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[geek_iit]

Hi Guys

Can u please suggest the best laptop for strictly under 30 k? I would prefer a laptop with arnd 2GB RAM.

Thanks in advance! :)

Also, the VX550 seems to be out of the market at the moment. I am planning to buy a PC within the next 2 weeks. Which is the best alternative?

[desiibond]

Tagan StoneRock and Cooler master RealPower

Look for any 80 PLUS certified PSUs

[Xeno]

Hello,

I am looking for the following components, as my budget isnt that good enough, Ill be eventually getting the optional parts later on. I currently reside in Tumkur, which is like 65 kms north of Bangalore, therefore if someone could find out the prices and availability of the following parts I am listing, it'd be greatly appreciated.

The PC is not intended for gaming (casual) and I will not overclock or anything like that :P. Just require a system that's reliable and can stay on for hours and hours.

Processor:
AMD Athlon II X2 240 (2.8GHz)

Motherboard:
ASUS M3A76-CM sAM2

Memory:
Corsair XMS2 DHX KIT 2048MB (2x1GB) PC2-6400U CL5-5-5

Harddrive:
Well too many choices so I don't know which one to go for as of now. Need something reliable. 250-320 GB would do just fine as of now as ill add more harddrives later

Powersupply:
I know Antec has presence in India :oops: Just don't know whether the Earthwatts 500W PSU is available or not. I dont mind paying the extra cause I intend to save on electricity. Since I might throw in additional harddrives and a graphics card some months down the line, Ill opt for a higher PSU like this one.


Ill be carrying over the monitor, case, keyboard/mouse, optical drives, UPS from the older system to use with this new system.

Any other suggestions are welcome :D I just aim for a reliable system with somewhat gaming performance. I intend to continue with XP SP2 as of now and will probably shift to windows 7 next year.

[desiibond]

processor: that is a good choice. price: 3k - 3.5k

mobo: pick Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H or ASUS M3A78-EM instead. 760G is not a good chipset if you are going to use onboard graphics .Price: 4k-4.5k

HDD: go for Western Digital green or blue 500Gb : 2.5k

PowerSupply: I would pick Corsair VX450W : 4.2k

I usually go to SP Road to purchase these. Golcha and ankit are very reliable vendors there.

[geek_iit]

Hi Guys

Can u please suggest the best laptop for strictly under 30 k? I would prefer a laptop with arnd 2GB RAM.

Thanks in advance! :)

Also, the VX550 seems to be out of the market at the moment. I am planning to buy a PC within the next 2 weeks. Which is the best alternative?

Any suggestions on the 30k laptop?

[desiibond]

^^hmm. Check Acer 5536 and 5536G.

[Krow]

processor: that is a good choice. price: 3k - 3.5k

mobo: pick Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H or ASUS M3A78-EM instead. 760G is not a good chipset if you are going to use onboard graphics .Price: 4k-4.5k

HDD: go for Western Digital green or blue 500Gb : 2.5k

PowerSupply: I would pick Corsair VX450W : 4.2k

I usually go to SP Road to purchase these. Golcha and ankit are very reliable vendors there.
Why not the Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.3k instead?

[Xeno]

processor: that is a good choice. price: 3k - 3.5k

mobo: pick Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H or ASUS M3A78-EM instead. 760G is not a good chipset if you are going to use onboard graphics .Price: 4k-4.5k

HDD: go for Western Digital green or blue 500Gb : 2.5k

PowerSupply: I would pick Corsair VX450W : 4.2k

I usually go to SP Road to purchase these. Golcha and ankit are very reliable vendors there.


Thank you for the quick reply. Checked out the ASUS M3A78-EM and its all good to go !

What is the difference between WD Green and Blue :-?? 2.5k really sounds like a killer price :D

and what would the corsair XMS2 2x1 GB cost ? ( mainly because it'd be useless on XP 32bit OS to put 4GB of RAM ... and its not even needed..)

EDIT EDIT:
Just saw your post Techalomaniac,
The board seems good with nearly the same specs as the ASUS, although I haven't got an idea about Biostar. Also it seems to lack 7.1 sound system,e-SATA port and HDMI port... I currently use a CRT but when wallet allows ill go in for a better display :grin:

[desiibond]

Green: power saving mode and slows down when not in use
blue: mainstream HDD

@technalomaniac, I always prefer Gigabyte/ASUS/MSI over other brands and recommend the same. just a personal opinion though :)

[Xeno]

@desiibond,

WD Green it is then. Would you have the contact numbers of the vendors you recommended ? (PM me )

thanks for all the help ! :)

[geek_iit]

^^hmm. Check Acer 5536 and 5536G.

Thanks a lot dude! :)

How about dell inspiron series?

[desiibond]

afaik, it starts at 35k.

[Manickaraj]

I have a 19" LCD monitor and my rig is in my signature. Can a APC 500VA UPS provide backup for my rig? 5 to 10 minutes will do. Are should I go for 600VA UPS? If so, pls suggest some reliable brands(APC is damn costly) with a long warranty coverage. Also quote the prices.

[desiibond]

500VA won't be enough. you need 650VA atleast but 800VA is recommended.

APC may be costly but it comes with amazing reliability. better stick to APC.

[Xeno]

^quite right. The local UPS'es don't switch fast enough when the power goes out (the response time to switch from ac -> dc has to be fast ) and your pc has a chance of crashing. Plus when it'd come to battery maintainance / replacement, APC will be much more standardised.

APC's lowest end ups'es arent good at all (the 1400-1700 rs ups...), but higher end is far better still.

[Manickaraj]

500VA won't be enough. you need 650VA atleast but 800VA is recommended.

APC may be costly but it comes with amazing reliability. better stick to APC.

Ok then. I ll stick to 650VA. Wats the price.

[desiibond]

should be around 3k for 650V

[mumblehere]

Ok then. I ll stick to 650VA. Wats the price.


i bot it 2 months back, was 3.1k then

[Xeno]

Hrm a question,

Seeing that the ATHLON:D II X4 quad @ 5.5k is just a killer price for a quad core, what would be the appropriate baseline motherboard (with DDR3 support) with onboard graphics that'd go along with it ? I feel I can stretch my budget beyond the Athlon X2 240. DDR3 mem sticks doesnt seem expensive either.

Edit: ill throw in a GPU in 2-3 months later after I buy this :p paisa management.

EDITED: Techalomaniac thanks for pointing out the mistake :P

[Krow]

^Its the Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k, not Phenom. I think desiibnd likes ASUS M785G-EVO, but I'm not sure if it comes with integrated 4200 graphics... Its 7k, expensive IMO, but has crossfire support!

[Xeno]

You mean the Asus M4A785TD-V EVO ? That does seem like a sweet board

The AMD 785G features the updated HD 4200 graphics engine that adds DirectX 10.1 and UVD 2.0 features along with multi-channel LPCM audio output to the mix compared to the previous generation HD 3200 on the 780G chipset.

I think I am going in for this :D don't mind the wait or the $ tag. Any chances for the prices to lower for this board ? I am not buying in a month's time... after ill need it though.

12.5k for Procy and Mobo, (5.5k + 7k = 12.5k)
2.5k for RAM, (Corsair XMS2 available in this price bracket ?)
2.5k for HDD , (WD Green 500GB)
4-4.5k for PSU (Corsair or Antec)

21.5k in total .. hrm will need to save up a bit more :P ..

[vaibhav_jain]

i like to know the prices of ZOTAC GeForce 9600GT ECO card in delhi and also please tell me about the service provided by company is it good or bad.

[geek_iit]

Apparently the VX 550 and CM Real Power Pro 550 PSU are not available at the moment in kolkata. I am planning to buy a PC in the next 10 days. Is Seasonic 500 W a good alternative? Any recommended model?
The other alternative is CM RP Modular 500W. Which one is better? Any other suggestions are also welcome. :)

My config:

AMD Phenom II X4 920 Black Edition
Biostar TA790GX+128M
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800Mhz 2x2GB
Western Digital SATA 2 500 GB 32 MB Buffer - WD5000AVVS
Samsung DVDRW
Palit GTX260 Sonic (Palit GTX 260 Sonic 216 SP 896MB DDR-III [HDMI])

Will a 500 W 80 plus rated PSU be enough for this?

[desiibond]

if you want to go for AM3 mobo (785G), you have to go with DDR3 and 2Gb Transcend costs 2k-2.2k right now.

for PSU, i would pick corsair over Antec.

[Krow]

Corsair PSU's are Seasonic OEM so Seasonic 500W is a must buy. I recommend the modular CM RP 500 though because it ensures lesser cable clutter and hence better airflow.

[vaibhav_jain]

Corsair PSU's are Seasonic OEM so Seasonic 500W is a must buy. I recommend the modular CM RP 500 though because it ensures lesser cable clutter and hence better airflow.


Wat is SEASONIC OEM?

[damngoodman999]

Wat is SEASONIC OEM?


Its not for u ! Ok Zotac 9600GT eco ?? Y u could buy 9600GT for 4.5K + 1K for PSU should do gr8

[vaibhav_jain]

PLEASE TELL ME I AM GOING TO BUY CORSAIR VX 450W PSU.

[Xeno]

if you want to go for AM3 mobo (785G), you have to go with DDR3 and 2Gb Transcend costs 2k-2.2k right now.

for PSU, i would pick corsair over Antec.

Ahhh yes yes. DDR3 Transcend doesn't sound much (considering I paid 900 bucks for my DDR 512MB :mad:), but is there a better alternative ?

Corsair PSU's are Seasonic OEM so Seasonic 500W is a must buy. I recommend the modular CM RP 500 though because it ensures lesser cable clutter and hence better airflow.

Yep that's true again. Basically the same SMPS as Corsair, didn't know if they were available here... Any idea about the retail value of Seasonic 500W ?

[damngoodman999]

PLEASE TELL ME I AM GOING TO BUY CORSAIR VX 450W PSU.


U dont need Corsair VX450 to run 9600GT ! just seasonic PSU for 1K is enough but if u r over budget u can go for VX450 its safer anyway , cooler master 500watts (or) Corsair CX400 watts is enough to handle the 9600GT flawless

[vaibhav_jain]

OH THX@DGM

[geek_iit]

Apparently the VX 550 and CM Real Power Pro 550 PSU are not available at the moment in kolkata. I am planning to buy a PC in the next 10 days. Is Seasonic 500 W a good alternative? Any recommended model?
The other alternative is CM RP Modular 500W. Which one is better? Any other suggestions are also welcome. :)

My config:

AMD Phenom II X4 920 Black Edition
Biostar TA790GX+128M
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800Mhz 2x2GB
Western Digital SATA 2 500 GB 32 MB Buffer - WD5000AVVS
Samsung DVDRW
Palit GTX260 Sonic (Palit GTX 260 Sonic 216 SP 896MB DDR-III [HDMI])

Will a 500 W 80 plus rated PSU be enough for this?

Will a Seasonic 500W (80 Plus) be enough for the rig mentioned above. I dont have too much idea about power consumptions..

Thanks Techalomaniac for ur reco! :)

[desiibond]

U dont need Corsair VX450 to run 9600GT ! just seasonic PSU for 1K is enough but if u r over budget u can go for VX450 its safer anyway , cooler master 500watts (or) Corsair CX400 watts is enough to handle the 9600GT flawless

he mentioned that he is gonna go for a GPU in 2-3 months. So, it's better to go for atleast a 450W 80 PLUS certified PSU now than to make a change again later.

