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iMav
03-03-2007, 03:27 PM
A multi-touch display based on the iphone is rumoured to be in the offing and may replace the track-ball & or the mouse

Source & Video (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/rumors/why-multitouch-apple-monitors-would-be-dumb-241165.php)

sspradhan
05-03-2007, 12:15 PM
yeah multi touch by apple had been speculating since 2005 when o2 released their great pdas
apple called all their designers to come up with a multi touch interface so as to avoid the hassles of the using a pointer(whatever they call it?).
what's great abt the interface is that it obeys intentional commands or touches & ignores the stray touches by your fingers.
apple must have spent lot of hardwork for that interface.
it is as revolutionary as its click mouse & click wheel(in the ipod).

aryayush
05-03-2007, 02:19 PM
There are a lot of great things about Multi-touch:

1. It works like magic. :D
2. You don't need a stylus.
3. It's far more accurate than any touch display that's ever been shipped.
4. It ignores unintended touches, it's super smart.
5. You can do multi-finger gestures on it.


But this thing about Apple displays coming with Multi-touch is just a rumour and it might not be true. However, I desperately hope it is! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/105.gif

hailgautam
05-03-2007, 02:55 PM
@arayush

1.Stop the MAC bashing all the time buddy, It works - ok agreed....but everything Apple does - doesn't have to be MAgiC, it is ok to be a MAC.
3. It has not come into the market, people have not used, needn't make such comments like it is far more accurate than touch pad...wait a while let it be in the market..jaldi kya hai baba
4. Fine it ignores the unintended touches, even the general DUMB touchscreen ignore unintended touches if you lock the screen....
5. ya ya you can Finger it a lot, big deal windows will copy it in it's next version :D

aryayush
05-03-2007, 03:24 PM
First of all, all of these are the features advertised by Apple. I am not saying that I have used it or anything.

1.Stop the MAC bashing all the time buddy, It works - ok agreed....but everything Apple does - doesn't have to be MAgiC, it is ok to be a MAC.I never bash Macs. Why should I? I love Macs.
And there is something called exaggeration. It is often used to underscore how great or how stupid something is. If I say that someone is as dumb as a rock, it does not mean that he is actually a rock.

3. It has not come into the market, people have not used, needn't make such comments like it is far more accurate than touch pad...wait a while let it be in the market..jaldi kya hai babaBut I have seen videos and read reviews of people who have used it and all of them seem to indicate that it works as advertised.

4. Fine it ignores the unintended touches, even the general DUMB touchscreen ignore unintended touches if you lock the screen....:lol: Are you serious or was that meant to be a joke! If it is the latter, you sure have succeeded in making me laugh.
It is akin to saying, "Fine, Macs never crash, even general DUMB PCs do not crash if you turn them off...."!
It ignores unintended touches when the screen is not locked. It automatically switches off the screen when you are talking to someone.

5. ya ya you can Finger it a lot, big deal windows will copy it in it's next versionWhich only goes to prove that it is indeed a great feature.

And if you are tired of my 'MAC bashing' or whatever, you really do not need to read my posts or reply to them. I assure you, I won't mind. :)

hailgautam
05-03-2007, 03:36 PM
1. Oh, So you were in exaggeration mode.......... and not bashing .........fine suites me..

3. Yes of course I have also seen a few, if not many videos and seem to be working the way they intend it to work, but all that I was trying to say that let it come out in the market....come out.

4. Lock the screen as in Disable the screen touches when not in use, not shut down, ya it is funny to think that to disable the phone one would shut down it completely..:D

5. Yes agreed yes man I did.....


ha ha not bothered at all of "your mac bashing" or what every you call it please continue....:D all i was trying to participate in a discussion and putting my opinion about it, and please don't mind either...

kirangp
05-03-2007, 04:43 PM
enuf fellows...everytime there is a word APPLE mentioned everybody starts fighting... aryayush was just giving the details for people who dont know...as a matter of fact I didnt..
Gud to know that it is coming out & when it comes out we will decide whether it is good or bad..Before the release itself all fighting as though they are using touch screen displays for pressing the post reply button lolz

iMav
05-03-2007, 04:49 PM
^^ 31 posts u seem new around welcome to thinkdigit .... we decide the fate of the product even before it registered under the FCC

nepcker
05-03-2007, 04:51 PM
I would really love to see multi-touch on other devices, though I strongly think that Apple would keep it exclusive to the iPhone, at least for some years.

