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sagargv
31-12-2007, 06:26 PM
^^ go4 8600GT ( 5.5k ) .
@ankushkool
u can get a 8800GT for 14k . . its the best bet ..it can handle dx10 pretty well
if u cant extend ur budget , go4 7900GS . but its dx9 only .. .
i'd recommend the first option.
Rollercoaster
31-12-2007, 07:46 PM
hey guys can someone from delhi(nehru palce) tell me the price of xfx 8800gt 512mb.
my guy here in dehradun is charging 15200rs.
just wanna confirm the price. all hardware here comes from delhi with slightly higher prices.
graphic card experts,plz take a look at this thread,
i didn't yet got a solution for this
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76964
thx
sonu1983
05-01-2008, 02:30 AM
guys i got a gigabyte 8800GT 512 mb for 14100...works like a charm..can u guys name some benchmarks like 3Dmark n all..just wanted to play around with my new card...:D
Harvik780
05-01-2008, 03:32 AM
First of set your Fan Duty Cycle to 80-85% with riva tuner or else u'll heat up the card more often.
3D BenchMarks
3D Mark 2006,2005,2003,2001 www.guru3d.com
Also do try the nvidia 3D Demos by downloading them via www.nzone.com
MetalheadGautham
05-01-2008, 12:29 PM
which GFX card has maimum VFM today? In the performance to cost ratio?
zyberboy
05-01-2008, 01:45 PM
^8600gt at 5.5k
sonu1983
05-01-2008, 02:26 PM
hey thanks@ harvik...but at 80% the fans noise is killin me..also can u tell me...can we get a market cooler for 8800GT...is it available..and how much will it be..thanks in advance
zyberboy
05-01-2008, 02:30 PM
^chk this http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=26&category_id=22&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28
Harvik780
05-01-2008, 05:19 PM
hey thanks@ harvik...but at 80% the fans noise is killin me..also can u tell me...can we get a market cooler for 8800GT...is it available..and how much will it be..thanks in advance
ThermalTake DuR0b is a good choice then their's artic cooling accelero S1.The thermalright HR-03 plus rev A is also a good choice.
Make sure u see the reviews before u buy them even though these coolers stand head to head.
knight1981
07-01-2008, 06:15 PM
Hi there...
My Graphics Card recently blew up...I have an ASUS P4S533 VM Motherboard and i wanted to know that which 128-256 MB NVidia 4X AGP Graphics Card is available in the Mumbai market compatible with my MOBO which i can get my hands on...pLEASE GUYS REAL EMERGENCY...
Thanks...
dOm1naTOr
07-01-2008, 07:07 PM
@knight1981 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=7960)
Any 8x AGP card will work with ur system. So get a 6200 128 or 256 for some 2~2.4k. It shud do the job.
Bushido
07-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Hey guys im planning to buy xfx 8800 gt xxx edition 512 mb.
can ne 1 suggest a good psu for this ?
will coolermaster 500 w be enough fr this?
MY setup
c2d e6300 @1.8hz
946 gz mobo,
2 gb ddr2
160 gb seagate SATA HDD
sony dvd writer
Considering the setup I feel that 500w should be more than enough.But I need your opinion .Also what is the pricing of psu's in kolkata?
Help will be appreciated
hellgate
07-01-2008, 09:43 PM
^^^ yes CM 500w will be sufficient for ur system.
xbonez
07-01-2008, 09:49 PM
@bushido : i'm nt sure about this, but wouldn't ur procy bottleneck the gfx card? http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/7.gif
hellgate
07-01-2008, 10:09 PM
@bushido : i'm nt sure about this, but wouldn't ur procy bottleneck the gfx card? http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/7.gif
yup the procy will surely be a bottleneck.if he cud oc it then it wudnt be much of a bottleneck.
keith_j_snyder2
08-01-2008, 02:10 PM
Hey guys im planning to buy xfx 8800 gt xxx edition 512 mb.
can ne 1 suggest a good psu for this ?
will coolermaster 500 w be enough fr this?
MY setup
c2d e6300 @1.8hz
946 gz mobo,
2 gb ddr2
160 gb seagate SATA HDD
sony dvd writer
Considering the setup I feel that 500w should be more than enough.But I need your opinion .Also what is the pricing of psu's in kolkata?
Help will be appreciated
Go for POWERSAFE 500 W Gold!
knight1981
08-01-2008, 05:48 PM
@knight1981 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=7960)
Any 8x AGP card will work with ur system. So get a 6200 128 or 256 for some 2~2.4k. It shud do the job.
Thanks a lot bro...but just to be sure my system is 4xAGP ..Since u mentioned tht any 8x AGP Crd will work with my system, is an 8x AGP card be backward compatible with my MOBO ??
keith_j_snyder2
09-01-2008, 10:06 AM
^^ Heard that HD3850 also comes in AGP!
dOm1naTOr
09-01-2008, 10:42 AM
@knight1981 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=7960)
Any 8x AGP cards is backward compatible with 4x slot nd have same voltage. But none of the 4x or 8x card can be pluged into a AGP2x slot as it will fry it coz AGP2x runs at almost double the voltage.
AGP8x cards wud scale down the interface speed to 4x of 4x supported mobos. No worries.
@keith_j_snyder2 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=21252)
Whats is with ATI these days? Are they nuts? I do like 3850 nd 3870 much[due to vfm], but whos gona buy AGP versions of it? Proccys nd ram will be highly bottlenecked in older AGP based systems.
To enjoy at least 60% performance outaa 3850, ull need at least a dual core.
keith_j_snyder2
09-01-2008, 11:01 AM
Yeah i know that but ATi also have to survive and stay in the market coz they know that their card can't beat nVidia!
Therefore they are fining some blank shots...atleast for AGP because no 8 series card comes in AGP!
knight1981
09-01-2008, 05:48 PM
@knight1981 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=7960)
Any 8x AGP cards is backward compatible with 4x slot nd have same voltage. But none of the 4x or 8x card can be pluged into a AGP2x slot as it will fry it coz AGP2x runs at almost double the voltage.
AGP8x cards wud scale down the interface speed to 4x of 4x supported mobos. No worries.
@keith_j_snyder2 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=21252)
Whats is with ATI these days? Are they nuts? I do like 3850 nd 3870 much[due to vfm], but whos gona buy AGP versions of it? Proccys nd ram will be highly bottlenecked in older AGP based systems.
To enjoy at least 60% performance outaa 3850, ull need at least a dual core.
Thanks Bro...couldnt get 6200 settled fer Sapphire AGP Ati Radeon 256MB DDR1 R9250 fer Rs 1600...hope it works...
ashish_patel
09-01-2008, 07:17 PM
which graphic will suit me for gaming at abudget of 3 to 6 thousand
my computer
motherboard= Intel 845
Pentium 4 2.8 ghz
ram=1 gb
please tell
Harvik780
09-01-2008, 07:41 PM
Ok guys...need some suggestion..i was about to buy an 8800GTS but i dropped the plan and m going to buy an 8800GT 512MB since the performance difference isn't much and the G92 8800GTS from XFX costs a lot here at my place...and i thought money wasn't a problem.
sam9s a member of this forum posted that he bought the 8800GT alpha dog edition for Rs 14,600.Theitwares quotes the price of the same as Rs 16,075.Rashi at my place quotes the price as 16,400.I don't understand as to why the prices are so high.Is it due to CST(Customs Sales Tax).The courier charges are just rs 150.I didn't know that CST is applied within the country itself.
entrana
10-01-2008, 08:07 AM
actually it also depends on the places u buy it. like places with seaports get it cheaper than the inner states. but then major cities have it more expensive. i dont totally understand it, but the itwares prices correspond to mumbai pricess
keith_j_snyder2
10-01-2008, 09:59 AM
Entrana is right. See this can be seen into various things. Take an example of PETROL. Bombay high is in Southern region of INDIA but oil prices are high over there and no drilling well in North India but there are refineries here so petrol is cheap and costlier in southern part!
Well thats just one example but there are millions of are there but thats about it!
There is another thing that the retailers also give prices according to the costomer. I mean i asked SMC guys about CORSAIR 2x1 GB 800 MHz Dual channel Kit and they have quoted 14,000/- for that but it was available at Tirupati for 4500/- at that time!
I mean they just think that the other guy is a moron and don't know anything, somebody gotta stop this mess!!!
