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Charan
10-08-2007, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the advice :) I will ask my friend to go with 8500GT.

The_Devil_Himself
11-08-2007, 01:52 PM
My question Is whether to go for 7600GT or 8600GT.My budget is around 11k from which i will be needing 3k for my RAM upgradation.But one thing is for sure I would like to play crysis even at low to medium settings.I am more inclined towards 7600GT cos every game in near future will be released in two formats one for DX9 and other for DX10 and 7600GT beats 8600Gt comfortably in current high end DX9 games.

One more question you guys talk a lot about overclocking but it voids your warranty as far as I know.It it true with both ATI and Nvidia or only Nvidia?
Any exceptions?And what about factory overclocked cards?

xbonez
11-08-2007, 02:12 PM
not sure about first question. i'd suggest 8600GT

yes overclocking voids warranty for all cards, ati and nvidia because it is really easy to overdo slightly and fry ur card.
as for factory overclocked cards, u get normal warranty as long as u don't tweak them any more. generally factory overclocked cards are locked so u can't oc anymore.

Third Eye
11-08-2007, 03:15 PM
My question Is whether to go for 7600GT or 8600GT.My budget is around 11k from which i will be needing 3k for my RAM upgradation.But one thing is for sure I would like to play crysis even at low to medium settings.I am more inclined towards 7600GT cos every game in near future will be released in two formats one for DX9 and other for DX10 and 7600GT beats 8600Gt comfortably in current high end DX9 games.

One more question you guys talk a lot about overclocking but it voids your warranty as far as I know.It it true with both ATI and Nvidia or only Nvidia?
Any exceptions?And what about factory overclocked cards?

Pick the 8600gt.

read reviews (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2975)

sagargv
11-08-2007, 05:16 PM
not sure about first question. i'd suggest 8600GT

yes overclocking voids warranty for all cards, ati and nvidia because it is really easy to overdo slightly and fry ur card.
as for factory overclocked cards, u get normal warranty as long as u don't tweak them any more. generally factory overclocked cards are locked so u can't oc anymore.

i dont think they can detect driver level OCing .

dr_jimit
11-08-2007, 07:29 PM
the 8800GTS [17k] version or GTX [38k]?

The price is double but is there a similar performance gap ?
Or GTS should be the good value for money?
what is approx price of 8800GTS 768 MB ?

I heard that current DX10 Geforce 8 series will not support next DX 10.1 [before actual games arrive :-( ]
so will 8500 GT 512MB 5.8k will be a good choice for mid to high end gaming in near future ?

DR. JIMIT VADGAMA

Ambar
11-08-2007, 07:51 PM
dude dx10 has just arrived...dont think about the future just now....neways..i think ur asking about the 8800gtx 768 mb......in india
MSI-34k
XFX-29k
BFG-36k
PALIT-26k
ZEBRONICS-around 28k
:D

sagargv
11-08-2007, 08:59 PM
well there are a lot of people feeling that even 8800GTX may not handle dx10 that well . but u cant think too much of the furture as there's always something new . .as far as gaming is concerned , 8800GTS has max VFM . .wat exactly is ur budget , if u badly want to run dx10 games in near future without shelling out too much money now , buy a cheaper card and then upgrade after a year when there are dx10 games and 9xxx series are in the market . .wat card do u own now ? first consider if u really need a upgrade and whether ur CPU is enough . . .

Ambar
11-08-2007, 10:19 PM
My question Is whether to go for 7600GT or 8600GT.My budget is around 11k from which i will be needing 3k for my RAM upgradation.But one thing is for sure I would like to play crysis even at low to medium settings.I am more inclined towards 7600GT cos every game in near future will be released in two formats one for DX9 and other for DX10 and 7600GT beats 8600Gt comfortably in current high end DX9 games.

One more question you guys talk a lot about overclocking but it voids your warranty as far as I know.It it true with both ATI and Nvidia or only Nvidia?
Any exceptions?And what about factory overclocked cards?
dude the better performance which the 8600gt is not able to deliver in dx9 games becoz..the drivers are not optimised(they are rlatively new)......same goes for dx10 games ......and ya any type of overclocling voids the warranty...unles its factory overclocked..:D

123asd
11-08-2007, 10:43 PM
ei guys cud any of u tell me the price of 8800gts 320mb in cal

sagargv
11-08-2007, 10:43 PM
hey , how can they know if we OCed (driver level) , if nothing is burnt ? i am asking coz i have a overheating xfx 8600GT which i will get replaced next month although i aint getting artifacts . i did OC for 2-3 minutes ( minimal , raised the core clock frm 540mhz to 560mhz and no changes to mem speed ) to see any temp variations and nothing hapennned (as high as it was), so i wanted to know if they'll say that they wont rma or replace my card for this reason.

Ambar
11-08-2007, 11:02 PM
boss id suggest tht u switch the clocks to the default settings...to be on the safer side and to make the oc detection harder.....:D

xbonez
12-08-2007, 12:31 AM
yeah, switch back clock speeds.

if anything is burnt, there's no chance of getting a replacement. they don't care how it got burnt - whether by oc'ing or due to a spike or surge.

sagargv
12-08-2007, 10:38 AM
yup , i OCed for 2-3 minutes and not more . i just wanted to see if temps reduce or something like that ( LOL , but i was willing to try anything ) and i have been running stock speeds for a month now .

Ambar
12-08-2007, 06:11 PM
roger tht...better get the card changed asap..:D

casual_gamer
12-08-2007, 06:27 PM
Hi guys, plz suggest me a grafix card for p3 800mhz, intel 815 motherboard, 448mb sdram. My budget is Rs.4000. I already have geforce4mx 440, i was thinking on the lines of Ati 9800pro or Ati 9700. are these cards still available? if so, what's the cost? I also don't want my cpu to become the bottleneck due to fast videocard. plz assume that i can upgrade only the grafix card at the moment. I just want to play some latest racing games in low settings like flatout2, nfs series, age of empires 3 etc...

sagargv
12-08-2007, 06:31 PM
geforce 6800XT ( theitwares quoted price as 3.4k which i doubt ) or the 7300GT . i think the CPU WILL become a big bottleneck , since its only racing games and least possible settings ur pc may pull thru . .

casual_gamer
12-08-2007, 06:35 PM
will check it out, thanks. what about those outdated Ati and nvidia cards like 9800pro and 5700ultra, are they still available for much cheaper prices?

Ambar
12-08-2007, 08:07 PM
will check it out, thanks. what about those outdated Ati and nvidia cards like 9800pro and 5700ultra, are they still available for much cheaper prices?
yup my friend wants to sell his asus 5700 ultra....must be selling fr bout 2k or smthing..tell me if ur intrested..

casual_gamer
12-08-2007, 08:27 PM
yup my friend wants to sell his asus 5700 ultra....must be selling fr bout 2k or smthing..tell me if ur intrested..
I am interested, but for a 4 year old 2nd hand card i can pay a maximum of Rs1100, coz u never know when the card will go bust.

sagargv
12-08-2007, 08:33 PM
roger tht...better get the card changed asap..:D
i really cant do it until sept coz its holidays till then and i simply cant go back to my onboard x200 . . i hope its OK to get it RMA'd then . and hey , does ^^(quote) mean that i can still RMA my card or replace it without them saying that they wont do it coz i OCed it ?

elator
12-08-2007, 09:19 PM
i wanna buy a new gc and was wonderin whether to go for 8600gt or 7600gt....which one is better??iam looking for better performance....

but iam a little confused too....
wat is bottleneck??will these graphic cards bottleneck my sys??
config-p4 3.2 ghz(prescott)
512 mb ddr333(will soon uprgrade to 1gb)
intel 915 gav chipset mb
...............???????????

sagargv
12-08-2007, 09:34 PM
get a 7900GS . between the two i'd pick 8600

vajm007
13-08-2007, 10:13 AM
Brand new Original EVGA 8600GT for Standard 256-P2-N751-TR =7450/-

Kalyan
13-08-2007, 12:35 PM
Hi guyz.. I have a pc with AMD 64X2 5600+(running at 2.8GHz), Asus M2NPV-VM mobo(nvidia 6150 onboard FYI), Transcend 1GB 800MHz RAM. I need a graphics card. I can shell out 5000-7000 for that. I dont need it right now. I could wait for even 2 months from now. What would be the best bet for this budget now or after 2 months?
I am now confused about the 7XXX series and 8XXX series. Which would be better? a high end 7XXX series or 8XXX series? To mention, I havent played most of the dx9 games yet. I could also go for the dx10 ones though.. But, Please help me decide which one I could go. in that budget or should I wait till the prices drop? I have also seen the post abt the dx10.1 making the dx10 cards obsolete. though I am not sure about it.

Thanks in advance..

rohan4pal
13-08-2007, 01:16 PM
@kalyan better go for 8xxx series.....

arun_chennai
13-08-2007, 02:00 PM
Hi guyz.. I have a pc with AMD 64X2 5600+(running at 2.8GHz), Asus M2NPV-VM mobo(nvidia 6150 onboard FYI), Transcend 1GB 800MHz RAM. I need a graphics card. I can shell out 5000-7000 for that. I dont need it right now. I could wait for even 2 months from now. What would be the best bet for this budget now or after 2 months?
I am now confused about the 7XXX series and 8XXX series. Which would be better? a high end 7XXX series or 8XXX series? To mention, I havent played most of the dx9 games yet. I could also go for the dx10 ones though.. But, Please help me decide which one I could go. in that budget or should I wait till the prices drop? I have also seen the post abt the dx10.1 making the dx10 cards obsolete. though I am not sure about it.

Thanks in advance..

dont worry about dx10.1 and get 8600GT for 6k~7k

Third Eye
13-08-2007, 02:03 PM
Hi guyz.. I have a pc with AMD 64X2 5600+(running at 2.8GHz), Asus M2NPV-VM mobo(nvidia 6150 onboard FYI), Transcend 1GB 800MHz RAM. I need a graphics card. I can shell out 5000-7000 for that. I dont need it right now. I could wait for even 2 months from now. What would be the best bet for this budget now or after 2 months?
I am now confused about the 7XXX series and 8XXX series. Which would be better? a high end 7XXX series or 8XXX series? To mention, I havent played most of the dx9 games yet. I could also go for the dx10 ones though.. But, Please help me decide which one I could go. in that budget or should I wait till the prices drop? I have also seen the post abt the dx10.1 making the dx10 cards obsolete. though I am not sure about it.

Thanks in advance..

