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Ponmayilal
21-12-2007, 06:11 PM
You still got stale routing issues @ponmayilal?

yep @ cyrus, today I could confirm that there is indeed "dead routing" as you had mentioned when the noise margin dropped below 3db.
Starting at 7db when I started at 0715 hrs this morning, it dropped to 3 by 1300hrs and the net started crawling.I could not carry out the speed test. Though it would open the site,it was downloading the test.bin file (that runs the test) at an abysmally low rate.I opened the DU meter stopwatch and ascertained the download rate as 1.1 kBps that is 8kbps.I have screenshots of the the route traced before and after. Though the route traced is the same, there are packet losses all along starting at the immediate gateway.Here is part of the image
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I switched off the modem 1645 hrs and on again after 30 minutes. I am back on the net at a noise margin of 7db.More later.

Cyrus_the_virus
21-12-2007, 07:51 PM
yep @ cyrus, today I could confirm that there is indeed "dead routing" as you had mentioned when the noise margin dropped below 3db.
Starting at 7db when I started at 0715 hrs this morning, it dropped to 3 by 1300hrs and the net started crawling.I could not carry out the speed test. Though it would open the site,it was downloading the test.bin file (that runs the test) at an abysmally low rate.I opened the DU meter stopwatch and ascertained the download rate as 1.1 kBps that is 8kbps.I have screenshots of the the route traced before and after. Though the route traced is the same, there are packet losses all along starting at the immediate gateway.Here is part of the image
I switched off the modem 1645 hrs and on again after 30 minutes. I am back on the net at a noise margin of 7db.More later.

Please refer to my post here (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=695235&postcount=2712)

There's no point waiting and watching anymore, make sure you ask your exchange to do what's mentioned in that post.

Ponmayilal
21-12-2007, 08:52 PM
ya, referring to your post there were some specific questions.
1. Whether it is possible to adjust the line's noise margin in the exchange??

Theoretically we all know that by increasing the signal strength, the noise margin or SNR can be increased.

Practically speaking, whether it is possible to tune the line's SNR in the exchange either in the DSLAM or associated equipment?

2. If it were so , should not have BSNL tuned the SNR of each line when the ADSL connection is given?

Look at din's case. If it were so simple, why should the AGM or DGM visit him and try out a different "new" line, different modem and toil for hours together, that finally fetched no result?

praka123
21-12-2007, 09:02 PM
^ if they cant solve current customers,why are they giving aDSL broadband on remote exchanges afaik they are setting up broadband service in remote villages in kerala!I feel bsnl will be down by the amount of complaints they are gonna get!
yeah,they have already completed OFC in most places here i think except idukki or malabar.

Cyrus_the_virus
21-12-2007, 09:26 PM
Look at din's case. If it were so simple, why should the AGM or DGM visit him and try out a different "new" line, different modem and toil for hours together, that finally fetched no result?
It's different in his case.

In your case, when the SNR drops, you get no routing because of the simple fact that all data packets on the line will be dropped due to the distrubance on the line because of such low SNR values, but your connection never lost synch from what you've mentioned.

In din's case, his sych drops out constantly which might or might not be due to SNR issue, it's not confirmed. Intermittent loss of synch can happen due to many other factors other than SNR.

I'll give you an example, there was this one client of ours, who's connection just stops working from around 5pm till the next morning, we did all the possible things, no one could figure out wtf the problem was, finally we found out that the customer's phone line was running close to his christmas tree, and everyday he turns on the light on the tree at 5pm and switches it off in the morning, that was the bloody culprit. I'm sure from what din has done, there's no christmas tree http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/10.gif or any other electrical running in his house close to the phone line. I suspect some interference everyday at a specific time either somewhere close to his line in between his house and the exchange or in the exchange itself. That's going to be a mystery to find out. I suspect 100% that it's man made interference because it cannot be a co-incidence for loss of synch everyday at pretty much the same time.


1. Whether it is possible to adjust the line's noise margin in the exchange??

Theoretically we all know that by increasing the signal strength, the noise margin or SNR can be increased.

Practically speaking, whether it is possible to tune the line's SNR in the exchange either in the DSLAM or associated equipment?
The change is made on the console of the system, not one equipment, because couple of equipment make up the system. As I might have mentioned before, I'm not sure if the implementation of MAX in India is going to be the same way as what I've seen internationally. Normally like in the UK, BT's got things like BRAS, RAMBO, DSLAM etc which make up the system and it's controled via a console. All the equipment work hand in hand to monitor, regulate, re-synchronise and stabilize the line. So, it's not just one equipment.



2. If it were so , should not have BSNL tuned the SNR of each line when the ADSL connection is given?
They should have.. if they knew what it is and how it affects the linehttp://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/10.gif

Tuning the SNR is what a stabilization period is meant for.

din
22-12-2007, 10:07 AM
@Ponmayilal

Regarding my case, still neither me nor the BSNL officials know what exactly the problem was !!!!

Anyway I think it is not because of any single reason, may be multiple things. Like they changed modem first but then it was near UPS. I kept modem away from UPS thinking there may be electrical interference, then there was internal wiring. Like that we tried everything one by one I / BSNL officials can think of. Finally totally new UG cable, totally new modem, new pair of cables etc solved it. I mean , I belive it is solved as BB is up for the last 54 hrs (which is a record and never happened for me before when I was using the black modem lol). I really hope it is all ok now !

Regarding BSNL, I really understand your frustation. I am not sure whether you know my story (most senior members here know that). I had a very big fight with BSNL officials regarding the delay in getting telephone connection. I complained from exchange level to Union Cabinet minister level (yes he also replied me !). Used Right to Information act, launched a website explaining my experiences with BSNL officials, sent a lot of complaints in registered post to many top officials, made hundreds of phone calls, sent a lot of emails. But that is all over now and I got BB finally. So I think I will tell you something from my experience. Do not call or send email / letter to officials much. That is of not much use. Instead go there and meet the officials. I know it is not easy especially if you are a student or a working person. But we have to find time, like saturday or any day evening, like that. And if one official is helpless, go and meet the next higher official. Not easy but very effective.

Also, the DGM in my area, hes young and he always help people, hes good technically too. I am the first one in my state (Kerala) to use the BSNL datacard (as per BSNL info). That is just because the DGM was equally interested in the working of the card. We installed it and tested it together and became more friendly. Thats is why I call him whenever I find things difficult. He always take action very fast. If he tell like - I will check it - I am sure action will be taken within hrs. I was just giving you an example, that there are nice officials also in BSNL.

Another thing about BSNL is, the lack of technical knowldge at lower level. Can't blame them coz not much training has been given to them. Also, they may be experts in the telephone things, but the computer, broadband etc are new to them and you know most old people will not change very fast. For younsters, they take it as a challenge and try to learn fast and help others.

My advice is go to the BSNL office, meet the SDE / JE / DGM or any higher official. Explain your case in detail. If they are not taking action, go again and finally you will sure make it.

Good luck, please keep us posted.

gary4gar
22-12-2007, 10:41 AM
@Ponmayilal

Regarding my case, still neither me nor the BSNL officials know what exactly the problem was !!!!

Anyway I think it is not because of any single reason, may be multiple things. Like they changed modem first but then it was near UPS. I kept modem away from UPS thinking there may be electrical interference, then there was internal wiring. Like that we tried everything one by one I / BSNL officials can think of. Finally totally new UG cable, totally new modem, new pair of cables etc solved it. I mean , I belive it is solved as BB is up for the last 54 hrs (which is a record and never happened for me before when I was using the black modem lol). I really hope it is all ok now !

Regarding BSNL, I really understand your frustation. I am not sure whether you know my story (most senior members here know that). I had a very big fight with BSNL officials regarding the delay in getting telephone connection. I complained from exchange level to Union Cabinet minister level (yes he also replied me !). Used Right to Information act, launched a website explaining my experiences with BSNL officials, sent a lot of complaints in registered post to many top officials, made hundreds of phone calls, sent a lot of emails. But that is all over now and I got BB finally. So I think I will tell you something from my experience. Do not call or send email / letter to officials much. That is of not much use. Instead go there and meet the officials. I know it is not easy especially if you are a student or a working person. But we have to find time, like saturday or any day evening, like that. And if one official is helpless, go and meet the next higher official. Not easy but very effective.

Also, the DGM in my area, hes young and he always help people, hes good technically too. I am the first one in my state (Kerala) to use the BSNL datacard (as per BSNL info). That is just because the DGM was equally interested in the working of the card. We installed it and tested it together and became more friendly. Thats is why I call him whenever I find things difficult. He always take action very fast. If he tell like - I will check it - I am sure action will be taken within hrs. I was just giving you an example, that there are nice officials also in BSNL.

Another thing about BSNL is, the lack of technical knowldge at lower level. Can't blame them coz not much training has been given to them. Also, they may be experts in the telephone things, but the computer, broadband etc are new to them and you know most old people will not change very fast. For younsters, they take it as a challenge and try to learn fast and help others.

My advice is go to the BSNL office, meet the SDE / JE / DGM or any higher official. Explain your case in detail. If they are not taking action, go again and finally you will sure make it.

Good luck, please keep us posted.
when you will leave your habit of typing soooooo long post??http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2227/2122606045_29dfcc7eaf_o.png
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Ponmayilal
22-12-2007, 11:24 AM
@din thanks for your really long post and taking your time for that :) .
By the time I entered this thread you were in the process of winding up your site. So I knew it only sketchily but that you had a long tiff.
I shall see how to deal with BSNL. IMO, meeting any BSNL official is not gonna help. They can and will only make me run around in circles and sing ringaa.. ringaa.... roses along with them:). BSNL here is an ocean. Cochin may be different.
BTW, what is your local SNR now? Is it stable or keeps varying over a long period?

din
22-12-2007, 11:49 AM
@Ponmayilal

My SNR is nearly the same. But net seems stable now. This is day 3 after the modem change and there were no downtime and it is a record in my case !! So as I mentioned before, I really hope it is ok now.

janitha
22-12-2007, 01:50 PM
@gary4gar
:eek: when you will leave your habit of quoting soooooo long post??

