Latest Hardware Prices & Quotes..!!

[topgear]

512 MB should cost you 1-1.1K & 1 GB Rs. 1.7K

[Xccentricity]

Whats the current price of Intel Core i7 920 and any x58 chipset board and 2GB stick of DDR3 RAM@1600MHz?

[surinder]

i7 920 @14.5K
MSI X58 Pro @11.4K
Corsair TW3X4G-1600C9DHX 2GB @3.7K

[vamsi_krishna]

Just want to know how much Kingstion 2GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM costs

[desiibond]

1150 or 1200

[vamsi_krishna]

thanks, babai

[AVSEQ]

Does anyone know if GTX 280 or GTX 285 cards are available in kolkata? If so, where?

[topgear]

^^ Try this :
http://www.exoduspc.in/

[dissel]

Is there any chance to get 667Mhz DDR2 Ram ? If yes what will be the asking price ?

[topgear]

Though it's hard to find but you can get those :

A 1GB module should cost you Rs.750 ( Transcend/Kingston )

[sjoardar]

Does anyone know if GTX 280 or GTX 285 cards are available in kolkata? If so, where?
See Randhir at Vedant Computer Sales (at the crossing of Chandni Chowk and GC Ave). He just got me one Zotac GeForce GTX285 (1GB) for Rs. 24,500 (+4% VAT).

[maverick786us]

How much will HD4890 Cost in Nehru Place? If its around 10K then I will purchase one. Can some recommend me a good and reliable shop in Nehru Place for that??

SCREW UP!!!! Computer Empire. They cheated me twice last year

[desiibond]

should be around 13k-14k.

[asigh]

How much will HD4890 Cost in Nehru Place? If its around 10K then I will purchase one. Can some recommend me a good and reliable shop in Nehru Place for that??

SCREW UP!!!! Computer Empire. They cheated me twice last year

SMC was selling the MSI ones for 16.5K.

SMC is a good shop, but his rates are +(RS500-RS700) of usual onlines prices. Lynx has it for around ~Rs 13325 now..! (Sapphire) @ 850Mhz/975Mhz. (CORE/MEM)

Lynx also has PLUS editions they sent my second one as the PLUS edition which is @ 900Mhz/1000Mhz..!

Make sure you take a bill..at times, at Nehru place they try to get away to not give a retail invoice..!

[dissel]

D-Link DIR-655 Wireless N Gigabit Router Price Quote at 18/07/2009 in Kolkata (Eastern Logica) @ 8600+tax.

Dell S2409W 24" Monitor Price Quoted on the above day Kolkata (Velosity) @18000+tax

[debsuvra]

I have the following build in my mind, anyone please quote the Kolkata price (especially from Vedant, I heard they have the best deals there) for them,


Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Motherboard: MSI P43NEO-F
RAM: Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB Kit
HDD: Seagate 500GB SATA 3.5"
PSU/SMPS: GlacialPower GP-AL650AA
Cabinet: Coolermaster Elite-330 with Transparent Side
Graphics Card: Ati HD4850 / Ati HD4770 and nVidia GTS250

[topgear]

e8400 - 8.5K
MSI P43F Neo 5.5K
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB Kit 3-3.5K
Seagate 500GB SATA 3.5" 2.8-3.2K
GlacialPower GP-AL650AA ( I Don't think it's available )
Try Corsair Vx450W Rs. 4-4.4K
CM Elite 330 Rs. 2-2.5K
PowerColor ATI HD4850 512MB Rs. 6.5-7K or Palit GTS 250 Rs. 7-7.3K

BTW, Do not double post same thing on different threads :p

[j1n M@tt]

GP-AL650AA is far better and vfm than VX450, it's available for around 4.4k-4.7k. It's in lynx-india.com for online purchase

[ark_21]

Hi all,
I am planning to buy the TV tunner for 22" LCD monitor.
Can someone say what r the options available @ starting price range with good resolutions(pl tell the price for extrnal and internal card -- both)..

[desiibond]

for a FullHD 22" display?

[desiibond]

if yes, you need atleast
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1250.html
or
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1600.html

[ark_21]

for a FullHD 22" display?

No. Its for Non-HD LCD (Viewsonic VA 2226). I thnik the resulution is 1680x1050.

[topgear]

if yes, you need atleast
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1250.html
or
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1600.html

Are hauppauge products officially available in here ?

[desiibond]

yes and Pinnacle PCTV series is now owned by Happuage.

[ark_21]

Hi all,
I am planning to buy the TV tunner for 22" LCD monitor(Viewsonic VA 2226 : resulution 1680x1050).
Can someone say what r the options available @ starting price range with good resolutions(pl tell the price for extrnal and internal card -- both)..

[mumblehere]

Whether to go for Samsung:
2233sw
2233sw PLUS (with 50k CR, off timer, color effect)
P2250 Lavender series. (crystal design, with 50k CR, 2 ms RT, off timer)

Was on the verge of buying 2233sw, but the other 2 came by chance.

Approx 2k increase in price for latter two? Is it worth for? Whether to stick to the first one?

[[
not interested in off timer nor crystal design!
is there much damage between 15k and 50k DCR & between 2 and 5 msec RT?
any use with color effect?
]]

(not able to start a new thread, it says no privilege or sumthin :-o)

[desiibond]

P2250 Lavender if it doesn't have any issues that T220 had. 2ms and gorgeous design definitely worth 2k extra bucks

[vikrant.forums]

need the price of the following in mumbai:

* heatsink for AMD 939 (originam amd/fake)
* 120mm coolermaster blue led fan
* 120mm fan filters
* SATA to IDE convertor
* good brand thermal paste (lowest cost) arctic silver perhaps

[mumblehere]

P2250 Lavender if it doesn't have any issues that T220 had. 2ms and gorgeous design definitely worth 2k extra bucks

wait for user reviews of P2250 or go for 2233

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

[topgear]

yes and Pinnacle PCTV series is now owned by Happuage.

That's great ! Thanks for informing :p

[topgear]

need the price of the following in mumbai:

* heatsink for AMD 939 (originam amd/fake)
* 120mm coolermaster blue led fan
* 120mm fan filters
* SATA to IDE convertor
* good brand thermal paste (lowest cost) arctic silver perhaps

They cost form Rs. 1500-2500. Look for brands like CoolerMaster, Thermalrighjt, Arctic or OCZ.

120mm sCM led fan should cost you Rs. 500

120mm fan filter should cost you Rs. 25-50 ( very hard to find )

Sata to IDE converter should cost you Rs. 300.

Arctic silver Mx should be Rs. 350. But I had used CM nano fusion which is available @ Rs. 250-350. I can bet on that :p

[debsuvra]

The current price of Dell S2209W, anyone?

[desiibond]

9.2k

[Rockstar09]

Hi, every1 i hav a 2Gb DDR2 667Mhz Ram(Transcend) i wanted to upgrade it to 4Gb.
Can i use a 2Gb DDR2 800Mhz ram with the prev one?

I hav a intel DG33 mobo

[Rockstar09]

I wanted 2 kno which is the best intel IGP mobo under the price of 7k?

[Absolute0]

hi all,
can anyone please tell me the price of intel c2d e8500 and intel c2d e8400.

thinking of upgrading my pc. need the info to decide?

thanx in advance.

[damngoodman999]

hi all,
can anyone please tell me the price of intel c2d e8500 and intel c2d e8400.

thinking of upgrading my pc. need the info to decide?

thanx in advance.

E8400 - 7900/-

E8500 - 9200/-

Y going for that ?? there are many AMD processors are much powerful now

[topgear]

@ Rockstar09 - you can buy a 800Mhz module to pair up with your existing 667Mhz module. Just make sure it's the same brand & the has same latency @ 667Mhz speed.

But I would recommend you to get a another 667 Mhz module of same brand as your
existing 667Mhz module so that there should be any compatibility issue.

Regarding mobo IGP you should get zotac 9300 ( it has nvidia 9300 gfx inbuilt ) @ Rs. 5.5-6K mobo for intel platform :p

[desiibond]

E8400 - 7900/-

E8500 - 9200/-

Y going for that ?? there are many AMD processors are much powerful now

True. And for the price of E8500, you can get a 780G based motherboard and Phenom II X2 processor.

[Absolute0]

E8400 - 7900/-

E8500 - 9200/-

Y going for that ?? there are many AMD processors are much powerful now

AMD's have been plagued with problems in the past.
that whole TLB issue.

and its going to be a once in 2 years investment , so cant mess it up.

are phenom2 problem free...

also,
i will be obliged if u can suggest me what components to pick with respective prices.

1. processor
2. mobo
3. psu

will be purchasing a gfx card next month.

both intel and amd solutions will do.

[desiibond]

@Absolute0,

remember Intel PIII issues and Intel recalled thousands of processors?
remember Intel PIV overheating issues?

The only bad product in AMD was Phenom 9xxx series and that too only the first batch which was fixed later.

Phenom II X4 is slowly moving towards core i7 and it offers terrific VFM.

I have been AMD user for more than 6 years and am proud to be one. (and my first procesor was Intel PIII)

here is an example:

1) Intel E8400 (8.5k) + gigabyte/asus P45 based motherboard (5.5k) + 4gig ram (2.5k) + Palit 9500GT (3.5k) amounts to 20k

2) AMD Phenom II X2 550 (5.5k) + Gigabyte/ASUS 780G board (4.3k) + 4gig ram (2.5k) + PowerColor HD4870 512MB GDDR5 card (9.5k) amounts to 21k.

Your choice which way you want to go.

[Absolute0]

@Absolute0,

remember Intel PIII issues and Intel recalled thousands of processors?
remember Intel PIV overheating issues?

The only bad product in AMD was Phenom 9xxx series and that too only the first batch which was fixed later.

Phenom II X4 is slowly moving towards core i7 and it offers terrific VFM.

I have been AMD user for more than 6 years and am proud to be one. (and my first procesor was Intel PIII)

here is an example:

1) Intel E8400 (8.5k) + gigabyte/asus P45 based motherboard (5.5k) + 4gig ram (2.5k) + Palit 9500GT (3.5k) amounts to 20k

2) AMD Phenom II X2 550 (5.5k) + Gigabyte/ASUS 780G board (4.3k) + 4gig ram (2.5k) + PowerColor HD4870 512MB GDDR5 card (9.5k) amounts to 21k.

Your choice which way you want to go.

how different will the performance of amd and intel setups will be when it comes to gaming. wont be needing max setting in the games, but at medium setting in the games like gta4 , fear etc.

[desiibond]

That intel config won't be able to touch the AMD config in gaming. any game any setting.

[Absolute0]

That intel config won't be able to touch the AMD config in gaming. any game any setting.

think i'll be joining the amd club:razz:

[desiibond]

AMD Phenom II X2 550: 5.5k
Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H : 4.3k
Corsair XMS2 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz : 1.5k each stick
or
transcend 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz: 1.2k each stick
Palit Radeon HD4870: 10.5k
or
PowerColor Radeon HD4870: 9.5k
or
Palit GTS250 512MB: 7k

[Absolute0]

thank u everybody for helping me in making this decision.

just 1 last query,
within 3k which smps/psu would be suitable for the amd config.

thanks again.

[desiibond]

depends on which graphics card you pick.

also, if possible wait for 785G chipset based motherboards (about a week or two)

[Absolute0]

depends on which graphics card you pick.

also, if possible wait for 785G chipset based motherboards (about a week or two)

think i will be going with "PowerColor Radeon HD4870".
also what will be the price of 785G based mobo.

so which psu/smps should i go with?

[desiibond]

price should be at the same level that 780G is right now and it takes ddr3 ram and comes with am3 socket which will be easier for you to upgrade later

[Absolute0]

price should be at the same level that 780G is right now and it takes ddr3 ram and comes with am3 socket which will be easier for you to upgrade later

then i think i'll wait for the new chipset.:razz:

what about the psu/smps?

thanks for clearing things.

[desiibond]

Corsair VX450: 3.8k-4.2k
GlacialTech 650AA: 4.5k

these go well with HD4870.

