 9xxx card now.. ]
is it goin to b available in india..

[sagargv]

8800GS was only filling in . now the 9600GT is the owner of that price range.

[quan chi]

guys i have one query. well i am not able to find any 256mb version of 8600gt.i have called in some nearby shops but everyone says that only 512mb version of this card is available now.and it costs around 4900-5000.

and they have stopped making the 8500 versions also.

well is it true.
what would be the cost of a 256mb version now.
and i have 18amps on 12v rails is there any chance of this card working properly on this system.

[deathvirus_me]

8800GS was only filling in . now the 9600GT is the owner of that price range.

>9k's is not exactly mid range u know .. going by the standards of India i.e. :P .. ~7.5 would be still a better option ..

Also .. 8800GS is already phased out :p ... 9600GSO is almost here .. and if priced properly .. it could turn out to be a better vfm card for mid-range's :D ...

[keith_j_snyder2]

guys i have one query. well i am not able to find any 256mb version of 8600gt.i have called in some nearby shops but everyone says that only 512mb version of this card is available now.and it costs around 4900-5000.

and they have stopped making the 8500 versions also.

well is it true.
what would be the cost of a 256mb version now.
and i have 18amps on 12v rails is there any chance of this card working properly on this system.

Where are u from?
Well 8600GT doesn't require external power. It draws from PCI-E slot itself.
Whatsoever the card will be available between 4500-5000/-
And since u already getting a 512MB version for >5000/- then it is the best deal. ANd i guess it should be a DDR3 Version otherwise no point of buying it.
Personally - I don't think 8600GT is a good option.
I recommend This (http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/9500gt-beats-up-8600gt)
But u have to wait for it.

[DigitalDude]

^^^^
the DDR3 version of 512MB 8600GT is around 6k... so probably he might have got the deal for the older DDR2 thing :D


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[quan chi]

Where are u from?
Well 8600GT doesn't require external power. It draws from PCI-E slot itself.
Whatsoever the card will be available between 4500-5000/-
And since u already getting a 512MB version for >5000/- then it is the best deal. ANd i guess it should be a DDR3 Version otherwise no point of buying it.
Personally - I don't think 8600GT is a good option.
I recommend This (http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/9500gt-beats-up-8600gt)
But u have to wait for it.



well my mobo dosent have pci-e version 2.0 slot.so i think i cant opt for 9600gt.:(

it only supports pci-e x16 (x4 mode) slot.

[KaranTh85]

do we have 2 consider core clock & memory clock while buying a card...what
role do they have in gaming...?

lets say :grin:
between ATi HD 3870XT:
http://techshop.in/store/product_inf...oducts_id=1241 (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=4_272&products_id=1241)

& Nvidia 9600GT:

http://techshop.in/store/product_inf...oducts_id=1360 (http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=4_272&products_id=1360)

the former has higher values in coreclock & memory clock....so is it better
than the latter....also its priced higher...:confused:

[sagargv]

^^ u can compare the core clocks of 2 gpu's based on the same core. . in the comparison u gave , they have different cores.

[keith_j_snyder2]

I think HD3870 is much better choice over 9600GT but considering price point, the 9600GT is better.

[sagargv]

^^ i beg to differ. .3870 is better only when AA is turned off. how can you say its a much better card ?

[quan chi]

please help me post your replies.http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85744

[Beta Waves]

dont kid yourselves :D




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Yo Dude I am really Sorry for that Post ... I have 7950 GT .. The game runs fine with high settings ... so thought it might run on 6600GT on low settings ... And i had no idea that 8 series cards are so cheap ... Are they any better than 7950GT .....:D

[quan chi]

well i am not that hardcore gamer.

i love to play games like hitman contracts nfs mw.type old games in mid high or a little high settings on 800x600 or 1024x768 resolutions.

therefore i got a xfx geforce 8500gt 512mb ddr2 graphics card.

everything from installation was smooth. but after i installed the driver from the xfx cd. i ran hitman contracts on high settings.initially it ran well but aftersome time i started to experience some graphical glitches.

as i am on dial up so i thought of updating the driver from a december 2007 c magazine issue which gives forceware updates for nvidia for windows xp.



well after i ran that driver installation suddenly my system restarted and gave that driver error .after that i got some three more restarts(not simultaniously).

the cpu temperature was runing at 40 deg c.

guys please help me.how should i update my graphics driver to the latest version.

i mean should i first uninstall my older version then start this newer version installation.can anyone please provide me the site.

as i am using a graphics card for the first time.


friends please help me.

[allwyndlima]

What was the driver version of the XFX disc? Also did you test other games in that driver? My advice is uninstall the December driver that you have installed & get the latest one installed.Check if after that too your system reboots or not.

[quan chi]

What was the driver version of the XFX disc? Also did you test other games in that driver? My advice is uninstall the December driver that you have installed & get the latest one installed.Check if after that too your system reboots or not.

driver version 162.18y

well that driver didnt got installed it restarted in the middle only.

but i did reinstalled my old driver.but after that also i got two restarts.

yes other games runs with it.

[allwyndlima]

What's the brand of your SMPS? or rather what's your full system specs?