Jokes apart, I agree with Din. There are very helpful and efficient staff in BSNL also. When I took my BB about 2.5 years back, everything was quick. On the second day after applying and remitting the amounts the young and knowledgeable SDO came with equipments and everything was alright within half an hour. He suggested changing my OS from 98 to XP and I bought and installed it without delay. Since then there has been no major problem, other than once or twice when there was some issue in the exchange which was also resolved within 2-3 hours. Recently there are slow speeds occasionally, may be due all schools being provided with BB.

Also you may find it very difficult when you have to deal with the old staff of BSNL who know only about the telephone!

BTW I also have OFC upto 2 metres away from my PC.

gary4gar
22-12-2007, 02:24 PM
@gary4gar
:eek: when you will leave your habit of quoting soooooo long post??

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how dare youhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2267/2122604803_10327dbcf9_o.png
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ajaybc
25-12-2007, 07:59 PM
BSNL service is very poor.Recently they changed the password of all BB users without any notiication beforehand.They also changed the portal which gave us the usage info.After the password change I wasnt able to log in to net for 2 days.I thought it was network problem.When I called the local exchange they gave me another number and that person gave me another .......and atlast got the number of JTO who gave me instructions for changing the modem config.
After that it was OK.

Now the problem is that when I login to the all new portal they give me the usage in a new way.And the thing that bothers me is that there it is given amount in paise and as of now it is Rs.237.Iam a Dataone 500 plan user and i have 2.5 GB limit and Iam pretty sure I havent consumed even half of it as my computer monitor was repaired only last monday and after that I havent used much.When I called them they dont know anything and redirects me to another number then to another and so on.

If any one knows what the problem is please help me.

prakhar18
25-12-2007, 11:43 PM
which of these plans is better..

1. TriB Unlimited 256 K 256 256 Unlimited 949 NA 1 Nil
2.TriB 749NU Upto 2M 256 256 Unlimited in Night Hrs (00:00-8:00) & 1.25 GB in day (08:00-24:00) 1GB 749 NA 1 Rs 1.00/MB (day hrs)

Rockstar11
26-12-2007, 12:22 AM
^^ abey yeh bsnl ke liye thread hai :mad: :p lol

din
26-12-2007, 10:40 AM
OK, my connection seems to be OK now. Only problem I am facing is - Some of the sites does not work sometime. Example : Yahoo. Sometimes FTP client refuses to work and finally - sometimes MSN messenger does not work (I use Pidgin whenever MSN is not working and Pidgin works all the time).

Now the question is whats the best method to tackle this ? Using proxy ? Any other ideas ? Using Pidgin is ok, but I am used to msn messenger, so any other way ?

Thanks ain advance.

aravind.gslv
26-12-2007, 12:42 PM
If my modem is switched on for a very long time. I get disconnected.
Bsnl 2mbps plan.
Cann't host properly(Lags always).
And my torrent download speed won't exceed 150KBps even when i get 246KBps for normal downloads.
Why such difference?
Even if seeds are very high this happens.
Anyway to fix this ?

some asked me to open ports?
whts that supposed to mean!

why this page time out happenig to me?

ajaybc
26-12-2007, 01:03 PM
Hi aravind

U need to port forward to get the maximum speed in utorrent.
Please visit this site: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

Select your router model from the list shown there.Mine is UT Star UT300R2U.

It will then Take u to anothr page where u have to select the program for which u need to portforward.Select ur torrent client from the list shown there.
I use utorrent it is the best.Now it will give u simple step by step instructions to portforward.

And regarding the timing out of ur connection u need to change the modem settings.
I use UT300R2U modem and I assume u use the same.the steps are somewhat common for all modems.
For UT300R2U-

1.open a browser and type in 192.168.1.1 in the address bar and press enter.

2.Click on advanced>PPP

3.Select the option - "Manual (Use Connect/Disconnect button only)"

4.Click Apply.

5.Then click the top "Tools" button

6.Then click "Misc."

7.Then Click "Save and Reboot".

Wait for around 3minutes till the modem restarts.

And that is it.

aravind.gslv
26-12-2007, 03:43 PM
tnku very much for the reply..
i hav tried this now..
will post my experience later

Dishant
26-12-2007, 06:39 PM
hi guys. i hv dataone 900 ul plus plan but my download speed does not exceed by 35kbps.....pls help

Cyrus_the_virus
26-12-2007, 06:41 PM
hi guys. i hv dataone 900 ul plus plan but my download speed does not exceed by 35kbps.....pls help

Is that 35KBps or 35Kbps?

The Conqueror
26-12-2007, 06:50 PM
hi guys. i hv dataone 900 ul plus plan but my download speed does not exceed by 35kbps.....pls help
Yes, as it is 256 Kilo Bits Per second
256 KILO BITS PER SECOND = 256/8 Kilo Bytes
=32 kbps :grin:

Or you are saying that u are getting 32 Kilo bits per second :confused:

Cyrus_the_virus
26-12-2007, 06:56 PM
Yes, as it is 256 Kilo Bits Per second
256 KILO BITS PER SECOND = 256/8 Kilo Bytes
=32 kbps :grin:

Or you are saying that u are getting 32 Kilo bits per second :confused:

kbps is kilo bits
KBps is Kilo Bytes per second..

be careful to not mix up these values..

tharun518
27-12-2007, 07:04 AM
OK, my connection seems to be OK now. Only problem I am facing is - Some of the sites does not work sometime. Example : Yahoo. Sometimes FTP client refuses to work and finally - sometimes MSN messenger does not work (I use Pidgin whenever MSN is not working and Pidgin works all the time).

Now the question is whats the best method to tackle this ? Using proxy ? Any other ideas ? Using Pidgin is ok, but I am used to msn messenger, so any other way ?

Thanks ain advance.

Ya i have the same problem. Can't properly connect to reliancemoney.com. It is mostly found in between 10am to 11am.

Indranil92001
28-12-2007, 12:56 AM
About KBps and kbps

(KiloBits Per Second) One thousand bits per second. Kbps is used as a rating of relatively slow transmission speed compared to the common Mbps or Gbps ratings. Upper case "B" in KBps means kilobytes per second, but "b" for bit and "B" for byte are not always followed and often misprinted. KBps or KB/s would be used for earlier disk and tape transfer ratings as data are transferred in parallel, not serial.

ladykiller
28-12-2007, 11:51 PM
hey....... i hav BSNL dataone HOME250 plan....... but now..... i wanna change it to HOME500C... so i gave an application to them on 26th of December....... so my 1st question is that.. will they change my plan from 1st january....... i mean.. r they quick enough to do that????????

secondly...... how will i know that my plan has changed???????
presently i hav HOME250... bt the BSNL portal site shows plan "Download speed upto 2 Mbps"..... not anything else:confused:http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2763/capturemorecp1.jpg .. so wat does it means???? nd how to see which plan i got??

ladykiller
29-12-2007, 12:07 AM
BSNL service is very poor.Recently they changed the password of all BB users without any notiication beforehand.They also changed the portal which gave us the usage info.After the password change I wasnt able to log in to net for 2 days.I thought it was network problem.When I called the local exchange they gave me another number and that person gave me another .......and atlast got the number of JTO who gave me instructions for changing the modem config.
After that it was OK.

Now the problem is that when I login to the all new portal they give me the usage in a new way.And the thing that bothers me is that there it is given amount in paise and as of now it is Rs.237.Iam a Dataone 500 plan user and i have 2.5 GB limit and Iam pretty sure I havent consumed even half of it as my computer monitor was repaired only last monday and after that I havent used much.When I called them they dont know anything and redirects me to another number then to another and so on.

If any one knows what the problem is please help me.

hey... dont worry......... the usage u r getting that is.... Rs.237 is according to the rate of 80 paise per MB... or wateva.. be Acc. to ur plan..... thats the problem with the new portal..... it does n't that BSNL also provides free MBs:grin:

nd hey... in my town... every new connection is getting this type of changed portal......... old users still got that old... gud portal......8-)

ajaybc
29-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Thank you for th reply Ladykiller

After all u were the only one who replied to my post

shyamno
29-12-2007, 07:06 PM
Guys....BSNL have introduced this new site for checking account usage but I think this is only for the new users as one of my friends who recently got BB can login into the account whereas I can't...can you guys..plz confirm this site :

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/

janitha
29-12-2007, 07:22 PM
Guys....BSNL have introduced this new site for checking account usage but I think this is only for the new users as one of my friends who recently got BB can login into the account whereas I can't...can you guys..plz confirm this site :

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/

Unable.

shyamno
29-12-2007, 08:13 PM
Check out this link instead :

http://data.bsnl.in/

The Conqueror
29-12-2007, 08:20 PM
kbps is kilo bits
KBps is Kilo Bytes per second..

be careful to not mix up these values..
I think it is correct,
if u r confused :
256 kbps = 256 DIVIDE by 8 = 32 Kbps or kb/s :d

Cyrus_the_virus
29-12-2007, 08:27 PM
I think it is correct,
if u r confused :
256 kbps = 256 DIVIDE by 8 = 32 Kbps or kb/s :d

Dude, you're denoting it wrong in the first place... that's the problem....

It's 256Kbps = 32KBps and not Kbps. There is a difference between B and b

crazydevil
29-12-2007, 09:53 PM
from the link http://data.bsnl.in/ also it is not working

gary4gar
30-12-2007, 06:04 PM
anyone seeing any increase in speeds?

gagandeep
30-12-2007, 06:29 PM
^ abhi toh nahi par umeed hai ki 1st January se speed increase hogi

praka123
30-12-2007, 07:14 PM
@gauri:do u experience any increase in speed?here in Kochi,speed is low!may be due to connections been given to every exchanges including rural ones!

cool_techie_tvm
30-12-2007, 08:03 PM
Speeds will be increased, but not on Jan 1st as speculated by many. Now they are on the process of adding more connections.

janitha
30-12-2007, 08:31 PM
@gauri:do u experience any increase in speed?here in Kochi,speed is low!may be due to connections been given to every exchanges including rural ones!

Only decrease!

