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slash_89
28-04-2007, 10:27 AM
[quote=sagargv]@slash,well , he says that there aint any temp sensors , so if u're feeling it to be very hot. fit an extra fan.


ya but how do i fit a fan since the GPU is an IGP(integrated to the mainboard)
its an nvidia geforce 6150.

saurya_mishra
28-04-2007, 11:35 AM
Hello everybody.

I have a small problem regaurding my graphic card. I wish to buy a nVidia GeForce 7 series(7100GS) Graphic card. But the problem is that my MotherBorard - Intel D865GBF - has six PCI slots. The card requires PCIe slots. What do i do now? Can i mount the card on my PCI slots? Is there a PCi to PCIe adapter available?
Also, the card works with DDR2 RAM while I have DDR RAM 512 MB. So will it work? If Not please tell me which Graphic card sud i buy...

Thanking in Advance.
Saurya

darklord
28-04-2007, 02:15 PM
Hello everybody.

I have a small problem regaurding my graphic card. I wish to buy a nVidia GeForce 7 series(7100GS) Graphic card. But the problem is that my MotherBorard - Intel D865GBF - has six PCI slots. The card requires PCIe slots. What do i do now? Can i mount the card on my PCI slots? Is there a PCi to PCIe adapter available?
Also, the card works with DDR2 RAM while I have DDR RAM 512 MB. So will it work? If Not please tell me which Graphic card sud i buy...

Thanking in Advance.
Saurya
You will need a motherboard with PCIe slot.you cannot use PCIe card in PCI slot.You will need to buy AGP card or get a new mobo with PCIe slot

@slash,well , he says that there aint any temp sensors , so if u're feeling it to be very hot. fit an extra fan.

will it get burnt ?? i dunno much abt that. but first errors u wud get are artifacts , irregular unwanted polygons and graphics errors while playing .

@darklord ,thanks.. very well . then i'll go for 8600GT once i can get it ( or some better ati if any...) . will my onboard support games on vista ?? the mobo site says it will run on 2.1 only in vista ??

Well excessive overheating of the chipset will mean that the mobo itself might die off.Although as long as you do not fiddle around with the heatsink n all,if it dies, there is warranty to get it repaired or replaced.

As for 8600GT, lots Mainstream 8 series cards previewed here,

Galaxy 8600GT,Galaxy 8500GT, Galaxy 8600GTS ;) (http://www.thehardwarelabs.com/index.php)

Also these cards are readily available now.Check the above link,all details are provided :)

kooabs03
28-04-2007, 03:51 PM
i have a 1X,4X & 8X pci-e slot in my dell computer. which graphics cards can i use. also plz mention the price of those cards.

darklord
28-04-2007, 04:51 PM
i have a 1X,4X & 8X pci-e slot in my dell computer. which graphics cards can i use. also plz mention the price of those cards.

If the slot is 16X but works are 8X speeds then you can use a normal PCIe card in it.Only it will work at 8X speed instead of 16X speed.

The link i have given has the prices clearly mentioned. :rolleyes:

kooabs03
28-04-2007, 05:14 PM
If the slot is 16X but works are 8X speeds then you can use a normal PCIe card in it.Only it will work at 8X speed instead of 16X speed.

The link i have given has the prices clearly mentioned. :rolleyes:nope the physical slot is 8X. how do i put a 16X pci-e into a 8X slot. also suggest a card around 3k-4k. 2nd hand card also acceptable.

darklord
28-04-2007, 08:52 PM
nope the physical slot is 8X. how do i put a 16X pci-e into a 8X slot. also suggest a card around 3k-4k. 2nd hand card also acceptable.

I have seen 1X,4X &16X slots,havent seen an 8X one,could you post a pic or so ?
for 3-4k, 7300GT fits the bill,although its bit on the higher side,its worth it.;)

kooabs03
29-04-2007, 01:11 PM
I have seen 1X,4X &16X slots,havent seen an 8X one,could you post a pic or so ?
for 3-4k, 7300GT fits the bill,although its bit on the higher side,its worth it.;)
here is the pic of 8X pci-e slot of my computer.
http://i13.tinypic.com/2s6kd1u.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/2lcqys8.jpg

the url http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2h7ovw3
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=3yn0tig

darklord
29-04-2007, 06:27 PM
Hmm seeing a PCIe 8X slot for the first time :P

kooabs03
29-04-2007, 07:25 PM
Hmm seeing a PCIe 8X slot for the first time :P

so, will 7300 get into this slot?

sagargv
29-04-2007, 07:48 PM
@slash , find the source of the prob , try putting that thermal paste(dunno if it is possible..) on the IGP , i had seen another guys mobo temp high coz the vendor had put a cutton cushion ! in between the mobo and the cabinet..
try running the rig without the cabinet . and yes , do a thourough cleaning , i have a presshot proccy , i cleaned the fan over the proccy with a ear bud for 5mins and temp reduced from 55 to 50 while idling and 61 to 56 while gaming... use a hairdrier if it has an option to switch off hot air(dont even think of doing with hot air..) if not use a table fan with max speed in front of cabinet..im sorry that im not solving ur prob , but i think thats all i know.
above all if nothings working , get ur vendor or a technician and ask him to check as he might have experience on this..

@surya_mishra
outta luck buddy , although gcard ram (GDDR)and ur mobo ram are unconnected ( a GDDR4 will work fine with a DDR1 ) , ur mobo doesnt have pcie , so no slot to put ur card , u have to go for agp ( higher price lower performance lower availability). u cant hope for mobo change without proccy change as pcie starts from 915..u have 865..

@kooabs03
i'm not very sure . But i feel u will have no probs . as u have x1 , x4 and x8 slots , one or the other will work . and dark lord assures me that there is no much performance diff between 16x and 4x . but dont use x1 , its slower than agp..conclusion: u wont have probs. but im not sure as aint any expert in this field . All the same i have seen quite a lot of guys using x4 especially those using asrock boards .and x8 are not extinct or anything like that .they are the running models in sli .

7300GT pile of junk in one yr . get 8500GT or wait for ati release ( may 14 ).
I think u can get dx10 cards if u slightly up ur budget.but dx9 cards will become a waste in one yr or one + half yr.

@voldemort
buddy , all sli boards use x8 + x8 . i dont think there are any boards with x16 + x16 . also some ati boards give x4 + x16 i heard. so x8 aint that uncommon.
u dint tell me anything abt my onboard sound...or shud that not be told in this section , i dont mind posting another topic..

this is wat i saw in tomsplace , maybe this is common knowledge , but i didnt know , so dont laugh at my post.
a board is allowed a total of x20 , most use x16 and four x1 pcie . sli boards use two x8 and four x1 pcie.now they are trying to break this limit..

ancientrites
29-04-2007, 08:04 PM
sagargv wrote ( i dont think there are any boards with x16 + x16 )

you are not aware of the current mobos by asus,gigabyte, ecs etc bro mine is asus p5n32-sli deluxe mobo pal that gives full x32. of course only when you place two graphic card like 8800gtx or 7900gtx it will go on to be sli.

saurya_mishra
29-04-2007, 11:07 PM
ok so if i cant put the nvidia Geforce 7 cards on PCI slots, thell me some cards that work with pci slots (not pcie). will these have hypermemory or turbochache technology? please help me.

saurya

ancientrites
29-04-2007, 11:35 PM
ok so if i cant put the nvidia Geforce 7 cards on PCI slots, thell me some cards that work with pci slots (not pcie). will these have hypermemory or turbochache technology? please help me.

saurya

i am confused what you say:confused:. agp graphic card will fit on agp slot and pcie graphic card will fit on pcie slot

saurya_mishra
30-04-2007, 12:03 AM
i am confused what you say:confused:. agp graphic card will fit on agp slot and pcie graphic card will fit on pcie slot

what i want to ask is simple. agp card will work with agp slot allright, but isnt there a graphic card 4 PCI slots? and please give me some recomendations for a AGP graphic card,

thnx

darklord
30-04-2007, 12:17 AM
There are PCI graphic Cards.most common are FX5200 and all :)

sagargv
30-04-2007, 10:42 AM
thanks for the info ancient rites...
@surya , see if u can find 6200 ( i think it has TC model also..)

thanks for the info ancient rites...
@surya , see if u can find 6200 ( i think it has TC model also..)
if u're looking for agp , u can get upto 7 seires , dont think tey'll release 8xxx on agp , but u can get 7 series in agp . i have heard of 7600GT agp models also.
but you'l find pci harder to find . if u got agp slot , go for agp.

saurya_mishra
30-04-2007, 01:15 PM
@ sagarv and darklod,
thanks, i will try to find out a 7 series ... i wil also try to find a pcie to agp bridge chip ... ATi had released one some time bak didnt it ...

keith_j_snyder2
01-05-2007, 12:03 AM
The motherboard which have 3 PCI-E slots with 2 of identical colors & the 3rd one with the different color is X8(for Physics card).the other 2 slots are X16.The slot that shown in the picture of DELL machine,i saw it almost 18 months back when a grahics card(the video card used by the professional movie makers & absolutely useless for gaming)was this slot.I m not sure that u will be able to use a PCI-E card but take ypur chances but on the other hand it is a PCI-E slot the last part will remain empty when u put a PCI-E card.

The X32 was even in the Socket 939+ actually first X32 was AKAIK was ASUS A8N32SLI Deluxe which one of my friend owns for last 16 months.
The only drawback of the motherboard is if someone put 2X7950GX2 on the board it will give X8+X8,not X16+X16,rest of all cards will run inX32 mode.The board is still a no.1 & a legend in 939 socket,after this MSI K8N diamond plus holds the record.

kooabs03
01-05-2007, 10:26 AM
[quote] keith. thnx for the reply, but all three pci-e slots are black in colour. the white one is PCI slot. plz tell me which graphics card can i use in the slots(i mean physically inserting)

keith_j_snyder2
01-05-2007, 01:45 PM
Yes u are right that white colored slot is PCI.But thats not even X8.Also i never saw anywhere about its speed.They say AGP is better than PCI & PCI-E is better than AGP.There are not much cards that comes for PCI,but u will find a good lsit,but hey don't loose hope .I m sure u will find few PCI cards.
My personal suggestion is buy a motherboard instead of a card,with an onboard graphics.THey are worth rather than a PCI card because after sometime if u wanna sell your card u won't get value for ur card.Otherwise don't buy less than geforce 6200.
Enjoy hunting the card!

kooabs03
01-05-2007, 03:46 PM
[quote=keith] u misunderstood me, i wanted a pci-e graphics card which would fit into one of the black pci-e slots

1st pci-e slot = X1
2nd pci-e slot = X8
3rd pci-e slot = X4

RisINg
01-05-2007, 09:49 PM
OK , is the Radeon X1300 XT AGP available in India ? If so , then can someone please tell me the retail price ?

keith_j_snyder2
01-05-2007, 11:28 PM
yeah dude i know that....ok buy any PCI-E card but it won't be running at X16 which usually single PCI-E slots do.Also i m not sure that u will be able to use the card on the slot.THe best way is to borrow the card from your friend & use it for 1-2 hours.

Ray
02-05-2007, 10:06 AM
guys i have been searchin all over kolkata for this 8600gts card with no luck.:( can u please suggest any shops selling it currently in kolkata. i will be buying it in june 07. please help!

saurya_mishra
02-05-2007, 12:43 PM
is it true that i sud stick to 128 MB cards in AGP class rather than 256 MB? is the performance difference much? what is the approx price difference? sud i go for 128 MB with another 512 MB ram to add on to the performance?

