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sabret00the
23-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Any new updates on the 8600 series guys?Availability dates?Prices?Models?
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Is the 8600 series going to be backward compatible with Dx 9 based games and apps

keith_j_snyder2
23-02-2007, 11:44 PM
Probably available between march & april.DX9 games will be available approx till end of 2007.People having 8800 GTX & GTS are running DX 9 games on hteir systems so i don't think they will kill the support.

s18000rpm
23-02-2007, 11:56 PM
possible price tag for 8600 Ultra = US $180 ~Rs.8000 (add 4-5k as taxes = final indian price)
The GT runs at 350MHz, with 256MB of RAM to call its own, while the Ultra sports a 500MHz core, with 512MB of memory.


source: engadget.com (http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/nvidias-geforce-8600-series-brings-dx10-without-breaking-the-ba/)

dOm1naTOr
24-02-2007, 12:57 AM
Why the newer 65nm GPU are running at that lower clocks???Even a 7300GT has higher clocks for GPU, even if 8600 if very much faster than the 7300.

s18000rpm
24-02-2007, 01:00 AM
"both 8600 cards being built with an 80nm process and 300 million transistors".

source: the link i gave in my above post:D

dOm1naTOr
24-02-2007, 01:06 AM
Sorry my mistake. But then also 80nm maens the GPU can run stable nd cooler at higher clocks speeds than current generation. Then why is it that even Ultra has only 500Mhz clocks. Just a doubt.

s18000rpm
24-02-2007, 01:14 AM
i'm a noob in Gfx. Dept. too:D
but it has a new architecture, doesnt it?

dOm1naTOr
24-02-2007, 01:25 AM
He He :D

deathvirus_me
24-02-2007, 01:30 AM
Why the newer 65nm GPU are running at that lower clocks???Even a 7300GT has higher clocks for GPU, even if 8600 if very much faster than the 7300.

Well , compare that to a 425 MHz core on the onboard 6100 IGP's :( ... dude ... it finally comes down to the overall performance .. with lower manufacturing costs i.e. ... nvidia doesn't want competition between its own products do they ??

monkey
24-02-2007, 11:19 AM
i have AMD Athlon™ 64 3200+
1gb DDR ram
XFXgeforce 6600 256 MB (pci )
MSI RS482 mother board ....
are the new geforce 8800GTX or geforce 8800gts compatible with my motherboard ?????

Better not use any NVidia VGA card on ur Motherboard due compatibility difference between ATI chipset and NVidia cards. There are lot no. of reports on driver conflicts and stuffs.

mayurpam
27-02-2007, 09:34 PM
any one please tell to what values should i underclock my card so that it does not get damaged

samrulez
28-02-2007, 01:01 PM
NO...don't do it...its better to get a couple of fans and attach 'em..

ganeshdalai
03-03-2007, 03:05 PM
is any body is here to help me
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i hav asus chipset so its need agp card, can any one tell me which agp card is best, plz tell with the resent price frm cheap to high

dOm1naTOr
03-03-2007, 07:34 PM
is any body is here to help me
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i hav asus chipset so its need agp card, can any one tell me which agp card is best, plz tell with the resent price frm cheap to high

AGP prices are higher than PCIE. One of the best deal is the Zebronics 6800XT 512 MB for 8.5k. Its good card and could standup with a 7600GT as 6800 has 256Bit 512 MB DDR3 while 7600GT has only 128bit 256MB DDR3.

keith_j_snyder2
03-03-2007, 09:20 PM
Better not use any NVidia VGA card on ur Motherboard due compatibility difference between ATI chipset and NVidia cards. There are lot no. of reports on driver conflicts and stuffs.

There is no compatibility isuues with this motherboard & the nVidia cards.Well there are compatibility issues with the motherboard but it is with the RS480M2.I have the same motherboard RS482M4 & 6800GS & running absoulutely fine with the combination.U can check my configuration in the signature.

Well u can own a 8800 & use it with ur motherboard they will work absolutely fine.
& if u still feel that there will be any compatibility issues with these ATi & nVidia chipsets,then read few benchmarkings of X-fire chipsets perfectly running nVidia cards & viceversa.

prashantmaxsteel
03-03-2007, 09:23 PM
hello friends,
my pc config is 1.86Ghz(overclocked to 2.4 Ghz with necessary cooling), VIA 8235 chipset assembled mobo with 256+512 DDR RAM and AGP 4X slot and IGP S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR.

:rolleyes: (1)Will 8x AGP card work in 4X slot (backward compatibility) ?
:rolleyes: (2)I want an AGP from Nvidia or ATI stable, with an budget and req as follows ?
1) budget <= Rs 6000/-
2) future proof ?
3) GeForce 7 series(7300,etc) would be preferred from Nvidia stable
4) significant overclocking, GDDr3 preferred, Pix Shader 3,
5) i objective is to use my comp as HTPC, low gamming console,home oriented comp.
6) Easy flashing and Direct X 9.0c upwards with 256mb/128mb

Also, I dont want to upgrade my mobo as of now. I intend to use the new upgraded comp( ie new graphics card) a little more than 2 years only!

Eagerly awaiting ur answer !!!

dOm1naTOr
03-03-2007, 10:46 PM
@prashantmaxsteel
Yes an AGP 8X card would work fine on ur 4x mobo slot. No problems nd no worries as its backward compatible with all 4x slots.

Zebronics 6800XT 512 MB DDR3 AGP is up for 8k. Its the best deal for AGP and its perfomance is better than 7600GS and comes close to 7600GT. Its a good card. Its lot better if u manage to add 2k more for this card anf yes its SM3 nd full DX 9.0c nd will be 9.0L on Vista.

ganeshdalai
03-03-2007, 11:33 PM
AGP prices are higher than PCIE. One of the best deal is the Zebronics 6800XT 512 MB for 8.5k. Its good card and could standup with a 7600GT as 6800 has 256Bit 512 MB DDR3 while 7600GT has only 128bit 256MB DDR3.

thnx aravind for ur help but i don't hav this budjet canu tel me the agp 256mb card price.......if u wanna............

prashantmaxsteel
05-03-2007, 01:23 AM
thanks for the sugestion, aravind_n20 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=4248) . i will consider it if my budget is increased. so aravind_n20 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=4248) is the same card available with 256 mb and what is its cost? any agp card with 256 mb below Rs 6K. ( the other conditions remain as it is ) ?

dOm1naTOr
05-03-2007, 10:14 PM
@prashantmaxsteel
6200 256 DDR2 is for as low as 3k, by which u can play most todays game at low settings.
6600 version has stopped production and is hardly available.
7300GT 256DDR3 AGP is a very goog card for sub 5k. Try to get it. Its perfomance is close to 6600GT.

@ganeshdalai
U can also look for the 7300GT.
7300GS AGP is available for 4k if u r low on budget/

ganeshdalai
06-03-2007, 02:14 AM
:razz: thnx very much arvind for so much help, i will be sure for this card u told me.............thnx again

dOm1naTOr
06-03-2007, 10:06 AM
@ganeshdalai
Thnx for the thnx yaar....
whats ur proccy nd how much ram do ya have?

plz rep if helpful:)

prashantmaxsteel
07-03-2007, 01:18 AM
aravind_n20,thanks for it. I will surely consider it!:D
Does palit make 7300GT for AGP? i have heard their PCI-E ver. costs 4-5k!

dOm1naTOr
07-03-2007, 02:16 AM
nup..Palit dun have 7300GT AGP, but XFX does. Its the best brand u can get from India, but will be some 5~5.5k.
http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurationDetails.jspa?series=GeForce%26tra de%3B+7300&productConfigurationId=668158#openLarger

ganeshdalai
07-03-2007, 12:25 PM
arvind in my icty this 7300 cost almost Rs7300, so its very costly to me.i hav only 512ddr ram, can ram afeect the graphics card, i need some help abt this graphics i hav no knoledge..............i think i will buy 6800 agp is this ok for me..............
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y pci-e is cost little n agp so high............

ayushsobti
07-03-2007, 10:37 PM
i've got an option between two graphic cards. which one is better: Sapphire X700 Pro 256MB DDR3 or Palit X1600Pro 256MB?

keith_j_snyder2
07-03-2007, 11:11 PM
i've got an option between two graphic cards. which one is better: Sapphire X700 Pro 256MB DDR3 or Palit X1600Pro 256MB?

The X1600 offers Shader 3.0 support and AVIVO but it's graphics performance is dismal in comparison to the X700.

X700 is the older one & its better for playing games without any trouble but X1600 is latest amoung two so it also supports most of the things.Few games now days require SM 3.0 so those games will not be listed as if u choose X700.

Well it depends upon u that what u choose.

dOm1naTOr
08-03-2007, 12:11 AM
@ayushsobti
I would recmnt u a 7600GS over a 6800 anyday even if 6800XT 512 has greater perfomance.
The G7x cores(7 series) cards as well as the 6 series cores supports SM3.0, but more advanced features like Ultra Shadow2, Real time Physics, better HDR rendering etc goes with G7x cores. So they are more future proof.

But its upto u to choose, whether u need more perfomance or better future proof.

The prices of AGPs of the cards are:
Zebronics 6800XT 512@ 8~8.5k
7600GS@7k
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@ayushsobti
Why dun u go for an nvidia based card like a 7600GS?? Its far better than 1600Pro nd the cost for PCIE is 6~6.5k.

ayushsobti
08-03-2007, 12:19 AM
can 3D MArk 05 scores of diffrerent graphic cards be compared if the graphic cards have been benchmarked on different systems with different configurations?

dOm1naTOr
08-03-2007, 12:44 AM
@ayushsobti
Search in google for benchmarks of required cards and for comparison.
Or else u can just reduce some points, say 300 to 500 for CPU.
Nyway whats ur 3D M 05 nd 06 scores??

ganeshdalai
08-03-2007, 03:11 AM
now a days all grafics card r ddr2 or ddr3 ver. does it co-operate with plane ddr ram.............can u help on this one...................

ayushsobti
08-03-2007, 08:47 AM
@ayushsobti
Search in google for benchmarks of required cards and for comparison.
Or else u can just reduce some points, say 300 to 500 for CPU.
Nyway whats ur 3D M 05 nd 06 scores??

earlier i had Nvidia 6100 onboard graphics. thta gave me a score of 438. i then got a sapphire X700Pro. 3D mark 05 gave it a score of 3300

rohan
08-03-2007, 10:07 AM
this is sort of an unusual query... I recently bought a BIG 6600 256 mb card. And after about a month of use, the fan broke. When i took the card out of the system, the fan was hanging out of the card..

that apart, i sent it for repairs, the card well under warranty, but the place where I bought it from tells me that the company is refusing to replace the fan as they are saying it is caused due to voltage fluctuation. But i have a spike protector and also have a stabilizer, so i'm sure it is not caused due to voltage fluctuation. He is also saying that he is unable to replace the fan because it is a company product. I'm not willing to trust him in any case.

Even if the company can't replace it within the warranty condition can't i just ask them to replace the fan, even if they charge something in return. The problem is that i need to know who is the retailer of BIG cards in India.

The guy at the store tells me that i'll have to replace my card. This time i better go for XFX. BIG sucks...

thanks a lot,
rohan

keith_j_snyder2
08-03-2007, 10:06 PM
now a days all grafics card r ddr2 or ddr3 ver. does it co-operate with plane ddr ram.............can u help on this one...................