Rollercoaster
10-01-2008, 02:41 PM
i bought the xfx 8800gt 512mb and it comes in alpha dog edition only now. anyways alpha dog editions have no diff then a slightly bigger fan. which is supposed to help in OCing. you can imagin my heart beat when i got my package as saw alphadog written on it as i had only ordered the vanilla version.
i live in dehradun and got it for 15200 after a wait of 3weeks!!!
i placed the order around 7th december for 16000 rs, price then, and got the card on 31st dec for the new price 15200 rs
needless to say my new year night was not in a pub but drooling over the super high framerate on my games :D :D :D
anyways all stuff here comes from nehru place, delhi so i am guessing the right price there should be 14200 - 15000 bucks.
my pros and cons for xfx 8800gt
+sweet looking and gr8 design being single slot n all. the damn card is so long that it reaches into the hard disk bays in my cramped cabinate :D
+very low noise levels because of the new alpha dog heatsink/fan design. less then my earlier xfx 6600GT :)
+best price to performance deal at present
-alphadog edition is not factory OCed as reported on some websites. default clocks. :(
-very small bundle. only Company of heros game and a lame drivers cd. a couple of cables and nothing else. atleast should have a few more dvds full of demos of all latest games and better manuals.
-present latest drivers from nvidia are not good (v169). very bad antialising bug(no AA in lots of games at all no matter how u try to set it, like timeshift, nfs carbon, stalker, and many more), buggy enhancements for games like crysis (like forced low setting to show better fps for stats and rankings) etc. just google and see
-more bugs with some games like DiRT, some versions of stalker. only gives <25 fps for some reason. most prob driver issue.
-reportedly 8800gt cant be OCed much. havent tried OC on mine yet.
-no temp/fam monitoring support in vista in nvidia control panel
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 03:27 PM
^^The XFX Alpha Dog edition also comes in three flavors.The plain,extreme and XXX the last two are overclocked.Want to overclock more.I will be ordering the HR-03 rev a for my 8800GT and overclock it so some extent.
Thanks to all the members who replied.
I hope i make a pleasant purchase.
keith_j_snyder2
10-01-2008, 03:39 PM
Ohh Yeah baby!
Congrats on the Dog...what a lucky dog u are...just kiddin!
Do post ur Crisis benchies with the default clock and overclocked!
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 03:41 PM
I'll be also buying the Q6600 after i sell my 8600GT SLI and E6550.
hellgate
10-01-2008, 08:18 PM
^^^ why buying the Q6600 when u can get the penryn quad cores now with higher clk speeds and bigger cache???also they oc to a much higher extent.
dOm1naTOr
10-01-2008, 09:16 PM
@Harvik780 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=11637)
u going for 8800GT too???!!!!! I think uve 2*8800 GTS and 2* 8600GT now itself.:-D
Whats with u mate? why waste so much money....atleast wait till 9600/9800.
And E6600@ 3.4 wud give far better performance that Q6600 in todays games. U shud be upgrading to quad only when games optimised for quads become common, nd by that time far better quads than Q6600 will be there for lesser price. Orelse ullve to upgrade again that time.
just my opinion dude.:)
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 10:08 PM
The 9800 will cost a lot when it launches even the GTS considering the new 8800GTS G92 still costs 23,000-26,000 from XFX.
I want to future proof the system with a quadcore because i assume games will come optimized for quad in late 2008 and the penryn 9650 only benefits slightly from its previous generation quad core.
And my E6600 is having problems at 3.4Ghz seems i got a bad chip.
The 9600 will be cost effective and be around Rs 13,000 but won't be able to beat the 8800GT so its out of the question.
Though i'll reconsider my thoughts on ur suggestion.
Sunny1211993
10-01-2008, 10:12 PM
^^
so,what do u say??
did i make the right choice by buying 8800GTS G92 512MB SLI??
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 10:22 PM
Ya....u sure did..
sk8as
10-01-2008, 10:46 PM
hello, i want to buy my computer a new graphics card and don't know which my computer's specifications: 1.82 GHz, 512 ram (will upgrade to about 2gb), and asus motherboard.
i would like to know what is the best choice for me. ty in advance.
P.S.
don't offer me to buy a new pc.
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 10:49 PM
^^What's your Budget??
sk8as
10-01-2008, 10:51 PM
i don't know it in your cash but i will say it in euros it's about 120 euros ^^
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 10:54 PM
ASUS EN 8600GTS 256MB will easily come in that price.If you take your budget a bit higher maybe you can go for an Asus 8800GT 256MB.
Or go for ATIs HD3850 which retails at around 120 euros or 176 USD.
Of the three i recommend the HD3850.
sk8as
10-01-2008, 10:55 PM
ok ty :P
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 10:58 PM
Did i tell you that u'll also need a good PSU.
sk8as
10-01-2008, 11:00 PM
im not very good at english and don't understand the meaning of PSU ^^ could you explain it? ^^
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 11:04 PM
Power Supply Unit.The component inside the PC cabinet on the top which powers the internals(like mother board,hard drivers,etc) through Alternating Current converting it to Direct Current.
A decent PSU will cost you very less say about 36 Euros.
The Conqueror
10-01-2008, 11:04 PM
I am planning to upgrade this pc to a high-end gaming rig in march-april 08 :
Core2Duo 2.66 Ghz
ASUS EN 8600 GT
2 GB DDR2 RAM
pls suggest the ideal config , should i go for 9800 or get 8800 ULTRA ??
also i want to upgrade my proccy to quad-core
sk8as
10-01-2008, 11:06 PM
oh.... :) just checked the shop in my country and HD3850 costs more than 120 euros :D i've got shocked when i saw it
i want to pay about 400 of my cash and it costs 610 :) so please could you tell me a cheaper one :P
Harvik780
10-01-2008, 11:07 PM
Then go for the 8600GTS.
Sunny1211993
10-01-2008, 11:07 PM
@HP
tell ur budget first
dOm1naTOr
10-01-2008, 11:17 PM
sk8as (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=34299)
did ya check so fast? If u r from Europe, then i wud suggest u to get HD 3850 from newegg.com, for 169$ for MSI one. Shipping is some 7$ or so.
MSI HD 3850 is far better than 8600GTS, infact in most cases 3850 is better than 8800GTS 320MB nd comes close to 8800GTS 640MB.
3850@ 169$ has killer value for money compared to nvidia.
hellgate
11-01-2008, 11:03 AM
any1 has any idea as to when penryn quads hit shelves in india???also is it worth upgrading from Q6600 to Q9650 or sud i wait 4 Nehalem????
The Conqueror
11-01-2008, 11:35 AM
@HP
tell ur budget first
1.5 lacs
Should i WAIT for 9800/9600 or go ahead with 8800 ultra ??
Ambar
11-01-2008, 12:19 PM
any1 has any idea as to when penryn quads hit shelves in india???also is it worth upgrading from Q6600 to Q9650 or sud i wait 4 Nehalem????
ummm...if im rite all the quad cores available today except the lower models are penyryn core...im not sure doh :D
Sunny1211993
11-01-2008, 12:24 PM
@HP-wait till march april coz many new things wud come till then.
The Conqueror
11-01-2008, 12:46 PM
@HP-wait till march april coz many new things wud come till then.
Yes, read my post carefully i am waiting till feb-march
kayos
11-01-2008, 01:05 PM
1.5 lacs
Should i WAIT for 9800/9600 or go ahead with 8800 ultra ??
why go ahead.. wait for sometime .. u have to buy it in march april and that according to no calculation is 2-3 months .. a lot will change so just sit back and game hard on ur present config and come back in march to ask the same question ...
waise with 1.5 lac u can put both of these in ur rig .. lol :p
The Conqueror
11-01-2008, 03:32 PM
why go ahead.. wait for sometime .. u have to buy it in march april and that according to no calculation is 2-3 months .. a lot will change so just sit back and game hard on ur present config and come back in march to ask the same question ...
waise with 1.5 lac u can put both of these in ur rig .. lol :p
According to my calculation,
GeForce 9800 GTX will cost about 70k and if i take in SLi it will be 1.4 lac.so how will i put 8800 GTX in SLI + 9800 GTX in SLi in my RIG ???
However i can put them if i get 1 9800 gtx and 1 8800 ultra .......
OKAY I will ask THIS question again in MARCH :-D
any more news about 9800 ?
nvidia
11-01-2008, 04:01 PM
^^What calculation made you think that the 9800GTX will cost 70k:shock: :confused:
kayos
11-01-2008, 04:04 PM
According to my calculation,
GeForce 9800 GTX will cost about 70k and if i take in SLi it will be 1.4 lac.so how will i put 8800 GTX in SLI + 9800 GTX in SLi in my RIG ???
However i can put them if i get 1 9800 gtx and 1 8800 ultra .......
OKAY I will ask THIS question again in MARCH :-D
any more news about 9800 ?
1.4L with SLi ....
they lost one customer....
i will be able to afford it on my own in 4-5 years time but that time it will be outdated for sure... so series 9 adios amigos.. !!!
no more thinking over it ..
my precious 8800GTS .. content with it !!
nvidia
11-01-2008, 04:06 PM
^^Dude i dont think it will cost 1.4Lacs!!!