Thanx

keep_it_rl
02-05-2007, 12:47 PM
Guys I have a huge collection of divx files...and i wanna view them on tv....
Which is the cheap and best video card to take video ourtput to my tv.....
and wnt both the s video and rca connector on it

ratzee199
02-05-2007, 12:57 PM
Hello guys..i am just wondering about the
Sapphire X1950 Pro ULTIMATE 256MiB PCIe
Palit 1950pro super 512 MB DDR3
cards...how are they? What's the warranty.I never used ATI based cards before..from vwrious review i saw that these 2 cards, actually outperform 7900 GS and GT..in performance.
Can you please provide me with more details..
where can i get it in MUmbai...and what's the proce for it??

please help....

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keith_j_snyder2
02-05-2007, 11:59 PM
The card is a good choice but don't u think its really late to think about "DX9" cards.
Wake up dude,its the beginning of DX10 era!!!
Consider DX10 & if u seriously wanna own an ATi card then take a nap & wake on 14th MAY...hopefully u will see a wide range of DX10 cards & really better than X1950 pro...
I m quite serious dude!!!

Guys I have a huge collection of divx files...and i wanna view them on tv....
Which is the cheap and best video card to take video ourtput to my tv.....
and wnt both the s video and rca connector on it



The all new nVidia 8500 GT,quite futuristic)!

sagargv
03-05-2007, 09:51 AM
how much will the ati dx10 ones cost ?

ratzee199
03-05-2007, 10:58 AM
But if u r looking at the performance for all these 8500 or 8600 cards...u can see that they are...not good enough in performance even 8600 GS's performance is somewhat in between 7600GT and 7900 GT...so what's the catch in here??
Also...i am sure they are future proof..but for how long we have to wait for the reduction of the price?? 8800 is too much costly...
....surely I'll consider that future proof thing...anyway...thanx

__________________________________________________ ______

keep_it_rl
03-05-2007, 02:32 PM
The card is a good choice but don't u think its really late to think about "DX9" cards.
Wake up dude,its the beginning of DX10 era!!!
Consider DX10 & if u seriously wanna own an ATi card then take a nap & wake on 14th MAY...hopefully u will see a wide range of DX10 cards & really better than X1950 pro...
I m quite serious dude!!!





The all new nVidia 8500 GT,quite futuristic)!

Thx Dude,But not much into gaming so my motive for buying a graphic card is to watch movies on my TV thtsall so i really dnt care bout it being outdated or something just wnna buy a graphic card to connect my tv

monkey
03-05-2007, 04:36 PM
guys i have been searchin all over kolkata for this 8600gts card with no luck.:( can u please suggest any shops selling it currently in kolkata. i will be buying it in june 07. please help!

Found it here: http://www.yantraonline.in/Product.asp?SubCatId=24

OK , is the Radeon X1300 XT AGP available in India ? If so , then can someone please tell me the retail price ?

Found AGP X1300 but not X1300XT here: http://www.yantraonline.in/Product.asp?SubCatId=38

rahulbalmuri
03-05-2007, 07:52 PM
Hey Can Anyone Suggest Me Where To Buy A Latest Graphic Card For My Hp Pavilion Dv6226us Laptop???????????????

emailaatif786
03-05-2007, 08:11 PM
I want to buy a Graphics Card for Windows Vista.

I want to consider the following:
1:- I NEVER PLAY GAMES.
2:- Need to purchase only & only for running Windows Vista Aero features.
3:- DDR2.
4:- 2.0 or 3.0 Pixel Shader.
5:- AGP 8X or PCI.
6:- 128MB
7:- Seventh & Most important,ie; It should be Below Rs 3000.

primitive_trash
03-05-2007, 09:45 PM
Hey Can Anyone Suggest Me Where To Buy A Latest Graphic Card For My Hp Pavilion Dv6226us Laptop???????????????

u cnt upgrade the graphics card in ur laptop...well in any laptop.

deathvirus_me
03-05-2007, 11:53 PM
I want to buy a Graphics Card for Windows Vista.

I want to consider the following:
1:- I NEVER PLAY GAMES.
2:- Need to purchase only & only for running Windows Vista Aero features.
3:- DDR2.
4:- 2.0 or 3.0 Pixel Shader.
5:- AGP 8X or PCI.
6:- 128MB
7:- Seventh & Most important,ie; It should be Below Rs 3000.

6200 :D ...

keith_j_snyder2
03-05-2007, 11:58 PM
Thx Dude,But not much into gaming so my motive for buying a graphic card is to watch movies on my TV thtsall so i really dnt care bout it being outdated or something just wnna buy a graphic card to connect my tv


Yeah i read it in your previous post thats why i suggested 85000 GT.Its more like DX10 version of 7300 GT.Good for HTPC on a 30" LCD,but it will also work as a entry level gaming device....& 8500 GT is an entry level DX10 card.Its better than 7300 GT because of various things(i can't put all details here,u have to find out yourself the difference & performance amoung the two).

I want to buy a Graphics Card for Windows Vista.

I want to consider the following:
1:- I NEVER PLAY GAMES.
2:- Need to purchase only & only for running Windows Vista Aero features.
3:- DDR2.
4:- 2.0 or 3.0 Pixel Shader.
5:- AGP 8X or PCI.
6:- 128MB
7:- Seventh & Most important,ie; It should be Below Rs 3000.

If u are a proud owner of AMD socket AM2,then buy a motherboard with 690G+SB600,its better than any onboard display card & solve your almost all purposes.

OR shift to DX10 range...

quan chi
04-05-2007, 04:11 PM
well what is the lowest price for dx10 compatable gfx card.is it 30k?

deathvirus_me
04-05-2007, 07:31 PM
Naah .. 8500GT's are around 5k's ... so that'd be the lowest dx10 graphics card available right now :D ...

monkey
04-05-2007, 07:32 PM
well what is the lowest price for dx10 compatable gfx card.is it 30k?

Around 6k for 8500GT

quan chi
04-05-2007, 08:13 PM
Around 6k for 8500GT

well will 8500gt play games like splintercell and call of duty2 in medium settings in 1024x768 resolution.

sagargv
04-05-2007, 08:44 PM
is dx10 exclusive to vista ? ( ithought so , i want to be sure)

monkey
04-05-2007, 08:54 PM
well will 8500gt play games like splintercell and call of duty2 in medium settings in 1024x768 resolution.

8500GT and even 8600GT don't perform as well as 7600GT so they are not necessarily better than 7 series. Playing SplinterCell and CoD2 at 1024x768 settings shud give average FPS considering that I play these game on my 6600GT at these settings.

is dx10 exclusive to vista ? ( ithought so , i want to be sure)

DX10 card is required to enable Aero feature of Vista. Other features of Vista run fine even on DX9 cards.

sagargv
04-05-2007, 08:56 PM
and i forgot . . . i'm planning on buying 8600GT from dubai or 8500GT , just waiting for ati release . . i want to know the price of psu which i will need ,could u please tell me ? i'm really tight on budget . i think max is 2k. i hope i can get something for that
thanks.

@monkey , can i run dx10 on xp.

quan chi
04-05-2007, 11:38 PM
according to me dx10 can be run on xp vista or even 2000 and nt in short almost in all versions of windows.
this only i suppose. no conformation yet.:D

sagargv
05-05-2007, 09:12 AM
ok . tell me where to find dx10 for xp .and what abt the smps i'll be needing

monkey
05-05-2007, 01:36 PM
ok . tell me where to find dx10 for xp .and what abt the smps i'll be needing

I don't think DX10 will run on XP. It was meant for Vista and written specifically for it. In fact there was news of hybrid DX10 which will enable DX10 to run on XP but with limited functionality only. No news on it yet.

Also to run 8500GT/8600GT a PSU of 450W/500W will do which you can buy for under 2k. If you are buying gfx from Dubai then just take care of warranty issues as if something goes wrong with the card then you are doomed if the card is not under International warranty. Alternatively I suggest you buy from India as the difference in lower-end cards is not much and you will get full warranty support.

In continuation to my above message...
"The hybrid DX10 is called DX9.0L for XP."
Sorry..missed out this in the previous posting..

sagargv
05-05-2007, 03:52 PM
thanks . so vista --dx10 . ok . and the card has international warranty. my pop's friend is the manager of some company(or something , i dunno exactly ) and he visits india quite frequently and he said that the prices for which they sold in dubai were quite lower , so he asked my dad if wanted any comp parts. so i hope there is no prob.

Could you please tell me teh names of the psu which i will need . i was going to banglore day after tomorrow , i thought i would get one . thanks.

sabret00the
08-05-2007, 08:44 AM
Booked a 256mb Zebronics 8600GT (3year warranty) for Rs.2000/- as it's not available in the market yet.The card will be delivered to me within the next 2-3 days and it's gonna cost me Rs.7900/- + VAT in full.I guess its very cheap for the performance provided by the card.

sagargv
08-05-2007, 08:54 AM
hey , what psu do u have or going to have ??
but i must say , it wud have been better to pay 2k extra and get xfx . zebronics aint that a good gfx card manufacturer . . ( heard they use chinese pcb )

monkey
08-05-2007, 10:52 AM
500 Watt PSU from Zebronics/Powersafe shud be enough to run 8600GT. They all cost about 2k. Higher brands like Antec/Corsair/CoolerMaster will cost much more and shud be considered with future expansion in mind.

Also I found this for gfx cards: http://www.yantraonline.in/Product.asp?page=1&SubCatId=24
Some XFX cards are missing but atleast u get the idea on prices (prices may be discounted by 5% as claimed).

sagargv
08-05-2007, 01:01 PM
thanks a lot . i'll buy one of the two . . .
will amd release mid end cards on may 14 ?

quan chi
08-05-2007, 01:18 PM
well which will be more good. buying a ps2 for7k or going for gfx.

sagargv
08-05-2007, 02:15 PM
ps2 - getting outdated pretty fast ( though hangs still in india )
if its a dx10 card , get it , its better than the ps2 . . .

keith_j_snyder2
08-05-2007, 09:30 PM
well which will be more good. buying a ps2 for7k or going for gfx.

Its all about requirement.U have to decide which is more necessary to u.Some say PSU & some say Graphics card.

In 7K u can have the best of the best PSU.I suggest THERMALTAKE or ANTEC,or if u can find OCZ or CORSAIR,these are few of the best PSU available in the market.

Do u expect a DX10(a good one,which can run without a problem in maxed out the settings)card in 7K?

If yes i suggest go for Card,if power isn't a problem!

Kniwor
08-05-2007, 09:49 PM
Its all about requirement.U have to decide which is more necessary to u.Some say PSU & some say Graphics card.

In 7K u can have the best of the best PSU.I suggest THERMALTAKE or ANTEC,or if u can find OCZ or CORSAIR,these are few of the best PSU available in the market.

Do u expect a DX10(a good one,which can run without a problem in maxed out the settings)card in 7K?

If yes i suggest go for Card,if power isn't a problem!
dude he said PS2

sagargv
08-05-2007, 09:51 PM
i dont think he or i intends on getting a psu for 7k . . .

keith_j_snyder2
08-05-2007, 10:00 PM
^^^ohh...my bad.
Anyways....r u Serious! I'de rather go for PSP if it comes to console.
Don't but PS2,u can run almost every game on PC Emulator.THe web is filled with these emulators.......tried once,worked fine.

sr_garg
08-05-2007, 11:20 PM
hiii frnds does DVI output increase picture quality?????