[desiibond]

Corsair VX450: 3.8k-4.2k
GlacialTech 650AA: 4.5k

these go well with HD4870.

if you are Overclocking lover, this is the GPU to go for :)

http://lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=5837

[Absolute0]

Corsair VX450: 3.8k-4.2k
GlacialTech 650AA: 4.5k

these go well with HD4870.

if you are Overclocking lover, this is the GPU to go for :)

http://lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=5837

thanx man,
been a great help.

[Absolute0]

hi all,
can anybody suggest a good computer h/w store in pune, where i can get a good deal for amd phenom2 X2 550 black edition processor.

i checked in DCC, they quoted the price at 5.9k... which is above street price.

[desiibond]

btw, when you pick cabinet, make sure the GPU can fit easily in the cabinet and also you need two PCI-E power cables for Palit GTX260 sonic edition (molex to pcie power converter is very easy to find and you might get one such conveter in the GPU package)

[desiibond]

if you are in Pune, why not try online purchase from theitwares.com?

[Absolute0]

if you are in Pune, why not try online purchase from theitwares.com?

will it be reliable?
never purchased anything this costly online:-?

[damngoodman999]

will it be reliable?
never purchased anything this costly online:-?

I am late !!

Desi suggested u a good config

if u r going for powercolor 4870 , u can go for PALIT gTX 260 sonic its almost equals to HD 4890 with its OCed version

Try to get 790GX motherboard so u can unlock from 2 cores to 4 cores !!

still its possible for Phenom 2 550 - phenom 2 720 its not

Whats ur budget for processor + mobo + GPU

[Absolute0]

I am late !!

Desi suggested u a good config

if u r going for powercolor 4870 , u can go for PALIT gTX 260 sonic its almost equals to HD 4890 with its OCed version

Try to get 790GX motherboard so u can unlock from 2 cores to 4 cores !!

still its possible for Phenom 2 550 - phenom 2 720 its not

Whats ur budget for processor + mobo + GPU

its about 14k for processor+mobo

for graphics card i can shell out 7-8k but that will be done next month.

[desiibond]

Phenom II X2 550 + 780G should cost around 10k. (do you have DDR2 ram already?). add the remaining 2.5k to 8k budget of GPU and get GTX260 :) and put remaining 1.5k into PSU budget.

[damngoodman999]

its about 14k for processor+mobo

for graphics card i can shell out 7-8k but that will be done next month.


So ,

My choice would be Phenom 2 550

i m not sure about the mobo but my pick would be 790GX chipset board ask desibond for mobo details

[Absolute0]

Phenom II X2 550 + 780G should cost around 10k. (do you have DDR2 ram already?). add the remaining 2.5k to 8k budget of GPU and get GTX260 :) and put remaining 1.5k into PSU budget.

will a 500w psu be sufficient for this setup?

also will 780g prove to be a bottleneck for the processor?

[damngoodman999]

will a 500w psu be sufficient for this setup?

also will 780g prove to be a bottleneck for the processor?


No as for unlocking cores i just said 790GX , u can go with 780G chipset not problem , then spend money on GPU if u r gaming freak !!

[Absolute0]

No as for unlocking cores i just said 790GX , u can go with 780G chipset not problem , then spend money on GPU if u r gaming freak !!

suggest a powersupply within 4-4.5k which will be suitable.
any idea bout 790gx mobo pricing?

[desiibond]

within 4.5k, GlacialPower 650AA is good one and also Corsair VX450W.

790FX:

Gigabyte: starts at 8k
ASUS: starts at 9k
Jetway: HA-07 Hummer: 6k
Biostart: 4.5k-5k (not recommended for overclocking)

[rohit2hell]

hi guys...
which one is better for my AMD phenom II 955 BE
Asus M4A78T-E or MSI 790Gx-G65 ???
iam going to use DDR3 Ram
and a Ati HD 4870(512 mb DDR5)

help me frndsz

[mumblehere]

Need 15, 16, or 17" LCD monitor, kerala sellers only.

Need a perfectly working 15, 16, or 17" LCD monitor at the earliest.

Please quote brand, model number with expected price.

Sellers only from Kerala please.

(not able to create a new thread)

[topgear]

hi guys...
which one is better for my AMD phenom II 955 BE
Asus M4A78T-E or MSI 790Gx-G65 ???
iam going to use DDR3 Ram
and a Ati HD 4870(512 mb DDR5)

help me frndsz

Get the MSI 790Gx-G65 & if possible buy GTX 260 ( add to it better driver support from nvidia ) instead of HD4870 as it has more ram & performs better than 4870.

[desiibond]

^^and also is quieter and cooler than HD4870, especially Palit Sonic edition that is factory overclocked.

[topgear]

^^ Yup & Palit GTX 260 sonic ( with HDMI ) comes with Terminator Salvation Game for free & it has 894MB of ram & the price is only around 11K :p

[NIGHTMARE]

wat is price of Q8200 and which mob is come under Rs4000

[topgear]

Q8200 is between Rs. 8.2-8.8K.

You can get intel Intel DG41TY if you don't want to OC. It's Rs. 3.8K

Gigabyte & Asus - have some cheap g31 based mobos which should not cost you ore than Rs. 2.5K

[tkin]

^^ Yup & Palit GTX 260 sonic ( with HDMI ) comes with Terminator Salvation Game for free & it has 894MB of ram & the price is only around 11K :p
Card is good, but game sucks, i will be happy if they give a blank disc with it instead.

[desiibond]

Any idea how much a 16Gb SDHC card costs?

[hellknight]

@everyone.. Jetway Ha07 Ultra or Hummer is the best under 7k motherboard out there..

[desiibond]

isn't it around 5.5k now?

[Arnab boss]

Hi guys.., I want an update in the following prices in kolkata...'

Amd phenom 2 940 black edi
Gigabyte ga ma790gp - ud4h mobo
Samsung 2233 sv lcd moniter..
Cm 690.. Side transparent case.
Corsair 2 gb 800mhz rams
1 t.b hdd western digital cavair black.
Xfx hd 4770 gpu or gtx 260.. I will xfire it later so how's hd 4770 in performance and price...'

And @ last how much watts of psu I need to run this config with 6 fans and a ccl tube...?
will Corsair tx 750 will do or a 650 is enough...'

Guys I will get these in this week so quick with ur suggestions and is this config is alright 4 mid end gaming...'
every suggestions r welcome...'

[damngoodman999]

Hi guys.., I want an update in the following prices in kolkata...'

Amd phenom 2 940 black edi
Gigabyte ga ma790gp - ud4h mobo
Samsung 2233 sv lcd moniter..
Cm 690.. Side transparent case.
Corsair 2 gb 800mhz rams
1 t.b hdd western digital cavair black.
Xfx hd 4770 gpu or gtx 260.. I will xfire it later so how's hd 4770 in performance and price...'

And @ last how much watts of psu I need to run this config with 6 fans and a ccl tube...?
will Corsair tx 750 will do or a 650 is enough...'

Guys I will get these in this week so quick with ur suggestions and is this config is alright 4 mid end gaming...'
every suggestions r welcome...'

Going for crossfire of HD4770 now is truly not good ! all the specs are good same as mine get HD4890 for that cost of 2 X HD4770

Later u can crossfire the HD4890 if u need ! TX650 is more than enough it can handle 2 X HD4890

[Arnab boss]

^^ thanks dude I was thinking the same but r u sure that tx 650 will do with 6 fans and a ccl tube with 1.5 t.b hdd and the mobo + cpu with 2 opt drives..'

Secondly how much is the price diff btwn 650 and 750...'

[topgear]

^^ thanks dude I was thinking the same but r u sure that tx 650 will do with 6 fans and a ccl tube with 1.5 t.b hdd and the mobo + cpu with 2 opt drives..'

Secondly how much is the price diff btwn 650 and 750...'

2x HD4890 = 250W ( If you go for x-fire in future )
940 B.E. = 125W
MB = 50W
Rams = 20W
HDD = 9W
2x Optical Drives = 12W
6 Fans = 6*6W = 36W
One Tube = 5W maybe

Total = 508 ( approx. )

TX650W can deliver 52A over +12V. That means = 624W. So it's just enough.

The price difference is around Rs. 1.2K

TX750W has 140 mm fan unlike TX650W which has 120mm fan. So Tx7580W will keep your cabby even more cool :p

I think 2x HD4850 is best option if some one wants to go with x-fire. This two babies will cost only around 14K :p

[sunil1882]

Hi Friends,

Please help me getting prices for below components in Mumbai. Thanks.

CPU
Intel quad core q9550

Motherboard
ASUS P5Q-E

Graphic Card
MSI R4850 T2D512 (Radeon HD4850)

RAM
G skill 4gb pi 8500 (2gb * 2)

HDD
Western Digital Sata 2 500 GB (32 MB Buffer)

Case
NV CM 690 Nvidia Edition
Cooler Master 690

SMPS (minimum 650W)
Corsair VX650
PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 860W PSU
Antec NeoPower 650W PSU
Coolermaster Real Power M700 PSU
Corsair’s HX 620
Corsair’s TX 650
I have tagan 800

Cooler
Thermalright Ultra 120 true blk
Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler

Thermal Compounds
Arctic Silver 5 (3.5gms)

LCD
Samsung 2233SW

UPS
APC 650kva

Thanks is advance.

[kjd_1122]

Check out these 2 links
1) http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96218
2) www.theitwares.com

Intel quad core q9550 : 12.4K
ASUS P5Q-E : 10K
MSI R4850 T2D512 (Radeon HD4850) :
check out this link: http://forums.techarena.in/reviews/1134274.htm

G skill 4gb pi 8500 (2gb * 2) : around 4K
Western Digital Sata 2 500 GB (32 MB Buffer) : 2700 (It should be 16 MB buffer)
NV CM 690 Nvidia Edition : Dont know
CM 690 : 4.6K
Corsair TX650 : 6.8K
Thermalright Ultra 120 true blk : 3.5K
Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler : Dont know
Samsung 2233SW : 9.8K
APC 650kva : Dont know

[AVSEQ]

Any idea of a good motherboard for AMD Phenom II X4 920, with PCI-E x16 2.0 support? (from kolkata) Also what would be the price?

[desiibond]

mobos for that processor start at a price of 3.2k :)

what's your budget?

[AVSEQ]

Actually I was looking for a 790 FX chipset based one.... Budget say 10000.

[damngoodman999]

Actually I was looking for a 790 FX chipset based one.... Budget say 10000.


MSI-GD70 or ASUS M4A79-deluxe

[desiibond]

DDR2:

Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-UD4H: 8k-8.5k
Asus M4A78-E: 8.5k-9k
MSI K9A2 PLATINUM v2: 8.5k-9k

DDR3:

Gigabyte GA-790XT-UD4P: 10k
Asus M4A78T-E: 9.5k
MSI 790FX-GD70: 10.5k

All pricing taken from lynx-india.

[chesss]

Got seagate 7200.12 500gb for Rs.2675 in ahmedabad . Shop - aggarwal computers, near judges bunglow road.

[vikrant.forums]

i am looking for a 120mm case fan grill for my cm690 side panel ( the older one rusted) anyone know where i can find one? and how much it wuld cost me?

[geek_iit]

Hi

Based on the different discussions in this forum, I have decided on the following config for my new gaming PC. I dont need a monitor, UPS & mouse as I already have a 26" LCD TV (Samsung series 4), 500 VA APC UPS and Microsoft USB Mouse.

Please check the compatibility of different components and let me know if there are any opportunities to reduce the cost without compromising on the Gaming Quality.

My config:

Phenom X4 810 BE 2.6GHz 6MB AM3 7550
Biostar TA790GX+128M 5200
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800Mhz 2x2GB 3000
Western Digital SATA 2 500 GB 32 MB Buffer 2775
LG H55n DVDRW 900
Zebronics Bijli (w/o SMPS) 1500
Corsair VX 450 W 3950
Palit GTX260 Sonic SP216 10750
Microsoft/Logitech Gaming Keyboard (mouse not required) 1000

Total 36625

This PC will be connected to the LCD TV through a compatible HDMI cable. I hope there will not be any resolution issues. Max resolution supported by the TV is (to the best of my knowledge) 1366x768. Can the graphics card give me exactly this resolution on the monitor (during normal desktop activity)?

