All Graphics Cards related queries here.

[rollcage]

^ so which one is good? I mean model n brand

and

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=6&l3=514

Why so many ASUS 8600GT

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^^ Any one with a fan!

[rollcage]

^^^ Any one with a fan! You saying all are same .. then whats the diff. why they comeup with so many versions / make us fool or wat :confused:

[keith_j_snyder2]

Its the cooler dude! It should be a copper cooler with large fins. Asus uses larger fins thats why its cooling is better!

[rollcage]

Its the cooler dude! It should be a copper cooler with large fins. Asus uses larger fins thats why its cooling is better!Ya I got what you saying .. that the good copper heatsink and fan from asus is better .. done ok :)

but buddy .. i am asking just for the knowledge sake ..

whats the difference between these..

EN8600GT/HTDP/256M

EN8600GT/HTDI/256M

EN8600GT OC GEAR/HTDP/256M

EN8600GT TOP/HTDP/256M

EN8600GTS SILENT/HTDP/256M

EN8600GT SILENT/HTDP/256M

EN8600GTS/G/HTDP/256M

EN8600GT/2DHT/256M

EN8600GTS/HTDP/256M



Not joking man
.. I seriously want to know,
why the difference.
and not everyone commenting on this..
dont we here to share knowledge
and this thing is not there on google either :rolleyes:

[devips]

What do you think of ATI RADEON x1950 HD card? does it perform well? How does it compare with NVIDIA 8600 GT cards?

[keith_j_snyder2]

Compare the specs dude.
Look out for the more:
1. Core clock (Engine Clock).
2. Memory Clock.
- EN8600GT/HTDP/256M : 14°c cooler than reference design boards!!! - Runs cooler than others.
- EN8600GT/HTDI/256M : Comes with HDMI adapter!!
- EN8600GT TOP/HTDP/256M - Overclocked Edition - gives better performance.
- EN8600GT OC GEAR/HTDP/256M : U can manually overclock this card with just a spin of of a knob!

Every card has its own advantage. U have to choose which suits you the best.
If i was in your place i would have picked either EN8600GT/HTDP/256M or EN8600GT TOP/HTDP/256M.

What do you think of ATI RADEON x1950 HD card? does it perform well? How does it compare with NVIDIA 8600 GT cards?

X1950 is a great card and when compared with 8600GT, well X1950 is a better performer!
8600GT = Dx10, SM=4.0
X1950 = Dx 9.0C, SM=3.0

X1950 eats more power so it require external power!
8600GT requires less power so it draws power from PCI-E slot!

[nvidia]

What do you think of ATI RADEON x1950 HD card? does it perform well? How does it compare with NVIDIA 8600 GT cards?
Its an old card without DX10 support. Even the 8600GT is outdated now... And ATI has already released DX10.1 cards.. Its pointless in buying this card IMO.

[devips]

Thanks Keith, and Nvidia8800. Do Ati have any sub-Rs 10000 DX10 compliant card? In case I go for Calibre P60 card, will that be a poor choice compared to Ati x1950?

[nvidia]

ATI RX3850PRO costs approx 12k.
It performs better than the 8600GT. But not as good as the 8800GT AFAIK. and it supports DX 10.1

[sagargv]

i think 3850 is a terrible buy at 12k . might as well spend 2k more to get the 8800GT

[nvidia]

^^Yeah.. But if you are on a tight budget and cant spend 2k more, then theres nothing wrong with the card..

[keith_j_snyder2]

Guys for 12500/- u can get an overclocked MSI 8800GT 512!

[sagargv]

if thats the case , mostly 9600GT wont stand a chance. .

[nvidia]

^^Once 9600GT is released, the price of 8800GT might come down to 10k or less...

[zeest]

^^ +1. I am also waiting for a 9600GT. Thats why my upgrade is also at wait.

[dOm1naTOr]

MSI ATI HD 3850 512MB OC one costs just 10.4k. And this 512 MB one perform close to HD 3870 512.

And HD 3850 256 is around 9k.

[sagargv]

pretty good. . .so a 9600GT vs. 3850 to go . i think 9600 will win marginally. .

[devips]

MSI ATI HD 3850 512MB OC one costs just 10.4k. And this 512 MB one perform close to HD 3870 512.

And HD 3850 256 is around 9k.

How does HD 3850 compare with 8800 GT?

[keith_j_snyder2]

8800 GT outperforms than 3870!
But 8800 GT will be a better choice than 9600 GT.
9600 GT is replacing 8600GT but with 256 Bit option.

[sagargv]

true if 8800GT and 9600GT are priced approx same. . but if the 9600GT is priced at 9k , it will be a better choice. . but never the less , its a really good mid range card.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Its supposed to come at less than 9K. Because 8800GT will also face price cut after sometime.
So i believe 8800 GT should come around 10K and at this price point the 8800 GT is a better choice but one has wait for the benchmarks!

[dhanusaud]

Hellor Guys,

One simple question. I have ASRock 775i45GV motherboard & planning to purchase a graphics card, which would run microsoft windows vista as well as some games. By the way I have purchased XFX 7300GT 512MB but it is in 16x, which motherborad I have doesn't support instead it supports 4x/8x graphics card. Could anybody plz help to choose the right Graphics Card?

Becoz I hv already loosed 4k in XFX 7300GT.

[sagargv]

wats ur budget ? if u can get radeon hd 2600xt , its pretty good.

[BULLZI]

http://forums.erodov.com/showthread.php?t=5071

Have

http://forums.erodov.com/showthread.php?t=5071

Have a look. So finally 9600 GT is coming out by Feb end. Price seems to be more or less economical. :)

[dhanusaud]

wats ur budget ? if u can get radeon hd 2600xt , its pretty good.

Budget, no problem.
I just want to buy AGP card which could be capable to enable vista aero features. As my motherboard is Intel 845 from ASRock running Intel Pentium 4 HT 3.0 Ghz, 1GB of RAM, 160GB of HDD.:confused:

For more information please click this link http://www.asrock.com/mb/vga.asp?Model=775i45GV and verify the best model listed there, as my motherboard is not compatible with 16x interface.

[entrana]

to be honest i doubt there is any agp that supports aero

[nvidia]

^^I think the FX series cards(which are AGP) is supported by AERO.

[jack_the_ripper]

i have an MSI RS480 mobo with a PCI-X slot.. can u suggest me an ATI gfx card for 5000?

[zeest]

Yes. FX cards are definitely supported by AERO.

[keith_j_snyder2]

i have an MSI RS480 mobo with a PCI-X slot.. can u suggest me an ATI gfx card for 5000?

HD2600XT 256MB DDR3!
or
Wait for official launch of HD3650XT!

[ankushkool]

PLEZ HELP!!! i m soo confused!!!

i hav to buy mobo+processor+graphics... my budget is <20000/-

now i decided 2 compromise on mobo+processor 4 a better graphics card... but then thought as i am not a hardcore gamer... i sud be ok with 8600GT.
i still had a serious battle goin on in my head weather 2 go 4 8600gt 7 good mobo+pro... or 2 compromise on it n go 4 8800gt
AND NOW!!! here comes 9600GT??? HELPPPPP

here is what i had shortlisted...

MOBO:
XFX 630i - 7150
XFX n force 650i ultra
Asus P5N-E SLI/P5N32
XFX nvidia 680i LT SLI
MSI P35 Neo/platinum
MSI P6N SLI


PROC:
C2D E4400
C2D E6750
*all other C2D between are discontinued

GRAPHICS CARD:
Asus EN8600GT
XFX 8800GT
and now 9600GT
*anyone thinks i sud go 4 ATI???

PHEW!!!

NOW ppl... i need serious helppppppppppppppppp

[sagargv]

stop double posting

[ankushkool]

sorry dude it was kindda urgent :)

[nvidia]

I think its wise if you wait until the 9series cards come and then get a 8800GT. It should come down to 10k or less..

[ankushkool]

but 9600 will support DX10.1... and de performance will be at par with 8800GT
isnt it better 2 go 4 it if its around 9000/-

[nvidia]

^^IF its cheaper then i think you can go with it... But you have to wait to see how it actually performs... I dont think its better than 8800GT

[zeest]

No, it performs equal to 8800GS. 8800GT is a step ahead of 9600GT. 9600GT will cost arnd 10k approx. Wait till 21st FEB when its released.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Dude! We can understand ur problem but stop yelling!
Ok here waht should be the perfect rig for u:

1. MSI 8800GT OC = 12500/-
2. MSI K9AGM3-F= 2800/-
3. AMD X2 4800+ = 4200/-

Guys Bad NEWS:
Check http://technewstime.com/hardware-news/9600gt-recalled-9800x2-delayed

[monkey]

but 9600 will support DX10.1... and de performance will be at par with 8800GT
isnt it better 2 go 4 it if its around 9000/-

Chip guys have received the test sample of 9600GT from NVidia. They say that its gonna cost around 10k and will NOT support DX10.1.

[dOm1naTOr]

WILL NOT!!!!!!! are ya sure?
Then whats da diff in that nd 8800GT?
its sure a mistake from dat guys[chip]

[ankushkool]

Go for ATi's 3550 instead, as they offer similar performance at lower price. From what I know, 3550 equals or beats 8600GT X2 SLi.

And yea, it costs only Rs. 6k max.

is it better 2 go for ATI's 3550 insted of 8600GT?

[dOm1naTOr]

HD 3670 makes more sense as thats the one which replaces H current HD 2600XT. And HD 3670 comes with 512MB DDR3 nd more power than current HD 2600XT which performs same as 8600GT.