[quan chi]

i have p4 3.0ghz with ht.
1.50gb of ram.
300w vip smps.
xfx geforce 8500gt 512 mb ddr2.

the system also hangs sometimes.these problems are all new.they are happening after upgrading the ram and adding the gfx card.

before restarting a blue screen with error appears whichg stays for a fraction of a second.

moreover sometimes after restarting i get this message.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.acacf08a0e.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?acacf08a0e.jpg)

[sagargv]

well i am not that hardcore gamer.

i love to play games like hitman contracts nfs mw.type old games in mid high or a little high settings on 800x600 or 1024x768 resolutions.

therefore i got a xfx geforce 8500gt 512mb ddr2 graphics card.

everything from installation was smooth. but after i installed the driver from the xfx cd. i ran hitman contracts on high settings.initially it ran well but aftersome time i started to experience some graphical glitches.

as i am on dial up so i thought of updating the driver from a december 2007 c magazine issue which gives forceware updates for nvidia for windows xp.



well after i ran that driver installation suddenly my system restarted and gave that driver error .after that i got some three more restarts(not simultaniously).

the cpu temperature was runing at 40 deg c.

guys please help me.how should i update my graphics driver to the latest version.

i mean should i first uninstall my older version then start this newer version installation.can anyone please provide me the site.

as i am using a graphics card for the first time.


friends please help me.

whats ur gpu temp while gaming ? use riva tuner to log it .. dont alt+tab out of a game to see. . allow riva tuner to log temperature in the background while you game . After sometime check the max gpu temp and report it here .even better would be to get ATItool and run it for 15mins and see the temp. ur gpu maybe overheating.I strongly suspect this as you said u have some graphical glitches.

What psu do you have ? What is the amperage on the 12volt rail ?

i have p4 3.0ghz with ht.
1.50gb of ram.
300w vip smps.
xfx geforce 8500gt 512 mb ddr2.

the system also hangs sometimes.these problems are all new.they are happening after upgrading the ram and adding the gfx card.

before restarting a blue screen with error appears whichg stays for a fraction of a second.

moreover sometimes after restarting i get this message.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.acacf08a0e.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?acacf08a0e.jpg)

i cant seem to be able to open that image. so i dont know what error message it is. i think the VIP 300W psu is the culprit. change to atleast a zebronics 400W for 450bucks. and do get the gpu temp after running ati tool.

[DigitalDude]

@quan_chi
your SMPS maybe the culprit...

how old is it ? and did it come with your case itself ?

better to get a branded one like cooler master 450W

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[quan chi]

my smps is two years old.yes it came with the case.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b4e43e32fe.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

[DigitalDude]

^^^
it definitely needs change... buy a better PSU

Cooler Master is good but if you are on a tight budget get a zebronics as 'sagargv' suggested...


installing new RAM sticks and a gfx card might have been too much for it to handle...

and as far as gfx card heating problems are concerned I dont think 8500GT gets hots that much :D


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[quan chi]

well if i suppose by mistake runs a wrong driver update version which does not support this chipset.will it do harm my system or it will automatically wont get installed.

and can you please give me the link to download riva tuner.

[DigitalDude]

^^^
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner


btw installing a wrong driver can screwup things. but if the driver doesnt even support the chipset, in most of the cases it won't install :D

though I can't clearly figure out what you are actually asking :D


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[quan chi]

hey the problem seems to have solved.as i have taken out my 1gb ram module the system is working fine till now.

now my system memory is 512mb.

but a new problem has arised.

i cant run overlord demo properly in mid high settings at 800x600 resolutions.
you know my system spects now.i only get 10-12 fps.
the minimum system requirement for this game is.
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Minimum Specification:
----------------------
- Windows XP
- DirectX 9.0c
- CPU: Pentium 2.4 GHz or Athlon XP 2400+
- 512 mb RAM
- Graphics Card: GeForce FX5900 / Radeon 9500 or above
- DirectX 9 Compatible Sound Card
- 1.2 Gb Hard Drive Space


so i should get atleast 18-20fps.in mid settings at 800x600 resolutions.

btw is it due to the 512mb ram(as 1gb is required).

and can anyone please tell me how can i overclock my cpu and gpu.

^^^
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner


btw installing a wrong driver can screwup things. but if the driver doesnt even support the chipset, in most of the cases it won't install :D

though I can't clearly figure out what you are actually asking :D


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dosent matter you have given me the answer.:D

[imgame2]

hi people i m planning to buy graphics card and i have narrowed down two possibilities

1)9600gt (probably evga version)
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=4_272&products_id=1592

2)8800gt (MSI OC version)
http://techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=4_272&products_id=1105

now infact it looks pretty obvious that since the difference is only 1.5k going for MSI is wise choice.but my computer vendor told me that MSI service is pretty bad in chennai,and i came to know about the same from few acquaintances.thats its not great either. on the other hand evga gives a life-time warranty.though i don't know how it works in india.does anybody know about it ?

can some someone tell me (if they have this version of MSI card) if this card is good or face any problem ?also how good is buying stuff from techshop.in?i haven't bought any stuff from it or for that matter any indian online shop.is it good and reliable ?

and can anyone tell me what is the street price of this card ? if anyone know about it,it will be of great help.

[sagargv]

^^ contact tirupathi enterprises for evga cards . i dont know about MSI service. Try to find the price of evga 8800GT and the warranty you get. And i trust you have chosen a good enough psu for that card.

hey the problem seems to have solved.as i have taken out my 1gb ram module the system is working fine till now.

now my system memory is 512mb.

but a new problem has arised.

i cant run overlord demo properly in mid high settings at 800x600 resolutions.
you know my system spects now.i only get 10-12 fps.
the minimum system requirement for this game is.
----------------------
Minimum Specification:
----------------------
- Windows XP
- DirectX 9.0c
- CPU: Pentium 2.4 GHz or Athlon XP 2400+
- 512 mb RAM
- Graphics Card: GeForce FX5900 / Radeon 9500 or above
- DirectX 9 Compatible Sound Card
- 1.2 Gb Hard Drive Space


so i should get atleast 18-20fps.in mid settings at 800x600 resolutions.

btw is it due to the 512mb ram(as 1gb is required).

and can anyone please tell me how can i overclock my cpu and gpu.



dosent matter you have given me the answer.:D

run memtest to check ram . ur 1gb stick seems to be faulty. use riva tuner to OC the gpu . but with a weak gpu like 8500GT dont expect noticable improvement. and you can forget OCing that presshot p4 3 ghz.it already runs too hot .

try running that demo @ 800x600 at all low details and filters.

and do post the temps of gpu . i'm specifically asking this as XFX cards these days seem to run rather hot. . if many xfx 8600GT' were overheating , i see no reason why that should'nt be the same case with 8500GT.