Ponmayilal
30-12-2007, 10:42 PM
At times I do get a good speed
http://www.speedtest.net/result/216826897.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
:)

ladykiller
30-12-2007, 10:49 PM
hey.. pls someone reply to my query also..... plsz plz................. its on the previous page...........:)

Cyrus_the_virus
30-12-2007, 11:01 PM
hey.. pls someone reply to my query also..... plsz plz................. its on the previous page...........:)


It will be calculated on a pro rate basis, which means the plan will be divided by 30 and then multiplied by the no. of days you used it.

So, one plan will be muliplied by 27(if the plan changed on the 27th) and the second plan will be multiplied by 3.. then both added.. hope you get the point.

Ponmayilal
30-12-2007, 11:02 PM
At times I do get a good speed

:)
But that's only part of the story.and at times it is this
1403

:(

praka123
30-12-2007, 11:03 PM
here in Kerala,dataone speed sucks!is that what new year is bringing to us?

cool_techie_tvm
31-12-2007, 12:50 AM
^^ Am facing no speed issues at present. Maybe a localized problem

praka123
31-12-2007, 12:54 AM
in mvpa,speed is low.i also see workers digging to install OFC's a furlong away.may be that is a reason for slow down :?
anyway my speeds are not on the upper side these days :(

aravind787
31-12-2007, 12:55 AM
Yes, as it is 256 Kilo Bits Per second
256 KILO BITS PER SECOND = 256/8 Kilo Bytes
=32 kbps :grin:

Or you are saying that u are getting 32 Kilo bits per second :confused:

Hey,if you got no brains..Dont ****in answer some **** and confuse people ok you better pass out of you hogwarts school and then start using internet ok...hairy ass potter..your 256KB/s(commenting on your 256/8 KiloBytes = 32 kbps)how can 256 Kilobytes per sec be divided by 8 and result in something like 32kbps kilo bits per sec:evil: ...get your elementary education properly..:mad:

praka123
31-12-2007, 01:03 AM
LOL!i noticed the post now only :D

gagandeep
31-12-2007, 01:05 AM
@aravind
You yourself wrote that you are not getting speeds more than 35kbps (KILOBITS per SECOND) on a Home 900 (256 KILOBITS per SECOND plan).

You should have written 35 KB/s (KILOBYTES per SECOND) which we can't get as we can at the most get 32 KB/s on Home 900 UL.

Look here:
8bits = 1byte
256kbps means 256 Kilobits per second
So, 256kbps = 256/8 KB per second (KB/s) = 32 KB/s.

You are youself confused and Harry Potter is correct.


You wrote 35kbps (Kilobits per second) which is damn slow even slower than 56.6 kbps DIALUP. And the speed which you get in 35kbps in KILOBYTES is 35/8 = 4.375 KB/s (Kilobytes per second)

praka123
31-12-2007, 01:08 AM
Yes, as it is 256 Kilo Bits Per second
256 KILO BITS PER SECOND = 256/8 Kilo Bytes
=32 kbps :grin:
what? :shock: how can someone derive 256kbps as 32kbps? and u ppl are thinking it is true :evil:
I hope harry meant 32KB/sec

gagandeep
31-12-2007, 01:16 AM
Harry isn't wrong. This guy aravind had posted that he is getting 35kbps on his 256kbps Home 900 UL connection. Aravind is himself wrong.

Now, let me come to the point------------------------------------------------
While I was posting the above post, I suddenly got disconnected and my Upstream SNR decreased from 31 dB to 12dB and the attainable upstream line rate from 1056 kbps to 364 kbps. And also the Downstream Line Attenuation increased from 36 to 46 and Upstream Line Attenuation from 20.5 to 31.5. I don't know why the signal loss (attenuation) has increased as it increases with the distance and I am at the same distance from the exchange.

Also the Downstream Output Power increased form 12.3 to 19.7 dBm. Output Power increases with the loops or the number of connections in and from the wire. So, as the Output Power increased, my Attainable Downstream Rate which was ready for 8mbps (It was 9120kbps) decreased to 5256kbps.

I think that Exchange Guys are tweaking with their instruments.

Ponmayilal
31-12-2007, 02:45 AM
^^Really strange how the upstream and downstream attenuations can change so drastically in the middle of the night.

gagandeep
31-12-2007, 02:49 AM
^ Not in the middle of night.......just in the middle of Browsing.......

suniltr77
31-12-2007, 07:31 AM
Can anyone describe the procedure for configuring the Dataone to be alwasys on. As on now I am usung connect everytime I want to be online. I want to onliline when my PC starts.

praka123
31-12-2007, 09:11 AM
you have to configure dataone connection from router(pppoe dialer) instead of bridge mode which u r using now.
http://calcuttatelephones.com have details for each CPE's.

The Incredible
31-12-2007, 11:27 AM
Please tell me how to view usage and e-mail. I'm a new user of BB by bsnl. I'm unable to view the logs and check my e-mail

gary4gar
31-12-2007, 03:24 PM
^^^^
goto to www.data.bsnl.in

Chirag
31-12-2007, 05:56 PM
Getting disconnected damn often.. Like after 5 mins everytime m getting dc.. I m on home ul 900. Anyone else facing this problem?

gagandeep
31-12-2007, 05:59 PM
I think that you are getting disconnected because of low SNR. Post your ADSL status please....

Chirag
31-12-2007, 11:12 PM
^^
Erm how?

gagandeep
31-12-2007, 11:23 PM
Open any web browser.....
then type
192.168.1.1 in the URL bar.......It will ask username or password
Username = admin
Password can be admin or password depending on your Modem company.
Then browser through and fine some thing called ADSL statiistics or status.

offtopic: You are 16. Its good that young boys are out there in this forum. BTW, I am 13.

Devrath_ND
01-01-2008, 12:10 AM
whats the diff b/w home500 and home500 combo

gagandeep
01-01-2008, 01:01 AM
whats the diff b/w home500 and home500 combo
There are 2 Home 500 combos. Home 500C and Home 500C+.

The following is when you are having the IndiaOne (180 rental with 50 free pulses) bFone plan. Rest plans may have varied equations. Your bill will be like the following (I hope you'll make out the difference between the plans):

Home 500 = Rs. 180(phone rental) + [Call Price - 50(free calls)] + 500(Broadband with 2.5GB limit and NU) + taxes
Home 500C = Rs. 0 (phone rental) + [Call Price - 175(free calls)] + 500(Broadband with 1.5GB limit and NU) + taxes
Home 500C+ = Rs. 0 (phone rental) + [Call Price - 50(free calls)] + 600(Broadband with 2.5GB limit and NU) + taxes

So, Home 500C+ is the best bet Home 500 with INDIAONE bFone plan and they users must switch from it as they'll end up saving Rs.80.

Note: Monthly Rental and Free calls can vary with the BSNL bFone plan you are using.

Devrath_ND
01-01-2008, 07:34 AM
There are 2 Home 500 combos. Home 500C and Home 500C+.

The following is when you are having the IndiaOne (180 rental with 50 free pulses) bFone plan. Rest plans may have varied equations. Your bill will be like the following (I hope you'll make out the difference between the plans):

Home 500 = Rs. 180(phone rental) + [Call Price - 50(free calls)] + 500(Broadband with 2.5GB limit and NU) + taxes
Home 500C = Rs. 0 (phone rental) + [Call Price - 175(free calls)] + 500(Broadband with 1.5GB limit and NU) + taxes
Home 500C+ = Rs. 0 (phone rental) + [Call Price - 50(free calls)] + 600(Broadband with 2.5GB limit and NU) + taxes

So, Home 500C+ is the best bet Home 500 with INDIAONE bFone plan and they users must switch from it as they'll end up saving Rs.80.

Note: Monthly Rental and Free calls can vary with the BSNL bFone plan you are using.

On my service order records on dataone usage website shows
"Home 500 Combo; downloadspeed upto 2Mbps"

Which one of the above is this

suniltr77
01-01-2008, 08:09 AM
you have to configure dataone connection from router(pppoe dialer) instead of bridge mode which u r using now.
http://calcuttatelephones.com have details for each CPE's.

I am not finding the link.Could you give the link.

janitha
01-01-2008, 09:14 AM
Unable to check mail either through OE or the main page of Dataone!

Chirag
01-01-2008, 12:07 PM
Item Downstream Upstream Unit
SNR Margin 17 22 dB
Line Attenuation 30 10 dB
Data Rate 2048 512 kbps

praka123
01-01-2008, 01:41 PM
@suniltr77 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=14135):
below is the modem configuration page:
http://www.calcutta.bsnl.co.in/dataoneinstall/menu.html

gagandeep
01-01-2008, 02:20 PM
On my service order records on dataone usage website shows
"Home 500 Combo; downloadspeed upto 2Mbps"

Which one of the above is this
Then its Home 500C. But you can surely verify from the exchange people... or Help Center.

suniltr77
01-01-2008, 02:43 PM
@suniltr77 (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=14135):
below is the modem configuration page:
http://www.calcutta.bsnl.co.in/dataoneinstall/menu.html

I don't find my modem SIEMENS C2110 in that page.

ramsingh
01-01-2008, 02:56 PM
i have got UT-300R2U modem for Dataone... i hav bought intex switch... plz tell me how 2 configur modem ,switch etc.. so that me + 3 other frnds can acces internet indepedntly...i hav seen d tu tutorial of choota cheeta ,, tried it but not working.. plz domeone help.. nd expalin in layman terms..

gagandeep
01-01-2008, 03:12 PM
i have got UT-300R2U modem for Dataone... i hav bought intex switch... plz tell me how 2 configur modem ,switch etc.. so that me + 3 other frnds can acces internet indepedntly...i hav seen d tu tutorial of choota cheeta ,, tried it but not working.. plz domeone help.. nd expalin in layman terms..
This may help you. Juts look at the manual method: http://www.calcuttatelephones.com/dataoneinstall/mu04.html

gary4gar
01-01-2008, 05:27 PM
Please give some more details, on what you did

also follow this diagram
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
bsnl Phone line ==> UT-300R2U modem ==> intex switch ==> Computers
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

prakhar18
01-01-2008, 06:12 PM
hey guys which is best plan to subscribe to...
i download heavly..more than 3 Gb per month...

gowtham
01-01-2008, 06:23 PM
@prakhar18
undoubtedly the home 500rs plan. go for it without any doubts. its the best in the market!! u can /dl 30-40gb very very easily per month!

gary4gar
01-01-2008, 06:36 PM
its upto to your budget, IMO get a Unlimited plan with no data caps

Rockstar11
02-01-2008, 01:21 AM
Hi, anybody know when is bsnl going to offer 8Mbps net.

thanx

praka123
02-01-2008, 01:22 AM
^No info and Id say rather dont expect much :(

gary4gar
02-01-2008, 10:16 AM
sad, no sign of 8mbps yet:(

janitha
02-01-2008, 04:56 PM
It seems there is no new year bonus from BSNL.