[MetalheadGautham]

is it better 2 go for ATI's 3550 insted of 8600GT?
ATI 3550 is in the same level as 9600GT, and supportd directx 10.1. 3550 has even defeated 8600GT SLI.

[prateek_san]

guys im looking forward in buying a new GPU ...is 8600 GT/GTS will come under 7k..if yes then will it work with Intel 915 GAG Mobo..and will all games like NFS carbon/Pro streets will they run fine with this card...it has a PCI Ex x16 slot ..

any other GPU suggestion r welcome...

[MetalheadGautham]

guys im looking forward in buying a new GPU ...is 8600 GT/GTS will come under 7k..if yes then will it work with Intel 915 GAG Mobo..and will all games like NFS carbon/Pro streets will they run fine with this card...it has a PCI Ex x16 slot ..

any other GPU suggestion r welcome...
ATI HD3xxx series are rather excellent today.

[prateek_san]

ATI HD3xxx series are rather excellent today.

wat is the price range...cuz my budget is max 7 k ..............

[BULLZI]

A 9600 GT review. Dont know if already posted anywhere in the forum.
It says G94 GPU.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/129...ion/index.html

[nvidia]

^^Can you post the direct link to that review?

[BULLZI]

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1293

Sorry for the inconvenience:(.

[monkey]

Here is one link for 9600GT reveiew: http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/01/14/nvidia-geforce-9600gt-review

[nvidia]

The card is a bit noisy and hotter compared to the 8800GT. And performance is equal or a little less compared to the 8800GT:|

[BULLZI]

^^
Yes u r rite. A little performance boost over HD3870 and not too far behind from 8800GT. Who knows, if 9800GTX is priced quite high, the best choice for most of the gamers will still be 8800GT/GTS 512 MB ignoring the fact that a new GPU architecture has hit the market :).

[nvidia]

^^Even the 8800GTX will be cheaper when that comes out, maybe it will cost 15-20k. So those who are having budget less than 20k can get that, and 8800GT price will surely come down to 9-10k, at that price the VFM will be very high

[ankushkool]

ATI HD3xxx series are rather excellent today.
so sud i prefer HD3xxx over 8600GT... which one sud i get... my buget is 6-8k

[BULLZI]

u shud definitely prefer HD3XXX series over 8600GT.
go for HD3850 512 MB
It performs better than 8600GT as well as got DX10.1 support (Though DX 10.1 has least importance rite now)
:).

[ankushkool]

whats de price?

and is it possible to run 2 HD3850... togeather... like 8600 or 8800???
is that call SLI/crossfire... have no idea... plez help

[sagargv]

yup u can crossfire . .. but its better to buy a 3870x2 than going for 3850 crossfire.

[BULLZI]

^^
But he said budget abt 20K.
The card itself costs 22.5 K, isnt it??

[nvidia]

^^Yes... The 3870X2 costs ~22k.
Whats your budget btw?

[BULLZI]

Actually he said that his budget ~ 20K for the following :

proccy + mobo + gfx

[MetalheadGautham]

@ankush: I recomend an intel E8400 for 8.5k as processor

then go for a HD3550 graphics card, thats equal to a 8600GT SLi, but costs only 6k, and 7k overclocked.

Remaining 5.5 k on a decent motherboard.

[nvidia]

@gautham: Is the 3550 available in India?

[MetalheadGautham]

@gautham: Is the 3550 available in India?
yes, but price varies a lot.(you might want to tey changing your name to nvidia9800gx2 to make it up to data :p)

[nvidia]

^^Lolz...
Actually.. I had sent a PM to Asfaq first to change my name to nvida9800. But unfortunately he is not the admin now and he did not change my name.. Then i sent a PM to FatBeing asking to change it to nvidia... I didnt want to change my name every 6 months(that is every time a new card comes out)...:p

[keith_j_snyder2]

^^^ May be u should change your name to FX5200...then u won't need to change your name because u at that time u already have become a legend!
Lolz....Just kiddin'

@gautham: Is the 3550 available in India?

Will be available after the launch of 9600GT!

@ankush: I recomend an intel E8400 for 8.5k as processor

then go for a HD3550 graphics card, thats equal to a 8600GT SLi, but costs only 6k, and 7k overclocked.

Remaining 5.5 k on a decent motherboard.

U sure about that it will perform same as 8600GT SLI....as in single card?
I think 8600GT SLI performs better than 3850!

[sagargv]

3550 ? wen did it launch . i dont see reviews on toms or xbitlabs. . cud u give a link ?

[nvidia]

Guys the 9600GT is out in India...
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80814

[jeetest]

hey i m using mercury (kobian PI845GLM ) can u Suggest me which graphic card shoul i use plz help me here are some detail about my pc hey can i use nvidia 6600????

General Information :
Manufacturer : KOBIAN
Product : PI845GLM
Version : 1.0
Serial Number : 00000000
Support MP : Yes, 1 CPU(s)
Version MPS : 1.4

Chassis Information :
Manufacturer : KOBIAN
Type : Desktop
Version : 1.0
Serial Number : 00000000
Asset : 0123ABC

Sensor Information :
Monitoring Chip : Winbond W83637HF

Slots Information :
Slot PCI : In Use (32-bit) 3.3v, Shared Slot Opening
Slot PCI : Available (32-bit) 3.3v, Shared Slot Opening
Slot PCI : Available (32-bit) 3.3v, Shared Slot Opening

External Connectors :
SSA SCSI : DB25 male

Internal Connectors :
USB : Mini Centronics

System Configuration Options :
Option #1 : System Management BIOS from Atlanta
Option #2 : SMBIOS from AMI

[nvidia]

Your motherboard has an AGP 8x slot. It will be best if you change your motherboard and processor and then get a graphics card. Getting an AGP card is pointless now...

[niax]

hi there all of u ppl.....

Actually i need your help and its important...
i'm having:
intel c2d@2.66ghz
1gb ddr2(2x512mb)
mobo with p35 chipset or something(4RAM slots)
400W PSU
xfx8600GTS(675 core clock)

i'm new to this gfx cards thingy and only know to get the latest drivers from nvidia.com and run riva tuner and OC my gpu to 710MHZ(to be on the safe side) and increse the fan speed run the game and thats all...i'm not satisfied with the results and dunn where is the bottle neck

What i wanna do is:
know the upper limit of ocing for me
wha is the max safe temp for this card
how can i oc my processor give mobo doesnt support it
plus i want to inc my RAM to 2gb..is it ok if i buy a single 1gb chip
and all the possible tricks and tweaks usefull to extract the jiuce of ma rig and kindly use language a noob can understand

hope u understand my situ and frustrations..

[nvidia]

i'm not satisfied with the results and dunn where is the bottle neck

If you can get additional 5-10FPS, then thats good.. You cant expect your 8600GTS to perform like 8800GT once you overclcok it.


know the upper limit of ocing for me
There is no particular upper limit. It depends on various factors like, the cooling in your cabinet etc.


wha is the max safe temp for this card
Upto 80C under load is ok for your graphics card

how can i oc my processor give mobo doesnt support it
Your motherboard supports OCing AFAIK.

plus i want to inc my RAM to 2gb..is it ok if i buy a single 1gb chip
Yes.

hope u understand my situ and frustrations..Over clocking requires patience.

[niax]

Thanx for the insight.

How can i oc my processor.... i guess there is no ocing option in my bios

[entrana]

i dont think u shud or can oc ur cpu when ur bios doesnt support it

[nvidia]

Thanx for the insight.

How can i oc my processor.... i guess there is no ocing option in my bios
Youre welcome. Please mention correctly which motherboard you have... Most of the newer motherboards allow you to change atleast your FSB which will be enuf to OC your processor a little...

[monkey]

Hey check this out: http://yantraonline.in/Product.asp?SubCatId=8

It looks like 9600GT has already reached 10k (or below level). Or is it that XFX thinks their 9600GT cards are worth 14k!!?? What do you say?

[nvidia]

^^XFX is somewhat overpriced. The 8800GT costs 16-18k where as MSI 8800GT costs just 12.5k.

[entrana]

xfx 8800gt costs only 13k

[nvidia]

^^Are you sure about that?

[dOm1naTOr]

its the oc versions of XFX and XXX one thats costly.

[nvidia]

I think the prices of XFX 8800GT are not updated in itwares.

[gx_saurav]

Hey, does GeForce 9 series supports DirectX 10.1?

[nvidia]

^^No.
Get ATI 3xxx series cards if you want DX 10.1.
Plannin to buy a new one?;) Whats your budget?

[nish_higher]

no,
none of 9 series is going to support DX10.1

[gx_saurav]

Is the mid-range of ATI 3xxx series out?

[nvidia]

^^Yeah...
You can get the 3850 for about 11k

[gx_saurav]

Hmm...leave it. I have decided to buy graphics card next month along with LCD Monitor. By that time the price will be reduced & 11k is a lot to pay. I want AMD Radeon 3600 series at max.

From a consumer point of view, Direct10.1 sounds juicy & tempting, but from someone who knows the inside of Windows & DirectX 10, it is useless.

Thanx for the info.

[nvidia]

^^Ure welcome:)
I think it will reduce to about 9k by next month.
If you can spend 12k then you can get 8800GT from MSI.
Btw, whats the main improvement in DX10.1?