[DigitalDude]

@quan_chi

also check whether the speed of your two RAM sticks are the same...

and if possible run a memory integrity check.. (using memtest http://www.memtest.org/)

EDIT:
bah! sagar beat me to it :D

and 8500GT is a pretty low powered card and it doesn't heat much like XFX's 8600GTs.. even some cards are passively cooled ;)

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[imgame2]

thanks sagargv for replying back ,i found out more about service in chennai,actually its pathetic hardly any dealer keep MSI stuff here.they say costumers come for problems MSI people are not able to support.

about prices of evga,the techshop.in prices are(i think street prices might be 1 to 1.5k less as is always the case)

evga 8800 gt 512 mb SC "superclocked"-14.4 k
evga 8800 gt 512 mb KO "knockout"-15.2k

now thats a little steep for my budget i was hoping to squeeze a 8800 gt for about 11.5 k.so if i want to go for evga, i will have to postpone buying the card for a month or two.which i m confused will be a wise decision or not ?

PSU will be coolermaster 600 W.

tirupathi enterprises doesn't have an office here in chennai will have to ask HQ in kolkata,tomo.

[sagargv]

if u wont be getting service for MSI . u might as well , stay away from it.
i would recommend the 8800GT from evga . it is a much better deal compared to the 9600GT. and the psu you have chosen is pretty good.



The rest is upto you. either wait for a month and get 8800GT 512 or get 9600GT now. If radeon 3870 is priced at 10k ,then u can go for that.but pay nothing more than 10k for 3870.

If u can get the evga 8800GT ( a non OCed version will do ) within your budget on the street, its a steel.

[imgame2]

thanks again i will have to check for a non-OCed version for evga,if i get it within my budget i will surely buy it.

and i m not going to buy HD3870 as its very rare card,ATI cards have always service issue(at least in chennai,its like ATI doesn't care about indian customers).i can't afford to waste time running around to get services from people who are not willing to provide it.And 9600 GT is much better card when i turn on anti aliasing,though the performance difference doesn't come much when u compare it with various games.

another thing which i keep thinking is the max resolution my monitor supports is 1600x1200@60Hz,and even today there are very few monitors in India which support 1900x1200 and they are extremely costly,as of now.and various reviews show that in most games baring crysis and oblivion,9600gt oced is very close to 8800gt at lower resolution till 1280x1024 and then as the resolution increases it falls behind,and real difference is shown in few games @1600x1200,1680x1050 and in most games at 1900x1200.which is very unlikely i will be playing at those resolutions in atleast coming 1 and half years.

so in all probabilty i will be playing games @ 1280x1024 @ max settings or 1600x1200 @ max settings which allow me to smooth game play.

in that case is 9600 gt not better suited for my needs ? perhaps an OCed version from eVGA ?

[pirates1323]

hey guys I'm thinkin to upgrade my graphics card to geforce 8800 series ... current my system config is:
HP:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4400
1 gb ddr2 ram
intel gma 950 graphics
240 gb hdd..

will upgradation support my system ?!... lookin forward to play new games which need high end config ... should i upgrade ram also?!

wht u think of GeForce 8800 GTX ?

I see many brands of geforce ... does the performace of each brand is different ... i saw some like

eVGA GEFORCE 8800 GTX
BFG GeForce 8800 GTX
XFX GEFORCE 8800GTX
msi etc

which should i go for ?!

[imgame2]

why go for 8800 GTX ?

a 8800 GT overcloed will fulfill ur need very well.rather spend on good PSU and cooler for 8800GT what games are u planning to play ?

as sagargv and i were talking before eVGA 8800GT 512 Mb KO "knockout" is a steal deal and it gives knockout performace,and a lifetime warranty.

i don't think BFG is available in india? correct me if i m wrong.

[sagargv]

@imgame2 , AFAIK bfg is not available. i recommended the non OCed edition as u had a budget constraint thats all . definitely KO is better. please make sure u'll get warranty for evga cards.

how long do u intend to use the card u're going to buy now ? if its <= 1 year , a 9600GT will do. for anytime more than that , i feel 8800GT will be a more prudent option.

And see if you can get Palit Sonic+ . Those cards have zalman coolers.If u can get a 8800GT palit sonic for around 11-12k , that will also be a good buy. But again you will have to confirm regarding aftersale services.

[keith_j_snyder2]

hey guys I'm thinkin to upgrade my graphics card to geforce 8800 series ... current my system config is:
HP:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4400
1 gb ddr2 ram
intel gma 950 graphics
240 gb hdd..

will upgradation support my system ?!... lookin forward to play new games which need high end config ... should i upgrade ram also?!

wht u think of GeForce 8800 GTX ?

I see many brands of geforce ... does the performace of each brand is different ... i saw some like

eVGA GEFORCE 8800 GTX
BFG GeForce 8800 GTX
XFX GEFORCE 8800GTX
msi etc

which should i go for ?!

8800GTX is costly and besides its a kicked out card.
U can have better or almost same performance with 8800GTS (512MB). Its cheap and excellent performer.
But if u have bucks then 9800GTX is the latest thing.
Also u have to upgrade that RAM too,(at least 2GB). Because it will bottleneck ur system performance and u will not be able to get all fun that u deserve!

[imgame2]

will have to look for palit and sonic cards,and yes i will be using the card for about 1 and half years atleast. and if i m not wrong nvidia will launch 9800 gt soon,that will perhaps bring down prices of 8800GT and 9600 GT as well i hope 9800 gt is atleast decently better than 8800 GT,cos if they are not 8800GT will be going strong still.

so i understand things will be changing drastically in areana.hence i do understand when u say about buying 8800 gt.and thats what i wanted.but lets hope i get what i want... if i don't get it i will very well postpone it. as next 3 months i will be very busy anyway.will not play much of games in next 3 months.

will look for stuff in august may be....a lot would have changed by then. i hope.

thanks sagargv for all ur help!!