Get a geforce 7900gs for now.Better than 8600gt and gts.

frogonfloor
13-08-2007, 05:53 PM
i guys i have
OS: Windows vista ultimate
Processor: Pentium d, 2.8GHz dualcore
RAM: ddr2 1.5 gb
Hard Drive: 160GB sata 1
Graphics Card: onboard ati radeno 200x 256 mb


it run mainly all games like carbon ,cnc3 tiberium wars.
but it do not run dirt plz suggest me a graphic card which can run all games like dirt test drive , and nfs prorat .
my buget is low rs 4000 .

thanks in advance

sagargv
13-08-2007, 06:21 PM
8500gt . .

xbonez
13-08-2007, 07:46 PM
either get the 8500gt (it may just overshoot ur budget)
or 7300gt

123asd
13-08-2007, 09:54 PM
he cud also try the new 8400 i think its near 4k

arun_chennai
14-08-2007, 08:52 AM
hey Tech Genius....7900GS is leaps and bounds better than 8600GT and it is even better than 8600GTS...but 8600GT is available for 6k and 7900GS is 9.5k....
as his budget is 5-7k i recommended him 8600GT....

frogonfloor
14-08-2007, 08:53 AM
AGP CARD


nVidia-FX 5200 128MB Rs.1550
nVidia-FX 5200 256MB Rs.2250
nVidia-FX 6200 128MB Rs.1550
nVidia-FX 6200 256MB Rs.2550
nVidia-FX 6600LE 256MB Rs.3000
nVidia-FX 6800XT 512MB Rs.3450
nVidia-FX 6800GS 512MB Rs.6150
nVidia-FX 7300GT 256MB Rs.4100
nVidia-FX 7300GT 512MB Rs.4550
LEADTEK QUADRO NVS 280 64MB Rs.7750
ATI-RADEON 9550 256MB Rs.2700


PCI E CARD


nVidia-5300 128 MB Rs.1800
nVidia-6200LE 256MB Rs.1850
nVidia-6200LE 512MB Rs.2350
nVidia-6500 256MB Rs.2400
nVidia-6600 256MB Rs.2700
nVidia-6800GE 256MB Rs.3300
nVidia-6800GT 256MB Rs.3850
nVidia-7100GS 256MB Rs.2350
nVidia-7200GS 128MB Rs.1800
nVidia-7200GS 256MB Rs.2350
nVidia-7300LE 512MB Rs.2500
nVidia-7300GS 512MB Rs.4500
nVidia-7300GT 256MB Rs.3700
nVidia-7300GT 512MB Rs.4500
nVidia-7600GS 256MB Rs.4400
nVidia-7600GS 512MB Rs.6050
nVidia-7600GT 256MB Rs.6200
nVidia-7900GS 256MB Rs.9000
nVidia-7900GS 512MB Rs.11100
nVidia-8500GT 256MB Rs.4375
nVidia-8500GT 512MB Rs.5750
nVidia-8600GT 256MB Rs.6500
nVidia-8600GT 512MB Rs.7900
nVidia-8600GTS 256MB Rs.11500
nVidia-8600GTS 512MB Rs.14000


these r new price list

arun_chennai
14-08-2007, 08:53 AM
i guys i have
OS: Windows vista ultimate
Processor: Pentium d, 2.8GHz dualcore
RAM: ddr2 1.5 gb
Hard Drive: 160GB sata 1
Graphics Card: onboard ati radeno 200x 256 mb


it run mainly all games like carbon ,cnc3 tiberium wars.
but it do not run dirt plz suggest me a graphic card which can run all games like dirt test drive , and nfs prorat .
my buget is low rs 4000 .

thanks in advance
for 4.3k get 8500Gt (Zebronics) or get 7600GS for the same price(better for games)....

frogonfloor
14-08-2007, 09:04 AM
i should buy 512 mb or 256 mb

xbonez
14-08-2007, 09:11 AM
since u're going for a low-end card, 256mb will be more than enough. lower end chipsets won't be able to utilize 512mb

frogonfloor
14-08-2007, 09:13 AM
btw that is Zebronics in 8500Gt (Zebronics)

rohan4pal
14-08-2007, 09:22 AM
@frogonfloor from where u got tht pricelist........its given tht 8600GT for 6.5k and yesterday whn i asked my enginner he told 7.3k :confused:

frogonfloor
14-08-2007, 09:27 AM
http://www.freewebs.com/abdulmustak/delhipricelist.htm


frm here i got pricelist for delhi

what is different between nvidia 8500 gt and 8500Gt (Zebronics)

rohan4pal
14-08-2007, 09:41 AM
hey there's not much difference............zebronics, leadtek, xfx, Big, MSI, etc r the companies who work for NVIDIA its all up 2 u which 1 u trust between these companies........so always think ask people and then buy we all are here to help u..........

xbonez
14-08-2007, 09:47 AM
^^not true man! there's a slight diff. for eg. companies like MSI, leadtek and zebronics make good gfx cards but companies like XFX and eVGA make superb cards. their cards are always slightly more expensive but that's coz they use better components and stuff which make them more resilient to oc'ing. as for BIG, i've heard a lot of negative feedback about them

Third Eye
14-08-2007, 09:53 AM
^^not true man! there's a slight diff. for eg. companies like MSI, leadtek and zebronics make good gfx cards but companies like XFX and eVGA make superb cards. their cards are always slightly more expensive but that's coz they use better components and stuff which make them more resilient to oc'ing. as for BIG, i've heard a lot of negative feedback about them

Absoultely correct,xfx and evga cards generally perfoms better.;)

rohan4pal
14-08-2007, 09:58 AM
yaa tht y i told 2 wait for the correct feed back......and i'm also going for XFX 8600GT coz they really give better performance

sagargv
14-08-2007, 10:42 AM
well frm wat i've heard palit , zebronics etc. . use chinese PCB which may break down after 1-2 yrs and they dont OC very well . but however zebronics if offering 3 yrs warranty so i think its safe , but i wud avoid palit . and xfx , evga , bfg ( only xfx has a good market in india ) make PCB and other components of higher quality ( thats wat i've heard ) and hence they last longer and OC better .
now i will be contradicting my own statement . most other guys in this forum having 8600GT frm other brands ( other than xfx ) have low temps and are happy , but my xfx 8600GT is overheating and now i am wishing i shud have bought the cheaper BIG 8600GT ( although i'm getting my g-card replaced next month ) . but beleive me , its not just me having this problem . although there are other members in this forum have their xfx 8600 working just fine , i've seen people having xfx 8500 and 8600 in other forums landing with the same problem( i've read the post of 4 dudes) . so its quite upto u . from reputation xfx wud be the choice , plus remember that xfx gives warranty even if u use a aftermarket cooler ( or something like that i read ) as long as nothing is burnt. .

Kalyan
14-08-2007, 11:05 AM
Hi there,, I just need to know one thing. Does the 8500 or 8600 cards run the dx 9 games better than or atleast same as that of 7900 or so. What is the difference between the 8 and 7 series? 8xxx are entry level and 7xxx series are in the ending level. Which would be the best bet in which condition? I hv posted my config before. anyway here it is: (amd 64x2 5600+ on Asus M2NPV-VM Transcend 1GB 800MHz RAM)

Third Eye
14-08-2007, 11:15 AM
Hi there,, I just need to know one thing. Does the 8500 or 8600 cards run the dx 9 games better than or atleast same as that of 7900 or so. What is the difference between the 8 and 7 series? 8xxx are entry level and 7xxx series are in the ending level. Which would be the best bet in which condition? I hv posted my config before. anyway here it is: (amd 64x2 5600+ on Asus M2NPV-VM Transcend 1GB 800MHz RAM)
7900gs/gt/gtx and all other 79 series cards performs better in Dx 9 games.8600gts is nearly equal to 7900gs but sometimes performs pathetic.Either choose 8600gts or 7900gs

sagargv
14-08-2007, 11:23 AM
http://www.freewebs.com/abdulmustak/delhipricelist.htm


frm here i got pricelist for delhi

what is different between nvidia 8500 gt and 8500Gt (Zebronics)

geforce8500GT is the chipset over which different manufacturers build g-cards. but however nVidia itself doesnt manufature g-cards , it manufactures chipsets which xfx , zebronics , evga , leadtek etc . . use to build g-cards . amd ( preveiosuly ati ) manufatures chipsets like x1900 , hd 2600XT etc.. saphire and other companies produces g-cards using these chipsets .but however AMD itself manufactures g-cards also using their own chipsets . .

Kalyan
14-08-2007, 11:29 AM
Would I benefit waiting one or two months? When would you expect the prices to come down? and still you keep me in dilemma.
Either choose 8600gts or 7900gs

123asd
14-08-2007, 11:29 AM
just checked price 8800gts 320mb costs 15500 wow man its that cheap
i also think the 8900 series is gonan come out in a few months since the specs are already out
theyre making this card to drool over, 8950gx2!!!!!!!! with 2 gig memory i think or maybe 1.5
and the 8800 series is gonna have a price drop, significantly
sources
http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDIA-Strikes-Back-With-New-GeForce-8900-Series-47233.shtml
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/237270-33-news-geforce-8900
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=129309
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37655
be happy

rohan4pal
14-08-2007, 11:32 AM
just checked price 8800gts 320mb costs 15500 wow man its that cheap
i also think the 8900 series is gonan come out in a few months since the specs are already out
theyre making this card to drool over, 8950gx2!!!!!!!! with 2 gig memory i think or maybe 1.5
and the 8800 series is gonna have a price drop, significantly

:shock: show me the link........

Third Eye
14-08-2007, 11:37 AM
Would I benefit waiting one or two months? When would you expect the prices to come down? and still you keep me in dilemma.

Waiting for pc hardware is not good because sooner or later your video card will become obsolete,but not so early:D.If you want good performance in dx 9 games,get a 7900gs(offcourse it performs well in dx 10 based games) as it is cheaper while comparing to 8600gts or stretch your budget to 15000 for the monster 8800gts320mb.:cool:

casual_gamer
14-08-2007, 12:56 PM
AGP CARD
nVidia-FX 6200 128MB Rs.1550

nVidia-FX 6600LE 256MB Rs.3000

nVidia-FX 6800XT 512MB Rs.3450

guys, out of these 3 cards plz suggest me a card for p3 800mhz, 484mb ram. My main requirement is to play racing games in low settings. From these 3 cards, i am looking forward to buying FX 6200 128mb, its cheap, so i am wondering if its a 64bit card?
If it is indeed 64bit, then i won't buy it. Are there any Ati 128bit cards within 2k range?

rohan4pal
14-08-2007, 01:18 PM
guys, out of these 3 cards plz suggest me a card for p3 800mhz, 484mb ram. My main requirement is to play racing games in low settings. From these 3 cards, i am looking forward to buying FX 6200 128mb, its cheap, so i am wondering if its a 64bit card?
If it is indeed 64bit, then i won't buy it. Are there any Ati 128bit cards within 2k range?
go for nVidia 6800XT 512MB but instead of 512mb go for 265mb coz ur ram is too low 512mb or better increase ur ram.......

Third Eye
14-08-2007, 01:24 PM
guys, out of these 3 cards plz suggest me a card for p3 800mhz, 484mb ram. My main requirement is to play racing games in low settings. From these 3 cards, i am looking forward to buying FX 6200 128mb, its cheap, so i am wondering if its a 64bit card?
If it is indeed 64bit, then i won't buy it. Are there any Ati 128bit cards within 2k range?