I didn't exactly understand what u mean.Anyways there are 2 things

one,u r talking about the pure DDR RAM that fits in ur PC(seprate)like KINGSTON,TRASCEND,CORSAIR,OCZ etc. Well in that case buddy YES before the DDR2 every RAM was DDR1 & graphics cards work them with absolutely fine,infact this 8800 GTX or comming R600 will also works perfectly.

Second,the DDR1 RAM in graphics card aka GDDR(when it comes to graphics it will become GDDR-GRAPHIC DOUBLE DATA RATE),well there were graphics card that used to come with GDDR(does not exist but GDDR2 & GDDR3 does exist)even still few cards comes with DDR like 5200,6200 etc.
Anyways from now on if it is related to grapgics thn write GDDR otherwise write DDR.

ayushsobti
08-03-2007, 11:20 PM
i've got an option between two graphic cards. which one is better: Sapphire X700 Pro 256MB DDR3 or Palit X1600Pro 256MB?
Out of the two abovementioned cards, which would return a higher score in 3D Mark 05?

deathvirus_me
09-03-2007, 01:10 AM
Ofcourse the X1600Pro ..

mayurpam
09-03-2007, 07:24 PM
am facing some kind of prob i have xfx 5200 1 year old ,it was runnig fine till now but since a month whenever i m playing pes6 or watching video in full screen the pc freezes and hangs after hitting ctrl+alt+del only the monitor get off and keep on switching off and on in interval of time i removed the card and fixed it back also uninstalled the driver and rolled back to older one it was running fine but after a 2 to 3 day same problem occured and it also some time shows directx tests failed wen used from dxdiag Plese Help me out

ayushsobti
10-03-2007, 12:39 AM
hey deathvirus, really cool avatar!

ganeshdalai
10-03-2007, 12:46 AM
I didn't exactly understand what u mean.Anyways there are 2 things

one,u r talking about the pure DDR RAM that fits in ur PC(seprate)like KINGSTON,TRASCEND,CORSAIR,OCZ etc. Well in that case buddy YES before the DDR2 every RAM was DDR1 & graphics cards work them with absolutely fine,infact this 8800 GTX or comming R600 will also works perfectly.

Second,the DDR1 RAM in graphics card aka GDDR(when it comes to graphics it will become GDDR-GRAPHIC DOUBLE DATA RATE),well there were graphics card that used to come with GDDR(does not exist but GDDR2 & GDDR3 does exist)even still few cards comes with DDR like 5200,6200 etc.
Anyways from now on if it is related to grapgics thn write GDDR otherwise write DDR.
u didn't understand my quest but u hav the querry rigt.............thnx for clearing my doubt..........i will rember what u told to me

xbonez
10-03-2007, 02:59 AM
which would be the ideal pci-e graphic card ina budget of rs 4000? (i know the budget is really bad but i'm still in school. once i start earning, i'll make sure i add another zero to it :))

aneesh kalra
10-03-2007, 04:05 AM
For 3.1k you can get 7300gs .

sabret00the
10-03-2007, 04:59 AM
Guys any new updates on 8600 GT?Any new release dates?

keith_j_snyder2
10-03-2007, 05:52 AM
which would be the ideal pci-e graphic card ina budget of rs 4000? (i know the budget is really bad but i'm still in school. once i start earning, i'll make sure i add another zero to it :))

Well u can get 6200,7300GS,7300LE or X550,X1050(new comer),X1300

xbonez
10-03-2007, 11:50 PM
i saw an XFX 6200LE in the market with 512mb ram. would i tperform well. will the 512mb ram make a diff. or would the card be unable to utilise it?

dOm1naTOr
10-03-2007, 11:56 PM
@xbonez
Its no good than a 128 MB one. One of the ld digit issue reviewed all 64, 128 nd 256 MB versions of 6200 and there was no diff in perfomance b/w even the 64 and 256 in most of the tests. So its 100% will not use 512 MB.

For that price 4k u can get a 7300GS which is much better than a 6200.
But I wud recommend at least a 7300GT for 4.6k. Its even better than a normal 6600 256 DDR2.

sudhix
11-03-2007, 11:44 PM
Hello
I want to buy a Gfx card for my comp : AMD 64 3000+, MSI RS480M2-IL based on Raedon x200 chipset and 512 DDR 400 Ram.
Im NOT A GAMER and wont be playing ne games. Im looking for performance boost and speed gains.
My primary OS is Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 and Fedora 6. I use Winxp also. So drivers for Linux is very IMP. Also it shld be Vista compliant(for the future maybe).
Budget is arnd 4k.

Pls help

samrulez
11-03-2007, 11:52 PM
Hmm...6600LE or 6600..

sudhix
12-03-2007, 12:06 AM
Heard of the 7300gt. hows it? Which brand shld i go for???

dOm1naTOr
12-03-2007, 12:13 AM
@sudhix (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=20999)
RS480M2-IL boards wont be fully compatible with all nvidia cards. So better u get a low price future proof ATI card like the X1300. Its a SM3 card with full vista aero compatibility. As u r not a gamer, u will be more than happy with this card.

Also ur present onboard GFX is also good. It has SM2.0 support which cud run vista aero 100%. But what ull need is more ram. Nowa days its somethin like: ' the more the better'. So I recommend get another a GB memory instead of a Gcard, as u wont experience any big boost in perfomance if u get a card. The lil boost is only due to the freeing up of the shared memory from ur current 512.
Vista ultimate needs minimum of 1 GB mem. If uve 1.5Gb, then u can set 256 for video nd u can run aero smoothly.

sudhix
12-03-2007, 12:18 AM
@aravind
Tats a lot of info... thanks. Can u reccomend an ATI card then? Which brand and exact model??? Wat bout drivers for ATI gfx cards in Linux? Regarding RAM, yep ill upgrade tat too shortly.

Cheers

PS: Wats SM2 and SM3

dOm1naTOr
12-03-2007, 12:55 AM
U can go for X 1300[ pro or XT]
Pro wud have DDR2 or 3 but XT has extreme clocks for memory nd core.
1300 pro is for 4k nd XT for 5k. The 1300 pro nd XT performs equivalent to 7300 GS nd GT.
U can look for power color brand for ATI cards. And there are also MSI nd ASUS brands for ATI. ALL and good nd cool. But ASUS might be more expensive, some 500 bucks more.

SM stands for Shader Model. Vista just need any SM2.0 card nd ur onboard has it. No need to go for an SM 3.0 card if ur not a gamer.

sudhix
12-03-2007, 12:59 AM
Thanks a lot for ur help!!!

balashome
12-03-2007, 05:39 PM
@Sudhix,

I thought i ought to share my experience with setting up graphic cards in Linux.

First off, it is a huge ordeal to find appropriate drivers for ATI graphic cards for Linux. Even though Ubuntu is one of the easier distributions for graphic card installation, it still took me a whole day to get it setup. My card though is slightly exotic - an HIS X1800 GTO. And believe me, following Ubuntu's extensive documentation available on the wiki does not work in this case. So, if you are hell bent on getting ATI cards to work in Linux, be prepared to do some heavy duty browsing and of course reinstalling the OS multiple times.

However for any of the recent ATI graphic cards, you will have to download the appropriate non-free driver for gfx support in Linux. In some cases you will find pre-packaged and easy ways to set this up, while in others it is a struggle. For example, Dreamlinux is very easy and user friendly as far as graphic card support goes - it almost gives you out of the box support for all graphic cards - ATI or Nvidia. Vector Linux, Ubuntu, MEPIS and Opensuse are not far behind. Sabayon Linux needs a special mention - since its one of those rare distributions which come loaded with the non-free display drivers out of the box.

But on the other end of the spectrum, i wasnt even able to install Fedora Core 6 - no matter how hard i tried.

So if its Linux you are concerned with you are infinitely better off with an Nvidia solution. But i noticed your board is an ATI chipset. If you are really serious about Linux, then i would strongly recommend switching over to an Nvidia chipset, Core2duo processor (the X2's from AMD sometimes have problems getting recognized as dual cores in Linux - more's the pity!) and an Nvidia display card - one of the 6800's would do just fine.

But if you dont want to do a complete revamp, you can keep your processor and just change the motherboard chipset over to Nvidia and get an Nvidia display card.

But thats just my thought - you might want to look over more Linux sites like tuxmachines.org and other such similar ones.

Another quick thought - once you do get your ATI card working in Linux, make sure you take a backup of your xorg.conf file (found in your root) and save it somewhere on your Windows partition or a USB drive. That way, if you try multiple distributions like me, you always have a working copy of the xorg.conf which you can just copy in case nothing works!

All the best.

keith_j_snyder2
12-03-2007, 06:30 PM
Hello
I want to buy a Gfx card for my comp : AMD 64 3000+, MSI RS480M2-IL based on Raedon x200 chipset and 512 DDR 400 Ram.
Im NOT A GAMER and wont be playing ne games. Im looking for performance boost and speed gains.
My primary OS is Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 and Fedora 6. I use Winxp also. So drivers for Linux is very IMP. Also it shld be Vista compliant(for the future maybe).
Budget is arnd 4k.

Pls help


Dude!!!Everybody is saying right,but listen to me buddy.read this lines carefully
DO NOT USE NVIDIA CARD WITH YOUR MOTHERBOARD!!!
I used to have the same motherboard,it took me 16 months to find the problem.This chipset doesn't support nVidia graphics card.So i changed the motherboard.
drvarunmehta also have the same motherboard & he is using MSI Radeon X1600Pro.
My suggestion is buy only ATi graphics card.Doesnt matter which one but chip should be ATI.

sudhix
13-03-2007, 12:46 AM
@balashome :
I don think i upgrading the cppu and mobo is an option rite now. Next time ill buy an Nvidia chipset. I did find ATI drivers for Linux. http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
Do they work??? And yep I will backup the xorg.conf file. Also Im using FC6 for project work, I will replace it with Sabayan shortly(1 month or so). I will stick with ubuntu though.

@keith:
Ok dude. Ill buy an ATI card, mostly x1300. Not sure yet.

@both:
Thank you guys for ur suggestions. Really helpful.
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BTW I would like to ask suggestions on the foll thread which i by mistake created seperatly
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50658

nehemiah_johnyn
13-03-2007, 09:06 PM
hi guys,

I recently bought a intel g965ry motherboard with e6300 core 2 duo processor with 1 gb ram. Now the problem is i also have a 7300gs graphics card. Now i have 2 graphics solutions. One is inbuilt in the motherboard and the other is the graphics card. Now i am not sure whether which one would perform better? the one in my motherboard or the graphics card? coz if the card is of not much use then i could sell it to someone. could someone help me out on this?

chicha
14-03-2007, 10:57 PM
http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/physics/index.html


Go here and see for yourself:twisted:

balashome
15-03-2007, 09:40 PM
[QUOTE=sudhix]@balashome :
I don think i upgrading the cppu and mobo is an option rite now. Next time ill buy an Nvidia chipset. I did find ATI drivers for Linux. http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
Do they work??? And yep I will backup the xorg.conf file. Also Im using FC6 for project work, I will replace it with Sabayan shortly(1 month or so). I will stick with ubuntu though.
[QUOTE=sudhix]

@Sudhix, like i mentioned, you can find drivers for ATI cards but it is not that 'one size fits all concept'. Some of the older ATI cards can make do with a GPL driver, while the newer ones (typically X1300 and above) require a proprietary video card driver. Now, this poses problems for different distributions in different manners. Like i said you might find drivers for some while you wont for others.