[royal]

can some someone tell me (if they have this version of MSI card) if this card is good or face any problem ?

and can anyone tell me what is the street price of this card ? if anyone know about it,it will be of great help.

I have been using the MSI card for a week now...running smoothly so far.
I have played DOOM III, HL2, SOF Payback with high settings. No Problem. :p
(Crysis is yet to come :D )

Anyway you need a good PSU for running this. I have Corsair vx450W with 33A on +12V rail.

It cost me Rs. 11960(including tax) to get this from Tirupati so I think the price in techshop is good enough. :)

[sagargv]

will have to look for palit and sonic cards,and yes i will be using the card for about 1 and half years atleast. and if i m not wrong nvidia will launch 9800 gt soon,that will perhaps bring down prices of 8800GT and 9600 GT as well i hope 9800 gt is atleast decently better than 8800 GT,cos if they are not 8800GT will be going strong still.

so i understand things will be changing drastically in areana.hence i do understand when u say about buying 8800 gt.and thats what i wanted.but lets hope i get what i want... if i don't get it i will very well postpone it. as next 3 months i will be very busy anyway.will not play much of games in next 3 months.

will look for stuff in august may be....a lot would have changed by then. i hope.

thanks sagargv for all ur help!!

Glad i could be of help. In 3 months , it is quite possible the 9900 based on GT200 will come out and some rumors indicate they have shway performance.Have a good time and when you do make your purchase , tell us too. .

[rahulmig]

Go for EVGA or MSI Graphics Card only ... !!

[sagargv]

^^ how is MSI service ?

this guy( imgame2 ) is backing away from MSI because of its service . i think he's from chennai. Could you help him ?

[mayanksharma]

will have to look for palit and sonic cards,and yes i will be using the card for about 1 and half years atleast.
Sonic isnt any GPU manufacturer. Actually, Sonic,Super and Sonic+ are Palit's models. Super generally includes 512MB and above VRAMs. Sonic and Sonic+ models feature better VRAM modules,cooling units and comparatively higher clocks than other OC'd cards. And thats why, Sonic+ models are quite costly than the regular ones. Though, performance is worth the price.
Regarding, GPU...see if u can wait then go for 8800GT after a while. By then, the price tag would be quite attractive.
As for 9600GT, Palit Sonic+ 9600GT 512MB model is highly recommendable by me! Superb performance and O/C-ability! :D

[svgreatest]

My PC Config is:
915GAV Genuine Intel mobo
NavTech 450W PSU (came with the cabinet)
PIV 3Ghz Processor
512MB RAM
7300LE PCi-e card
My card temperature idles at 72 and when i play games it crosses a 100 C. Pls advise me on how to get my graphics card temp down.

Thanks

[sagargv]

^^ whoa ! its burning up. .use a blower ( dont blow hot air ) to clear dust in the heat sink . if its a new card get it replaced. .if u've crossed the warranty period , reapply some thermal paste.

EDIT

It is unusual but possible that u're smps is not providing enough power and thus causing the heating problem . Try the card in ur frends house and see the temps. .

[KaranTh85]

^^ u can compare the core clocks of 2 gpu's based on the same core. . in the comparison u gave , they have different cores.

:rolleyes: No...I wanna know dat do we have 2 take in2 account the core clock & memory clock while buying a GCard....

OK let me make it simple...:D

give them a priority:

Memory Type(DDR2,DDR3,DDR4)
Core-Clock
Memory-CLock
card version(series...7,8,9..)

so,acc 2 me is this correct:

card version(series...7,8,9..) > Memory Type(DDR2,DDR3,DDR4) > Core-Clock > Memory-CLock

as shown above memory-clock gets lowest & card version gets highest


another question:

U guys always says good PSU 4 Gcard...

Is there any chart/table showing the required PSU(watts) 4 a particular Card:wink:

[DigitalDude]

^^^
to get an idea of PSU needs use this http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html


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[rahulmig]

MSI Service No Issues in Mumbai

[Ambar]

hey i was wondering which one to go for .....

MSI HD 3870 or EVGA 8800 GT ..both being 512 cards...but 8800 performing a little better and being expensive 18k+ ....

my budget is 16k.

ne idea bout the proce of the 3870??

[dOm1naTOr]

8800GT MSI is for 12k. And HD 3870 is for same cost.
8800GT offers better performance while HD 3870 is better future proof. Its ur choice.

BTW for 16k, u can even get 8800GTS 512. Its better than 8800GT.

[sagardani]

No one replied to my thread so posting here. I want AGP gfx card to which I can connect LCD monitor through DVI. Should not be too costly (around 2.5k) and good for HD movies.... nvidia/ati anything will do.....

waiting for reply.... :)

[DigitalDude]

^^^
AGP is like PIII now... ;)


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[sagardani]

^^^But I temporarily want it. I'll change my mobo next year till then I want AGP card to run LCD monitor and watch HD films around 2.5k.. so suggest it.

[sagargv]

^^ 7300 LE or 6200 . but seeing that u have a mobo that has only agp support, ur proccy wont be enough to run hd movies. . so u have to find a hd 2400 / 2600 .. which i think will be very difficult . these cards have AVIVO HD which decode HD content.

[Ambar]

but i think the XFX 8800 GT alpha dog is 15k+ ....whts so gud bout this one???