Indranil92001
03-01-2008, 01:13 AM
Why you people thinking that the BSNL launche 8Mbps service at the new year moment. This plan maybe will launch later for the general home user. Currently this 8Mbps service launched with Plan 2000,4000 and 15000 for Business purpose,you can fiend it when you logon to http://10.240.43.216/ and click on Service Records (http://10.240.43.216/myportal/myindex.jsp?key=1199320720343#) then see below, Select the service you want to query. Scroll it down and you can fiend this service. This is the only service officially launched by BSNL and they gives add for it in some News Paper. But this service in not launched in all state of India. If you want to know that your state have this service or not, just log on to your ADSL and see what speed its showing, if it showing 8000 kbps down then you have 8MBps service and then you can apply for this Plan ( this plan is not for home user ). I dont know where from you people get this news that BSNL will launch 8Mbps in new year for the home user. Anyway but I am sure it will launch but dont know when.

praka123
03-01-2008, 01:17 AM
the difference can be seen!when Dayanidhi Maran was there as I&B Minister,we are gifted with dataone with better plans!now as usual we expected and now the new minister is a oldie Priyranjan Das Munshi!WTH will he care for computers or bsnl!heh!he is busy with so many things na :rolleyes:

Chirag
03-01-2008, 01:24 AM
My experience:

( I go to BSNL enquiry section.. )

ME: Uncle, EVDO ke baare mein pata karna tha.
HIM: (Confused) Ye EVDO kya hota hain??
ME: Woh Data-card..
HIM: (Still Confused) Achar upar 3rd floor mein jake pucho.

(3rd Floor - Posh Office)

ME: Uncle EVDO ke baare mein pata karna tha..
HIM: Ab ye kya cheez hoti hain?
ME: Erm Datacard/Wireless Internet
HIM: Acha datacard.. Nahi ab tak launch nahi hua.. 3-4 months baad hoga
ME: Acha (going towards the exit)
HIM: Usko datacard bolte hain, evdo jaisa kuch nahi hota.. datacard hi bolte hain..
ME: Acha uncle.. ( I gave a smile and left)

praka123
03-01-2008, 01:28 AM
^WTF! :confused: EVDO is available in remote exchanges too!you have to talk to the right man!

Chirag
03-01-2008, 01:34 AM
Well I did.. Talked to like 3 guys.. Same answer.. Will go to another office tomo..

gulgulumaal
04-01-2008, 11:30 PM
Hey...what speed r u guys getting?. I switched over from Asianet to BSNL Home 500 plan and I have to say the speed is amaaaaazing!!...to say the least.

I'm getting consistently around 95 KB/s download speed, and I'm able to stream 700kbps videos directly from the net. Youtube videos play directly without any delays. It's waaay above what I cud do with my 256kbps connection!!..I'm totally impressed.

BTW this home 500 plan includes night time 2AM - 8AM free, but nothing's mentioned about Sundays. Is the usage free on Sundays and National holidays?

gagandeep
04-01-2008, 11:46 PM
BTW this home 500 plan includes night time 2AM - 8AM free, but nothing's mentioned about Sundays. Is the usage free on Sundays and National holidays?
No, its not free but if it becomes free my computer will not be on a holiday that day.....:D;).
And basically its upto 2mbps you can get any speed between 32KB/s to 256KB/s.

din
04-01-2008, 11:50 PM
Offtopic .. Please forgive me

@Chirag

The lower level (exchange / commercial office) may not know anything about data card or EVDO. Can't blame em much as no proper information or training has been given to them. Only some official notification and no details at all.

Try to get in touch with DGM in your area. If possible meet him / her directly and discuss it with them. They may be able to help you.

Rockstar11
05-01-2008, 03:58 AM
Hey...what speed r u guys getting?. I switched over from Asianet to BSNL Home 500 plan and I have to say the speed is amaaaaazing!!...to say the least.

I'm getting consistently around 95 KB/s download speed, and I'm able to stream 700kbps videos directly from the net. Youtube videos play directly without any delays. It's waaay above what I cud do with my 256kbps connection!!..I'm totally impressed.

BTW this home 500 plan includes night time 2AM - 8AM free, but nothing's mentioned about Sundays. Is the usage free on Sundays and National holidays?


I'm getting consistently around 230/240 kbps DL speed with IDM http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/12a.gif
Dataone 2Mbps plan Home 1000 :)

gulgulumaal
05-01-2008, 06:01 AM
I'm getting consistently around 230/240 kbps DL speed with IDM http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/12a.gif
Dataone 2Mbps plan Home 1000 :)


Is that kilobits per second?. Today morning I was getting around consistent 115 KB/s which is like 920 kbps :eek: download!!

Rockstar11
05-01-2008, 06:29 AM
Is that kilobits per second?. Today morning I was getting around consistent 115 KB/s which is like 920 kbps :eek: download!!

:eek: 230/240 KB/s http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/26.gif

gulgulumaal
05-01-2008, 07:06 AM
WOW

The Incredible
05-01-2008, 08:17 PM
Plz sum1 tell me how to view bandwidth usage other details. I'm new to it.

s18000rpm
06-01-2008, 09:54 PM
has the dial-up speed has gone up?

a week ago i used to get max of 20Kbps, but now whenevr i connect, i get 40+Kbps :))

praka123
07-01-2008, 02:05 AM
^...in a 56K modem?that too 40KBps?may i call u a lier :D

Rockstar11
07-01-2008, 03:20 AM
Plz sum1 tell me how to view bandwidth usage other details. I'm new to it.

http://10.240.224.195/webLogin.jsp

Cyrus_the_virus
07-01-2008, 01:22 PM
^...in a 56K modem?that too 40KBps?may i call u a lier :D

I think he said 40Kbps and not KBps. Maybe his line is rid of noise now.. so he's getting a good speed on dial up. The fastest I've ever seen on dialup is 49Kbps.

s18000rpm
07-01-2008, 02:14 PM
^...in a 56K modem?that too 40KBps?may i call u a lier :D
Kbps man

rit now waiting for those BSNL noobs to come & install the BB today:D

gagandeep
07-01-2008, 04:04 PM
Whenever I connect to NetOne dial-up (when I eat up my Broadband Bandwidth Limit), I always get 41kbps ++.

ramsingh
07-01-2008, 04:48 PM
i am unable 2 view my dataone usage... i hav tried http://data.bsnl.in/ as well as http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/ .. but cant open it.. .Server not found... gt connectn 10 days ago... still dont know my usage... plz hellp

rajprit007
08-01-2008, 12:53 PM
hey
Can anyone tell me
Do u get 2mbps on 900 unlimited plan

and the site to check bsnl's usage is data.bsnl.in
Just view it directly using the adsl modem nd no additional router in between
When the page click on The hyperlink saying Bsnl dataone customers click here (in red)
Just get ur portal id frm the bsnl guys

s18000rpm
08-01-2008, 04:02 PM
hey
Can anyone tell me
Do u get 2mbps on 900 unlimited planNo. only 256kbps (32KBps) max.

--------------

guys, just got the modem (for Broadband:D)

modem- UT Star - UT300R2U

can someone tell me how to configure it? :oops:

what values i've to put in these boxes?
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/data1_1.JPG (http://s2.supload.com/free/data1_1.JPG/view/)

If i leave them at default, i get this error.
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/data1_2.JPG (http://s2.supload.com/free/data1_2.JPG/view/)


btw is this correct
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/data1.JPG (http://s2.supload.com/free/data1.JPG/view/)

gary4gar
08-01-2008, 04:19 PM
No. only 256kbps (32KBps) max.

--------------

guys, just got the modem (for Broadband:D)

modem- UT Star - UT300R2U

can someone tell me how to configure it? :oops:

what values i've to put in these boxes?
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/data1_1.JPG (http://s2.supload.com/free/data1_1.JPG/view/)

If i leave them at default, i get this error.
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/data1_2.JPG (http://s2.supload.com/free/data1_2.JPG/view/)


btw is this correct
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/data1.JPG (http://s2.supload.com/free/data1.JPG/view/)
there is exesting connection first change its VCI/VPI values to something other than 0/35, then you can create a new connection;)

rest all values are correct:)

why did you specify the DNS address?, let these come from your ISP directly or else use open dns:)

s18000rpm
08-01-2008, 04:51 PM
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/untitled-20080108051758.jpg (http://s2.supload.com/free/untitled-20080108051758.jpg/view/)
is this correct? :D

right now, i've connected thru the DataOne.

i've applied for Home 500 plan, i'm getting very low speed:( (max 30KBps) & i'm not able to login to see "Usage status".

i get this error.
[ Login failed. Please enter a valid user ID and password. ]

gary4gar
08-01-2008, 05:33 PM
you have to use 0/35 as VPI/VCI values:)

s18000rpm
08-01-2008, 05:42 PM
now geting around 60+KBps :))

as u suggested for "open dns", the speed has increased, but i'm not able to upload any pic. (in imageshack/supload). [tried closing KAV too]

you have to use 0/35 as VPI/VCI values:)

didnt get u.

i changed it again, & it shows the same error.

NIGHTMARE
08-01-2008, 05:50 PM
use automatic ip obtain and make a bridge connection and problem still so go to the ur BB office and talk to chief engg. i am also facing the problem but now i download minimum 3.5GB to 5.5GB

PraKs
08-01-2008, 07:35 PM
Anyone in Bangalore - NEW CONNECTION ??