[Krow]

Will a Seasonic 500W (80 Plus) be enough for the rig mentioned above. I dont have too much idea about power consumptions..

Thanks Techalomaniac for ur reco! :)
Yes, by a few miles. But I recommend the CM RP 500W Modular anyway. :razz:

[geek_iit]

Yes, by a few miles. But I recommend the CM RP 500W Modular anyway. :razz:

Thanks! But this review swayed me towards seasonic's side. :)

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cases/Seasonic_S12_500W_1.html

Also, I read that the GTX 260 Sonic consumes 282 W at full load. Do the other components consume so less power? :O

[damngoodman999]

he mentioned that he is gonna go for a GPU in 2-3 months. So, it's better to go for atleast a 450W 80 PLUS certified PSU now than to make a change again later.
But i thought he is on a budget !! :???::???::???:

[Krow]

Yes, other than CPU (120W).

[damngoodman999]

Thanks! But this review swayed me towards seasonic's side. :)

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cases/Seasonic_S12_500W_1.html

Also, I read that the GTX 260 Sonic consumes 282 W at full load. Do the other components consume so less power? :O

No way 190 to 220 watts of full load 260GTX sonic - i m using - < 282 watts is for GTX 295GTX & GTX 285 & HD 4870X2

[geek_iit]

No way 190 to 220 watts of full load 260GTX sonic - i m using - < 282 watts is for GTX 295GTX & GTX 285 & HD 4870X2

I found some reviews:

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2813&cid=3&pg=8

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_260_Sonic_216_SP/27.html

[damngoodman999]

^^ what are those reviews , when palit released GTX260 revolution ??

[geek_iit]

^^ what are those reviews , when palit released GTX260 revolution ??

Sorry, I didnt get u.. The reviews mention the GFX card as GTX 260 sonic edition.

[damngoodman999]

the techpowerup

I am using it , the maximum power on LOAD is CRYSIS game 4 hrs continuous play 231watts thats limit

[geek_iit]

Now that i5 is cheaply available in India, can someone suggest a suitable alternative for my rig with i5 and a compatible MB and GFX card? I am looking for equivalent/better gaming performance as my previously decided rig:

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 920 BE
Biostar TA790GX+128M
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800Mhz 2x2GB
Western Digital SATA 2 500 GB 32 MB Buffer - WD5000AVVS
Samsung DVDRW
Cabinet - CM 690
Seasonic 500W PSU
Palit GTX260 Sonic
OCZ Freeze Extreme Thermal Compound
Logitech Ergonomic KB (without mouse)

Also, my budget is 40k without monitor. So kindly suggest the best alternative within this budget. :)
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the techpowerup

I am using it , the maximum power on LOAD is CRYSIS game 4 hrs continuous play 231watts thats limit

Ok, thanks for the info :)

Then I am going for a 500 W 80 plus PSU for my rig. Thanks to u and techalomaniac :)
I just wanted to confirm the power consumption so that I didnt have any unexpected surprises. :)

[damngoodman999]

@ Geek_iit

Dude seasonic 500watts cannot handle Palit GTX 260 sonic ! u need more than 36amp or more under 12v rail

Corsair VX550 is safest way to handle GTX260

As for the proccy & mobo

Corei5 750 10700/-

Gigabyte GA-p55-UD3r - 10300/-

[geek_iit]

@ Geek_iit

Dude seasonic 500watts cannot handle Palit GTX 260 sonic ! u need more than 36amp or more under 12v rail

Corsair VX550 is safest way to handle GTX260

As for the proccy & mobo

Corei5 750 10700/-

Gigabyte GA-p55-UD3r - 10300/-

Thanks for the suggestion. :)
VX550 is not available in Kolkata at the moment. Which is the best alternative PSU? Will seasonic 600W do? Or CM RPModular 500W?

If nothing else, I'll pbly hv to go fr TX 650. But it'll strain my budget a lot! :(

[damngoodman999]

Thanks for the suggestion. :)
VX550 is not available in Kolkata at the moment. Which is the best alternative PSU? Will seasonic 600W do? Or CM RPModular 500W?

If nothing else, I'll pbly hv to go fr TX 650. But it'll strain my budget a lot! :(

VX550 is 5.8K ,TX650 is 6.8K almost future proof for SINGLE GPU ! it has enough power to handle a high gaming rig

go for TX650 :razz:

[vaibhav_jain]

i like to know the prices of ZOTAC GeForce 9600GT ECO card in delhi and also please tell me about the service provided by company is it good or bad.

[gary4gar]

I went to market today, spend 2hours searching various shops. I checked out Intel's and AMD's Proccy Lineup.Here Are the Quotes I got:
CPU
Quad Core Q8400: 8500/-
Core 2 Duo E7500: 5750/-
Dual Core E5300: 3300/-
Amd Sempron 140: 1890/-(No Other Models Available)

Mobo:
GIGABYTE GA-G31M-ES2: 2550/-
Asus P5KPL-AM IN
Asus P5QLM G41 chipset: Rs3050/-

RAM(Rates have increased):
2GB Kingston 800Mhz - Rs1600/-
2GB Simmtronics 667Mhz - Rs1500/-
2GB Corsair - Rs1750/-
2GB Dynet - Rs 1375/-
2GB Hynix - Rs1425/-

All are local rates @ Jaipur

[Manickaraj]

should be around 3k for 650V

Thanks bond. How many minutes do u think it ll give backup for my rig?

[desiibond]

5-10 minutes I think if you pick 450W PSU

[Krow]

Amd Sempron 140: 1890/-(No Other Models Available)

Pity... AMD has such cool models out now, pity they are not available in Jaipur. :(

[ashok jain]

i m aware of that desibond but what about the interlacing issues in the psp3000 has that been resolved .....

Dear,

As per latest report , the problem is still there , but its minimised to some segment only.

we have ready stock of product with Sony india warranty , 7950/-

thank you

[nads]

Dear,

As per latest report , the problem is still there , but its minimised to some segment only.

we have ready stock of product with Sony india warranty , 7950/-

thank you



Can i dish out custom firmaware on the PSP3000 n play games from the mem stick..... or still psp3000 is hacker proof...... dont mind going in for psp2000 main priority is tro play games from the mem stick....... how much does the psp2000 cost in mumbai?????

thx

[desiibond]

what's the reason for not liking PSP Go? they removed UMD from this and also Sony is supposed to fix display issues in this one.

43% lighter than previous version
16 GB on-board flash memory
Bluetooth support
Memory Stick Micro support

yes, it may have a half inch smaller display but I think that it will have a better resolution, negating the size factor.

[kanjar]

What is the current price of X-mini Max stereo speakers ?

[max007]

I'm planning to buy a pc and i wana go for intel core quad processor(2.66GHz)...my problem is which mobo you guys prefer ???..intel or asus or anything else??
My budget for motherboard 4.5k.
Plz reply.
Thanks.

[sree01]

Guys, what is your opinion about this combo
Athlon II X2 240 + BIOSTAR A760GE

Also suggest one best and cheap cabinet for this combo

Thanks in advance:razz:

[Xeno]

@ Sree01

Hmmmm while that's not a bad mobo and does fairly okay, I think there are others better than it at the same price range. How much are you paying for the proccy and mobo (individually)

And you could opt for Zebronics Rage, huge fan on the side and I think it comes in 1.5-1.6k range probably...not sure of the price but its not expensive.
http://www.zebronics.net/images/cabinets/rage-s.jpg

[Krow]

I'm planning to buy a pc and i wana go for intel core quad processor(2.66GHz)...my problem is which mobo you guys prefer ???..intel or asus or anything else??
My budget for motherboard 4.5k.
Plz reply.
Thanks.
No Intel at all. Gigabyte EP43-DS3L should be for 3.8k, but IMO you should look for Gigabyte-P43 UD series mobos as they are better around the same price.

Guys, what is your opinion about this combo
Athlon II X2 240 + BIOSTAR A760GE
Also suggest one best and cheap cabinet for this combo
Thanks in advance:razz:
Good processor and outdated mobo. Get the Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.3k, which comes with integrated ATI 4200 graphics, which means u can even play crysis @ medium settings. :razz:

Cabinet : Zebronics Bijli @ 1k-1.5k

[jit_devil2]

hey just curious seasonic 500watt available in kolkata???if yes wats the price?????

[topgear]

Just call tirupati enterprise - the distributor of seasonic PSU :p
+91-33-2225-1192

[Manickaraj]

5-10 minutes I think if you pick 450W PSU

I think I ll go for Numeric 800 VA as Agent 001 said in the current issue. Cause I am doubtful whether APC 650 VA can hold my rig if I was gaming during a power failure. APC 800 VA is really costly. Wat do u say bond?:-?

[jit_devil2]

seasonic will be out of my budget i guess..........i got around 2.2k-2.4 ks to dish out............my options are an used cm extreme power 600watt for 1.7ks......it works nice...........and a new gigabyte 460watt........so wat should i opt for................btw i have heard bad things about cm 600watt............but da encouragement is that manickraj runs a 4870 on it........so i should be fine i guess

[desiibond]

afaik, price of CM extremepower 600W is around 3k.

Also, note that CM Extremepower 600W is overrated 500W. It's better to pay 2.5k and get 500W than to pay 1.7k for 600W used one.

[jit_devil2]

2.5ks 500watt??? you mean coolermaster psu 500watt????or any other brand.

[desiibond]

yes. coolermaster.

[sree01]

@ Sree01

Hmmmm while that's not a bad mobo and does fairly okay, I think there are others better than it at the same price range. How much are you paying for the proccy and mobo (individually)

And you could opt for Zebronics Rage, huge fan on the side and I think it comes in 1.5-1.6k range probably...not sure of the price but its not expensive.
http://www.zebronics.net/images/cabinets/rage-s.jpg

Athlon II X2 240 - 3.2k
BIOSTAR A760GE - 2.9k

Also specify a good UPS

[maldyzooks]

guys,
any info on any 785g based ATX motherboards other than the asus one?
gigabyte, asrock , any ?
cant find any on sale anywhere online here.

[official]

guys i want to know the price of gtx 295 and the psu for running this single card in Kolkata.
Other suggestions are welcome.

[damngoodman999]

guys i want to know the price of gtx 295 and the psu for running this single card in Kolkata.
Other suggestions are welcome.

Palit Gtx 295 -> 28K , Zotac ->29 , EVGA 30

Corsair TX650 can handle

[desiibond]

for GTX295, I think corsair TX750 should be good.

[keith_j_snyder2]

for GTX295, I think corsair TX750 should be good.

HX620 can also handle GTX295!

[geek_iit]

Hi Guys

I was planning on going for Biostar TA 790 GX + 128M with Phenom X4 920 BE, Palit GTX 260 Sonic and Corsair XMS 2 DDR 2 RAM 800 MHz, 2x2 GB. But apparently, it is currently unavailable in kolkata :(
I need to buy within the next week. Please suggest a suitable alternative. I do not need X-Fire or onboard graphics, just a solid MB with very high reliability and great gaming performance. It wud b grt if its in the same price range as the originally planned one.

[thunder.02dragon]

Then either Biostar TA790GXB
Or Gigabyte MA78GM US2H

[max007]

No Intel at all. Gigabyte EP43-DS3L should be for 3.8k, but IMO you should look for Gigabyte-P43 UD series mobos as they are better around the same price.
thx for your reply :smile:
any Biostar mobo you prefar?
My budget mobo + processor = 14k n i live in kolkata.
Thx.