NIGHTMARE
08-05-2007, 11:50 PM
^^^ohh...my bad.
Anyways....r u Serious! I'de rather go for PSP if it comes to console.
Don't but PS2,u can run almost every game on PC Emulator.THe web is filled with these emulators.......tried once,worked fine.

which emulator for PS2 or PS1

sagargv
09-05-2007, 07:35 AM
i suppose ps1 , but i havent looked for ps2 emulators for quite a while . .
But playing a game on the console gives a far different feeling than emulating it on the pc..

quan chi
09-05-2007, 11:11 AM
well what is the cost of ps1 now.:D
well i suppose ps1 games are low on graphics than ps2 isnt it.and how much is psp.for running a ps2 game i think you will need quite a high system requirements.a good gfx card.

deathvirus_me
09-05-2007, 03:11 PM
Well , for running PS2 games .. lol .. even the emulator doesn't support all the games ..

sagargv
09-05-2007, 10:26 PM
will d101ggc support dx10 cards ? especially those from nvidia as it is made on ati x200 chipset , any conflicts or huge performance loss ??
thanks

NIGHTMARE
09-05-2007, 11:27 PM
ps2 emulator is using only cpu power

keith_j_snyder2
10-05-2007, 01:18 AM
Right but u need a decent DUAL CORE CPU,1GB+RAM & 6200 for smooth running of the game & i m mentioning the PS2 Emulator.The PS1 emulator is history.Now days even PSP can run ur old favr8 PS1 games.There are games for download on PSP website but they charge for every single game.

codename_romeo
10-05-2007, 01:51 AM
how is an ASUS EN7300TC pci-e card for a mild gamer???????
I basically play UT2004 and any other new game thats launched......wil like to play rainbow six : las vegas etc also

sabret00the
10-05-2007, 02:42 AM
hey , what psu do u have or going to have ??
but i must say , it wud have been better to pay 2k extra and get xfx . zebronics aint that a good gfx card manufacturer . . ( heard they use chinese pcb )

I use a Zebronics Antibiotic cabinet and a Zebronics 500Watt Platinum PSU

sagargv
10-05-2007, 08:59 AM
thanks.

sr_garg
10-05-2007, 01:12 PM
hiii frnds does DVI output increase picture quality??????

NIGHTMARE
10-05-2007, 05:13 PM
Right but u need a decent DUAL CORE CPU,1GB+RAM & 6200 for smooth running of the game & i m mentioning the PS2 Emulator.The PS1 emulator is history.Now days even PSP can run ur old favr8 PS1 games.There are games for download on PSP website but they charge for every single game.

not working good on dual core

cooldip10
10-05-2007, 05:23 PM
hiii frnds does DVI output increase picture quality??????

Guess so.

Hi guys.

Can any one Post the new rate of 256MB GFX Card (any Make) but PCIe only.

baccilus
11-05-2007, 10:56 PM
What will be the performance of a direct x10 8500Gt card as compared to 7600GS? Also tell the approximate prices of both( prefferably in Chandigarh). If i buy this card will i be able to FEAR at medium to high settings at 1024X768 or 800 X600 resolution? I have around 6000 bucks for a graphic card.Will i be able to play all the DX9 games on it too? I am planning to buy within next 10-15 days.

deathvirus_me
12-05-2007, 09:54 AM
Get the 8500GT for sure ... if ur more interested in performance .. u might as well save a bit and go for a X1950GT for around 8.5k's ..

praka123
12-05-2007, 10:24 AM
I have a mobo: Asus P5VDC-MX(p4m800pro) for my p4 prescott 2.8Ghz.
It is based on VIA chipset and Unichrome Pro IGP gfx.now GFX is poor and no driver(good) for Unichrome pro.so please suggest an NVIDIA based(no ATi coz linux drivers are not so great) pcie card.my budget is less than 3500Rs.I am not into gaming much.i want a decent card with atleast 256MB RAM.
My mobo supports both DDR2 and DDR(two seperate slots).Hope U guys help me find my card. :)

sabret00the
12-05-2007, 10:34 AM
My motherboard requires SLI ready memory to run SLI mode

Can anyone tell me about this memory card and its price plz?
http://www.corsair.com/corsair/products/specs/CM2X1024-6400PRO.pdf

monkey
12-05-2007, 11:27 AM
Check it out here: http://www.yantraonline.in/Product.asp?SubCatId=1

Ask for higher discount (around 7%) when buying. I have been able to extract 7% discount instead of 5% they give otherwise.

keith_j_snyder2
12-05-2007, 11:20 PM
not working good on dual core


I don't know but your configuration will smoothly run the PS2 emulator.
One of my friend is having Sempron 2800+ & compatible motherboard from ASUS,512Mb Ram,6200 AGP and he plays Here Comes The Pain.
I have seen Resident Evil 4 running on X2 3800+ with 1 GB RAM,6600(vanilla)
The game was running fine.

Another Thing.

WHY ISN'T THERE ANY ATi CARDS PRICE LIST?

NIGHTMARE
13-05-2007, 07:17 AM
@keith_j_snyder2 bro can u give me ps2 emulator which is working on ur PC just i want to run only two game 1-->GOD OF THE WAR and --> TEKKEN-4.PLZ see my configuration in signature i think its sufficient

nish_higher
13-05-2007, 10:04 AM
can anyone tell me the current price of 7600GS and 6800xt(both 256mb)?is there another better card in this range?

raj14
13-05-2007, 10:23 AM
can anyone tell me the current price of 7600GS and 6800xt(both 256mb)?is there another better card in this range?

7600GS 256MB is around 4.5k
6800XT is 5.1k

assuming your budget is around 6k, get 8500GT, its a good choice if you want to be future proof; otherwise, get a Point of View 7600GT 256MB or XFX 7600GT 256MB.

nish_higher
13-05-2007, 05:47 PM
so how much is 8500GT?i think its direct X 10 card?

keith_j_snyder2
13-05-2007, 06:23 PM
The nVIDIA 8xxx series is DX 10.So all those model number starts with 8xxx GT,GS,GTS,GTX.....& so on,are DX 10 equipped!

cooldip10
14-05-2007, 10:11 AM
The nVIDIA 8xxx series is DX 10.So all those model number starts with 8xxx GT,GS,GTS,GTX.....& so on,are DX 10 equipped!

Good info buddy..

But what's the price for mid-range 8XXX cards??

ambandla
14-05-2007, 01:17 PM
Raedon 2900 XT Arrives, priced at $400,

faster than similarly priced 8800 GTS by miles

slower than outrageously priced 8800 GTX (ultra) and even outclassed 8800 GTX in few gaming benchmarks.

Con: very noise and powerhungry

Source: Extremetech

blackleopard92
14-05-2007, 07:44 PM
Raedon 2900 XT Arrives, priced at $400,

faster than similarly priced 8800 GTS by miles
better yes, but not by miles.

slower than outrageously priced 8800 GTX (ultra) and even outclassed 8800 GTX in few gaming benchmarks.
lol, don't joke. even 2900XTX couldn't match 8800GTX, it has now been postphoned to q3. so, nothing beats 8800GTX.
2900XT is a 8800GTS competitor.

quan chi
14-05-2007, 08:12 PM
well whats the basic difference between gt and gs.whats their full form.

ancientrites
14-05-2007, 08:19 PM
forget 8800 ultra for time being,this ati card is not able to beat the normal factory clocked 8800gtx cards.look below for the links

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?cat=grfx&id=511&pagenumber=2
http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/radeon-hd-2900xt/index.x?pg=11
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM0MSwxNywsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1100/15/page_15_final_thoughts/index.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/431/20/

ambandla
15-05-2007, 06:40 AM
lol, don't joke. even 2900XTX couldn't match 8800GTX, it has now been postphoned to q3. so, nothing beats 8800GTX.
2900XT is a 8800GTS competitor.

I am not joking mate. See the benchmark results @extremetech.com.

blackleopard92
15-05-2007, 01:41 PM
forget 8800 ultra for time being,this ati card is not able to beat the normal factory clocked 8800gtx cards.look below for the links

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?cat=grfx&id=511&pagenumber=2
http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/radeon-hd-2900xt/index.x?pg=11
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM0MSwxNywsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1100/15/page_15_final_thoughts/index.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/431/20/

add another 2 of them
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2988&p=19

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6170621/index.html?tag=topslot;title;1

quan chi
17-05-2007, 12:19 PM
well please can someone tell me which card will be the best 7600gs or 7300gt.and whats gs and gt.

Charan
17-05-2007, 01:54 PM
Can I know the best place in bangalore to buy grafix card other than SP road.

Computer warehouse states that
XFX 7300GT is Rs.4300
XFX 7600GS is Rs.5550
XFX 7600GT is Rs.7100
Radeon X1650 is Rs.6300.

Which one to go for ... is there other other option? I need the gfx card mainly for TV out and vista areo ;) , and a few causal week end gamming in medium settings. My current RAM is 512+256 , Processor is P4 520 (2.8 Ghz HT ) and its on a intel 915GAV mobo. and a 17" monitor

Please let me know your options.

Computer Warehouse Link (http://computerwarehousepricelist.com/productlist.asp?ctg=6)

prosenjitmukherjee
17-05-2007, 03:22 PM
Dear Frends,
I am willing to Buy a Graphics Card(AGP One).Can anyone suggest me which one will be the best ,I am looking forward to buy Nvdia-6600gt , need to know whether it is good enough and the same the same time the current price of the card and of which company shall i buy ........... Please reply

morpheusv6
17-05-2007, 10:07 PM
I am planning to buy 2 Asus EAX1950Pro GPUs and connect them in crossfire mode.

What other components do I need other than the graphics cards(cables etc. )? Is there any tutorial on how to connect them? What is the cost of the connector cables and is it locally available?
Does the motherboard MSI P965 Platinum support Crossfire mode(Its not very clear - does it have 2 x16 PCI Express? which is required for crossfire mode).
By connecting 2 EAX1950Pro GPUs do I get a performane advantage over a single 8800 GTS 320 MB card?

keith_j_snyder2
18-05-2007, 01:50 AM
I suggest get 1 8800GTX rather than 2 1950pro.They sure do perform better in X-fire than 8800.But whats the point of buying the EAX1950pro.
Buy the XFX 8800 GTX XXX Edition(The barrier breaker).
Besides this u gonna need a PSU of 500-600 watt or above to run in X-fire.

Otherwise the answer for ur question:
There are cables that comes with the card & X-fire bridges like SLI but u will need 2 connectors which also comes with the card.
This is your lucky day buddy,the MSI 965 Platinum supports X-fire!!!
but one slot runs on X16 & other will run on X4.
Check the reviews
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2049

darklord
18-05-2007, 11:47 AM
Asus P5B-DLX also supports X-Fire but then 16X+4X only :(

deathvirus_me
18-05-2007, 02:46 PM
16x and 4x ?? or 8x and 8x ??

kapal83
19-05-2007, 02:59 PM
ati radeaon 9600se or fx 5200.. i have choice between them..pls help.. its urgent..
also are ti 4200/4400 cards still available in mumbai?.. are they better than the above cards...?