None of this works to check the usage.

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/
http://data.bsnl.in/wps/portal
http://dataone.in/
http://10.240.89.199/
http://10.240.43.216/
http://10.240.128.195/
http://10.240.16.195
http://10.240.144.195
http://10.240.224.195/webLogin.jsp

Now what 2 do ??

kunal_vkr
08-01-2008, 11:38 PM
hi,guys Could anyone tell me how to check dataone account type in bsnl portal??..

as far as checking usage is concerned call 1957 or bsnl costumer care ask them to give your portal id and password..it's a unique 14 digit id..then go to http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/ enter id and password..you will get your usage..

apacheman
09-01-2008, 03:26 AM
which is the best package in bsnl?

s18000rpm
09-01-2008, 07:18 PM
i still cant upload a pic or a small 16KB file:x

****#@@$**!@%@**@$#@$# BSNL #$%&&%#

rajeevpuri
09-01-2008, 08:06 PM
Hi,
I'm a new subscriber to BSNL 500 C plan. While checking usage from

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/

It shows me more of upload than download. Does this happen to all users or its some problem on my end.


Thanks in advance..
Rajeev.

Rockstar11
09-01-2008, 08:37 PM
which is the best package in bsnl?

BSNL home 500 and home1000
2mbps speed net.

Arsenal_Gunners
09-01-2008, 10:55 PM
He told me to post this as he can't reply for some reason:))

how much speed are you guys, on Home 500 plan, getting?

=>i get max. of 70KBps :x on http links (like rapidshare),
=>Limewire doesnt get connected (even when AV & firewall is off) :x
=>cant login to portal to check usage:x
=>unable to upload anything:x (not even a 1KB file)

what can be the problem.

i tried tcpip.sys thing, but un-installed it as rapidshare speed went to 20KBps & no other gains either.

i reverted back to default dns from "Open DNS".

-----
the "obtain DNS server automatically" button is faded out (cant selcet).
[i'll uploasd the pic frm dial-up in 20mins]

s18000rpm
09-01-2008, 11:44 PM
^thanks man:D

anyone tell me whats going on.

can someone on home 500 plan using UT300R2U ADSL2+ model, tell me the settings.

sabret00the
10-01-2008, 12:46 AM
Please help if you guys can regarding the following problem:
Can't access Google, gmail , orkut or any other Google sites using Dataone!!! (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77869)

praka123
10-01-2008, 12:52 AM
^done.BTW,I am getting slow speeds and my SNR in day time is as low as 23 :( which earlier was around 26dB.also the speed is very low(like 100KBps) or low sometimes in daytime :cry: while in night the speeds shoots upto 217KB/Sec;also SNR became 26dB!WTF?any kerala dataone users faces same?

zyberboy
10-01-2008, 01:01 AM
yea, me facing the same problem...some days

praka123
10-01-2008, 01:10 AM
near to my area there is new OFC's laid on;works are going!hopefully the problem will be fixed later :-| bsnl are giving dataone connection to every sarkar school in kerala even in remote high ranges(malanad) .I hope they will introduce new core servers for this,else we can expect slow speeds :(

also,i am failing to get a replacement modem for my old huawei mt880 :( bsnl ppl are saying they are busy with upgrading the firmware of the new siemens modems for 2nd series of dataone connection(NIB-II).

sabret00the
10-01-2008, 01:22 AM
@ praka123 & zyberboy : Thanks a lot guys...used Opendns...think its working...but lets see for how long

NIGHTMARE
10-01-2008, 01:51 AM
guys i have 2 connection (reliance & bsnl) can i run both at same time and getting double speed

Cyrus_the_virus
10-01-2008, 01:58 AM
guys i have 2 connection (reliance & bsnl) can i run both at same time and getting double speed

Technically possible, but practically almost impossible unless you got the money to buy a load balancer

NIGHTMARE
10-01-2008, 02:24 AM
so i run only one connection at time

janitha
10-01-2008, 07:26 AM
^done.BTW,I am getting slow speeds and my SNR in day time is as low as 23 :( which earlier was around 26dB.also the speed is very low(like 100KBps) or low sometimes in daytime :cry: while in night the speeds shoots upto 217KB/Sec;also SNR became 26dB!WTF?any kerala dataone users faces same?

Recently (last 1-2 months) I have been getting getting slow speed intermittently, especially during day time and I had posted about it here.

s18000rpm
10-01-2008, 08:58 AM
c'mon guys, help me on this http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=715432&postcount=2866

Harvik780
10-01-2008, 04:39 PM
Ok a guy named pinku came to my house to check the internet connection.
My brother's net connection is on a new server which was down for 25 days.The guy said that they check the server every morning.Ok the guy found out that the server was down.What checking is done of the server...leme guess...is the calculator working or not.
I asked him a few questions and he gave me the numbers to the local NIB branch.
He has also confirmed that there are no near plans for 8MBPS at a reasonable rate.

s18000rpm
10-01-2008, 07:18 PM
=>i get max. of 70KBps on http links (like rapidshare),
=>Limewire doesnt get connected (even when AV & firewall is off)
=>cant login to portal to check usage
=>unable to upload anything (not even a 1KB file)

1st problem over, now i\'m d/lin at 220KBps :))

but other problems remain:(

OMG!!!

i was not able to post anything. now tried thru proxy & i\'m able to post thru.

so any ideas guys?

is it a server side problem? (the \"not able to upload...\")

=>i get max. of 70KBps on http links (like rapidshare),
=>Limewire doesnt get connected (even when AV & firewall is off)
=>cant login to portal to check usage
=>unable to upload anything (not even a 1KB file)

1st problem over, now i\'m d/lin at 220KBps :))

but other problems remain:(

OMG!!!

i was not able to post anything. now tried thru proxy & i\'m able to post thru.

so any ideas guys?

is it a server side problem? (the \"not able to upload...\")

OMG!!!

i was not able to post anything. now tried thru proxy & i\'m able to post thru.

so any ideas guys?

is it a server side problem? (the \"not able to upload...\")

----------------------
WTF!!!

i posted only once (at 7pm or so), i dunno whats happening.

bhunnu16
10-01-2008, 07:30 PM
Hi!
I have a datone 500 plan always on connection with night unlimted(2- 8am).Right now i am getting a speed of 200Kbps :). Every night I wake up at 2am :( and queue the downloads. So is there any way to auto disconnect & connect the modem at 2am and start the downloads(torrents).

sagargv
10-01-2008, 08:32 PM
^ use auto power on power off. .

i have a strange problem. . .i am on ul900 . . after 4-5 hrs of downloading , in utorrent , the tracker status says " a operation on a socket could not be performed because the buffer space was full " . at this time , i cant open any website , i get " this page cannot be displayed error " . .if i close utorrent , web pages open . .. but on re-opening utorrent , it doesnt download . . i have to restart pc.. wat shall i do ?

Indranil92001
10-01-2008, 10:40 PM
^ use auto power on power off. .

i have a strange problem. . .i am on ul900 . . after 4-5 hrs of downloading , in utorrent , the tracker status says " a operation on a socket could not be performed because the buffer space was full " . at this time , i cant open any website , i get " this page cannot be displayed error " . .if i close utorrent , web pages open . .. but on re-opening utorrent , it doesnt download . . i have to restart pc.. wat shall i do ?

Reinstall your operating system, or try with azureus

sagargv
10-01-2008, 10:43 PM
alternative ?

praka123
10-01-2008, 10:47 PM
^I doubt if ur having a 3rd party firewall like zonelam or comodo etc?if it is true,try uninstalling those firewall's and see!.the problem seems to be some scripts closing ur ports :( (sry not much idea about window$)

Indranil92001
10-01-2008, 10:48 PM
@sagargv (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/member.php?u=8058) I dont have any problem with Utorrent in my operating system. I use utorrent 1.7.5. If you get problem with utorrent then try with azureus.
Maybe your operating system need to reinstall again.

bhunnu16
11-01-2008, 12:01 AM
Don't know whether this is a repost... Are bsnl meters automatically stop between 2am -8am even if I start the download before 2 and stop after 8am.
My usage shows the data transfer between the happy hours so i am worried about the bill.
Also which torrent client can be used for configure it to auto download at a particular time.( If possible plzz post the link for getting the settings to configure the clients).

sagardani
11-01-2008, 02:03 PM
I've Home500 connection through parallel telephone line in my bedroom. I've plugged in ADSL cable and my phone cable on a splitter (i don't know what its called exactly) in 2 different sockets. I've got splitter bundled with router but I don't use it as I already have fixed one. You can see it in the attached photo. The brown cable is of my landline instrument and white one goes to my ADSL router.
But......... When phone rings, internet gets disconnected. When the receiver is picked up, the ADSL light on router starts blinking and disconnects. It again lights properly after few secs and connection starts. And when receiver is kept down, same happens.

Why is this so?? IS anything wrong in my parallel line? (see the attachment) WHats the solution for this?????

gary4gar
11-01-2008, 02:16 PM
^^^^
this not the perfect way to arrange thing,
IMHO,
To Phone line wiring==>Instrument
/
/
Phone line==>splitter==>
\
\
Router==>LAN==>PC

sagargv
11-01-2008, 09:11 PM
i dont have any 3rd party firewall

Harvik780
11-01-2008, 09:35 PM
My brother has decided to disconnect his BSNL connection after BSNL failed to correct the server downtime for over 1 month.
He's going for sify 256Kbps unlimited.

nvidia
12-01-2008, 12:27 PM
hi guys,
will BSNL check my usage at the end of the month or by 15th of every month?:confused:

bijucool
14-01-2008, 09:48 AM
Hi all,

I have been having frequent disconnects-reconnects with my BSNL BB connection.

Parameters as below:

Link Speed
Upstream : 508 Kbps
Downstream : 8187 - 8191 Kbps
S/NR
Upstream: 1.1 dB - 2.1 dB (is this the problem?)
Downstream: 13 dB - 18 dB
Attenuation
Upstream: 15.5 dB
Downstream: 37.5 dB

Sometimes it takes ages to reconnect. Logs contain repeated "PPP triggered start" messages.