Maybe each card will cost 50k.
xbonez
11-01-2008, 05:21 PM
they might cost 50k as soon as they release, but after about 3-4weeks, prices start plummeting...most probably within 1.5months of release, it'll come down to something like 30-35k
Ambar
11-01-2008, 07:07 PM
ya the sub 40k category will be much more affordable
hash!!
11-01-2008, 11:05 PM
ya the sub 40k category will be much more affordable
heh.. yeah... they wouldnt sell gamer oriented cards at that price, unless everyone's spending power increases 3 folds or something...
high priced professional cards are justified, cause thats serious business, not that gaming is not serious business, but because, gaming cards have a wider consumer base...
offtopic, and off thread as well i guess, but i figured noone would care to answer this anywhere else... could anyone tell me how good patriot memory modules are? im gettin a decent deal on a ddr2 800 mhz 1x2gb dual channel kit... not quite sure about the latency, probably 4-4-4-12, but i know its not basic value ram cause its got heatspreaders or a heatsink...
dont shoot me for posting this here... :)
dOm1naTOr
11-01-2008, 11:12 PM
Some cheap brands had heat spreaders on earlier days when DDR400 was common. So dun get fooled by heatspreaders.
And 4-4-4-12 is very gud timing and currently very gud[infact expensive] modules only supports those latencies. They are at least 2x or 2.5x costly.
SO i dun think its a very gud one.
And if u are getting 1GB 800 for sub 1k, then surelly it has very gud vfm. Orelse go for Transcent.
Transcent DDR2 667 CR1 can be easily oced to 780 or 800 CR1 @ 5-5-5-15
SO i think Transcent 800 can also subjected to decent ocing, at least another 150Mhz from 800.
And Transcent DDR2 800 1GB is for 1.1~1.2k.
The Conqueror
14-01-2008, 01:47 PM
I think instead of going for 9800 we should get 8800 GTX @ cheap prices this summer and enjoy games like crysis on it. next summer we can buy 9800 GTX and so on.................
so money is saved !
Rollercoaster
14-01-2008, 03:07 PM
Transcent DDR2 667 CR1 can be easily oced to 780 or 800 CR1 @ 5-5-5-15
SO i think Transcent 800 can also subjected to decent ocing, at least another 150Mhz from 800.
And Transcent DDR2 800 1GB is for 1.1~1.2k.
for going over 800mhz make sure the motherboard can support it. cause ddr2 interfaces are capped at 800. but probably all newer models from reputed companies like asus and gigabyte support over 800 speeds.
meghraj
14-01-2008, 03:18 PM
I have recently bought a new graphic card (Nvidia xfx 8600gt 512mb) ddr2 techlology....
so can u tell me what is the difference between ddr2 and ddr3 technology graphic card.
The Conqueror
14-01-2008, 03:34 PM
A much difference between DDR2 and DDR3
The first commercial product to claim using the "DDR2" technology was the NVIDIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA) GeForce FX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_FX) 5800 graphics card. However, it is important to note that this GDDR-2 memory used on graphics cards is not DDR2 per se, but rather an early midpoint between DDR and DDR2 technologies. Using "DDR2" to refer to GDDR-2 is a colloquial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloquialism) misnomer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misnomer). In particular, the performance-enhancing doubling of the I/O clock rate is missing. It had severe overheating issues due to the nominal DDR voltages. ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI) has since designed the GDDR technology further into GDDR3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDDR3), which is more true to the DDR2 specifications, though with several additions suited for graphics cards.
GDDR3 is now commonly used in modern graphics cards and some tablet PCs. However, further confusion has been added to the mix with the appearance of budget and mid-range graphics cards which claim to use "DDR2". These cards actually use standard DDR2 chips designed for use as main system memory. These chips cannot achieve the clock speeds that GDDR3 can but are inexpensive enough to be used as memory on mid-range cards.
FROM Wikipedia,The Free Encyclopedia
Read More here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gddr2#Relation_to_GDDR_memory
Hi Guys,
Recently bought a POV 7200gs and I want to connect my PC to TV.
I have an OLD CRT tv..so no dvi/hdmi output..just have one "video in" connector behind the TV
Can anyone tell me :-
1) Whats the name of the cable used in connecting PC-to-TV
2) How exactly does it look..like how many pins/connectors on each side
3) Rough idea about the price
4) Any particular Brand which is good
Harvik780
15-01-2008, 09:56 PM
Can anyone tell me :-
1) Whats the name of the cable used in connecting PC-to-TV
For your TV the cable should be S-Video to Composite Video-In
2) How exactly does it look..like how many pins/connectors on each side
It has one S-Video in cable which plugs in the S-Video socket of your Graphics Card.It has three other cables one for Composite Video-In which plugs in Video-In socket of your TV and two other for L-Audio(Left) and R-Audio(Right)which are pretty useless.
http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/svideo2rca1.jpg
This Image is without the insulation wire and L-Audio And R-Audio.
3) Rough idea about the price
Price will vary from Rs 100 to Rs300 depending on brand and other factors like length and plating.
4) Any particular Brand which is good
Don't know about brands.
dOm1naTOr
15-01-2008, 10:19 PM
If ur TC dn have S vid only then a cable like this cud work.
I costed me bout 200/-, maybe due to gud quality. The cable was of very gud quality. Maybe similar cheaper ones are available.
[/URL][URL="http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10023881xi8.jpg"]http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7885/10023881xi8.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10023881xi8.jpg)
u can extend with another RF[i think thats the name] cable and adapter
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9378/10023921vq8.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10023921vq8.jpg)
And for best quality output get gud quality cables only. The ones with gold colour has med~gud quality, even though they are nowhere near original gold plating.
Some TVs video in connector will have small shock. This is a TV h/w problem[not harmful for TV], but cud problem with Gcard. And this happens with most TV after 3~4 yrs. Just test by touching ur finger on the vid in of TVF while on:- no u wont get big shock, just a small disturbance. First check that, nd if its there, get TV repaired. Its a small defect nd will only costs 150/- to 200/-.
sagargv
15-01-2008, 10:38 PM
can u get audio on the tv as well ?
Harvik780
15-01-2008, 10:43 PM
Yes on HDTV with HD series from ATI.
sagargv
15-01-2008, 10:45 PM
ha!! i dont have either of em
..
dOm1naTOr
15-01-2008, 10:49 PM
Or u can get something like this for audio on TV if u dun have HDMI option
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1200/10023941my7.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10023941my7.jpg)
@harvik, @dominator...
arrey wah !!
very well nd thoroughly explained..thanx :)
slyfox
17-01-2008, 10:54 AM
i was thinking of buying a 8600gt gcard. can sum1 tell me whether i shud go for 256 mb gddr3 or 512 mb ddr2 version.
kayos
17-01-2008, 11:46 AM
^^256mb ddr3 definitely ..
256 and 512 wont make much of difference...
whats ur config BTW..??
realdan
17-01-2008, 02:11 PM
my 6600gt failing with frame rate slowing down...screen dimming..its not a power problem as a 7600gt from another pc works fine...
So i m scouting for a replacement..does it make sense to go for a 8800gt at this point in time
or
should i just get some low budget replacement until the new directx 10.1 card come along?
I have to decide by today...pls suggest
nvidia
17-01-2008, 02:40 PM
If you have the money to buy a 8800GT then you can go for it. You can also wait for the 9 series cards and once they are released you can get them:)
realdan
17-01-2008, 02:48 PM
you know if the 9 series get released any time soon then the existing range of 8 series will exhibit a fall in the price...so thats what i m thinking..
nvidia
17-01-2008, 02:50 PM
You are right. If you wait until the 9series cards are released then you can get one of them or you can buy the 8 series cards which will be cheaper.
The choice is still yours :D
realdan
17-01-2008, 03:05 PM
any idea about an expected release date...cos if it is going to be too long...i might as well get the 8800gt now
nvidia
17-01-2008, 03:07 PM
maybe by feb itll be released
Harvik780
17-01-2008, 03:08 PM
Yes in Feb 9800GX2 and 9600GT will be released.But both will be pretty much useless,the first one against the 9800GTX and the second one against the 9800GT.
realdan
17-01-2008, 04:23 PM
i might as well get a cheaper card..,max inr5000 to get me through...for the time being
sagargv
17-01-2008, 04:31 PM
^^ 8600GT . . take from galaxy or any other brand than XFX .. make sure it has 256mb GDDR3 . then are many DDR2 models , dont buy them.
IllegalUser
17-01-2008, 05:32 PM
hey guys.. this 8500gt 512MB DDR2 Card is good ??
Hey whats the difference between 8800 GT & 8800 GTS??
nvidia
17-01-2008, 05:37 PM
^^Stay away from 8500 card. Its good for nothing.