Your processor will seriously bottleneck the 6800XT coupled with RAM:rolleyes:.Get 6600LE,but you still won't get full performance.

dr_jimit
14-08-2007, 02:41 PM
Please anyone can tell me Where can I get

XFX
8800GTX
768MB

[not the ultra / XXX one, the Plain GTX]

at the " LOWEST PRICE" in Mumbai
with full warranty
[Not that cheap imported one with no warranty]

One dealer at Lamington Road gave me price of Rs. 34,320/-
[i haven't done any negotiation for price]

And please tell me if anyone knows if Zebronics Bijli cabinet will easily fit with this Huge card on Intel DG33BU motherboard?

Please help me,
Thank You,

Dr. Jimit

rohan4pal
14-08-2007, 03:02 PM
ok now whn dx10 games will release will support dx9 card......:confused:

sagargv
14-08-2007, 07:20 PM
yup . for atleast another 2 yrs . otherwie that game will have very limited customers .

phuchungbhutia
14-08-2007, 09:46 PM
wtb agp or pci express card ....
pl also give gcard info (name ,price ..if u know)................for .8v to 1.5v
for asus a8v mx mobo

p_d5010
15-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Hi,
There is a topic here for converting XFX 8600GT to 8600GTS:
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64927&highlight=8600gt

How much safe is it to do this thing? I am buying xfx 8600gt this week and think to do this, but at the same time scared to do so....coz i think 8600gt has resistors,capacitors etc etc. of one specific voltage range and temperature range. Overclocking this way may get them damaged(if my logic is right).
But at the same time I want to get better framerates than the original card gives.
So please tell me what should i do........waiting is also an option for me.
My budget for gfx card remains fixed at 8k. Want to play Lost planet and crysis on my 19"lcd at descent details.
Also, how much would my AMD 3000+ (939pin) bottleneck the card?

Harvik780
16-08-2007, 03:43 AM
Hi,
There is a topic here for converting XFX 8600GT to 8600GTS:
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64927&highlight=8600gt

How much safe is it to do this thing? I am buying xfx 8600gt this week and think to do this, but at the same time scared to do so....coz i think 8600gt has resistors,capacitors etc etc. of one specific voltage range and temperature range. Overclocking this way may get them damaged(if my logic is right).
But at the same time I want to get better framerates than the original card gives.
So please tell me what should i do........waiting is also an option for me.
My budget for gfx card remains fixed at 8k. Want to play Lost planet and crysis on my 19"lcd at descent details.
Also, how much would my AMD 3000+ (939pin) bottleneck the card?
One thing i can say for sure is that your processor will bottleneck the card at high resolutions beyond 1024*768.And the mod done on the XFX 8600 GT is only for experts and not the average person,least u might do anything wrong u would need a pci graphics card to reflash the bios of the card.The XFX 8600 GT uses good quality resistors and capacitors as XFX is a very good company/brand from pine international.

Pratyush
16-08-2007, 07:42 AM
does anyone know which site to refer for graphics card reviews?

sagargv
16-08-2007, 10:34 AM
try tomshardware.com , xbitlabs.com

p_d5010
16-08-2007, 03:02 PM
One thing i can say for sure is that your processor will bottleneck the card at high resolutions beyond 1024*768.And the mod done on the XFX 8600 GT is only for experts and not the average person,least u might do anything wrong u would need a pci graphics card to reflash the bios of the card.The XFX 8600 GT uses good quality resistors and capacitors as XFX is a very good company/brand from pine international.

Even if their quality is good, cant they be damaged if excess rating comes across it which is outside its normal range?

Stalker
16-08-2007, 11:03 PM
I've decided to get a 8800GTX...
Does the 8800GTX require 2 PCI-e power connectors??

well......initially i had decided to get the coolermaster extremepower 600W......but turns out, it has only 1 pci-e power connector.

Also i'm interested in the prices of Antec Trio 550W / 650W or the Corsair HX 620 in india...

thx

dr_jimit
17-08-2007, 10:46 AM
I've decided to get a 8800GTX...
Does the 8800GTX require 2 PCI-e power connectors??

well......initially i had decided to get the coolermaster extremepower 600W......but turns out, it has only 1 pci-e power connector.


Yes its true,
It needs 2 PCI-e connectors
as recommended by nVidia
Though it can run with 1, but will suffer performance losses,
I have a same problem as you,

i found few cooler master & Antec products, but they are too costly

COOLER MASTER Real power 850W = 15k
650 watts also there but dont know price

iGreen Power 600 W 8.5 k

Antec India Shops http://www.antecindia.com/new/where.htm

Antek trio 550w = 6745 +tax
650W = 8480+tax

Please anyone here suggest some cheaper ones with 2 PCI-E 6 pin connectors with atleast 500W supply,

All these new things are delaying my new PC,

Please anyone tell me where can i buy the cheapest XFX 8800GTX 768Mb with warranty in mumbai ?
Thanks,
Dr. Jimit

sagargv
17-08-2007, 11:13 AM
xfx 8800GTX lacks something which makes the need for a costlier psu . i dont remember very well . wait till some1 who knows tells u abt this.

entrana
17-08-2007, 04:25 PM
hey guys im getting a 8800gts 320mb does it also require 2 pcie pins or just one reply quickly guys or i might just buy the wrong psu

allwyndlima
17-08-2007, 06:31 PM
Real power 8500W = 15k
:shock:

xbonez
17-08-2007, 09:23 PM
has to be a typo. 8.5 kilowatt - i don't think it exists for home pcs

Harvik780
17-08-2007, 09:37 PM
hey guys im getting a 8800gts 320mb does it also require 2 pcie pins or just one reply quickly guys or i might just buy the wrong psu
Well i would like to warn u before u buy this card.It has a performance bug.According to this bug in all the cards of the 8800 series this card suffers the most.This bug makes the card run out of texture memory and hence the slowdown since it has only 320 mb of memory.My brother was going to buy directly from rashi peripherals but they were wise enough to warn us and make us go for the 640Mb version.Even if u buy this card make sure u do not turn the texture resolution to high/ultra.

And this card only requires one PCI express power connector.And requires a power supply of rating 26 AMP on the 12V rail.Recommended power supply of 600 watt with 83% efficiency.I recommend the coolermaster 600watt.

sagargv
17-08-2007, 10:31 PM
i think a fix will be released by sept . . and u can alt+tab out of the game to free ur texture mem. .but yes, there is a problem that has not been adressed by nvidia for a long time and many have even returned their 8800's i've read .

dOm1naTOr
17-08-2007, 11:43 PM
@dr_jimit
Zebronics Diamond series are SLI ready and has 2 6 pin PCIE connector.
Zebronics is the official partner on nvidia, and they make some of the world's most stable PSUs. Their Diamond series is as stable as Antec Neo or Corsair and a lil bit cheaper also.

CHIP once review their 730W PSU and they ran two high end card in SLI along with 4 HDD, 2 optical drives and max they cud have.
The 730W costs some 7~8k.

entrana
18-08-2007, 07:11 AM
ok guys so any idea how much 640mb costs in calcutta

Harvik780
18-08-2007, 07:48 AM
ok guys so any idea how much 640mb costs in calcutta
Will cost around Rs 24,400(from XFX) including tax.

dr_jimit
18-08-2007, 08:34 AM
has to be a typo. 8.5 kilowatt - i don't think it exists for home pcs

IAM EXTREMELY SORRY IT WAS A TYPING MISTAKE, Its 850 Watts only, for 15.7 k

And if it was 8500W then it would give definitely shock for any one who uses it, :-)

I have corrected it
It is shown on http://www.theitwares.com/coolermaster/coolermaster.htm

and thanks Harvik780 ,
I found CM extreme Power 600 watts cheapest with 2 pcie connector.

BTW

2 X 8800 GTS 320MB in SLI > single 8800 GTX 768MB ??? or similar ? or worse ?

I found sone links


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/238917-33-advice-8800-8800
http://www.hwupgrade.com/articles/video/13/the-nvidia-geforce-8800-gtx-and-gts-in-sli_index.html
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2082196
http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=5526
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=335&type=expert&pid=6

Very interesting topic,

please see and Your comment....

xbonez
18-08-2007, 11:32 AM
2 X 8800 GTS 320MB in SLI > single 8800 GTX 768MB ??? or similar ? or worse ?

i'd say worse

entrana
18-08-2007, 04:27 PM
ok ok so i think its smarter to buy the 640mb as long as my dad will buy for me thanks for the heads up or i could have got the wrong stuff

sagargv
18-08-2007, 04:53 PM
dont worry , a fix will arrive for it in sept (tats wat i read ) , so go4 320mb if u're short on budget . if u can go4 640mb well and good. BTW , thats a gud reason to ask ur dad to get u the 640mb edition..if u're going to use this card for 2yrs , then buy a cheaper 7900GS and keep an eye on the g92 .. if u intend to upgrade sooner , then good and go4 8800.

entrana
18-08-2007, 10:12 PM
umm ok now everyone is scaring the hell outta me some tell me to buy tihs or that and stuff im planning on getting vista ultimate guys so i think i shud go for 8800

regenade
19-08-2007, 04:48 PM
saw a real good deal on a 8600GT today on the net...Zebby 8600GT for just 6k :)
Here is the link
http://xtremegx.com/store/zebronics-8600gt-256mb-p-172.html

sachin_kothari
19-08-2007, 05:14 PM
what the difference between a normal 8600gt card and a fatality 8600gt card?
which one is better?

mayanks_098
19-08-2007, 05:26 PM
i guess fatality one is optimized for gaming after the xtreme gamer ka FATALITy...may be better clock speed and all.

and fatality is better if you can spare a few more bucks.

sachin_kothari
19-08-2007, 09:31 PM
^^^ i heard that the rate difference fatality and the normal one is very less.

sagargv
19-08-2007, 10:22 PM
i think its quite large . fatality is an OCed version of regular 8600GT and is passive cooled. have a roomy cabinet with lots of fans if u wanna buy that . last time i checked fatality was @ 10k ( sorry this was a month ago ) . at this price u can go4 7900GS ( 9k , so its ok assuming that 8600 fatality price dropped by 1k ) . 7900GS will be a far better performer .

bL4zE
21-08-2007, 01:25 PM
da main difference is dat u CANNOT OC fatality 8600 !!! even if u were able its speeds may increase by only 20-30 MHz :| coz it comes factory OC n OCing it further gives artifacts but buy a XFX 8600 GT n u can OC it like nething
me havin XFX 8600 GT n wooohuuuuu its superb i have OC it to 705/1750 from its default 540/1400 :D

da only problem is heating :( n dat 2 i have solved by adding vantec cooler card !!! so now no worries \m/

p_d5010
21-08-2007, 03:15 PM
^ ^ hey how much did you get that cooler for? and where did u get it?

entrana
21-08-2007, 05:28 PM
ya
also is there cooler for 8800gts

bL4zE
21-08-2007, 06:06 PM
hello its a cooler card with 2 fans on it one is a blower n other is $ucker it circulates da cool air frm outside vertically inside.it occupies a " PCI " slot of ur mobo depending on wat u have to cool , if u wanna cool da gfx den simply push it into a slot just below ur gfx n yes it works on MOLEX power conenctors same as ur hdd 1.:)

i got it frm Laminghton Road in bombay , its for Rs.1350 n believe me it works superb if u have enuff space around ur cabinet. :)
n yes there are others dat have to be installed directly on ur gfx by removing da default fan n heatsink , thus VOIDING THE WARRANTY :| :(
so i choosed this 1 :)

link for all coolers :- http://www.comparateur.in/prix/138074/index_filter-315.1761.html

my images link :-
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/th_XFX8600GT.jpg (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/XFX8600GT.jpg)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/th_datsdavgacoolerdablueonesomeeyecand.jpg (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/datsdavgacoolerdablueonesomeeyecand.jpg)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/th_vgacoolerfrmanotherangle.jpg (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/vgacoolerfrmanotherangle.jpg)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/th_VantecVGACoolerfancard.jpg (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd210/Surag/VantecVGACoolerfancard.jpg)

chicha
21-08-2007, 07:01 PM
few months back i got a 6200 256.
now looking for a better one.
I went through couple of cards.
1. 8400GS
2. X1600 PRO
what do you suggest?
my budget is arround 5-6.

reason
i play lot of games, and should be able to play HD content with EASE.
thank you in advance

X-300 Hawk
21-08-2007, 07:41 PM
one guy is asking me to get the 5700 and other one not to get it
cmon guys
plz hurry
any brands from Radeon???