[nish_higher]

Source-Wikipedia :))

Direct3D 10.1 was announced by Microsoft shortly after the release of Direct3D 10. It will be a minor update to the Direct3D 10 interface, adding features that had to be left out of the initial specification. Direct3D 10.1 sets a few more image quality standards for graphics vendors, and gives developers more control over image quality.[15] Its feature will be supported exclusively by new hardware.
The Direct3D 10.1 API will be included with Windows Vista SP1, which is currently in beta. The specification was finalized with the release of November 2007 DirectX SDK. [1] Direct3D 10.1 will be backwards compatible with Direct3D 10.0 hardware, but the new features will not be available until 10.1 compliant hardware is released. The only available Direct3D 10.1 hardware as of November 2007 is the Radeon HD 3000 series from ATI. NVIDIA will not be releasing any hardware to support Direct3D 10.1, the first GeForce 9 cards to be released will use GPUs from GeForce 8 series cards which support up to Direct3D 10.0. NVIDIA plans to go straight to Direct3D 11; but the first GPU specific to GeForce 9 series, is scheduled to be released before Direct3D 11.[16]
Direct3D 10.1 features bigger control over antialiasing (both multisampling AND supersampling with per sample shading and application control over sample position), more flexibilities to some of the existing features (cubemap arrays, independent blending modes). Direct3D 10.1 hardware must support the following features:

Mandatory 32-bit floating point filtering
Mandatory 4x anti-aliasing
Shader model 4.1

[nvidia]

^^Cool.. Thanks:D

[gx_saurav]

The primary improvement in DX10.1 is to further reduce the overhead of GPU & the code. It's true that pure DirectX 10.1 based games will give more performance then pure DirectX 10 games, but it will be max 5 or 10% improvement.

It makes sence for the developers to skip DX10.1 compleately.

For my own needs, a GeForce 8600GT supports DirectX 10 & OpenGL 2.0 which is good enough for my workstation needs due to which I don't want to look further. I know that Quadro is better for workstation but let Autodesk & Softimage release proper products for Windows Vista.

[kalpik]

From a consumer point of view, Direct10.1 sounds juicy & tempting, but from someone who knows the inside of Windows & DirectX 10, it is useless.
Windows or DirectX 10.1? Heh.. Kidding man.. I know im REALLY offtopic, but i JUST couldn't help myself from pulling your leg :D

Sorry to disrupt the flow of this thread :)

P.S.: Any provocative replies to this post will be mysteriously deleted.

[gx_saurav]

DirectX 10.1 over DirectX 10 from a consumer point of view is useless.

If you are buying a new graphics card, make sure it is DX 10.1

If you already have a DX 10 gfx card, stick to it,

[kalpik]

^^ I know what you meant. Was just kidding :p

[nvidia]

Mandatory 4x anti-aliasing

Wont this affect the performance of the card?

[nish_higher]

^ no ..because no game will support DX10.1,ever

[nvidia]

^ no ..because no game will support DX10.1,ever
Why not? then whats the point in having DX10.1?

[nish_higher]

Source-http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=43500

Cita: August 8, 2007
Microsoft Presents DirectX 10.1 Details at SIGGRAPH
By Jason Cross
discuss Discuss this now (1 posts)
At the SIGGRAPH graphics conference, Microsoft gave a presentation detailing some of the changes coming in DirectX 10.1. Those that are interested can view the presentation slides here. The highlights are as follows:

* DirectX 10.1 is a series of extensions to DirectX 10
* It's supported by upcoming graphics hardware, but not current DX10 hardware
* It requires (and will be part of) Vista Service Pack 1

This is business as usual, as far as DirectX is concerned. DX 10.1 hardware will be backwards compatible with DirectX 10, but current DX10 hardware won't be forward compatible. So games looking to support DX 10.1 still need a DX 10 rendering path to support today's DX10 cards. Think of it like when Microsoft released DirectX 9.0c with added Shader Model 3.0 support. Also, don't worry too much about it requiring SP1 (which isn't out yet). The DX 10.1 SDK only recently was made available, and by the time supporting hardware and DX10.1 are released to end users somewhere in the first half of 2008, SP1 should be readily available.

What are the changes? DX 10.1's goals are to offer the "complete" DX 10, giving developers better control over image quality and making mandatory some of the things that are optional in DX 10. For example, 32-bit floating point filtering is optional in DX10 (16-bit FP filtering is mandatory), but will be mandatory in DX 10.1. Also, in DX 10, the number of multisample anti-aliasing samples is optional—DX 10.1 will make 4x AA mandatory, and require two specific sample patterns. Graphics cards can offer more sample patterns, and developers can query them in their shaders. Graphics cards that are DX 10.1 compliant will have to offer programmable shader output sample masks and multisample AA depth readback. Game developers will be able to index into cube maps and perform bitwise copies from uncompressed textures to block-compressed texture formats.
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If that's a bunch of gobbledygook to you, don't sweat it. The main takeaway is this: DirectX 10.1 is a straightforward incremental update to DX 10 that forces graphics vendors to adhere to a few more set standards with regards to image quality and a couple other under-the-hood graphics features, mainly to give games more control over image quality.



Also Nvidia has decided to directly jump to DX 11 so it is more clear about games now (otherwise Nvidia will be doomed).

[nvidia]

Hmmm... But hows that related to this-
no game will support DX10.1,ever

[nish_higher]

^ consider 10.1 as a patch for dx 10 to hype gaming quality (it gives more control over image quality).its like killing the gaming industry since not many games are DX10 ones.why would games be developed for it?
Nvidia's idea of dx11 compatible card and not having dx10.1 card clearly shows no game will be developed direct x 10.1,otherwise 9 series would already have been DX 10.1 compatible

[sagargv]

but if nvidia chooses to skip 10.1 and go over to 11 , i dont think any game manufacturer will release a "10.1 only" game.

and evidence so far suggests that nvidia IS doing that . 8800GT , 9600GT and the romoured 9800gx2 is also to support only dx10 . most certainly nvidia is downlaying dx10.1

[ajayashish]

which one is the best card to buy for now... if we use Single or in SLI mode... what will be the best buy

[entrana]

8800gt is the best budget card available right now

[nvidia]

^^If you have the money then 2 8800GT in SLI will be awesome... Whats your budget?

[ajayashish]

^^If you have the money then 2 8800GT in SLI will be awesome... Whats your budget?

which company... i can spend 50k for a combo of Mobo... processor... ram .. graphic card... and cabinet

[nvidia]

which company... i can spend 50k for a combo of Mobo... processor... ram .. graphic card... and cabinet
You can get the MSI 8800GT - 12k
Processor - Q6600 ~ 11k
Motherboard - some good one within 10k
Ram - 2GB - 2k

For a better suggestion, goto the "basic guide to purchase new system thread":)

[gx_saurav]

Just asking out of curiosity, if I want to buy a GeForce 8600GT Graphics card with 256 MB RAM, which brands & model should I go for. There will be no overclocking & hardly any gaming.

[nish_higher]

i think digit once provided a review of gfx cards in which Asus 8600GT performed better than 8600GTS

[keith_j_snyder2]

Might be a fluke!
But GTS supposed to be better than GT!

[ancientrites]

i was wondering when 9800gtx would be release and what would be price.any news?

[dOm1naTOr]

But even the already existing HD 3870X2 beats 9800GX2 and 9800GTX.
http://sg.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=5614
and not DX 10.1 also.
And HD 3870 X2 is undergoin serious price drop now.

[ancientrites]

hoping to see some fine drivers tuning on 9800gtx to spice up the competition.i would still buy standard 9800gtx instead 9800gx2 or any other overclocked future graphic cards.
Speaking of ati cards i had never had them nor tried it.Some how the word ati looks suspense then i see amd ati together.heheh whats going on lmao... just a thought guyz

[dOm1naTOr]

nyways, single GPU cards are better to own than any dual GPU. im most cases dual GPU setup faces random speedups or slowdowns irrespective of v-sync or so. This stands true for both SLI and crossfire.

[nish_higher]

Might be a fluke!
But GTS supposed to be better than GT!
not really
check October 2007 digit.

[The_Devil_Himself]

Just asking out of curiosity, if I want to buy a GeForce 8600GT Graphics card with 256 MB RAM, which brands & model should I go for. There will be no overclocking & hardly any gaming.
evga if you could get from US of A.

anything exept XFX here in India.XFX 8600gt's sucks.

[nish_higher]

yea don't buy XFX 8600GT,9600Gt,..etc :))
EVGA and ASUS both have factory overclocked cores.ASUS 8600GT costs exactly same as XFX 8600gt stock.i dont know abt EVGA

[gx_saurav]

Ok, I don't want overclocked versions. Asus, MSI etc are quite costly. Why not go for XFX?????

There is one card, Xpert Vision GeForce 8600GT with 512 MB DDR3 memory available for Rs 6,600. How is it?

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^xfx 8600gt's have heating problems,ell other xfx are just fine.

512mb ddr3 is overkill for 8600gt so a waste of money.

get POV or any other brand man,asus and msi are damn overpriced even now.

[gx_saurav]

PoV 8600GT 256 MB GDDR3 is for Rs 5,900.

512 MB DDR2 cards will help in 3D studio Max compared to 256 MB DDR32

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^what!!!

i got mine for 5.2k in jan.(But it seems my mobo's pci-e slot has gone kaput and i'll have to buy another mobo to use this:().

[nish_higher]

XFX 8600GT is really costly
xfx 8600GT new ones don't have heat issues.the older stock had it.but performance wise Asus 8600gt is better but availability is a big issue.

@GX-the 512mb one might be a DDR2 card.XFX 8600GT 512mb ddr3 costs around 7k

[ancientrites]

nyways, single GPU cards are better to own than any dual GPU. im most cases dual GPU setup faces random speedups or slowdowns irrespective of v-sync or so. This stands true for both SLI and crossfire.