Don't opt for either of the 2. They both are DDR1 and wont last you more than 4-6 months. Try to look for Nvidia's 6 series (GF 6200) or 7 series (GF 7300GT)

I suggest get 1 8800GTX rather than 2 1950pro.They sure do perform better in X-fire than 8800.But whats the point of buying the EAX1950pro.
Buy the XFX 8800 GTX XXX Edition(The barrier breaker).
Besides this u gonna need a PSU of 500-600 watt or above to run in X-fire.

Otherwise the answer for ur question:
There are cables that comes with the card & X-fire bridges like SLI but u will need 2 connectors which also comes with the card.
This is your lucky day buddy,the MSI 965 Platinum supports X-fire!!!
but one slot runs on X16 & other will run on X4.
Check the reviews
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2049

In X-fire your performance may go down due both cards not performing at same speed. But in SLi you can get both the cards running in 16X with ASUS P5N32-SLi

SLi is easier to config and no need for master card like in X-fire.

Dear Frends,
I am willing to Buy a Graphics Card(AGP One).Can anyone suggest me which one will be the best ,I am looking forward to buy Nvdia-6600gt , need to know whether it is good enough and the same the same time the current price of the card and of which company shall i buy ........... Please reply

Nvidia 6600GT is no longer in production and old technology. You should be looiking for either 7300GT or 7600GT alteast if you want your graphic card to last for a year in AGP.

prosenjitmukherjee
21-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Don't opt for either of the 2. They both are DDR1 and wont last you more than 4-6 months. Try to look for Nvidia's 6 series (GF 6200) or 7 series (GF 7300GT)



In X-fire your performance may go down due both cards not performing at same speed. But in SLi you can get both the cards running in 16X with ASUS P5N32-SLi

SLi is easier to config and no need for master card like in X-fire.



Nvidia 6600GT is no longer in production and old technology. You should be looiking for either 7300GT or 7600GT alteast if you want your graphic card to last for a year in AGP.


Thanks a Lot...Just wanna know wats the Latest price tag for 7300GT...and which one to buy from (XFX,NVDIA..etc) ...

keith_j_snyder2
21-05-2007, 07:24 PM
In X-fire your performance may go down due both cards not performing at same speed. But in SLi you can get both the cards running in 16X with ASUS P5N32-SLi

SLi is easier to config and no need for master card like in X-fire.



.

True but they say the X-Fire is much more stable.People go for the easier option like SLI(just like me) but quite frankly i also never liked the X-fire thing but they say if someone has X-fire X1900XTX & 7900GTX SLI,the X-fire is better.But there are very few people living in X-fire world!

samanvya_ad
23-05-2007, 10:20 AM
hi...

i have an ASUS 6600GT 128 Mb n 6000 in hands with SLi mobo... is it better to get another 6600 GT n make an Sli config or should i sell my 6600gt n get 8600 gt

deathvirus_me
23-05-2007, 03:35 PM
Get the 8600GT ...

samanvya_ad
23-05-2007, 04:28 PM
is it better than 7900 GS.... dont give me the reason that it supports Dx10 ... even 7900 GS is powerful enough to run Dx10 games....
pls help..

Choto Cheeta
23-05-2007, 05:36 PM
even 7900 GS is powerful enough to run Dx10 games....

umm.. Kind a yes kind a no...

see 7900 doesnt support DX 10 so though the Hardware is powerful but still lack support for DX 10 wont allow u to run a DX 10 game...

now, no Game developer will release a game only in DX 10 version in next 2 years i think, so every game will have DX 9.0c support, so, yes, pratcically we may see, 7900 GT running a game in DX9 better than that same game with 8500 or 8600 with DX 10,

but when one brings the 8800 to the picture, story will change :D

samanvya_ad
23-05-2007, 05:57 PM
now, no Game developer will release a game only in DX 10 version in next 2 years i think, so every game will have DX 9.0c support, so, yes, pratcically we may see, 7900 GT running a game in DX9 better than that same game with 8500 or 8600 with DX 10,

u got the point...

but then the question is how many of us are rich enought to buy the 8800 series or say 7800 series(when it was released) .... instead a big chunk of gamers is like me who wait for newer technology to come so that the price for older is cut n then buy the older.....


i bought 6600 gt last year... managed with it for 1 year... will get 7900 GS or 8600 Gt now n then manage for one year.... n then may be i will get 8800 gs n so on.....

so currently what is more powerful 8600 GT or 7900 Gs..... cos in few reviews i saw that in Vista 8600 gt is giving lower performance than 7600 gt....

Choto Cheeta
23-05-2007, 06:19 PM
^^

Certainly if u are plaing to upgreade in next one year to buy a 8800 then right now 7900 is the choise, but again, which os u r in ??

Suppose that if gaming is the only reason, then stick with Windows XP and 7900 though Vista will run cool with DX 9.0.....

and in a year yes upgrade to a DX 10 based card... :)

ssdivisiongermany1933
23-05-2007, 08:14 PM
How about Ati X1950 pro ??? Is it good , will it work on Nvidia 430 based chipset motherboard ,what about the cost ??
and X1950 GT ??

deathvirus_me
23-05-2007, 09:24 PM
is it better than 7900 GS.... dont give me the reason that it supports Dx10 ... even 7900 GS is powerful enough to run Dx10 games....
pls help..


NO .. 7900GS will never run games under dx10 mode ..

8600GT is not better than the 7900GS in dx9.0c performance .. infact an oc'ed 7900GS can go head to head with a 8600GTS ...

keith_j_snyder2
23-05-2007, 10:23 PM
Dude world is changing,& there is no point of going for DX9 series.If u have buck,then grab the Dx10 duck!!

samanvya_ad
24-05-2007, 08:34 AM
Dude world is changing,& there is no point of going for DX9 series.If u have buck,then grab the Dx10 duck!!

world changed for optical fibres years ago... but we still use cat5 cable for LAN n networking.... Dx 10 based games will take time... atleast a year or so ... entry of Dx 10 doesn't mean game developers will phase out Dx9 totally... i need performance for my money .... i will be upgrading again next year... till then a new technology will come... how many Dx 10 apps u know....

i heard vista is based on Dx 10 ... but my 6600 GT with 2 GB RAM runs vista ultimate(build 6000) in an ultra cool way .... 2-3 years ago when Dx 9 came out i had gforce 4 mx 440 it very easily used to run Dx 9 games... even few Dx 9b based games used to run on it ....

all i am saying is that i need a card for 1 year... then why go for an infant technology.... let Dx 10 develop for one more year then next year i can buy better thing......


so now tell me which has got more power 8600 GT or 7900GS(it seems from reviews that 7900GS is far more powerful)....

Harvik780
25-05-2007, 03:29 PM
I wanna know which is better,a single Nvidia's XFX Geforce 8600 GT XXX with nvidia chipset motherboard(nforce 6) or two AMD ATI Radeon HD 2600 pros in crossfire mode with intel chipset(965/975).I m going to buy a new rig to play the DirectX 10 Games such as Lost Planet Extreme Condition,Crysis etc.The card 8600 has only 32 stream processors whereas a single 2600 pro has 120 stream processors.

please reply quickly.

smit
25-05-2007, 06:23 PM
it depends whether you want to wait or not, look HD2600 has not even released in U.S. so it will take a long time before they reach india, & the pirce will also be a killer so say go with a 8600 GT , to be honest i don't think even 8800 GTX ultra or HD2900 XTX will able to run max settings on high resolution, so i say you buy a 8600 GT & overclock it(runs very stable at 720/860) so you can play games like lost planet (very bad use of DX 10), & company of heroes with the DX 10 patch (looks promising), & upgrade next year to a better card.

on a side note : get a 2 GB of RAM, when i was playing company of heroes on 1 GB of ram the performance test showed i was getting 85 FPS but in the campaign mode i was getting 50 FPS with frequent frame drops until i upgraded to a 2 gb ram of course.

keith_j_snyder2
25-05-2007, 11:30 PM
world changed for optical fibres years ago... but we still use cat5 cable for LAN n networking.... Dx 10 based games will take time... atleast a year or so ... entry of Dx 10 doesn't mean game developers will phase out Dx9 totally... i need performance for my money .... i will be upgrading again next year... till then a new technology will come... how many Dx 10 apps u know....

i heard vista is based on Dx 10 ... but my 6600 GT with 2 GB RAM runs vista ultimate(build 6000) in an ultra cool way .... 2-3 years ago when Dx 9 came out i had gforce 4 mx 440 it very easily used to run Dx 9 games... even few Dx 9b based games used to run on it ....

all i am saying is that i need a card for 1 year... then why go for an infant technology.... let Dx 10 develop for one more year then next year i can buy better thing......


so now tell me which has got more power 8600 GT or 7900GS(it seems from reviews that 7900GS is far more powerful)....
Agreed
But we are already using optical fibres in out net connections.Its still not common because optic fibre cable is still very expensive.
DVD9 came a long while ago,tell me how many u have burned it through your writer?

See actual thing is u have option now and u have the assets too.So,as i was suggesting that go for better option.
Otherwise its all your money,do whatever u wanna do.Either buy a 8600 or 7600 or burn it in fire or throw it into the bin,its all upto u!

Anyways the 7900 GS is much better than 8600 GT when it comes to performance in DX 9.

Harvik780
26-05-2007, 02:31 AM
it depends whether you want to wait or not, look HD2600 has not even released in U.S. so it will take a long time before they reach india, & the pirce will also be a killer so say go with a 8600 GT , to be honest i don't think even 8800 GTX ultra or HD2900 XTX will able to run max settings on high resolution, so i say you buy a 8600 GT & overclock it(runs very stable at 720/860) so you can play games like lost planet (very bad use of DX 10), & company of heroes with the DX 10 patch (looks promising), & upgrade next year to a better card.

on a side note : get a 2 GB of RAM, when i was playing company of heroes on 1 GB of ram the performance test showed i was getting 85 FPS but in the campaign mode i was getting 50 FPS with frequent frame drops until i upgraded to a 2 gb ram of course.
Thanks.I have heard that the XFX 8600 GT XXX costs Rs8500-Rs10000 where as an AMD ATI HD2600 PRO costs Rs 5000-Rs6500.So actually I would have to pay Rs 10000-Rs12000 for the ATI ones,so the price difference is not so big.The 8600GT came quickly in INDIA shortly after the launch abroad,I hope ATI HD2600 pro will also be soon released.I'll wait for a performance comparison from some reliable sites.Some of the sites tested AMD ATI products on an Nvidia chipset and that does not help.

trigger_happy
27-05-2007, 08:57 PM
Hey i'm going in for a Zeebronics X1300 PRO 512MB PCI E CARD, which is supposed to be around 6.6k. I intend to use it mainly for gaming and intend to play stuff like fear and hitman:blood money, does anyone have any suggestions or know of a better product? Thanks.

Harvik780
27-05-2007, 09:04 PM
Hey i'm going in for a Zeebronics X1300 PRO 512MB PCI E CARD, which is supposed to be around 6.6k. I intend to use it mainly for gaming and intend to play stuff like fear and hitman:blood money, does anyone have any suggestions or know of a better product? Thanks.
Don't go for Ati X1300 PRO cause it's a low end card.The memory does not matter cause it's not powerful enough to use the full memory.In nehru place if u spend a bit more of about Rs1.4k u might get an Nvidia 8600gt 256 mb which better though it has less memory.Another option is to wait as AMD ATI HD2600 pro will cost Rs6.5K when it's released in India.

trigger_happy
27-05-2007, 09:04 PM
Hey i'm going in for a Zeebronics X1300 PRO 512MB PCI E CARD, which is supposed to be around 6.6k. I intend to use it mainly for gaming and intend to play stuff like fear and hitman:blood money, does anyone have any suggestions or know of a better product? Thanks.