[Krow]

thunder.02dragon is a dealer I believe in Kolkata. He can guide you better. :)

[topgear]

guys i want to know the price of gtx 295 and the psu for running this single card in Kolkata.
Other suggestions are welcome.

Contact this guy thunder.02dragon. Just send him a pM.

GTX 295 should be Rs. 29-30K

For PSU get Corsair TX650W. It Rs. 7K

[thunder.02dragon]

Drop me a PM regarding whatever Products You require..and you will get all those delivered at your home :D
Free Of cost*
*Only for Kolkata Customers :D
Guys guys..why not you give link over here..
www.exoduspc.in
Its not possible for me alone to update the prices regularly..but if prices seem on higher side..give me a call to 9432876818

[desiibond]

guys, any idea how much DDR-400 512meg costs?

[Xeno]

900-980 bucks for Transcend :p 512 MB DDR RAM.

[desiibond]

^^great. Thanks for the price detail :)

[Xeno]

Ill be heading to bangalore on Monday :D ... time to splurge :P

Oh and Dynet costs the same nearly so its just better to go for transcend... Dynet is like 30 bucks cheaper that's all.


p.s had received my PM ?

[ak24]

Hey guys what is the price of quad core processor in mumbai... also could someone pls tell me which intel motherboard is compatible with that and the price
Thanx

[Krow]

^Get AMD Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k, best quad core you can get! Beats Intel Q8200 and Q6600 too, both are priced way above at 8k and 12k. Mobo, get Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.3k. Best buys really, :)

[maldyzooks]

guys, any idea if any of these motherboards available? cant find em

gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
gigabyte GA-MA785GT-UD3H
asus M4A785TD-V EVO
asrock M3A785GXH
msi 785GT-E63
msi 785G-E65
msi 785G-E53

[Krow]

Check:

www.theitwares.com (call them and ask)
www.lynx-india.com (search their site)

[amogh]

i want to buy new mother board and processor currently i am having pentium 4 2.93ghz HT and ati radeon xpress 200 motherboard i have a very limited budget i have finalise Phenom II X2 550 BE for processor please suggest me a good board which sholud have atlest 4 memory banks and budget for board is 2000 to 3000rs or suggest me other board for intel processor e7500 is 7500 better then phenom 550 be ?
thanks in advance

[Krow]

@ amogh Change the processor to Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k as it is quad core and also a nice proccy. If you don't need a quad core then Phenom II X2 550BE is the best dual core at that price and it is better than the E7500. I dunno of any board that comes with 4 Memory slots for that budget. However a good board for your needs would be Biostar TA785GE 128M with ATI4200 128MB graphics and you can play crysis too with the onboard gfx on the board. It costs about 4k and is totally worth the price.

[amogh]

hey thanks but i dont need any onboard graphics since i have an xfx 8600 gt graphic card
so suggest me a board in that budget of 2000-3000rs with four slots of memory
for Phenom II X2 550BE

[Xeno]

Just came back from bangalore :p got the stuff from Ankit Infotech (Shop #114, SP Road, Bangalore.)
Special thanks to desiibond for recommending a good vendor,

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO - 6900/-
AMD Athlon II X4 620 (2.6 Ghz) - 5400/-
Transcend Value DDR3 2GB RAM - 2500/-
WD Caviar Green 500GB - 2500/-
CoolerMaster Realpower 460W (80+ Certified) - 3560/-
Zebronics Bijli Cabinet (without SMPS) 1200/-
with SMPS 1600/-

Bargained and brought the mobo price from 7.2 -> 6.9k and SMPS from 3700 -> 3560.

*prices are not inclusive of 4% VAT.

[Krow]

hey thanks but i dont need any onboard graphics since i have an xfx 8600 gt graphic card
so suggest me a board in that budget of 2000-3000rs with four slots of memory
for Phenom II X2 550BE
I don't think that there are any boards for that price with four memory slots.
Minimum would probably be Xeno's board @ 7k.
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=fcsXWSxnhzZE9rnR

Just came back from bangalore :p got the stuff from Ankit Infotech (Shop #114, SP Road, Bangalore.)
Special thanks to desiibond for recommending a good vendor,

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO - 6900/-
AMD Athlon II X4 620 (2.6 Ghz) - 5400/-
Transcend Value DDR3 2GB RAM - 2500/-
WD Caviar Green 500GB - 2500/-
CoolerMaster Realpower 460W (80+ Certified) - 3560/-
Bargained and brought the mobo price from 7.2 -> 6.9k and SMPS from 3700 -> 3560.
*prices are not inclusive of 4% VAT.
Congratulations on the purchase. I must say that it is a really cool buy. Especially the PSU and the mobo.

[Xeno]

Thank you :D !

I yet have to install windows on this, its still packed. Any suggestion for better DDR3 1600-1800 RAM ( 4GB) ? the one I have is 1333 right now and I couldn't buy corsair XMS3 due to budget constrictions :D .. prolly will get it after some 2 months. ill be putting WinXP64Bit OS on this and Win7 in dual boot.

Although what a massive jump from 2.1 Ghz Single core Athlon XP to Q-core 2.6Ghz... :D

and goodbye IDE HDD ! :-|

[amogh]

thanks
but i dont have that much budget for board so give me best value for money for 2000rs - 3000rs for Phenom II X2 550BE without any onboard graphics since having xfx 8600 gt card thanks in advance and memory should support atleast 8gb

[topgear]

Biostar has some 785G mobo which is darn cheap @ only Rs. 3.5-4K.

There is not any mobo available under 4K which does not has on board gfx. They all has onboard gfx :p

[Krow]

^and AFAIK, none have 4 memory slots, do they?

[topgear]

Yup, 2-3K vanilla mobos does not come with more than 2 RAM slots :p

BTW, that biostar 785G mobo costs Rs. 4.3K so it's better to get biostar 780G based mobo instead :p

[geek_iit]

whats with the sudden upsurge of RAM prices? I am gonna buy a PC tom and the prices that I m getting are 4400 for corsair XMS2 2x2 Gb (non paired)!! :O :(
The paired ones arent even available in kolkata (source: thunder dragon)!! I dont hv much choice of waiting coz I come down in kolkata only once in 8 months or so. If i get it shipped, the prices would be high anyhow! Talk of being stuck! :(

[ak24]

Hi can someone suggest a ASUS MB( with price) compatible with AMD Athlon II X4 620 .. also a video card (with price). will i be able to play all games with that config

[topgear]

@ geek_iit - corsair 800Mhz c5 ram should be Rs. 1.6K per 2Gb stick.
He may be quoting the 800Mhz c4 ram as it performs better and costs more :p

@ ak24 - asus has one 785G based full ATX mobo in that price range. look for it. It's called something like EVO 785G :p

[Krow]

@ak 24 ASUS M4A785GTD-V EVO @ 6.9k
has DDR3 RAM and Crossfire support.
You will be able to play all games with the onboard gfx itself provided you buy 4GB ram.

[nads]

just came across an article about the soon to be released ATi 5870 n its a sweet card for 379$.......... its nearly 40-50% faster than the 4870 n its in the region of Geforce 285 n in some cases 295............ but guys just look at the price.....wow!!!!!! have always been an GeForce fan all my life...... but i guess AMD is getting sweet enough for me at that price point hard to resist........ yum yum..........:oops:

the link to the article...... http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-5870,review-31685.html

[Krow]

^thanks for linking. Yes, it is a sweet card. Look at the price man! Just look at it and smile! :D

[sujitm]

Powercom 1Kva UPS - 4250/-
Asus Xonar STX - 8424/-
Dell 2209WA - 16000/- shipped to home
Audioengine 5 - 18000/-
Xbox 360 controller for windows - 1200/-

[desiibond]

Whoa!!! AE5? pics please. can't wait to see your setup's pics. and congrats.

[geek_iit]

Hi Guys

I purchased my PC today.. FINALLY!!! :)
Waited for close to 7 months for this.. coz good config and prices are not available where I live (Bhopal).

I must say that thunder.02 dragon is the most helpful vendor that I have come around. He spent close to 10 hours with me on Gtalk helping me finalize the config! His knowledge regarding the pros and cons of different components is also very good . :)

I compared the prices with the best shops in Chandni and his prices were among the best.

The care with which he assembled the PC was also amazing (for over 4 hours)! I am really impressed with him. A pic of the final assembly is attached, just drool over the cable management! :P

http://i36.tinypic.com/2u97hb9.jpg

(See thunder's post below)

Although I bought the PC at the wrong time (some prices were at an all time high), but I am quite satisfied with the pricing given by him compared to the market. The final prices were:

Phenom 2 X4 920 - 8950
Gigabyte MA-78GM-US2H - 4350
WD 512 GB Caviar Green (16 MB) - 2575
VX 550 - 5800
LG DVDRW - 1075
Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 MHz RAM (2x2 GB) - 4275 (unpaired, the paired one was not available in kolkata) - This one was too high! Bad day! :(
Logitech KB - 275
GTX 260 Sonic 896 MB- 10750
CM 690 Cabinet - 4650
Extra 120 mm CM non LED fan - 325
Total (with tax) - 44720

He even gave me a free coat from his left over OCZ Freeze extreme thermal compound!! Impressive! :D

This person is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for purchasing new systems. He runs exoduspc.in.

[Krow]

^Damn! Asus Xonar STX! 2209WA, AE5! What a buy... Pics please!!!

[jerryelvis]

Powercom 1Kva UPS - 4250/-
Asus Xonar STX - 8424/-
Dell 2209WA - 16000/- shipped to home
Audioengine 5 - 18000/-
Xbox 360 controller for windows - 1200/-

Congrats bro!...
where did u get xbox controller.just 2 day's back i was quoted Rs1660 for it(in chennai).

[sujitm]

^^ Lamington road, Mumbai.
Also, saw in Croma, not sure of the price there.

Will try post some pics tomorrow

[topgear]

@ geek_iit - Congrats for your rig and thanks for your feedback. Will come handy in the future :p

[desiibond]

@geek_iit, That is a superb and extremely capable rig that could create envy in many (count me in in this case. hehe). Congratulations and happy gaming!!!

[nads]

gr8 rig geek_iit (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=8458) worth it....... happy gaming.......

guys need to ask u a question whats the difference between a kingston?transcend value RAM n the corair or OCZ RAMs apart from the tight latency.... i mean how much will be the performance gain if use these quality products n is it worth spending the extra dough on them?????? i have kingston 2X2GB value ram clocked at 800Mhz...... is it worth upgrading????? i need real world results if there is a spike in the fps of about 3-5fps then i dont think it should be commanding such a high price...... but i could be wrong..... pls enlighten me guys..... :oops:

[desiibond]

^^corsair and OCZ (non-value rams) are made using higher quality semiconductor/silicon and that makes them more stable and faster. Also they come with good heat sinks to reduce heat and this can help overclockers a lot.

Transcend and Kingston too manufacture performance rams and they are pretty good too.

[nads]

m aware of that desibond but is the performance of these RAM substantial compared to the premium which they command mean in the real world tests...... do we see a jump in performace of these as we see jumps when we overclock the GPUs n CPUs....

[thunder.02dragon]

This is GeekIIT's PC
Happy Gaming
http://i35.tinypic.com/2ihb0w9.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/2u97hb9.jpg

[nads]

neat cable managment........ pretty roomy cabinet........ wish i had mine with sooo much room..... i have a zebronics reaper n its cramped like anything......... any way is that the custom cooler on the CPU....... cause i can see the heat pipes n as far as i know stock coolers dont come with heat pipes..... just curious....