Absolutely right but main concerning point is having a right high end smps for sli.if your pc is switched off for long days like 15-20 days the smps just explodes it often happens during winter season especially in india ppl with no air condition find this situation.

Again i might be wrong.

[gx_saurav]

that's the price in ITWares.com

[nish_higher]

yup its DDR2 ..its no use :)

[upendra_gp]

friends shud i go for 8800GT 256MB or ATI 3870 or amd 3850? i won't be getting new card for another two years so which is more good?

[sagargv]

8800GT 512mb . .if u're getting 3870 for a lower price , go4 it. i dont think any dx10.1 exclusive games will come . heck , we dont have dx10 only games at all.

[gx_saurav]

Ok, I have decided to buy XFX 8600GT with 256 MB DDR3 RAM, I will inquire about the cost when buying.

[MetalheadGautham]

Ok, I have decided to buy XFX 8600GT with 256 MB DDR3 RAM, I will inquire about the cost when buying.
first try and see if Radeon HD 3650 is available. It has gone below the 100$ mark in the US, and I am not sure about india.

and XFX sucks. Buy ASUS 8600GT instead.

[gx_saurav]

I will inquire about Asus 8600GT's cost.

And plz, No AMD Graphics Cards. I am a nVidiot.

[sagargv]

@gx , u arent into serious gaming and OCing right ? the new xfx model that rashi has ( UAL3) of xfx 8600GT doesnt heat all that much. i got that model as a replacement and it goes to a max of 76C . it comes with a square/rectangular box . the udf model which had heating probs comes with a X shaped box..

if u can get asus , well and good. certainly its better. . .but just thot i shud tell u this piece of info.

[nvidia]

^^But i think that model is not widely available in India... Or is it?

[nish_higher]

^ both Asus 8600gt and this new XFX model are available @ rashi

[nvidia]

At what temp does the ASUS card run?

[nish_higher]

the silent one had some issues just like XFX 8600gt.the active cooling one is cheaper and runs cool-there's no heating issues for sure.
A review-
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1090&Itemid=1


Also check this-
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=637&p=0 :confused: :confused:

[upendra_gp]

8800GT 512mb . .if u're getting 3870 for a lower price , go4 it. i dont think any dx10.1 exclusive games will come . heck , we dont have dx10 only games at all.

are u sure that no dx10.1 games are gonna come soon?

[dOm1naTOr]

take 2days situation as example. People already having powerful DX 9 cards like 7950GT wanna upgrade only for DX10 while their older card is still doing the job well for them.
So even if u get hands on powerful DX10 card, and when games starts releasing for 10.1, they think bout upgrading so have those extra eye candies to be rendered the way its meant to be.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Yeah right....Whats the point of buying a high-end card if u can't get much goodies for those eyes?

[sagargv]

are u sure that no dx10.1 games are gonna come soon?

no dx10.1 exclusive games wont come. . games that use dx10.1 may come but will DEFINITELY support dx10 cards. . .heck , all dx10 games today support dx9 pathway. .so dont worry abt dx10.1

and it appears rashi ( atleast in b'lore ) has given up the udf models. they're giving 'ual' models(square shaped box ) which dont heat up so much..rashi gives replacements real fast , got my replacement in 4 days that too coz they dint have 8600 in stock ( otherwise i wud have got it then and there itself ).

[nish_higher]

probably dx10.1 games wont come and there's no news for that to happen either.not even a rumour.i won't advice anyone to get a new card just for the sake of 10.1..performance/value matters more.

[gx_saurav]

I got 5k in my hands today & have to decide which graphics card I should buy. I am looking for a GeForce 8600GT with 256MB RAM, whether it is DD2 or DDR3

Or should I go for a Radeon 3xxx graphics card, if that is available in 5k?

Plz recommend me a brand. There will be no overclocking & the card has to be cool as in temprature. I got these models in mind..

XFX GeForce 8600GT 256MB DDR3 XXX . PV-T84J-UDD3, PV-T84J-UDD7 (http://http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurationDetails.jspa?series=GeForce%26tra de%3B+8600&productConfigurationId=1062901#openLarger)

Asus 8600GT HDMI (http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=6&l3=514&l4=0&model=1626&modelmenu=1)

Xpert Vision 8600GT (http://www.xpertvision.com.tw/en/products/nv_pcie_8600GT.html)

Point of View 8600GT (http://www.pointofview-online.com/default2.asp?content_id=206)

[sagargv]

asus hits the spot.

radeon 3650 i hear was released to replace 2600pro not xt . so its performance is below xt and thus below 8600GT. so get urself a 8600GT.

[gx_saurav]

What is the cost of Asus?

[sagargv]

i think its around 7-8k .. i feel its simply not worth paying even 7k for a 860GT at this point of time. since u r not into OCing u can get xfx 8600GT for 5k. .but it does run a bit HOT. ( mine on load goes upto 78C )..

[nish_higher]

arey nahi yaar..its the silent version\OC version that costs 7k
stock 8600GT by asus costs the same as XFX 8600gt +/- 200-400 bucks..its much coooler and performs better than XFX.

[gx_saurav]

Nish, do u have any links for the Asus model u r talking about? I need to know the exect model number to order...else XFX is available here & seems like it no longer has the heating problem

So, how is Radeon 3750?

[nish_higher]

page 51 of oct 2007 digit-
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7599/imagexr5.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagexr5.jpg)

[sagargv]

@gx , 3750 ? u sure thats the one ? i think u're referring to the 3850 . it rocks and is around 2x performance of 8600. .

[gx_saurav]

^^^^ ok, I was confusing with the model number. It gives 2X performance of 8600GT but also costs 2X More :D

[sagargv]

offtopic : @gx , are u a ppg fan ? what made you choose prof utonium ( i think he's the guy ) as ur avataar ?

[gx_saurav]

Well, I like cartoons. It's not that I am a powerpuff girls fan, just that I find his character a good one so using this avtar since forever.

:D Now changed to dexter

[johnjjx]

^^lol n i thought there was sme graphic related querries or info:P

[gx_saurav]

I just saw the benchmarks of 9600GT, wow...it is almost double of 8600GT in performance.

So, what should I do now? Architecture wise GeForce 9600GT isn't much different from 8600GT, means features are 99.99999999% same. However, performance wise 9600GT is double of 8600GT in games.

If I buy in April end, is there any chance of 8600GT's price reducing further. Or should I wait & buy 9600GT in April? What is the cost of 9600GT right now.

[sagargv]

utonium seemed better to me...

for what purpose are u buying the g-card ? 9600GT wouldnt exaclty be a gr8 choice. . true its pretty good. but its prcing in india aint. a MSI 8800GT 512mb OC @ 12k is a better choice i feel.

If u're into gaming then 9600 or 8800 is a better choice compared to the 8600. can u wait ? what'll be your budget ?if its gonna be around 5k , then u might as well get the 8600 . i see no reason for a price drop of 8600.prices of 9600 and 8800 may drop but not to the range of 5k in a month or two. and needless to say a 8600 will run on any smps but a 9600 or 8800 will need atleast a CM 500/600W. .

[gx_saurav]

I m buying the graphics card for lite gaming once in a while, Photosho, Illustrator & 3Ds Max. Although a 8600GT is good enough for me, but I was thinking of waiting till april if there is a chance of price drop.

I asked for 9600gt just like that :D

[john_the_ultimate]

GX why don't you get the quadro...........I know it's hard to find but since you'll be getting the card by april end, so have a lot of time to search. Else get yourself 8600GT. No point in investing on a 9600GT since you are not into gaming.

[gx_saurav]

Ok but since the 9600GT is out now, is the price of 8600GT expected to reduce

[john_the_ultimate]

Yes the 8600gt will be pushed to low-end category thus a price reduction is on hand.

[gx_saurav]

That's all I wanted to know. I will buy the card next month.

[nvidia]

@gx: why exactly do you want to wait? It may come down after a month but at the same time, the prices of other high end cards will also come down. And their prices will further come down if ATI makes another price drop. Its pointless in waiting for anything these days... Anyway anything you buy will be outdated in less than 6 months....

[nish_higher]

yea ..if u really want to wait-wait for 9600gt price fall

[nvidia]

^^Why buy the 9600GT? he can get the 8800GT instead. Nobody is gonna get anything extra like DX10.1 support if they buy the 9600GT.
Only the brand new name to show off that you have a 9 series card.
Not worth buying it.

[entrana]

you guys are forgetting an important thing. 9600gt is mid end and 8800gt is high end

[Shloeb]

To what extent will the 8800GT price will reduce till april. Beause i also want to buy that card and m waiting for the price drop.

[nish_higher]

9600GT is not that bad card like we ppl make it.Asus\XFX 9600GT is a good mid range performer
DX10.1= no use at all since new games are DX10 only and will remain like that

the max 8800GT can get cheaper on april is by 1k only.

[gx_saurav]

On Paper The Radeon 36xx series looks more tempting then GeForce 8600GT. (http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd3600/specs.html)Although they both have a 128 bit wide memory bus but still, feature wise ATI looks better then nVidia. Now I am confusing my mind :D

ATI Avivo is better then nVidia PureVideo feature wise.

I am going to search for some benchmarks comparing Radeon 3650 with GeForce 8600GT & 9600GT.

The only Radeon 36xx series based card I could find was MSI R3650-MD256 (http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1422&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=137#). Is it available in India & what's the cost.

[nish_higher]

NVIDIA 9600GT-
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2491&cid=3&pg=1

[gx_saurav]

That's it, I have taken a decision. Since I will buy the card by April End, I am not going to buy a GeForce 8600GT. I will either buy a Radeon 3650 (due to much better feature set & better performance in games compared to 8600GT at the same price point) or a GeForce 9600GT with 256 MB RAM.