Get Nvidia GeForce 7800.
Nvidia and Raedon are the best.:) :)

bL4zE
21-08-2007, 10:51 PM
few months back i got a 6200 256.
now looking for a better one.
I went through couple of cards.
1. 8400GS
2. X1600 PRO
what do you suggest?
my budget is arround 5-6.

reason
i play lot of games, and should be able to play HD content with EASE.
thank you in advance
neither of these will help u coz 8400GS is crap never go for GS series unless budget is a BIG problem coz these are low perfo cards :( 8400 GS perfo can b rated in terms as 6800 perfo :|
go for 7900 GT if u dont want DX10 card otherwise 8600GT roxxxxx \m/
ati cards are gd but perfo is cippled coz of buggy drivers :(

dOm1naTOr
22-08-2007, 12:10 AM
@chicha
Both cards are of different price tags. 8400GS is at 3k and 1600pro is at 5k.
I wud suggest u get an 8600GT for 6.5k or at least an 8500GT for 5.3k.
Hope u have a gud proccy and ample amout of ram.

ankushkool
22-08-2007, 01:33 AM
i wanna buy a mid range PC... sud i go4 7600 or spend some more n get 8600???

mayanks_098
22-08-2007, 01:47 AM
i wanna buy a mid range PC... sud i go4 7600 or spend some more n get 8600???


ofcourse 8600gt

dOm1naTOr
22-08-2007, 01:56 AM
@ankushkool
better get 8600GT coz its more future proof. Its expensive than 7600GT, but al least it wud let us play more future games even if perfomance is not dat gr8 compared to 7600GT.

chicha
22-08-2007, 07:28 AM
@chicha
Both cards are of different price tags. 8400GS is at 3k and 1600pro is at 5k.
I wud suggest u get an 8600GT for 6.5k or at least an 8500GT for 5.3k.
Hope u have a gud proccy and ample amout of ram.
did not mention some imp things.
First i have AGP slot.
AMD AM2 3000+
2*512

arun_chennai
22-08-2007, 08:55 AM
did not mention some imp things.
First i have AGP slot.
AMD AM2 3000+
2*512

for AGP Slots the best card u cound get for 6k is 7600GT..it may be priced higher....

dOm1naTOr
22-08-2007, 10:44 AM
@chicha

there are no AM2 mobos with AGP slots around. It shud be PCIE.
And even if u get an 8600GT, den also ur proccy wud be a bottleneck. SO waste of money to go for such cards.

Check if its AGP or PCIE.

sagargv
22-08-2007, 10:58 AM
^ but that doesnt mean that both 8500 nd 8600 perform on same level on his system . so better of with 8600 if pcie or 7600 if agp.

chicha
22-08-2007, 04:27 PM
@chicha

there are no AM2 mobos with AGP slots around. It shud be PCIE.
And even if u get an 8600GT, den also ur proccy wud be a bottleneck. SO waste of money to go for such cards.

Check if its AGP or PCIE.

Dude i am using An AGP card as we speek. my mobo is MSI K9MM-V.

entrana
25-08-2007, 06:04 PM
guys what shud i get xfx geforce 7950gt or 8800gts

Third Eye
25-08-2007, 06:06 PM
8800gts

entrana
25-08-2007, 06:50 PM
r u sure because i hear 8800 series have bugs

dOm1naTOr
25-08-2007, 08:46 PM
but then again its better than 7950GT

entrana
25-08-2007, 10:06 PM
ooooooo ok

keith_j_snyder2
26-08-2007, 04:47 PM
What!!!
I don't think u guys need to ask a comparison between 8800 GTS and 7950 GT, well obviously the 8800 GTS rules!!!

dOm1naTOr
26-08-2007, 05:30 PM
@entrana
sorry, i mistook for 8600GTS...

but why r u comparing 7950 nd 8800? The price difference is very much.
the comparison shud be b/w 7900 or 7950 vs 8600GTS

entrana
26-08-2007, 10:14 PM
no cuz u know i thought that it cud have been better anyways they say i shudnt get the 320mb of the gts because its buggy but i cant afford the 640mb one either what shud i do thats why i brought up the question to ask about 7950 or maybe even 7950gx2

im getting 7950gx2 guys is it good?
how many pcie pins?

EDIT: i take back my words 8800gts kicks a** so i changed my mind sorry everyone

Third Eye
26-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Huh! it's not good if you can afford 8800gts 320mb.Do you play at high resolution.8800gts is good if you want to play at 1280#1024 resolution with maximum settings.No point in buying a 7959gx2 today.Soon nvidia will fix vram bug.see this review

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/3688156

dOm1naTOr
27-08-2007, 12:43 AM
@entrana
7950GX2 has heating issues. The GPU which is sandwitched b/w the PCBs heats up quickly and the cards tends to become unstable even at stoch clocks.

A 7950GT wud be better even if it dun perform like 7950GX2.

Orelse get the 8800gts 320. Heard inmany forums dat nvidia will soon fix the bug(texture mem bug) with a gud driver. So in that case 8800GTS 320 is better than 7950GT nd GTX in any way...and the 8800GTS will be more stable in temperature aspect also compared to 7950GX2.

entrana
27-08-2007, 07:04 AM
ok so 8800gts 320mb it is actually i need to play ALL games at 1024x768 only but since this supports 1280x1024 cool
i also need to play in 1360x768 for my lcd

dOm1naTOr
27-08-2007, 08:18 AM
@entrana
sure u can do it...on 1360*768

what Tech Genius wanna say was due to the mem mangement bug, the card can't handle some games with heavy texture at ultra high resolutions like 1600*1200 and above.

Sinece 1360*768 is not a very high resolution the card can handle every game at dat res @ max detail.

entrana
27-08-2007, 02:31 PM
o then i need not be tense i shall get that besides my screen cant support more than 1280x1024 and 1360x768 anyways

hash!!
27-08-2007, 11:47 PM
ummm... theres a lot goin on about the 8800gts 320mb... i hope its worth the hype, really...
im planning to go for it, first off, should i buy an asus or an msi?
secondly, what power psu should be good enough to hold this card, and what are the consequences of using a low power psu with this card?
lastly... and the dumbest question of em all... should i even go for it at all?
lolz

BULLZI
27-08-2007, 11:56 PM
why not xfx or evga??they are better.
bt u ll need a really good psu.i ll suggest at least zebonics platinum 500 watt or better to have coolermaster extreme 600 watt.

when is 9800 GTX coming out??i got some price quotes(assumption) of it being priced abt $700.

entrana
28-08-2007, 07:01 AM
xfx is stil the best but expensive too
dont even think about getting asus its ridiculously overpriced

hash!!
28-08-2007, 02:35 PM
hmmm... weird you say that...
1. asus
2. leadtek
3. zotac
4. evga
5. msi (NX8800GTS-T2D320E (GeForce 8800GTS) 320MB GDDR3)
6. xfx
7. msi (NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC (GeForce 8800GTS Overclocked) 320MB GDDR3) (Dual-link DVI connectors - SLI bridge - TV-out + HDTV support)
8. innovision
9. evga

thats the set of manufacturer cards i got as options... and they're in increasing order of prices... ie, asus is the cheapest, and well, evga is the most expensive of the lot...
most of em didnt have descriptions... and msi did... but arent those features gonna be common to all?
this is actually confusing...
oh.. and wouldnt a cooler master true power/ antec / acbel 400-450w psu help?
also, what happens if i hook up the card to a low power psu??
and im gettin the psu from singapore... there wont be any problem in that, would there? i cant be bothered about the warranty/guarantee.. i can send it back and stuff... so apart from that, would gettin the psu from singapore make a difference?

Third Eye
28-08-2007, 02:52 PM
Evga come with lifetime warrenty.Also make sure the PSU is rated one,500W is enough for 8800gts 320mb.

BULLZI
28-08-2007, 02:54 PM
$hash

dont know where u live.bt when u can get a decent psu here in India,why are u so much interested having it from Singapore??!!
cooler master true power will serve the purpose for you bt then if u upgrade ur computer in the future,400 watt psus wont let u do that.
if u use a low power psu with ur 8800,then the psu will blow,thts for sure.
before blowing,ur cabby will be abnormally heated.so better be in the safe side before regretting:).

hash!!
28-08-2007, 04:01 PM
$hash

dont know where u live.bt when u can get a decent psu here in India,why are u so much interested having it from Singapore??!!
cooler master true power will serve the purpose for you bt then if u upgrade ur computer in the future,400 watt psus wont let u do that.
if u use a low power psu with ur 8800,then the psu will blow,thts for sure.
before blowing,ur cabby will be abnormally heated.so better be in the safe side before regretting:).

hehh.. dude, im from delhi alright... but all over nehru place, you get different quotes for the same darn thing... and anyway, im gettin stuff at good rates there... so thats why... agreed, we get everythn here, but its a tad cheaper there...
so a 400-450w true power would be good enough? and would keep my rig safe, right?
or what if i get any (as in no specific brand) 500-700w psu?

BULLZI
28-08-2007, 04:41 PM
yup u ll be in safe side with branded ones,though(coolermaster,corsair,antec).
make it at least 500 watt.
u dont need 700watt unless u wish to hv a couple of 8800gtxs or ultras in SLI:).

entrana
28-08-2007, 04:58 PM
hey guys im getting cooler master 600wats wurth 4k
does it have 1 pcie connector?

hash!!
28-08-2007, 08:05 PM
u dont need 700watt unless u wish to hv a couple of 8800gtxs or ultras in SLI:).
hahahaa... mate, thats waaaayyyy outta my league... as it is, im tryin to figure out how im gonna sneak in another couple of grand for the darn psu, after spendin all that much on the gts... lolz...
oh... lastly... is there anythn specific i should look out for while selecting the psu, other than the wattage and brand? like pins? or connectors, or pcie connectors? i really have no idea whatsoever about those...

sagargv
28-08-2007, 08:40 PM
amps on the 12 volt rail . if u're taking 8800GTX look for a psu with 2 connectors for it . if not one is enough . take one with alteast 30A if u're going for 8800GTS.