Can the GTX 260 be expanded in the future through X-Fire? Sorry if this question is stupid, coz I am really a n00b in these matters. Will my current MB support it?

I am also looking to install a separate cooling system sometime in the future. Does the Bijli cabinet and this MB support external cooling solutions?

[desiibond]

for AMD motherboards with ATI chipset, you can't use two nvidia cards in SLI mode. you need to get ATI cards and put them in Crossfire.

Resolution shouldn't be a problem here and if you wan't to have good rig, you better get a good LCD PC monitor.

Why don't you put another 2.5k and get Phenom II X4 940 BE? It's better than 810 and the CPU heatsink and cooler that comes with 940 is superb.

[geek_iit]

Is the current market price of Phenom II X4 940 BE 9k only? ITWares shows the price as 10.5 k! If its only 9k, I'm definitely going for it! :)

Also, my LCD TV is HD ready. Wont I get good graphics on it if I use it as a monitor? Currently I dont have budget for a monitor. :(

Which are the ATI cards and which are the Nvidia SLI cards (brand names)?

[desiibond]

sorry. post corrected. it's 1.5k for 920 and 2.5k for 940. if you are not into overclocking, 920BE too is a rocking processor.

GTX260 can easily run a FullHD display!!!

[geek_iit]

Just wanted to clarify something. You're advising me to go for a separate LCD monitor for my PC instead of using my HD TV. Why exactly is that? Is it because of the limited resolution range that it can support?

Thanks a lot buddy, for all your help! :)

And please let me know which are the ATi cards. There are too many brands (XFX, EVGA, Palit, Sapphire, etc.) and I am a bit confused! :(

[desiibond]

for ATI, I always prefer Sapphire, which is premier partner for ATI brand. :)

You can also check brands like MSI, XFX, Palit, PointOfView.

[geek_iit]

Thanks. Which card should I go for? Palit GTX 260 or Sapphire HD 4850? Which one do you recommend?
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Which SMPS do u recommend? Cooler Master Extreme Power Duo 600w or Corsair VX 450w?

[desiibond]

GTX260. No doubt about that. It totally rocks!!

and between Cooler Master Extreme Power Duo 600w or Corsair VX 450w, VX450W but if you are going for quad core, better get a 550W or higher PSU from Corsair or Tagan or GlacialTech (order from lynx-india).

[heman12]

Hey, guys to checkout latest prices of PC chekout this cool website,
www.theitwares.com

[desiibond]

^^haha. we have been referencing that website for years. anyways, thanks for the reference :)

[sree01]

I need price for the following motherboard
ASUS M2N-VM HDMI
ASUS M3N-HT Deluxe/Mempipe
ASUS M3A-H/HDMI
Also the graphics capabilities and the cheapest compatible processor for each motherboard

Thanks

[Absolute0]

Hi all,
are amd's 785 based chipsets available in india yet??

any info on pricing??

[desiibond]

^^not yet!!

[Absolute0]

which mobo will be better

Biostar TA790GX


or

Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H

[suchak]

Hi all,
are amd's 785 based chipsets available in india yet??

any info on pricing??

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO - Rs 6700/- at Delta Peripherals (http://deltapage.com/)

[desiibond]

@absolute0, I always preferred Gigabyte over Biostar. :)

[Absolute0]

@absolute0, I always preferred Gigabyte over Biostar. :)
but isn't biostar one a 790 based chipset with better graphics solution than gigabyte one which is 780 based??

[damngoodman999]

but isn't biostar one a 790 based chipset with better graphics solution than gigabyte one which is 780 based??


Check for board stability & good performance , Biostar is good but Gigabyte is best

[maldyzooks]

are the 785G chipset motherboards available in market yet?

[damngoodman999]

are the 785G chipset motherboards available in market yet?

End of Aug09 !!

[sree01]

Which is the cheapest avaliable ASUS motherboard which support DirectX 10?
What is the price of ASUS M3A78-T motherboard?


Thanks:-)

[topgear]

For which paltform - intel or AMD ?
For intel look for mobos based on G43, G41 or G45 chipset or nvidia 8200, 9300.
For AMD mobos that comes with 780G & nvidia 8200,8300 supports Dx10.

That may be Rs. 5-5.5K.

[vikrant.forums]

Hi,

I need the pricing for the following in mumbai, also which is the best one ?also are 4gb kits any better than buying 2x 2gb sticks separately?

g-skill:F2-6400CL5S-2GBPQ x2
ocz:OCZ2G8002G x2
corsair: Corsair VS4GBKIT800D2 4GB (2x 2GB Kit)


PS: I have a k9ngm2 mobo which runs memory on 1.8v hence i need to restrict myself to these options only.
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Hi,

I need the pricing for the following in mumbai, also which is the best one ?also are 4gb kits (2x2gb packs) any better than buying 2x 2gb sticks separately?

g-skill:F2-6400CL5S-2GBPQ x2
ocz:OCZ2G8002G x2
corsair: Corsair VS4GBKIT800D2 4GB (2x 2GB Kit)


PS: I have a k9ngm2 mobo which runs memory on 1.8v hence i need to restrict myself to these options only.

[Manickaraj]

Hi guys,
I recently bought a brand new XFX HD4870 1 GB DDR5 for Rs. 5000. :-P

I am about to buy the rest of the components to replace my old PC.

I need some suggestions on CPU, Mobo, PSU and HDD (640 or 750 GB).

I need an 19" LCD monitor with fast response time and wide viewing angle. I can shell out only 8.5k dor this. :-(:-(

I am thinking of getting one of these CPUs: E8400, E8500, E8600. Which one is the best bang for money.

For the mobo i ve a budget of 3.5k to 4.5k. :oops:

For the ram i am thinking of getting 2 X 2GB DDR2 (1066 MHz) Wat timings is the best.

Pls gimme the price and brands of each components to look out for.

Thanks.:-o:-o:-o

[desiibond]

for 9k you can get a 22" fullhd which does justice to HD4870

for processor, go for Intel E8200 or AMD Phenom II X4 920

for mobo

Intel : look for gigabyte P45 series mobos. starting at 5.5k rupees
AMD: look for gigabyte 780G series mobos. starting at 4.2k rupees

[arsenalfan001]

Hi guys,
I recently bought a brand new XFX HD4870 1 GB DDR5 for Rs. 5000. :-P





HD4870 1GB DDR5 for Rs. 5000:shock:? From where man? Tell me, I am also interested

[raj_v1982]

Hi guys,
I recently bought a brand new XFX HD4870 1 GB DDR5 for Rs. 5000. :-P



Brand new XFX HD4870 1 GB DDR5 for Rs. 5000 :shock:

I am placing a order of 1000 XFX HD4870 cards with U :D

[Manickaraj]

HD4870 1GB DDR5 for Rs. 5000:shock:? From where man? Tell me, I am also interested

Bought it in US last month.... Great offer actually...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Manickaraj]

for 9k you can get a 22" fullhd which does justice to HD4870

for processor, go for Intel E8200 or AMD Phenom II X4 920

for mobo

Intel : look for gigabyte P45 series mobos. starting at 5.5k rupees
AMD: look for gigabyte 780G series mobos. starting at 4.2k rupees

Thanks bond, desiibond:smile: Wat abt the PSU, RAM and HDD?

[desiibond]

PSU: Pick among Corsair and Tagan. Starts at 4k for a 450W PSU
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz should be good: 1.5k for 2Gb
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 or Western Digital green 500Gb : 2.7k

[mannrak2003]

Lightbulb Need to buy an MFD what do digit and digitians recommend?
Need to buy an MFD.budget under 6000.what's the minimum price for a laser MFD?
has Digit conducted any test drives of MFDs this year?If yes I would like to know their BEST BUY and BEST PERFORMANCE recommendations

[yshashikant]

hey friends,

i am interested in buying an Acer Aspire 5738G. Can anyone please tell me if i can trust on an Acer Laptop. I am asking this cause i have heard a lot of people telling me not to opt fo an Acer Laptop, but the configuration of this laptop is so good that i cant help it. And can anyone please tell me from where should i buy a lapop in Mumbai so that i would get it for the cheapest?

Thanks for helping me beforehand..
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hey friends,

i am interested in buying an Acer Aspire 5738G. Can anyone please tell me if i can trust on an Acer Laptop. I am asking this cause i have heard a lot of people telling me not to opt fo an Acer Laptop, but the configuration of this laptop is so good that i cant help it. And can anyone please tell me from where should i buy a lapop in Mumbai so that i would get it for the cheapest?

Thanks for helping me beforehand..:))

[Manickaraj]

PSU: Pick among Corsair and Tagan. Starts at 4k for a 450W PSU
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz should be good: 1.5k for 2Gb
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 or Western Digital green 500Gb : 2.7k

Thanks man.

[desiibond]

@yshashikant, Acer laptops have good VFM. While buying laptop, make sure you get it from a good dealer and also have the laptop serial number written on the bill. As I am from blr, I don't know any dealer addresses in Mumbai.

And yes, 5738 is a terrific model. Also, look at 5739, which has lot better build and a terrific keypad and costs only a bit more.

[tanvir_87]

hi all !
i want to purchase a new system my specs are :
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 3 Ghz
Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 7200
Gigabyte GA-EG43M-S2H Motherboard
G.Skill - F2 -6400CL5S -1GBNY Memory X 4
Samsung 933NW 19inch Wide Screen
MSI R4870-MD1G Graphic Card
Cooler Master 600-eXtreme Power
Coolermaster Gladiator 600 Cabinet
Sony DVD R/W
now i have chosen the motherboard randomly, so will anyone suggest if it is a correct choice and i have taken 4870 graphic card will 4850 suffice ?
do let me know if u have a better config ?
my budget is 40k.
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hi all !
i want to purchase a new system my specs are :
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 3 Ghz
Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 7200
Gigabyte GA-EG43M-S2H Motherboard
G.Skill - F2 -6400CL5S -1GBNY Memory X 4
Samsung 933NW 19inch Wide Screen
MSI R4870-MD1G Graphic Card
Cooler Master 600-eXtreme Power
Coolermaster Gladiator 600 Cabinet
Sony DVD R/W
now i have chosen the motherboard randomly, so will anyone suggest if it is a correct choice and i have taken 4870 graphic card will 4850 suffice ?
do let me know if u have a better config ?
my budget is 40k.

[Krow]

Modify :

Proc : C2D E8400 is good, not sure abt price. (IMO replace this with AMD Phenom II X2 550 @ 5.5k or Phenom II X2 545 @ 5k)
HDD : seagate 7200.12 1TB - 4.4k
Mobo : GA-EP45-DS3L or a Gigabyte UD series mobo. - 7k (For AMD I dunno which is the best mobo, but you may buy MSI 770-C35 @ 5k )
RAM: Buy 2GB sticks instead of 1GB - 4k
Monitor: AOC Fovi F22/Samsung 2233SW/BenQ E2200HD - 8.8k(BenQ)
PSU: At least Corsair VX 450, if not, get Antec EA 650 - 4/5k
GFX: 4870 512MB is good @ 9k
LG/Samsung DVD-RW - 1k

Total - Intel - ~48k/AMD - 42k (Subtract 2k if u buy 2x2GB RAM instead of 4x2GB)

Consult some others here too before finalising your rig! :)

[bippukt]

GFX: 4870 512MB is good @ 9k

I would go for an HD4870 1GB gfx card instead of the 512 MB. It will really help with a 22" monitor :)

[Krow]

I know. But the 4870 1GB is for 11k! That is not in budget. If The budget is expandable, then please have a look at Palit GTX260 896MB GDDR3 SONIC @ 10.6k. Don't buy any other GTX260, go for the Palit SONIC edition! Also, I strongly recommend that you buy an AMD processor, if u can afford, get the Phenom II X3 720 BE @ 7.5k. I can't really recommend a lesser priced mobo as I dunno about them,but someone else here should be able to.