Even if you are a casual gamer dont buy anything less than 8600GT.
sagargv
17-01-2008, 07:58 PM
and for any card , dont go4 ddr2 even if the memory is larger .. go4 gddr3
nvidia
17-01-2008, 08:47 PM
^^ 8600GT . . take from galaxy or any other brand than XFX .. make sure it has 256mb GDDR3 . then are many DDR2 models , dont buy them.
Why are you saying to stay away from XFX?
sagargv
17-01-2008, 09:12 PM
not to stay away from xfx .. stay away from xfx 8600GT . .a model commonly available has heating issues .. for any other gpu , i too vote for xfx . for 8600 avoid xfx . thats my opinion. thats all . by all means take the xfx 8600 , but u're in trouble if it has heating issue.
nvidia
17-01-2008, 09:14 PM
There is a new version of 8600GT named UDD 3 or 7 or something like that.
I have the old version of XFX 8600GT, but no heating issues...
sagargv
17-01-2008, 09:39 PM
i beleive i had pm'ed u about the 8600GT....not only mine, several other people's xfx 8600's are overheating . i'm getting a replacement tomorrow , lemme c.
the new version is UDD , but many shops still have UDF7 , some of which have heating probs. . .so instead of all these probs , for just 8600 , y not stay away from xfx(for 8600's only) ?
thats all.
realdan
18-01-2008, 01:58 AM
damn i left and didnt see the warnings about xfx 8600gt and got it for 4900...
sagargv
18-01-2008, 10:20 AM
^^ any heating problems ? OR are u lucky ?
nvidia
18-01-2008, 03:05 PM
^^Then in that case Asus is the next best since they have a larger fan and cooling is better. :cool: But its more expensive:(
Harvik780
18-01-2008, 03:50 PM
Asus 8600GTS is available for Rs 8100 at ITwares.
utsav
18-01-2008, 03:57 PM
Loot liya
Harvik780
18-01-2008, 04:10 PM
^^Kisko Kisne Loot Liya.
nvidia
18-01-2008, 04:40 PM
Asus 8600GTS is available for Rs 8100 at ITwares.
Whoa!! My friend bought the card for 13k bucks!
And i got my 8600GT for 8k, back in July last year:(
realdan
18-01-2008, 08:41 PM
xfx 8600gt 256mb ddr3 is not available anymore thankfully, i have already paid for it yesterday evening but was told to come today to collect it as they didnt get the item yesterday
today i was instead offered the xfx 8600gt 512mb ddr3 for 6500
enough is enough i decided to go for xfx 8800gt 512mb ddr3 for around 12750
nvidia
18-01-2008, 08:48 PM
^^Good decision.
sagargv
18-01-2008, 10:48 PM
xfx 8600gt 256mb ddr3 is not available anymore thankfully, i have already paid for it yesterday evening but was told to come today to collect it as they didnt get the item yesterday
today i was instead offered the xfx 8600gt 512mb ddr3 for 6500
enough is enough i decided to go for xfx 8800gt 512mb ddr3 for around 12750
very wise and a wonderful choice. . too bad 8800GT wasnt there wen i got the card
The Conqueror
18-01-2008, 11:23 PM
Asus 8600GTS is available for Rs 8100 at ITwares.
:shock::shock: I bought ASUS EN 8600 GT for 12k in August :(
wnns13
21-01-2008, 09:05 AM
Hello
Is The Nvidia GeForce FX5500 PCi or the VisionTek Radeon X1300 PCI Better, and please dont recomend another card because it is al that is near us and my ATI 9250 is overheating so badly that i have to have a big box fan beside the computer! only when running games though,
and will the ATI X1300 or the GeForce FX5500 run GTA SA On High and will it run NFS MW good and will it run Splinter Cell Chaos Theory Using the Shadermodel 3 path? i think 21fps-30fps is good
Please Reply!
My System:
Intel 3.0ghz Processor
512ram
PCI Only Motherboard
EAX Soundcard
ps sorry for the other post i did not see this
ManiDhillon
21-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Asus M2A-VM
AMD Athlon X2 4000+(2.10GHz OC to 2.30GHz)
1 GB DDR2 SDRAM @ 667MHz
250 GB Seagate SATA-II
AMD 690G(Radeon X1250) Supporting SM 2.0
19" Wide LCD LG
450 W PSU Intex
I want a ATI Radeon chipset based GFX card for this PC.
And under Rs. 15k! Do I need any other upgrade to support this Card?
nvidia
21-01-2008, 08:44 PM
^^For 15k, the best card you can get is 8800GT but its from nvidia... I dont think high end ATI cards are available in India.
Harvik780
21-01-2008, 09:17 PM
I want a ATI Radeon chipset based GFX card for this PC.
And under Rs. 15k! Do I need any other upgrade to support this Card?
Seriously don't go for nvidia cards if your PC has AMD/ATI chipset as it will result in compatibility issues which are not heard of in common.
Buy the ATI HD3870 for Rs 14,000 from theitwares.com which ships to anywhere in India.
They are located in Mumbai and ship to anywhere in India.
quan chi
21-01-2008, 10:00 PM
well how much watt smps does 7600gt require.please do reply.
entrana
21-01-2008, 10:01 PM
400 watt
quan chi
21-01-2008, 10:04 PM
well won't it work below that.
sagargv
21-01-2008, 10:34 PM
difficult. . u may have stability issues .. moreover , the efficiancy and amperage on 12 volt rails matter ..
if its a cheap local 350W , it wont run
if its antec 350W , it's likely to run.
quan chi
22-01-2008, 12:35 AM
well i have 230v power supply written over its back then how much watt does it support.
sagargv
22-01-2008, 11:13 AM
i think u're talking about the input AC voltage . . neway , 230W will not be enough .. get a better one. i think a zebronics 500W pure platinum - 2k should do.
quan chi
22-01-2008, 04:07 PM
well i have vip 300w max output smps.
is there any graphics card that will support it.:(
entrana
22-01-2008, 06:50 PM
i think the 8400 series might work
nvidia
22-01-2008, 08:52 PM
^^8400 cards might work but spending money on that card is like throwing money into the fire:D
entrana
22-01-2008, 08:54 PM
hey im not asking for it
MetalheadGautham
22-01-2008, 09:01 PM
^8600gt at 5.5k
512 mb?
quan chi
22-01-2008, 09:57 PM
i think the 8400 series might work
what about 8600gt someone told 8600gt will work fine.
moreover 8500gt require 350w.will it work??
and how much does 7300 or 6600 gt require.
arun_cool
22-01-2008, 10:39 PM
^^better buy a cheap 400W smps for 400 bucks.....
quan chi
22-01-2008, 11:08 PM
well can anyone please give me the correct and exact info about which graphics card will work in my system normally.
you can post about ati cards also.
and will 7300 gt work fine.
please please do reply.
i dont want to upgrade my smps now.
MetalheadGautham
23-01-2008, 01:38 AM
POV 8600GT 1GB DDR2 Rs. 6050
XFX 8600GT 512MB DDR2 Rs. 6150
POV 8600GT 512MB DDR2 Rs. 5550
which is the best?(VFM/Performance)
hellgate
23-01-2008, 10:48 AM
POV 8600GT 1GB DDR2 Rs. 6050
XFX 8600GT 512MB DDR2 Rs. 6150
POV 8600GT 512MB DDR2 Rs. 5550
which is the best?(VFM/Performance)
get a 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 instead.
i dont think 8600GT will ever use the 512MB/1GB frame buffer.so it makes no sense in buying one that too when it has slower memory (DDR2).
nvidia
23-01-2008, 12:43 PM
POV 8600GT 1GB DDR2 Rs. 6050
XFX 8600GT 512MB DDR2 Rs. 6150
POV 8600GT 512MB DDR2 Rs. 5550
which is the best?(VFM/Performance)
If you want to play games at very high resolutions like 1440*1280or more, youll need more memory.
But 8600GT just doesnt have the power to give more FPS at that resolution in games like Crysis.
AFAIK, 256MB is good enuf, but if you get DDR3 512MB card, then you can buy that.
Tech_Wiz
23-01-2008, 12:47 PM
I use a 400 W SMPS for my Config in Sig, It works like charm.
nvidia
23-01-2008, 12:59 PM
^^Do you use some branded SMPS?
quan chi
23-01-2008, 04:01 PM
I use a 400 W SMPS for my Config in Sig, It works like charm.
as i have already mentioned i have a vip 300w smps. and 8500gt requires 350w smps.will it work properly.
sagargv
23-01-2008, 04:22 PM
i doubt it. . ur smps may be rated at 300W , but its efficiancy will be 60-70% . .
nvidia
23-01-2008, 08:43 PM
as i have already mentioned i have a vip 300w smps. and 8500gt requires 350w smps.will it work properly.
it definitely work. Yours is rated 300W and it requires 350W. Moreover your SMPS will not give all that 300W power..
Btw, why do you want to buy 8500GT???