I had high expectations of Sabayon, but i wouldnt say it satsified them. Its too much of a resource hog to be a functional OS.

If i was to buy a chipset and a graphic card today, i would go for NVidia - no questions asked. Its a whole lot simpler than fighting with ATI drivers and hunting forums for hours!

All the best.

sudhix
15-03-2007, 10:05 PM
@balashome

Thanks for ur help. Ill see wat i can do. Rite now i was successful in installing proprietary drivers for my present ATI Radeon. :) I think ill ask a friend for a graphics card and test, then go ahead and buy

Thanks and Cheers
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@balashome

I think u shld look at this

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52471

Still uncessful. Sabayon maybe good, but not fully upto the mark i guess. Debian is a better bet :)

dOm1naTOr
15-03-2007, 10:56 PM
@nehemiah_johnyn
One think u shud know is that if u put in any Graphics card, then your onboard one become inactive and the whlole graphics is handled by the card.
By the way an nvidia 7300GS is far far better than your onboard GFX [namely X3000]. Also the card has its own memory, so no sharing of ram. But if u unplug the card [to sell maybe] and use onboard, then some 128 or 256 MB shud be allocated got GFX from ram and your total available ram is reduced by that amount.
U can play all games out there with some low~med quality at 1024*768 res with ur card. But ur onboard gfx wont handle many of those games.

bhunnu16
16-03-2007, 12:04 AM
Hi! to all.
I have a DELL PC( Optiplex GX520) having only 1 PCI slot. I am not able to play games like NFS Carbon, POP3, FEAR1 & 2... that require graphic card. As I was not having an AGP or PCI-e slot I was disappointed. But a few days back I heard about PCI graphic cards.

Can any1 tell me whether they will work fine or not(speed, memory...) & plzz suggest any in range of Rs.4000.

dOm1naTOr
16-03-2007, 02:00 AM
@bhunnu16 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=4542)
PCI G cards are too outdated. The best deal u can get is an nvidia geforce 2MX or even some Geforce 3. But u can't play POP3,FEAr or any new games even with that. U will need at least a geforce 5 class card and some newer games say they need at least a shader model 2 card is needed[not even Geforce FX(5) series]
Anyway 4000 was enough for a card to let u play the games u specified at med-low seting IF U HAVE AN AGP OR PCIE SLOT. Also inorder to play those games, you will need at least 512 MB or more RAM[at least 768 will be needed for FEAR].

Also FEAR 2 has not yet been released. There is an expansion pack for FEAR named "Extraction Point".

So u will need a massive upgrade of the following components.
CPU, mobo, ram [some mobos onborad GFX could play those games at low setings]. So at least 10~12k is needed.

khemkarahul
16-03-2007, 09:42 AM
Hi...i recently got a Lenovo Y500 3000 series laptop...616AQ...with a core 2 dup T5500 and a Geforce go 7400....I downloaded the update for my graphic card driver from the Nvidia driver update page..."Nvidia Go 7 series update"...when i tried installing the update i was getting the error sayin that the driver didnot support the hardware....please tell me from where can i get the Graphic card driver update for my laptop...???

Go-Wide
16-03-2007, 01:18 PM
Hello everyone,

I purchased the Viewsonic VX1930wm today and I need some suggestions on a new graphics card that will handle 1440x900.

My old card, 3D Fuzion GeForce FX 5500 256MB is acting up. Which is why I bought this new monitor. I though my old 17" CRT had blown up but it was the card that was causing the problem. I needed a reason to buy the 19" HD WS LCD, so I'll use the 17" as a backup.

The 3D Fuzion card ran fine in 1440x900 resolution for a few hours and then the problem re-appeared. I replaced it with my old NVIDIA GeForce 2 64MB card and it has been running fine for the past 10 hours, in 1280x1024 resolution.

I welcome all comments.

dOm1naTOr
16-03-2007, 01:51 PM
@Go-Wide
There is a very good way, but its some expensine. The cheapest g card with 2x DVI out is 7600GT. If u get that u can have both monitor simultaneously running at different resolutions and work on each of them with different apps on each. Its very gud to have multilonitor setup. The cards comes with 2x DVI to D-sub[VGA] adapter.

Download the latest fresh driver instead of update ones. Also chech whether uve downloaded it for correct OS..

nehemiah_johnyn
16-03-2007, 01:51 PM
aravind_n20,
Thanks pal, but my 7300 gs has inbuilt 256 mb and also shares 256 mb from the system ram making it a 512 mb card while my x3000 has 384 mb shared memory.

malcolm
16-03-2007, 02:40 PM
nehemiah_johnyn
X3000 is an IGP and 7300GS is a dedicated card. So card is better than IGP.

dominatorcs
16-03-2007, 02:53 PM
Yes, what malcolm said is rite. Even if X3000 is DX 10 compatible, it sucks in gamin.

also please malcolm, if u too have x3000, then please give a list of games which cud be played smoothly with 512 MB DDR 533. I wud really like to play some NEW games like FarCry, Half Life 2 and 3.

talkaboom
17-03-2007, 04:22 AM
Hi...i recently got a Lenovo Y500 3000 series laptop...616AQ...with a core 2 dup T5500 and a Geforce go 7400....I downloaded the update for my graphic card driver from the Nvidia driver update page..."Nvidia Go 7 series update"...when i tried installing the update i was getting the error sayin that the driver didnot support the hardware....please tell me from where can i get the Graphic card driver update for my laptop...???

Hey man, sorry to hear about the problem. But you sure that you uninstalled the prev drivers before? Also in haste you may have chosen the wrong operating system. Else should go fine, or the download might have got corrupted. try re-downloading it.
Hope this helps

Go-Wide
17-03-2007, 08:04 AM
@Go-Wide
There is a very good way, but its some expensine. The cheapest g card with 2x DVI out is 7600GT. If u get that u can have both monitor simultaneously running at different resolutions and work on each of them with different apps on each. Its very gud to have multilonitor setup. The cards comes with 2x DVI to D-sub[VGA] adapter.

Download the latest fresh driver instead of update ones. Also chech whether uve downloaded it for correct OS..

Any particular brand I should be looking at? BFG, Leadtek, XFX...

TIA

dOm1naTOr
17-03-2007, 08:52 AM
@Go-Wide
Yes, brands do have a lot of difference, especially on long run. U will have a hard time finding BFG in India, so the best choice are according to preference are:
1. XFX
2. ASUS
3. LEADTEK
4. MSI
5. BIG
6. PALIT, FORSA etc.

An XFX 7600GT might cost u close to 9k with 3 year warranty.
It supports dual monitor at max resolution of 2560*1920 @ 120Hz.

Go-Wide
17-03-2007, 10:20 AM
@Go-Wide
Yes, brands do have a lot of difference, especially on long run. U will have a hard time finding BFG in India, so the best choice are according to preference are:
1. XFX
2. ASUS
3. LEADTEK
4. MSI
5. BIG
6. PALIT, FORSA etc.

An XFX 7600GT might cost u close to 9k with 3 year warranty.
It supports dual monitor at max resolution of 2560*1920 @ 120Hz.

9K :confused: Are we on the same page here?

I can buy a XFX GeForce 7600 GT 256MB dual DVI HDTV AGP card from Tiger Direct for $252.99 CDN and it comes with a lifetime warranty.

dOm1naTOr
17-03-2007, 10:40 AM
I mentioned the approximate price of XFX[ similar is the price for ASUS and Leadtek] 7600GT 256 AGP dual DVI here in Indian market.
U cannot compare Indian price with any online price.

U can even some online prices like $350 for 8800GTX which is around 17k ,but here u have to pay 30k+ with all duties and taxes. So if u ant local warranty, then u have to buy from Indian dealers at Indian price.

deathvirus_me
17-03-2007, 10:44 AM
Get the XFX one. .. costs slightly more .. but worth it .. u'r sure to hit 600/1600 out of the box ... if u want it for the HTPC get the passive cooled one ..

Go-Wide
17-03-2007, 11:32 AM
I mentioned the approximate price of XFX[ similar is the price for ASUS and Leadtek] 7600GT 256 AGP dual DVI here in Indian market.
U cannot compare Indian price with any online price.

U can even some online prices like $350 for 8800GTX which is around 17k ,but here u have to pay 30k+ with all duties and taxes. So if u ant local warranty, then u have to buy from Indian dealers at Indian price.

I understand. I keep forgetting that the person replying to my post may be in a country, other than North America. In this case, I'm in Canada.

Thank you for your help.

dOm1naTOr
18-03-2007, 05:59 PM
@Go-Wide
U can have better bang for the bucks as ur in Canada.

And go for BFG[first choice] and then XFX. BFG is a gud brand as heard. They provide better cooling and most models are some 10~20% factory oced and have normal price only.

Maverick340
20-03-2007, 08:06 PM
Hi i have a AMD 64 3000+ with a 512 MB RAM running on a Asus A8n-VM motherboard. I am planning to buy a mid range gfx card which will give me a modest frame rate on a 1024x768 resolution .Nothing fancy but yes should be able to tackle new games. Budget is 5K(max)

//Sorry for double post.

dOm1naTOr
20-03-2007, 08:23 PM
Hi, get an 7300GT[4.5k] and increase ur ram to 1GB. Ur current 512 MB wud be a bottleneck for games after uve got a card.
I recoment to stretch ur budget to 1k more and get the 7600GS which is slightly better that 6600GT.

Ambar
20-03-2007, 08:26 PM
ya 7600 Gs will be much better choice.....provided u get at least 1 GB of RAM....but dont expect too much from the 7600 Gs also..itz also a mi-low range card!

Maverick340
20-03-2007, 09:20 PM
Wouldd the low ram prove counter productive if i get a gfx card. i cant upgrade my ram right now - so is it wise to go for a gfx card ?
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Hi, get an 7300GT[4.5k] and increase ur ram to 1GB. Ur current 512 MB wud be a bottleneck for games after uve got a card.
I recoment to stretch ur budget to 1k more and get the 7600GS which is slightly better that 6600GT.
7600GS is better than 6600GT or the 7300GT. What about ATI - i heard its good with AMD systems and also costs less.

dOm1naTOr
20-03-2007, 10:52 PM
@Maverick340
U can do avg gaming with 512 MB ram but the loading times wud really make u mad, especially at higher resolutions. Some games wud also show up some lags.
I recoment just upgrade ur ram right now as ur current onboard gfx will do better if u have 1 GB ram with 256 shared. U better stick to it until low end DX10 cards like 8300 gets in our markets. So u get a good future proof card for 5k whichll sure outperform a 7600GS due to unified shader architecture. They will be launched in 2~3 months.

sabret00the
21-03-2007, 10:50 PM
Guys I'm not spreading rumours here,just heard a news and want to confirm it.Well I did some googling and found that Dx 10 cards are gonna be out on April 17th 2007.Now I have a few questions in this regard....
1)Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not?
2)Are these cards gonna be launched soon after in India as well?Or is it gonna take more time for these cards to come to India?
3)I desparately need a PCI Express graphics card as my existing gpu isnt working anymore on my primary desktop....is it worth the wait?
4)I was looking at 7600GT now that I'm looking forward to upgrading to Windows Vista,do u guys think it makes sense going for 7600GT with Vista or should one wait for 8600GT which will soon replace 7600GT?
5)My budget is within Rs.10000/- only.Do u guys think 8600GT will be priced with 10 grands or will it cost more than that?

mohit
21-03-2007, 11:14 PM
Guys I'm not spreading rumours here,just heard a news and want to confirm it.Well I did some googling and found that Dx 10 cards are gonna be out on April 17th 2007.Now I have a few questions in this regard....
1)Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not?
2)Are these cards gonna be launched soon after in India as well?Or is it gonna take more time for these cards to come to India?
3)I desparately need a PCI Express graphics card as my existing gpu isnt working anymore on my primary desktop....is it worth the wait?
4)I was looking at 7600GT now that I'm looking forward to upgrading to Windows Vista,do u guys think it makes sense going for 7600GT with Vista or should one wait for 8600GT which will soon replace 7600GT?
5)My budget is within Rs.10000/- only.Do u guys think 8600GT will be priced with 10 grands or will it cost more than that?
1. DX 10 cards are already out. The 8800GTS and GTX are DX 10 cards. You must be talking about the 8600 series. Well I dont expect it to be in India before May [minimum].