[bippukt]

I know. But the 4870 1GB is for 11k! That is not in budget. If The budget is expandable, then please have a look at Palit GTX260 896MB GDDR3 SONIC @ 10.6k. Don't buy any other GTX260, go for the Palit SONIC edition! Also, I strongly recommend that you buy an AMD processor, if u can afford, get the Phenom II X3 720 BE @ 7.5k. I can't really recommend a lesser priced mobo as I dunno about them,but someone else here should be able to.

Sorry, I didn't look at it as closely as I should have. I would still recommen that he expand the budget by 2-3k and get what you suggest :)

[Krow]

I forgot abt the cabby! That should add arnd 4-5k to the overall budget.

@ tanvir_87 Okay, first let us know what you need the PC for. What are you going to be using it for? How much can you expand your budget by? All of us can help you better that way!

[tanvir_87]

hey !
sorry guys my net was down .....
anyways i basically need it for hardcore gaming as i won't be buying any gaming console and it will be a one time upgrade so i want it to be done in one shot
yeah given a choice i can upgrade my budget to 45k-48k at max
and guys i was even thinking do i need a 22'' monitor, won't a 17'' or 19'' do

[Krow]

Hardcore Gaming means 22" monitor. :)
Okay for Intel get Q8400 @ 8750
MSI P45 Neo3-FR V2 - 6825 or P45 NEO-F @5k

AMD : Phenom II X3 720BE @ 7.5k or Phenom II X2 545 @ 5k
MSI 770-C35 @ 5k
PSU - CM Real Power Pro 550W/Antc EA 650/Corsair VX550W @ 6k max
Monitor : 9k
GFX: 4870 1GB @ 9.9k (rates just crashed) or GTX 260 SONIC @ 10.6k
If out of budget then replace with 4870 512MB @ 8.8k

RAM - 2k
HDD - 4.4k
Cabby : 5k or u if cn settle for a mid tower cabby CM Elite 334 @ 2k
DVD-RW : 1k

[royunprofiled]

Hi guys . I have been completely out of touch with hardware since the days of Athlon 64 and MSI RS 480 . Right now , I am about to get into Indian Institute of Space Science and Technology , Trivandrum .
First of all , I decided on a laptop , Dell Inspirion 14 , but it came with a weak graphics card , ATI RADEON 4330 ,to be precise . Build quality was a problem as well .
Then I decided on Dell Studio 15 , which comes with Core 2 Duo T6500 , 3GB R.A.M. in dual channel mode and ATI RADEON 4570 . It would cost around 49,000 . But then , build quality was again a question .
Therefore , I have decide to go for a desktop . My budget is 35,000 at maximum . And that is for everything , including Uninterpretable Power Supply .
Because , eventually , I will have to go for a laptop , but then , maybe a netbook can do the job then .
What to you guys suggest ? Dual core or quad core ?
One point of interest might be that I want my System to be as light and compact as possible because I will carry it back home during breaks and also internships at I.S.R.O. centers . And the journey back home happens to be around 4 days by train .
Therefore , I am going in for a 17" inch monitor .
My primary requirements : Games , of course along with computer aided designing , some amount of data analysis and interpretation stuff and maybe simulation as well .
My second point of concern it should be stable enough to last four years .
And most important of all , should I get my system now or hold on for a while . December at maximum .
I would not mind getting an onboard graphics right now and upgrading later on .
But I do want a powerful processor and a stable configuration .
Thank you for reading till the end .

[Krow]

Then I decided on Dell Studio 15 , which comes with Core 2 Duo T6500 , 3GB R.A.M. in dual channel mode and ATI RADEON 4570 . It would cost around 49,000 . But then , build quality was again a question .

A very good choice IMO. Add to it the accidental damage protection warranty and get this one. Build quality is pretty good. What do you expect from a laptop that is non-toughbook edition. Unless you throw it around forcefully, it will last you. Plus the accidental damage warranty is a no questions asked replacement warranty AFAIK. If your screen cracks, they'll replace it too. They replace the part which is damaged only.

Therefore , I have decide to go for a desktop . My budget is 35,000 at maximum . And that is for everything , including Uninterpretable Power Supply . Because , eventually , I will have to go for a laptop , but then , maybe a netbook can do the job then . What to you guys suggest ? Dual core or quad core ?
One point of interest might be that I want my System to be as light and compact as possible because I will carry it back home during breaks and also internships at I.S.R.O. centers . And the journey back home happens to be around 4 days by train .
Therefore , I am going in for a 17" inch monitor .
Why not go for Lappy now? You can't realistically expect a non netbook system which you are going to lug around for 4days everytime you go home! Laptops were designed to be bought by traveling people like you!

My primary requirements : Games , of course along with computer aided designing , some amount of data analysis and interpretation stuff and maybe simulation as well . My second point of concern it should be stable enough to last four years. And most important of all , should I get my system now or hold on for a while . December at maximum. I would not mind getting an onboard graphics right now and upgrading later on . But I do want a powerful processor and a stable configuration .Thank you for reading till the end .

No system is going to last you for four years. It will be running fine but te software will be more demanding, so no point in expecting anything to be around for that long a time. The laptop should serve your purpose well.

[desiibond]

Hi guys . I have been completely out of touch with hardware since the days of Athlon 64 and MSI RS 480 . Right now , I am about to get into Indian Institute of Space Science and Technology , Trivandrum .
First of all , I decided on a laptop , Dell Inspirion 14 , but it came with a weak graphics card , ATI RADEON 4330 ,to be precise . Build quality was a problem as well .
Then I decided on Dell Studio 15 , which comes with Core 2 Duo T6500 , 3GB R.A.M. in dual channel mode and ATI RADEON 4570 . It would cost around 49,000 . But then , build quality was again a question .
Therefore , I have decide to go for a desktop . My budget is 35,000 at maximum . And that is for everything , including Uninterpretable Power Supply .
Because , eventually , I will have to go for a laptop , but then , maybe a netbook can do the job then .
What to you guys suggest ? Dual core or quad core ?
One point of interest might be that I want my System to be as light and compact as possible because I will carry it back home during breaks and also internships at I.S.R.O. centers . And the journey back home happens to be around 4 days by train .
Therefore , I am going in for a 17" inch monitor .
My primary requirements : Games , of course along with computer aided designing , some amount of data analysis and interpretation stuff and maybe simulation as well .
My second point of concern it should be stable enough to last four years .
And most important of all , should I get my system now or hold on for a while . December at maximum .
I would not mind getting an onboard graphics right now and upgrading later on .
But I do want a powerful processor and a stable configuration .
Thank you for reading till the end .

if you think that gaming is a priority for you and also need a good system for mobility, why not go for these:

1) Dell XPS or Dell Studio 15 laptop now.
2) Later get XBOX 360 which is available for some 13k (and also expecting a price drop soon) I think and get it modded.

Believe me, it's really hectic to move your rig everywhere you go. It's too much of a headache, given the weight and the number of components. And netbook totally sucks IMO. It's too tiny
3) a 20" display for 7k

[royunprofiled]

First Techalomaniac . Thank you for your suggestion . I will check out the warranty as soon as possible .
And I have some idea how impractical it is to carry a complete system but I would like to keep my options open .
And by stable , I meant an unproblematic hardware because currently , I am facing a lot of problem with my MSI RS480 Motherboard .
You do not always need to run the latest software to get your job done .
My reason for choosing a desktop is that I would be needing a strong processor for my sort of requirements. And cannot afford to upgrade my processor at a later stage . So , whatever I get myself now , it is going to stay with me right through my Bachelors of Technology .

Now desiibond . Thank you as well . Well, what I want you to know is gaming is not the first priority for me . I would have loved to get myself a XPS but I would rather get a quad core processor than dual graphics cards for my money right now . So that effectively rules out a XBOX as well .

Sorry for misleading you .

Okay , so I am going to cut out your job . All you guys need to do is tell me is processor with best price to performance ratio upto Rupees 6000 and upto Rupees 9000 . Plus or minus Rupees 500 . And the motherboard to go with them with at least one alternative in case of non availability . Both with and without onboard graphics .
A compact cabinet and a S.M.P.S.
And are there any expected price cuts this year worth delaying the purchase .
Hope I am not asking too much from you guys .

And I my putting up my query on another thread as well . Hope you guys do not mind .

[Krow]

AMD Phenom II X4 920 @ arnd 9k
If you want to OC then replace 920 with 940 and price is 9.7k
Gigabyte GA-MA-790GP-UD4H is the best mobo with excellent onboard GFX and great OC capability. I play Crysis at 800x600 @ low GFX setting with GREAT FPS and no lags whatsoever!
Compact cabinet and SMPS would be too much to ask of anyone unless you say that you want a decrease in performance. Go for a mid-tower case like the CM Elite 334 @ 2k
SMPS - CM Real Power Pro 550W/Corsair VX550W/Antec EA-650 @ 6k max

Core i5 is going to arrive for Intel, but i'm not sure when. Price for AMD may go down a bit as the Phenom II X4 965 will come soon.
You can get a GFX card later with this mobo. IMO go for Corsair 650TX @ 6.8k at least. will gv you more headroom for better GPU later.

I still recommend you go for a laptop as lugging a desktop around is not really a very wise thing to do.

[desiibond]

^^that's spot on. go for that config.

Also, if you are going to use applications that are going to make full use of 4 cores like AV encoding, go for Q9550 for 11k for Intel. but you may not be able to get full rig inside 35k.

[Krow]

^^that's spot on. go for that config.

Also, if you are going to use applications that are going to make full use of 4 cores like AV encoding, go for Q9550 for 11k for Intel. but you may not be able to get full rig inside 35k.

Agreed totally as with Intel one must buy a dedicated GFX card too!

[tejasd2005]

hey guyz request a quote for
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz

preferably in pune......but still any estimates would be welcome.

[Soul-Stealer]

Guyz i need a config for a gaming CPU including a monitor rest all i have!

i need

Processor
motherboard
GFX
cabinet
Ram

thats all i dont need a HDD also !

so please if you can suggest me the above things and a Monitor
Budget is 30-35K

ty ~

[Krow]

AMD Phenom II X3 720 @ 7.3k OR AMD Phenom II X2 550 @ 5.5k
Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-UD4H @ 8k or Ga-MA78GM-US2H @ 4.5k
Sapphire HD4890 @ 12.5k
2x2GB Corsair XMS2 @ 3k
Corsair VX550W/CM Real Power Pro 550/Antec EA650 @ 6k max!
Any CM full tower cabby you like @ 5k!

[Soul-Stealer]

ty for the config dude :D but actually where can i get this parts for this prices? cuz at my CIty its fcking costly~ is online buying safe?!

[Krow]

Where do you stay? {city, state}
Buy from lynx if you are in north India. Itwares if you are in south. Else try techenclave.

Online buying is pretty safe as long as you are careful and buy from trusted vendors.

Try

www.lynx-india.com
www.itwares.com
www.techenclave.com/dealers-paradise

[royunprofiled]

Thanks guys . Though Phenom II X3 720 sounds tempting as well . Thanks a lot anyway .

[Soul-Stealer]

thnx dude i have decided on a config ^_^ well this is it~

processor - AMD Phenom II 720 X3 BE
mobo - Asus AMD785G M4A785TD-V Evo
Ram - 2x2gb crosair
Antec EA650
Graphic - Sapphire HD4890
and a Cabinet which can be kept for later money :P

thnx guyz you been a great help ^_^

[tejasd2005]

Guyz someone price check fro
Phenom II X 3 2.6 GHz 710
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H

Thanks a lot!