The JE/JTO does not consider the SNR to be a problem. Will try to convince her. Meanwhile, cos I have concealed wiring BSNL tends to blame it on that. I am getting it changed to a direct line. Either my problem will get fixed or I will have better leverage with BSNL.

Meanwhile any inputs from fellow boarders on what I can check or do?

Thanks in advance,
Bijesh

jamesbond007
14-01-2008, 08:13 PM
I got my BSNL BB connection on Jan 5 th and till now I have not been able to check my usage stats. I 've logged on to www.data.bsnl.in, I click on a red link for broad band customer, I enter my portal id and pass. When I click on any of the options billed, unbilled , detailed and consolidated all I get it ' No usage records found'
I am on H250 plan. BTW how to identify our plan coz I've applied for converting to H500 plan.

praka123
15-01-2008, 08:06 PM
I replaced old Huawei MT880 modem for UTSTARCOM UT300R2U and i am looking for any update for firmware ?someone help?

lavan_joy
16-01-2008, 01:49 PM
I got my BSNL BB connection on Jan 5 th and till now I have not been able to check my usage stats. I 've logged on to www.data.bsnl.in, I click on a red link for broad band customer, I enter my portal id and pass. When I click on any of the options billed, unbilled , detailed and consolidated all I get it ' No usage records found'
I am on H250 plan. BTW how to identify our plan coz I've applied for converting to H500 plan.

Go to http://dataone.in and click check account usage

axxo
16-01-2008, 08:12 PM
does changing my smartax mT800 modem will do any good to the speed?

din
16-01-2008, 08:46 PM
@praka123

I do not know the technical reason, but my UTSTARCOM modem worked far better than Siemens. So from my experience, it will work perfect for you. Updates are mandatory ? Or you are experimenting ?

@sagardani
Never give connection like that. Gary is right, you should connect as in the figure he gave.

@jamesbond007
When I got my conn, I couldn't check usage for first few days. Not sure why, but may be a temp problem for new users ?

@bijucool
I think the SNR is very low in your case and that may affect your connection. But check with experts here. Also, did you check the connections, like whether there is any joint, anything wrong with line etc ?

praka123
16-01-2008, 09:38 PM
^Yes.UTSTARCOM is kinda OK for me,yeah i replaced my huawei mt880 modem which served me 2 years fine for the UTSTARCOM one for USB option/experimenting.also MT880 is available in UK and all,but just the badge,all chips are replaced.I am looking forward with UT300R2U for support and latest firmware(though this modem show line attn as 47dB :shock: ,although speeds are better than Huawei getting 225KB/s @ night) :p

Rockstar11
18-01-2008, 11:46 AM
January is coming to an end! Where the hell are the 8Mbps plans and 2Mbps unlimited plans ??? :mad::mad: :(:(

drgrudge
18-01-2008, 12:27 PM
I'm getting little impatient and frustrated. For Rs 1k I get this paltry 256k and 64k d/l & u/p speeds. IMO the minimum should be 512k.

Still waiting for a decent connection at a resonable amount.

gary4gar
18-01-2008, 01:14 PM
I'm getting little impatient and frustrated. For Rs 1k I get this paltry 256k and 64k d/l & u/p speeds. IMO the minimum should be 512k.

Still waiting for a decent connection at a resonable amount.
At present Home 500 is the best VFM plan

i think the speeds should increase in march/April only, as holi is comming.

drgrudge
18-01-2008, 01:21 PM
This is never ending cycle. First Diwali, nothing happens. Then Pongal, again nothing happens. Holi comes and goes without any cheer. At last Independence Day, yet no new plans. As wait patiently the year also goes by and we're back at square one.

gary4gar
18-01-2008, 01:28 PM
This is never ending cycle. First Diwali, nothing happens. Then Pongal, again nothing happens. Holi comes and goes without any cheer. At last Independence Day, yet no new plans. As wait patiently the year also goes by and we're back at square one.
you seemed pissed off:p

cheer up man!
atleast we all have a faster Home internet connection than most of INDIA;)
things do change, but in India they change slowly:(

I still miss, our previous Tel co minister Mr maran.

drgrudge
18-01-2008, 01:35 PM
^^
Yeah, so much to download, so little bandwidth. :p

Maran was prolly the best Minister I've seen for a long time. These suckers won't do good job nor let others do.

Stalker
18-01-2008, 02:16 PM
I just went to www.dataone.in (http://www.dataone.in) & clicked on Check my account Usage. It directed me to http://data.bsnl.in/wps/portal as usual. But IE is reporting it as a phishing website:confused:

Can anyone else confirm this?

din
18-01-2008, 03:08 PM
@Stalker

Checked at

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/ ?

When we check http://data.bsnl.in/wps/portal , I see a red link to the above site. And it works for me.

Harvik780
18-01-2008, 03:51 PM
Congrats to stalker on his newly installed BroadBand connection.

gary4gar
18-01-2008, 04:12 PM
I just went to www.dataone.in (http://www.dataone.in) & clicked on Check my account Usage. It directed me to http://data.bsnl.in/wps/portal as usual. But IE is reporting it as a phishing website:confused:

Can anyone else confirm this?
forget Internet Explorer & Use firefox :D

Stalker
18-01-2008, 05:12 PM
@din
Thanks , problem solved. I dunno why IE reports it as a phishing website :razz:

@Harvik780
Thanks :D

@Gary4gar
I do use Firefox, dunno why i opened that link in IE :))

din
18-01-2008, 08:25 PM
Another thing

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal

I can check usage there, but where is the place where I used to see my bill plan and all other details ? Coouldn't see it anymore :( The above link gives only usage details and nothing else.

Unbounded Bond
19-01-2008, 07:26 PM
i have bsnl home plan 250 at my hoome, how cd i know abt dataone usage..i tried doing many things as mentioned in some threads but no successs. Hope u cd help.

lavi87
19-01-2008, 08:45 PM
friends the bsnl S.D.O is not ready to change my plan to 500combo
he says that as i have been migrated to new 117.xx.xx.xx ip . so i cant
change my plan for 3 months. is it in your area too.:mad:

i think i have got only 1 option left to disconnect my broadband plan and then apply again as new connection and new plan

din
21-01-2008, 04:37 PM
@lavi87

Make sure you will get broadband after you close it. Else it will not be fun !

axxo
26-01-2008, 02:00 PM
I'm getting little impatient and frustrated. For Rs 1k I get this paltry 256k and 64k d/l & u/p speeds. IMO the minimum should be 512k.

Still waiting for a decent connection at a resonable amount.

es am paying more than what 2MBPS connection users but still getting only 256kbps ,,it should be atleast 512kbps unlimited for 900 plans or atleast night unlimited 2MBps for all 900UL users..

Cerebral Assasin
26-01-2008, 06:41 PM
I am using connect broadband. Its 990 Unlimited plan, according to connect my minimum speed is 80 kbps and maximum speed is 256kbps. I download a lot of data everyday but i am not satisfied with the actual download speed.

Speedtest.net says that my download speed is 297 kb/s and upload speed is 72 kb/s.

But whenever i download something using Internet download manager, maximum speed which i get is 24 kbps. Now i am confused of these calculations of bits and bytes (1byte=8bits)

I am planning to shift to dataone's home 500 plan. What is the actual upload and download speed of this plan.

Cyrus_the_virus
26-01-2008, 07:05 PM
I am using connect broadband. Its 990 Unlimited plan, according to connect my minimum speed is 80 kbps and maximum speed is 256kbps. I download a lot of data everyday but i am not satisfied with the actual download speed.

Speedtest.net says that my download speed is 297 kb/s and upload speed is 72 kb/s.

But whenever i download something using Internet download manager, maximum speed which i get is 24 kbps. Now i am confused of these calculations of bits and bytes (1byte=8bits)

I am planning to shift to dataone's home 500 plan. What is the actual upload and download speed of this plan.

How many times will people confuse themselves with this?????

KBps = Kilo Bytes per second
kbps = Kilo Bits per second

When you write, please denote them with the correct types. Do not denote Kilo Bytes per second as kbps, if you do, then you're confusing yourself.

Your download manager gives you Kilo Bytes 24KBps=24x8=192Kbps.
It doesn't always mean that your download manager is going to give you the highest speed on the line, it will only give you the highest speed from the server it's downloading within a maximum limit of your line. So, if the server you're downloading has a maximum lesser than your line maximum, it doesn't mean your line is not performing. If your speed test show that you get 297Kbps, then moving to some other provided would sound foolish, because, it's already giving you more that what was promised. Rest is up to you to use your own judgement.

Cerebral Assasin
26-01-2008, 07:25 PM
How many times will people confuse themselves with this?????

KBps = Kilo Bytes per second
kbps = Kilo Bits per second

When you write, please denote them with the correct types. Do not denote Kilo Bytes per second as kbps, if you do, then you're confusing yourself.

Your download manager gives you Kilo Bytes 24KBps=24x8=192Kbps.
It doesn't always mean that your download manager is going to give you the highest speed on the line, it will only give you the highest speed from the server it's downloading within a maximum limit of your line. So, if the server you're downloading has a maximum lesser than your line maximum, it doesn't mean your line is not performing. If your speed test show that you get 297Kbps, then moving to some other provided would sound foolish, because, it's already giving you more that what was promised. Rest is up to you to use your own judgement.


Thanks for clearing it out, but i know all about bits and bytes. The thing is i am not satisfied with this speed. Also its quite costly, i pay 1091 Rs for it. I think dataone's plans are better. You didn't answer my real question, my question was, what is the actual speed of dataone's home 500 plan, is it better than my current plan or not?

Ponmayilal
26-01-2008, 07:57 PM
Your connect 990 plan specifies a maximum bandwidth as upto 256 Kbps. That is 32KBps.You should be happy if you get speeds higher than this.As per TRAI definition , this cannot be called as Broadband. It is only high speed internet.
As regards BSNL home 500 plan,the specified bandwidth is 256Kbps but can go upto 2Mbps depending upon your distance from the exchange and line parameters.

Just as an example my speed is mostly around 1.7 Mbps.