2. It usually takes 2-3 weeks after the international launch for the cards to reach and be well stocked in India.

3. The wait is worth it if you can wait.

4. Vista will easily run on even a 6200TC card provided you have enough RAM. You really dont need a 8600 series card just for running Vista.

5. I dont think you will get any DX 10 cards for 10k in India for sometime now.

g_goyal2000
22-03-2007, 12:05 AM
What is the difference between nVidia Quadro & GeForce GPU's? Which one is better for gaming? I'm not talking about any specific model no..

dOm1naTOr
22-03-2007, 12:11 AM
@sabret00the
u can opt for an 8600 GS when they are out. There is enough juice in them to outperforn a 7600GT with ease and itll be under 10k. If u can wait a bit longer [say upto june] u can witness some battle b/w 8950 and R600. There will be low nd mid range cards also from ATI and the price will drop. Its worth the wait.

Just get a second hand 6200 till then or even a new one and sell it when ur dream cards are out.

mohit
22-03-2007, 12:13 AM
What is the difference between nVidia Quadro & GeForce GPU's? Which one is better for gaming? I'm not talking about any specific model no..

Quadro cards are meant for 3D and rendering purposes mainly. Geforce series are the ones which are meant for gaming.

Dont buy a Quadro card for gaming.

sabret00the
22-03-2007, 12:32 AM
@Mohit & aravind_n20 : thnx guys for helping me decide.I guess for the time being I'll go for a low end GPU as I need one desparately coz my mobo dont have integrated video....and when Dx10 cards are out(which I'm sure isnt going to be in the next 3-4months) I can sell it off.

dOm1naTOr
22-03-2007, 12:55 AM
@g_goyal2000
A quadro is good for gaming too, but has less bang for the buch when used for gaming. They are not optimised for gaming , but some high end Quadros is pretty much powerful that the best gaming cards our there. But they comes at insane cost.
Also Quadro cards has many other features both H/W nd S/W. That is it supports much more complex features like wireframe antialiasing, pixel doubling, remapping, resampling and much more. Those effects are not used in any of the games. If used them most of the powerful cards including 8800 wud come to its knees or maybe they will not be able to render those at all.

If u have enuf bucks then get the most powerful quadro. Itll serve u well in games as well as for animation.

monkey
22-03-2007, 06:50 PM
Hey guys, check out the prices at of vga cards at www.yantraonline.in
Collection - seems gud: XFX, MSI, Leadtek, GeCube, Point of View (?)
Prices - NO IDEA

xbonez
22-03-2007, 07:29 PM
a friend of mine is choosing between two cards the geforce 7100GS and the 7300LE. which would be recommended?

dOm1naTOr
22-03-2007, 08:05 PM
@xbonez
A 7100 cores lacks many features like HDR rendering, bloom, and 1080p or i HD resolution decoding etc. Its a bare minimum card with SM3.0 and its perfomance will be very poor. A 7300LE seems to be much better. But why not spend some extra 500 bucks and get a 7300GS???Itll make a gr8 difference.

sabret00the
22-03-2007, 08:34 PM
As of right now I have decided to purchase a 7600GT card for the time being as I'm in an urgent need for a graphics card.Will sell of the card once I get hold of a 8600GT/GTS.
---
Multiple Queries here :-
1)I have a Samsung 940BW with HDCP support so can anyone tell me whether 8600GT/GTS cards will support HDCP or not?Will the same monitor support HDMI?
2)Will the 8600GT/GTS work in SLI mode?

Ambar
22-03-2007, 09:44 PM
As of right now I have decided to purchase a 7600GT card for the time being as I'm in an urgent need for a graphics card.Will sell of the card once I get hold of a 8600GT/GTS.
---
Multiple Queries here :-
1)I have a Samsung 940BW with HDCP support so can anyone tell me whether 8600GT/GTS cards will support HDCP or not?Will the same monitor support HDMI?
2)Will the 8600GT/GTS work in SLI mode?

as of question no.2 they'll surely work in SLI mode and so will the 7600 GT!!!!

dOm1naTOr
22-03-2007, 09:57 PM
@sabret00the
As of my knowledge, ive seen 2x DVI connector and an S-video out at back of the 8600GTS from BFG.
Use the DVI out of the card to connect to ur SAM 940B. Its also good quality and standard one.
And why are u going for a 7600GT just for 1 or 2 months. The more costlier the card, the more loss ull have while selling it. SO have a 7300GT or at max a 7600GS. Why waste extra bucks for just 2 months.

sabret00the
22-03-2007, 10:01 PM
^^^ hey guys thnx for the help so u suggest going for a base line card like 6200 etc for the time being till I get my hands on a 8600GTS...well I guess thats a very good idea...will go for it I guess

xsreality
22-03-2007, 11:14 PM
guys, i wanted to know whether i wud b able to play games like NFS Most Wanted, Carbon, Rainbow Six Vegas etc with 7600GT and 7600GS (separately..not in SLI mode!) ? what is current price of dis card?

Ambar
23-03-2007, 09:47 AM
ya all games will work at good detail settings....the 7600gt will cost u around 10 k (XFX)..and the 7600 gs will cost u arnd..6.5 k!!!

xsreality
23-03-2007, 09:56 AM
ya all games will work at good detail settings....the 7600gt will cost u around 10 k (XFX)..and the 7600 gs will cost u arnd..6.5 k!!!

r u sure abt 7600gt? i thought it wud be around 7.5k...hmm..considering that DX10 cards r around d corner..which wud b d cheapest grfx card which wil allow me to play d above games in full details?

kapal83
23-03-2007, 12:59 PM
XFX 7600GT will cost you a bit more because it has Engine clk-590MHz and Memory clk-1600MHz as against 560 &1400 of any other manufacturers + it has Zalman Fan as heatsink and its damn cool. Apart from that check out the Fata1ty 7600GT which is the best grfx in the world. DX10 anyways will launch next month but prices will start from 15K for 8600.

g_goyal2000
23-03-2007, 12:59 PM
Hey guys, check out the prices at of vga cards at www.yantraonline.in (http://www.yantraonline.in)
Collection - seems gud: XFX, MSI, Leadtek, GeCube, Point of View (?)
Prices - NO IDEAAren't the prices on this a little (or shall I say very) inflated? I mean it's telling the prices of motherboards in 10k+.

kapal83
23-03-2007, 01:02 PM
As of right now I have decided to purchase a 7600GT card for the time being as I'm in an urgent need for a graphics card.Will sell of the card once I get hold of a 8600GT/GTS.
---
Multiple Queries here :-
1)I have a Samsung 940BW with HDCP support so can anyone tell me whether 8600GT/GTS cards will support HDCP or not?Will the same monitor support HDMI?
2)Will the 8600GT/GTS work in SLI mode?

They'll work even in single mode.

xbonez
23-03-2007, 01:08 PM
i have a palit X1600 pro 256mb graphic card. how can i overclock it? the ati catalyst control centre does not have an option for overclocking
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here's a little complicated question. plz try to help. i have a palit X1600 pro and a Samsung 55V monitor which supports a mx resolution of 1024x768. i by mistake set the screen resolution from ati catalyst control centre to a higher rsolution. as soon as i did this my monitor stopped displaying. when i restarted my comp i started getting display normally but now whenever i start ati catalyst control centre, the monitor stops giving display. i guess this is because whenever i start it, the gfx card starts giving a resolution my monitor doesn't support. as a result of this, i can't use the ati catalyst control centre. what do i do to reset the screen resolution in the ati catalyst control centre back to 1024x768. plz remember that i cannot start up the software.

keith_j_snyder2
23-03-2007, 11:07 PM
Guys don't buy the 7 series coz low-mid end DX10 range is around the corner!!!A little wait will give u better performance & future proof support.
__________
i have a palit X1600 pro 256mb graphic card. how can i overclock it? the ati catalyst control centre does not have an option for overclocking
__________
here's a little complicated question. plz try to help. i have a palit X1600 pro and a Samsung 55V monitor which supports a mx resolution of 1024x768. i by mistake set the screen resolution from ati catalyst control centre to a higher rsolution. as soon as i did this my monitor stopped displaying. when i restarted my comp i started getting display normally but now whenever i start ati catalyst control centre, the monitor stops giving display. i guess this is because whenever i start it, the gfx card starts giving a resolution my monitor doesn't support. as a result of this, i can't use the ati catalyst control centre. what do i do to reset the screen resolution in the ati catalyst control centre back to 1024x768. plz remember that i cannot start up the software.


Dude the simple solution turn the resolution to 1024*768 from diaplay properties.And if this doesn't work then uninstall CCC & delete all the settings from ur system & reinstall the CCC.

g_goyal2000
23-03-2007, 11:13 PM
here's a little complicated question. plz try to help. i have a palit X1600 pro and a Samsung 55V monitor which supports a mx resolution of 1024x768. i by mistake set the screen resolution from ati catalyst control centre to a higher rsolution. as soon as i did this my monitor stopped displaying. when i restarted my comp i started getting display normally but now whenever i start ati catalyst control centre, the monitor stops giving display. i guess this is because whenever i start it, the gfx card starts giving a resolution my monitor doesn't support. as a result of this, i can't use the ati catalyst control centre. what do i do to reset the screen resolution in the ati catalyst control centre back to 1024x768. plz remember that i cannot start up the software. First, uninstall u'r ATI catalyst drivers. Then download the ATI Catalyst driver uninstaller if still problem exists.
Goto this link. It may help u.
http://www.playtool.com/pages/uninstallgraphics/uninstall.html

xsreality
24-03-2007, 10:55 AM
Guys don't buy the 7 series coz low-mid end DX10 range is around the corner!!!A little wait will give u better performance & future proof support.

but i m upgrading my comp and so i wud hv to buy a grfx card..and anyway it wil take some time 4 prices of DX10 cards to fall...which cheapest grfx card shud i go for in order to play games like NFS MW, Carbon etc...?

dOm1naTOr
24-03-2007, 12:50 PM
@xsreality
U can't expect a sub 5k DX 10 cards in 2007 at least or it will be some nov or dec when they ll be available for such low prices.
So if u are not ready to wait then get the 7600GS for 6k if PCIE or 7k if AGP.
If u are low on budget then a 7300GS for 4k or 7300GT for 5k.

keith_j_snyder2
24-03-2007, 10:30 PM
but i m upgrading my comp and so i wud hv to buy a grfx card..and anyway it wil take some time 4 prices of DX10 cards to fall...which cheapest grfx card shud i go for in order to play games like NFS MW, Carbon etc...?