Its a complete waste of money even if you are a casual gamer.
If you have a low budget then get a 2nd hand 8600GT. But stay away from 8500 cards...
quan chi
23-01-2008, 08:56 PM
it definitely work.
wont or will.:confused: :D
nvidia
23-01-2008, 09:03 PM
wont or will.:confused: :D
Sorry... I mean to say it wont work... :D
slyfox
29-01-2008, 12:11 AM
i wanted to buy a graphics card. to tell you i m not a big gamer but will love to play games like hl2, fear, aoe3 etc. i was considering the geforce 6600gt based card. shud i be going for agp version of pcie version. i mean is thr a noticeable diff. b/w the two. also the 128mb gddr3 and 256mb ddr2 is cr8ing confusion. can sum1 quote the prices the cards.
xbonez
29-01-2008, 12:52 AM
definetly go for PCI-E if ur mobo supports it...i'd suggest 256mb gddr2
also, i'd suggest u go for some other chipset instead of 6600
entrana
29-01-2008, 09:30 AM
i wanted to buy a graphics card. to tell you i m not a big gamer but will love to play games like hl2, fear, aoe3 etc. i was considering the geforce 6600gt based card. shud i be going for agp version of pcie version. i mean is thr a noticeable diff. b/w the two. also the 128mb gddr3 and 256mb ddr2 is cr8ing confusion. can sum1 quote the prices the cards.
go for the 8 series if u have pcie supprot. check theitwares.com for prices
slyfox
29-01-2008, 02:35 PM
i hv got pcie support but my budget is ~5k(not more). that is why i ws considering 6 series.
it wares doesnt list ne 6 series card price
entrana
29-01-2008, 04:06 PM
dude 6 series is almost obsolete. and with 5k u can try to find the 8600gt. if not 8500gt. and for 3k u can get 8400. why the hell did u even think of the 6 series. there is a reason they arent listed anywhere.
slyfox
29-01-2008, 10:10 PM
i chkd itwares n found xfx 8600gt @ rs 5100 (256 mb ddr3) wheras the others were costlier. is thr some problem in xfx 8600gt. i came across a post where sum1 wrote that this xfx card has heating problems.
btw ne ati card ~5k which can be considered over 8600gt??
quan chi
30-01-2008, 01:09 PM
is there any good ati cards that could perform equivalent to 7600gt and also consumes less power i mean psu requirement low.
if there is. then can you please kindly post its details.
what will be its price.
entrana
30-01-2008, 03:00 PM
i chkd itwares n found xfx 8600gt @ rs 5100 (256 mb ddr3) wheras the others were costlier. is thr some problem in xfx 8600gt. i came across a post where sum1 wrote that this xfx card has heating problems.
btw ne ati card ~5k which can be considered over 8600gt??
dont worry this card is fine .
to quan chi
usually ati card consume much power( i used ati gpu some time ago) and why do u even bother for a ati alternative? just get 7600gt
quan chi
30-01-2008, 03:58 PM
entrana
just inquiring.as i have heard ati's cards are cheaper than nvidia's.
entrana
30-01-2008, 06:09 PM
well not in india theyre not. and id suggest stay away from the 7xxx series. its the dawn of the 8 series!!! get a 8600gt instead of a 7600gt.
slyfox
30-01-2008, 08:24 PM
Why are you saying to stay away from XFX?
not to stay away from xfx .. stay away from xfx 8600GT . .a model commonly available has heating issues .. for any other gpu , i too vote for xfx . for 8600 avoid xfx . thats my opinion. thats all . by all means take the xfx 8600 , but u're in trouble if it has heating issue.
this was the post i was referring to........
johnjjx
30-01-2008, 08:31 PM
well not in india theyre not. and id suggest stay away from the 7xxx series. its the dawn of the 8 series!!! get a 8600gt instead of a 7600gt.
8 series true.....still those who tight on pockets can get 76gt too...max 5-7fps diff in games between these 2.
added bonus in 86gt is jus dx10 support...
quan chi
30-01-2008, 09:59 PM
well when installing a graphics card is it required to uninstall the onboard graphics driver if you have any.
harryneopotter
30-01-2008, 10:25 PM
well when installing a graphics card is it required to uninstall the onboard graphics driver if you have any.
YES .... the proper procedure is
1. Uninstall the onboard grfx driver.
2. Shut down the PC.
3. Open cabinet and install new GRFX CARD.
4. Boot up the pc and install new drivers.
vps85
31-01-2008, 11:19 AM
Hi ,
Which is best . 256 mb ddr3 or 512 mb dd2 8600GT of XFX..
and what the cost?
Im planning for 2GB of ddr2 ram @ 667mhz so which shud i go?
sagargv
31-01-2008, 11:56 AM
256mb gddr3 is better. price around 5k.
for ram , i think u can go4 transcend.
MetalheadGautham
31-01-2008, 02:18 PM
how is GeCube RX3870XT 512 MB DDR4 Rs. 14400compared to XFX 8600GT and XFX 8800GT ?
I am asking because I saw that it has GDDR4 RAM.
also please tell me something about Sapphire HD 2600XT 256MB DDR4 Rs.7100
sagargv
31-01-2008, 02:28 PM
2600xt at 7.1k - terrible buy . .offers marginal performance improvement over 8600GT available at 5k
3870xt at 14.4k is a pretty good deal . but it still is just behind 8800GT . find the prices of 8800GT as well .if thats also at 14k , 8800GT is better. but however if u intend to use the card for 2 yrs 3870 will be a better choice as it supports dx10.1
and how can you possibly compare 8600GT and 3870 ?
different cards of nearly same price are compared. otherwise , we see if the price difference is worth the performance the costlier one offers.
3870 is 3 to 4 times better than the 8600GT . its worth the price difference . so f u have the money get the 3870 .
quan chi
31-01-2008, 03:32 PM
guys i have another question well i have seen a guy in another forum asking this.
it is like this my mobo only supports ddr ram(the main ram).
now does this has to do anything with the gfx card ram.i mean can i install a gfx card with ddr2 ram as these days gfx cards has got ddr2 or more ram.
MetalheadGautham
31-01-2008, 03:39 PM
2600xt at 7.1k - terrible buy . .offers marginal performance improvement over 8600GT available at 5k
3870xt at 14.4k is a pretty good deal . but it still is just behind 8800GT . find the prices of 8800GT as well .if thats also at 14k , 8800GT is better. but however if u intend to use the card for 2 yrs 3870 will be a better choice as it supports dx10.1
and how can you possibly compare 8600GT and 3870 ?
different cards of nearly same price are compared. otherwise , we see if the price difference is worth the performance the costlier one offers.
3870 is 3 to 4 times better than the 8600GT . its worth the price difference . so f u have the money get the 3870 .
well, I am looking at those cards because they sport GDDR4 memory, not GDDR3 like XFX 8800GT. And yes, the DirectX 10.1 factor is important here for me. But so is OpenGL V3, when it comes, as I am a linux user, and I hardly care about windows(ecept games).
And the problem is that I am a total JackAss when it comes to ATi Cards, as I only have knowledge of nVidia cards. I hear lots about ATi's VFM, reliability, etc etc from °K£l†huzaD°, and he also tried to explain their nomenclature, but I, who struggled in the begining even with Organic Chemistry Nonmenclature :lol: couldn't follow a thing, when it comes to comparing ATi and nVidia cards with names.
sagargv
31-01-2008, 04:46 PM
guys i have another question well i have seen a guy in another forum asking this.
it is like this my mobo only supports ddr ram(the main ram).
now does this has to do anything with the gfx card ram.i mean can i install a gfx card with ddr2 ram as these days gfx cards has got ddr2 or more ram.
the nature of ram in mainboard and gfx card are not at all related. a mainboard supporting ddr1 ram can support a g-card with ddr2 or gddr3 or gddr4. . there is no connection between the two . .the gfx card will use the ram present on it and the rest of ur pc will use the ram on the motherboard.
well, I am looking at those cards because they sport GDDR4 memory, not GDDR3 like XFX 8800GT. And yes, the DirectX 10.1 factor is important here for me. But so is OpenGL V3, when it comes, as I am a linux user, and I hardly care about windows(ecept games).