The BSNL home 500 plan will definitely be better than your current service, but be aware your max. free usage per month is capped at 2.5GB above which you will pay 80p per MB.(usage from 0200hrs to 0800hrs is however not counted)

Usually the best practice to determine your line's capability, will be to conduct the speed test from a local server.If you are using speedtest.net, choose the Mumbai server.

As Cyrus has pointed out your actual download speeds , will depend upon various other factors not really under your control.If your pipeline is capable of carrying more data than a single connect to a distant server can give, then you can usually increase the speeds for large files using a download accelerator which establishes more connections to the server to extract more juice.

Cerebral Assasin
26-01-2008, 08:42 PM
Thanks for the info, 1.7 Mbps is a good speed, my house is not far from the exchange, so there shouldn't be any problem. I will definitely download large files before 8 am. Yes i used Mumbai server for the test cause it was the nearest. I don't trust servers from Pakistan. I use Internet download manager as its the best out there and i use 16 connections per download. I have tweaked it to give the best performance.

I hope BSNL won't dissappoint me.

Indranil92001
27-01-2008, 12:11 AM
Is there have 990 Plan, I hard only 900 Plan for Unlimited Using

Ponmayilal
27-01-2008, 06:15 PM
boo.........................:D Connect 990 plan is that of HFCL (Himachal Futuristics Communication Ltd) in Punjab.

prafull
27-01-2008, 10:37 PM
Hi guys, I just got plan 500 (NU) and using huawei wa1003a modem.

My dsl speeds show 512/1024kbps.That means I am capped at 1 mbps intead of usual 2 mbps. How to increase the speed ? Where to complain about it ? 1800-424-1600 doesnt seem to work here in gwalior and ppl at 1500 have no clue about it.

Any help will be highly appreciated.

Ponmayilal
27-01-2008, 10:46 PM
Can you please post the complete line statistics from your modem?

prafull
28-01-2008, 02:08 AM
Here it is:-

icehot
28-01-2008, 12:46 PM
I have been given portal id recently and I am finding it difficult to check my usage as this site is not opening most of the times

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/

I tried more than 25 times yesterday and only once this site opened.
Does others face this problem?

gary4gar
28-01-2008, 01:16 PM
Hi guys, I just got plan 500 (NU) and using huawei wa1003a modem.

My dsl speeds show 512/1024kbps.That means I am capped at 1 mbps intead of usual 2 mbps. How to increase the speed ? Where to complain about it ? 1800-424-1600 doesnt seem to work here in gwalior and ppl at 1500 have no clue about it.

Any help will be highly appreciated.
contact DE in your local exchange.
maybe your are far away from exchange, so they have capped speeds so the connection is more stable

Ponmayilal
28-01-2008, 02:06 PM
yep @prafull, what gary4gar has stated is quite a possibility.That is exactly why I had asked you to post your line statistics.What you had posted is not the line statistics.
The line parameter that counts in assessing the maximum possible speed is downstream line attenuation.If you let us know this figure then we can guestimate it and say whether BSNL has deliberately capped your line at 1024Kbps.So please post the line attenuation and SNR (noise margin) figures.(both downstream and upstream)

If your downstream line attenuation suggests that your line is capable of higher speeds, then you should contact BSNL and ask them to set your speed @2048Kbps in the DSLAM.

ajin115
28-01-2008, 05:18 PM
Hi friends,

After waiting 6 months i got Dataone, it works fine but the main problem is uploading files on my server. I cant upload, rename, edit or any operation with this connection on my server, but if i connect with tata it works fine from same computer. it also giving me problem in yahoo mail to delete mails, registering on sites unable to register. is there any setting in modem? which is not allowing me to do these things? even when i tried to submit this post unable with dataone.

sagargv
28-01-2008, 06:41 PM
try changing dns server to openDNS

208.67.220.220
208.67.222.222

din
30-01-2008, 12:03 AM
OK, finally paid the first bill of Dataone !

Didn't know today is the last day to pay bill. I used to get the printed bill correctly till last cycle, but this time I didn't get bill. I thought it is something with the broadband connection, as it is the first bill after Dataone is activated. Anyway called the exchange, and they gave me another number in exchange to check my bill details. When I called them, they said I can pay bill but to know the amount, come there directly ! I mean no details over phone. Not a surprise anyway.

I had no clue how much it will be, anyway went there and they told me amount is Rs.4023 ! As theres an ATM near BSNL office, I could manage it. Mine is home unlimited 256 (home ul plus). They had no clue on the detailed bill.

Anyway I guess its one month bill (900 + tax) plus one month advance (900 +tax), modem (Rs.1200) plus installation charge + activation etc. Is that correct ?

Another thing, the data usage portal. I remember I could logn and get all details like my plan, my data usage etc etc before. But the new data checking link has no other info than data usage volume and change password option. Nothing about bill plan, no profile, no address. No idea where it went. I am talking about these links

http://data.bsnl.in

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal

Or not much details are available for new dataone users ?

praka123
30-01-2008, 02:22 PM
^@din:how is the dataone speed there?

For me,today speed is VERY LOW! :evil: I just called the JE and he promised he will look the matter.

I hope dth/satellite based internet lands here in India ASAP! :-|

gary4gar
30-01-2008, 02:24 PM
^^^^^
get a Duplicate bill from your customer service center, they give it free of COST.
then see whats wrong, also check your usage www.portal.bsnl.co.in

janitha
30-01-2008, 02:46 PM
@praka123

Here at Kollam it is very slow most of the time nowadays and at times even slower than a dial up.

praka123
30-01-2008, 02:50 PM
^YUP!I too am facing the same.it seems may be due to NIB-II connections they are giving now :evil: :(
Hope @janitha you too ask the bsnl exchange for some confirmation :) also my line-attenuation increased from 39 to 47 :twisted: wtf? OFC fault?some paandis are digging cables here in the road :-|

drgrudge
30-01-2008, 02:53 PM
Dunno what's wrong with my connection... I'm getting 19-21 KBps from this morning and normally it's 28-29 KBps. :|

s18000rpm
30-01-2008, 07:33 PM
damn!!! :x

WTF is goin on?

dataone is sooo slow.

This forum does not open, i changed the dns to "open dns", stil nothing, pic. hosting site (imageshack) , only thumbnails work, not its link, browsing is really sloooooooooooooooow:x

but atleast d/l speed are at 70-80KBps

i'm posting this by logging in thru PROXY :|

i thought the pc got some spywares or something, but now its confirmed:)), after seein you guys post.

Rockstar11
30-01-2008, 08:07 PM
yep dataone is so slow. net bhi connect nahi ho raha hai..... :mad:

din
30-01-2008, 08:48 PM
Yes, net was slow, lil better now..

@gary4gar

I checked my usage, unbilled like 50 GB, billed also nearly same (50 GB). But before I could see the details like our plan, profile etc. Now no way to check those :(

All get dataone bill like once in a month or once in two months like the normal tel bill ? I got dataone on Nov 15th 2007. And I paid the first bill in Jan.

Harvik780
30-01-2008, 08:52 PM
Me too surfing through proxy.OpenDns is also not working.Latency has increased to a great extent.

janitha
30-01-2008, 10:08 PM
@praka123
:o we are not the only people in the forum!:) #2934

Dunno what's wrong with my connection... I'm getting 19-21 KBps from this morning and normally it's 28-29 KBps. :|

Really lucky. Mine is sooo slow. Even thinkdigit pages seldom open.

drgrudge
30-01-2008, 10:23 PM
Hope something nice happens after this slow speed. Hoping to see an increase in the speed.


</daydreaming>

drgrudge
30-01-2008, 11:37 PM
Seems things are back to normal now.

Indranil92001
31-01-2008, 04:19 AM
Hope something nice happens after this slow speed. Hoping to see an increase in the speed.


</daydreaming>

Seems things are back to normal now.


What you get now, download speed 850kBps ( I mean 8192kbps )

praka123
31-01-2008, 05:00 AM
still slow speeds.yester night the speeds did climbed upwards.but,now today morning I am d/ling debian updates @ 7-12KB/S :evil: WTF is Happening!?

Now,I went to router's web based config page(192.168.1.1) to set the modulation type as ADSL2 instead of earlier g.dmt and ADSL2+ ;a slight improvement;thats all. :(

Harvik780
31-01-2008, 12:12 PM
The problem in my area still persists,i have confirmed this from other guys.

din
31-01-2008, 12:30 PM
One of my friends form Pune called me 15 mins back. Told me internet is down all over Pune, all comapnies are in trouble. They got the news that some cable in Egypt got cut. I do not know whether it is true.

Anyway here Dataone is up (may be the direct connection at Cochin ?). Yes it is slow all over Kerala.

drgrudge
31-01-2008, 01:18 PM
Yeah it became slow again. Affected for the past 1 hour.

Rockstar11
31-01-2008, 03:25 PM
yep net slow ho gaya hai... :mad:

Guys use a proxy :D

im using http://www.free-canadian-proxy.info

Internet services in India and Egypt disrupted
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79365

Indranil92001
31-01-2008, 04:36 PM
Some web site takes time to loading but the download speed is good

Cerebral Assasin
31-01-2008, 07:13 PM
Its not only with BSNL its with hfclconnect too, mera net kal 2 baje se slow ho gaya tha ab theek huya hai.

Anyway, main aaj BSNL ke office main gaya tha, they said that i will have to apply for a telephone connection first, and i will have to pay 500 Rs for that, phone included. Uske baad main Dataone ka connection le sakta hoon. 600 Rs wala combo plan ke liye apply kar sakta hoon fir, so i will have to pay 1100 Rs only. No installation charges, nothing additional besides this.

Main to soch raha tha ki i will have to pay 3000 Rs atleast lekin i will pay only 1100 Rs. Router toh rent pe le lunga. Are there any additional hidden charges besides these ? And what is the monthly rental including taxes and router rental for Combo 600 plan.

din
31-01-2008, 07:53 PM
@Cerebral Assasin

Sorry for going offtopic ...

Eenthough I can understand Hindi, it may not be easy (including me !) for most to read it and understand fast. Will be great if you write in English ..