[thunder.02dragon]

^^no bro the PII X4 920/940 all these comes with Cu HeatPipe

[nads]

OIC..... i have a PII X2 550BE n i got a normal Al heat sink no heat pipes.... mebbe because of the low thermal envelope between the 2..... BTW what r the temps u r getting for the CPU n the GPU...... i hava a galaxy GTX260 n the same mobo which u have used n due to the bloody length n the witdh of the card i can use only 3 sata ports what bout u did u face the same situatoin or is it just me......:oops:

[azaad_shri75]

was it a micro ATX board or its a huge cabbie

[Krow]

CM 690 is a huge cabby... :)

[azaad_shri75]

CM 690 is a huge cabby... :)

wow that was cool.

could some suggest a good balanced rig for my colleague around 30k , both amd and intel would do, please standard equipment only.

[amogh]

hi guys
i have a compaq presario Sr1722il
i have intel pentium 4 processor 2.93 ghz
2 gb ddr2 667 mhz kingston ram
XFX8600gt 512mb ddr2 graphic card
one HDD seagate 80 gb (its Ide )
and one more hard disk western digital 750gb(Sata)
i am using windows vista business
My first problem is my sata hard disk drive WD 750 gb is removed after sometime when i start my pc and its disconnected after the pc is used for 5 to 10minutes sometimes after 1 hour
my other problem is
my processor fan start to revolve at 100% as soon as i start my pc and sound also comes from it if some process is executed
i have also replaced my sata cable then also problem continues and i have also got replaced my HDD by western digital then also same problem
Please help !
Thanks in advance!

[Krow]

wow that was cool.
could some suggest a good balanced rig for my colleague around 30k , both amd and intel would do, please standard equipment only.
Hmmm... 30k, do you need a monitor, speakers?

AMD Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k
ASUS M4A785G-TD-V EVO @ 6.9k
2x2GB DDR3 RAM @ 4.5k
Zebronics Bijli @ 1.6k
Samsung 2033SW @ 7k
Altec Lansing BXR1121 @ 1.2k
WD 640GB Caviar blue @ 3k
Corsair CX400W @ 3.2k OR Tagan TG500-U37 @ 3.2k
(If budget probs, then lemme know, this one is about 33.2k, but is the most VFM config you can buy now. In the worst case, get 2GB DDR3 instead of 4.)

hi guys
i have a compaq presario Sr1722il
i have intel pentium 4 processor 2.93 ghz
2 gb ddr2 667 mhz kingston ram
XFX8600gt 512mb ddr2 graphic card
one HDD seagate 80 gb (its Ide )
and one more hard disk western digital 750gb(Sata)
i am using windows vista business
My first problem is my sata hard disk drive WD 750 gb is removed after sometime when i start my pc and its disconnected after the pc is used for 5 to 10minutes sometimes after 1 hour
my other problem is
my processor fan start to revolve at 100% as soon as i start my pc and sound also comes from it if some process is executed
i have also replaced my sata cable then also problem continues and i have also got replaced my HDD by western digital then also same problem
Please help !
Thanks in advance!
Use any disk checking utility for your HDD. You can find it on the WD website or you may even use SeaTools for windows, which is a seagate utility but tests all HDD's. Run all tests and report.
Scan your PC for viruses with a fully updated antivirus.
Keep the side panel of cabby open while running the PC and report noise, if any.
Clear your cabby of dust and report noise, if any.

[geek_iit]

First of all, Thanks a lot to everyone for such nice comments about my rig! :D

The mobo is has a micro-ATX form factor and thunder really had a nightmare using the SATA ports! But he managed somehow by using an L-connector which he took out from his own rig! No wonder I am so impressed with him! Nice guy! :)

I am currently running it on Synmaster 152 S with a max res of 1024x768 (5 yrs old). But I'll take it back to Bhopal soon where it'll run on my 26" Samsung Series 4! :D

I have tested this with Crysis and DMC 4. The max system temperature was 45 and CPU temperature was 39 (after 3 hours of crysis on all highest settings). I guess the lower resolution is keeping the temperature low. The cabinet is currently in an enclosed area (space constraint) and its effectively running only on 3 fans now.

I used the Gigabyte Utility "Easy Tune" to monitor the CPU temperature. Please suggest any good utility to monitor the GFX card and CPU temperature simultaneously.

[desiibond]

Everest Ultimate
Sppedfan
realtemp

[amogh]

thnks for the suggestion but i have clear all the dust frm my pc using a blower also had done full system scan for viruses also chkd the Hard disk drive for any errors using utility frm western digital website but then also it keeps on dissonecting i have to reconnect the sata cable everytime i have tried all the above things then also problem continues its only with 750gb wd hdd please help

[Krow]

^No errors in the HDD and yet keeps disconnecting???

[azaad_shri75]

Techalomaniac, thank you very much, yes monitor and speakers also, he would using at home only not very resource hungry guy, any suggestions of intel platforms. (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=68917)
I think he would not mind shelling few more bucks.
(http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=68917)

[Krow]

@ azaad_shri75 Man, I'm telling everyone the SAME thing. Intel is having an upgrade of its lineup, so if you buy Intel at that budget, not only would you get the slower and outdated Core 2 Duo, but you will be stuck with an unupgradeable platform.

Next time you upgrade, you will have to buy a minimum of a mobo+cpu. With AMD, all AM2+ mobos support the newer AM3 socket so you will even be able to plug in the hexa-core(SIX cores!) Thuban that will launch early 2010.

Also, you dont need to spend on GFX as the onboard gfx is sufficient. so next time instead of upgradin the whole rig, you may simply buy a GFX and at the most a new proccy. :)

If you want Intel, then wait for core i3 to launch (a month or two) and then get Intel. Buying Intel now doesnt make much sense as AMD is better and gives more price to performance ratio and is upgradeable. All three places Intel is lagging.

[amogh]

yeps no error in hdd yet its disconnecting
i have got one replaced by western digital currently i am havin cavair black 750 gb 32mb buffer it has also same problem which earlier hdd had earlier hdd was also disconnecting so i had got it replaced by western digital earlier one was caviar blue 16 mb buffer

[Krow]

^Try changing the socket in mobo where you connect the HDD and report.
If the problem persists...
Try connecting the HDD to any friend's rig and run for some time and report.

[thunder.02dragon]

http://www.exoduspc.in/components/graphics.html
Check here for HD5870 & HD5850 exclusively in Kolkata from Exodus Technologies..
Sapphire HD5870 @ 26050/- +Taxes
Sapphire HD5850 @ 17050/- +Taxes

Preorder & Book your copy from today

[desiibond]

^^HD5850 pricing looks just okay but 26k for HD5870 is downright ridiculous and senseless and greedy and .....

[amogh]

hey i have many time change the socket in mobo then also same probl

[ak24]

Does the Asus M4A785GTD-V EVO has 512Mb integrated video ... ??

[Krow]

@ ak24 AFAIK, it is 128MB integrated video, which becomes 640mb as onboard graphics shares VRAM with your RAM modules. so 512MB shared RAM + 128MB onboard = 640MB GFX RAM! :)

[Xeno]

Techalomaniac is right :) I have the same motherboard

look at the below screenshot
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6793/atimemory.jpg

I have transcend 2GB module from which I shared 512MB, +128 = 640MB
In BIOS you have the option for manually selecting the amount of memory allocated to the VRAM as well as auto. In manual mode there are options [64,128,256,512, 1024] Since 1.5GB as of now is enough to run most of my apps I allocated 512MB to the VRAM.

[amogh]

hey i have many times change the socket in motherboard then also hard disk keeps on disconnecting

[Krow]

hey i have many times change the socket in motherboard then also hard disk keeps on disconnecting

Did you connect the HDD to someone else's PC? If yes, then please get the HDD replaced from WD.

ADD: I mean connect it to someone else's pc and see if it works normally or not.

[azaad_shri75]

Did you connect the HDD to someone else's PC? If yes, then please get the HDD replaced from WD.

also check power cable,mostly it would be creating probs.

[vaibhav_jain]

today i go to nehru place in delhi to purchase CORSAIR VX450W FOR Rs. 4200/= AT SMC INTERNATIONAL AND AT COMPUTER EMPIRE FOR Rs. 4000/= BUT BAD DAY FOR ME NOT AVAILABLE AT SMC INTERNATIONAL AND I DONT WANT TO PURCHASE IT FROM COMPUTER EMPIRE. CAN ANYONE SUGGEST SOME OTHER GOOD SHOPS IN NEHRU PLACE. I ALSO WANT TO PURCHASE ZOTAC 9600GT ECO EDITION AND SURPRISINGLY NOT AVAILABLE IN THAT MARKET. SUGGEST ME THE SHOP FOR ZOTAC ALSO. IF POSSIBLE GIVE THE CONTACT NO.S OF THESE SHOPS. THANKS IN ADVANCE!!

ALSO WD 500GB HDD INTERNAL IS AVAILABLE AT 2600 BUCKS AT COMPUTER EMPIRE.
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today i go to nehru place in delhi to purchase CORSAIR VX450W FOR Rs. 4200/= AT SMC INTERNATIONAL AND AT COMPUTER EMPIRE FOR Rs. 4000/= BUT BAD DAY FOR ME NOT AVAILABLE AT SMC INTERNATIONAL AND I DONT WANT TO PURCHASE IT FROM COMPUTER EMPIRE. CAN ANYONE SUGGEST SOME OTHER GOOD SHOPS IN NEHRU PLACE. I ALSO WANT TO PURCHASE ZOTAC 9600GT ECO EDITION AND SURPRISINGLY NOT AVAILABLE IN THAT MARKET. SUGGEST ME THE SHOP FOR ZOTAC ALSO. IF POSSIBLE GIVE THE CONTACT NO.S OF THESE SHOPS. THANKS IN ADVANCE!!

ALSO WD 500GB HDD INTERNAL IS AVAILABLE AT 2600 BUCKS AT COMPUTER EMPIRE.

[letmein]

Try RR systems. It's 103 Bajaj House I think.

[Krow]

@vaibhav, please don't use CAPS in your posts. We all can read small letter posts. :)

[nads]

hey guys m planning to buy an MFD fax is not important if it has then thats gud...... will be doing lots of printouts for my sis who is in fashion desgining..... so economy is of prime importance (price per page)..... and refilling cartridges should not be a problem at all (should be done easily everywhere in mumbai) thats all ur suggestions r welcome guys............pls help

regards

[vaibhav_jain]

thnks for the suggestion but i have clear all the dust frm my pc using a blower also had done full system scan for viruses also chkd the Hard disk drive for any errors using utility frm western digital website but then also it keeps on dissonecting i have to reconnect the sata cable everytime i have tried all the above things then also problem continues its only with 750gb wd hdd please help


i am also facing this problem and dont know the solution. I have gigabyte g31 motherboard and wd hdd 250gb, everytimes i start my hdd is not detected so i have to restart two or three times but these days my hdd is not detected permanently. Please tell me what is the solution.