[quan chi]

@quan_chi

also check whether the speed of your two RAM sticks are the same...

and if possible run a memory integrity check.. (using memtest http://www.memtest.org/)

EDIT:
bah! sagar beat me to it :D

and 8500GT is a pretty low powered card and it doesn't heat much like XFX's 8600GTs.. even some cards are passively cooled ;)

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yes my card is passively cooled.

well i dont know how to check temp on riva tuner.as i am unable to find that option can anybody help me please.


since my card is passively cooled what other things i can do to keep it cool.

and btw i tested bioshock demo on my card and frame rates were not that good but it was playable without any kind of lag in 800x600 resolutions with settings almost high.

btw will my card be able to play games such as nfs carbon and blood money type at highest settings at 800x600 resolutions.will it be able to play games released between 2003-2007 at those settings.
here are the details of my card.http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurationDetails.jspa?series=GeForce%26tra de%3B+8500&productConfigurationId=1385708

[pirates1323]

I have just ordered Geforce-8800GT 512MB DDR3 and G-Skill (1 GB * 2) 800 MHZ... got 4 slots for ram ... so 2 alternative slots for these 800 mhz ... and other 2 alternative slots my old 1gb ddr2 333mhz ...

Old Specs: (CPU-Z: http://i31.tinypic.com/28iukcl.jpg )
Windows Vista Home
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.0 ghz E4400
512 MB DDR2 333 MHZ * 2
160 GB 3G HDD
Intel GMA 950 Graphics

New Specs:
Windows Vista Home
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.0 ghz E4400
512 MB DDR2 333 MHZ * 2
1 GB G-Skill DDR2 800 MHZ * 2
160 GB 3d HDD
Geforce-8800GT 512MB DDR3

will it be ok for improving the overall system performace for gaming... m looking forward to play games like Assassin's Creed,Crysis, BioShock, Unreal Tournament 3..

another thing ... before installing the geforce card into the PCI slot ... should I remove the intel GMA graphics drivers .... and then install the new drivers for geforce 8800gt?

[mayanksharma]

^^specify the C2D processor model!
Apart from that, rest of the config seems nice!
Btw, u should go for >160GB, 250GB atleast! Games like UT-III and Crysis could easily eat up lots of GBs! :)
Ofcourse, u'll see a major performance difference! Believe me u are in for a tr8. (GMA ->8800GT! :D)
yep, uninstall old vga drivers before installing the new card and its drivers.

[pawsingh]

Planning to buy following next month
CPU - E8200 or E8400
Mobo - Abit IP 35E
PSU - POV black diamond 500w
GPU - EVGA 9600GT

Question: Will the PSU be able to handle 9600 GT and if I plan to buy 8800GT will it be able to handle that also.

[pirates1323]

^^specify the C2D processor model!
Apart from that, rest of the config seems nice!
Btw, u should go for >160GB, 250GB atleast! Games like UT-III and Crysis could easily eat up lots of GBs! :)
Ofcourse, u'll see a major performance difference! Believe me u are in for a tr8. (GMA ->8800GT! :D)
yep, uninstall old vga drivers before installing the new card and its drivers.

processor is E4400 ... i hve 160 gb + 40GB of my old pc ... total 240 GB ...

hey i did not upgraded my system yet to geforce 8800gt and 3gb ram ... but I though of running SpeedFan software ... and got this result ..

http://i31.tinypic.com/13za52r.jpg

will after upgradin to geforce 8800gt and 2gb of more RAM will lead more heating problems ?

[KaranTh85]

i hve 160 gb + 40GB ... total 240 GB ...


http://www.techenclave.com/images/smilies/ohyeah.gifI think u need a calci....4 dat:D

Btw r u using both RAMs 333MHz & 800Mhz

[quan chi]

please reply to my post 4916.http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=810046&postcount=4916

[DigitalDude]

^^
I dont know about riva tuner. I dont think what you want to find will be THAT difficult :| just search around or wait for others to reply.

use a good case fan so that there is a good circulation in the case.. inthis way the passively cooled card get some air flow or else use a VGA cooling fan but its not needed.

btw for game compatibility and knowing how well your system will play a game you can check with http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest


@KaranTh85
lol yeah

and btw 'pirates1323' should throw away those 2*512MB sticks.. they are sure to be a bottleneck :lol:


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[quan chi]

^^i checked there.well my card says it supports shader version 4.0.
but there it is showing it has shader version 3.0.
why it is showing like that.
please do reply.

[DigitalDude]

^^^
what shader are you talking about.. pixel shader or vertex shader ?? :D

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[quan chi]

shader model 4.0.i think both comes under it.

[quan chi]

how to check temp using reva tuner.

guys i checked the temperature of my graphics card using this http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1194. well my max temp during gaming goes to 73.

is it bad.

[mayanksharma]

73 degrees is kinda high for GPUs! However, seeing u have 8500GT and ohh that too from XFX, i think the temp is quite normal! :p

[DigitalDude]

^^^
also it is a passively cooled card..
even though the temp is a bit on a higher side :D

@quan_chi
dude use a good case fan or a graphics card cooler ;)


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[quan chi]

^^^
also it is a passively cooled card..
even though the temp is a bit on a higher side :D

@quan_chi
dude use a good case fan or a graphics card cooler ;)


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well is that a fan and can it be attached to the card.how much will it cost.

[sagargv]

^^ no porbs with temp dude. .. its fine for ur card. ..

[Cool G5]

Have a look at this (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86080) thread & comment there.

[pawsingh]

Planning to buy following next month
CPU - E8200 or E8400
Mobo - Abit IP 35E
PSU - POV black diamond 500w
GPU - EVGA 9600GT

Question: Will the PSU be able to handle 9600 GT and if I plan to buy 8800GT will it be able to handle that also.


Bump

[xbonez]

^^ a definite yes to both

[pawsingh]

^Thanks for the confirmation. I have decided to buy a cheap card now and will upgrade to 8800GT later. In other words, not going for 9600GT as I thought earlier that POV 500w may not be able to handle 8800GT

[Cool G5]

Which is the best card under Rs.2k-2.5K??
I wan't a AGP one.
My mobo is MSI PM8M-V.I think it supports AGP 4X cards,but please confirm it.