I have incresed my budget to 10k. I am going to buy a graphics card once only & will keep it till DirectX 11 is released, so it better be something which even if low in performance, is high in feature set. Feature wise Radeon 3650 pwns 8600GT specially in normal world usage like power consumption, Video acceleration etc.

According to newegg, the average price of a Radeon 3650 is $110 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=Radeon+3650), not too bad

[john_the_ultimate]

@gx
How's the performance of ATI card in MAX.........heard that there are some driver issue regarding MAX.
I had real problem with X1950 with viewport being corrupt and the mental ray not working properly with MAYA. But didn't have any such problem with nvidia cards. I have used 5200,5500,6600 and currently using 7950GT without any problem.
Please see if you can find answer regarding ATI and MAX/MAYA. I also want to buy HD3870 but this issue is bothering me.

[gx_saurav]

@gx
How's the performance of ATI card in MAX.........heard that there are some driver issue regarding MAX.
I had real problem with X1950 with viewport being corrupt and the mental ray not working properly with MAYA. But didn't have any such problem with nvidia cards. I have used 5200,5500,6600 and currently using 7950GT without any problem.
Please see if you can find answer regarding ATI and MAX/MAYA. I also want to buy HD3870 but this issue is bothering me.

Ya, ATI card did had trouble with viewport of 3ds Max etc, that even I know but I have used a Radeon 2600HD in 3ds Max & there were no troubles in DirectX 10 mode with it. I am assuming there won't be a trouble with Radeon 3650 too....but still, let's just search on google.

If GeForce 9600GT comes for Rs 10k by April end then I am buying that instead. It's all about VFM

[nish_higher]

^
http://www.chip.in/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32073
Date-26feb
a 512mb 9600GT by ASus is expected to cost 12k.this card has the best cooler and performs better than XFX\EVGA reference cards

[gx_saurav]

Why is it so hard to take a decision to buy a graphics card? :D

Since my budget is Rs 10k, I am comparing GeForce 9600GT & Radeon 3650 feature wise. They should cost almost the same.

I am familier to nVidia, it works flawlessly in 3ds Max (this I know of). It has a 256bit wide memory bus. It has OpenGL 2.1 support. It's the latest graphics card & if I buy a 500W Zebronics SMPS then with my current system this 9600GT will be a balanced config for next 4 years.

On the other hand, Radeon 3650 is a low profile graphics card. It is very cheap at $110. It has more features then GeForce 9 series. How it will work in 3ds Max is unknown to me at this time. It supports DirectX 10.1 but OpenGL 2.0 only. It has a 128 bit wide memory bus. It is the latest Mid-range card from ATI. It will run fine even on my current sytem with a Local 500W PSU. It has support for ATI Avivo which assists in encoding of DivX or H.264 however this isn't something I will need as I don't encode videos much. It has many video enhancement technologies but in real world scenario they will hardly be used. It has support for HDMI but I know I won't be need it at all.

So final decision, if at the end of April Asus GeForce 9600GT is available for Rs 10k then I am buying it, else I am going for MSI/Sapphire Radeon 3650 HD graphics card which will sure cost less then Rs 10k.

[j1n M@tt]

^^may I correct u in something??.........HD3650 costs much less....u will get HD3850 512MB for 10k now.

nd ya its better than 9600GT wich is really 8600GT with triple SLI support+increased clocks nd nothing else....nd with d new Catalyst 8.3v from ATi, d stock HD3850 performs close to dat of HD3870.

[sagargv]

9600GT is 8600GT with increased clock speed ?????

i dont think so. . .

[nish_higher]

^ ^ thats the case with 9800 ,not 9600GT

+ heating issues with 8800GT are mor common with BIG\XFX (esp Alpha dog)
but not with EVGA\MSI\etc.. i guess XFX will never learn http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/actions1.gif

[niax]

hey guyzz!!

i wanna overclock my E6750(c2d 2.66)with DG33FB mobo...
dunno how its done
also wanna adjust the RAM clock/timings any software 4 that??

i got a 3dmark06 score of 5935 with 1gb ram nd 8600 gts is it ok??

[Sunny1211993]

^^
Sorry mate but u cant OC on intel mobos.
ur score is quite good,dont worry
with 4GB RAM,8800GTS 512 and Q6600 i get 120xx score.so ur score is just fine

[niax]

thanx myte...but i guess there was a software to adjust mem timings and mem clock..

[Kiss]

Guys I am thinking of buying Nvidia 8600GT.
However I have Intel 915GL Asrock Motherboard, With 512MB RAM, P4 @2.8 Ghz.
Will I face any kinds of compatibility issues after I insert the card and will 512Mb of RAM be sufficient for the card to work properly??

[dOm1naTOr]

the card is perfectly compatible. And 512 MB is OK, but u cant use the full potential of the card when the memoy is bottleneck.
U can upgrade memory any time, and till then u can use 8600GT with current 512 w/o probs

[Kiss]

the card is perfectly compatible. And 512 MB is OK, but u cant use the full potential of the card when the memoy is bottleneck.
U can upgrade memory any time, and till then u can use 8600GT with current 512 w/o probs

Thanks friend. This means I'll be able to use the card's 60-70% resources.
However how much should i upgrade the memory so that I get the max out of the card.

[gx_saurav]

^^may I correct u in something??.........HD3650 costs much less....u will get HD3850 512MB for 10k now.

OMG....really? but that card also heats up a lot isn't it. It has a 2 slot cooler design & overkill for my setup & system

nd ya its better than 9600GT wich is really 8600GT with triple SLI support+increased clocks nd nothing else....nd with d new Catalyst 8.3v from ATi, d stock HD3850 performs close to dat of HD3870.

The choice is between Radeon 3650 & GeForce 9600GT. I will do one thing, I am going to check whether there are any rendering issues with ATI cards in 3ds Max etc. If there are not then ATI 3650 it is.

Now, I personally know the Gigabyte dealer of U.P. so I can ask for any Gigabyte product & it can also come on order. I have 3 Radeon 3650 graphics cards in mind & if there is no anomaly I am buying it soon provided the cost is acceptable.

Gigabyte GV-RX365512H (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2769)

MSI R3650-MD256 (http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1422&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=137)

Sapphire Radeon 3650 (http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=208&grp=3)

I read some reviews of Radeon 3650 on the net such as Hothardware (http://www.hothardware.com/articles/ATI_Radeon_HD_Refresh_3650_and_3450_Arrive/?page=7). Radeon 3650 pwns GeForce 8600GT so 8600GT is out of question. Now GeForce 9600GT pwns Radeon 3650 & Radeon 3850 but it is more costly & eats more power then both of the ATI cards.

Radeon 3650 seems more & more tempting specially considering the fact that Radeon 3650 has exact same features as Radeon 3870, just performance is bad which will not matter to me that much. Exclusion of OpenGL 2.1 will not make such a big difference to me as it is a gaming grade card after all & even if I buy Radeon 3870 or 9600GT they will work slow in 3ds max anyway.

The Video features of Radeon 3650 & HDMI support is tooooo juicy to miss. Anyone in this forum has a Radeon 3xxx series graphics card? If yes can you plz test 3ds Max for me? I will tell you how to, just spare the download time & 15 mins & it will be enough for me to make a purchasing decision.

New decision, if Radeon 3650 is available for maximum 6k then I am buying it right now, if not then I will wait till April end to see the cost decrease of Radeon 3850 & GeForce 9600GT.

Looks like I have to leave the tag of nVidiot & wear the tag or fanATIc :D

[j1n M@tt]

^^ya Darkload hav already posted the results of 3850 cards in crossfire.....nd y r u so concerned abt 3d Max......it will work fine, nd plz don't blindly believe the scores given by these bechmarking tools

u should see real world test results to judge a card's performance

and am not forcing u to become an ATi fan :)

[gx_saurav]

nd y r u so concerned abt 3d Max......it will work fine

Dude, I got a Job of 3Ds Max, I cannot afford a workstation class card yet like FireGL or Quadro, so I need to make sure that Radeon cards do not produce anomaly & curroption in 3ds max viewport like they used to at one time with Radeon X1900 series.

OpenGL Architecture wise Radeon 3650 isn't much different from Radeon 2600XT which a friend has. I will go to his home tomorrow & run 3Ds Max at his computer extensively to test the GPU's performance.

u should see real world test results to judge a card's performance

I know, but it is for gaming. In real world for ne only these things matter

1) Electricity consumption

2) Noise of the GPU Fan

3) Feature set for Videos like Avivo, UVD etc

4) Low cost & VFM

5) Good performance equal to atleast 8600GT in 3ds Max

Since I don't play games much, & even If I do, I play them at 1024X768 with 4X AA & 4X Anis, anything over 45 fps at these is good enough for me. I don't need a hign end gaming card, I need a VFM good featured card, & so far other then the surity of 3Ds Max, Radeon 3650 wins everywhere for me. :D

[j1n M@tt]

^^ya ya ok then.... :(

HD 3650 is a gud entry level card.........probably I too will try to get a hand on it ;)

[dOm1naTOr]

hi friend,
ATI's HD 3650 is built around 55nm. So it consumes less power nd produce less heat.
And as u know, the HD series is much ahead of GF8 when it comes to home entertainment like HD decoding, H264 playbacks etc.
And as ATI said, the HD 3650 is set for replacing HD 2600XT nd will be cheaper. Also 2650 has same specs as that of 2600XT which was neck to neck with 8600GT. Also also 3650 has open GL 2.1 support and SM 4.1 with its DX 10.1.
so it ll deliver almost same performance as 2600XT at relatively lower price

[j1n M@tt]

^^hey man, at wat price can v get HD3650???