Harvik780
27-05-2007, 09:06 PM
Hey i'm going in for a Zeebronics X1300 PRO 512MB PCI E CARD, which is supposed to be around 6.6k. I intend to use it mainly for gaming and intend to play stuff like fear and hitman:blood money, does anyone have any suggestions or know of a better product? Thanks.
Didn't u get ur answer?????

praka123
27-05-2007, 10:16 PM
How is XFX 7300GS?is it enough for not so gamers?but needs some multimedia.

smit
28-05-2007, 05:33 AM
I read somewhere that anything with GS/LE/LS on the back is not worth for gaming these days, in other words yes you can play all things but be ready to play them with low settings on 1024 x 768, or med settings on 800 x 600.

praka123
28-05-2007, 07:50 AM
^^ thx for ur inputs.I am thinking of buying 7300GT 256 ddr2 RAM based card.which brand shud i look up for?XFX or ASUS :confused:...and can i buy directly from Rashi Peripherals for a single peace?

trigger_happy
28-05-2007, 09:02 AM
Don't go for Ati X1300 PRO cause it's a low end card.The memory does not matter cause it's not powerful enough to use the full memory.In nehru place if u spend a bit more of about Rs1.4k u might get an Nvidia 8600gt 256 mb which better though it has less memory.Another option is to wait as AMD ATI HD2600 pro will cost Rs6.5K when it's released in India.

Thanks man, i had a prob with opera so i posted my query twice, anyway, i'm looking for something available now, cause college starts in a month :!: anyother suggesions?

smit
28-05-2007, 11:25 AM
^^ thx for ur inputs.I am thinking of buying 7300GT 256 ddr2 RAM based card.which brand shud i look up for?XFX or ASUS :confused:...and can i buy directly from Rashi Peripherals for a single peace?

i myself would pick XFX, yeah you can buy from them directly



Thanks man, i had a prob with opera so i posted my query twice, anyway, i'm looking for something available now, cause college starts in a month anyother suggesions?

well you sure can wait for the ATI HD2600 series, but i also think 8600 GT cards are good & cheap , i myself have a galaxy 8600 GT which comes around 8k , the thing is they have good cooling sloution & you can easily overclock them to 700/900 Mhz with very stable perfomence also i can run games like C&C 3 & S.T.A.L.K.E.R on 1024 x 768 with Max settings & AA 8X & AF 16X with good frame rates.

yes, i also would like tell you due to 128 bit memory controller it will have a hard time playing old games like company of heros with max settings on anything higher than 1024 x 768 , i think company of heroes is the only game where 86xx series is perfoming very poorly,but they are going relase a DX 10 patch so i think it will also fix slow perfomence of the 8600 GT cards there.

on a sidenote : 8600 GT perfomences faster in sharder based games like oblivion, 8600 GT more faster in oblivion then 7900 GT.

so in the end i would go with a 8600 GT if you wanna buy card right now but if you can wait then i would say wait for the HD2600 series

praka123
28-05-2007, 12:04 PM
thanks @smit.I'm thinking of contacting rashi Kochin branch sometime today reg xfx 7300 GT card.

Harvik780
28-05-2007, 12:59 PM
Thanks man, i had a prob with opera so i posted my query twice, anyway, i'm looking for something available now, cause college starts in a month :!: anyother suggesions?
Go for a Geforce 8600 GT 256 MB.

sagargv
28-05-2007, 01:20 PM
will hd 2600 beat the 8600GT and wat are their prices and when is 2600 expected in india .

thanks..

gannu_rox
28-05-2007, 01:20 PM
thanks @smit.I'm thinking of contacting rashi Kochin branch sometime today reg xfx 7300 GT card.


Contact Mr. Vinesh... He mite elp ya...

I too wanna invest in a 8800GTs/GTX dunno...

smit
28-05-2007, 02:22 PM
will hd 2600 beat the 8600GT and wat are their prices and when is 2600 expected in india .

thanks..


well in my opinion i think HD 2600 XT will cost around 12k -14k , while the HD2600 PRO 6k-10k but hey i can't tell you for sure & about HD 2600 pro beating 8600 gt that is also another question that we don't know but i myself think there won't be a huge diffrence between 8600 GT & HD 2600 pro.

praka123
28-05-2007, 03:51 PM
OK.I contacted rashi Ernakulam(Kochi) and the lady asked whether i need XFX 7300GT 256MB dedicated RAM or shared one?which one should i try?:confused:

smit
28-05-2007, 04:08 PM
sharedone means one with the turbocache , if you have more than 1 GB go with the turbocache one , it may help you get some more fps, but if you have ram like 1 GB or 512 MB don't buy the turbocache model or your games won't run smooth.

here is more info on turbocache,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboCache

praka123
28-05-2007, 04:15 PM
again thanks @smit.U Rocks! :)

Harvik780
28-05-2007, 04:20 PM
well in my opinion i think HD 2600 XT will cost around 12k -14k , while the HD2600 PRO 6k-10k but hey i can't tell you for sure & about HD 2600 pro beating 8600 gt that is also another question that we don't know but i myself think there won't be a huge diffrence between 8600 GT & HD 2600 pro.
Let me say this straight.The 8600 Gt will beat the HD2600 pro by a moderate margin.Though HD2600 pro has 120 SPs almost 4 times to that of 8600Gt,8600Gt is higly optimized for both DX9 and DX10.Recent reviews show that the HD2900 XT hardly matches the 8800GTX though it has 3 times the stream processors(320 to be precise).All this due to optimization.

Kniwor
28-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Dude world is changing,& there is no point of going for DX9 series.If u have buck,then grab the Dx10 duck!!

LOL... you make me laugh...

In my opinion, it makes much more sense to purchase a 7900GS over an 8600GT, and much more sense to purchase a 7900GT/X1800XT over 8600GTS XXX or whatever.

All the games now, or in near future(atleast for next 15 months) will support DX9 very well, a 7900GT/X1800XT will play a DX10(not a typo) game better than a 8600GTS XXX. I have argued earlier on this and I will repeat myself, 8600 will just support DX10, but what's the point if it's not capable of running the game at high eyecandy, a 7900GT will give u better eyecandy than a 8600 anyday. In the end, guys, dont be fooled by the mid-end DX10 cards, for the same money, get a high end DX9 card, or better still, many guys are selling their high-end DX9 card to get 8800's, it's a golden chance grab it(I saw a 7900GT going for 10k??? in market section), the cards will do good for another year, and will be better gaming experience than the 8600 crap, yes, the 8600's are truly crap, if u can afford 8800's that's the stuff to get.

I did the same, got a 7900GT at low cost, and will suggest you guys also not to waste your money. In my opinion, this is the best time to buy a card when the rich guys are selling 7900's/X1800XT's at such low rates, the 8600's don't stand a chance against them, not by a long shot

keith_j_snyder2
28-05-2007, 08:18 PM
LOL... you make me laugh...

In my opinion, it makes much more sense to purchase a 7900GS over an 8600GT, and much more sense to purchase a 7900GT/X1800XT over 8600GTS XXX or whatever.

All the games now, or in near future(atleast for next 15 months) will support DX9 very well, a 7900GT/X1800XT will play a DX10(not a typo) game better than a 8600GTS XXX. I have argued earlier on this and I will repeat myself, 8600 will just support DX10, but what's the point if it's not capable of running the game at high eyecandy, a 7900GT will give u better eyecandy than a 8600 anyday. In the end, guys, dont be fooled by the mid-end DX10 cards, for the same money, get a high end DX9 card, or better still, many guys are selling their high-end DX9 card to get 8800's, it's a golden chance grab it(I saw a 7900GT going for 10k??? in market section), the cards will do good for another year, and will be better gaming experience than the 8600 crap, yes, the 8600's are truly crap, if u can afford 8800's that's the stuff to get.

I did the same, got a 7900GT at low cost, and will suggest you guys also not to waste your money. In my opinion, this is the best time to buy a card when the rich guys are selling 7900's/X1800XT's at such low rates, the 8600's don't stand a chance against them, not by a long shot
See my dear friend.U are not paying attention.If u think from my point of view u will see how right i am.
No doubt that 7900 GT is better than 8600 GT because the 8600 GT is the Dx10 version of 7600 GT.
If u really wanna compare then compare the 8800 GTS with 7900 GT.There u will see the performance.

All i am saying is not everyone is loaded like u.Your config. might cost around 60-70 K but then also no one change their system min. for 1 year....well for almost 3 years.Well in that case if u are saying that everyone should buy a DX9(New Card) then i will say it again ITS A WASTAGE OF MONEY.The Dx10 card can also run DX 9 games asa well as DX 10 game.So if 7900 GT cost around 10K then i will say go for 8600 GT for lesser price.Although its not that performance with 8600 GT as compared to 7900 GT IN DX 9 but u also have the advantage of DX 10.

Well in your words all those guys who have bought the 8800 GTX & GTS are the real LOSERS?
No my friend they are not losers they are the far sighters.

Dude not everyone can change the system like u do.Besides this there is a new thing(which u haven't heard of) "FUTURE PROOFING".
The 8600 GT is the value for money.If u have 10,000/- & u buy a 7900GT & after 1 year u sell it & buy a better card,i think u should save the money for later upgrade like RAM,processor,or any other thing.Besides the 8600 GT is not lagging in any of the game.

But if the 7900 GT is comming for 5-7K then there is no harm in having it rather than 8600 GT.

But still i will suggest all of u people out there that buy 8600 GT rather than 7900 GT because think about SM 4.0,DX 10,and HDR+AA that the 8600 GT can do but no 7900 GT can!!!!!!!

ALL I AM TALKING ABOUT OPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

smit
28-05-2007, 08:39 PM
also in favour of 8600 GT , 8600 GT runs sharder based games much much better than any card from 79 xx series, you can look in any review of the card you will notice 8600 gt out perfoming 7900 GS/GT cards in
rainbow six : las vegas, oblivion, C&C 3

also note : 8600 cards are just a month old, there are no stable drivers out there for it, when the stable drivers will come out , i.e like 3 months from right now , i am sure 7900gs/gt won't even able touch thses cards in shrader based games, sure they will perform faster in games like far cry but that doesn't matter & DX 10 games also run faster than DX 9 games, so going for 8600 series card isn't that bad as you say

keith_j_snyder2
28-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Smit has another point about drivers but check these reviews:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/486/1/

U will see how the 8600 GTS or 8600 GT is better than 7900 GT.

If u wanna real comparison then compare the 7900 GTX & 8800 GTS(320MB) then u will see the difference.

gannu_rox
28-05-2007, 09:27 PM
also in favour of 8600 GT , 8600 GT runs sharder based games much much better than any card from 79 xx series, you can look in any review of the card you will notice 8600 gt out perfoming 7900 GS/GT cards in
rainbow six : las vegas, oblivion, C&C 3

also note : 8600 cards are just a month old, there are no stable drivers out there for it, when the stable drivers will come out , i.e like 3 months from right now , i am sure 7900gs/gt won't even able touch thses cards in shrader based games, sure they will perform faster in games like far cry but that doesn't matter & DX 10 games also run faster than DX 9 games, so going for 8600 series card isn't that bad as you say

Up ma A**......
Tomshardware reviews... Go check out dat dude... D only 8 series card tat outperforms mine is 8800gts alrite???