And the problem is that I am a total JackAss when it comes to ATi Cards, as I only have knowledge of nVidia cards. I hear lots about ATi's VFM, reliability, etc etc from °K£l†huzaD°, and he also tried to explain their nomenclature, but I, who struggled in the begining even with Organic Chemistry Nonmenclature couldn't follow a thing, when it comes to comparing ATi and nVidia cards with names.
what makes you think that cards having gddr4 perform better than cards having gddr3 . even 8800ultra uses gddr3.
if u're a linux user better to go4 nvidia cards. their driver support for linux is better than ati
dx10.1 is not of much importance now. and it will not gain importance surely for another year. no idea of openGL3.
as u said ati cards are more vfm . but they are ridiculously over priced in india and hence nvidia cards offer better vfm in india.
nomenclature is no big deal . .
lets take amd hd 2900xt as an example
1. the first digit starting from left( 2 in this case ) , gives the series to which the card belongs to . this will define its capabilities like dx10 or dx10.1 . which shader model version etc.. but it doesnt tell much about its performace
2.the second digit from left ( 9 in this case ) , tells whether its a low end , high end or mid end card. Usually ,
- 1 or 2 represents onboard solution ( ex. radeon x1250 )
- 3 or 4 represents low end solution ( ex. hd 2400xt )
- 6 represents mid end solution ( hd2600xt )
- 8 or 9 represnts high end solution ( hd2900xt )
3.the third digit from the left ( 0 in this case ) . this tells if its a new version made by modifying the older one . example ( x1950..compare it to x1900 )
- 0 for older one
- 5 for newer one
4. the suffixs are xt , le , pro , x2 etc.... this tells the performance in the same type of card. xt > pro . x2 represents double gpu card.
quan chi
31-01-2008, 05:10 PM
the nature of ram in mainboard and gfx card are not at all related. a mainboard supporting ddr1 ram can support a g-card with ddr2 or gddr3 or gddr4. . there is no connection between the two . .the gfx card will use the ram present on it and the rest of ur pc will use the ram on the motherboard.
thank's bhai.:)
MetalheadGautham
31-01-2008, 05:54 PM
the nature of ram in mainboard and gfx card are not at all related. a mainboard supporting ddr1 ram can support a g-card with ddr2 or gddr3 or gddr4. . there is no connection between the two . .the gfx card will use the ram present on it and the rest of ur pc will use the ram on the motherboard.
what makes you think that cards having gddr4 perform better than cards having gddr3 . even 8800ultra uses gddr3.
if u're a linux user better to go4 nvidia cards. their driver support for linux is better than ati
dx10.1 is not of much importance now. and it will not gain importance surely for another year. no idea of openGL3.
as u said ati cards are more vfm . but they are ridiculously over priced in india and hence nvidia cards offer better vfm in india.
nomenclature is no big deal . .
lets take amd hd 2900xt as an example
1. the first digit starting from left( 2 in this case ) , gives the series to which the card belongs to . this will define its capabilities like dx10 or dx10.1 . which shader model version etc.. but it doesnt tell much about its performace
2.the second digit from left ( 9 in this case ) , tells whether its a low end , high end or mid end card. Usually ,
- 1 or 2 represents onboard solution ( ex. radeon x1250 )
- 3 or 4 represents low end solution ( ex. hd 2400xt )
- 6 represents mid end solution ( hd2600xt )
- 8 or 9 represnts high end solution ( hd2900xt )
3.the third digit from the left ( 0 in this case ) . this tells if its a new version made by modifying the older one . example ( x1950..compare it to x1900 )
- 0 for older one
- 5 for newer one
4. the suffixs are xt , le , pro , x2 etc.... this tells the performance in the same type of card. xt > pro . x2 represents double gpu card.
thanks for bothering with the nomenclature. I really am grateful.
but for now, I will just wait for a good card. till then, p4@2.66 + 256mbDDR400 + intelGMA900 will do :(
HellKing
31-01-2008, 06:01 PM
Hii guyzz!!!!
Mom finally agreed to get me a gfx card in the 6000-7000 range. So I'm thinking of getting a Zebronics 8600GT gfx card! The 512 MB version costs around 5200/-. What are your opinions??
My rig is :
Pentium D 2.66GHz
1GB Kingston RAM
D945G Mobo..
and the power supply that came with ma iBall cabinet (probably 400W)
So tell me, howzz the purchase??
sagargv
31-01-2008, 06:12 PM
thanks for bothering with the nomenclature. I really am grateful.
but for now, I will just wait for a good card. till then, p4@2.66 + 256mbDDR400 + intelGMA900 will do :(
you're welcome . i too had gma 900. then changed mobo to d101 and onboard is x200 , pretty good compared to intel 915 and 945...ur sig is pretty cool...
Hii guyzz!!!!
Mom finally agreed to get me a gfx card in the 6000-7000 range. So I'm thinking of getting a Zebronics 8600GT gfx card! The 512 MB version costs around 5200/-. What are your opinions??
My rig is :
Pentium D 2.66GHz
1GB Kingston RAM
D945G Mobo..
and the power supply that came with ma iBall cabinet (probably 400W)
So tell me, howzz the purchase??
i think u're referring to zebronics 512mb ddr2 8600GT. no , its not the card of choice for your price. 256mb gddr3 performs better than 512mb ddr2...
get galaxy OR point of view 256mb gddr3 8600GT for 5.5k. i think ur psu(the one with ur cabby) should suffice. but if ur budget permits , get a zebronics pure platinum 400W/500W ( around 1.5k ) . this will allow more stable OCing of the card.
and oh yeah , i almost forgot to mention . for 8600GT , i recommend you to avoid XFX. the market is flooded with udf7 versions of the xfx 8600gt which has severe overheating issues . if u can get xfx 8600GT udd3 or use3 models , then get it. otherwise stick to POV/galaxy.
HellKing
31-01-2008, 06:49 PM
Okay..
Then I'll try for Galaxy 256MB 8600GT..
Anything from the ATI stable of dx10 in my price range??
sagargv
31-01-2008, 10:09 PM
amd radeon hd 2600xt - 7.1k but it performs nearly same as 8600GT which is at 5k .. so go4 geforce 8600GT.
yogi7272
31-01-2008, 10:39 PM
Okay..
Then I'll try for Galaxy 256MB 8600GT..
Anything from the ATI stable of dx10 in my price range??
get galaxy oc edition .. for 8600gt 256mb is enough .. no need for 512 mb .. used it ..overclocks very well and performance is pretty good ..
and forget abt dx10 gaming using these mid range cards ..
warfreak
01-02-2008, 12:14 PM
I have a question guys. Is there any point in buying the 512 mb version of 8600 GT DDR3 ? It costs at around Rs.7500 I think. What is the performance gain compared to the 256MB version?
If it is significant then should I go for it? Or should I extend my budget to Rs.14000 and get a 8800GT instead ?
entrana
01-02-2008, 12:31 PM
of course u should get a 8800gt. in fact if u take a 8600gt instead of a 8800gt u will be an idiot seriously
sagargv
01-02-2008, 01:51 PM
i dont think a 512mb gddr3 for 8600GT will improve performace all that much because 512mb comes in handy at high res and 8600 cant render fast enough to run games at high res . so a 256 mb should do . instead of 512mb 8600 , at 8k a 7900GS will be a much better option.
entrana
01-02-2008, 07:45 PM
^^dont listen to sagargv when u can buy a 8800gt do it!!
warfreak
01-02-2008, 08:11 PM
Thanks for your opinion guys. I think I'll have to push my budget to double to get a 8800GT. Now I have Rs.15000 to spare(I was saving that for an external hard disk,but what the heck!). Which brand should I go for?
Sunny1211993
01-02-2008, 08:24 PM
ASUS EN8800 GT or XFX 8800 GT
sagargv
01-02-2008, 09:03 PM
^^dont listen to sagargv when u can buy a 8800gt do it!!
i'm sorry i thought i was referring to hellgate. .
i think i'm misunderstood. i think 8800GT(14k) > 7900GS(8k) > 8600GT(5k) . .
choose whatever comes into ur budget .. and dont forget about the smps.
instead of 8600GTS , get the 7900GS which happens to fall to the same budget is what i recommend.
and in my opinion 8600GT 512mb ddr3 at 7.5k isnt a great deal and it is wiser to go for 7900GS.
i think there is nothing wrong with the order i wrote .i would be grateful if you could correct me if i'm mistaken.
Thanks for your opinion guys. I think I'll have to push my budget to double to get a 8800GT. Now I have Rs.15000 to spare(I was saving that for an external hard disk,but what the heck!). Which brand should I go for?
for 15k , get the 8800GT + cooler master 600W or corsair 450W smps ( 3.5k )
most people owning xfx 8800GT seem to be satisfied. i dont know about asus 8800GT.but i think its safe to go for xfx 8800GT.
quadroplex780
01-02-2008, 09:08 PM
Asus EN8800gt has a custom Temp sensor on the PCB so the only software to monitor its temp is ASUS smart doctor(latest beta).
Earlier versions had overheating issues so asus changed the cooler to a dual slot one
Remeber when u buy an asus en8800gt make sure its with the dual slot cooler
By the way my bro's XFX 8800GT runs ultra cool.
Sunny1211993
01-02-2008, 09:33 PM
^^
whats the temp??
my 8800 GTS 512 MB G92 runs at 55-60 C
warfreak
01-02-2008, 09:41 PM
Thanks for the information guys. So ASUS EN8800GT it is.