[gx_saurav]

Right now I am reading this article (http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/ATI_Radeon_HD_3870_and_3850_55nm_RV670) about the architecture of Radeon 3650 HD compared to GeForce 9 Architecture. Like I said before, on Paper Radeon is better then GeForce & looks better but real world scenerio is different.

Now if only darklord can help me to run 3ds max in trial mode on his Radeon :D

[dOm1naTOr]

but the article says HD 38xx has SM 4.0 and Open GL 2.0 whereas in real it has 4.1 and 2.1 resp.
but i think this might be due to the unavailabilty of DX 10.1 update from Microsoft for Vista, but ll be soon released.

[gx_saurav]

It is written on ATI website that Radeon 3650 supports OpenGL 2.0 & DirectX 10.1. I only need OpenGL 2.0 & DirectX 10 so Radeon 3650 is good for me, I just hope i get a good deal.

Another thing I like in ATI which isn't in nVidia is that ATI Radeon 3650 HD can down clock itself, reducing the clock speed of core & shader clock to lower electricity requirement & heats less, when not in use. Cool....

Radeons are looking more tempting now

[navrajyadav]

hi everyone,
i am new here. and i want to buy a graphics card 256mb in around 4k to 5.5k.

please suggest me a good graphics card. i have intel 915glvg motherboard, intel pentium 4 (2.:cool:, 512mb ram.

is any chance of reducing price on graphics card on next month due to new budget.

[gx_saurav]

^^^ Look for Radeon 3650 HD with 256 MB RAM.

[ashish_gh]

Hi,
I'm new to this forum & would like some help regarding graphics cards.
My PC specs are as follows:
1.ASUS P5LD2-VM SE Motherboard
2. Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 1.86 GHz
3. 1GB DDR2 RAM
4. 400W SMPS

I'm planning to buy a graphics card & have shortlisted the following ones
1. XFX 8500 GT
2. XFX 8600 GT
I would like to know if these cards are compatible with my Motherboard & DDR2 RAM. I would also like to know if these cards require an SMPS upgrade.
Also, if anyone knows a better graphics card, I'm open to suggestions :)

Thanks,
Ashish

[samurai3]

can u tell me the cost of asus EN8600 GT and its quality... is there graphics card in this catagory. my budget's 8K.......... how about ASUS EA1900 XTX will it perform better....


my specifksn
intel core 2 duo 3ghz
2gb ram
200 gb hdd
intel p35 based mother board.....

[sagargv]

1900XTX will perform better but its dx9 , so dont go for it now. .. asus en8600GT is pretty good. .but for a bit more money u can get 9600GT or radeon hd 3850..mind you , with a 9600/3850 u'll need a good smps.

Hi,
I'm new to this forum & would like some help regarding graphics cards.
My PC specs are as follows:
1.ASUS P5LD2-VM SE Motherboard
2. Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 1.86 GHz
3. 1GB DDR2 RAM
4. 400W SMPS

I'm planning to buy a graphics card & have shortlisted the following ones
1. XFX 8500 GT
2. XFX 8600 GT
I would like to know if these cards are compatible with my Motherboard & DDR2 RAM. I would also like to know if these cards require an SMPS upgrade.
Also, if anyone knows a better graphics card, I'm open to suggestions :)

Thanks,
Ashish
dont even think of 8500..8600 should be fine...most probobly u wont need a smps upgrade..whats the amps on the 12 volt rail of ur psu ?
since u have low power consuming c2d , any cheap smps is enough to run the 8600..

[MetalheadGautham]

hi everyone,
i am new here. and i want to buy a graphics card 256mb in around 4k to 5.5k.

please suggest me a good graphics card. i have intel 915glvg motherboard, intel pentium 4 (2.:cool:, 512mb ram.

is any chance of reducing price on graphics card on next month due to new budget.
me too has 915dglvg, and it lacks a pci express 16x slot:(
^^^ Look for Radeon 3650 HD with 256 MB RAM.
finally you too realised that hd 3650 rox...
whats its current price, btw ?

[gx_saurav]

finally you too realised that hd 3650 rox...whats its current price, btw ?

Compared to 8600GT & 9600GT, yeah 3650 is better in features. If I wanted performance I would have opted for Geforce 9600GT instead but I wanted a VFM & more on features card so ATI Radeon 3650 is my choice.

My work now includes more of Microsoft Blend, Photoshop & Illustrator, then 3ds Max, so 10% less OpenGL performance is acceptable.

Besides, I need a silent PC which is low on power & heat. Radeon 3650 can decrese it's clock speed on the fly now even in desktop graphics card, which geforce can't. While working in Vista in 2D even a clock speed of 400 MHz is enough.

I have no idea about ATI drivers though since the last 3 years

[Basanta]

I just move into bangalore. I searched a lot and i did not find good dealer for 8800gt. Can anyone tell me cheapest price and dealer address here

[purvabh]

i've been looking around this thread but i'm still facing the same dilemma i was in (i'd built a rig around a P35......dint want a 8600.....waited.....waited.......and i'm still waiting:mad:).....i just want a decent card at 8k (rather 8k at max)......i dont want a 8600 (call it a personal bias but i dont it find to be worth it...even at 6k)......i've waited for about 3 months now (yeah a 6750 and 3 gigs of 800 Mhz just wastin off)..... ATi prices are still bloated in india.......and i like the 9600 but its still outta my range.....i can wait till april....only if i have to i.e if it makes any difference at all......so please help me out folks!

Cheers

i've been looking around this thread but i'm still facing the same dilemma i was in (i'd built a rig around a P35......dint want a 8600.....waited.....waited.......and i'm still waiting:mad:).....i just want a decent card at 8k (rather 8k at max)......i dont want a 8600 (call it a personal bias but i dont it find to be worth it...even at 6k)......i've waited for about 3 months now (yeah a 6750 and 3 gigs of 800 Mhz just wastin off)..... ATi prices are still bloated in india.......and i like the 9600 but its still outta my range.....i can wait till april....only if i have to i.e if it makes any difference at all......so please help me out folks!

Cheers

[gx_saurav]

Get a Radeon 3650, it gives double the performance of GeForce 8600GT.

[dOm1naTOr]

try HD 3850 256. They shud be around 8k now with teh new price after the recent reduction of 40$, and now its for 130~140$.
So if the price reduction reflects in local market, u can expect it even below 8k, coz even now the 512MB 3850 is at 10k.

[gx_saurav]

I ordered Radeon 3650 with 256 MB DDR 3 RAM for Rs 5,500 today

[Sunny1211993]

I ordered Radeon 3650 with 256 MB DDR 3 RAM for Rs 5,500 today
Congrats!!!:D
I think it(OCed) equals 8800 GT in terms of performace.

[dOm1naTOr]

!!!!!!!!!!
are u sure??????

[gx_saurav]

I will not overclock.

[Sunny1211993]

^^

then its more then 8600 GT but less than 8800 GT by quite a margin

[keith_j_snyder2]

What are u talking about?
3650 compared to 8800GT?
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7677/hd3650wj6.jpg

Dude it can be compared with 8600GT!
Not even 8600GTS!

[gx_saurav]

Radeon 3650 gives more performance then 8600GT but 10% less performance then 8600GTS. If temprature allows me then I will sure over clock Radeon 3650 upto the level to beat 8600GTS

[nish_higher]

^ for just 700-800 rupees u can add a gemini gfx cooler-the fan one that takes a pci slot without any gfx card homework.it will keep temperatures in control.that would help achieve good oc'ing

[gx_saurav]

hmm...I will think about over clocking later. Since I have a PCIe X1 slot next to graphics card, which is useless I can very well spare it for a dual slot cooler....

Umm...are PCIe X1 based TV Tuners available.

[Pathik]

Congrats!!!:D
I think it(OCed) equals 8800 GT in terms of performace.
A highly OCed hd3650 may barely touch an underclocked 8800gt :p

[deathvirus_me]

^^ nope .. won't even come close .. unless u uber downclock the 8800GT ...

[sagargv]

the 3650 is just below 8600 when both are at stock. .. i think when both are OCed 8600 will offer better gaming performance as 8600 is a good OCer.


3650 wont come close to stock 8800 even if water cooled and extremely OCed

[MetalheadGautham]

Compared to 8600GT & 9600GT, yeah 3650 is better in features. If I wanted performance I would have opted for Geforce 9600GT instead but I wanted a VFM & more on features card so ATI Radeon 3650 is my choice.

My work now includes more of Microsoft Blend, Photoshop & Illustrator, then 3ds Max, so 10% less OpenGL performance is acceptable.

Besides, I need a silent PC which is low on power & heat. Radeon 3650 can decrese it's clock speed on the fly now even in desktop graphics card, which geforce can't. While working in Vista in 2D even a clock speed of 400 MHz is enough.

I have no idea about ATI drivers though since the last 3 years
never kompare radeon 3650 with 9600GT. they are in different legues.
and gud luk wit your new card. please do tell how crysis runs on it.

the 3650 is just below 8600 when both are at stock. .. i think when both are OCed 8600 will offer better gaming performance as 8600 is a good OCer.


3650 wont come close to stock 8800 even if water cooled and extremely OCed
3650 was MADE TO compete with 8600GT, and easily excels it.
sunny was confused with 3650 and 3850.