BULLZI
29-08-2007, 12:27 PM
hahahaa... mate, thats waaaayyyy outta my league... as it is, im tryin to figure out how im gonna sneak in another couple of grand for the darn psu, after spendin all that much on the gts... lolz...
oh... lastly... is there anythn specific i should look out for while selecting the psu, other than the wattage and brand? like pins? or connectors, or pcie connectors? i really have no idea whatsoever about those...

yes mate,u will have to have 30 A on 12 Volt rails if you are going for 8800 series or higher that will soon come out.

if you get a 7 series one,it only has 4 pin connector so no need to worry about pins bt 8800 uses 6 pin connectors also u will hv to hv a spacy cabinet.

entrana
29-08-2007, 03:04 PM
ok 1 more thing guys since ur saying 8800 series use 6pins
coolermaster 600watts has only 4 pins so i have to get a better smps
is this true?

BULLZI
29-08-2007, 03:12 PM
u will need a 6 pin pci express connector for 8800.

entrana
29-08-2007, 05:19 PM
so that means id have to go for the 7.2k smps right

Harvik780
29-08-2007, 05:42 PM
so that means id have to go for the 7.2k smps right
The 8800GTS requires 1 Pci-express power connector(6 pin)where as the 8800GTX requires 2 Pci-express power connectors.The cooler master 600watt's true rating is somewhere around 560watt and it has only one Pci-express power connector.Never compromise,tell your dad that if we try to save money we might not get the recommended products.If you are buying an 8800GTS go for the Corsair HX620W(can support upto 2 8800GTX in SLI by the use of molex to pci-express power connector,a total of four are required for 8800GTX SLI).I have no experience with coller master 600w.If ur going for cooler master u better google for user experiences to see ifs stable enough.

entrana
29-08-2007, 06:32 PM
so corsair hx620watts has four pci-e connectors with 6pins each? wow ill definitely get this
thanks harvy again so i guess no choice

Harvik780
29-08-2007, 07:06 PM
so corsair hx620watts has four pci-e connectors with 6pins each? wow ill definitely get this
thanks harvy again so i guess no choice
No,HX620watt has 2 pci express power connectors and u can add 2 molex to pci express power connectors to set up SLI with 8800GTX.Don't worry the power provided is more than enough.

entrana
29-08-2007, 09:03 PM
ooooooooooooooooooooooook thx,umm again
just one more things whats a molex
and never in the future wud i be able to afford a gtx for me even a gts 320mb is costly and thats the max im gettin maybe id even have to downgrade to 8600gt
one more thing i have this proview amrex ups cant fnd on the net i wonder if this supports the 620watts psu or not ill post its specs as written at the back
model number: proview 600
220-240v,50-60hz i.e. input and output , and thats pretty much all

Harvik780
29-08-2007, 09:05 PM
ooooooooooooooooooooooook thx,umm again
just one more things whats a molex
The connector which connects to power harddrive.

entrana
30-08-2007, 06:01 AM
so that means i can connect a molex to pcie?

sagargv
30-08-2007, 09:15 AM
u attach a converter to the molex and put the other end of the converter ( which is now acting like a pcie 4 pin / 6 pin power supplier ) to the g-card.

entrana
30-08-2007, 02:29 PM
o ok thanks
so i planned on buying a 8800gts320mb
and ya in sli mode u can use any 2 graphics cards right or does it have to be the two exactly same replica of the card

BULLZI
30-08-2007, 02:52 PM
@harvik

i hv corsair 620 watt.it has ,indeed,2 pci-e connectors but my 7900 gt only requires 4 pin molex.so i cant fit the gfx power supply in the required port of the psu and already am getting warnings that my gfx card isnt receiving enough power.wht shud i do now??
pci-e to molex converters available in tha market??

Harvik780
30-08-2007, 03:53 PM
@harvik

i hv corsair 620 watt.it has ,indeed,2 pci-e connectors but my 7900 gt only requires 4 pin molex.so i cant fit the gfx power supply in the required port of the psu and already am getting warnings that my gfx card isnt receiving enough power.wht shud i do now??
pci-e to molex converters available in tha market??
I think the XFX Geforce 7900GT has a 6pin pci-express power inlet.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/996/clipboard01on0.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard01on0.jpg)

The HX620Watt has tow 6 Pin Pci-express power connectors.Just connect one to the crad.Are u saying that by connecting the pci-express connector ur getting the warning.U can always connect the molex to pci-express connectors that came with ur card to see if the warning is removed.I have heard that many people are getting these warnings with the 6 pin power connector.Actually the molex to pci-express power connectors are provided for old power supplies which don't have the required 6 pin pci-express connector.Have u tested ur crad with 3d mark,if it provides with accurate results,those posted on the net,then u don't need to worry about the warning.The HX620W has a total amperage of 50Amp and real power of 600watt on the 12V rails required by the card,so connecting the 6 pin power connector to the crad shouldn't cause any problems.

hash!!
30-08-2007, 04:09 PM
damn... why cant they make things simpler... now that i've read all this jargon here, im like "to buy, or not to buy, that is the question"
ughhh... that means if i go for an 8800gts 320mb, i'l hvta spend on a decent psu as well... which will cost me an upwards of 3k... damnnn...
what if the psu doesnt have a 6pin connector? i can get the converter from nehru place or sumthn naa?
and will my card actually burn out or blow up if the psu doesnt give it enough power? cause that sounds a tad far fetched... cause if sumthn doesnt get enough power, it doesnt work...?
gaaah... help me out someone... gimme a budget psu which would be alright to run the darn card safely... cause i'd hate to go in for a 7950gt while the 8 series is riding high... :(

Harvik780
30-08-2007, 04:18 PM
damn... why cant they make things simpler... now that i've read all this jargon here, im like "to buy, or not to buy, that is the question"
ughhh... that means if i go for an 8800gts 320mb, i'l hvta spend on a decent psu as well... which will cost me an upwards of 3k... damnnn...
what if the psu doesnt have a 6pin connector? i can get the converter from nehru place or sumthn naa?
and will my card actually burn out or blow up if the psu doesnt give it enough power? cause that sounds a tad far fetched... cause if sumthn doesnt get enough power, it doesnt work...?
gaaah... help me out someone... gimme a budget psu which would be alright to run the darn card safely... cause i'd hate to go in for a 7950gt while the 8 series is riding high... :(
Cooler master 600watt(real watt 560).Has one 6 pin pci-express power connector.Should be suffice ur needs.

BULLZI
30-08-2007, 04:24 PM
i will post my 3d mark results by this weekend.bt my card doesnt look like the one there in your pic.i will try to post a pic too.
no converter from pci-e to molex came with the card.are these converters available in the market individually??

@ hash

coolermaster will be more than enough for ut system,thts for sure:).

entrana
30-08-2007, 05:55 PM
@harvy in the website of coolermaster i think it says its 4 pin not 6pin
could u elaborate which model by going to the cooler master site properly

Harvik780
30-08-2007, 08:24 PM
@harvy in the website of coolermaster i think it says its 4 pin not 6pin
could u elaborate which model by going to the cooler master site properly
The cooler master 600w is an ATX 20+4 pin(24 pin for ATX and 20 pin for micro ATX)power supply u can detach the 4 pins if u want to connect it to a micro ATX power supply.I think it was the detachable 4 pins u were talking about.To confirm that it has a 1 pci-express 6 pin power connector follow this link-
http://hi-techreviews.com/reviews_2006/CMPSU/P1.htm

This power supply is not modular.That means u cannot disconnect the wires u don't need.Check out the full review from the above link.

entrana
30-08-2007, 08:27 PM
ooo ok ya totally iread 20+4 pins thanks for the heads up anyways
but i dont think anytime in the future ill swich to SLI because it has issues beside this single gts would last me 3 years

Harvik780
30-08-2007, 08:28 PM
no converter from pci-e to molex came with the card.are these converters available in the market individually??
Yes they exist and u can buy them individually.Check them here-

http://www.atxpowersupplies.com/Molex-to-PCI-Express-Adapter.htm

and here

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=46857&doy=30m8&C=SO&U=strat15

entrana
30-08-2007, 08:51 PM
hmm harvy whats the best overclockable asus mobo with dual channel ddr2 support and all features of p5ne-sli under 7-8k
p.s. i DONT NEED SLI

Harvik780
30-08-2007, 09:02 PM
hmm harvy whats the best overclockable asus mobo with dual channel ddr2 support and all features of p5ne-sli under 7-8k
p.s. i DONT NEED SLI
Asus does not have any motherboards based on the 650i ultra chipset(its non sli).But XFX has one-
http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa;jsessionid=a5RDe4X0cJi66OR x3s?series=NVIDIA+nForce+650i&seriesId=989307&productId=989811

It should be a good overclocker and will be under ur budget.I think it costs R6.5K.

entrana
30-08-2007, 10:43 PM
i believe the features are the same as asus p5ne sli just without the sli right?

woops slash that this is the graphics cards thread sorry
anyways decided to go for asus cuz its better

p_d5010
30-08-2007, 11:13 PM
Can Bioshock run at 1280x800 resolution with all settings cranked up to high in DX10 mode on 8600gt?

Harvik780
31-08-2007, 12:55 AM
Can Bioshock run at 1280x800 resolution with all settings cranked up to high in DX10 mode on 8600gt?
@Tech_Genius told me that his 8600Gt gave him 27-30 FPS at 1024*768.But i think his processor(P4 3.0Ghz)bottlenecked the video crad.I have an 8800GTS 640MB and it gives 40 FPS average on 1600*1200 with everything maxed out.

entrana
31-08-2007, 06:13 AM
hey harvy i too have a p4 ht 3.06 ghz im not sure if i would change it
would it too bottleneck the card
and + i just need the resolution of 1280x1024
and ya id get 8800gts 320mb

deathvirus_me
31-08-2007, 09:33 AM
^^ I'd be nice if u could oc that CPU .. my friend has P4 HT 3.0 GHz oc'ed to 3.6 GHz and it reduces the bottleneck by quite a bit .. even with a 7900GTX ...