Dude its all u.If u think u can buy it now & within another 3-4 months if u see the DX10 card with the almost same price,then the only one crying will be u!!!
Or if u can afford to change it later then its fine,buy anything whatever u want.U see when i bought my 6800 GS 236MB, it was the only card that suits my budget but i when visited to the dealer after 2 months of purchase,i saw 680GS 512MB for the same price.That was the time i felt that how dumb i was,but i wasn't able to do anything so i stucked with my little one & thought that i will never do such kind of mistake again.My dealer told me about the 512 MB version but i was stupid enough that i didn't listened him.

ssugadhanam
24-03-2007, 10:33 PM
Hey man!!!! Any body can suggest me a good graphics car from ATI or NVIDIA. I don`t need any other. I am having HP d330 desktop pc. I have just upgraded my Ram from 256 Mb to 1 Gb. Please help me, its URGENT!!!!!!!!Budget is not a problem at all.(ANY COST IS O.K.)!!!!!!!!

dOm1naTOr
24-03-2007, 11:20 PM
@ssugadhanam
If budget is not a problem, then the choice is virtually unlimited.
I think that u have an AGP port. So what u canb have is:

nvidia 6200 256: 2.8k
6600GT: 6k
7300GT: 5.5k
7600GS: 7k
7600GT: 9.5k
7800GT : 13k
7900GS: 13.5k
7900GT : 15k
X1800 Pro : 12k
X1800XT : 14k
X1900 Pro : 16k

These are all estimated price. This may vary lil bit with factors like brand, location, model, bundles etc.

Also if u look for a card above a 7600GT, do consider to again upgrade ur ram to higher like 2GB as 1GB wud be a big bottleneck with high end cards. But ur proccy and memory bandwidth are already bottleneck.
For serious gaming, an overall upgrade is recommented.

xsreality
24-03-2007, 11:31 PM
Dude its all u.If u think u can buy it now & within another 3-4 months if u see the DX10 card with the almost same price,then the only one crying will be u!!!

hey keith, i agree with u bt dats what d challenge of upgrading pc's! for me, i m quite sure that i wont b worrying abt my pc for atleast 18months!! DX10 cards are worth waiting for, no doubt...bt at present i hv nly on-board grfx...and since i m upgrading my comp...compromising on my mobo just to wait 4 d grfx card is also not a gud option..
nvr mind frnd..in most cases 256MB cards r better than their 512MB counterparts! and d gud thing abt upgradation mistakes is dat the pain is short lived!:)
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@xsreality
U can't expect a sub 5k DX 10 cards in 2007 at least or it will be some nov or dec when they ll be available for such low prices.
So if u are not ready to wait then get the 7600GS for 6k if PCIE or 7k if AGP.
If u are low on budget then a 7300GS for 4k or 7300GT for 5k.

does the XFX 7600GS have DVI port and wil it b able to handle a 19" Widescreen TFT resolution of 1440x960...?

sabret00the
24-03-2007, 11:40 PM
^^ ur computer is a HP Compaq Business Desktop d330 Series.As per manufacturer's specifications (http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11647_ca/11647_ca.HTML) your computer has a 8X AGP slot so I would suggest you to go for a XFX NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGP 8X 512MB DDR3
(PV-T71A-YDL3) if price is not a factor for u.......that's the best u may get for ur money......but having said that Dx10 cards knocking at the corner I think spending a fortune of a Dx9 AGP (non PCI-E) video card is sheer stupidity.......further if u wanna retain ur computer and just wanna add a Graphics card for mid range apps and playing almost all games u may choose a XFX NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB DDR3
(PV-T73A-UDE3, PV-T73A-UDE7) or a Zebronics GeForce7600 GS 256 MB DDR2 AGP 8x HD TV-Out/D-Sub/DVI (Rs.4500-6000/-)

xsreality
25-03-2007, 12:11 AM
^^ ur computer is a HP Compaq Business Desktop d330 Series.As per manufacturer's specifications (http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11647_ca/11647_ca.HTML) your computer has a 8X AGP slot so I would suggest you to go for a XFX NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGP 8X 512MB DDR3
(PV-T71A-YDL3) if price is not a factor for u.......that's the best u may get for ur money......but having said that Dx10 cards knocking at the corner I think spending a fortune of a Dx9 AGP (non PCI-E) video card is sheer stupidity.......further if u wanna retain ur computer and just wanna add a Graphics card for mid range apps and playing almost all games u may choose a XFX NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB DDR3
(PV-T73A-UDE3, PV-T73A-UDE7) or a Zebronics GeForce7600 GS 256 MB DDR2 AGP 8x HD TV-Out/D-Sub/DVI (Rs.4500-6000/-)

hey u referring to me with dat computer..? then u r misguided coz i hv an assembled pc..(on which i m typing all dis!). my current config is not worth mentioning bt its sumthing like dis...
intel P4 1.7GHz processor..on VIA Chipset mobo...
onboard grfx..S3ProSavage DDr..probably i hv AGP slot...bt nt sure..
Tiny Seagate 40GB HDD (2% free space)
256MB DDRI RAM...(or mayb SD? nt sure!)

u hv given me a new thought...bt seriously wil 7600GS or 7600GT make any difference to games? i too seriously wud like to wait 4 DX10 bt my PC needs upgradation..

i agree spending on AGP is foolishness bt in my upgradation i was thinking of ASUS P5N-E SLI mobo which has PCI slots..so nw wht wud u recommend? this is d config i m planning on upgrading...
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52871

sabret00the
25-03-2007, 12:58 AM
@ xsreality :- sorry bro my answer was meant for "ssugadhanam" didnt see that u had posted inbetween...I apologise!!!

xsreality
25-03-2007, 11:59 AM
No problem dude! [:)]

Maverick340
25-03-2007, 06:33 PM
Well i do need a gfx card now. I am not in a need to buy a future proof card. If req ill buy one later on. At this stage i think ill go for Nvdia 7300GT. Does ATi have any card under the 5 K range which is better ? Also which drand shud i go in for ?

keith_j_snyder2
25-03-2007, 07:12 PM
^^^X1600 or 1650 series are same as 7600 series.1650 would be a better choice than 1600.1650XT should be the best, don't know the price.

Ambar
26-03-2007, 09:54 AM
hey i was wondering if BFG cards are available in INDIA????

anilthomas26
26-03-2007, 03:02 PM
which is the minimun & best compatible motherboard for Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX?

darklord
26-03-2007, 03:54 PM
which is the minimun & best compatible motherboard for Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX?

Any motherboard with PCIe 16X slot ;)

hey i was wondering if BFG cards are available in INDIA????
No they are not available.

prashantmaxsteel
26-03-2007, 11:37 PM
What is the correct pricing for GeForce 7300GT AGP 256Mb graphics card in Lamington Road,Mumbai.

I asked at some shops. Some were saying Rs5.4k, Rs 4.8k ???????:confused:
My friend was told somthing in Rs3.8K ????

Can anyone plz tell me the real price and a good reliable shop !!! Plz Plz!

xbonez
27-03-2007, 04:51 PM
i've got an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Asus A8N VM mb and 1gb 400Mhz ram. i've got a sapphire X1600pro 256mb gfx card. the ati catalyst control centre bundled along does not provide facility for ioverclocking. how can i overclock my gfx card

darklord
27-03-2007, 05:19 PM
i've got an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Asus A8N VM mb and 1gb 400Mhz ram. i've got a sapphire X1600pro 256mb gfx card. the ati catalyst control centre bundled along does not provide facility for ioverclocking. how can i overclock my gfx card

go here ----> www.ati.com

dload latest version of Catalyst drivers and you are all set

You can also try ATI Tool ;)

keith_j_snyder2
27-03-2007, 05:52 PM
go here ----> www.ati.com (http://www.ati.com)

dload latest version of Catalyst drivers and you are all set

You can also try ATI Tool ;)

They only provide display drivers.But for overclocking u need ATI Tool.Download it from http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725

darklord
27-03-2007, 06:48 PM
They only provide display drivers.But for overclocking u need ATI Tool.Download it from http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725

ATI Catalyst Control Center has Overdrive feature,through which you can do mild overclocking..

prakhar18
27-03-2007, 07:01 PM
hey can some one tell me the prices of all the Nvida graphix cards...suggest me some good graphix cards for games also..I play NFS, FIFA etc...

aryayush
27-03-2007, 08:10 PM
Budget = Rs. 5,000.

Which card?

samrulez
27-03-2007, 10:03 PM
PCIe or AGP?

Ok..lemme guess..
AGP--->6600GT5.5k or 6600 3.2k
PCIe-->7600GS 5.8k or 7300GT ~4.5k

Maverick340
27-03-2007, 11:10 PM
yep i am buying a 7300gt too. Best under the 5K budget

keith_j_snyder2
28-03-2007, 01:08 AM
ATI Catalyst Control Center has Overdrive feature,through which you can do mild overclocking..

note:-u said "MILD".Well with this Ati tool one can do a mild or hardcore overclocking.And every overclocker suggest this tool.So,get something that is tested & trusted.

darklord
28-03-2007, 10:52 AM
^^ Bottomline is ,it allows overclocking,end of discussion. Agreed that ATI Tool is best,even i use it but that doesnt mean Overdrive in the Control Panel is useless.Its best suited for newbies.

slash_89
28-03-2007, 01:20 PM
hi guys,
i have an nvidia geforce 6150 gpu,
how can i overclock this gpu?

i have installed vista ultimate,
and i have downloaded the latest drivers from the nvidia site,
how do i enable the aero interface?

ancientrites
28-03-2007, 02:48 PM
guys, just 2day morning i phoned zebronics headquarter(chennai) regarding zebronics 7950gx2 i gb graphic card.schocking reply given by customer care was they were not aware nor no idea about their latest graphic card and couldnt be found in the stock.how humilating it could ve been but peace of mind they also sale leadtek graphic cards which cost 34000+4%tax for leadtek 7950gx2 gb i found it fair enough.finally i m gonna order it from bangalore branch.i feel really happy now.

hehehe quoting myself.with lots of thoughts i decided not to buy 7950 gx2,nor asus board nor updating to core 2 duo processor due to financial crise.

anyways tummorrow or day after i am gonna show you all my new leadtek 8800 gtx card.upgrading graphic card from 6800 gs was must.at present my pc configuration sucks intel p4 2.66 ghz,asus p5n32-sli deluxe mobo,2gb transcend 512*4 ddr2 ram,250 gb hdd,zeb720watts(diamond panther series),creative audigy4 soundcard(with remote control),zebronics cabinet geforce case black,17 inch monitor,rombhus 2.1 speaker,dvd writer.

i know all of you must be thinking why i havent upgraded my good old processor.well not now if i am going to upgrade my processor to intel core 2 duo then i will have to upgrade my mobo too becuase my current mobo will not support core 2 duo processor:(

aryayush
28-03-2007, 05:55 PM
PCIe or AGP?