[Krow]

Thanks guys . Though Phenom II X3 720 sounds tempting as well . Thanks a lot anyway .
Anytime man!


thnx dude i have decided on a config ^_^ well this is it~
processor - AMD Phenom II 720 X3 BE
mobo - Asus AMD785G M4A785TD-V Evo
Ram - 2x2gb crosair
Antec EA650
Graphic - Sapphire HD4890
and a Cabinet which can be kept for later money :P
thnx guyz you been a great help ^_^
Anytime man for you too! Great choice I must say!

Guyz someone price check fro
Phenom II X 3 2.6 GHz 710
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Thanks a lot!
785 prices I can't find. The chipset is relatively new and is only mentioned on one website, that too the asus variant without the price.

www.lynx-india.com
www.itwares.com
www.techenclave.com/dealers-paradise

Contact various people here to find the price. That would be your best bet. The AMD Phenom II X3 720BE is @ 7.3k. IMO that should make the 710 somewhere around 6.8k although I am ony speculating... :)

[Soul-Stealer]

^_^ hope i can ask some more help if needed thnx guyz :D specially Techalomaniac

[royunprofiled]

Okay guys , I am taking your advice and am most probably going for a laptop .
And I am specially tempted since Dell has introduced a Studio 14 model making it lighter though more costlier .
Okay , now here something strange .
:?::?::?::?:Dell offers its Inspirion 14 model with dual channel R.A.M. in 1x1G.B. + 1x2G.B.
Now guys , what I remember was dual channel memory required two identical chips at least in capacity if not in speed . What do you think is Dell trying to do ?
:?::?:And by any means , do you guys happen to know how much of a performance decrease is expected from ATI 4530 as compared to ATI 4570 or is it that numbers are only indicative and not a measure of performance as with Intel ? Because that is the only graphics card Dell offers with Studio 14 .
:?::?:One more , is Core 2 Duo a true 64 bit processor or one "can" run 64 bit instructions in a compatibility mode ? Because one drawback of 64 bit as compared to 32 bit is that in 64 bit , everything is double the size as compared to 32 bit and if that larger address range remain unutilised what it effectively does is reduce my memory to half the size of what it could have been in 32 bit , including the cache , and as a result performance takes a hit . So is it a better a better option to go for 32 bit Windows instead of 64 bit ?

[desiibond]

core2duo is x86-64 processor (like all the current PC processors). They are x86 processors (32-bit) with extended paths and registers to allow for 64-bit instructions.
In short, they are true 32-bit and true 64-bit processors.

Concentrate on Processor and GPU. Get the max power that you can get from these two as these are the two (and display) that you cannot change and for everything else, you have upgrade option.

what do you mean by everything is double the size? I would say, 64-bit paths are double in width which means that they allow more data to pass for processing when compared to 32-bit. This also means that instructions are executed faster and it results in data in RAM staying for lesser time, resulting in better RAM utilization.

It doesn't matter if you have 32-bit or 64-bit OS. Not many apps take advantage of 64- bit. And only minute apps are incompatible with 64-bit OS.

Also, max ram you can use in 32-bit OS is 3.5GHz (limitation with 32-bit arcihtecture) and so if you plan to use 4Gb RAM and if entire RAM is going to be utilized (which is unlikely), go for 64-bit.

[nads]

hiiii everyone this is a gr8 thread......i have decided to upgrade my comp..... now i need help from u guys my current system config is as follows.....

IntelC2D E4300 1.8GHz 800FSB
Intel DG965RY mobo
4GB 2X2 kingston 800Mhz
MSI 8600GT 512MB
250GB Seagate HDD
Zebronics powersupply 450W
Viewsonic 1903WM

Now i m satisfied with my system completeley, but i m a flight simulator freak n FSX runs pretty slow at default setting (though i have not migrated from FS9 completely) now i m on a budget n i m unsure what should i upgrade to get a performance boost. Should i go for a graphic card or CPU/MOBO upgarde my budget is 15000/- n i just wanna change these 2 things only. I have visited lot of forums n everybody has a different story to enhance FSx some say upping ur CPU speed will give u gud boost some say it the graphics power. So i dunno what to do n i need ur help to guide me in the right direction. I dont want to go for a major upgrade (the reason for 15000K) cause i am looking forward to change to Intel Core i platform in 1-1 1/2 yrs.....
i have no probs with AMD processors also sooo feel free but comparisions with AMD n Intel have shown intel r better than AMD but if u guys show me the light at the other end of the tunnel then i m all for it.......

N yeah i have zeroed in this config but m still skeptical pls let me know will this be ok or i need something more.....
intel E7500 2.93Ghz 1066FSB-------5975
Gigabyte G31 Motherboard---------2500
Palit GTS250---------7300
total-----15775/-
these r the rates i have got from lamington road so guys kindly guide me in the right direction.............. n yeah if anybody has a second hand E6700 i would be interested to buy if the price is right....... (then i wont have to change my MOBO since thats the highest processor it supports)


Thks in advanve guys this thread is awesome keep up the gud work!!!!!! :razz:

[desiibond]

^^ Instead, how about this??

AMD Athlon II X2 240: 3.5k
Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H: 4.2k
Palit GTX260 Sonic Edition with dual fan cooler (factory overclocked): 10.5k

it's about 2.5k-3k costlier but will offer lot more bang.
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oh, btw. Forgot to mention. you have to change your SMPS too. that zebronics won't be able to drive GTS250 or GTX260. you need better one and my suggestion would be Corsair VX450W or Glacialpower GP-AL650AA. Both are avilable for 4k-4.5k price. selling off your current procccy/mobo/gpu should get you enough funds for that.

[nads]

thx a lot for ur recomendation but i checked it out again the processor which u have mentioned is not as powerful as E7500........ n if i m not wrong the newer phenom X2 r much better than the athlon X2 i dont know if i m right (never used AMD except a turion X2 on my hp laptop)

I dont wanna spend that much dough on the MOBO i just want the mobo to have 45nm quad support n it should be overclock friendly n stable i dont need much features in the mobo cause i just use the USB n the LAN ports.... i would like to hear ur comments pls


n regarding with palit GTX260 OC i have agreed on that afetr ur suggestion......its a gud VFM card i just wanted to know is any type of different connector is required to power the card or the PCIe slot powers the card..........

regards

[desiibond]

I think both GTS250 and GTX260 need on six pin power connector.

Reason why I picked Athlon II is because the mobo that I added is Gigabyte ultra durable which means that it can provide stability in overclocking and also has better power management and also to put the total price lower.

As you can see here "http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aii_250/7.html", Athlon II X2 250 reaches Phenom II X2 550 and E8400 with a bit of overclocking and X2 240 is nothing but downclocked X2 250.

Only thing is that X2 240 is not a Black Edition and so you have to rely on HT and RAM overclocking, and for this purpose UltraDurable boards offer the needed stability.

If you can extend your budget, Ahtlon X2 250 (4.5k approx) or Phenom II X2 550 (5.5k approx) will be good addition as they overclock well on air and reaches 3.6-3.8GHz.

[nads]

thks desibond for ur suggestion but now i have a new probs (sorry) i could adjust my budget a bit so now should i go for the new phenom X2 550 or go for the athlonX2 240 which will be a VFM for me.........

huh how does a six pin connector look like sorry but i have never used a graphics card with an external connector all were powered by the PCIe slot so i want to know if my power suplly has it or no...... (is it the same one which acts as the power supply cable in the old ATA drives)

regards

[desiibond]

connectors:

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html

6-pin PCIe connector and molex-PCIe power converter:

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#pciexpress

If you can stretch a bit, you better go for Phenom II X2 550.

[nads]

thx desibond then i will go for the phenom x2 550 with the gigabyte motherboard....
n one more prob desibond inquired at lamington road n they say they dont have the PALIT 260 sonic edition they have galaxy 260+ (which is overclocked a bit more than pali n cost 400bucks more) n zotac 260......... which one do u suggest i should go with i have no experience with galaxy.... how is that brand is it gud never heard also of them.....

ur opinion is welcome

regards


NB does this mobo support nvidia cuda couldnt find any info on the gigabyte site

[desiibond]

nvidia cuda comes with the GPU and not with the mobo afaik.

afaik, galaxy is a good brand and zotac too is good but am not sure how the support is for zotac.

The max price to pay for GTX260 should be 11k as HD4890 is now availble for 12.5k and it is lot better card.

Galaxy GTX260+ is a highly recommended card. It comes with Artic Cooling Accelero Twin Turbo (dual fan cooler) and it performs much better than reference design given by nvidia.
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nvidia CUDA Limitations and Requirements

Source: http://www.manifold.net/doc/nvidia_cuda.htm


There are several important constraints on CUDA use within Manifold:



· We must have a CUDA-enabled NVIDIA card installed in our system. 9800 series NVIDIA cards at the present writing are the best-known CUDA-enabled cards, but other NVIDIA GPUs are also CUDA-capable (check with the NVIDIA web site and with your graphics card vendor's web site to see if a particular card is CUDA-capable). Hardware evolves so rapidly under the pressure of gaming industry economy-of-scale that almost before this documentation can be published there will be even faster CUDA-capable cards.

· The rest of our PC system must have sufficient speed and power to support the NVIDIA card. For example, memory must be fast enough to handle CUDA bandwidth and power supplies must provide enough power to run the NVIDIA card (or cards) with extra PCI-E power cables. Consult any technology-obsessed, 14 year old gamer for advice on configuring a suitably "hot" system.

· We must have installed NVIDIA's most recent set of drivers for Windows, which may be downloaded from the nvidia.com web site. NVIDIA's latest drivers automatically install software required for CUDA use by CUDA-capable NVIDIA-based cards.

· If we are running a 64-bit Windows system we must have installed NVIDIA's 64-bit, CUDA-enabled drivers for our 64-bit Windows system.

· Writing massively parallel algorithms to implement spatial functions is extremely difficult, even for manifold.net. Therefore, at the present time only a few dozen functions have been implemented within Manifold that can leverage CUDA. Many more are on the way.

· Existing CUDA-enabled functions within Manifold are Surface - Transform dialog operators for surfaces. The Surface - Transform dialog is part of the optional Surface Tools extension for Manifold (and also a built-in part of some Manifold System editions such as Universal Edition and Ultimate Edition). If we do not have the Surface Tools extension we will not have the ability to use this dialog and hence no ability to leverage CUDA. New updates and future Manifold releases will likely add many more usages of CUDA in addition to the Surface - Transform dialog operators.

· Functions executed within CUDA cards are virtually instantaneous compared to speed of execution within the main processor. However, the NVIDIA stream processors execute tasks so rapidly that it is difficult to provide data fast enough from disk and memory to keep the processors occupied. The resulting performance in most "real life" applications therefore tends to be limited not by processor speed but rather by the speed with which data can be fetched from hard disk or other memory. In addition, a good portion of various tasks are not bound by computation but instead involve overhead tasks such as writing out results to disk, re-computing levels and other necessary but mundane tasks that are not accelerated by CUDA processors. The net result is that as a practical matter for many tasks CUDA-enabled processors will visibly increase speeds, almost always by a factor of two to ten and at times by a factor of ten to fifty, but not usually by factors of hundreds for the overall task even if the actual computation of parts of the task goes hundreds of times faster.

· We can get the most out of CUDA if the rest of our machine does not slow down the ability to feed the insatiable power of NVIDIA stream processors. For maximum speed we should use 64-bit Windows on at least a quad core machine with lots of RAM and large, fast disk drives. Before configuring a new 64-bit system, check the NVIDIA web site to make sure that 64-bit drivers are available for the Windows operating system you plan to install. At the present writing, Windows XP x64 has been used for development of x64 support by manifold.net.