[uday9484]

Hi to all i was going to upgrade pc
nearly going to finilize abit IP35-E mobo :rolleyes:
and coming to gfx i had some queries hope u all help me
basically i was midcore gamer(RTS and racing) my last played games are Age of empires3 and NFS MW that to way back in 2006 :(
and from there some couple of titles left to play and till now i never played any FPS games
ok ok leave my **** aside

i have choosen 8600GT chipset which suits my req and bill also(5-7K)
i have choosen brand also XFX 8600GT but worried about its users quoting heat issues :confused:
and some users are mentioning it as electric stove :D
and please users of them like "nvidia" and "sagargv" give their reviews

and in 10/2007 issue in digit they have given gold best buy to Asus 8600GT
compare these two or if possible others which is best out of that chipset :cool:

[Sunny1211993]

Hey guys got a ATI 3650 DDR3 512 for my bro's PC and its soooo cool!
Dx10.1,SM 4.1 and many other impressive features for 6.5 K.Now i feel like selling off my 8800 GTSs 512 MB:Dj/k

[sagargv]

Hi to all i was going to upgrade pc
nearly going to finilize abit IP35-E mobo :rolleyes:
and coming to gfx i had some queries hope u all help me
basically i was midcore gamer(RTS and racing) my last played games are Age of empires3 and NFS MW that to way back in 2006 :(
and from there some couple of titles left to play and till now i never played any FPS games
ok ok leave my **** aside

i have choosen 8600GT chipset which suits my req and bill also(5-7K)
i have choosen brand also XFX 8600GT but worried about its users quoting heat issues :confused:
and some users are mentioning it as electric stove :D
and please users of them like "nvidia" and "sagargv" give their reviews

and in 10/2007 issue in digit they have given gold best buy to Asus 8600GT
compare these two or if possible others which is best out of that chipset :cool:

true , old XFX 8600GT udf7 overheated a lot reaching the 90C's for me. .the replacement i got UAL3 is better ( max i've seen is 80C and idles at 60C ) but not all that satisfactory. . .XFX seems to be getting a bad reputation regarding overheating . even the 8800GT alpha dog owners seem to have complaints..

by all means asus 8600GT is much better.. . much cooler.

since u're saying u have a budget of 7k , if u can extend to about 9k , u can get double the performance of 8600GT by getting a 9600GT. . but also be sure to get atleast a cooler master 500W psu in case u opt for 9600GT ..

if u can get a radeon 3850 for around 7-8k , that will also be a much better deal compared to the 8600GT.

[nvidia]

Please have a look at this (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86249)

[anksin]

Hi all i recently purchased nvidia graphix card 7200GS its 256 dedicated
problem i m facing is that comp restarts after certain time
or hangs a bit sometimes
i donno whether its a prob wth card or some thng with my pc
i dont mind returing it back n get a new 1 but i have got this at a very cheap value
plz reply for this

[nvidia]

Are you sure your power supply is giving enough power to run your rig?

[sagargv]

Hi all i recently purchased nvidia graphix card 7200GS its 256 dedicated
problem i m facing is that comp restarts after certain time
or hangs a bit sometimes
i donno whether its a prob wth card or some thng with my pc
i dont mind returing it back n get a new 1 but i have got this at a very cheap value
plz reply for this

whats the temps of ur card ? is it overheating ?

[anksin]

how to do that i mean i removed the card it was heat but when i asked my engineer abt it he says its normal for n e card to get heat
n i havent improved my power supply
should i have to its a pci express card
as i might have mentioned earlier
wat should i for it i m sure there might not b a prob with comp as if m working without card pc works smooth n fine without n e hassles but then why graphic card giving such problem n e way i can solve it

[quan chi]

please answer here.http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86388

[Sandeepfrompune]

SO I also want to go for new system. should I take xfx 8600 GT ?
and in that any minor version sort of I should ask for ? like ual or ...
but not udf7 ????

BTW I heard about GTX card also. is that one better ?

[sagargv]

^^ whats ur budget. . If i were u , i would avoid xfx 8600 , see if u can get evga 8600 . ..

how can u compare a 8800GTX with a 8600GT ? they're in totally different leagues.

[nvidia]

@Sandeepfrompune (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=43240)
Stay away from XFX 8600GT.
You can get Asus 8600GT which has much better cooling...
Whats your budget?

[channabasanna]

Hi All,

For my rig in my signature, which new nvidia based card works fine without any issues. Currently i have XFX 7600GS which i had brought 1 year ago.

I dont want to do Cross Fire or SLI. I need a single card.

[adithya217]

have a pc with the following configuration.


AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
Biostar TA690G AM2
Transcend 2^1 GB DDR2 800MHZ Ram
Viewsonic VA1912WB Monitor

the problem is i brought an XFX 8600GT 256mb gddr3 graphic card.when i put the card in pci-e slot and connect the monitor
to the card's dvi port,the monitor just stays blank saying no signal.i even changed the settings in bios like Initial display first to pci-e and even disabled the onboard graphics but still the problem persists but i can tell that the card is powered because it's fan starts running as soon as i switch the power on.what do i have to do to make the card detected?please help me!

[sagargv]

Hi All,

For my rig in my signature, which new nvidia based card works fine without any issues. Currently i have XFX 7600GS which i had brought 1 year ago.

I dont want to do Cross Fire or SLI. I need a single card.

a evga 8800GT should do fine.. whats ur budget ?

[keith_j_snyder2]

Hi All,

For my rig in my signature, which new nvidia based card works fine without any issues. Currently i have XFX 7600GS which i had brought 1 year ago.

I dont want to do Cross Fire or SLI. I need a single card.