Ok..lemme guess..
AGP--->6600GT5.5k or 6600 3.2k
PCIe-->7600GS 5.8k or 7300GT ~4.5kThanks, samrulez! So I have to choose between 7300 and 7600. OK. :)

yep i am buying a 7300gt too. Best under the 5K budgetThanks! :)

ssugadhanam
28-03-2007, 10:45 PM
@ssugadhanam
If budget is not a problem, then the choice is virtually unlimited.
I think that u have an AGP port. So what u canb have is:

nvidia 6200 256: 2.8k
6600GT: 6k
7300GT: 5.5k
7600GS: 7k
7600GT: 9.5k
7800GT : 13k
7900GS: 13.5k
7900GT : 15k
X1800 Pro : 12k
X1800XT : 14k
X1900 Pro : 16k

These are all estimated price. This may vary lil bit with factors like brand, location, model, bundles etc.

Also if u look for a card above a 7600GT, do consider to again upgrade ur ram to higher like 2GB as 1GB wud be a big bottleneck with high end cards. But ur proccy and memory bandwidth are already bottleneck.
For serious gaming, an overall upgrade is recommented.

Hey man thanks for the info but am not interested in AGP Card `coz i have heard that they share the main memory(AM I RIGHT????). I need and PCIe card and plz let me know if my system will support it or not!!!!!! ( THink u remember my model its HP Compaq d330). Thanks once again for the help.

sabret00the
28-03-2007, 10:55 PM
Hey man thanks for the info but am not interested in AGP Card `coz i have heard that they share the main memory(AM I RIGHT????). I need and PCIe card and plz let me know if my system will support it or not!!!!!! ( THink u remember my model its HP Compaq d330). Thanks once again for the help.

negative - ur computer dosent support PCI E graphics card so u will have to settle down for a AGP 8x GPU instead.

Maverick340
28-03-2007, 11:41 PM
hi guys,
i have an nvidia geforce 6150 gpu,
how can i overclock this gpu?

i have installed vista ultimate,
and i have downloaded the latest drivers from the nvidia site,
how do i enable the aero interface?
6150 .. thats the one on a Asus A8N-CMS i think. Well A8N-VM cant be overclocked. not very sure about CSM, i think no but again do confirm.
To enable aero right click the desktop , go under appearances. you should find it there.

xbonez
29-03-2007, 03:14 AM
@slash_89
geforce 6150 is the integrated graphics that comes with motherboards with an nVIDIA 6150 chipset (eg. Asus A8NVM-CSM). this is merely onboard graphics so forget about overclocking it since it isn't a dedicated GPU. you could try increasing the shared RAM with ur graphics fromt the bios if u have sufficient ram. or u could try overclocking ur cpu but this won't bring about a major diff in ur graphics subsys

i have a sapphire X1600 pro 256mb DDR2 gfx card which i bought just a week back. i've got rivetuner and use it to overclock my card. during intense gaming like FEAR and NFS CARBON what should the temp of my card be without spoiling it in the long run? also how much should i set my fan duty % cycle at?

Red_Baron
29-03-2007, 05:24 PM
I am getting XFX GeForce 8800 GTS XXX Edition 320 MB card from US.
Is 400 watts SMPS good enough for it?

ancientrites
29-03-2007, 08:08 PM
I am getting XFX GeForce 8800 GTS XXX Edition 320 MB card from US.
Is 400 watts SMPS good enough for it?
depend upon the brand i did suggest you anything above 450 watts

hey guys heres my new graphic card leadtek px8800 gtx tdh pics.its not clear blame it on my webcam
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00008-1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00007-1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00006.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00005.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00004-1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00003-1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00002.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00001.jpg

i just want to share my happiness with all of you heheheheh

emailaatif786
29-03-2007, 09:01 PM
[IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/jassim_arabi/Frame00005.jpg
What is that black plug here in your FOURTH picture.
Kindly explain?

ancientrites
29-03-2007, 09:41 PM
its a dvi to vga adoptor

keith_j_snyder2
29-03-2007, 10:10 PM
Congrats dude u did a great purchase!!!Well about the power supply i suggest any above or equal 500Watts because the min. requirement is 425 Watt.U should buy a 500+ watt PSU because there will be another components like processor,RAM etc. which need power.So best id to get a PSU of 500 & above.

xbonez
29-03-2007, 10:54 PM
i have a sapphire X1600 pro 256mb DDR2 gfx card which i bought just a week back. i've got rivetuner and use it to overclock my card. during intense gaming like FEAR and NFS CARBON what should the temp of my card be without spoiling it in the long run? also how much should i set my fan duty % cycle at?

ancientrites
30-03-2007, 11:42 AM
Congrats dude u did a great purchase!!!Well about the power supply i suggest any above or equal 500Watts because the min. requirement is 425 Watt.U should buy a 500+ watt PSU because there will be another components like processor,RAM etc. which need power.So best id to get a PSU of 500 & above.

thanx keith,well i have zebronics 720 watts.the worry factor is my good old intel pentium 2.66 ghz

keith_j_snyder2
30-03-2007, 11:58 AM
^^Well its ok,720W is the something on u can run SLI!!!If u wanna upgrade ur processor then wait for the big price slash from INTEL & AMD.Its the end of fiscal year & there is always price cuts after Fiscal ends.Ur processor is not a problem.Well there is a chance of bottlenecking but i don't think so.

wnns13
31-03-2007, 08:39 AM
Will Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Thief III Work On My Computer?

My System:
Nvidia Geforce Mx 4000 PCI (not Express!) (I am getting a ATI Radeon 9250- -PCI Not Express)
256 Ram
Intel Celoron 2.93ghz

Thank You In Advance

emailaatif786
31-03-2007, 11:47 AM
its a dvi to vga adoptor
Can I get a "Game Port to USB" or "Game Port to Serial" adapter, and what would be its cost.

emailaatif786
31-03-2007, 11:48 AM
its a dvi to vga adoptor
Can I get a "Game Port to USB" or "Game Port to Serial" adapter, and what would be its cost.

ancientrites
31-03-2007, 12:26 PM
Can I get a "Game Port to USB" or "Game Port to Serial" adapter, and what would be its cost.

i dont have one:(

thunderbird.117
31-03-2007, 12:45 PM
Will Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Thief III Work On My Computer?

My System:
Nvidia Geforce Mx 4000 PCI (not Express!) (I am getting a ATI Radeon 9250- -PCI Not Express)
256 Ram
Intel Celoron 2.93ghz

Thank You In Advance

No, Your system is very slow to play Chaos Theory if not it will never start because you dont have the minimum reqs. Has for thief i think you can play. Iam not sure about it. Also celeron is not all meant for gaming. It mostly meant for office.

Maverick340
31-03-2007, 01:13 PM
a x1600 pro and a geforce 7300GT . which is a better performer. ?
Digit in its last years Oct issue put x1600 in midrange and 7300GT in entry range.

Ambar
31-03-2007, 06:38 PM
the 7300 gt is performes better than the x1600..according so most comparisons between the two..but the x1600 is better for over clocking!

rinks
31-03-2007, 10:11 PM
hello ... well i ve ati x800gt 256 ddr3 pci express card on asus a8vm-se model motherboard .... last time i was gettign flicks on tv ....as i ve connected tv wid pc ....for watching movies nd all .... bt after when i ve reinstalled ma windows again den dere`z no dispaly coming on tv ... m using ati catalyst 7.3 .. so cud u plzzz tllme wat`z prob ? ........................ plzzzzzzzzzzz helpp me out ... evn ma tv nd cable is ok ....... i ve tested cable wid ma laptop . nd it was working fine ..... ...... plzzzzzzzzzz help me out .........

keith_j_snyder2
01-04-2007, 01:01 AM
hello ... well i ve ati x800gt 256 ddr3 pci express card on asus a8vm-se model motherboard .... last time i was gettign flicks on tv ....as i ve connected tv wid pc ....for watching movies nd all .... bt after when i ve reinstalled ma windows again den dere`z no dispaly coming on tv ... m using ati catalyst 7.3 .. so cud u plzzz tllme wat`z prob ? ........................ plzzzzzzzzzzz helpp me out ... evn ma tv nd cable is ok ....... i ve tested cable wid ma laptop . nd it was working fine ..... ...... plzzzzzzzzzz help me out .........


Hmmm...7.3 are the latest drivers.Did u tried the older version?There are possibilities with the latest drivers.I had faced the same problem with my old 6200 when i atteched it to TV but it all been rectified by swaping the AV cables.Try these 2,worked for me!!!

rinks
01-04-2007, 07:13 PM
well i ve tried dat tooooo .. bt nthing happend .......:( ....... plzzz help me out over here ... evn i ve tried old versions of drivers tooo .... bt nthing happend nd even i ve installd ma windows again nd again toooooo ..................................:confused: wat to do ?????????

Red_Baron
03-04-2007, 01:27 PM
If I get a GPU from US can I get warentee here in India?
I am getting XFX GeForce 8800 GTS XXX 320 MB card from US.
In case of any problem can I get it fixed here in India? Or do I
need to send it back to US for repairs?

keith_j_snyder2
03-04-2007, 03:37 PM
well i ve tried dat tooooo .. bt nthing happend .......:( ....... plzzz help me out over here ... evn i ve tried old versions of drivers tooo .... bt nthing happend nd even i ve installd ma windows again nd again toooooo ..................................:confused: wat to do ?????????


Just what i thought the new 7.3 drivers gives BSOD & its confirmed.Use old drivers & reconfigure the settings as per the manual.

prakhar18
03-04-2007, 05:16 PM
hey guys can u suggest me good AGP and PCI(not express) based cards under 6k...tell me the brand also..

ancientrites
03-04-2007, 06:16 PM
If I get a GPU from US can I get warentee here in India?
I am getting XFX GeForce 8800 GTS XXX 320 MB card from US.
In case of any problem can I get it fixed here in India? Or do I
need to send it back to US for repairs?

was it second time u r asking the question.well definately NO you cant get it fixed here

hey guys can u suggest me good AGP and PCI(not express) based cards under 6k...tell me the brand also..

zebronics

xbonez
03-04-2007, 11:33 PM
i have a sapphire X1600 pro 256mb DDR2 gfx card which i bought just a week back. i've got rivetuner and use it to overclock my card. during intense gaming like FEAR and NFS CARBON what should the temp of my card be without spoiling it in the long run? also how much should i set my fan duty % cycle at?

sabret00the
04-04-2007, 10:49 AM
Question to guys who have got graphics card or motherboards brought or sent from the USA or abroad:-

I got lots of friends and brothers in the USA so can anybody tell me if I ask them to buy a graphics card and ask them to send it to me via post then,
1)how much shud it cost to send it from the US?
2)is it legal to send a graphics card via courier from the US to India?
3)will it be safe to send it this way considering its too fragile for transit?
4)does the sender needs to take off the packaging before sending it?

Again,say if a friend is coming over then can he bring say,a graphics card or a motherboard on a flight from US to India?Will they let him board the flight with these things?If yes,then shud the things be in hand luggage or sealed baggage?any chances of the cards,etc getting damaged if brought in sealed baggage?again,does the person bringing these things needs to break the seal of the package?

End of the day do u think its gonna be price efficient?

keith_j_snyder2
04-04-2007, 11:00 AM
Dude just a couple of months ago my friend returned from DC & i told him to buy a SAPPHIRE X1900 GT from newegg.com because they don't deliver in Asian countries.So he ordered it from newegg and just because of the custom duty he sold that card to one of his friend in USA.The only thing is when u buy a packed piece of hardware then the duty on it is very high.Almost same as the cost of the card in INDIA.Besides this there are warranty issues also there.I 've seen many people with their fried hardware & checking the wholesalers & retailers to replace their hardware but their is no use.