Why o'clockin ur 8600 alone?? Do mine n see hw tats performin as well n talk...

smit
28-05-2007, 09:50 PM
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/486/9/

see for yourself 8600 GT beats 7900 GT in rainbow: las vegas without overclocking

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMyNCw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

here is the link where both 8600 GTS cards are beating Ati 1950 pro which is faster than 7900 GT without overclocking.

also, the reason why i said you should because is the most the overclockable card ever built.... don't believe me just the see for yourself
http://vr-zone.com/?i=4925&s=1

so my point is future games will be sharder based, therefore 86xxx series will beat 7900 GS/GT cards on the newupcoming games not to mention it uses low power supply :D

deathvirus_me
28-05-2007, 09:59 PM
LOL... you make me laugh...

In my opinion, it makes much more sense to purchase a 7900GS over an 8600GT, and much more sense to purchase a 7900GT/X1800XT over 8600GTS XXX or whatever.

All the games now, or in near future(atleast for next 15 months) will support DX9 very well, a 7900GT/X1800XT will play a DX10(not a typo) game better than a 8600GTS XXX. I have argued earlier on this and I will repeat myself, 8600 will just support DX10, but what's the point if it's not capable of running the game at high eyecandy, a 7900GT will give u better eyecandy than a 8600 anyday. In the end, guys, dont be fooled by the mid-end DX10 cards, for the same money, get a high end DX9 card, or better still, many guys are selling their high-end DX9 card to get 8800's, it's a golden chance grab it(I saw a 7900GT going for 10k??? in market section), the cards will do good for another year, and will be better gaming experience than the 8600 crap, yes, the 8600's are truly crap, if u can afford 8800's that's the stuff to get.

I did the same, got a 7900GT at low cost, and will suggest you guys also not to waste your money. In my opinion, this is the best time to buy a card when the rich guys are selling 7900's/X1800XT's at such low rates, the 8600's don't stand a chance against them, not by a long shot

Ummm .. NO ... a dx9.0c compatible card , whatever it may be .. will NOT be able to render dx10 in any form .. if u have any doubts , try the dx10 samples in the latest directx SDK ...

As far as it goes about performance .. definitely a 7900GT is better than a 8600GTS .. but considering the current situation , its really hard to make a choice ... one gives better performance and no dx10 , while the other has dx10 and less performance .. if dx10 does give a performance boost over dx9.0c , the 8600GTS might be able to get close to a 7900GT , and then a 8600GTS would definitely be better ... but right now , anything like a 7900GT,7950GT is worth every bit of money ..

Kniwor
28-05-2007, 10:59 PM
Ummm .. NO ... a dx9.0c compatible card , whatever it may be .. will NOT be able to render dx10 in any form .. if u have any doubts , try the dx10 samples in the latest directx SDK ...

As far as it goes about performance .. definitely a 7900GT is better than a 8600GTS .. but considering the current situation , its really hard to make a choice ... one gives better performance and no dx10 , while the other has dx10 and less performance .. if dx10 does give a performance boost over dx9.0c , the 8600GTS might be able to get close to a 7900GT , and then a 8600GTS would definitely be better ... but right now , anything like a 7900GT,7950GT is worth every bit of money ..

dude, u should read the First Line of my post(All the games now, or in near future(atleast for next 15 months) will support DX9 very well), tell me a game which is only DX10, no DX9 support...... you wont be seeing such games for quite some time, so, by DX10 game I mean, the one which has DX10 features as well.... that 8600GTS can use... and even after that 7900GT running that game will give better eyecandy... I guess you will agree to me here...

and here's a little something on performance of DX10 over DX9, it gives more features, but not higher performance.... Infact the DX10 code is slower
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/lost_planet_demo_directx_10_performance/page2.asp


http://www.legitreviews.com/article/486/9/

see for yourself 8600 GT beats 7900 GT in rainbow: las vegas without overclocking

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMyNCw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

here is the link where both 8600 GTS cards are beating Ati 1950 pro which is faster than 7900 GT without overclocking.

also, the reason why i said you should because is the most the overclockable card ever built.... don't believe me just the see for yourself
http://vr-zone.com/?i=4925&s=1

so my point is future games will be sharder based, therefore 86xxx series will beat 7900 GS/GT cards on the newupcoming games not to mention it uses low power supply :D

you are seriously wrong here, 1950Pro by no means is faster than 7900GT.

Higher performance in 1~2 games does not make card faster, it looses out in most games....

See my dear friend.U are not paying attention.If u think from my point of view u will see how right i am.
No doubt that 7900 GT is better than 8600 GT because the 8600 GT is the Dx10 version of 7600 GT.
If u really wanna compare then compare the 8800 GTS with 7900 GT.There u will see the performance.

All i am saying is not everyone is loaded like u.Your config. might cost around 60-70 K but then also no one change their system min. for 1 year....well for almost 3 years.Well in that case if u are saying that everyone should buy a DX9(New Card) then i will say it again ITS A WASTAGE OF MONEY.The Dx10 card can also run DX 9 games asa well as DX 10 game.So if 7900 GT cost around 10K then i will say go for 8600 GT for lesser price.Although its not that performance with 8600 GT as compared to 7900 GT IN DX 9 but u also have the advantage of DX 10.

The only point I can agree to u is that if one is going to keep the cards for next 3 years, he should maybe get 8600's with DX10 support, but in that case, by that time the card will be almost useless, and unable to play any modern games anyhow, so again, the whole point is lost. If u are a gamer, you will change the card in a year and half.... where again, buying a DX9 card makes sense.


Well in your words all those guys who have bought the 8800 GTX & GTS are the real LOSERS?
No my friend they are not losers they are the far sighters.

If u will read my post more carefully, I have suggested 8800 cards for buying, because they are actually performance for money...... and the best buy at the moment, But one might not have that much money...


Dude not everyone can change the system like u do.Besides this there is a new thing(which u haven't heard of) "FUTURE PROOFING".
The 8600 GT is the value for money.If u have 10,000/- & u buy a 7900GT & after 1 year u sell it & buy a better card,i think u should save the money for later upgrade like RAM,processor,or any other thing.Besides the 8600 GT is not lagging in any of the game.

But if the 7900 GT is comming for 5-7K then there is no harm in having it rather than 8600 GT.

But still i will suggest all of u people out there that buy 8600 GT rather than 7900 GT because think about SM 4.0,DX 10,and HDR+AA that the 8600 GT can do but no 7900 GT can!!!!!!!

ALL I AM TALKING ABOUT OPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

I am really confused at your conclusion, what is the point in being able to turn on the effects if u cannot play a game with them turned on, a 7900 card will allow you to play the same game with more eyecandy than 8600, that's my whole point.....

consider the case that the 7300's had HDR support, I'm sure not a single soul was able to play a game on 7300 with HDR on..... hope u get my point...


Smit has another point about drivers but check these reviews:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/486/1/

U will see how the 8600 GTS or 8600 GT is better than 7900 GT.

If u wanna real comparison then compare the 7900 GTX & 8800 GTS(320MB) then u will see the difference.

Funny that review u gave shows 8600's is slower than the 7900's(overall)....lol..


In the end, it is psychologically hard to accept that older is better, but it is, and I never suggested buying new 7900's, get used ones yaar..... save money, and buy a 8800 later..... If u have 7600GT or above, keep it for some time, let the 8800's get cheaper, let the ATI/nVidia DX10 battle heat up.... All I'm saying is, this is a really bad time to buy mid segment DX10 cards, namely 8600's, they are ridiculously priced at the moment, and in no way justify their performance...

smit
28-05-2007, 11:11 PM
and here's a little something on performance of DX10 over DX9, it gives more features, but not higher performance.... Infact the DX10 code is slower

Actually its the games fault why there is lower perfomence, even the review you showed me it self is saying that the game company's goal is to make the game 20 % faster than the DX 9 , i don't know if they could make the game that fast, but i am sure other games will much faster on DX 10

you are seriously wrong here, 1950Pro by no means is faster than 7900GT.
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=646&page=7

see even 8600 GT is faster than the 7900 GT

Higher performance in 1~2 games does not make card faster, it looses out in most games....



8600 cards are just a month old, there are no stable drivers out there for it, when the stable drivers will come out , i.e like 3 months from right now , i am sure 7900gs/gt won't even able touch thses cards in shrader based games


Edit : what i am trying to prove is even 8800 GTS 320 MB is not future proof, i am sure it won't run games like crysis on max setting even at 1284 x 1024 , you are better off getting a 8600 GT so you can try all DX 10 patches so you can buy a good 9xxx series card next year , by that time most card will be very good for DX 10 gaming & the driver will be optimized with taking full advantages of DX 10.

Kniwor
28-05-2007, 11:16 PM
Actually its the games fault why there is lower perfomence, even the review you showed me it self is saying that the game company's goal is to make the game 20 % faster than the DX 9 , i don't know if they could make the game that fast, but i am sure other games will much faster on DX 10


http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=646&page=7

see even 8600 GT is faster than the 7900 GT

that is the first review(I saw) on the whole internet that said 8600GT is a good card.... and gave better results than 7900GT.

Look all the following, and u will see a different Picture...
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2237
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/gpu_displays/nvidia_8600_gts_and_8600_gt_-_foxconn_and_xfx/1
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/486/1/

and the most trusted of all

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2970&p=1

In all cases, 1950Pro is better than the 8600's and 7900GT is definitely better than them all


Edit : what i am trying to prove is even 8800 GTS 320 MB is not future proof, i am sure it won't run games like crysis on max setting even at 1284 x 1024 , you are better off getting a 8600 GT so you can try all DX 10 patches so you can buy a good 9xxx series card next year , by that time most card will be very good for DX 10 gaming & the driver will be optimized with taking full advantages of DX 10.

that's exactly what I'm telling, only difference is I suggest a High end 7 series card, instead of a mid-end 8 series card, for time being...

smit
28-05-2007, 11:23 PM
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/04/17/geforce_8600/page8.html


here is another one where 8600 GTS beats even 7900 GTX in outdoors, indoors don't count anyway ( no big diffrence between 140 fps & 145 fps).

also my entire problem is with 8600 series sucks, granted they suck in games like far cry but they beat 7900 GS/GT cards in newer sharder based games.


edit: also those 8600 GT cards are the wrose 8600 gt cards i have seen , i mean a overclocked 8600 GT delivers as much as a 8600 GTS OC'ed , so never buy a sparkle 8600 GT card.

Kniwor
28-05-2007, 11:30 PM
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/04/17/geforce_8600/page8.html


here is another one where 8600 GTS beats even 7900 GTX in outdoors, indoors don't count anyway ( no big diffrence between 140 fps & 145 fps).

also my entire problem is with 8600 series sucks, granted they suck in games like far cry but they beat 7900 GS/GT cards in newer sharder based games.

dude, please at least post the intro page of review, and the reader will check for himself........ that review you gave shows that the 8600's "suck" ....

smit
28-05-2007, 11:42 PM
my point is simple, this is the last time i am repeating 8600 series will beat 79xx cards in sharder based games like oblivion, rainbow : vegas etc, but it will lose to the older games like F.E.A.R,farcry,doom 3 etc.. because they require more V RAM & a 256 - bit Memory Interface or more

SO in the end buy 8600 cards if you want to play DX 10 i.e games of tommorrow, or buy 79xx series cards to play old games on max settings i.e. games of today


or buy an 8800 GTS 640 MB or more to be future proof & stop thinking about this discussion of 86xxx vs 79xxx series :D

Kniwor
28-05-2007, 11:47 PM
anyhow, I guess I should now go back to OC'ing / Testing my computer... that's lying on the chair...lol (will post pics, it is the coolest comp to look at...ha..ha no cabinet....)

anyone interested will read all the mess we made... and draw his conclusions, I believe people should research for themselves, instead of looking for direct answers....

hitman050
28-05-2007, 11:58 PM
Guys, I am buying a Palit X1950GT for 8600. Can you tell me your opinions on this card. I would playing games like STALKER, Company of Heroes, Rainbow Six Vegas etc, and watching High Definition x264 movies.