It has not come into the market, people have not used, needn't make such comments like it is far more accurate than touch pad...wait a while let it be in the market
aryayush is right. I haven't used it, but the people who have, agree that it 'works like magic' as Jobs said on this year's MacWorld Expo.

Fine it ignores the unintended touches, even the general DUMB touchscreen ignore unintended touches if you lock the screen
LOL! iPhone ignores unintended touches even when it's not in the locked mode. Since the iPhone responds only to your skin, you get deadly accuracy. As aryayush said, a proximity sensor on the iPhone disables the touch screen when brought close to your face (thus preventing accidental touches).

ya ya you can Finger it a lot, big deal windows will copy it in it's next version
Isn't this talk about multi-touch? It's patended, so nobody but Apple can use it.

kirangp
05-03-2007, 04:52 PM
hehe...ya just caught up with this forum just a month back...well didnt know that but still sometimes u mite have to eat ur own words when the pdt comes out;)

aryayush
05-03-2007, 08:55 PM
Yeah, I forgot to mention it. It is patented and no one can copy it unless they want to be sued.

Of course, if someone wants multi-touch on their phone, they can always contact gx_saurav. He will hack your phone's firmware or simply modify the operating system and lo, you'll have multi-touch. (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=416722&postcount=8)

gxsaurav
05-03-2007, 09:49 PM
^^^^^ did i just hear a rant

aryayush
06-03-2007, 12:25 AM
Yeah, you can hear one when you click on that link.

hailgautam
06-03-2007, 08:35 AM
fine what ever you guys say :D

piyush gupta
06-03-2007, 01:09 PM
yeah multi touch by apple had been speculating since 2005

Still waiting since 2005

aryayush
06-03-2007, 01:58 PM
LOL! Apple did not say it would launch multi-touch displays. It is baseless speculation.

But of course, seeing your standard of fluency in the language, I am not surprised you did not understand the meaning of the word 'speculating'.

hailgautam
06-03-2007, 02:07 PM
Apple does not have a tablet pc type mac, so it would be a nice idea to have something in that category, that too with some great new features..

gxsaurav
06-03-2007, 02:15 PM
Apple Tablet Mac is already available, but not from Apple. But without stylus....so much for the writing capability

aryayush
06-03-2007, 03:51 PM
If you are talking about the ModBook, it does have a stylus and handwriting recognition.

nepcker
06-03-2007, 04:53 PM
Apple did not say it would launch multi-touch displays. It is baseless speculation.

Apple didn't tell us about the iPhone, but everyone knew it. Mac rumour sites really know many secrets of Apple that is not revealed by the company itself.

piyush gupta
06-03-2007, 05:05 PM
LOL! Apple did not say it would launch multi-touch displays. It is baseless speculation.

But of course, seeing your standard of fluency in the language, I am not surprised you did not understand the meaning of the word 'speculating'.

I think u better think about ur language

see here

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=437817&postcount=9

i think u now have to google meaning of spaculation
U KNOW NA WHAT IS GOOGLE

results
Definitions of speculation on the Web:

guess: a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence
a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence); "speculations about the outcome of the election"; "he dismissed it as mere conjecture"
an investment that is very risky but could yield great profits; "he knew the stock was a speculation when he bought it"
meditation: continuous and profound contemplation or musing on a subject or series of subjects of a deep or abstruse nature; "the habit of meditation is the basis for all real knowledge"
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Speculation involves the buying, holding, and selling of stocks, commodities, futures, currencies, collectibles, real estate, or any valuable thing to profit from fluctuations in its price as opposed to buying it for use or for income ( via dividends, rent etc). Speculation or agiotage represents one of three market roles in western financial markets, distinct from hedging and arbitrage.
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Assumption of risk in anticipation of gain but recognizing a higher than average possibility of loss.
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Deliberately assuming a net asset (long) position or net liability (short) position in an asset, such as a foreign currency, in the hope of profiting from price changes.
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The purchase of a risky investment in anticipation of greater returns than that on a risk-free asset.
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The purchase or sale of an asset (or acquisition otherwise of an open position) in hopes that its price will rise or fall respectively, in order to make a profit. See destabilizing speculation and stabilizing speculation.
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Purchase of an asset with the expectation of selling it quickly for a large gain.
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The practice of buying and selling land or other property in order to profit by the rise or fall in their market value; implies a riskier venture than investment.
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Investing in a way that carries a high degree of risk ie loosing your capital investment. An investor would hope to "score big" by investing in a speculative investment. "Day Trading" is a type of speculative investing due to the fast-paced market timing nature of buying stock and selling immediately.
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The purchase or sale of a financial instrument for the sole purpose of making a capital gain.
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The assumption of a long or short position in a financial instrument or a currency in anticipation of a favourable market movement which should result in a gain when the position is covered.
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An attempt to profit from futures price changes through the purchase or sale of futures contracts. In the process, the speculator assumes the risk that the hedger is transferring, and provides liquidity in the market.
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Trading for the explicit purpose of making profits.
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sspradhan
06-03-2007, 09:03 PM
One thing i forgot to mention is that that the day apple launched iphone it was sued by some telecom company i dont remember(yeah that was cisco)
for using their copyrighted term 'Iphone'
That was a nasty blow to apple.