If such thing is possible than everyone would have bought from abroad.Its almost half the price on newegg.com

vivekbabbudelhi
04-04-2007, 11:06 AM
well i ve tried dat tooooo .. bt nthing happend .......:( ....... plzzz help me out over here ... evn i ve tried old versions of drivers tooo .... bt nthing happend nd even i ve installd ma windows again nd again toooooo ..................................:confused: wat to do ?????????


brother
windows is a bull sh#t there
every time windows logs it changes resolution so u get screwed
boot in vga mode through tvout by pressing f8 during win boot up to check ur gfx cards tvout

also you can install geexbox to watch movies on tv
its has excellent interface im also using it on geforce 6150 mobo try it

ranjan2001
04-04-2007, 11:48 AM
1)how much shud it cost to send it from the US? shipping via USPS should be around 1200 to 2000/- depending upon its weight. http://www.usps.com/tools/calculatepostage/welcome.htm

2)is it legal to send a graphics card via courier from the US to India? for personal use its perfectly legal
3)will it be safe to send it this way considering its too fragile for transit? If its paked with buble wrap or thermo balls then it shuld be perfect, make sure nothing shakes in the packing.
4)does the sender needs to take off the packaging before sending it? Not really but ask them to mark it as gift.

THe peak custom duty on IT products is 21% plus some 4% levies so it still cheaper to get from abroad but yes the warranty is an issue, to get warranty u have to ship at ur cost back to them.

Else its better if someone can bring along as there will be no custom duty on personal baggage upto 25000/-

sabret00the
04-04-2007, 12:00 PM
@ keith_j_snyder2 & ranjan2001 thnx a lot.
Now I have another question,say if my friend brings the card in a packet after taking it out of the box then can he bring it with his hand/cabin luggage...has anyone done this before?I'm scared if he brings it in the baggage compartment the pcb might break due to pressure..u see?Well,I'm not concerned about warranty if I get it very cheap...thnx in advance

rahul_becks23
04-04-2007, 12:01 PM
i think i'll buy an 8800gtx from here ........ US will cost too much i think in the long run ....... :)

ranjan2001
04-04-2007, 01:55 PM
Yes he can bring as a hand baggage fully box packed item for personal use but if the card is properly packed then it wont break in any way even in luggage.

I have got a camera like that, my laptop like that.....no issues in custom.......................laptop even above Rs 25000/- are allowed free of duty for personal use.

Gone are the days custom people use to harass travelers, now know the rules & travel King style.

xbonez
04-04-2007, 02:43 PM
i have a sapphire X1600 pro 256mb DDR2 gfx card which i bought just a week back. i've got rivetuner and use it to overclock my card. during intense gaming like FEAR and NFS CARBON what should the temp of my card be without spoiling it in the long run? also how much should i set my fan duty % cycle at?

rahul_becks23
04-04-2007, 04:31 PM
maybe not above 80 degrees........ depends....... it would be better if u check out overclocking forums and articles on the internet........
Overclocking is not an easy job ....... it requires quite experimentation ...... thats why , i recommend u to go to good sites and learn about everything involved in overclocking ...... Ok , bye .

wnns13
06-04-2007, 03:17 AM
Re: All Graphics Cards related queries here. "Quote:
Originally Posted by wnns13
Will Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Thief III Work On My Computer?

My System:
Nvidia Geforce Mx 4000 PCI (not Express!) (I am getting a ATI Radeon 9250- -PCI Not Express)
256 Ram
Intel Celoron 2.93ghz

Thank You In Advance

"Quote:
No, Your system is very slow to play Chaos Theory if not it will never start because you dont have the minimum reqs. Has for thief i think you can play. Iam not sure about it. Also celeron is not all meant for gaming. It mostly
meant for office."

But i Do meet the minimun system requirements for splinter cell!

Quote From UBI Soft.com:


Supported OS: Windows® 2000/XP (only)
Processor: AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium III 1.4 GHz (Athlon or Pentium IV 2.2 GHz recommended)
RAM: 256 MB (512 MB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB DirectX® 9.0c-compliant graphics card (128 MB recommended) (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c-compliant sound card (EAX 2.0 or higher recommended)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (included on disc)
DVD-ROM: 4x or better
Hard Drive Space: 4 GB
Peripherals: Windows-compatible mouse and keyboard only
Multiplay: 64 Kbps broadband (128 Kbps recommended) * Supported Video Cards at Time of Release:

ATI® RADEON® 8500/9000/X families
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 3/4/FX/6 families (GeForce 4 MX not supported)Se a ATI Radeon 9250 is Suported!

keith_j_snyder2
06-04-2007, 11:01 AM
@ keith_j_snyder2 & ranjan2001 thnx a lot.
Now I have another question,say if my friend brings the card in a packet after taking it out of the box then can he bring it with his hand/cabin luggage...has anyone done this before?I'm scared if he brings it in the baggage compartment the pcb might break due to pressure..u see?Well,I'm not concerned about warranty if I get it very cheap...thnx in advance


Dude,don't even say that u don't need warranty!!!When u buy something expensive or may be non-expensive item,u always need warranty.That card is still costly if u even buy it from US or any other place.I mean the cheapest 8800 GTX is from PNY is $550 & XFX 8800 GTX is for $590 at www.newegg.com I mean this is still lot of money & u sure needs a warranty.

About the breaking of the PCB...kinda a thing.
Well have u ever thought why these companies put their behemoths in those huge packages?
And RANJAN has given a fantastic link for the delievery but that is according to the weight delivery.U know this card is almost 10 inch long & weigh about more than 1000 grams.So this will really heavy product.

Besides this if u buy XFX(because of the warranty & only leading brand in India...welll there are other brands also available but we consider XFX is the best) it will cost u almost 28,000 and here it is for 37000 approx(as per the price lists in hardware price quotes) u will get ur card for almost the same price with all the duties.It will be hardly a couple of thousands here & there.
So,I suggest u should buy it from here(INDIA) only.

alexsylvester07
06-04-2007, 11:33 AM
Hi guys,
I have a laptop with c2d processor(T2050), intel 950GMA, 512MB RAM and 120GB HDD. Can i increase my RAM and add a graphics card in a laptop??? will this overheat the system or cause any other trouble. If yes then any suggestions on a good bt not so costly graphics card.

Alex

g_goyal2000
06-04-2007, 12:06 PM
Guys & gals, there are a few sites that can tell whether u'r computer can run a game u want. The sites are:
http://www.srtest.com
http://gameadvisor.futuremark.com/gameadvisor/service/
Instead of posting u'r queries here first, u can all check u'r computers if they are compatible with the games u wanna play.

rahul_becks23
07-04-2007, 12:47 AM
hi , whats the official price of a 8800gts 320 mb and 512 mb ( .... !!! ) ........ preferably XFX .........

azad
07-04-2007, 03:06 AM
XFX 8800GTS 320MB 25900 Rs
XFX 8800GTS 640MB 31000 Rs
XFX 8800GTX 768MB 37900 Rs


these are prices in mumbai...

@alex, u may be able to increase ur ram if ur laptop has expansion slots, but afaik, its not possible to add a graphics card to a laptop...

rahul_becks23
07-04-2007, 03:10 AM
man , the price is still very high ......... have to wait till ATI releases their latest ones ........ or maybe they'll drop the price when they release 8850 series in competition with the R600 ............

xbonez
07-04-2007, 07:47 PM
i'm planning to get the ati radeon x1600pro gfx card however i don't know much about the ati chipsets. i'm more aware about nvidia chipsets so could someone plz tell me that the ati x1600pro chipset is at par with or compares with which nvidia chipset.

keith_j_snyder2
07-04-2007, 09:53 PM
ATi has record s of creating value for money cards.Like they perform same as nVidia cards but ATi cards are cheaper than nVidia cards.X1600 pro is a decent card if you are looking for a non-hardcore gaming,I mean mid end gaming.But if u can afford X1650 XT or 7600 GT then i 'll suggest them.

xbonez
07-04-2007, 11:44 PM
what i meant was, the x1600 pro corresponds with which chipset from nvidia?

dOm1naTOr
08-04-2007, 12:30 AM
7600gs

xbonez
08-04-2007, 12:34 AM
:p thats the ans i was looking for. thanks a lot

kapal83
11-04-2007, 08:07 PM
Hi guys,
I have a laptop with c2d processor(T2050), intel 950GMA, 512MB RAM and 120GB HDD. Can i increase my RAM and add a graphics card in a laptop??? will this overheat the system or cause any other trouble. If yes then any suggestions on a good bt not so costly graphics card.

Alex

Actually, you have a very good laptop config. Anyways, adding goodies will not have any trouble on your overheat coz the entire design of options for laptop are in a way to take care of such basic issues.

If I get a GPU from US can I get warentee here in India?
I am getting XFX GeForce 8800 GTS XXX 320 MB card from US.
In case of any problem can I get it fixed here in India? Or do I
need to send it back to US for repairs?

You may not get warranty in India if you buy from US. Frankly, many products like SONY will not provide warranty in India for products with international warranty if purchased outside India.

The fluctuation of power here in India are more than the US standards. Moreover, the frequency at which the power generators tranfer differ from international setups. Thereofre, there is higher chances of breakdown if those products used in India. Therefore they have to fine tune their products to India or any other Asia Pacific standards.

=CrAzYG33K=
11-04-2007, 08:35 PM
My system setup:
AMD 64 3200+ (skt 939)
ASUS A8V-VM SE
1GB DDR RAM
XFX GeForce 6600 Vanilla PCIE (256 MB)
Windows XP Pro SP2

Variants affecting PSU:
AMD 64 3200+ (skt 939)
1GB DDR RAM (1 Stick)
XFX GeForce 6600 Vanilla PCIE (256 MB)
WD 160GB IDE HDD
1 CD RW Drive and 1 DVD RW drive

My PSU == a pathetic 300W :o
I don't have a Floppy Drive (FDD) installed..
But When I plug in my GFX card (If u can call it that!) after some time into booting, XP freezes up.
If I take out the card the PC is just fine..
SMPS doesn't have juice for the GFX card ?? What do you guys think? :rolleyes:

keith_j_snyder2
11-04-2007, 08:59 PM
^^^ Yeah u r right!!!U need atleast 350 watt pasu,but i suggest get a 500 watt + PSU because if u upgrade ur system in future then u can use the older PSU.

mayanks_098
12-04-2007, 08:11 PM
hi frenz.i dont kno anything bout gpu's so i need your guidance coz im planning to buy a graphic card soon.

i wana buy a gpu n my budget is 8-10k.i want it coz graphics r not gud wen i play certain high end games and while operating on vista ultimate,i hv most of its features turned off coz they don show up properly.

my pc spec is:
E-6300, 1GB RAM,945 based mobo,dvd writer,19"lcd,160GB SATA.

now what shud i go 4? r dx10 based cards available in india?

wch card u suggest i need to get my system showng graphics properly wch i need,i.e. gaming n vista enhancing?

wat bout dx9 cards?

also shud i go 4 a ram upgrade+ a dx9 card or a dx-10 card alone? i mean wch wud gv me btr results on vista + games?

n i hv one of my frn in dubai rt nw?r hardware cheaper in dubai? i can ask him to get it 4 me? n also tell me d cost in india in INR

thanks

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12-04-2007, 08:30 PM
^^^ Yeah u r right!!!U need atleast 350 watt pasu,but i suggest get a 500 watt + PSU because if u upgrade ur system in future then u can use the older PSU.
Thanx for the suggestion.
How much will a 400W cost?
or a 450W for that?
and how much in second hand?