BULLZI
31-08-2007, 09:50 AM
Yes they exist and u can buy them individually.Check them here-

http://www.atxpowersupplies.com/Molex-to-PCI-Express-Adapter.htm

and here

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=46857&doy=30m8&C=SO&U=strat15

i checked out the sites.nice info.thnx a lot.:).bt the problem is still there.
there are two pci-e ports in corsair hx 620 watt,all 6 pins.now,with that converter,it converts two molex connectors to 1 pci-e.it means,the psus those do not have a 6 pin pci-e port can power the pci-e gfx card via addition of two molex ports in the psu,am i rite?
bt my card has only 4 pins that requires a molex connector.
so if i connect the 6 pin pci-e connector to psu and one of the molexes in my gfx card,i am not sure my purpose will be served or not:confused: :confused:

entrana
31-08-2007, 02:41 PM
guys how to overclock a p4, witihin the safe limits i mean software overclock i dont want any damage and how to check temeperature of my p4

quan chi
31-08-2007, 04:01 PM
well how much memory does 7900gt has?

entrana
31-08-2007, 04:27 PM
256/512mb i think

srinivasaraor
31-08-2007, 04:32 PM
I am having problem with my 19 inch (viewsonic VA1903wm)widescreen LCD. I know the native resolution should be 1440*900. But I can't see it in the list, any suggestions ? thanks in advance

integrated graphic driver on intel original essential series desktop board D945Gcl mother board..................i have tried with all updated drivers for that resolution but resolution not came.but some times the sys automatically set to 1440*900 resolution.at that time i could able to see all 1440*900 resolution list.....
mother board details are:

micro ATX form factor
supports 1066/800/533mHZ sys bus
processor:intel(R)pentium(R)cpu 3.00GHz


support ddr2 667/533 sdram memory

intel graphic media accelarator 950

PCI express*x16 graphic connector
intel high defination audio
support intel em64t
microsoft windows vista ready

Harvik780
31-08-2007, 07:44 PM
i checked out the sites.nice info.thnx a lot.:).bt the problem is still there.
there are two pci-e ports in corsair hx 620 watt,all 6 pins.now,with that converter,it converts two molex connectors to 1 pci-e.it means,the psus those do not have a 6 pin pci-e port can power the pci-e gfx card via addition of two molex ports in the psu,am i rite?
bt my card has only 4 pins that requires a molex connector.
so if i connect the 6 pin pci-e connector to psu and one of the molexes in my gfx card,i am not sure my purpose will be served or not:confused: :confused:
Sorry for the wrong reply,i didn't pay attention.Have u tried connecting the psu's molex connector to the video card.Do it,it won't harm the video card and check if low power warning is received.

I think ur card is somewhat like this 7900GT from gigabyte.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2368/fullgb7900gtwj7.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fullgb7900gtwj7.jpg)

This is a 7900GT which requires a molex connector.

guys how to overclock a p4, witihin the safe limits i mean software overclock i dont want any damage and how to check temeperature of my p4
Well pentium 4 is unstable when u increase the FSB.U'll have to increase the multiplier to get a higher clock.Also u'll have to do it through bios.The FSB is the real clock of the processor and the multiplier is the number of instructions that can be processed per clock cycle.So if ur processor has a multiplier of 9 then ur processor FSB or real speed is 333.333Mhz(FSB*Multipler=Theoretical clock,9*333.33=3.0Ghz).Ur new mobo will support extensive overclocking.Be careful though.

hash!!
31-08-2007, 07:56 PM
I am having problem with my 19 inch (viewsonic VA1903wm)widescreen LCD. I know the native resolution should be 1440*900. But I can't see it in the list, any suggestions ? thanks in advance


right click on your desktop, go to properties, select the Settings tab, click on the "Advanced" button, now the monitor and display adaptor properties will open up in a new dialog... click on the Monitor tab, and untick "Hide Modes that my monitor cannot display"
that'd open a whole lotta resolutions...

entrana
31-08-2007, 10:09 PM
umm harvy so ur suggesting that i not overclock, right
anyways one more question i have this ati radeon xpress 200 onboard
it has 256mb of memory and i shared 256 more to make it 512mb of texture memory so whats better
1gb+256 video
or
768mb+512mb video

p_d5010
31-08-2007, 10:29 PM
hey yesterday my friend bought 8600gt and has 2.6ghz single core p4 processor........the card 8600gt give roughly 20 fps on high settings with shadows on medium and textures on medium........really disappointing score :|
Hope it runs well on my amd 3000+

dOm1naTOr
31-08-2007, 11:54 PM
@entrana
setting 512MB for onboard GFX is of no gud. Seting it at 128 MB is da best as 256 Mb wont be used as the bottleneck is da GPU and not the video memory.

entrana
01-09-2007, 07:12 AM
i see, but i think it does help with some framerates as it has more texture memory

ya 1 more thing dya guys know how to use ddr2 ram as memory for gfx
like im getting 320mb 8800gts, and i want to 512 in it to make it better
how is there an option or something, wud it help?

Harvik780
01-09-2007, 07:17 AM
i see, but i think it does help with some framerates as it has more texture memory

ya 1 more thing dya guys know how to use ddr2 ram as memory for gfx
like im getting 320mb 8800gts, and i want to 512 in it to make it better
how is there an option or something, wud it help?
In earlier days u could give AGP aperture size to ur AGP or onboard GFX which used agp lanes.However with newer pci-express video cards its not possible.But the lower end segment from nvidia does support turbocache which allows u to add additional ram to ur pci-express video card.Its however not possible for the 8800 series.

entrana
01-09-2007, 07:21 AM
o ok thanks:smile: :smile:

dOm1naTOr
01-09-2007, 10:34 AM
@entrana
512 MB for x200 is no gud than 128 Mb. The problem is not about storing those textures, but the GPU can't process so much textures. So its useless to give so much memory for texture which never gonna be filled above 128/256.
But ur system ram will be more if u set it 128, then it has greater advantage.
Ull have faster game loading and less lags.
Never turn on AA, AF, triple buffering, and mip mapping[set to lowest] on ATI Cpanel.

Also ur GPU natively dun have memory, but the shown 256 is da " hyper memory" which id dynamically allocated at time of GPU load. Its value can't be changed unless uve total RAM less than 256MB. So set another 128 as shared. So the actual shared is 128 and if the GPU wants, then itll use another 256 also, and if not needed, itll work as system ram. So u see it is useless to share more than 128.

Ive benchmarked my onboard ATI X1250 setting it 128 Mb and 256 MB and the result is somewhat same, but the loading was much better when it was at 128.

niraj trehan
01-09-2007, 11:30 AM
HELP FOR 8800 GTX......
I bought 8800gtx xxx 768 mb bt when i ran vista the drivers which came wid graphic card didnt work and the warning came "get drivers from xfxforce.com"
bt when i went to the website the drivers were corrupt.is there any 1 here who has the same card and is running vista ultimate.
THANKS FOR ANY HELP:)

entrana
01-09-2007, 02:41 PM
Thx aravind

Harvik780
01-09-2007, 03:16 PM
HELP FOR 8800 GTX......
I bought 8800gtx xxx 768 mb bt when i ran vista the drivers which came wid graphic card didnt work and the warning came "get drivers from xfxforce.com"
bt when i went to the website the drivers were corrupt.is there any 1 here who has the same card and is running vista ultimate.
THANKS FOR ANY HELP:)
Download the drivers from here-
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

bigdaddy486
01-09-2007, 03:34 PM
hey, can anyone plz tell me which is the graphics card with 512mb ram, i mean, DDR, DDR2, GDDR, GDDR2,GDDR3. i don't care what type the ram is. which is and what's the price?

entrana
01-09-2007, 05:54 PM
there are many^^^
like 8600gt.8400,7900 etc

sagargv
01-09-2007, 09:13 PM
hey, can anyone plz tell me which is the graphics card with 512mb ram, i mean, DDR, DDR2, GDDR, GDDR2,GDDR3. i don't care what type the ram is. which is and what's the price?

the nature of gpu matters a lot more than just mem.

entrana
02-09-2007, 06:53 AM
yup true

gulgulumaal
02-09-2007, 06:50 PM
Hi,

I have a Pentium D 2.8 Ghz dual core processor + ASUS LD2VMSE Mobo with 1GB DDR2 RAM. I'm a casual gamer..I play games only once in a while..mostly racing games like NFS. I dont play FPS games and stuff.

Now I'm not able to play NFS carbon with my current setup (onboard graphics - intel 945 chipset) , so I'm considering buying a graphics card. My budget is not fixed, but I wouldnt want to spend too much on a graphics card.

I was considering a 8600GT but looks like with my current system and my very little gaming usage it would be too much. Planning to settle for an XFX 8500GT for around 4,600 in Trivandrum. I know 8500GT is not a very powerful card, but it seems to be good VFM and would be enough for my gaming.

But given my processor(non Core2 Duo)/mobo/RAM, do u think this card would overkill?..should I go for a lower card like 8400 or something?

entrana
02-09-2007, 08:32 PM
no 8500gt would be fine, but dont expect good graphic support and good framerates with this its ur choice, live with it cuz its really really bad
8600gt should suffice for a long time so i suggest u go with that. u have fine specs for 8600gt, is ur cpu pentium d or core 2 duo. make sure u have a pciexpress 16 slot and a good smps. id suggest cooler master 600wats smps worth 4k its pretty stable

gulgulumaal
02-09-2007, 08:56 PM
Mine is not Core2 duo, but dual core Pentium D. Yes I have a PCIe slot and my cabinet/SMPS is from iBall..400W if I remember correctly. And..no..I dont intend to go for a an SMPS worth 4k ...thank u :)

BTW I know that compared to 8600GT 8500GT is not so good, and that it has half the number of SPs and has limited features, but I'm wondering if the price difference is really worth the money given my limited gaming. XFX 8500GT is 4,600 and XFX 8600GT is around 7k, so that's a cool 2.5K difference.

I'm not a hardcore gamer by any means but if spending the extra 2.5K would make an appreciable difference in my gaming experience I dont mind spending the extra money. It's not like I dont have the money to spend, I'm just thinking whether it's worth the amount.

Also the question is if I go for a 8600GT would the rest of my system be able to keep up with it?. Coz I saw an earlier post that someone's 2.6Ghz single core system was not able to run latest games at high frame rates even with a 8600GT card.I dont want to end up in a situation like that.

Ok I guess I'm not like your typical gamer boy who wants the fastest and latest hardware :) Something that gets me going is fine.

Also regarding SMPS, a 400W unit should be ok for 8500GT/8600GT right?. Do I really need a higher rated unit?. Also my cabinet is Mini ATX so things could get a little cramped :) But there's a CPU chimney and 2 cabinet fans to get things cool

dOm1naTOr
02-09-2007, 09:09 PM
@bigdaddy486
There is 7300GT 512MB DDR3 and 7600GS 512MB DDR2
They are for 4.5k and 5.5k.

gulgulumaal
02-09-2007, 09:16 PM
Hmm...after going through the forum for some time and reading all the reviews, it really starts to look like everyone hates the 8500GT :(

If that card is really that bad, then I think I'll stick with 8600GT @ Rs 7k. I hope I could consider the extra 2.5K spent as a part of future proofing.

But guys, please tell me this, would a 8600GT run fine with a Pentium D (not Core2 Duo) 2.8 Gig/1GB DDR2 and a 400W iBall SMPS ?

dOm1naTOr
02-09-2007, 09:22 PM
and mr.Gulugulumal [nut askin about Lottilodukku] there is a lot difference b/w 8500GT nd 8600GT. 8500GT can onle be called a DX10 card, even lower priced 7 series card outperforms it.
see this to get an idea bout the card's perfomance.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9100/856855318ik1.th.png (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=856855318ik1.png)

An 8500GT can't even handle todays games at moderate level? then what bout future games at least those gonna released withion 1 yr?