but later on they mutually agreed to share the name for some incentives.

i am guessing what they are upto?
maybe a merger. or copyright buyout by apple.

aryayush
06-03-2007, 10:11 PM
Apple didn't tell us about the iPhone, but everyone knew it. Mac rumour sites really know many secrets of Apple that is not revealed by the company itself.But you cannot expect and wait for the company to deliver a product it has never talked about. piyush gupta is speaking as if he has been waiting since 2005 for a Multi-touch enabled display from Apple and will be the first in line to buy it when it is launched. He is trying to say that it is Apple's fault that it has not delivered the display when it has been in speculation for two years.

@piyush gupta
I dunno what you are trying to prove. Are you nuts! In another post, you rooted through all my posts over the past five days and collected them and posted them with links to prove some point of yours. Now, you copied all the definitions given by Google for the word 'speculation' and copied them one by one using the list function. Get out a little bit, man! Life is not all about posting baseless stuff on the digit forum.
Google says that speculation is "a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence". It should be pretty clear. Mac rumour sites are expressing their opinion that Apple *might* come out with Multi-touch displays based on incomplete evidence. Apple has never even mentioned such a thing officially or unofficially. There haven't even been any leaks confirming the news.
You must have some divine powers if you foresaw the imminent launch of those displays as early as 2005 and have been waiting for it!

sspradhan, I assure you that Cisco's suing Apple was hardly a blow to them. They were expecting and I dare say even anticipating this reaction. All it did was give them loads of free publicity. There is hardly any person who has the slightest interest in technology and does not know about the iPhone yet. But how many people know about Cisco's iPhone? Not many, I'm sure. Apple lost absolutely nothing in this whole fiasco. It played out as if it was almost a calculated plan. :D

piyush gupta
07-03-2007, 12:19 PM
@arya

better u understand how to talk to people.
U said i didn't understand meaning of 'speculation' so for ur knowledge i post all of its meanings

And before u comment on me tell me whats wrong with this
"Waiting Since 2005"
I know its just a speculation

piyush gupta is speaking as if he has been waiting since 2005 for a Multi-touch enabled display from Apple and will be the first in line to buy it when it is launched. He is trying to say that it is Apple's fault that it has not delivered the display when it has been in speculation for two years.

I never said
1. I be first in line to buy it
2.Its apples's fault that it has not delivered the display when it has been in speculation for two years.

Its just ur assumptions

But still u r saying i m nuts!!!

nepcker
07-03-2007, 04:37 PM
The Cisco's lawsuit was silly. And yes, Apple hasn't given any details about multi-touch displays but what I mean to say that mac rumour sites really know about the internal projects of iPhone. Before MacWorld 2005, mac rumors sites knew that Apple would release a mini PC - Apple launched the Mac mini. The next year, mac rumor sites reported Apple to move to Intel - it did. This year, they were guessing that Apple would release some kind of a phone - Apple did.

aryayush
07-03-2007, 05:27 PM
But then they also get a lot of things wrong. Everyone was saying there would be a tablet this time, Apple displays with built-in iSight cameras, Leopard will be revealed in detail, it will be launched in March. And they have been saying that Apple will release an iPhone since many years.

It is more of a hit-or-miss case. You can never bank upon these rumours.