U didn't post any price range!
Considering ur config. i think u can afford a 9800GTX!
Outrageous performance or wait for RV770 (http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/amd-gddr5-memory-is-on-its-way) which has GDDR5!!
And if u are Nvidia fan then wait for 9900 (http://technewstime.com/gadgets-gizmos-news/nvidia-pushing-up-geforce-9900-to-outgun-radeon-hd-4800) or see this (http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/nvidias-big-family)

[channabasanna]

I am planning the card within next 2-3 months, i think max i can afford is 10k - 15k. As i just recently upgraded my current pc. As i will give my old system which had problem to my cousin brother. The motherboard which had problem i got it replaced and my dealer has put a sponge between the motherboard and cabinet.

[Cool G5]

Which brand's 7300 GT AGP card has GDDR3??
And will come under Rs.5 K?

[quan chi]

please dont mind a simple question.:D

is there any more tweaks in the control panel. at almost high settings in 800x600 resolutions i am getting 37-72 fps for nfs most wanted.vsync kept off. :|

[nvidia]

^^switch off anti-aliasing if its turned on..

[quan chi]

most favourite shader model 4 gfx card of all time.
http://www.yougamers.com/hardware/stats/yougamers/alltime/?mainnavi=true

i ran the 3d mark test 06 and at 1024x768 resolutions at the graphical test i was getting only 6-15fps.

dont ask about the cpu test as it cant be faster than core 2 duo.

has anybody here did the test.

[sagargv]

^^ what more can u expect from a 8500GT ?

[quan chi]

^^ what more can u expect from a 8500GT ?

i don't expect it to run present or future games at high settings.:D

but it should run them at mid settings in 800x600.

and games released before 2007 should also run properly isnt it.

well i did a test on f.e.a.r. and at 800x600 every thing maxed out.except
volumetric lightening: off
volumetric light density:low
fsaa: off

here are the results:-
http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.e9f6474a5d.jpg (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?e9f6474a5d.jpg)

[sagargv]

^^ better than a 6600GT i suppose. .

[quan chi]

well can this card be compared to any 7 or 6 series card.:D
i mean is it equivalent to 7300gt.

[yash2006]

my big 7600gs is not working with window vista it is giving error code 43.i checked it on card manufacturer site and it says that card is vista compatible.I've installed all latest and old drivers for my card but no help.plz help.

[prospeak]

Hey guys i need some help ...

i'm planning to get a new graphic card in under 10 k range.......
performance is a priority as i already have the following config bought at the end of jan.

e6550,
intel dg33fb,
xfx 8600 gt(256 ddr3),
i-ball cabinet ( with stock smps m not sure abt 400w or 450w)
2X1gb (667mhz) ddr2 ram in dual channel

i think this is all the info that is required .....
8600 is not a bad card(can run anything at 1024X768 but when i bought it 8800 series started at 14000/-
and the card in b/w was 8600 gts which is overpriced( my opinion )4 just an overclocked card.

i need a card 2 run crysis and assassin's creed at max ( 1280 X 1024 )

Ati cards are fairly compatible wth intel processor n mobo right?

i m not sure abt ati or nvidia( . . . as in what to buy )

sorry 4 the post getting bigger but it would be a huge help if u can quote the prices too.
Any help will be apprecated

Thanks

P.S : plan to buy it mid june.

[sagargv]

^^ to early to decide if u're intending to buy in june. .rite now , gigabyte / MSI / evga 8800GT is a good choice.

[Rudick]

I currently have a 7600GT. Is there any 9600GT offering in 5-8k price bracket? If not then any chances of price drop soon? By soon I mean by July-August:smile:

[ancientrites]

attention digitians
my graohic card info under techpower gpu-z.1.7
gpu temperature 66.5 c
pcb temperature 59.8
fan speed 60%
fan speed 1627 rpm
no overclock,no rivatuner nothing my question is the temperature alrite?or should i need something.i observed while playing vegas2 gpu and pcb goes up to 69.5 and 60.5.is THIS OK????

[nvidia]

^^The temperatures are fine, nothing to worry about.
My 8600GT goes upto 91C while playing games and 109C when i run 3D mark triangle test... See this (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86249)

[duron111]

Memory (RAM): 2030 MB
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
CPU Speed: 2199.4 MHz
Sound card: SRS Labs Audio Sandbox
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 6600
Network Adapters: Intel(R) 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection -
Hard Disks: C: 250GB | D: 70GB
Manufacturer: Intel Corp.
BIOS Info: AT/AT COMPATIBLE | 05/02/07 | INTEL - d8
Motherboard: Intel Corporation DG33FB
Mointor:Samsung Sync Master 793s
this is my presnt config.
i will be buying a Dell SP2208WFP 22"(with a max res of 1680 x 1050)
my concern is will my present grafic card support this screen?!!!
i am also planning u upgrade my grafic card in a couple of months .
i have my eyes on GeForce 9800 GX2 or GeForce 9800 GTX,my question is will i have to change my mother board ?or add extra cooling ? also will i need to change my SMPS ?
also i do some animation work and play a lot of games so will i also need to increase my ram ??to 4 GB ?

[sagargv]

^^ ram is enough. no need for new mobo . .extra cooling may not be needed ( mostly ) . yes , u'll HAVE to change the smps.

[uday9484]

true , old XFX 8600GT udf7 overheated a lot reaching the 90C's for me. .the replacement i got UAL3 is better ( max i've seen is 80C and idles at 60C ) but not all that satisfactory. . .XFX seems to be getting a bad reputation regarding overheating . even the 8800GT alpha dog owners seem to have complaints..

by all means asus 8600GT is much better.. . much cooler.

since u're saying u have a budget of 7k , if u can extend to about 9k , u can get double the performance of 8600GT by getting a 9600GT. . but also be sure to get atleast a cooler master 500W psu in case u opt for 9600GT ..

if u can get a radeon 3850 for around 7-8k , that will also be a much better deal compared to the 8600GT.
is there any diff in price between UDF7 and UAL3 and just follow this link
http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?series=GeForce%26trade%3B+ 8600&seriesId=1054321&productId=1054324#

from above what are available models in india(mean HYD)

[Rudick]

I currently have a 7600GT. Is there any 9600GT offering in 5-8k price bracket? If not then any chances of price drop soon? By soon I mean by July-August:smile:

Hello, Any reply to this people!:rolleyes:

[sagargv]

@uday , i'm sorry . i dont have the answers to ur question. .but i hardly think u need any help regarding this . goto the market and find out .. try pm'ing cooldude1 ( Mr.Rahul from theitwares ). make a phone call to rashi periperals . ( visit rptechindia.com to find the phone numbers ).