[Akhil Jain]

is asusp4p800 e deluxe (865 pe based for p4) available at nehru place and at what price??
my old mobo has blown up...
i have p4 2.4 ghz northwood and agp card 6800xt ...
budget is max 5k
also on my last visit to nehru place 3 weeks ago , ifound that they were selling 17' and 19'" true flat crt written dell on them..
there was no box.. the shop was on ground floor and they have 100 of dell crts.. in 4500 to 6000 each..
are they original delll and reliable??
should i buy one?
i have mentioned i have xfx 6800xt agp 8x , 1.5 gb ram..
currently having samsung 17"crt with 1024* 768 @ 80 hz
my monitor is also showing signs of aging..
sometimes showing red or blue tint in middle of something.
I choose crt as to watch old films which r full screen and not widescreen.(lappy for that purpose) so , this will act as my retro pc running win xp to play old movies and old games(before 2004).
suggest me a good mobo (with full oc features), and a monitor ?
availability in nehru place atwhat price.
also if total does not exceed 11k then i wud also like to buy a decent tv tuner card.. that is able to save HD content available through DTH services like tata sky and videocon ( future proof). + mandriva linux compatible..

[vaibhav_jain]

Corsair VX 450W PSU is available in delhi market at 4100 bucks.

[ak24]

Unable to get Asus M4A785GTD-V EVO ... asked in lamington ... they are giving me other option of ASUS ...also they say they dont have AMD Athlon II X4 620 ... they are giving me option for Phenom X4 ... total cost of MB and Processor comes to 16550 /- ... is the price fine or should i look for other options ...???

[Krow]

^Buy from www.lynx-india.com. They will ship it to your place. If you don't like the idea of buying from a chandigarh based e-store, then :

www.theitwares.com
Mumbai shop, lamington road andgood rates too. Plus he is bound to have the board and the proccy. Also at lamington, you can try www.primeabgb.com

[kbk]

Hello friends, can you tell me the which ones better
Asus M4A785GTD-V EVO (better onboard graphics)
MSI 790GX-G65
considering external GPU will be used like Ati HD 4850, onboard graphics makes no diff., infact will do without onboard gfx but have not seen affordable boards without onbaord gfx.

wrt Crossfire:
Asus one has 16x-4x(I think Crossfire makes no sense here) whereas
MSI one has 16x-8x.
both are priced almost similar(probably diff. of about 100/- or 200/-)

[Krow]

Does MSI one have DDR3 RAM? If no, then ASUS it is, else go for MSI if you wanna OC. IMO that ASUS board rocks.

[topgear]

MSI 790GX-G65 supports DDR3. So it's better to go with MSI 790GX-G65 as it OCes well compared to 785G :p

[kbk]

MSI 790GX-G65 supports DDR3. So it's better to go with MSI 790GX-G65 as it OCes well compared to 785G :p
Thanks topgear !

why people are after "Asus M4A785GTD-V EVO" instead of MSI one, when both the MB are almost similar with MSI having a little edge in performance(Please correct me if otherwise)
Even comp@addict chose "Asus M4A785GTD-V EVO" for his new rig.

I know Asus is reliable, even I have/had only Asus mb, 2 of them, one of them was expensive. Both of them never lasted more than 2 yr or so :-?. never overclocked as I was afraid, now i think I should have OCed and they would have lasted longer :).

So can anyone point me to the best between the two (or any other board better than these in similar price point). (considering CPU as AMD Athlon II 620)

Asus M4A78TD-V-EVO - AMD 785G/SB710 - Rs 7100/-
MSI 790GX-G65 - AMD® 790GX/SB750 - Rs 7250/-
(source theITWares.com)

[desiibond]

in my case, it's simple. I trust Gigabyte and ASUS more than any other mobo manufacturers (for AMD).

[Krow]

Also, the ASUS board has better IGP and hence people who plan to buy a gfx card later buy it.

@ kbk Are you an overclocker? If yes, then get MSI, else the ASUS board is solid and performs really good. :)

[thunder.02dragon]

ASUS M4A785TD-V-EVO on Stock...Wont list on Site though If any one require I can sell him price 7025/- + Taxes

[Ronnie11]

hey guys,i have a prob regarding the price of a speaker...i had asked for help for speaker in the 2k range...desiibond suggested Altec lansing VS4121...now i was about to order this speaker thinking it will be in mid 2k or something but i asked this dealer & he quoted me the price as 3800 bucks...is this right?has speaker prices skyrocked or something?Could anyone tell me the price in lamington road?is it any less?its not listed in theitwares site...i can afford till 2800...i need to purchase this by this week...& i heard these speakers are good...

[Krow]

Have a look at the BXR1121 model by Altec Lansing too. They are good enough unless you are an audiophile.

[thunder.02dragon]

@Ronnie
The price of VS4121 is right... its good on price and quality

[topgear]

Thanks topgear !

why people are after "Asus M4A785GTD-V EVO" instead of MSI one, when both the MB are almost similar with MSI having a little edge in performance(Please correct me if otherwise)
Even comp@addict chose "Asus M4A785GTD-V EVO" for his new rig.

I know Asus is reliable, even I have/had only Asus mb, 2 of them, one of them was expensive. Both of them never lasted more than 2 yr or so :-?. never overclocked as I was afraid, now i think I should have OCed and they would have lasted longer :).

So can anyone point me to the best between the two (or any other board better than these in similar price point). (considering CPU as AMD Athlon II 620)

Asus M4A78TD-V-EVO - AMD 785G/SB710 - Rs 7100/-
MSI 790GX-G65 - AMD® 790GX/SB750 - Rs 7250/-
(source theITWares.com)

The pricing of MSI 790GX-G65 is just too good. Get that without any second thought:p

[Cool G5]

Latest Quotes of LCD Monitors from Lamington Road, Mumbai.

Samsung P2350 = Rs.11,400
Samsung 2233SW = Rs.9,350
Samsung P2250 = Rs.10,600
Dell S2409W = Rs.14,500

All prices courtesy of Prime ABGB.

[Krow]

The Samsung P2350 is a super deal. Although the Dell S2409W is a rip-off.

[kbk]

The pricing of MSI 790GX-G65 is just too good. Get that without any second thought:p

Thanks topgear !

and

Wish all of u a very Happy Diwali and Prosperous New Year !!!

[sxyadii]

Sapphire HD5870 - Rs.27950
Sapphire HD5850 - Rs.17650

[tkin]

Sapphire HD5870 - Rs.27950
Sapphire HD5850 - Rs.17650
Meh.......................

Reduce prices amd, for the sake of gamers.

[desiibond]

^^they are sure that nvidia won't be releasing fermi till next year so they are at an advantage :)

[saqib_khan]

I too dont think they'll reduce the prices in near future. Only after Nvidia's release, they are going to reduce the prices.

[AVSEQ]

Can someone suggest the UPS rating for this config......

Intel Core2Quad Q9400 2.66Ghz
ASUS P5Q
GTX 275
2GB RAM
HDD SATA 500GB
CoolerMaster SMPS 650W

[topgear]

A 600VA Ups will do provided you are running a TFT screen which does not consumes more than 60W.

If you want to be in safe side then get a 800VA ups which I recommend for complete peace of mind and future proofing too :p

[desiibond]

^^no. 600VA won't be enough for a quadcore + GTX275 rig. to get a 15 minute backup, a 1kVA is absolutely necessary for that 650W PSU.

Also, a 650VA UPS has max power output capacity of 390 Watts. And this can give backup of 13.5 minutes for a load of 195 Watts.

A 1kVA UPS has max power output capacity of 670 Watts and gives 20.6 minutes backup if load is at 335 Watts.

[thunder.02dragon]

I agree with desi...
If 1KVA is to be calculated it gives 600W and 1.1KVA it gives 660W and according
Refer APC sites..these ratings are based on APC but low end UPS 's wattage ratings is much lower than this..

[sxyadii]

Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Cooler Fan Amd Intel -Rs.1900

[tkin]

^^no. 600VA won't be enough for a quadcore + GTX275 rig. to get a 15 minute backup, a 1kVA is absolutely necessary for that 650W PSU.

Also, a 650VA UPS has max power output capacity of 390 Watts. And this can give backup of 13.5 minutes for a load of 195 Watts.

A 1kVA UPS has max power output capacity of 670 Watts and gives 20.6 minutes backup if load is at 335 Watts.
The load rating in websites are a damn lie, look at my system, That APC 650VA UPS gives me 35-45mins backup(only system with minimal load-song playing, browsing, nothing else connected to it, have got separate UPS for monitor).

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2681/capture007w.png

[topgear]

@ desiibond and thunder - extreme outverson PSU calculator lite showed that his rig will consume 300-350W. So I thougt if he wants the absolute minimum backup then he should get a good branded 600VA ups as most of the users don't play games ( i know he has a gtx 275 with quad core ) when there is a power cut.

As you said a 650VA will give him around 13 mins so I thought a 600VA will give him backup time of 10 mins and a 800VA say around 20 mins which I think is sufficient to save data, close all apps and shutdown the pc safely.

BTW, he had not mentiond what type of work he will do when there is a power cut and
his budget - so it's kinda difficult to suggest a ups as for some people 10-20 mins will do under low load and for some that won't be enough.

[desiibond]

it's not just when there is a power cut. if I connect load more than 300W to my 500VA, it keeps on beeping (even when power is on) that it is not able to give power output. so, it is recommended to have enough juice in UPS.

[AVSEQ]

O I see....
Seems it's right to go for 1 kVA. Any idea how much 1 kVA APC will cost?

[desiibond]

should be around 5k.

[AVSEQ]

Okay. Thanks a lot. :smile:

[monkey]

Sapphire HD5870 - Rs.27950
Sapphire HD5850 - Rs.17650

Where u got these prices from dude? They are very high. Some online dealers are providing these cards for much less amount. Even on ebay.in HD5870 is selling for less than 27k!!

[sxyadii]

Where u got these prices from dude? They are very high. Some online dealers are providing these cards for much less amount. Even on ebay.in HD5870 is selling for less than 27k!!

These prices are from TheITWares.....can you gimme link of others online dealers?

[monkey]

Check Here: Erodov (http://www.erodov.com/forums/annihilator-among-gpus-sapphire-ati-hd5870/25454.html)

[sxyadii]

Check Here: Erodov (http://www.erodov.com/forums/annihilator-among-gpus-sapphire-ati-hd5870/25454.html)
Thnx,but this is a forum

[monkey]

Well nearly all online dealers (ITWares, Lynx, Yantra Online, Buyinggaming stuff etc.) have their presence at Erodov and Techenclave. Funny thing is that they provide better deals on these forums rather than on their own websites as if they are into promoting these forums rather than their own site.

[Krow]

^^They can get more group orders at forums due to a large community and in bulk, they get better deals from distributors. That's what I figured out at least.

[thunder.02dragon]

Well I think I have 2nd best/best Pricing of all
www.exoduspc.in

[topgear]

it's not just when there is a power cut. if I connect load more than 300W to my 500VA, it keeps on beeping (even when power is on) that it is not able to give power output. so, it is recommended to have enough juice in UPS.

Yup, you just can't overload a ups :p

BTW, I though 1KVA APC ups is Rs. around 7-9K
and 800VA one is Rs. 5.4K

Can you tell me or give me some link where 1KVA APC ups is available for 5K - just curious to know :p

[desiibond]

there are two models in APC. one comes with monitoring app and port. that costs around 8k. other one is 1.1kvA that doesn't have any monitoring facility. this one costs 5k-5.5k. you can check itwares and previous posts in digit

[thunder.02dragon]

Well Topgear I can arrange you 1 on that infact i will be buyn 1 fr me ttoo near future

[topgear]

there are two models in APC. one comes with monitoring app and port. that costs around 8k. other one is 1.1kvA that doesn't have any monitoring facility. this one costs 5k-5.5k. you can check itwares and previous posts in digit

Thanks for informing me :p

Well Topgear I can arrange you 1 on that infact i will be buyn 1 fr me ttoo near future

Thanks for your generous offer but as of now I don't need a APC ups :p

[asigh]

The Samsung P2350 is a super deal. Although the Dell S2409W is a rip-off.