I admit that even 8600GT won't be able to handle all at moderate lavels, but much much better than 8500GT.
An 8600GT is for 6.5k and defenitely worth it.

Yup, an 8600GT on ur system won't be an overkill for system . For such a proccy to be bottleneck u must get atb least 8800GTS 320. Todays games must need a dual core nd u have it. Relax dude, its enuf, its only downside is high heat generation.
Get some 50 bucks 80mm fans and attach them on cabby.
And an 8600Gt runs fine on iball 400w SPU. No need for upgrade now.
But yeah, if u gonna have an extra HDD and one optical drive along with some other stuffs then get at least a colorsit, Powersafe or Zebronics Platinum 500w for 2k.

entrana
02-09-2007, 09:30 PM
does the ibal smps have a pcie connector u need that too or u can use a spare molex with a converter

dOm1naTOr
02-09-2007, 09:34 PM
@entrana
8600Gt dun need dat connector.

gulgulumaal
02-09-2007, 11:23 PM
@aravind_n20
Thanx buddy

BTW my SMPS says 17A on +12.
Hope that's enough to keep the system going with the 8600GT

dOm1naTOr
02-09-2007, 11:33 PM
An 8600GT needs exactly 17A on 12v rail. Hope it wud work like a charm.
No problem if u try keepin ur current one. If there is any unstability[i hope there in none], then ull have to spend 1.5k~2k more.
Zebronics 400W [500 bucks one] says some 20A on 12v rail. nyways these are not correct. We can only rely on the power of rated PSU's which start at 2k range.

gulgulumaal
02-09-2007, 11:59 PM
@aravind_n20, saw ur post a little late..I was busy taking the pic of the SMPS:)

Pls see the specs of the SMPS below.
http://i1.tinypic.com/64625x2.jpg

This is my cabinet and SMPS
http://iball.co.in/inner/show_product_details2.asp?catid=20&pid=110

BTW if the SMPS is rated for 17A 12V and the 8600GT card needs 17A for itself, then I'm just wondering if there'll be enough power for the other folks inside the cabinet (Mobo, drives...etc) :(

dOm1naTOr
03-09-2007, 01:00 AM
The +5v rating is higher than normal, but he 12vrail s kinda less. Anyhow its enuf for 8600GT as it consumes less power than previous series cards.
chech ur total power consumption here:

www.extre.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

BULLZI
03-09-2007, 09:50 AM
@harvik

i am using psu's molex connector to power up my vga.but i think its not getting sufficient power.
ur pic of that Gigabyte one is right,except that of my card is from xfx:).

DD3030
03-09-2007, 04:07 PM
Hi all :p

I am planning to get x2 3800+, 2X1 GB, ASUS M2A-VM, 160GB SATAII, DVD-RW, XFX8600GT. Could you tell me what SMPS is needed for this - is 500W needed or not and can I get any good one within 1.5 - 2K or is it better to spend more?

entrana
03-09-2007, 04:46 PM
there is a converter available that converts 2 molex into 1 pcie i think u shud try to find that

Harvik780
03-09-2007, 07:05 PM
@harvik

i am using psu's molex connector to power up my vga.but i think its not getting sufficient power.
ur pic of that Gigabyte one is right,except that of my card is from xfx:).
I cannot tell unless i see ur 3d mark score(2005 or 2006).The HX620W is a very good power supply.I don't know why ur card came with a single molex inlet,it should have come with two.Anyway check with the 3d mark score and post it here,u can also compare it with scores on the net to see if its low.If there is a huge difference then it'll prove that ur card is receiving low power.

Hi all :p

I am planning to get x2 3800+, 2X1 GB, ASUS M2A-VM, 160GB SATAII, DVD-RW, XFX8600GT. Could you tell me what SMPS is needed for this - is 500W needed or not and can I get any good one within 1.5 - 2K or is it better to spend more?
Get zebronics pure platinum 500 watt.It costs Rs 1850+tax(Might be even lower these days).Its quality for u.Don't hesitate to buy it.

gulgulumaal
03-09-2007, 10:34 PM
I did some more research and it's starting to look like I can't have a 8600GT on my PC without upgrading my SMPS, so that would be around 7K for the card and another 1k (atleast) for the SMPS. I dont think spending 8k would be justified for just some casual weekend gaming.

If I'm going for a low end card...around 4k or lesser, which card do u guys suggest. Pls keep in mind that the driving factor for me buying a card is that I'm not able to play NFS carbon on my system. Pls suggest a card for me that is low in price and would be able to play NFS carbon pretty well.

Thinking realistically, I would probably play and finish off carbon (like I did for UG2), and then I would probably not play any other game for a few months.

So what card would you suggest @ <= 4k budget which can run NFS carbon more or less comfortably ?

entrana
04-09-2007, 06:07 AM
8500gt

keith_j_snyder2
04-09-2007, 09:33 PM
I did some more research and it's starting to look like I can't have a 8600GT on my PC without upgrading my SMPS, so that would be around 7K for the card and another 1k (atleast) for the SMPS. I dont think spending 8k would be justified for just some casual weekend gaming.

If I'm going for a low end card...around 4k or lesser, which card do u guys suggest. Pls keep in mind that the driving factor for me buying a card is that I'm not able to play NFS carbon on my system. Pls suggest a card for me that is low in price and would be able to play NFS carbon pretty well.

Thinking realistically, I would probably play and finish off carbon (like I did for UG2), and then I would probably not play any other game for a few months.

So what card would you suggest @ <= 4k budget which can run NFS carbon more or less comfortably ?


See the bazaar section....may be u can get some old but a decent card!

DD3030
05-09-2007, 10:43 AM
Get zebronics pure platinum 500 watt.It costs Rs 1850+tax(Might be even lower these days).Its quality for u.Don't hesitate to buy it.[/quote]

thanks for reply, harvik, i might go for that only :p

napster007
05-09-2007, 05:18 PM
i'll most probably be buying a new gfx by the end of this month. please suggest a good graphic card for not more than 6k-7k.

secondly my friend has an saphire x1600pro. should i go for that or is 8600gt better and will it fall under my budget?
thanks.

Choto Cheeta
05-09-2007, 05:25 PM
All Depends on ur Interface !!! if PCI-E then for 6 to 7k budget I would Vote for XFX 8600 GT GDDR3 256 MB @ Rs. 6700/- + TAX :D

entrana
05-09-2007, 05:51 PM
8600gt, plus 8600gt support dx10

napster007
05-09-2007, 06:03 PM
is 8600gt better than ati x1600pro? (not considering the fact that x1600 is dx9)

entrana
05-09-2007, 07:31 PM
yes infact 8600gt is better
besides most games come out for nvidia, and are optimized for nvidia but it totally depends on you if you want you COULD go to ati but they are weak at anti aliasing

you wont believe this
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Alleges+NVIDIA+Cheats+in+HD+HQV/article8608.htm

sakumar79
05-09-2007, 09:18 PM
I have seen comparisons that X1650XT is approximately equal in performance to 7600GT... The X1600 series was not good... There are also comparisons that 8600GT is at the moment getting beaten by 7600GT in performance (this was true some time back, dont know if revised drivers have changed this)...

Arun

entrana
06-09-2007, 03:25 PM
but ati is weak at anti aliasing, and anti aliasing happens to be a really important thing

quan chi
06-09-2007, 05:14 PM
well which one is better 6600gt or 7300gt.

entrana
06-09-2007, 07:15 PM
why do u ask id say both of them are useless, and go for 7600gt
but if i was to choose id think it wud be 6800, i think

niraj trehan
07-09-2007, 04:22 PM
Avid gamers have a look at this thread.this is for those who want to compare gaming on VISTA and on XP.
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67463

keith_j_snyder2
08-09-2007, 12:59 AM
but ati is weak at anti aliasing, and anti aliasing happens to be a really important thing

I don't think so dude.
ATi was the one who got the FSAA(Full Screen Anti-Aliasing) + HDR simultaneously on their X19XX series!
And nVidia has got this feature from Dx10 seris cards!

Harvik780
08-09-2007, 01:02 AM
I don't think so dude.
ATi was the one who got the FSAA(Full Screen Anti-Aliasing) + HDR simultaneously on their X19XX series!
And nVidia has got this feature from Dx10 seris cards!
I am a noob but ur even more than a noob.If professional gamers see what u have written they will fall flat on the floor laughing.Sorry for the rude reply.I'll explain if u request.

keith_j_snyder2
08-09-2007, 01:09 AM
I am a noob but ur even more than a noob.If professional gamers see what u have written they will fall flat on the floor laughing.Sorry for the rude reply.I'll answer if u request.

Well thanks for the compliment but i m willing to be proved wrong!
And if i m wrong then i won't mind to be laughing matter!

Harvik780
08-09-2007, 01:14 AM
Anti-aliasing with HDR was even possible on nvidia's Geforce 6 series card but the least recommended card was Geforce 6600 the Nvdia geoforms demo proved this.The anti-aliasing feature used was software based.And yes that was just what ATI uses till now even in the HD2XXX series.In this type of Anti-aliasing the jazzies are removed via software processing through pixel-pipelines(Now know as stream processors).However nvidia has introduced Hardware based anti-aliasing with there Geforce 8800 series based cards which is faster.ATI still uses software based anti-aliasing that's the why it had to introduce so many stream processors in its HD2XXX series.

keith_j_snyder2
08-09-2007, 01:31 AM
Anti-aliasing with HDR was even possible on nvidia's Geforce 6 series card but the least recommended card was Geforce 6600 the Nvdia geoforms demo proved this.The anti-aliasing feature used was software based.And yes that was just what ATI uses till now even in the HD2XXX series.In this type of Anti-aliasing the jazzies are removed via software processing through pixel-pipelines(Now know as stream processors).However nvidia has introduced Hardware based anti-aliasing with there Geforce 8800 series based cards which is faster.ATI still uses software based anti-aliasing that's the why it had to introduce so many stream processors in its HD2XXX series.
Well if u can see my signature,i am also a proud owner of nVidia's 6 series GPU(6800).THis was the first GPU which holds the HDR....BUT....not HDR+AA.
This feature is not even on 7900 GTX.

Check this link and read the first page:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/hdr_aa_ati_radeon_x1k/
http://www.thetechlounge.com/article/268-3/XFX+GeForce+7900+GT+256MB+PCIE+XXX+Edition/

Just run through it dude!