Kniwor
29-05-2007, 12:03 AM
All hail Kniwor...

7900GT partners....

Heh...

dude, that's what we call spam..... avoid that...

Guys, I am buying a Palit X1950GT for 8600. Can you tell me your opinions on this card. I would playing games like STALKER, Company of Heroes, Rainbow Six Vegas etc, and watching High Definition x264 movies.

dude, u did not mention the price of the cards???

hitman050
29-05-2007, 12:05 AM
I did mention, Rs. 8600. Anyways, give feedback, whether it will be able to fulfill my needs.

Kniwor
29-05-2007, 12:10 AM
I did mention, Rs. 8600. Anyways, give feedback, whether it will be able to fulfill my needs.

1950GT is like 7900GS and should be sufficient for ur needs....

praka123
29-05-2007, 12:27 AM
Hello,
I am new to GFX cards,I'm thinking of buying a XFX 7300 GT 256 DDRII for my p4 2.8ghz pc.what i want to know is will it works fine without any overheating issues.

keith_j_snyder2
29-05-2007, 12:39 AM
My dear friend Kniwor,
I bet u haven't saw the benchmarking of the game called RAINBOW SIX VEGAS which is the latest among the games which were benchmarked & the 8600 GTS & GT purely wins the battle in this game.
See what u didn't understand is this is just a start of shaders intensified games & future proofing means that in future u will see all the games with this kind of technology used as in UBISOFT's RAINBOW SIX VEGAS.Where it is clear that the 8600 clearly smoke the 7900.

In other words the future proofing is getting ready to take on the next gen technology.
Another thing u mentioned that the 8600 GTS won't be able to run the game in max settings with 1280x1024 resolution.
So the answer is this it is running all the maxed out settings with decent frame rate.
Tell me one thing how many of the people buy the 7900 just for playing the old games because it gives better performance but lags in the current games?
Well in another words if someone can afford the LCD with 1920 or higher resolution he will be watching his back.The 8600 GTS & GT is targeted for the mid range gaming not the high end gaming.If u really wanna see the high end gaming then compare the 8800 ULTRA (the driller) or the 8800 GTX,HD2900XT & then say the word.

There was a time when my 6800GS was also considered as high end but that was the past.Now things have changed,people have moved & so do us.We are supposed to run with the coming technology,not the going one.

If u are saying that its worth waiting for 15 months & then get a Dx10 card,i say its worth waiting 15 months & save ur money by not buying the crap & add some more fuel & u could be a proud owner of.....may be something like 8900 GTX or GTS,which again smoke the 8800 GTX....or maybe something like HD 3000 XTX!!!
Its the technology which is changing day by day & if u are saying that the 8600 will be worthless after some time,then the 7900 will become woths**t after sometime!
Like they say its now or never!!!!!!!!!!!!

gannu_rox
29-05-2007, 12:45 AM
Keep cool dude...

No arguements...

8600GTS is the best card out there n beats d rest....

We need to move with newer tech, well said n so all ye ppl who've anythin less than an 8 series gfx card plz dump it in d bin n get yerself a 8 series one... Before the 9 series is out...

In case it is, buy a 9 series one... N stay clear...

Kniwor
29-05-2007, 12:54 AM
My dear friend Kniwor,
I bet u haven't saw the benchmarking of the game called RAINBOW SIX VEGAS which is the latest among the games which were benchmarked & the 8600 GTS & GT purely wins the battle in this game.
See what u didn't understand is this is just a start of shaders intensified games & future proofing means that in future u will see all the games with this kind of technology used as in UBISOFT's RAINBOW SIX VEGAS.Where it is clear that the 8600 clearly smoke the 7900.

In other words the future proofing is getting ready to take on the next gen technology.
Another thing u mentioned that the 8600 GTS won't be able to run the game in max settings with 1280x1024 resolution.
So the answer is this it is running all the maxed out settings with decent frame rate.
Tell me one thing how many of the people buy the 7900 just for playing the old games because it gives better performance but lags in the current games?
Well in another words if someone can afford the LCD with 1920 or higher resolution he will be watching his back.The 8600 GTS & GT is targeted for the mid range gaming not the high end gaming.If u really wanna see the high end gaming then compare the 8800 ULTRA (the driller) or the 8800 GTX,HD2900XT & then say the word.

There was a time when my 6800GS was also considered as high end but that was the past.Now things have changed,people have moved & so do us.We are supposed to run with the coming technology,not the going one.

If u are saying that its worth waiting for 15 months & then get a Dx10 card,i say its worth waiting 15 months & save ur money by not buying the crap & add some more fuel & u could be a proud owner of.....may be something like 8900 GTX or GTS,which again smoke the 8800 GTX....or maybe something like HD 3000 XTX!!!
Its the technology which is changing day by day & if u are saying that the 8600 will be worthless after some time,then the 7900 will become woths**t after sometime!
Like they say its now or never!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmm... I see u guys mention UBISOFT's RAINBOW SIX VEGAS again n again, and that these cards do well in the game, and that it's a new game.... well, here are the benchmarks for the game, these cards actually "do" better in these games as compared to other games, where their performance is poor, but they don't do any wonders in this game too

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2970&p=8

X1950 Pro still beats all 8600 cards here too, need I say anymore......

what's the cost of an 1950Pro $135, what's the cost of 8600GTS, $250
Make ur decision.............

On thinking, actually 1950Pro is a real good buy at the moment, it almost reaches the X1800XT performance (slightly inferior to X1800XT though), and is really good cost.....

paladin4321
29-05-2007, 01:12 AM
Please Help http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif
my motherboard supports 4x AGP will the Geforce 7600 series cards run on it?? if not, which is the best card that is available in the market for my motherboard??

Kniwor
29-05-2007, 01:17 AM
dude pls give full details, motherboard/processor etc... it is quite possible upgrading motherboard is a better option than getting a graphics card ....

keith_j_snyder2
29-05-2007, 01:40 AM
Hmm... I see u guys mention UBISOFT's RAINBOW SIX VEGAS again n again, and that these cards do well in the game, and that it's a new game.... well, here are the benchmarks for the game, these cards actually "do" better in these games as compared to other games, where their performance is poor, but they don't do any wonders in this game too

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2970&p=8

X1950 Pro still beats all 8600 cards here too, need I say anymore......

what's the cost of an 1950Pro $135, what's the cost of 8600GTS, $250
Make ur decision.............

On thinking, actually 1950Pro is a real good buy at the moment, it almost reaches the X1800XT performance (slightly inferior to X1800XT though), and is really good cost.....
Dude...........u are not paying attention at all!!!

Let other people decide :

1. Buy a X1950 pro for $135 & save $115(250-135=115) & sell your card after 15 months of worth $135 for $35 because it doesn't run the DX10 content & add add $200 to get a 8800 GTX.

or


2.Save your $135 & don't buy anything and after 15 months Add $200 more i.e $200+$135=$335 & be a proud owner of 8900 GTS(something like that)

or

3.Buy a card for $250 & show your bling...bling...& even after 15 months ur card is still surviving but with a little nick of a lag,but u still enjoy all the gaming fun of DX10 & DX9.


Note:I am a proud owner of GAINWARD 6800GS & i bought it almost 16 months back & even now its not lagging that much while running DX9 games.Also i am running NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED with everything maxed on seetings @resulution of 1280X1024.
My graphics card rolled out back somewhat between 2004-2005.But still its running smoothly(almost 2-3 years)!!
3 weeks back i have played the game(S.T.A.L.K.E.R) on my buddy's system who owns 2Gigs RAM,4400+,ASUS A8N32SLI Deluxe & game running smoothly but its not running smoothly on my system because i have 1 GB RAM & thats the min. requirement for the game.
AS in now i say u all people buy the second hand 6800 GS and don't even bother about the 7900 GT or GS because 6800 GS is still running fine with all those DX9 games & also u can get the 6800 GS for the lesser price than 7900 GT.
Now tell me what is more worth buying the 6800 GS or 7900 GT or 8600 GTS?

gannu_rox
29-05-2007, 01:47 AM
Hmmm... I guess 6800 GS frm d explanation tat u're tryin to giv...
Lo'l...

Kniwor
29-05-2007, 01:50 AM
Dude...........u are not paying attention at all!!!

Let other people decide :

1. Buy a X1950 pro for $135 & save $115(250-135=115) & sell your card after 15 months of worth $135 for $35 because it doesn't run the DX10 content & add add $200 to get a 8800 GTX.

or


2.Save your $135 & don't buy anything and after 15 months Add $200 more i.e $200+$135=$335 & be a proud owner of 8900 GTS(something like that)

or

3.Buy a card for $250 & show your bling...bling...& even after 15 months ur card is still surviving but with a little nick of a lag,but u still enjoy all the gaming fun of DX10 & DX9.


Hey thanks, u summed it up really well, and now let the people decide. Thanks again.

I will personally go with option 1, (I pay a total $300, that too in future, I stay with a good card all the time, and end up with a 8800GTX) against option 3 (I pay total 250, that too now, end up with 8600GTS).

smit
29-05-2007, 06:16 AM
Hello,
I am new to GFX cards,I'm thinking of buying a XFX 7300 GT 256 DDRII for my p4 2.8ghz pc.what i want to know is will it works fine without any overheating issues.

You will not have any problems with overheating so ever, due to XFX provides a fan with this card.
( i am not very sure of this, tell me if there is a fan when you buy the card) also there is one last thing i need to tell you i just check 7600 GS comes around for 4k-5k , it is way better than 7300 GT or you can even try & get 7600 GT which comes around 6k , the reason is these card can you let you play most of the new games on fairly high setting at 1024 x 768, so in the end you choose. & yeah 7300 GT itself will let you play at med setting on 1024 x 768 with most games with shadows, aa,af turnd off.

3.Buy a card for $250 & show your bling...bling...& even after 15 months ur card is still surviving but with a little nick of a lag,but u still enjoy all the gaming fun of DX10 & DX9.
i would go with this option if someone is ready to pay the bills thats is :D

GeekyBoy
30-05-2007, 12:27 PM
Can the Intel Desktop board D945GCCR support 8500 GT and 8600 GT ?