[nads]

desibond now u r upping my budget......:-x

is 4890 price 12.5k only??????

i didnt ask cause i thought it will be costly as hell since its new n top of the line for ATI but i guess i wont go for it because i dont have that much dough :sad:

regarding the galaxy gtx260+ it is with one fan in the middle its not the reference design one but better than that came across dual fan which u mention but i dont think ppl have it here its also not mentioned on their site anything about it......

desibond can u tell me what r the prices for 24" lcd

i dunno which one to buy n how much do they cost....it should be normal spec nothing high it should have a 5ms response time with 1080P n if more the merrier....:|

regards


Thx for ur opinion desibond helped me make the right decision.... never mind the angry face

[desiibond]

what I meant is that buying GTX260 for anything higher than 11k is not worth. Look for this card that is available inside 11k. If not, go for HD4870 for 9.5k-10k or GTS250 for 7.5k
what is the quote for galaxy GTX260+?

in case of zotac or any other brand, make sure that the card comes with 216 stream processors (look at specs written on back of the card's container) a.k.a 216SP

I think 24" displays are around 14k in price. Emmarbee is the right person to check with for LCD displays.

[nads]

i got a qoute for 10900\- for the galaxy 260+ that is with the single fan config...... Do u think its costly i dont mind going for 4870 but i have heard it runs hot....... n the driver support is quite buggy..... when compared to nvidia.....

if u think i should invest in 4870 which brand should i go for..... could u give me some suggestions...... i need this system to be rock solid for atleast 2 years.....

and one more thing desibond will there be a price fall in future i can wait if prices r gonna fall by upto 3-4months............

regards

[desiibond]

prices are definitely going to fall.

ATI is going to bring in DX11 40nm HD5xxx cards in 20 days and that makes the existing lineup kind of old.

if you can wait 3 weeks, yes, you better wait.

And 10.9k is a decent price for GTX260. see if you can bargain it to 10.7k or 10.5k. I would pick this over HD4870.

[nads]

but what about processors????? are prices going to reduce for them also or no.....(both AMD n intel)

i can wait if i get a sweeter deal
:smile:

[desiibond]

prices always reduce.

Chipset: AMD 785G chipset is released but not yet arrived into Indian mainstream market.
CPU: Intel Core i3 and i5 along with X35 chipset to be released early next year.

you can wait for a month or two and buy AMD PHenom II + 785G+DDR3 rig for similar price. and since by that time, processor and GPU price will still reduce, you may get a good deal.

[nads]

Hmmmmm but i m not that much interested in DDR3 cause it is very costly n by the time it has reduced by then i might migrate to core i platform..... so i dont see the point in waiting 2-3months n save 1-2K on the whole setup...... what do u suggest do u still think i should wait......

I am getting 4.25K for my old system is the price ok with the foll spec
C2D e4300 1.83 800FSB
intel DG965RY mobo
1GB DDR2 667 Mhz RAM
MSI 8600GT 512MB Gcard

m not giving my HDD n cabinet is the price he is giving me ok or should i bargain for more.....

u have not told me which brands i should look for if the ATI4870 is cheaper

regards

[desiibond]

for ATI, you can look at Pointofview, powercolor for cheaper price and sapphire, xfx, patit, gigabyte, asus, msi for premium brands.

i think you can bargain a bit more. and yes, wait atleast till ati releases DX11 based 40nm cards. That may kick in another set of price cuts from nvidia and ATI for existing lineup and it's not far. Release date is August 8th worldwide.

Also, you better keep an eye on availability of GTX260 and HD4870.

[nads]

but the temptation to upgrade is soooo intense...........:sad:

how much will i be saving if i upgrade later on......

as i told u if i will be saving a couple of thousand bucks then i better upgrade because at any point if i purchase the prices r gona drop..... so unless the savings r gonna be huge then i might wait....
what do u say?????

[desiibond]

hmm. even if you save a thousand bucks and the h/w price drops by 2000 bucks, you ill be saving 3k or you can get a better rig.

anyways, I think you can go for the rig now if you can't resist the temptation. I did the same with my GPU and CPU. And after just few days Phenom II was released but the GPU that I bought was completely out of stock for a long time and it never went down to same price of 7.2k. So I had 50% luck.

[nads]

well then let it be...........

i will go ahead n purchase the rig today...... cause even in a months time the prices as usual r gonna fall (no mater what new or old stuff arrives) n the new stuff which will come will not be affordable at my buget for another looooooong time.....

wish this config stand for atleast 2 yrs........

will let u know the prices i got the rig for desibond in the evening......

desibond one final query i have a option of VIP 600W or cooler master extreme 600W which one should i go for VIP is for 2900 n cooler master is for 3500 never useed VIP so no idea is cooler master worth the 600Rs premium......(sorry i want to spare every penny now cause because thx to desibond i have spalsh a lot more than i could :x)

n desibond u also have the same motherboard which u have recommended me so i wanted to ask is ur mobo Rev2.0 or 1.0 because on gigabytes site there r 2 variation so which one is generally available n how should i check it if its not written on the box... cause rev2.0 has SB710 chipset n rev1.0 has sb700 n what is the difference between the 2 any performance gains?????? (apart from the 6 USB port at the back panel)

Regards

[desiibond]

among those two I would pick CM 600W but my suggestion would be to get Corsair VX450W atleast :)

[nads]

but the galaxy GTX260+ requires minimum of 500W of juice as mentioned on their side...... but isnt 450W a bit lower for GTX260??????

[desiibond]

A 600W ExtremePower has efficiency rating of 70%. Means that though it takes 600W of power, it can only give 420W of power but as per reviews it stuggles even at that power usage level.

And VX450W has 87% efficiency which means that it can gives 392W of power and is totally stable even at max power load.

PSU selector: http://www.corsair.com/psufinder/default.aspx.

that link will help you find out how much power is needed.

[nads]

thks for ur reply but desibond i check my wattage requirement at http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine and i have gone extreme to be frank (cause i dont want to compromise with my dear components) i have gone for the peak load ie 100% (which is not possible everytime but still) and capacitor aging at 20% n i have got 452W ok now even if we reduce this by say around 30W we still still get 422W now which PSU can give me clean n stable power of 425W ........ pls let me know i m a complete noob in PSUs.... cause till now iu have never purchased PSU seperately so pls help me with going with a proper PSU desibond.......... going in the afternoon at lamington road to procure my stuff so pls let me know ASAP.......

regards

[desiibond]

how much will be your budget for a PSU.

Corsair VX450W is known to operate even at 100% efficiency. But that simply means running it at full load all the time and may reduce the life of the PSU.

Look for any 550W PSU with 80PLUS certification which looks like this:

http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_join.aspx

That would give you enough headroom if you want to change your processor to quadcore or add more HDDs.

PSUs like Corsair VX series come with a 5yr warranty which means that in that time, you will be changing your h/w.

these are the well known brands that make 80PLUS certified PSUs

1) Corsair
2) Antec
3) Tagan
4) Glacialpower
5) Seasonic
6) Coolermaster (real power series)

Pick the one based on your budget. if you are on a strict budget of 3.5k-4k, VX450W should be the best choice.

[topgear]

A 600W ExtremePower has efficiency rating of 70%. Means that though it takes 600W of power, it can only give 420W of power but as per reviews it stuggles even at that power usage level.

And VX450W has 87% efficiency which means that it can gives 392W of power and is totally stable even at max power load.

PSU selector: http://www.corsair.com/psufinder/default.aspx.

that link will help you find out how much power is needed.

This is a great misconception. A 500W PSU with 80% efficiency rated means it will draw 600W from the power socket :p

PSU efficiency means :

how much power the PSU draws from the main socket in order to deliver the the rig with the required power.

Refer to this page for morte info :

http://www.motherboards.org/articles/guides/1487_7.html

[nads]

hello guys.....
got my new spec yeterday...... m really satisfied except a few niggles here n there..... this my first ever AMD system n i hope the experience will be gud..... the processor is just way to gud.... n it runs cool too on the stock cooler which i doubted after looking at the heatsink..... its always between 35-40C on normal workloads (i mean installing stuff)... the galaxy gtx260+ card is humongous it covers the whole span of my cabinet, n one thing which i came to know is that when i install the graphic card i dont have acess to to the SATA ports on the mobo...... this was a sham n i was really afraid cause i thought the money is goner (since i had opened the mobo box which was sealed) but then gigabyte had provide the L head SATA connector n that somehow fitted (although touching the GTX260 card at the bottom) n i guess will be able to use only 3 ports out of 5 (thats ok cause as of now i just need 2 n in future mebbe i will go for RAID0) but it is a serious flaw which cnnot be overlooked......another thing which bothered me (since this is my first mini ATX mobo never had one bfore) was the placement of the connectors of front headers (power LED, siwitchetc) is again so close to the graphics card, i know its a mni ATX mobo so space is at a premiuim but the wires do touch the card n chances r there that they might melt if temperatire rises (had no such problems with my old setup) n the circulation of air will be a prob too i guess because of the huge card my cabinet is looking small so mebbe i will go for a new cabinet so that air can flow freely. Apart from this i faced problems like BSOD which went away once i ugraded the BIOS to the latest version n now the BIOS shows the name of my processor properly previouly it couldnt....... m installing all the softwares right now while i type this n will defrag ne streamline everything so its silky smooth...... Another odd thing whihc has happened is that when i was browsing the net with speefan in the background after sometime i get BSOD n then the comp crashed n restarts itself....... it happened 3-4 times, i dunno what has caused this n m icthing to know y it gave me BSOD...... so once i install my stuff properly with the games also i will let u know how the 260+ works with the mobo have high hopes so let us see will keep u guys updated.....

As promised here is the doug i paid to get this new stuff (Thx to desibond my budget was way extend but neverthless will be happy once i see the gaming potential of the machine then will decide what i should do with desibond)

AMD PhenomII X2 550+ Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2h------10000/-
Galaxy GTX260+ (216SP)OC ------ 10600/-
VIP SMPS 600W------2900/-
Samsung DVD writer 22x------1100/-

n mebbe i guess will have to go for a new cabinet so pls guys lookin to u once again for helping me out my budget is around 2500/- so i need a sturdy n roomy cabinet.....
Ur suggestion r welcome guys.....

Regards

[desiibond]

Congrats on your first AMD rig. Also, enable "cool'n'quiet" which lowers CPU speed when not fully utilized. You can do the same in BIOS and then in windows power management, you need to pick power saver mode.

If you are loking for a cabinet for2.5k rupees, I would suggest CM Elite 335.

can you post a snapshot of inside of your cabinet so that we can advise on cable management??

It the cabinets power connectors are touching GPU, you better tie them with a band and try to tuck them under the mobo
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This is a great misconception. A 500W PSU with 80% efficiency rated means it will draw 600W from the power socket :p

PSU efficiency means :

how much power the PSU draws from the main socket in order to deliver the the rig with the required power.

Refer to this page for morte info :

http://www.motherboards.org/articles/guides/1487_7.html

damn. how did I miscalculate. This. Thanks a lot buddy for the info.

[nads]

thx desibond i will look into Cooler master series n i will post the pic of my CPU too.....

but now i m facing a peculiar problem....... i cont understand what to do mebbe desibond can help..... i connect to the internet through LAN n the prob i told u previously that i get a BSOD when i browse for 3-5mins...... i m consistenly getting it i dunno what is causing that and the speed is also very slow...... i can say this because when i connect to my dell studio 15 it works normally.... what could be the prob something in the bios which i have missed.... this thing is getting on my nerve...... have updated all my drivers (including BIOS) have checked the integrety of the connection in the bios also where it troubleshoots for the connection..... something i have missed in the BIOS pls guys help me out ......


regards

[desiibond]

Should be a driver conflict between new h/w and removed h/w (assuming that you have not reinstalled windows).

Put in any linux live CD/DVD and check how stable it is and how browsing is.

Also, uninstall all the drivers and reinstall the new ones.

[nads]

deisbond when i tried using the same Win xp installation from my own config it wouldnt boot ahead of the win logo tried with n without the 260 card but i used to get BSOD (i had changed to IDE IN THE Bios).... So i went for a fresh install hesitantly...... but now this browsing problem has turned up have already updated all the drivers from the gigabyte site but then also this problem is occuring........but on the other hand my studio 15 is working fine same win xp...... so the connection problem is ruled out..... any other thing it could be apart from driver conflict.....


and m complete noob in linux so i dont think will be trying that...

regards

[janitha]

but on the other hand my studio 15 is working fine same win xp....
regards

Are you using the Win XP CD received with the studio 15?