Harvik780
08-09-2007, 01:38 AM
I don't believe on what others say but what i see and observe.I have run the demo,u can download it on nzone and see for urself.Nvidia avoids software based anti-aliasing as its slow and emphasizes on hardware based anti-aliasing.U can goto www.ati.com to check the specs of these video cards and ati reveals that the anti-aliasing techniques are upgradeable via software drivers(that's only possible in software based anti-aliasing).

entrana
08-09-2007, 06:16 AM
sure the downside of nvidia is that only 8800 series has hdr+aa but still id prefer nvidia any time over ati cuz even though ati has hdr+aa, its slow man

hash!!
08-09-2007, 11:57 AM
ummm sorry to haggle you guys again and again, but theres hardly any material on google that'd reassure me on this...
would the cooler master 550w real power be good enough for an 8800gts 320mb?

entrana
08-09-2007, 02:42 PM
check if it has one pcie connecter 6pin

The_Devil_Himself
08-09-2007, 06:23 PM
How much better XFX 8600Gt 'fatality' edition is in comparison to normal 8600GT?Is the price difference justified?

entrana
08-09-2007, 08:33 PM
i am not sure about the justification about the price, but the fatal1ty edition is a type of factory overclocked 8600gt, with better heat solution and about the maximum reachable clock, i think, dunno about the price though but think of it as a overclocked 8600 gt with warranty that costs 3k more

keith_j_snyder2
09-09-2007, 04:01 AM
sure the downside of nvidia is that only 8800 series has hdr+aa but still id prefer nvidia any time over ati cuz even though ati has hdr+aa, its slow man

For sure dude. nVidia is always my first choice too because of the reason of less poer hungry.

Although ATi cards are behemoths but they actually perform better.
U can sse the comparision of 8800 GTS (640MB) and HD2900XT(512MB).
The 2900 XT eats up almost every thing but the card is a monster.

Just for a note:
THe X1900 XTX eats almost double the power compared to 7900 GTX but it also performs better than 7900 GTX.
Also in this case i 'de say that 7900 GTX will be a better choice because the performance difference is not that much as compared to power consumption.

The same story is with the 8800 & 2900.

U will hardly notice people with X-fire setups since 95% people(including me) prefers SLI setups.

entrana
09-09-2007, 07:00 AM
i guess it just depends on the choice of the people, besides i cant find a good store to buy ati anyways

hash!!
09-09-2007, 06:51 PM
check if it has one pcie connecter 6pin

it has a 6 pin pcie connector... i guess pin extensions are pretty much available in the market, and in any case, folks at nehru place always have a jugaad for everythn...
but what im concerned about is if its good enough for an 320mb 8800gts...

xbonez
09-09-2007, 07:13 PM
yes, a 550w PSU from CoolerMaster is enough for ur 8800. if u go in for an unbranded 550w PSu, be assured u'll have stability issues.

entrana
09-09-2007, 07:19 PM
sure go ahead buy the smps

frogonfloor
09-09-2007, 10:25 PM
hi friends i have bought a new samsung lcd 40 inch it have 3 hdmi port .
i have a pc with pentium d dualcore 2.8
1.5 gb ddr2 ram
160 gb sata hhd
and intel D102GGC motherboard

i want to connect my pc to LCd throung HDMI can anyone suggest me any cheap graphic card which have HDMI port so that i can connect it to my lcd and play games and movies.

keith_j_snyder2
10-09-2007, 02:15 AM
i guess it just depends on the choice of the people, besides i cant find a good store to buy ati anyways

But there is also some thing what we called "value for money".

Ati has record of making inexpensive cards but u will barely see a cheap Ati card. When i bought my 6800 GS, i actually bought an X800XL and both costs same but i returned the X800XL because it doesn't have what the 6800 GS holds (HDR). Besides the dealer was a really good friend of mine so he diden't charge for anything and exchanged it for me.

There is also one thing i forgot to mention that at the time of purchase i asked my dealer that why are Ati cards are not available easily and also they are costly here? He said because of the market requirement. People alwasys insists on nVidia rather than Ati.
U can also see most of the digiters are having nVidia cards and also u will hardly see the price list of Ati cards.

entrana
10-09-2007, 07:14 AM
yeah value for money sure, but here nvidia too wins because why waste ur money on a sucky card, specially if u have loads of cash ill say 8800gts 320mb is better than their hd2900

Gigacore
10-09-2007, 07:30 AM
Suggest Decent PCIe Graphic Card for 4500 -5000 K (256 MB & Pixel Shader 3 is must) from nVidia

The_Devil_Himself
10-09-2007, 01:35 PM
^^Go for 7600GT.OR extend the budget a bit and consider 8600GT(DX10).

entrana
10-09-2007, 02:59 PM
dude everyone knows 7600gt is better than 8600gt and dx10 isnt everything dude

The_Devil_Himself
10-09-2007, 03:14 PM
^^I was just suggesting.Considering his budget 7600Gt will be the best for him.

Choto Cheeta
10-09-2007, 03:21 PM
@Santosh

5k, is neither for a Vaule for money budget nor a mid end buget, I snatd by The_Devil_Himself... Try and push for 8600 GT 256 GM for Rs. 6700/- + TAX over 7600 GT !!!

frogonfloor
10-09-2007, 06:16 PM
hi friends i have bought a new samsung lcd 40 inch it have 3 hdmi port .
i have a pc with pentium d dualcore 2.8
1.5 gb ddr2 ram
160 gb sata hhd
and intel D102GGC motherboard

i want to connect my pc to LCd throung HDMI can anyone suggest me any cheap graphic card which have HDMI port so that i can connect it to my lcd and play games and movies.


plz help anyone

entrana
10-09-2007, 07:44 PM
u can try 7600gs it has a hdmi port

Kalyan
11-09-2007, 02:31 PM
Hi ..

I have posted my queries before but couldnt make up for an answer. Suggest a good gfx card for this config:

AMD Athlon X2 5600+
ASUS M2NPV-VM Mobo
Transcend 1GB DDR2 800MHz
PSU: 400W (given with iBall cabinet.)

Please suggest a good graphics card in Rs.7k for this config. Any suggestions on upgrade are welcome. I live in Hyd. I posted this as separate thread but no answers were given. Just suggest me a good gfx card. My monitor is LG1753s with vga port(FYI). I might not go for SLI but, is my mobo SLI compatible?

I saw in the forum that nvidia is about to launch 8700 or 8900 variants. Is it worthy to wait for the prices drops in the previous models? if so, how much time should I wait? Please suggest quickly or I might spend the money I have for some junk..

Also if possible, suggest any good shop at Hyd where I could get them(might be a CTC or somewhere else)

Please hurry.....

entrana
11-09-2007, 02:41 PM
with that smps u might wanna go for a 7600gt or 8500gt

Kalyan
11-09-2007, 03:19 PM
Please include suggestions based on the budget for gfx card. what smps should I have for 8600 or 7900/7950? The budget I specified is for gfx card only. I also need suggestions for upgrades if needed. Would I be able to sell this smps on seconds sale? I think at a budget of 7k, I could get a better card.. What would happen if I use 8600 or so with this smps? could I give it a try or would it damage the card?

entrana
11-09-2007, 03:22 PM
i know 8500gt costs around 5k and 7600gt costs around 6k i think, u will need to change ur smps to get better gfx, but then the gfx too will flow out of ur budget so i think u might wanna stick to either of these two, id prefer 7600gt
i didnt tell u 8600gt because its above ur budget it costs around 8k

Kalyan
11-09-2007, 03:38 PM
So, how much powered smps would I need to run 8600 or 7900etc? and what would happen if I run these cards with 400w smps? and any info abt the 8700? should I wait till they release or would it be wise to buy the card now?

The_Devil_Himself
11-09-2007, 03:53 PM
i know 8500gt costs around 5k and 7600gt costs around 6k i think, u will need to change ur smps to get better gfx, but then the gfx too will flow out of ur budget so i think u might wanna stick to either of these two, id prefer 7600gt
i didnt tell u 8600gt because its above ur budget it costs around 8k

No dude XFX 8600Gt is just Rs.6700+taxes.And its a lot better than 7600GT.But he will need to buy a better SMPS like zebronics 500w one.His current SMPS is 400W which is more than enough for 8600GT but its not very reliable.

entrana
11-09-2007, 04:49 PM
o i see the prices of 8600gt has gone down, then u can try buying the zebronics platinum 500watts worth round 2k, and then 8600gt is 6.7k i suggest u increase your budget because by spending a lil more , this stuff is more future proof

The_Devil_Himself
11-09-2007, 04:55 PM
Or maybe wait a lil more for the release of 8700 and 9800 then the prices of 8600 are really gonna slash.

Kalyan
11-09-2007, 06:50 PM
Or maybe wait a lil more for the release of 8700 and 9800 then the prices of 8600 are really gonna slash.

Any idea how much time It may take?? :confused: :confused:

entrana
11-09-2007, 09:23 PM
we are expecting it by early january 2008

The_Devil_Himself
11-09-2007, 10:07 PM
whaaaat January??Man thats around 4 more months.are you sure?I think 8700 will be released much earlier(by November)

Harvik780
11-09-2007, 10:13 PM
whaaaat January??Man thats around 4 more months.are you sure?I think 8700 will be released much earlier(by November)
Yes,by early January Rashi Peripherals would be selling the XFX brands for the 8700GT/GTS cards.

smit
11-09-2007, 10:21 PM
just to remind everybody that 8700 GTS would be selling at U.S at 199 $ that doesn't mean it will be selling for 9k in india , i bet the starting price of 8700 GTS would be around 14k or more in india, & they will be slower then 8800 GTS version make no mistake here, so going with 8800 GTS 320 MB isn't bad idea.

Harvik780
11-09-2007, 10:30 PM
Most people would probably settle for the GT and if both cards have the same no. of stream processors then we might be able to mod the GT into GTS.

The_Devil_Himself
11-09-2007, 10:36 PM
Then how much The GT version is gonna cost??

Harvik780
11-09-2007, 10:37 PM
Then how much The GT version is gonna cost??
It's the GT version that will cost Rs 9K.

The_Devil_Himself
11-09-2007, 11:27 PM
I Think it will be perfect for me.It will be better than any 8600 atleast.

keith_j_snyder2
11-09-2007, 11:57 PM
yeah value for money sure, but here nvidia too wins because why waste ur money on a sucky card, specially if u have loads of cash ill say 8800gts 320mb is better than their hd2900

Well i bet u haven't checked the benchmarks on the web. Coz if u do then u won't be saying this!

My friend 2900XT gives better performance than 8800 GTS(640 MB) which is having double the memory of 320 MB version of 320 MB GTS. Although the 320 MB version is sure value for money but u can't say that 2900 XT sucks compared to 8800 GTS.

2900XT gives almost little lower performance than 8800 GTX but in some benchmarks it also smokes 8800 GTX.

So ASFAIK and the benchmarks says "8800 GTS (320MB)" can't beat 2900 XT...anyway!

I Think it will be perfect for me.It will be better than any 8600 atleast.

Yeah i hope it should be in 265 bit version whereas 8600 GT is 128 Bit.

Harvik780
12-09-2007, 01:20 AM
Well i bet u haven't checked the benchmarks on the web. Coz if u do then u won't be saying this!

My friend 2900XT gives better performance than 8800 GTS(640 MB) which is having double the memory of 320 MB version of 320 MB GTS. Although the 320 MB version is sure value for money but u can't say that 2900 XT sucks compared to 8800 GTS.

2900XT gives almost little lower performance than 8800 GTX but in some benchmarks it also smokes 8800 GTX.

So ASFAIK and the benchmarks says "8800 GTS (320MB)" can't beat 2900 XT...anyway!

Hmmmm,do u know that the 2900XT beats the GTX in 3D Mark 2006 but do u also know that this