[gx_saurav]

the 3650 is just below 8600 when both are at stock

From what I have seen in the reviews online, Radeon HD 3650 defeates 8600GT by a big maring, but it is defeted by GeForce 8600GTS at stock speeds.

However, like I have mentioned above that the performance similar to 8600GT is all I need, means performance wise Radeon HD 3650 is good enough for me, but feature wise it is better then GeForce 8600GT

[Sunny1211993]

From what I have seen in the reviews online, Radeon HD 3650 defeates 8600GT by a big maring, but it is defeted by GeForce 8600GTS at stock speeds.

However, like I have mentioned above that the performance similar to 8600GT is all I need, means performance wise Radeon HD 3650 is good enough for me, but feature wise it is better then GeForce 8600GT

Does 3650 support Dx10.1???Sorry if i sound noobish:D

@Gautham-yea got a bit confused btwn the 2:D :D

[gx_saurav]

Does 3650 support Dx10.1???Sorry if i sound noobish

Yes

[Sunny1211993]

Yes

Then its really worth buying at a cost of 5-6K.Bang for the Buck!!

[keith_j_snyder2]

If it is the DDR3 version then yes its worth!

[john_the_ultimate]

Congrats GX for the purchase.......finally tell me if there is any compatiblity related issue with MAX or not (in opengl mode)? And if mental ray is working or not?

[gx_saurav]

Congrats GX for the purchase.......finally tell me if there is any compatiblity related issue with MAX or not (in opengl mode)? And if mental ray is working or not?

I checked in Radeon 2600 pro, in DirectX 9 Mode, it was working fine.

In DirectX 10 Mode, viewport was slow & there was texture curroption.

I did not check in OpenGL mode.

All the mental ray shaders were working fine. Or maybe cos the shaders I made myself were made in DirectX mode.

[ashish_gh]

Thanks dude!!

[Sunny1211993]

Hey Gx,y dont u get a 3870 XT??I has GDDR4 memory and just 2-3 K difference.It would serve u better IMO:D

[MetalheadGautham]

Hey Gx,y dont u get a 3870 XT??I has GDDR4 memory and just 2-3 K difference.It would serve u better IMO:D
abe there liye dho 8800GTS kafi hai na, tho chup re:p

[Sunny1211993]

abe there liye dho 8800GTS kafi hai na, tho chup re:p
Main to advice de raha tha.Aage uski marzi:D:D
@gx-If u can afford then go for 3870 XT only.GeCube 3870 GDDR4 costs 11-12 k and GDDR costs 9 K or so.Prices differ according to regions

[gx_saurav]

^^^ I don't have that much money

[MetalheadGautham]

^^^ I don't have that much money
you are replying to the guy with 2 8800GTS G92s. How can he understand ?:rolleyes:

[ajayashish]

i want to but a graphic card for games and 3d work purpose,.... i am eyeing something from Geforce only...

now i want a suggestion...

should i go for 8800GT or GTX or GTS...

what size of memory... 512MB 768MB or 1gb

And which company... Asus MSI... XFX...

or should i get something for SLI... means 2 card... but i want to get the best value for my money... what do u suggest guys

[quadroplex780]

^^A Core 2 Duo will have to be clocked at 3Ghz to give the best experience with an geforce 8800 card another thing is that the AMD 64 3000+ is a single core processor so it will be a huuuuge bottelneck.Don't go for SLI if u don't have a 3Ghz core 2 duo for scalability to some extent.

[ajayashish]

i will be buying a quad core q6600 with 4gb corsair ram at 800MHz... the only thing i am not sure of is the motherboard and the graphic card... i thought of getting P5N32E-Sli which is presently out of stock...

[dOm1naTOr]

if u want to go for SLI, then get 9600GT SLI rather than 880GT SLI. 9600GT scales better in SLI mode and at lower cost.
it ll cost u 10k+10k= 20k
and u need at least an 800W or better high performance PSU to run it.


if u stick to HD 3870 X2, it need less power than SLI solution and same performance and runs much cooler. In future u can even add another HD 3870 X2 to have a quad crossfire termed as Crossfire-X to further double the performance. And as it runs much cooler and 55nm , it has much higher overclocking potential.

[Sunny1211993]

you are replying to the guy with 2 8800GTS G92s. How can he understand ?:rolleyes:
2.5 years back i owned a PC with AMD Athlon XP 2800+,128 MB DDR RAM,40GB SATA HDD,Nvidia geforce 2,only cd writer not even DVD!!,a 15" CRT,some crappy mobo(dont remember the exact model),later upgraded to 384 MB RAM and u are saying that i cant understand?i can understand better than anyone around.On that rig i used to die to play GTA SA,TCNY and many new games at that time.
Everyone doesnt own a quad-core by birth:)

[mannrak2003]

Can anyone suggest an AGP card for 667 MHZ P3 processor, asus cuv4x motherboard, 768MB sdram,250 w power supply? what is the maximum rating of power supply i can connect to this config?

what is maxm rating of AGP card that can be connected at this config pls give prices also .

No plans on upgrading right now thats why im asking.ALso need market price of 512 MB SDRAM?

[ajayashish]

if u want to go for SLI, then get 9600GT SLI rather than 880GT SLI. 9600GT scales better in SLI mode and at lower cost.
it ll cost u 10k+10k= 20k
and u need at least an 800W or better high performance PSU to run it.


if u stick to HD 3870 X2, it need less power than SLI solution and same performance and runs much cooler. In future u can even add another HD 3870 X2 to have a quad crossfire termed as Crossfire-X to further double the performance. And as it runs much cooler and 55nm , it has much higher overclocking potential.

I want to stay with Nvidia and so will take only Geforce... if i decide not to go for SLI then which card to take...

which brand do u suggest and what memory size...

[mayanksharma]

^^Well, then you can opt for 8800GTS with 512MB DDR3! Just wait for the moment, when prices fall then go for it. As far as brands are concerned, XFX cards are excellent performers. Though, they suffer with heating issues. MSI and PaliT should be the second choice. For you, i say, go with PaliT cards. Their onboard cooling is amazing as mostly they use Zalman or other aftermarket coolers! And yes, just make sure you have atleast 450W PSU from CM/Antec! 500 watts "Real Power" PSU from CM should be an adequate choice.

[ajayashish]

What is the price of the card now.... XFX or Palit 8800GTS 512MB

[Sunny1211993]

What is the price of the card now.... XFX or Palit 8800GTS 512MB
I got MSI one for 20.5 K just at the time of its release in India.In fact i got 2:D
prices may have dripped to 17-18K or so

[dOm1naTOr]

Only some lower models of XFX had some issues and they soon retified it by a better version, ya im talkin bout 8600GT.
But their 8800GT and GTS are very gud, though bit expensive than brands ike MSI.
MSI has gud vfm as most of their cards are factory oced and is really cheap.
MSI 8800GT is for some 12.5k and GTS is for some 16k

And if u wanna oc other components like proccy ram and add another HDD then opt for atleast a 650W PSU, as 8800GT and 8800GTS are real power mongers.

And in SLI, i wud always suggest only 9600GT SLI. Performs better than 8800GT SLI in most cases though in single mode 8800GT is powerful than 9600GT.

get MSI 9600GT 512MB DDR3 for 10k each in SLI. Or u can also wait a bit longer for the 9800GTX or GX2.
Go for GTX as u shud always prefer single GPU setup than dual GPU ones unlees there is no other choice for such power.

[quadroplex780]

i will be buying a quad core q6600 with 4gb corsair ram at 800MHz... the only thing i am not sure of is the motherboard and the graphic card... i thought of getting P5N32E-Sli which is presently out of stock...
The nforce 790i chipset(with true PCI eXpress 2.0 support without a bridge like on 780i) is due out on the 15th March.There will be plenty of stock for it in then and be quick to ask Rashi Peripherals for help as soon as the chipset is released buy an ASUS one(know this that early bios revisions may have bugs but mobos rarely have a hardware fault at launch).
As for the graphics card both the 8800GT and 8800GTS(G92) are excellent buy for the price.

[ajayashish]

The nforce 790i chipset(with true PCI eXpress 2.0 support without a bridge like on 780i) is due out on the 15th March.There will be plenty of stock for it in then and be quick to ask Rashi Peripherals for help as soon as the chipset is released buy an ASUS one(know this that early bios revisions may have bugs but mobos rarely have a hardware fault at launch).
As for the graphics card both the 8800GT and 8800GTS(G92) are excellent buy for the price.

Thanks for the suggestion... Do u know if P5N32E-SLI available in Kolkata or not... and if i got with 512mb 8800GTS which brand should i choose and what will be the price...

[hellgate]

Thanks for the suggestion... Do u know if P5N32E-SLI available in Kolkata or not... and if i got with 512mb 8800GTS which brand should i choose and what will be the price...

Asus P5N32-E SLi is out of stock with all vendors that i called up 2day.only P5N-E SLi is available.:(
getting a aBit IP35-E instead of P5N32-E SLi.