[desiibond]

deisbond when i tried using the same Win xp installation from my own config it wouldnt boot ahead of the win logo tried with n without the 260 card but i used to get BSOD (i had changed to IDE IN THE Bios).... So i went for a fresh install hesitantly...... but now this browsing problem has turned up have already updated all the drivers from the gigabyte site but then also this problem is occuring........but on the other hand my studio 15 is working fine same win xp...... so the connection problem is ruled out..... any other thing it could be apart from driver conflict.....


and m complete noob in linux so i dont think will be trying that...

regards

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=3118&ost=xp#anchor_os

Download fresh drivers from here.


Have you tried to play any games or tried to use any other application for long time like Video playback or audio playback?

If it happens only while browsing, it could be a problem with LAN drivers or there could be an IRQ conflict.

[johnrosswrock]

does any one know compaq nx6120 laptop 1 Gb ram rates?????

[nads]

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=3118&ost=xp#anchor_os

Download fresh drivers from here.


Have you tried to play any games or tried to use any other application for long time like Video playback or audio playback?

If it happens only while browsing, it could be a problem with LAN drivers or there could be an IRQ conflict.





i tried everything n i am tired now......nothing seems to be working to resolve the BSOD while browsing...... tried swapping new n old drivers but that also seems not to work, Even did complete format n reinstalled winxp twice but that also dosnt seem to help either :-( its still crashing... when i connect the lan cable the light /receiving light keeps on blinking continously (this phenomenon is with the latest lan driver from the gigabyte site) n when i load the old drivers it connects but at a slow speed n tthen gives ,e a BSOD for 1/2 a sec n then reboots......As u told desibond i tried playing GTR2 evolution for 21/2hrs n worked on 3ds max for another 1 hr nothing happened...... the system was stressed completely while i was playing at a high res so i guess the system is stable except the bloody LAN...... everything seems to be fine in the device manager toooo...... pls guys help me to resolve this issue....... what could it be..... i have a similar problem with my Samsung NC10 previously the LAN was working n browsing was smooth but lately the receiving light blinks just like in my new system....do lan wires have current fluctuations i dunno???? since my dell studio 15 is working fine n my old stem was tooo...... n by the way ddesibond i tried the lan diagnostic from the BIOS n realtek diagnostic utility tooo (from the supplied CD)n they show no hardware errors n they complete all the test sucessfully...... ur opinions r welcom......

regards
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Are you using the Win XP CD received with the studio 15?


no i m using a fresh win xp SP3 CD with which i have installed numerous time including Dell studio15 n samsung NC10 n not to mention many a times on my old mc toooo....... Dell studio ships with vista n i hate vista like anything.....yucks.....

[desiibond]

^^Hmm. can you post a screenshot of BSOD. Take a pic using camera or note down error code and file it is pointing to.

[MSR@THNIK]

Guys it seems AMD 785G mobos out
biostar A785GE RS 3240 TA785GE 128M RS 4156 (both ddr2)
ASUS M4A785TD-V EV0 (DDR3) RS 6888
@ lynx-india

[tkin]

^^Hmm. can you post a screenshot of BSOD. Take a pic using camera or note down error code and file it is pointing to.
Wouldn't a minidump help more?

[Cilus]

This is for the LAPTOP:

If you want a really good gaming laptop on a tight budget, u can have a look in one of the oldest brands around who recently relaunched their laptop and Desptops with a new goal: super performance and tight budget.
I'm talking about Zenith, guys.
Their newly launched laptops are really high end and price is almost same as their counterparts with same config in US market.
At your budget you can go for a Zenith SO Director Plus Ultra. The price is 44k, but at online it is available at 33k. URL: http://zenith-india.com/zenithso-directorplusultra-bb.aspx
Config:
C2D 6500 (2 Ghz, 800Mhz FSB, 2MB L2 Cache)
Intel® PM45 + ICH9-M Chipset Motherboard (1066MHz FSB)
2 GB DDR2 (Max supported 8 GB)
8X DVD Writer
320 GB SATA, 5400 rpm
Integrated 2.0 Mega Pixel Web Camera
Display - 15.4” WXGA+ Wide TFT display – WXGA (1280x 800)
Video Controller-NVidia GeForce 9600M GS Discrete Graphics Controller with 512 MB Dedicated Video RAM
86 Key, Keypad with Windows function keys
Integrated Wireless Card
Integrated Bluetooth
Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit LAN
56K Modem V.90/92 support
PCI Express Card Slot / 54 Support
Memory Card Reader - Supports Memory Stick (MS), MS PRO, Multi Media Card (MMC), Secure Digital (SD) Cards
Audio System - Built-in High Definition Audio – 2 Channel; 2 Stereo Speakers; 2 Omni-Directional Digital Microphones
I/O Ports - CRT Port, 2 USB Port Version 2.0, RJ45 Connector For Ethernet,1 RJ 11 Connector For Modem,2 Audio Jack For Headphone–Out, Mic. In, 1 e-SATA/USB Combo Port; HDMI Port, Port replicator Port
Power Supply - 6 cell Li-Ion Battery Pack
Power Management - Full feature ACPI Power Management; stand-by, suspend to disk, suspend to RAM. ACPI 2.0 supported with Intel SpeedStep
Indicators - Power on/Suspend, Battery charging, Wireless LAN, HDD Access, , Caps Lock And Num Lock
Power - 90 W Adapter
Security - Kensington Lock Hole
Accessories - Power Cord, System Driver CD
Warranty - One Year Warranty on the Laptop

[tkin]

Samsung T220(22",1680x1050,2ms) for 12,100/-+Tax, Kolkata.

[topgear]

^^ Congrats :p

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 CPU Cooler ( Air ) Rs. 2450
CoolerMaster 120mm Blue Led Fan ( 2000RPM - 90CFM ) Rs. 520

[johnrosswrock]

CAN ANY ONE TELL ME RATES OF COMPAQ nx6120 1 GB RAM PLEASE.........

[desiibond]

^^dude. just give a call to HP customer care or call your local dealer.

you can also check here:

1) lynx-india.com
2) theitwares.com

[official]

Can anyone tell me the price of gtx 260 and 280???
PSU required to run them along with prices.
Any ati cards with better performance.
Any suggestion are welcome.

[hellknight]

Sapphire Radeon 4890 for Rs. 13069/

Make sure that you have atleast 500 W or more powerful PSU for these monsters..

[nads]

Galaxy GTX260+------10600/-
VIP 600W---------2900/-

I got these components 4-5 days back so the prices r quite recent.....

Regards

[desiibond]

^^Hey nads, are those BSODs resolved?

[nads]

hiya desibond

the fault was zeroed in to the ethernet socket on my wall which had one of its pin bent n it hence it was causing the crashes..... thats all i could conjure up until now cause my ISP fellow connected my comp direclty to the my NC10 (which was also not connecting) started working properly..... so i guess this is the problem..... now the guy has promised me to replace the female RJ45 socket on my wall today n will update u guys hows it going..... in all probability it should be working well but u never know.... as for the setup i went for a new cabinet cause my old cabbie was feeling very cramped n for reasons unknown (mebbe cause it was 2 1/2yrs old) the LCD display which used to show my cabbies temp went off n could start again..... n since the GTX 260 card was damn hot when the case was open...... so i didnt wanted to take any chance n i went for a zebronics Reaper (sorry desibond but couldnt go with ur recs cause was low on cash splurged everything on the cpu+mobo+graphics Card) well i will be posting some pics of my cabinet as u wanted to see the insides.... 8-)

one more thing... what should be the ideal case temp......... cause my old case was much cooler than my new case dunno if its the diff between MSI 8600GT or the 260GTX...... but the card is like a flaming torch..... to tell u honestly i have never gone for such a costly card (my old cards comprise of SiS 6326 8MB,Riva TNT2 32MB,GeForce 6600GT 128MBDDR,XFX 8500GT 256MB , MSI 8600GT 512DDR2 n now GTX260) or powerful card yet i mean i always purchased cards in the range of 6-8K n i was never a high res gaming freak what mattered was the FPS for me..... so the GTX260 is quite a huge leap for me n the performance which i m getting is just insane.....

i mean ofcourse its not a GTX295 (cant imagine tht card) but i still cant get my card on the knees with the games which i m playing right now i used to game with the 8600GT on res of 1024 not more than that n with this card (i have a 19" viewsonic) i can play on the native res of my comp flawlessly...... n the CPU is damn Gud.... i thought AMDs r snails compared to intels but m proven wrong......no need for me to overclock as on date it has enough juice plus more for me at the moment but have read that it can be stable at 3.8Ghz with stock cooling.... n the prospect of unlocking the other 2 cores just makes me rub my hands in glee....;-)

Thx desibond for ur recomendations appreciate a lot......will post the picks of my cpu ASAP

regards

[desiibond]

great that the problem is going to rectified but strange that it occured due to faulty socket :)

I do like Zebronics reaper is good VFM cabinet. Also, does is there an option to install side fans. coz one side fan can bring the temperatures down.

[nads]

here r the pics of new system......

[nads]

some more pics of my new baby.....

[nads]

so thats all i guess...... desibond u didnt tell me how much temp is ideal temp for the cabinet in my old system i had 2 fans on the side 80mm i guess n they were high rpm fans with that switched on i used to get a cabbie temp of around 3-4C more than the ambient temperature (eg: ambient temp is 30C then cabbie temp would be 33-34C) but now my cabbies temp is around 40C with all the 3 fans working in the reaper i dont understand y..... but u should know this the reaper has 2 fans on the side panel one is 120mm n the other is 80mm n both r slow rpm fans plus the 120mm fan pushes air in the cabinet n the 80mm pulls out air from the cabinet...... then there is another fan i thinks its 92mm which pulls the from the cabinet n throws it out from the top..... then also the temps r so high...... one more thing which i noted was the 80mm on the side is quite effective while playing games because it actually throws hot air out (80 mm fan directly on top of the GTX260 n the 120mm fan just alil lower than the CPU) so its quite effective.... but i still want to reduce the temps in my cabbie......

CPU temps inrange of 40to max 50C upon load
GPU temp in range of 47 to max 63C upon load

CPU is ok but GPU is a concern for me..... kindly help..... n cant do anything about the cables cause there is no space in the cabbie for anything else....

opinions r welcome

[desiibond]

anything under 45 should be just fine given that you have a GTX260.

Those temperatures of under 50 are pretty good actually. Don't worry about that. If you want to reduce them further, get Cooler Master 120mm fan and put on the side panel and also try to put the second 80mm fan on side panel to send air into the cabinet as there are already two fans (rear and top) that are pushing air out).

upload images to imageshack.us and put the forum links in the post. those images that you uploaded to forum are not accessible.

[azaad_shri75]

some more pics of my new baby.....

pics not opening.

[nads]

well no updates as of now no dough :sad::sad::sad:......well will live with 50C as of now but will change the 80mm fan on the side panel ASAP.....

n sorry bout the pics not opnening here r the links for the pics (sorry the res of the pics r low clicked with my sony camera my Digi cam batt has died out on me :-(:-()

http://img405.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dsc01148.jpg

let me know if u guys can see it or noooo

regards

[damngoodman999]

Hey nads

i too use the reaper cabinet , its close combat cabinet the air will be ventilated nicely so make 3 ventilation fans , as for GTX 260

Idle temp is 50 - 55
Load temp is 70 - 75

[nads]

r those the temps u r getting on ur rig pls let us know......

n i dont think i should be worrying if those r the temps these stuff is meaant to operate at.......

[desiibond]

let me post temperatures in my PC that has 120mm CM fan and uses lot less heat generating HD4770. You will then get an idea on how good your cabinet's cooling is right now :)

[desiibond]

Update:

I was trying to overclock my card using ATI Overdrive's auto tune.