One last request:-Can I have the performance benchmarks of Oblivion, Unreal Tournament 3,Crysis and Call Of Duty 4 for the above graphics card? Just to convince myself that it would be a good buy.
quadroplex780
01-02-2008, 09:46 PM
^^
whats the temp??
my 8800 GTS 512 MB G92 runs at 55-60 C
Idle-38C,100% load-54C(rivatuner)
Thanks for the information guys. So ASUS EN8800GT it is.
One last request:-Can I have the performance benchmarks of Oblivion, Unreal Tournament 3,Crysis and Call Of Duty 4 for the above graphics card? Just to convince myself that it would be a good buy.
Head to www.guru3D.com for reviews.
Sunny1211993
01-02-2008, 09:48 PM
^^
now thats what is called 'cooool'.:D
BTW when is 3870 X2 coming to India.im planning to buy one
entrana
01-02-2008, 10:59 PM
apne system se shanti nahin mila kya?
Sunny1211993
01-02-2008, 11:03 PM
apne liye nahi bro ke liye!!!!
nvidia
02-02-2008, 10:44 AM
^^
BTW when is 3870 X2 coming to India.im planning to buy one
When will it come?
Any idea bout the cost?
entrana
02-02-2008, 11:24 AM
should be around 30k
Sunny1211993
02-02-2008, 12:15 PM
^^
no 20k max
nvidia
02-02-2008, 12:16 PM
What about the 9 series cards?
Sunny1211993
02-02-2008, 12:17 PM
^^
in Feb!!
entrana
02-02-2008, 12:18 PM
jesus is everyone that stupid. NO BLOODY 9 CARDS OUT YET !! LET IT COME OUT!!
nvidia
02-02-2008, 12:21 PM
^^I know its not out yet!
Just tell me the approx price of the mid range cards in 9 series...
sagargv
02-02-2008, 01:39 PM
10-12k
entrana
02-02-2008, 06:05 PM
how the hell can u assume the price of something which isnt out yet. let it come out then ask all the prices you want.
nvidia
02-02-2008, 06:07 PM
^^Once its out we can find the prices ourselves.
I asked if you have any idea bout it...
sagargv
02-02-2008, 06:33 PM
hahaha. nvidia's mid range cards at the time of introduction have been priced around 10k in india(for the past 3 series ) . since 9600GT is expected to be the next mid range card, i ventured a guess about its price. thats all !! i aint seeing the future ok. .LOL
sonu1983
02-02-2008, 06:45 PM
guys my gigabyte 8800GT is runnin high...idle 56 with 50% fan speed..load 72 with 90% fan speed..am worried .. is the temp too high..if yes..should i go for a cooler?n which 1?
Ambar
02-02-2008, 07:06 PM
guys my gigabyte 8800GT is runnin high...idle 56 with 50% fan speed..load 72 with 90% fan speed..am worried .. is the temp too high..if yes..should i go for a cooler?n which 1?
dood ur 8800 gt is very much runnin cool....my roomies 8800gt alpha dog runs at idle- 65-69 and load- 85-90 :O...
dOm1naTOr
02-02-2008, 10:17 PM
XFX 8800GT has slightly bigger fan so itll be cooler than other having reference design, But custom cooler like Asus can do better nd even better if its dual slot
one.
Harvik780
02-02-2008, 11:10 PM
I doubt that..head on to guru3d and look for ECS 8800GT dual turbo edition and you'll laugh.
My 8800GT runs at 34-38C idle and 52-54C load.
nvidia
03-02-2008, 03:33 PM
^^Thats soo cool!
My 8600GT runs at 70+C under load :(
sagargv
03-02-2008, 04:49 PM
^ hahahaha . u shud be happy that ur xfx 8600GT is running around 70+c .. mine runs around 90C LOL.. .
nvidia
03-02-2008, 04:52 PM
^^90? :shock:
The maximum i have seen is 82C. But i think my card would touch the 90C mark if i didnt have the 2 extra fans near the graphics card in the cabinet:D
zeest
03-02-2008, 06:29 PM
Please tell me the exact model number of XFX 8600GT graphics card that doesn't have heating problems? I want to buy one in a few days.
nvidia
03-02-2008, 06:31 PM
I think the udd3 has no heating problems and i believe this model is not widely available in India. You can get the Asus EN8600GT which will cost a little more but has better cooling... It will be good for overclocking ;)
zeest
03-02-2008, 06:44 PM
It is very expensive. I asked itwares guy. He says that asus en8600gt is at 7k. Please make it sure whats the correct model of the card. I think u r not sure.
sagargv
03-02-2008, 06:53 PM
^^ why are u so fidgety . LOL .u cud have gone with harvik's card , but i suppose he gave it to sabertoothe .. and ne reason why u want to cling to XFX no matter what and y are u against galaxy so much ?
i got my card from a local vendor . he first gave the galaxy card , but i refused and insisted that he bring me a XFX card and i regret that choice i made. you can ask other memebers abt the galaxy / POV cards , i'm sure u'll get positive response.
regarding the models of XFX having no overheating issue , the model than nvidia8800 suggested is rite . it doesnt have heating issues but retails at 7.5k i hear . go back a few pages in this thread and u'll find out abt it. u'll be hard pressed to find that model . it'll be easier to buy asus as its in the same price range. if u dont have that much budget , get galaxy / POV.
if u are willing to spend around 7.5k , i would recommend xfx 7900GS . but i think some other memebers here may disagree with me.you'll have to ask the opinions of others . but u can aswell forget getting a xfx 8600GT for 5k which has no heating issues.
zeest
03-02-2008, 07:01 PM
Ok. Thanks sagargv. I think u r right. I will buy some other card. I don't want the same thing that happened to u also happen to me as well. But i was insistin on XFX because i can get the replaced in my own city because the rashi office is nearby whereas the galaxy or other cards need to be replaced from other cities. Thats why. Anyways thanks.
yogi7272
03-02-2008, 07:02 PM
It is very expensive. I asked itwares guy. He says that asus en8600gt is at 7k. Please make it sure whats the correct model of the card. I think u r not sure.
galaxy 8600gt oc model is good too ..
nvidia
03-02-2008, 07:03 PM
Is galaxy a good brand? Is it reliable and what about the customer service?
yogi7272
03-02-2008, 08:02 PM
very good brand . i have used 8600gt oc model from galaxy .. came with cooler master heatsink installed .. performance was very good for a 8600gt ..also it overclocked very well upto 720/920 on core/ memory respectively ..
xfx is overpriced here in india.. also they dont put good heatsinks over their cards ..my 6600gt agp had a aluminum one whereas big gave a solid copper heatsink on 6600gt models ...
if ur looking for 8600gt i would go for galaxy ..no idea abt after sales service though.
also xfx is handled by rashi here in mumbai ..i have seen how these guys work at their ..really poor service ..
nvidia
03-02-2008, 08:04 PM
^^How much did you pay for your Galaxy 8600GT?
Harvik780
03-02-2008, 08:20 PM
Don't go for XFX 8600GT(s) as far as i have discussed with XFX technicians they say that models vary only by packaging.The XFX live and ticket help is pathetic but yet i often go there for suggestions to problems.My new 8800GT YDF7 isn't even listed there for registration.The guy told me that 8800GT plain models with different model no.s differ in packaging.Stay away from POV,chaintech,MSI.Currently the best brand for 8600GT available in India is Asus and Galaxy,there might be other which i don't not know.
Palit would have been very good if only tirupati imported their GFX cards.
sagargv
03-02-2008, 08:31 PM
Ok. Thanks sagargv. I think u r right. I will buy some other card. I don't want the same thing that happened to u also happen to me as well. But i was insistin on XFX because i can get the replaced in my own city because the rashi office is nearby whereas the galaxy or other cards need to be replaced from other cities. Thats why. Anyways thanks.
u r welcome . getting xfx coz u can get it easily replaced is not a good idea. chances are high that the replacement card also has overheating probs.
PS
Ah , u already have proof that galaxy 8600 is good.
dOm1naTOr
03-02-2008, 08:59 PM
@Harvik780 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=11637)
u can easily register XFX products by mailing to customer service nd theyll do it for u. Most of the odels coming to India are not listed there in registration pages.
Shloeb
03-02-2008, 09:49 PM
Is it wise to buy an 8 series card right now? As the 9 series cards are going to be released so i think there will be price cut in the prices of the cards. What do u think?