@rudick , better stick to ur 7600GT for now. . palit 9600GT is the cheapest and costs about 9.4k ..besides, taking a 9600GT will mean u need atleast a cooler master 500W smps .. price drop . i think it might happen with the introduction of radeon 48xx series which is expected in june..

[ionicsachin]

I ve got a EVGA 9600GT Knock Out......great card man....in Crysis even on 1280x960 with 8xAAand AF i get 20-30FPS even at most graphically strong places.....
My question is that afetr playing Crysis i find my cards temperature at around 70C....and at ideal it is 58C...is it ok??
and also when i touch my G.Skill RAMS(not overclocked) they are a bit hot...

[sagargv]

dont know abt the ram . but the g-card's temps are fine. . but i would like to know how you found out the temp as the temps go down pretty fast when they're high.. use riva tuner to log temp while playing games and then find the peak temp .. if its below 80C , then its fine. i'm quite sure this will be the case and u have no overheating problem.

[ionicsachin]

i ve got 2GB of Performance RAM....so when i reach desktop by Alt-Tab it gives no prob...the peaks what i ve got is 73c....not more then that

[nish_higher]

^ gskill rams heat more than a value ram,if you are comparing with it..
in fact all performance rams do..

I've added a Corsair dominator cooler over my rams and overclocked to 1150mhz

Card temperature is absolutely normal..i.e. EVGA \XFX \ MSI 9600GT heat up like this..the only card thats cooler is Asus 9600GT with a custom cooler ( which i have ) ..38degrees idle and max 44degrees @ load

[ionicsachin]

Actually the sticks are in Dual channel mode....and i have hefty wires of Corsair 450VX all around....so i feel the second stick is hindered.....even when touch them i find that the second stick is hotter....

[mayanksharma]

in Crysis even on 1280x960 with 8xAAand AF i get 20-30FPS even at most graphically strong places.....
At 8X AA and 8XAF??? U sure, what u are saying? What are the card's clocks during gaming in Crysis?? If possible, attach the screenshots of Sphere/Ice with same settings u mentioned along with FPS.

[keith_j_snyder2]

..besides, taking a 9600GT will mean u need atleast a cooler master 500W smps ..

One of my friend has XFX 8800GT Alpha Dog Edition, and he is using a CM Extreme 430W PSU without any issues.
9600GT requires and consume less power than 8800GT!

Hey guys i need some help ...

i'm planning to get a new graphic card in under 10 k range.......
performance is a priority as i already have the following config bought at the end of jan.

e6550,
intel dg33fb,
xfx 8600 gt(256 ddr3),
i-ball cabinet ( with stock smps m not sure abt 400w or 450w)
2X1gb (667mhz) ddr2 ram in dual channel

i think this is all the info that is required .....
8600 is not a bad card(can run anything at 1024X768 but when i bought it 8800 series started at 14000/-
and the card in b/w was 8600 gts which is overpriced( my opinion )4 just an overclocked card.

i need a card 2 run crysis and assassin's creed at max ( 1280 X 1024 )

Ati cards are fairly compatible wth intel processor n mobo right?

i m not sure abt ati or nvidia( . . . as in what to buy )

sorry 4 the post getting bigger but it would be a huge help if u can quote the prices too.
Any help will be apprecated

Thanks

P.S : plan to buy it mid june.

Get 9600GT, its under 10,000/- range!

Memory (RAM): 2030 MB
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
CPU Speed: 2199.4 MHz
Sound card: SRS Labs Audio Sandbox
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce 6600
Network Adapters: Intel(R) 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection -
Hard Disks: C: 250GB | D: 70GB
Manufacturer: Intel Corp.
BIOS Info: AT/AT COMPATIBLE | 05/02/07 | INTEL - d8
Motherboard: Intel Corporation DG33FB
Mointor:Samsung Sync Master 793s
this is my presnt config.
i will be buying a Dell SP2208WFP 22"(with a max res of 1680 x 1050)
my concern is will my present grafic card support this screen?!!!
i am also planning u upgrade my grafic card in a couple of months .
i have my eyes on GeForce 9800 GX2 or GeForce 9800 GTX,my question is will i have to change my mother board ?or add extra cooling ? also will i need to change my SMPS ?
also i do some animation work and play a lot of games so will i also need to increase my ram ??to 4 GB ?

Those monster cards require Dual 6 pin power connectors. So Corsair HX620 is better choice for either of the cards.

For that resolution, u can also look at 512MB 8800GTS, that will be fine.

[niax]

HI there guyzz...
i've got a prob with my card/riva tuner
when i increase the fan speed to 100% and start the game,it comes back to 30% shortly and the temp shoots up...any way i can make it to run at 100% all time???i have 8600gts xfx

[Cool G5]

I just plugged 7300gt AGP in my system & now I am getting the famous Insufficient power message, everytime windows boots.

I checked my PSU, but there isn't any specification on it. So how can i make out it's wattage? Any soft for this?

Also Nvidia suggested some extra power cable to plug in the card, whereas I did not got the cable with the card. Is it sold seperately? At what price?

[rutvijt]

I have selected 8800GT. In a dilema over which Brand to go for. Any suggestions?

[Cool G5]

I have selected 8800GT. In a dilema over which Brand to go for. Any suggestions?

Go for ASUS.

[yash2006]

hi guys ,plz tell me is 7600gs vista compatible?mine is showing eror code 43 under vista.plz help.urgent.