keith_j_snyder2
12-04-2007, 09:17 PM
^^^Don't Buy 2nd hand products because they do not have warranty.
Buy a quality PSU like Cooler Master,Antec,Thermaltake,OCZ,Corsair etc.
Few Indian companies are also good like Zebronics,they also make some quality product but i only trust on the above ones(Cooler Master,Antec,Thermaltake,OCZ,Corsair).
I own a Cooler Master 430 Extreme PSU & i m pretty well satisfied with it.

hi frenz.i dont kno anything bout gpu's so i need your guidance coz im planning to buy a graphic card soon.

i wana buy a gpu n my budget is 8-10k.i want it coz graphics r not gud wen i play certain high end games and while operating on vista ultimate,i hv most of its features turned off coz they don show up properly.

my pc spec is:
E-6300, 1GB RAM,945 based mobo,dvd writer,19"lcd,160GB SATA.

now what shud i go 4? r dx10 based cards available in india?

wch card u suggest i need to get my system showng graphics properly wch i need,i.e. gaming n vista enhancing?

wat bout dx9 cards?

also shud i go 4 a ram upgrade+ a dx9 card or a dx-10 card alone? i mean wch wud gv me btr results on vista + games?

n i hv one of my frn in dubai rt nw?r hardware cheaper in dubai? i can ask him to get it 4 me? n also tell me d cost in india in INR

thanks

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I can't say abouthte "DUBAI" topic but as far the Graphics card related,i think ur budget says 7600 GT or X1650 XT.Both are almost same in terms of performance.But 'll suggest that wait until mid-range DX-10 cards launch.Your overall config. is good but all u need a graphics card.

I gave u 2 options,now its your turn to choose!!!

mayanks_098
13-04-2007, 12:33 PM
will a decent dx-10 based card fit in my budget of 10k?
if yes what model? will i b able to get a hand on 8600GT in dat budget

xbonez
13-04-2007, 01:33 PM
^^ur ram is definitely adequate. as for he gfx card, u may do well by waiting for dx10 cards. i've heard they've been slated for release sometime this month. should be available in india soon. u might be able to get the 8600gt otherwise u can get the 8500gt. nvidia has announced the costs but they won't be available in the indian markets at those costs. expect to pay a little more

GeForce 8600 GTS -- 256 MB GDDR3, 675 MHz core clock, 1000 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8600 GT -- 256 MB GDDR3, 540 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8500 GT -- 128 to 256 MB DDR2 or GDDR3, 450 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock

ur ram is definitely sufficient. u can get urself a dx10 card. they're to be released by this month. not sure how much time they'll take to be available in india. check out the following costs. u might not be able to get a 8600gt but will manage a 8500 i think since they sell a little expensive in india

GeForce 8600 GTS -- 256 MB GDDR3, 675 MHz core clock, 1000 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8600 GT -- 256 MB GDDR3, 540 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8500 GT -- 128 to 256 MB DDR2 or GDDR3, 450 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock

mayanks_098
13-04-2007, 02:09 PM
they r expected to be released this 17th worldwide.
we can expect them round middle of nxt mnth in india.

so ill wait 4 a dx10 card rather then a ram + dx9 card goin by advices u ppl gave...
thanks a lot...

thunderbird.117
13-04-2007, 02:22 PM
Re: All Graphics Cards related queries here. "Quote:
Originally Posted by wnns13
Will Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Thief III Work On My Computer?

My System:
Nvidia Geforce Mx 4000 PCI (not Express!) (I am getting a ATI Radeon 9250- -PCI Not Express)
256 Ram
Intel Celoron 2.93ghz

Thank You In Advance

"Quote:
No, Your system is very slow to play Chaos Theory if not it will never start because you dont have the minimum reqs. Has for thief i think you can play. Iam not sure about it. Also celeron is not all meant for gaming. It mostly
meant for office."

But i Do meet the minimun system requirements for splinter cell!

Quote From UBI Soft.com:


Supported OS: Windows® 2000/XP (only)
Processor: AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium III 1.4 GHz (Athlon or Pentium IV 2.2 GHz recommended)
RAM: 256 MB (512 MB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB DirectX® 9.0c-compliant graphics card (128 MB recommended) (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c-compliant sound card (EAX 2.0 or higher recommended)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (included on disc)
DVD-ROM: 4x or better
Hard Drive Space: 4 GB
Peripherals: Windows-compatible mouse and keyboard only
Multiplay: 64 Kbps broadband (128 Kbps recommended) * Supported Video Cards at Time of Release:
ATI® RADEON® 8500/9000/X families
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 3/4/FX/6 families (GeForce 4 MX not supported)Se a ATI Radeon 9250 is Suported!

Your processor suck.

keith_j_snyder2
13-04-2007, 09:20 PM
^^ur ram is definitely adequate. as for he gfx card, u may do well by waiting for dx10 cards. i've heard they've been slated for release sometime this month. should be available in india soon. u might be able to get the 8600gt otherwise u can get the 8500gt. nvidia has announced the costs but they won't be available in the indian markets at those costs. expect to pay a little more

GeForce 8600 GTS -- 256 MB GDDR3, 675 MHz core clock, 1000 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8600 GT -- 256 MB GDDR3, 540 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8500 GT -- 128 to 256 MB DDR2 or GDDR3, 450 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock

ur ram is definitely sufficient. u can get urself a dx10 card. they're to be released by this month. not sure how much time they'll take to be available in india. check out the following costs. u might not be able to get a 8600gt but will manage a 8500 i think since they sell a little expensive in india

GeForce 8600 GTS -- 256 MB GDDR3, 675 MHz core clock, 1000 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8600 GT -- 256 MB GDDR3, 540 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock
GeForce 8500 GT -- 128 to 256 MB DDR2 or GDDR3, 450 MHz core clock, 700 MHz memory clock


I m not sure but u might be right but some site has benchmarked th 8600 GTS & they revealed the specs as 745 MHz Core Clock & 1250Mhz memory(X2).

xbonez
15-04-2007, 12:13 PM
which is a better gfx chipset: the nvidia geforce 7300gt or the ati radeon x1600pro?

keith_j_snyder2
15-04-2007, 12:46 PM
^^^X1600 pro is better according to the benchmarking results,besides this it is a better overclocker than 7300 GT.

http://www.techspot.com/review/7-nvidia_geforce_7300gt_vs_ati_radeon_x1600pro/

cynosure
15-04-2007, 05:16 PM
Is there any DX10 gfx card from ATI?

darklord
15-04-2007, 06:03 PM
^^ R600 series launches shortly.

ATI Radeon HD2900XT
ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro/XT
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro/XT

ATI Radeon HD 2900XTX launches after some time.

2900XT is 80nm but 2400 and 2600 are 65nm

2900XT is rumoured to debut at a mouthwatering price of 400$
It is a 512MB GDDR3 card having a 512Bit Memory Interface.
It is HDMI ready which means it has onboard audio chip too ! It is also capable rendering PIP, something like PIP feature on our TVs.

Head over to www.thehardwarelabs.com/forums for more news.

deathvirus_me
15-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Can't wait to get my hands on the HD2900XT :D ... waiting for some final bechmarks and pricing .. anything around 29k's INR is what i'm looking for ...

maskorama
15-04-2007, 07:28 PM
hey wat will b da 8600 GT equivalent in ATI series??:confused:

it will b hell lot cheaper thats 4 sure!!:D

xbonez
15-04-2007, 09:10 PM
i don't think the HD2900XT will be priced anywhere near the 30k mark. it'll be more expensive than that since it supposed to be a much better performer than the 8800gtx. but can't say since ati generally price their gfx cards quite aggressively. lets just wait and watch. anyway not much of my interest coz my dad will kick me out of the house even if i mildly propose buying a 30k card just to play games.:) however once i complete education and get a job, nothing less than an alienware will do for me :))

sagargv
17-04-2007, 03:14 PM
when are the mid range ones from ati coming ??

Darthvader
17-04-2007, 03:23 PM
some chinese sites have reported Nvidia also releasing a 8300 and 8400 series cards

viru.sir
17-04-2007, 06:34 PM
hello friend in i want to know that when nvidia is launching geforce 7600gt in dx10 version and would be its price.......

darklord
17-04-2007, 09:19 PM
Can't wait to get my hands on the HD2900XT :grin: ... waiting for some final bechmarks and pricing .. anything around 29k's INR is what i'm looking for ...
I am getting one for sure,will be organising a GO for these cards,lemme know if you might be interested.

hey wat will b da 8600 GT equivalent in ATI series??:confused:

it will b hell lot cheaper thats 4 sure!!:grin:

Mostly it is going to be ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro/XT

when are the mid range ones from ati coming ??
ATI 2900,2400,2600 all cards launch on May14th
I have a strong feeling it is going to be a hard launch with plenty of availability immediately.
Unfortunately Dell is sucking whatever 2400/2600 series cards that they can to slap in their desktops.WHich COULD translate into some kinda shortage but since AMD is pushing the launch a bit late i have guess,they dont want to land in situations like before i.e paper launches.
May14th is the D-Day when everything will be clear.

some chinese sites have reported Nvidia also releasing a 8300 and 8400 series cards
8600 Series cards have been released by Asus,PNY,MSI,Gigabyte,Gainward till now.Interestingly Nvidia itself hasnt launched them :D
8500,8300,8400 are all confirmed.When they arrive, i am not sure.

hello friend in i want to know that when nvidia is launching geforce 7600gt in dx10 version and would be its price.......
Nvidia 7 series cards are not DX10, 8 series cards are DX10 :)

xbonez
17-04-2007, 09:47 PM
nvidia's 7 series cards are all dx9 cards. the entire range of 8series (8300,8500,8600,8800,8900etc.) will be dx10 cards. the 7 series cards will not be relaunched as dx10 cards. for the cost of a 7600gt, u'll get a 8300 dx10 card once it is released

keith_j_snyder2
17-04-2007, 11:20 PM
^^ R600 series launches shortly.

ATI Radeon HD2900XT
ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro/XT
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro/XT

ATI Radeon HD 2900XTX launches after some time.

2900XT is 80nm but 2400 and 2600 are 65nm

2900XT is rumoured to debut at a mouthwatering price of 400$
It is a 512MB GDDR3 card having a 512Bit Memory Interface.
It is HDMI ready which means it has onboard audio chip too ! It is also capable rendering PIP, something like PIP feature on our TVs.

Head over to www.thehardwarelabs.com/forums (http://www.thehardwarelabs.com/forums) for more news.


Good Info Dude!!!

primitive_trash
18-04-2007, 02:57 AM
awesome news guys!!! check it out....wonder when theyre coming to india...and more importantly...at wat price...

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/peripherals/nvidia-8600-and-8500-make-official-debut-252910.php

oh and another question guys...will the DX10 cards run in vista?? i mean will they work under DX9??

mayanks_098
18-04-2007, 08:25 PM
dx 10 cards r 4 vista. i mean vista has dx10 nt dx 9...

xbonez
18-04-2007, 09:46 PM
i don't think its necessarry to run dx10 cards on vista only. games such as crysis which require dx10 may run on xp too. i'm not sure so plz correct me if i'm wrong

mayanks_098
18-04-2007, 10:11 PM
i don't think its necessarry to run dx10 cards on vista only. games s