When will the 9 series cards will release? I know its Feb. But at the end of feb or at the mid?
xbonez
04-02-2008, 03:35 PM
maverick340 recently bought an MSI 8600GT for 5.1k from SMC intl....its fanless with a massive heatsink...i guess its one of the cheapest 8600GT gfx cards available....how's MSI's rep with the 8600GT?
nvidia
04-02-2008, 05:21 PM
^^Does it run cooler than 70C?
kalpik
04-02-2008, 07:19 PM
Yes it does run around 62-64 at max load.
nvidia
04-02-2008, 08:03 PM
Can i get my 8600GT replaced with a newer model which has no heating issues?
entrana
04-02-2008, 09:31 PM
you cant get it replaced buddy
nvidia
05-02-2008, 10:38 AM
^^I have XFX 8600GT provided by Rashi... Do i have to pay them extra for getting this replaced?
yogi7272
05-02-2008, 08:02 PM
@nvidia8800 - i paid 6.8k for 256mb one back in july .. no idea abt its latest price ? should be 5k or even less ..
nvidia
05-02-2008, 08:25 PM
^^I have 8600GT :|
Im asking if i have to pay anything extra to get it replaced...
entrana
05-02-2008, 09:33 PM
u cant get it replaced unless it breaks or smething which is covered in the warranty. then it can get replaced.whats wrong with ur version does it overheat? and if it breaks due to overheating im sure warranty covers that
nvidia
06-02-2008, 11:16 AM
^^Yeah... It runs at almost 82C under load sometimes..
I cant even Overclock at these temperatures... :(:(:(
harryneopotter
06-02-2008, 12:22 PM
Hi Guys .........
I have the following config ...
AMD X2 3600+
512 X 2 667 dual channel
zebby 8600 GT Stock
Asus M2NPV-VM
160 GB Sata II
I want to ask that at what settings i can play CRYSIS on my pc so that it wont lag ....
I play at 1024 x 768 (17" CRT) and want the best possible settings for eyecandy-performance.
Thanx in advance.
nvidia
06-02-2008, 12:24 PM
^^You can play the game at Medium Settings(if you are on Xp that is... )
harryneopotter
06-02-2008, 12:34 PM
^^You can play the game at Medium Settings(if you are on Xp that is... )
yes i am on xp .... but some one on this forum (named Jill Davis) is playing the game on high settings (1280 x 1024) with only shadows and postprocessing to low on his Pentium D, 1 gig, and 8600gt. and he told me to talk to you (i.e. nvidia8800) for playing it on high settings ...........????
nvidia
06-02-2008, 12:42 PM
You can play the game at high settings with Post-Processing and Shadows set to low..
Since you have a less powerful CPU, i think you wont get good FPS at this settings... I get just around 15-30FPS in Crysis with my AMD 6000+ processor... :)
harryneopotter
06-02-2008, 12:52 PM
hmmm correct me if i am wrong ... but i think CPU is nt a bottleneck at low resolution (like 1024 x 768) ..........?
nvidia
06-02-2008, 01:01 PM
I'm not sure about that.... Why dont you install the game and try it out?!
dOm1naTOr
06-02-2008, 06:31 PM
Yup, at full load, ie 1280*1024 on an 8600GT, the gpu is highly bottleneck. And install the driver which says has best performance in Crysis. Drivers do matter. And u can manually edit the config file to tweak the gfx for better performance.
nvidia
06-02-2008, 08:11 PM
^I think 169.09 is the best driver for Crysis.. Correct me if im wrong..
dOm1naTOr
06-02-2008, 08:16 PM
Yup, me too thinks its best....nd the info file also says that crysis performance increased.
And dun forget to install the 1.1 patch for Crysis.
Harvik780
06-02-2008, 08:44 PM
ahem...171.16
harryneopotter
06-02-2008, 09:35 PM
which driver version for 8600 gt 256 DDR3 for crysis ... as many drivers are optimised for 88XX series cards ......? and will 1.1 patch help on 8600 GT ? and will it replace the EXE file :D :D :D
PS .. currently i am using 163.2xxx sumthing.
Sunny1211993
06-02-2008, 09:50 PM
^^
first get the 169.09 driver.its excellent or the leaked 171.xx drivers!!
1.1 patch will definately help.
yes it does replace the exe file but the 'other exe' provided in the dvd will also work:D:D
nvidia
07-02-2008, 12:06 PM
^^:D:D:D
Will 1.1 patch increase performance?
entrana
08-02-2008, 09:03 PM
it shud increase performance just download it only 130mb
rollcage
09-02-2008, 06:08 AM
Is it wise to buy an 8 series card right now? As the 9 series cards are going to be released so i think there will be price cut in the prices of the cards. What do u think?
When will the 9 series cards will release? I know its Feb. But at the end of feb or at the mid?
nice thought .. anyone comfirm this,
as in it does make it cheaper if its true
Sunny1211993
09-02-2008, 11:40 AM
^^:D:D:D
Will 1.1 patch increase performance?
yeah it does:)
ankushkool
12-02-2008, 07:52 PM
what is de diff in performance in 8600gt and 8600gts???
which brand to go 4?
sagargv
12-02-2008, 08:03 PM
8600GTS is practically an OCed version of the GT .. not good vfm . .8600GT is better VFM...
nvidia
12-02-2008, 08:05 PM
If you have a high budget then 8800GT is a good card with very good VFM
ankushkool
12-02-2008, 08:24 PM
hav a budget of <8000, so goin 4 8600gt, Can u plez suggest which brand 2 go 4, i hav heard xfx has some probs!!!
nvidia
12-02-2008, 08:26 PM
Yes XFX has some heating issues in some older models... You can get the Asus 8600GT (I think its called EN8600GT) which has better cooling and is better if you want to OC your card...
ankushkool
12-02-2008, 08:38 PM
i dont plan 2 OC my graphics card. and will u plez help me with de cooling solution... will puttin more fans be enough??? i need help here as i hav no idea bout it :)
quadroplex780
12-02-2008, 08:48 PM
Guys do look at this-Single GPU better than Multi (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80177)
nvidia
12-02-2008, 08:50 PM
i dont plan 2 OC my graphics card. and will u plez help me with de cooling solution... will puttin more fans be enough??? i need help here as i hav no idea bout it :)
I think its better if you take ASUS. But if you want XFX, then make sure you take the model which has no heating issues. But the newer model is not available in India widely AFAIK.
Rollercoaster
12-02-2008, 09:11 PM
i bought the xfx8800gt 512mb vanilla on new year. no heating problems and u dont need any additional cooling solutions other then a 80mm fan in ur system.
and anyways now u can only get the newest alpha dog editions only which has a bigger fan then the older model. i ordered the older model but got the alpha dog edition. and in alpha dog edition the only difference is in the heatsink/fan design.
u can get it without worry.
zeest
12-02-2008, 09:36 PM
s it wise to buy an 8 series card right now? As the 9 series cards are going to be released so i think there will be price cut in the prices of the cards. What do u think?
When will the 9 series cards will release? I know its Feb. But at the end of feb or at the mid?
Does anybody know abt this?
ankushkool
12-02-2008, 09:46 PM
any other brand except for asus & xfx for 8600gt???
sagargv
12-02-2008, 09:56 PM
galaxy . avoid XFX only for 8600 . .for other models , xfx is the way to go.
rollcage
13-02-2008, 06:48 AM
Is it true that Galaxy-8600GT (256MB-DDR3) has a Coolmaster Heatsink & Fan? :rolleyes: Isnt this better in that case??
and
Which one of Asus available in Indian Market?
so many ASUS 8600GT http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=6&l3=514 :eek: :confused:
xbonez
13-02-2008, 08:33 AM
any other brand except for asus & xfx for 8600gt???
MSI 8600GT....fanless....just has a large heatsink and copper pipes....5.1k, SMC Intl. Delhi
ankushkool
13-02-2008, 09:12 AM
MSI 8600GT....fanless....just has a large heatsink and copper pipes....5.1k, SMC Intl. Delhi
does this provide better cooling than others (asus & galaxy)?
nvidia
13-02-2008, 12:34 PM
^^Asus provides the best cooling solution among 8600GT. But if can get one of the newer models of XFX without heating issues then you can buy that.
xbonez
13-02-2008, 02:21 PM
does this provide better cooling than others (asus & galaxy)?
since u won't be oc'ing (as u said). it provides more than enough cooling...even if u do decide to do a bit of oc'ing, it can handle it....no major oc'ing though
keith_j_snyder2
13-02-2008, 03:28 PM
Don't buy a fanless graphics card as they are not so good at cooling also fanless doesn't hold much for overclocking!
rollcage
13-02-2008, 06:38 PM
Is it true that Galaxy-8600GT (256MB-DDR3) has a Coolmaster Heatsink & Fan? :rolleyes: Isnt this better in that case??
and
Which one of Asus available in Indian Market?
so many ASUS 8600GT http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=6&l3=514 :eek: :confused:
????????
keith_j_snyder2
13-02-2008, 11:12 PM
Doesn't matter whether it is cooler master, Zalman, Thermaltake etc.
The thing that matters is material used. And if u see the Copper heatsink...it should be the best!
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