What is da price of both cards in Kolkata ?

deathvirus_me
30-05-2007, 03:58 PM
Well , any board with a PCIe4x or better slot should support any PCIe card ... 8500GT is around 6k's .. and 8600GT around 9k's. ..

damnthenet
31-05-2007, 12:00 PM
PLEASE someone tell me a good graphic card for MSI P965 NEO V.....
I'm NOT a GREAT GAMER.... but want to play at least games like NFS Carbon....
I want something compitable for C2D E6320 at price around rs. 3000/-
PLEASE TELL THE BRAND NAME ALSO...
OR
SHALL I GO IN FOR INTEL D965RYCK motherboard with INTEGRATED GRAPHICS

xbonez
31-05-2007, 03:26 PM
for around rs3000/- u'll get a 7300LE or a 6200 gfx card. they'll enable u to play nfs carbon but with most of the eye candy turned off. if u plan to do even a bit of gaming, i suggest u go in for a dedicated gfx card. integrated gfx are no good (particularly those on intel chipset mobos)

keith_j_snyder2
31-05-2007, 10:58 PM
I think u should expand a budget a lil' bit.....& get an 8500GT.Although it still won't be able to run the "eye Candy" but its better than 7300 GT and XBONEZ is right those integrated cards are of no use,those are meant for just diplay.I mean all those with nVidia or ATi chipsets are ok...but for the games like the kids play,not the for real adrenaline filled one!

paladin4321
31-05-2007, 11:19 PM
my MB is an ASUS SiS 650 chipset
2.0 Ghz P 4
640 MB RAM
I currently have a GeForce 2

which is the best GC under 7 k which will run on my machine?

xsreality
31-05-2007, 11:38 PM
7600GT should run fine on your system.

sushantvirdi
01-06-2007, 02:24 PM
I am having problem with my graphic card. It was working fine for years, but today it is not showing up. I tried reinstalling the drivers but it does not show up.
I get the error which is shown in the screenshot below. My card is Geforce MX 200. Does it mean my AGP slot is kaput


http://i18.tinypic.com/4yz24ww.jpg

Please tell me what should i do.

paladin4321
03-06-2007, 11:13 PM
Is the 7600GT available in the AGP version??
my motherboard only supports upto AGP 4X

Ambar
04-06-2007, 11:51 AM
Is the 7600GT available in the AGP version??
my motherboard only supports upto AGP 4X


ya re 7600GT is available in AGp....and is surely backward compatible wid AGP 4x...but idont think u have a good sys to utilise it to the full potential so better a sys upgrade first!!!

Harvik780
07-06-2007, 09:55 PM
I want to know who are the ati graphics card dealers in India.Please someone reply.I have selected ATI after a long analysis of both the companies latest Dx10 products and found a major flaw in the geforce 8 series.

prafulltcs
08-06-2007, 10:31 AM
I have AMD 3000+ and ASUS MOBO A8N-VM, 256MB RAM,

I want to upgrade my RAM? and add a good Grfix card to my system.

Will u please suggest me a Good RAm configuration and Grafix card ??

I am plaaning to order it from abroad ..

Waiting for rplies...

I have AMD 3000+ and ASUS MOBO A8N-VM, 256MB RAM,

I have read this thread , but very much confused which Grfix card will suit my system.

I want to upgrade my RAM? and add a good Grfix card to my system.

Will u please suggest me a Good RAm configuration and Grafix card ??

I am plaaning to order it from abroad ..

Waiting for rplies...

xbonez
08-06-2007, 02:27 PM
^^if u're into gaming, go in for 1GB ram. i have same mobo as urs so i know that it only supports a max of 400mhz. best is let ur 256mb card go, get 2*512mb identical cards and run in dual channel.
gfx card depends on ur budget. whats urs?

Harvik780
08-06-2007, 03:55 PM
Please someone answer my question.

sagargv
08-06-2007, 07:39 PM
@harvik780 , wrong area to post . ask in hardware contact list.

Harvik780
08-06-2007, 08:03 PM
Sorry,but im a nerd that's why i make mistakes.

keith_j_snyder2
09-06-2007, 07:43 PM
I want to know who are the ati graphics card dealers in India.Please someone reply.I have selected ATI after a long analysis of both the companies latest Dx10 products and found a major flaw in the geforce 8 series.

Whats the "FLAW" in Geforce 8 Series?

ancientrites
09-06-2007, 08:07 PM
FLAW hmmmmm... i dont find anything wrong with my leadtek 8800gtx.

sabret00the
10-06-2007, 04:08 AM
Chk this out with the latest Forceware driver installed my Zebronics 8600GT got a rating of 5.9 in windows vista expirence!!!

READ MORE (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=514879&postcount=351)

smit
10-06-2007, 07:15 AM
hey buy another 1 GB ram & you graphics card wil share around 767 MB V- ram , you score will increse alot. Nvidia planted this turbocache feature in there latest forceware drivers.

sabret00the
10-06-2007, 07:26 AM
hey buy another 1 GB ram & you graphics card wil share around 767 MB V- ram , you score will increse alot. Nvidia planted this turbocache feature in there latest forceware drivers.

^^^Exactly,even I noticed that and I have asked a friend in US to get me a couple of 1GB DDR2 800mhz SLI ready modules...lets see if that happens then I guess my score score shud increase even further....

keith_j_snyder2
10-06-2007, 01:12 PM
U know now Days 2GB RAM is a must for gaming....i mean smooth gaming!

svgreatest
10-06-2007, 07:02 PM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/465/21571944kq7.jpg
Hi,
My PC Config is
Intel 915GAV mobo, 512MB RAM, PIV 3GHz, NVidia 7300GS 256MB PCIe Graphics Card. The screenshot shows my problem. When i play graphics intensive games like COD2, my system hangs after some time and my screen becomes as above. Pls help me wid this problem.
Thanks

Shloeb
10-06-2007, 07:13 PM
i am not sure. The card might be overheating

sagargv
10-06-2007, 08:23 PM
probobly yes ( over heating ) , does problem solve after restart ? anyway , try updating the drivers.
I hope u dont hav card frm palit . palit cards usually cause probs .

keith_j_snyder2
10-06-2007, 09:09 PM
Yeah Download the latest Drivers from www.nvidia.com for ur graphics card

svgreatest
10-06-2007, 09:57 PM
@sagargv
No, my card is frm Zebronics. Yeah, the problem ceases when I restart my machine. There isn't much problem when i am doing anything apart from playing games but as soon as i start a game (i.e when i start playing) the problem starts.

xbonez
10-06-2007, 10:39 PM
is it true palit cards give prob. i have a sapphire X1600pro. when i was buying it, i almost went for the palit x1600pro coz its considerably cheaper. but bec of unavailability, i took the sapphire. guess it was a blessing in disguise :)

prafulltcs
11-06-2007, 09:22 AM
^^if u're into gaming, go in for 1GB ram. i have same mobo as urs so i know that it only supports a max of 400mhz. best is let ur 256mb card go, get 2*512mb identical cards and run in dual channel.
gfx card depends on ur budget. whats urs?
Hey budget for 4 grfix is around 10k and

1GB in Thane @ variety i asked is 2200/- (Transcend...) i dont kno abt 512MB * 2??

Please suggest me Grfix card, I heard and even read PCI Xpress grafix card are good @ performance and fast too.. so please suggest me one? wat will be cost @ india...and will i find anee diffrence if order it from japan....?? my friend is coming this monthend...

gannu_rox
11-06-2007, 09:56 AM
Hey budget for 4 grfix is around 10k and

1GB in Thane @ variety i asked is 2200/- (Transcend...) i dont kno abt 512MB * 2??

Please suggest me Grfix card, I heard and even read PCI Xpress grafix card are good @ performance and fast too.. so please suggest me one? wat will be cost @ india...and will i find anee diffrence if order it from japan....?? my friend is coming this monthend...

Yeah dat'll make some diff... had ur friend only been in taiwan, it mus've made a huuuuuuuge diff....

Anyways jus ask him to bring the stuff thru cabin baggage keepin only the card, drivre cds, n cables n ditch the box... If customs find a box in the main luggage, u'll be asked to pay d relevant customs...

prafulltcs
11-06-2007, 11:36 AM
Yeah dat'll make some diff... had ur friend only been in taiwan, it mus've made a huuuuuuuge diff....

Anyways jus ask him to bring the stuff thru cabin baggage keepin only the card, drivre cds, n cables n ditch the box... If customs find a box in the main luggage, u'll be asked to pay d relevant customs...

yeah dats okies...

but will u please suggest me the grafix card that shuld i go 4...??am confused ...bcoz lot of available and am not able to fine good one..

sagargv
11-06-2007, 12:00 PM
@svgreatest , ok , does the same prob occur if u alt+tab out of a game.check the temp of the gpu .

xsreality
11-06-2007, 12:21 PM
Dude...........u are not paying attention at all!!!

Let other people decide :

1. Buy a X1950 pro for $135 & save $115(250-135=115) & sell your card after 15 months of worth $135 for $35 because it doesn't run the DX10 content & add add $200 to get a 8800 GTX.

or


2.Save your $135 & don't buy anything and after 15 months Add $200 more i.e $200+$135=$335 & be a proud owner of 8900 GTS(something like that)

or

3.Buy a card for $250 & show your bling...bling...& even after 15 months ur card is still surviving but with a little nick of a lag,but u still enjoy all the gaming fun of DX10 & DX9.



Nice discussion there.. but a specific question..

I am planning on buying ASUS P5N-E SLi mobo and as it doesnt have on-board grfx, i will have to buy a grfx card.. I was thinking of buying the XFX 8600GT but the above discussions and options have confused me a bit... I have the SLI option too.. so what would be a better option for me? I am into gaming and would want to play NFS Carbon at max settings. 8600GT is hitting hard on my budget, but if its worth it i can go for it.

prasad_den
11-06-2007, 12:30 PM
Ok... I need to decide upon which GFx card to go for im my lappy which I'll be getting next month.. So can someone help me decide between the following..?
IntelŽ Graphics Media Accelerator 950
NVIDIAŽ GeForce™ Go 7400
ATi Mobility Radeon x1400
ANd what about the memory for these.. I'm really zero when it comes to GFx cards, so consider me a noob here..:D

One more info.. My laptop will have at least 1GB DDR2 RAM and 120GB HDD.. And I plan to use Windows Vista.. I need the laptop to be able to play recent games decently.. :D

niraj trehan
11-06-2007, 01:28 PM
i want to buy a good directx 10 grafic card .ihave a budget of 17k...tell me if on waiting for a month or so i can get better thx a lot.
i want my vista gaming xperience to b at arounbd 7 or 8..thx

sabret00the
11-06-2007, 02:17 PM
go for the 8800 GTS 320MB from Leadtek..gonna cost u around 17-18k

gannu_rox
11-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Ok... I need to decide upon which GFx card to go for im my lappy which I'll be getting next month.. So can someone help me decide between the following..?
IntelŽ Graphics Media Accelerator 950
NVIDIAŽ GeForce™ Go 7400
ATi Mobility Radeon x1400
ANd what about the memory for these.. I'm really zero when it comes to GFx cards, so consider me a noob here..:D

One more info.. My laptop will have at least 1GB DDR2 RAM and 120GB HDD.. And I plan to use Windows Vista.. I need the laptop to be able to play recent games decently.. :D

No... No.. No... No...
Dun go fer a lap now... pl wait fer nex month... intel's comin with centrino pro;
a better proccy than d prev centrino duo with a better performance in short...
Gr8 news is nvidia 8 series chips're also gona make it into laps so wait so dat u can even hunt the Dx10 games...

The fruit of patience's always sweet.. :D

i want to buy a good directx 10 grafic card .ihave a budget of 17k...tell me if on waiting for a month or so i can get better thx a lot.
i want my vista gaming xperience to b at arounbd 7 or 8..thx

Den I suppose u wait