Default core clock: 750MHz
Default Memory clock: 800MHz

current values;

core clock: 820MHz
memory clock: 815MHz

temperatures: 75C to 78C (card stressed at 87% load continuously for past couple of minutes).
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PS: WHen I tried to do the same to my earlier card (2600XT), it used to become totally unstable after little bit of overclocking but this one looks to be rock solid

[damngoodman999]

r those the temps u r getting on ur rig pls let us know......

n i dont think i should be worrying if those r the temps these stuff is meaant to operate at.......

Yes dude thats normal , the Higher end cards will always generate this much heat if u want to lower means - Try This

open the side panel which the LED fans are there disconnect the led fans , keep the table fan in the side of the cabinet .

u ll get 43 Idle & 65 Load

But u'll get lots of dust

The Reference cooler GTX 260 temperatures are Idle 60-65
Load 85 - 95 , thats old GTX 65nm

Dont worry ! these are normal

[AVSEQ]

Any idea which company's UPS is best? My friend wants to buy one for normal computer operations i.e. without any graphics card etc. Please advise the specification and price.

[desiibond]

APC. no second thought!!!

spec and price depends on how much power the rig needs.

[nads]

alright then guys i will stop worrying bout tthe temps think they r cool enough..... n have no plans to keep a tableFan to cool my rig m not that extreme......my last cabbie zebronics lava used to have 2 high rpm fan on the side n i know every month i was used to open my cabbie n clean a hell of the dust of my 8600 n the mobo the reaper is having slow rpm fans so let us see how much of a problem that will be......

BTW dangoodman is ur prone to dust inside..... let me know.....

desibond those r really hot temps i used to overcocl my 8600GT n never ever reached above 65C n i mean extreme overclocking

Core clock default 540---- i use to keep it at 700Mhz
memory clock default 800------i used to keep it at 966Mhz

n guess what my MSI card had passive cooling n no memory heatsink....... i should mention though that the cabbies 1 of the side fan was placed near the card n the air would directly hit 2 of the heat pipes of the card....ie i guess i could push it so high.... but i just luved that card i could run all my games including crysis at medium settings at 1024 res n get around 35-40FPS without any stuttering...... but lately the games were getting hold of the card so decided to dump them in favor of the new rig..... here r my overclock settings if u r interested...... though i couldnt do a hardware overclock to my proccy because i had a intel original mobo DG965RY so had to resort to setfSB n the 8600gt was overclock using the msi dual core program......sort of like ntune.....

E4300 default spd 1.8Ghz------to 2.26Ghz (stock cooling anything above that the comp freezed)

MSI geforce8600Gt 540/800------to 702/966Mhz


n the cabbie temp would rise like only 2-3C than normal temps but thats expected

[desiibond]

65 degree to 75 degree at ful load is usual and I don't think that's heavy.

you are reallylucky to have that 8600GT runnning cool. people used to prepare omlette and prepare hot water for bath on that card :)

[nads]

Hmmm i had read that 8800 were hot running cards but 8600gt not much...... anywayz i have stopped worrying bout the temps...... n regarding the BSOD which i was getting it has been resolved...... replaced the female side of my RJ45 cable (it had a bent pin inside) n the comp is running fine no crashes et all...... ao at last everything is fine n installed n running as it should.......

now only one issue is left its not a serious one though n this querstion is for damngoodman999...... since u also have the reaper cabbie u must have got a small speaker which gives out the BIOS beeps.... the prob is that when i attach that to my mobo n when the comp starts the POST the beep is continous (according to my mobo if everything is normal it should give one beep n carry on with the POST) but in my case the comp starts normally but the beep is continous tried both the sides of the speaker pins either way on the mobo but the same result when this mobo was in my old cabbie it would give one beep normally.... so its a speaker problem do u also have the same?????? just curious.... this is the only thing to be resolved now rest all is working smooth........

[desiibond]

Nads,

u sure that you connected all the front header properly?

[jaganvignesh]

ok guys, how can i find whether my fans are high rpm ones or low rpm rigs?

[mumblehere]

2day bought samsung 2033 plus for rs 7850 for uncle. i bot same last month for rs 7500.

they told prices ve risen, is it so?

as its onam festival in kerala, i think distributors ve increased the price in kerala, or its increasing nationwide?

told memory prices also increasing.

[nads]

yes desibond i have connected all the front headers properly as i have said above that in my old cabbie the beep was coming properly but now with the cabbie change its continous so i guess the prob is with the speaker provided with the cabbie...... ur opinion is welcome if i m missin somthing.......

[desiibond]

2day bought samsung 2033 plus for rs 7850 for uncle. i bot same last month for rs 7500.

they told prices ve risen, is it so?

as its onam festival in kerala, i think distributors ve increased the price in kerala, or its increasing nationwide?

told memory prices also increasing.

it happens. as the pricing is based on dollar value and inventory, we can't always expect prices to go down all the time.

[AVSEQ]

APC. no second thought!!!

spec and price depends on how much power the rig needs.

Well these are the configurations of my friend
Processor: Core2Duo 2.8 Ghz
RAM: Kingston 2 GB DDR2
Motherboard: Intel DG33TL
HDD: Seagate 160 GB SATA

What would be the proper spec of UPS?

[desiibond]

650VA I think is enough.

[virilecliffhanger]

what would be the price of a 1TB external HDD
here around my place it seems that the cost is around 9k
but one of my good friends in Mumbai says it's just 5k?
can u guys tell me if I can get 1tb for 5 grands in hyd?

[desiibond]

^^no. 1Tb internal is around 4.5k and external should be around 7k if I am right.

[virilecliffhanger]

I hope and ya I know that HDD's are of same dimensions... may not be the thickness...
so y can't I purchase a 1TB internal and a external case and use it ? Will that be great?
pros? cons? help me out

[desiibond]

yes. but don't go for cheap 400 rupee external cases as they don't provide stable power and results in HDD crashes.

look for Antec or coolermaster cases but then again it would cost the same as external seagate/WD HDDs.

[topgear]

Externel 3.5 inch :

WD 1TB My Book Essential @ Rs.5175
WD 1TB My Book Home Edition @ Rs.6150
Seagate 1TB FreeAgent @ Rs.5225

@ desiibond - I'm using a cheap externel case from techcom with one of my old 320GB IDE HDD & it's working perfectly fine for more than 15 months :p

[desiibond]

^^how is the power pin that is connected to the external HDD case. Is it round plug in like laptop charger or does it look like S-Video connector?

[virilecliffhanger]

Externel 3.5 inch :

WD 1TB My Book Essential @ Rs.5175
WD 1TB My Book Home Edition @ Rs.6150
Seagate 1TB FreeAgent @ Rs.5225

@ desiibond - I'm using a cheap externel case from techcom with one of my old 320GB IDE HDD & it's working perfectly fine for more than 15 months :p

thats it... where do u get such prices?
I can go for Seagate 1TB FreeAgent @ Rs.5225 right away.. but where?
And, would it cost lesser if I order it from US thru a friend?

[Krow]

^Get WD mybook essential i say. Seagate is failing a lot these days!

[topgear]

^^how is the power pin that is connected to the external HDD case. Is it round plug in like laptop charger or does it look like S-Video connector?

It's looks like s-video connector :p
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thats it... where do u get such prices?
I can go for Seagate 1TB FreeAgent @ Rs.5225 right away.. but where?
And, would it cost lesser if I order it from US thru a friend?

I got the quotes from :
http://www.theitwares.com/

[virilecliffhanger]

It's looks like s-video connector :p
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I got the quotes from :
http://www.theitwares.com/

Thanks cuz. looks like a great site....
btw E8400 core 2 duo is still going strong on price 8950.. :D

[damngoodman999]

Thanks cuz. looks like a great site....
btw E8400 core 2 duo is still going strong on price 8950.. :D

Who will buy that E8400 no human will buy this time , AMD is kicking out Intel in 2009 in all PRICE TAGS :idea:

[Krow]

^Precisely! C2D E8400 is no longer a good buy as at arnd the same price(add only Rs.600-800), one can buy Phenom II X4 920/940!

Phenom II X3 740 should also be arnd 8k which should positively kick the hell out of E8400.

[desiibond]

^^True. E8400 is no more VFM. People might say that it gives much better FPS over AMD dual cores. But if you compare X2 550 with E8400, the differnce isn't much but X2 550 is 4k cheaper and if you put that 4k into GPU budget, you will get much much better GPU, which takes gaming to next level.

[mandar5]

hi guys i wanna build rig on modest 30k budget for maya,3dmax,adobe cs3!should i go for amd or intel?

[virilecliffhanger]

^^True. E8400 is no more VFM. People might say that it gives much better FPS over AMD dual cores. But if you compare X2 550 with E8400, the differnce isn't much but X2 550 is 4k cheaper and if you put that 4k into GPU budget, you will get much much better GPU, which takes gaming to next level.
Are you guys serious? btw i was talking about price going strong .. not whether we should get it ;)
I don't know I feet lotta aversion towards amd... diskliked it right from my 2800+

[desiibond]

^^yes. Am dead serious. any specifi reason why you disliked? Earlier versions of P3 and entire lineup of P4s were disasters. Especially P4s. they used to generate lot of heat, not good at multitasking and were beaten fair and square by Athlons. But then they came back with core2duo's and core2quads.

Now atleast AMD has answer to core2duos with Athlon II and Phenom II which cost lot less but match their competition and easily beat competition that is at same price.

[bs25]

would u provide rates 4 following graphic cards ...
xfx geforce 9600gso
xfx geforce 9600gt
palit geforce 9600gt
zotac geforcegt eco
am planning to buy one... also if u could recommend one...?

[Krow]

^Palit 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 @ 4.5-4.7k is the best. Get it.

[topgear]

^^ +100 for that. I'm using it. Go for it. :p

[damngoodman999]

Palit is now a days doing good ! me too using GTX260 happy with that !

[nads]

guys a friend of mine is planning to buy a PSP for the first time n asked me to help him decide which model to go for did some research on the net..... n m confused as to which one to buy the PSP2000 or 3000..... as far as i know we can use homebrew firmware for PSP2000 but not for 3000 (only for US n Japan models i read somewhere).... since my friend is interested to run his games from the MS stick most of the time...... I m new to PSP never had one but been researching it for the past few days n i need ur opinion guys as to which one to go for..... PSP3000 also has some interlacing problems i dunno if that has been rectified...... n the mic is not necessary..... n guys pls let me know the prices tooooo....... n what do u think about the PSP1000(phat) lemme knoow ASAP........thx

[desiibond]

you can go for Sony PSP 3000 or wait for PSP Go which costs 250$ and releasing on October 1st and may be released in India by end of October.

[nads]

not interested in PSP go desibond the screens tooo small n it looks like a nintendo....... n my friends hates them......we just have to decide on psp2000 or 3000..... which one is better n what r the prices...... remember games should run off the MS stick.... thats priority no1....... n is sony launching a new variant of PSP (apart from Go ofcourse)...... n guys lemme know the prices too in mumbai......

Thx

[desiibond]

as per gamespot:

The PSP-3000 plays the same games and offers the same media support as the older PSP models, but Sony has upgraded the system with an improved LCD screen and a new built-in microphone. The LCD is the same size and resolution as older PSP displays, but it has a "wider color gamut and anti-reflection technology," according to the latest Sony press release.

http://au.gamespot.com/features/6196930/index.html

[nads]

i m aware of that desibond but what about the interlacing issues in the psp3000 has that been resolved .....

[pacifistr]

Update -
Gigabyte M61PME-S2H - 2150
AMD Athlon II X2 250 - 4000

[desiibond]

i m aware of that desibond but what about the interlacing issues in the psp3000 has that been resolved .....

hmm. i don't think they were fixed.

[vaibhav_jain]

hi please tell me what are the currnet prices of COrsair VX450W PSU and HD4650 or HD 4670 or 9600GT based garphics card (Also mention the good company for the graphics card which good support in delhi) in delhi.

[topgear]

Corsair VX450W Rs. 4-4.4K
Sapphire HDHD4650 512MB GDDR2 Rs. 3.8K
Sapphire HD4670 512MB GDDR3 Rs. 4.4K
Palit or Zotac 9600GT Rs. 4.6-4.8K