[ancientrites]

ajayashish
check my pm

[ajayashish]

but that is not a SLI board

[quadroplex780]

Thanks for the suggestion... Do u know if P5N32E-SLI available in Kolkata or not... and if i got with 512mb 8800GTS which brand should i choose and what will be the price...
What you should do is ask Rashi peripherals(Kolkata branch office)if they have P5N32-E SLI in stock.I instead of going to the vendors ask the distributers,as you know the vendors look for bulk purchases(multiple no. of pieces have discounts from the distributer)of the products that sell more often so if no one is willing to buy the mobo naturally to escape losses the vendors will stop purchasing that particular mobo(P5N32-E sli in your case) from the distributer and tel you lies to make you buy some cheap mobo(in some cases they will tell you that low end mobos are better than the high end ones in terms of performance and features)don't believe them and do your best to getthe one you want.
When u call the office tell that you are a reseller(or vendo)of computer parts and ask if they have any stock left of the P5N32-E SLI(don't buy defective old stock of the same mobo).If they say yes then tell them you need info on where to buy that mobo like a customer or ask them which vendor is willing to sell it.Well I went to great extent for this mobo I continuosly called the rashi branch in my city to ask the least price for which a customer could purchase the mobo and they always told me "Aree price to vendor hi batayega" but its not the vendor who decieds the price its the distributers,they even stopped discussing anything regarding a product on the cell from me so I went to the office and told them about the mobo I wanted to buy(and many other products)and the incharge there agreed to import the mobo from mumbai and even told me that he imported the Gfx card from abroad for me though i think it was mumbai.
However you can as well opt for the new 790i chipset and not go through all the hassle as the board patners of rashi will be more interested in encouraging new products.
Here's the intel on the kolkata branch.
KOLKATA
Rashi Peripherals Pvt Ltd.
19, R.N. Mukherjee Road,
Eastern Building, Ground Floor,
Kolkata - 700 001
Tel No.: +91 - 033 - 40011603/1604
Fax No.: +91 - 033 -22153366
Email : gopalp@rptechindia.com
Official Rashi New site (http://www.rptechindia.com/New/Main%20Page.asp)
Now for the graphics cards you might consider Staying Away from XFX 8800gt as only recent ones have fan control on them(3 or more fan wires)and they are costly the old ones with no fan control are less costly,the fan runs at 100% all the time on old XFX 8800Gt and can be irritating to some.Luckily my brother got one with fan control.
As for Asus there are older models for 8800gt with heating issues and all asus 8800gt products come with a custom temp sensor so only Newest beta of Asus Smart doctor software can monitor its temp.Newer versions have no heating issues due to the custom Dual slot cooler provided with them.
The 8800GTS(G92 512MB) is no worry as there are many less cases of problem with this chipset(more dime was spent on this baby's manufacturing).
If there is a lot of problems froms Rashi's side you can order the products from Here (www.theitwares.com) just rember to ask for the copy of the bill when u order the product(as Rahul probably does some gaphla sometimes to save tax on challan)if you do not get the bill on shipment then ask him to send it via email(he promptly did it for me for a 600w cooler master PSU).

[ajayashish]

Hey thanks for the support... is there any model number for the 790i boards u are talking about.. and what is the added advantage of this board...

I am from Kolkata and so i believe that address provided by you will be helpful to me as well...

Also let me know whether to go with GT or GTS and what memory size... i can spend around 20k on the graphic card...
And also if i should go for SLI or just purchase one card for now... if it is SLI then i might increase the budget a bit

[quadroplex780]

Please read carefully
ASRock Penryn 1600SLI-110dB is a mobo based on the older nVidia nforce 650i SLI chipset which supports both quad core and dual core penryn 45nm processors(its a surprise for most as most of 6 series chipset don't support penryn)
Expect to run an C2d e8400 or a C2E QX9650 with good overclocking capability.
It also supports SLI and the rest of the features of 650i SLI.Expect it around at Rs7000-8000 but also expect a fall in price with the soon to be realeased 750i Asrock.
The ASRock Penryn 1600SLI-110dB
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/asrock/1600penryn/asrock1600.jpg
750i SLI
If u want better overclocking support you can go for for the soon to be realeased 750i SLI chipset which has pci ex-2.0 support but with a bridge as on the 780i sli but overclocking has been heavily tweaked from the former nforce 6 series as has been on the 780i SLI+u get support for Quad core 45nm along with the usual Dual core 45nm.
Don't go ahead and buy the P5N-D(ASUS 750i SLI,don't confuse with P5N-T which is 780i SLI)which has already been released as a guy was havin trouble with sli on it(he was among the few who bought P5N-D).
The boards on this chipset should be around Rs9000
Exterme High end-790i SLI
Here's a pic of the Gigabyte nForce 790i SLI-DQ6 mobo

http://www.dvhardware.net/news/gigabyte_sli_dq6_dh.jpg

Specifications for 790i:
nForce 790i SLI chipset
45nm Penryn Support (Dual and Quad Core)
FSB1600/1333/1066/800MHz
4x DDR3 DIMM Slots
1600MHz DDR3
4x PCIe X16, 1x PCIe X1 and 2x PCI slot
Triple SLI support
So u can expect running 2 nVdia Gfx(s) for ageia physX and another two for SLI gfx.U can expect huge performance leaps when the cards are interconnected via a bridge as there will be less cpu bottelneck due to the bridge and the gfx(s) processing the physics.There is a hint that it might become standard as nVidia said it will work with amd too for this.The 790i only supports DDR3 so it will cost u a ton.
Anyways I will tell u more about it if u are interested in the 790i the lowest price u can expect it at is around Rs14,000 but even as high as Rs21,000
Video and graphics processing
As for the graphics card definitely go for the XFX 8800GTS(g92 512MB)for your budget if u can get it for Rs19000 but its doubtful.XFX is one of the best quality manfacturer of high end products but if you can't get that go for other brands such as POV,MSI or ASUS with Asus GPU(s)being the most hard to find in India since not many buy ASUS GFX.
For Asus-Rashi Peripherals
For POV,MSI- Tirupati Enterprices (Please read carefully
ASRock Penryn 1600SLI-110dB is a mobo based on the older nVidia nforce 650i SLI chipset which supports both quad core and dual core penryn 45nm processors(its a surprise for most as most of 6 series chipset don't support penryn)
Expect to run an C2d e8400 or a C2E QX9650 with good overclocking capability.
It also supports SLI and the rest of the features of 650i SLI.Expect it around at Rs7000-8000 but also expect a fall in price with the soon to be realeased 750i Asrock.
The ASRock Penryn 1600SLI-110dB
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/asrock/1600penryn/asrock1600.jpg
750i SLI
If u want better overclocking support you can go for for the soon to be realeased 750i SLI chipset which has pci ex-2.0 support but with a bridge as on the 780i sli but overclocking has been heavily tweaked from the fromer nforce 6 series as has been on the 780i SLI+u get support for Quad core 45nm along with the usual Dual core 45nm.
Don't go ahead and buy the P5N-D(ASUS 750i SLI,don't confuse with P5N-T which is 780i SLI)which has already been released as a guy was havin trouble with sli on it(he was among the few who bought P5N-D).
The boards on this chipset should be around Rs9000
Exterme High end-790i SLI
Here's a pic of the Gigabyte nForce 790i SLI-DQ6 mobo

http://www.dvhardware.net/news/gigabyte_sli_dq6_dh.jpg

Specifications for 790i:
nForce 790i SLI chipset
45nm Penryn Support (Dual and Quad Core)
FSB1600/1333/1066/800MHz
4x DDR3 DIMM Slots
1600MHz DDR3
4x PCIe X16, 1x PCIe X1 and 2x PCI slot
Triple SLI support
So u can expect running 2 nVdia Gfx(s) for ageia physX and another two for SLI gfx.U can expect huge performance leaps when the cards are interconnected via a bridge as there will be less cpu bottelneck due to the bridge and the gfx(s) processing the physics.There is a hint that it might become standard as nVidia said it will work with amd too for this.The 790i only supports DDR3 so it will cost u a ton.
Anyways I will tell u more about it if u are interested in the 790i the lowest price u can expect it at is around Rs14,000 but even as high as Rs21,000
Video and graphics processing
As for the graphics card definitely go for the XFX 8800GTS(g92 512MB)for your budget if u can get it for Rs19000 but its doubtful.XFX is one of the best quality manfacturer of high end products but if you can't get that go for other brands such as POV,MSI or ASUS with Asus GPU(s)being the most hard to find in India since not many buy ASUS GFX.

For Asus- Rashi Peripherals
For POV,MSI-[URL="http://www.tirupati.net/about1.html)
I don't know about the Asrock distributer but the boards from it are widely available.
Will be updating if there's any new news

[ajayashish]

ok so this only supports DDR3... not that will be a problem on my pockets

[sagargv]

how much is the 8800GTS g92 ? if its at 19k , isnt it better to go4 3870x2 ?

[Harvik780]

ok so this only supports DDR3... not that will be a problem on my pockets

I suggest the best bet for you would be Asus 780i or 750i SLI.They are DDR2.I think if you ask the distributor they will readily make any one of them available.

[monkey]

For 780i I think EVGA 780i is the best.

[quadroplex780]

how much is the 8800GTS g92 ? if its at 19k , isnt it better to go4 3870x2 ?
Sagargv,please do take my words lightly,XFX 8800GTS(G92) is a very high quality product(XFX always does that for the newest high end)hence its costly(cost may vary with different part no. as its for the bundle and accesories).I have personal contact with Rashi's main man at my place and he tells me every factor on which price is decieded the main being demand at that particular place and the profit earned by Rashi.
Suppose that you order a Gfx card from another city the means of travel between which is only plane then it will cost u more and even more if its imported from abroad.
Have you played with a crossfire system or SLI cause if you observe correctly then at higher resolutions where the FPS dips to 30 or below the pecieved performance by the eye will be much less than a single card this phenomenon is known as Micro-Stuttering and can be verified with the help of fraps it takes place in the SLI case of AFR which is the most used in games but nVidia have promptly fixed it in many games but it can be seen on 3DMark06 where FPS easily drops 30 in some benchmarks.In the case of crossfire the condition is much worse.
If u need explanation regarding this it can be easily done.