Why is it a rip-off. I think the 24" Full HD DELL is a great deal for ~12.5K...?

should be around 5k.

Last year I got my 1.1KVA APC for 4.8K (without monitoring software). My APC 650VA could not support the Xfire at full load.

Yup, you just can't overload a ups :p

BTW, I though 1KVA APC ups is Rs. around 7-9K
and 800VA one is Rs. 5.4K

Can you tell me or give me some link where 1KVA APC ups is available for 5K - just curious to know :p

It retails around 4.8K-5K. The APC 1.1KVA (without monitoring software)

[topgear]

WoW! 1.1KVA ups from brand like apc @ around 5K is really cheap :p

[Krow]

Why is it a rip-off. I think the 24" Full HD DELL is a great deal for ~12.5K...?
Erm... I was replying to Cool G5's post. He had got a deal for S2409W for 14.5k. :)

[nads]

guys need to buy a aftermarket CPU cooler cant decide which one to go for..... my specs r....

AMD phenom II X2 550BE
Gigabyte MA78GMUS2H
4GB RAM DDR2@800Mhz
250 GB HDD Seagate
2 DVD RW Drives
VIP 600W PSU
Case is Zebronics Reaper

m planning to overclock my cpu when i m playing games i can do 3.7Ghz on stock voltage n cooler n m getting temps of 55-56C..... (which is ok in my opinion) but i want to goo further n increase the voltage..... i have 3.8Ghz stable at 1.625V but the temps then go to 58-59C n i think if i will be overclocking n the temp hovers at 60C its not gud for the cpu life (m intending to keep this proccy for another 2 yrs) hence the decision to go for an aftermarket cooler i luv the core contact cooler but the height of 155mm is too much for my cabinet (bloody cabinet dosent have much space vertically+ the side fans intrude inwrds)..... so if u guys could recomend me a ghud air cooler will appreciate that.....

m looking to set 2 HDD in RAID 0 config for my system each drive should be 500GB n have narrowed down to WD 500GB with 32MB cache...... could u guys pls tell me the price n is it ok with this choice..... n is the PSU sufficient..... or should i go with 1 HDD... please comment.........



NB: what do u guys think abt this sunbeam Tuniq Propeller 120 CPU Cooler .....

[Krow]

Thermalright Ultima90i is a good option for you. I would not buy a VIP 600W PSU although it is sufficient but it is not reliable. Reaper... damngoodman999 has the same case and he could fit the ASUS Silent Knight in it. Look for the OCZ Vendetta 2 which is better than CCF if it fits that is.

[topgear]

@ nads - RAID0 give significant speed improvement. So if you have a 120mm front fan atleast stick with raid 0 but not that your all data will lost if any one HDd carches though. If don't need too much dfaster game loading time then you can stick with 1-1.5TB singl HDD :p

[nads]

thx guys for ur reply.....

@krow----- thx for ur recommendations but i dont think they will suffice asus silent knight is not a gud cooler i checked out the reviews ( but it looks awesome) Thermalright Ultima90i is gud but not the best bang for the price n it dosent come with a fan thats a big disadvantage n it increases the cost a lot..... i just wanna know if a 160mm cooler could fit in my cabinet anyone has tried it or not because if i purchase one then no one will take it back if it dosent fit..... if i remove my 120mm fan from my side panel then i have an exactr 165mm distance from the proccy to the side panel after closing it..... but still i m afraid of taking a lunge..... the coolers i have narrowed down are sunbeam core contact freezer 120mm iit costs around 2700/- n its performance is really gud in the region of thermalrights ultra 120 u can check it out here http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2271 there is also a 92mm core contact cooler but its efficiency is not as gud as 120 http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2386&page=4 i also like the Tuniq Propeller 120 CPU Cooler but i m unable to find any reviews i really like its design but dunno how will it perform in real world as i told u i need functionality over looks.....

@topgear i m aware of RAID 0 disadvantges but i want faster seek times for games n specially FSX which i m using..... i need to know one more thing topgear how much effect will Cache memory have on real world performance cause there r 16MB n 32 MB WD drives pls advice me which one to go for 16MB cache 500GB is costing me 2700/- n 32MB Cache 500GB is costing me 3000/- so is it worth the difference......

lookin forward to ur reply.... ADIO...

[Krow]

SBCCF ahould be about 2.5k and OCZ Vendetta 2 about 2.6k. Get the Vendetta 2 IMO.

[nads]

thx KROW for ur recommendation i suggest u see this chart http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2279&page=4 the SCCF is much better n it has 4 heat pipes 1 more than the vendetta so i guess thats an advantage.... the vendetta is no doubt quiter than the SCCF but i dont mind the sound ( cause will be overclocking it only when have to play games) but my options r open any other HS for me pls let me know.....

[Krow]

The SBCCF is a great cooler no doubt, but quite a few people have complained about installation problems. IMO its a bit of a dicey buy, but it does the job well. You may buy it as it does perform well.

[topgear]

@ nads - if you want the best then your best bet for AMD cpu is TRUE 120 do note that it does not come with a fan so you need buy a separate 120mm fan.

[nads]

thx guys for ur recommendations really appreciate it..... @topgear r u talking about the thermalright ultra extreme 120 (m didnt understand TRUE 120 if thats an acronym)..... no doubt thats the best cooler out there nothing can beat it..... but my problem is that my case isnt very roomy n TRUE 120 wont fit in my case number 2 it costs like 3200 minus the fan which i have to purchase n that will add to another 600bucks for a quality one..... so the total price come to around 3800 which is a lot for an air cooling solution IMHO third m not going to keep an overclocked cpu for 24x7 only when the demands come.... m pretty much satisfied with the performance it gives but i wanted to keep my proccy cool as much as possible.... so TRUE 120 was out of question... now see the pros of SCCF 120
--- it comes bundled with the high quality MFDB fan (its black though would luv an LED one)
---it comes with a fan controller which we can adjust the speed (TRUE 120 lacks)
---n it costs 2500 bucks (TRUE 120 3800 including the fan thats a diff of 1300)

anywayz i already got the SCCF 120 yesterday evening after much pondering n luckily it fit my case (there is only 5-7mm gap between the case n the side panel) i have to forgo my 120mm side panel intake fan though n i attached that fan behind the case to pull the air directly from the SCCF 120 exhaust air..... installation was like hell i still have bruises from the heatsink fins on my palm..... it was that tough really (this is my first aftermarket cooler) i dunno if u install all coolers that way but i was sweating like hell due to all the muscle wrenching i was doing with the HS to latch it up...... n secondly i was afraid if the motherboard was bent or what not so it was pretty tense but it was done.... n i m pretty happy with it cause my temperatures have dropped like 18C than the stock AMD HS which has left a grin on my face i can overclock my Phenom II X2 550BE to 3.7Ghz on stock voltages n m getting temps of 41Cpreviously this would go to 58-59C on stock cooling undergoing a stress test on OCCT..... was afraid of cranking voltages on stock HS but will do it today..... n here r the results which i got (preliminary types but once when the Tuniq TQ2 will set in properly after some days use it will give a lower temp...
ambient temp 33C
idle temp (lo spd fan)---33-34C
( high spd)----28-29C
17min stability test in AMD overdrive utility 100% cpu
load temp (lo spd)----46-47C
(high spd)--40-41C
one more thing my computer is in a room where there is no air conditioning..... so i guess the performance will increase n we will et to see lower temps if that were possible...... anyhow m really having a big grin on my face n will give u the results in a day or 2......

NB: what do u guys think of the temperatures pls let me know if its normal or on the higher side since this is the first aftermarket HSC i have so not much of n idea..... ur comments r welcome......

thx.... @krow n topgear for helping me out......

[Krow]

thx guys for ur recommendations really appreciate it..... @topgear r u talking about the thermalright ultra extreme 120 (m didnt understand TRUE 120 if thats an acronym)..... no doubt thats the best cooler out there nothing can beat it..... but my problem is that my case isnt very roomy n TRUE 120 wont fit in my case number 2 it costs like 3200 minus the fan which i have to purchase n that will add to another 600bucks for a quality one..... so the total price come to around 3800 which is a lot for an air cooling solution IMHO third m not going to keep an overclocked cpu for 24x7 only when the demands come.... m pretty much satisfied with the performance it gives but i wanted to keep my proccy cool as much as possible.... so TRUE 120 was out of question... now see the pros of SCCF 120
--- it comes bundled with the high quality MFDB fan (its black though would luv an LED one)
---it comes with a fan controller which we can adjust the speed (TRUE 120 lacks)
---n it costs 2500 bucks (TRUE 120 3800 including the fan thats a diff of 1300)

anywayz i already got the SCCF 120 yesterday evening after much pondering n luckily it fit my case (there is only 5-7mm gap between the case n the side panel) i have to forgo my 120mm side panel intake fan though n i attached that fan behind the case to pull the air directly from the SCCF 120 exhaust air..... installation was like hell i still have bruises from the heatsink fins on my palm..... it was that tough really (this is my first aftermarket cooler) i dunno if u install all coolers that way but i was sweating like hell due to all the muscle wrenching i was doing with the HS to latch it up...... n secondly i was afraid if the motherboard was bent or what not so it was pretty tense but it was done.... n i m pretty happy with it cause my temperatures have dropped like 18C than the stock AMD HS which has left a grin on my face i can overclock my Phenom II X2 550BE to 3.7Ghz on stock voltages n m getting temps of 41Cpreviously this would go to 58-59C on stock cooling undergoing a stress test on OCCT..... was afraid of cranking voltages on stock HS but will do it today..... n here r the results which i got (preliminary types but once when the Tuniq TQ2 will set in properly after some days use it will give a lower temp...
ambient temp 33C
idle temp (lo spd fan)---33-34C
( high spd)----28-29C
17min stability test in AMD overdrive utility 100% cpu
load temp (lo spd)----46-47C
(high spd)--40-41C
one more thing my computer is in a room where there is no air conditioning..... so i guess the performance will increase n we will et to see lower temps if that were possible...... anyhow m really having a big grin on my face n will give u the results in a day or 2......

NB: what do u guys think of the temperatures pls let me know if its normal or on the higher side since this is the first aftermarket HSC i have so not much of n idea..... ur comments r welcome......

thx.... @krow n topgear for helping me out......

Post pics.
Did you buy SBCCF or Tuniq ?
TRUE 120 that I own was for 2.8k, so plus fan becomes lesser although still expensive.
Temps at high speed fan are OCed ones right? If yes, then GREAT temps.
Please use shorter paras for your posts, makes longer ones easier to read.
Installation has been a complaint by many users for SB coolers. I installed my TRUE 120 without much difficulty horizontally although vertical installation is a bit difficult.

Use Intel Burn Test (linpack) for stability test as it is the one test which will give you highest temps. Run it with max ram usage. The test is completed in around an hour max (was half an hour for me).

[topgear]

@ nads - the temps you are getting with SBCCF 120mm is just great ( is it with OCed speed ? ). For system stability and load temp test run prime95 for an hour atleast and post the load temp with some screenshots. use a app called coretemp to measure the idle and load temps correctly.

As for HDD go for the 32MB buffer models. For just Rs. 300 more they worth every bucks you pay.

BTW, don't forget to check out these two thread :p
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121070
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121310

[Techn0crat]

Can anybody please post prices of TB HDDs?
Thanks

[Krow]

Seagate 1TB 7200.12 is for 3975 @ PrimeABGB, Mumbai. www.primeabgb.com
Same place WD Caviar Green is for 4,075.

[nads]

hey guys thx.... n yes the temps which i posted were @3.8 Stock voltages(was able to get 3.7Ghz at stock Voltages on stock HS @3.8 was not stable)..... i m attaching OCCT linpack test results here with CPUZ screenshot..... didnt test with prime 95 but will get it done once i get time but i think OCCT linpack is sufficient.... m able to extract more fps in FS9 FSX (its a cpu intensive game)..... @ topgear will go for the 32MB Cache HDD as u suggest but how much is the peformance diff would like to know that.....

@KROW i have purchased Sunbeam Core contact Freezer 120mm not the new tuniqs ( i like them though) one more thing i would like to share with u guys is that when i was using the stock AMD cooler with the horizontal HS my cabbie temps were 1-2C higher than the ambient temp.... with the SBCCF it is now at par with the ambient temp... tht relates to gud airflow in the cabbie... so m pretty happy with that tooo.... here r the pics of the SCCF cooler notice how close it is to the side panel barely made it.....

Pics of SCCF 120mm------ http://img694.imageshack.us/g/dsc06400.jpg/

CPUZ validation link------- http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=817307

OCCT linpack test--------- http://img22.imageshack.us/g/2009110814h44cpu1.png/

pls give ur feedback.....thx


NB: guys as u can see from the cpuZ screenshot the voltage is 1.408V but in AMD overdrive utility it shows 1.350V (i havent touch voltages yet its at default honest) could someone explain me.... m i missing something....

[thunder.02dragon]

Can anybody please post prices of TB HDDs?
Thanks
Check the Prices here..
http://www.exoduspc.in/components/hdds1.html
WD Black 1TB is only 6150/-+taxes
100/- discount :P

[se7en_sg]

Hi,

I am looking for a decent PCI Sound-Card with 5.1 channel support within a budget of 2K - 2.5K.
It'll be used mainly for games, movies, etc.

Please suggest some brands/models..

[thunder.02dragon]

Well I am selling ASUS Xonar U1 for 3300+taxes..
Its better than rest

[topgear]

@ nads - Nice temps and screenshots :p

More HDD cahe really improves performance if you are working with large sequental files most of the time like installing games, loading game contents, big images and CAD/CAM and multimedia files of those animations apps like maya or 3Ds max. As of now I just cannot provide you any link but digit guys have tested HDDs on mag and on those 32mb cache HDds models outperformed their 16Mb siblings. Also 32MB hdds has lower access time.

[nads]

Thx @ topgear..... n will be going with the 32MB Cache drives 500GB HDD..... topgear one more question.... is there any performance difference between WD blu n green series apart from the low power consumption of the WD Green....

can anyone pls tell me why r the DDR2 RAM rates have gone sooo high...... n when we will see them drop again..... need to purchase DDR2 1066Mhz..... whats the price in mumbai feeling lazy to find out at lamington.....:grin: ( i dont need performance modules value range from kingston or transcend will suffice)

[puneetgarg]

Seagate 1TB 7200.12 is for 3975 @ PrimeABGB, Mumbai. www.primeabgb.com (http://www.primeabgb.com)
Same place WD Caviar Green is for 4,075.
omg...1TB's gone really that cheap i can't believe it :!:

[hell_storm2006]

Dont think DDR2 will drop anymore. Its the change of guard for RAM's. DDR3 prices will drop since its becoming mainstream and DDR2 since they are slowly fading away will go up! Its same thing that happens every time RAM's change.

[Krow]

^That's what I had said sometime back and MHG had disagreed. :p Well I got my super deal just before the rise in price and bought OCZ CL4 Titanium 2x2GB 800MHz for 1650x2.

[topgear]

Thx @ topgear..... n will be going with the 32MB Cache drives 500GB HDD..... topgear one more question.... is there any performance difference between WD blu n green series apart from the low power consumption of the WD Green....

can anyone pls tell me why r the DDR2 RAM rates have gone sooo high...... n when we will see them drop again..... need to purchase DDR2 1066Mhz..... whats the price in mumbai feeling lazy to find out at lamington.....:grin: ( i dont need performance modules value range from kingston or transcend will suffice)

WD Blue series performs better as it's meant for speed but green series has a lower RPM rate and slow speed as this was meant for power saving a low heat generation and in those kind of usage where you need only a lot of storage space but not great speed.

But If you want the best then get WD black series drives. They are the best in speed and costs around Rs. 6.2-6.5K for 1TB :p

Corsair 2x 1GB Kit and 2x 2GB kit will cost you Rs. 4.7 and 9K receptively

[nads]

@krow i envy u.... i was getting DDR2800 @ 1100/- when the prices were at the lowest but as usaul i said wait it will drop more.... then i was away for 3-4months n i came back i got prices abou 1750 2-3 months back when i got my phenom..... n now 2GB800 DDr2 is costing me 2275/- ..... Grrrrr i deadly misjudgement by me.....

@topgear no doubt WD black is faster than all the other drives but i have read some time back mebbe in digit or net that 2 drives is RAID0 is still faster than the black series.... the green series is out of question i cant have lower speed @ cost of power saving.... i checked on the WD website the power saving is effective only in idle/standby mode... but i dont need that cause i use the desktop for gaming n encodings only so the savings wont be substantial.....

guys i m again confuse by going with HDDs some r saying Seagate is better n some r saying WD is better, some even say that seagate is having problems n their HDD have a high rate of failure compare to WD.... i have both seagate n WD HDD experience both r the same but i feel the WD is quiter than seagate (noticed in my laptops) n some say performace of WD is better..... so guys please tell me what to go for.... but this spec is confirmed HDD 500GBX2 32MB cache now which brand to go with u guyshelp me decide.... thx

[Krow]

Its not like Hitachi/Samsung are horrible drives either. My Seagate 500GB failed on me twice in one year. My Hitachi 160GB running 3 years no probs.

WD Green is not for you. I would recommend WD Blue or Seagate 7200.12. Please pray before you buy either. Its more like a jackpot these days. Regarding the drive failure, WD dirves also have failure issues, but not as high as Seagate 7200.11 series. Seagate 7200.12 series is not that failure prone though.

[nads]

Hmmmmm thinking of going with seagate 7200.12 500GB..... any other comments from anyone.......

NB would like to hear from pplz who have set their drive in RAID0 configs.....

[topgear]

I would also recommend seagate anyday over WD ( HDds are something of personal choice too ) :p

I know if a HDD just carshed on someone the impression would be very bad as you can loose a lot of critical data ( my 80GB seagate Hdd once craches ).

BTW, the prob with 7200.11 were fixed with new firmwire update ( as upgraded mine I know that ) and the 7200.12 series drives are known to be that firmwire bug free :p

[thunder.02dragon]

WD 's are better than the Seagate..was selling Seagate before but now only WD as they perform much better and they are Quiter..
WD Blacks are great HDD's get them if you want raw Performance
2x 1TB WD Black will blow you away...
Velociraptors are costlier though

[nads]

thx @topgear i have never had a seagate HDD fail on me till today n have been using seagates all my life recently only i have been using WD blue which i have in my Dell Studio 15 n samsung NC10.... i have an old seaget 40GB HDD drive which i use as a portable HDD for the last 5 years n it is still working gr8 n has never given me any trouble....

I researched on the 16 n 32MB Caches also couldnt find much of a difference..... but one thing i concludede is that if u r going with a higher size HDD (like above1TB) then the cache is useful (i even came across 64MB Cache tooo) n when there is heavy duty writing on the HDD (read server or database Applications) as far as read is concern it dosent make much of a diffrence even between 8 n 16MB cache..... n i inquired seagate dosent have 32MB cache drives in 500GB range so will go with 16MB cache drives its costing me 2500 each.... WD is costlier dunno y....

Feeling lazy to install all the stuff to the new RAID 0 setup.... have a lot of files from FS9 which will take 3-4days to install so will procure them when m in the mood... till then will be harrassing u guys with my questions...:razz:
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Posted again:
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WD 's are better than the Seagate..was selling Seagate before but now only WD as they perform much better and they are Quiter..
WD Blacks are great HDD's get them if you want raw Performance
2x 1TB WD Black will blow you away...
Velociraptors are costlier though


Thx man... if u could show me some place where i can find a comparision between these 2 drives will luv that.... i tried but i couldnt get anything.... my budget is 5-6Ks nothing more i know WD black r awesome but i think they cost 4Ks each.... :sad:

@thunder.02dragon what do u think which drives will be better in RAID 0 config..... pls enlighten me man.... :?

[Krow]

Velociraptors are a waste of money. Better get an SSD than a velociraptor. Although WD Black is awesome.

[nads]

Velociraptors are a waste of money. Better get an SSD than a velociraptor. Although WD Black is awesome.

agree with u krow velociraptors r a waste now since SSDs r in the market n in due time when SSD rates will drop n when they r available mainstream like HDDs.... we will be wondering what we were doing with HDDs in olden days...... :-P i think in 4-5 years time SSDs will be the norm.....

[sjoardar]

@thunder.02dragon: How about 2X500GB WD Black? I am not really upto 2X1TB, unless the former makes for a really poor Rs/GB ratio.

[thunder.02dragon]

@sjoardar
Sir 500GB Black is not available, I m getting 1TB black only (thats to after loads of requests :P) Still I might give a try(I see 0% chances though). For now please consider 1TB Blacks..





Thx man... if u could show me some place where i can find a comparision between these 2 drives will luv that.... i tried but i couldnt get anything.... my budget is 5-6Ks nothing more i know WD black r awesome but i think they cost 4Ks each.... :sad:

@thunder.02dragon what do u think which drives will be better in RAID 0 config..... pls enlighten me man.... :?


@nads
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2404&page=2
Here 1TB Blacks in RAID0 Double the performance sir..
You might not find exact info, here just you have to judge...check the WD RAID0 SATA2 Green/Blue review and consider this same on Black which is said to be 20-40% faster

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1077/10/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hitachi-western-digital-terabyte,2017-5.html

[topgear]

WD 's are better than the Seagate..was selling Seagate before but now only WD as they perform much better and they are Quiter..
WD Blacks are great HDD's get them if you want raw Performance
2x 1TB WD Black will blow you away...
Velociraptors are costlier though

For choice between HDD it depends much on personal choice and previous experiences :p

Yup, I also think that 2x WD Black in Raid 0 may be a little faster in 7200 RPM drive category But I think even 2x WD Blue series or seagate 2x 7200.12 series drives also gives good performance. They may give by far 10MB less bandwidth in Raid 0 but they also costs less. When you use 2x HDds in RAID0 there is not much use of the dual proc of WD Black series. If you are using WD black as a single drive then it's the fastest of all 7200RPM drives I think.

In Raid0 mode drives RPM speed takes a major role other than dual proc.

thx @topgear i have never had a seagate HDD fail on me till today n have been using seagates all my life recently only i have been using WD blue which i have in my Dell Studio 15 n samsung NC10.... i have an old seaget 40GB HDD drive which i use as a portable HDD for the last 5 years n it is still working gr8 n has never given me any trouble....

I researched on the 16 n 32MB Caches also couldnt find much of a difference..... but one thing i concludede is that if u r going with a higher size HDD (like above1TB) then the cache is useful (i even came across 64MB Cache tooo) n when there is heavy duty writing on the HDD (read server or database Applications) as far as read is concern it dosent make much of a diffrence even between 8 n 16MB cache..... n i inquired seagate dosent have 32MB cache drives in 500GB range so will go with 16MB cache drives its costing me 2500 each.... WD is costlier dunno y....

Feeling lazy to install all the stuff to the new RAID 0 setup.... have a lot of files from FS9 which will take 3-4days to install so will procure them when m in the mood... till then will be harrassing u guys with my questions...:razz:
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Thx man... if u could show me some place where i can find a comparision between these 2 drives will luv that.... i tried but i couldnt get anything.... my budget is 5-6Ks nothing more i know WD black r awesome but i think they cost 4Ks each.... :sad:

@thunder.02dragon what do u think which drives will be better in RAID 0 config..... pls enlighten me man.... :?

32MB cache drives gives better performance in write test though by a small margin as compared with 16MB but the price you are going to pay for the increased cache size is not too much. So there is not any point to go for low cache sized models.

Seagate has no 500GB 32MB cache drives in 7200.12 series. Only 1TB discs has 32MB cache. So at the end of the you has two choices :p
1. 2x Seagate 1TB 32MB cache 7200.12 series drives for Raid 0 ( Rs. 8K total )
2. 2X WD Blue 500GB 32MB cache drives in Raid 0 ( Rs. 5.4K )

BTW, 2x WD Black 1TB will cost around Rs. 13K :p

[nads]

guys got a gud deal m getting WD 500GB @32MB Cache for 2500/- each.... for 50 bucks less i was getting seagate 7200.12 500Gb@16MB Cache..... so decided to go with WD... will let u know how the performance is once i RAID it n load win7 Ultimate on it......will be using my old seagate 7200.9 250GB 4MB Cache as an external drive ordered a TAG casing@600/- will get it by today evening n will keep u guys updated..... anywayz i wish to thank everyone who have help me in making this decision..... thx to all.....CIAO

[punkkummander]

could you guys please gimme names of shops in bangalore that quote th lowest prices for pc hardware

[Krow]

^Ankit Infotech and Golcha IT

[desiibond]

^^their quotes are not the lowest but are one of the most reliable dealers in SP Road :)

[punkkummander]

generally are prices in bang cheaper than chennai? cuz i mite be visiting bang and if cheaper i mite pick up some stuff

[Krow]

I've heard that the Altec Lansing MX5021 used to be very cheap in Chennai compared to the rest of the nation. But overall I think Bangalore may be cheaper.

[punkkummander]

oh k k. thanks mr. Kow

[tkin]

I would also recommend seagate anyday over WD ( HDds are something of personal choice too ) :p

I know if a HDD just carshed on someone the impression would be very bad as you can loose a lot of critical data ( my 80GB seagate Hdd once craches ).

BTW, the prob with 7200.11 were fixed with new firmwire update ( as upgraded mine I know that ) and the 7200.12 series drives are known to be that firmwire bug free :p
My 7200.11 got fixed too, no crash after update, 4500hrs passed after that.

[Krow]

oh k k. thanks mr. Kow
I think that typo was deliberate :lol:

[punkkummander]

oh phuck! sorry. that was totally *kough* unintentional

[tkin]

I think that typo was deliberate :lol:
LOL, you should change the avatar, theres some nice kow **cough** pictures in the web.

[topgear]

guys got a gud deal m getting WD 500GB @32MB Cache for 2500/- each.... for 50 bucks less i was getting seagate 7200.12 500Gb@16MB Cache..... so decided to go with WD... will let u know how the performance is once i RAID it n load win7 Ultimate on it......will be using my old seagate 7200.9 250GB 4MB Cache as an external drive ordered a TAG casing@600/- will get it by today evening n will keep u guys updated..... anywayz i wish to thank everyone who have help me in making this decision..... thx to all.....CIAO

Great deal :p Keep us updated.

My 7200.11 got fixed too, no crash after update, 4500hrs passed after that.

Glad to know that :p

[nads]

hiii guys
what should i say..... got the drives but i should be happy or sad i dunno.... i wasnt home when the delivery fellow came to give the drives at my place so my lil bro collected it n opened the plastic in which the HDD comes... i come home n find that i have received HD Green HDD with 32MB Cache :-x:-x:-x

i cant return it since the plastic bags r torn.... WD Blue r not available in the market at this time only green n blacks... anyways damage was already done n i went ahead n setup my RAID 0 config which went pretty smooth installed win7 ultimate n all my relevant stuff..... n ran HDD Tune http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/987/hddtunebenchmarkpic.jpg now u guys tell me how r the transfer rates i even downloaded the passmark performance software n i have got a disk mark of 1206 http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3931/passmarkscore.jpg i have got WD 500GB Model nos WD5000AADS couldnt find any reviews on the net.... but i dont seee much of a performance boost when win7 is booting it boots as fast as my optimized win xp.... m i missing somthing here or this is normal......

Write speeds have increases compared to my old HDD seagate 9200.9 series 250GB n reading is also quick..... but not as quick as i had expected to be honest.....will be loading games n then i will see the real world performance of these HDD..... if u guys need any other info let me know will be glad to help....


NB:- check this link also http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_lookup.php?cpu=WDC+WD5000AADS

note that the seagate ST3500418AS is the same drive which i was planning 500GB@16MB cache n its nos one...... y didnt i come across this before :-x:-x.... u can see the score for a single WD5000AADS which i m having n it lags a cool 236 points behind :-x:-x:-x:-x:-x:-x...... but in RAID0 i m getting score of 1206 which is a little more than 2 WD5000AADS combine will the same be true with the seagates????? or m i just trying to find more value from my blunder :?

[desiibond]

@nads, average transfer rate of 130+MBps is pretty good and really fast.

if possible, I will try to run the same tests on my home PC today and let you know.

[nads]

thx desibond ur results will really help to find out how other drives r performing..... by the way i researched some more on the net n hav come to know that the WD Blue 500GB with 16MB Cache model number is WD5000AAKS n Green drive model number is WD5000AADS found out according to passmark ratings that WD blue is slower than WD green a bit not much.... but the seagate ST3500418TS has such a huge advantage any idea y?????? at the same price range.....


look 2 positions below to see WD5000AAKS
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_lookup.php?cpu=WDC+WD5000AADS



Guys check out this link http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1284410&page=16

i think i should be happy with my RAID0 perfomance of WD green drives:-o:-o:-o:-o

[desiibond]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8177/hdtunebenchmarkst325031.png (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/hdtunebenchmarkst325031.png/)

[topgear]

Canon Lide 100 Sacnner @ Rs. 2850
BenQ G610HDA LCD Moinitor @ Rs. 4400

[cooldudegandhi]

hi everyone
i'm kinda new here
and i hope i'm posting at the right place
i've been readin your posts and wow they're useful!!!!
i need some help in putting up a new pc
my budget is around 25000
i've decided that the casing is to be cooler master's haf 922
after that i m left with 25000 - that is for the cpu and mouse n keyboard only excluding the cabinet
i dont need a monitor
for the mobo i'm thinkin bout -
MSI 790GX-G65 - AMD® 790GX/SB750 - Rs 7250/-
Asus M4A78TD-V-EVO - AMD 785G/SB710 - Rs 7100/-
i got these from this forum itself
and amd quad core - please suggest some
1 tb hdd
2 to 3 gb ddr3 ram should suffice
and i need a good graphics card
and i guess thats all
thanks for your help in advance!
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[Krow]

i've decided that the casing is to be cooler master's haf 922

Its a dust magnet. Sure you live in a dust free environment? Instead look for CM-690 which is cheaper or look for CM Storm Scout
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122108
Comes for under 7k.

for the mobo i'm thinkin bout -
MSI 790GX-G65 - AMD® 790GX/SB750 - Rs 7250/-
Asus M4A78TD-V-EVO - AMD 785G/SB710 - Rs 7100/-

The MSI board is much better unless you looking at onboard Graphics. Make sure it supports RAM above 1333MHz though. If you are not an overclocker, then have a look at Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H @ 5.5k.

and amd quad core - please suggest some
1 tb hdd
2 to 3 gb ddr3 ram should suffice
Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k
Kingston 2x2GB DDR3 @ 5k
Seagate 7200.12 1TB @ 4k, same as WD Green (power saver HDD)
I am not very good at wireless keyboard and mice.

[Revolution]

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/HolyRipper/HDD250.jpg

[cooldudegandhi]

hi krow
thnx a ton for the help


cabinet - haf 922 - 7.5k
mobo - MSI 790GX-G65 - AMD® 790GX/SB750 - Rs 7250/-
proccy - Athlon II X4 620 - 5.5k
ram - Kingston 2x2GB DDR3 - 5k
hdd - Seagate 7200.12 1TB - 4k
gpu - 8k
mouse n keyboard - wireless - 2k
dvd writer - 1.5k
power supply - cheap one - 2k
extras - 2k

cost - 44750
budget - 35000
result - way over budget

well the new cpu needs to wait a while i guess

[desiibond]

hmm. power supply - cheap one -2k. and that too when you plan a mid range GPU?

my suggestion would be to get atleast Corsair VX450W or Gigabyte Superb 460W

you can buy the entire rig except the GPU for now as the 790FX should be okay to play games at low to medium settings (depending on resolution). Once AMD or nvidia releases sub 8k dx11 card, you can grab that.

[cooldudegandhi]

desiibond
well isnt a 450W power supply always 450W??
and i run my oc'd asus en8600gt widout probs on a cheap power supply
and i m way out of my budget
i really need to cut somewhere
and by 790fx - are u talkin bout the mobo??
if so will be able to handle high resolutions - at least 1440*900 and maybe 1920*1080
but anyways i need to buy a gpu with the cpu or i never get it
i think i might just buy a 1.5k cabinet due to the budget
and wat bout ati 5770 cards??
are they available yet?

[Krow]

^For cabinet, get CM 690 @ 5k. or CM 590 (dunno price). If you wanna save further, then CM Elite 334/335 @ 2.1k.

No a 450W cheapo PSU is way different from a 450W from Corsair. Its about efficiency and quality of power provided to your rig. A crap power supply may just end up burning your rig. Its just luck that your OCed 8600GT runs well on the cheapo PSU. Better cut down on processor and GPU than PSU.

790FX is chipset on the mobo.

[desiibond]

desiibond
well isnt a 450W power supply always 450W??
and i run my oc'd asus en8600gt widout probs on a cheap power supply
and i m way out of my budget
i really need to cut somewhere
and by 790fx - are u talkin bout the mobo??
if so will be able to handle high resolutions - at least 1440*900 and maybe 1920*1080
but anyways i need to buy a gpu with the cpu or i never get it
i think i might just buy a 1.5k cabinet due to the budget
and wat bout ati 5770 cards??
are they available yet?

chsap power supplies will be able to handle low end gpus that take power from pcie slot. once u move to gpu that takes power using a 6pin or bigger power connector, a good psu is necessary.
a cheap psu can never reach it's rated max output. if u are thinking of hd5770 or higher you better get gigabyte superb 460w atleast.

also psu like corsair vx450w take around 520w to give stable output of 450w but cheap ones tke more powef and still wont reach the max output.

in the end you end up paying more electricity bills evefy month negating the savings u did by getting cheap ones.