Ponmayilal
31-01-2008, 08:18 PM
ya,had it been in English, perhaps even me could have understood.What is this aadha hindi bhaki angrezi?:)

BTW, I checked the internet speed a while ago and get a decent 1.27Mbps from the Chicago server of speedtest.net, though the pingtime is around 600msec - double of what is usual 300msec.
And incidentally someone said thinkdigit.com as an Indian site. Thinkdigit.com server is located in Colorodo USA.
Much to my surprise the PC Magazine's (U.K.) server is located in India, most probably at Chennai ( Bharti Airtel)

s18000rpm
31-01-2008, 08:19 PM
Mbps UL plan for home users on its way, but wont be cheap, i guess.:))


BSNL launches 1Mbps and 2Mbps Unlimited Broadband service under the Business Plan category
http://bsnl.in/newsdetailed.php?news_id=399

Tariff = Business = UL 9000 Plus

Bandwidth*
1 Mbps

* Up linking will be maximum 768 Kbps under both the plans.

gary4gar
31-01-2008, 09:01 PM
yep speeds are very slow, just 10-12kbps.

guys stop your torrents:D, the total bandwidth is decreased by 60%, let others breathe.

Save bandwidth!!

drgrudge
31-01-2008, 10:31 PM
yep speeds are very slow, just 10-12kbps.

guys stop your torrents:D, the total bandwidth is decreased by 60%, let others breathe.

Save bandwidth!!
Will BSNL compensate by providing me 512kBps UL for the days they're doing this repair?

I'm using p2p and maxing out my connection. Get 24-25 KBps against my usual speed of 29-30 kBps.

janitha
31-01-2008, 10:53 PM
@Cerebral assassin
Are you trying to assassinate our cerebrum?:mad:

drgrudge
01-02-2008, 12:17 AM
Ok, had a quick chat with CMD, BSNL and here's our interview: (Re posting here)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2295/2233343888_54f5d31e96_o.jpg

Indranil92001
01-02-2008, 01:19 AM
@drgrudge do you ask about any speed increasing in future for the home user ( 2mbps to 8mbps ) during interview with CMD

gary4gar
01-02-2008, 01:48 AM
@drgrudge do you ask about any speed increasing in future for the home user ( 2mbps to 8mbps ) during interview with CMD
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

praka123
01-02-2008, 02:18 AM
I found a interesting article @ bbforum.
here it is:

New Delhi: India’s electronic ticketing and movie booking sites such as those run by Indian Railway Catering and Tourism Corp. Ltd, or IRCTC, Yatra Online Pvt. Ltd, and PVR Ltd saw a slump in ticket sales a day after two undersea cables carrying telecom traffic were severed in the Mediterranean Sea, disrupting half the Internet and communication capacity serving India.

The government said it expected the cables to be repaired within 10 days. Traffic on the affected routes were being shifted to “other cables such as SMW-3 cable and Pacific route cables etc. to restore the telecommunication links,” it said in a statement. SMW-3 is the name of a cable connecting South-East Asia, West Asia and Europe.

Undersea optic fibre circuits, leased or owned by service providers such as Reliance Communications Ltd, or RCom, Bharti Airtel Ltd or the state-run Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd (MTNL) were affected. Trade body Internet Service Providers Association of India estimated a 40-50% reduction in telecom bandwidth. The broken cables, owned by the RCom-controlled Flag Telecom Group, off the Egypt coast also affected services in that country and West Asia.

IRCTC, the online ticketing site for the Indian Railways that uses Net connectivity from MTNL, has seen a slowdown in the speed. “Since 3pm today, we have seen some fluctuation in connectivity but we are in touch with our service provider,” said a senior executive, who does not wanted to be identified. On average, the portal sells around 6,000 tickets an hour, but “that has dropped to between 1,400 and 2,400 tickets.”

MTNL leases around three-fourths of its bandwidth from Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd, or VSNL and the rest from RCom. While RCom has not restored services, VSNL has restored connectivity.

“Since this morning, 90% of our bandwidth is available for customers, which we have increased from VSNL,” said A. K. Arora, executive director at MTNL. He said RCom’s services are likely to be restored by 9pm Thursday, failing which “we will switch over completely to VSNL.”

Air ticketing portal Yatra.com has seen a 10-15% impact on volumes in the last 24 hours. It sells around 6,500 tickets a day, which, since last afternoon, has dropped to about 5,700. It is now routing traffic through Singapore. “We hope that with the alternative route, tomorrow morning our site should be back to normal,” said co-founder Dhruv Shringi.



http://www.livemint.com/2008/01/31233125/Cable-breakdown-hits-rail-air.html
..and it's reliance's undersea cable which is broken :?

news for me :confused: :-| bsnl/mtnl leasing from pvt companies :?

drgrudge
01-02-2008, 07:14 AM
@drgrudge do you ask about any speed increasing in future for the home user ( 2mbps to 8mbps ) during interview with CMD
Sure, will ask him. :lol:

Cerebral Assasin
01-02-2008, 10:17 AM
OK, here's it in English. :) I went to BSNL office yesterday, they said that i will have to apply for a telephone connection first, and i will have to pay 500 Rs for that. Only then i can apply for Dataone connection. I will apply for 600 Rs Combo plan after that, that means that i will be paying 1100 Rs only. No installation charges, nothing additional besides this.

And i was thinking that i will have to pay atleast 3000 Rs but instead i will be paying 1100 Rs only. I won't buy the router but i will get it on rent. Are there any additional hidden charges besides these ? And what is the monthly rental including taxes and router rental for Combo 600 plan.

din
01-02-2008, 10:48 AM
@Prakash

I am not very sure, but regarding the undersea cables that reach Cochin

SEA-ME-WE -> More share by VSNL

FLAG -> More share by Reliance

I think other ISPs are using these.

praka123
01-02-2008, 10:53 AM
^read in manorama news paper(pg.no 15) that Ship anchor which destroyed the Flag Telecom's cables :-|

prafull
01-02-2008, 11:55 AM
Error 404: No target servlet configured for uri: /BroadBandCustomerPortal/

Anyone else getting this error message on http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/ ?

din
01-02-2008, 12:02 PM
Yes, getting the same error. But not surprised lol, I used to get some sort of errors (not this error before though) all the time while accessing the link. sometimes it works, sometimes it does not !

amey_dude
01-02-2008, 02:00 PM
I have dataone 900UL plan. I hv a wireless setup at my home. The router i hv is linksys WRT54GC. The browsing speed is very low. However i get speed around 25 to 30 KBps when downloading using FDM (free download manager). But still i am not justified to the speed i am paying for ie while browsing i dont get 256kbps speed. When i checked the speed test in dataone.in site it say i hv speed around 65kbps to 125 kbps( only once i had tht). Is this the speed i am paying 900 for :x Or is something wrong in my connection only ??

nvidia
01-02-2008, 02:15 PM
Its because of this - http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79365

rahimveron
01-02-2008, 02:25 PM
Couldnt even connect last night but today theservice is on but it is too erratic at the moment
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amey_dude
01-02-2008, 02:55 PM
i also know the news. But then howcome others, i mean living my area having connection Home plan 500 can get 1.50Mbps ?? If they get so much speed i should also get around 200-225Kbps as i have 256 kbps connection ??

din
01-02-2008, 03:04 PM
Lil surprised !!

Dataone 900UL plan is for 256 kbps max.

And you are getting 25 to 30 Kbps, that is 30 x 8 Kbps = 240 kbps which is very close to what BSNL promise.

Other schemes are like upto 2 Mbps, but 900UL plan is not like that. Its max is 256 kbps itself.

Hope it is clear now.

Oh, I forgot, I have the same thing as you :) I mean UL 900 Plus scheme and same router (wireless).

suyashpandit
01-02-2008, 03:08 PM
man u didnt see the news paper?

some internet cables are cutted in ocean so india and egypt's internet is 50% down

but now its working well me also dataone user

din
01-02-2008, 03:10 PM
@suyashpandit

He saw the news and his speed is good too ! I mean hes getting nearly 256 kbps itself. Seems hes just confused over the plans.

amey_dude
01-02-2008, 03:19 PM
are...i know the plan....i said tht i get low speeds while browsing.

see this picture.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/480/98478801an3.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=98478801an3.jpg)

jus now i hv tested.

gary4gar
01-02-2008, 08:33 PM
Moody Bsnl servers:lol:

praka123
01-02-2008, 08:41 PM
@din:it seems NIB-II dataone users are not facing low speeds?(whose IP starts with 117.xx.) while those old dataone users having assigned 59.xx.x.x are facing real slow esp this time. :evil:

praka123
01-02-2008, 10:56 PM
^still slow :(

abhinandh
02-02-2008, 10:27 AM
are...i know the plan....i said tht i get low speeds while browsing.

see this picture.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/480/98478801an3.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=98478801an3.jpg)

jus now i hv tested.
hey don't use bsnl site for testing your speed.its not accurate.try www.speedtest.net

ayushman9
02-02-2008, 10:49 AM
I am residing in raipur ( C.G) . I have a vista ultimate 32 bit installed as primary operating system and win xp pro 64 bit as secondary but i only use vista to download and have a dataone plan 500 activated .The connection was running fine however just a week ago it has suddenly got slow .ie

1. When i go to dataone administration page it shows everything normal ,and when i click on the check download speed ,it shows it between 863 kbps to 1.023 mbps .

2 Almost all sites are taking some what more time to load . Eg Thinkdigit is taking approx 7 sec to load without pictures then 2 more sec for pictures previously it took only 3 to 4 sec for complete loading. However Google search is running fast or normal .

3 . The most annoying thing is rapid share . I always use to choose "telisonera " or "Global crossing" for download and download speed used to reach 120 kbps to 220 kbps LITERALLY . However now it averages to 65 to 75 kbps and rarely reaching 100 kbps.

4. However torrent ( i use u torrent ) is running perfectly fine with speed somewhat slow but not so slow about 80 to 100 kbps depending upon tracker speed .

What may be the problem ? I want to talk to bsnl Agent as last option as they are pretty rude here .

nvidia
02-02-2008, 10:59 AM
Its because of an undersea cable breakage...
See this - http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79365

gary4gar
02-02-2008, 02:08 PM
I am residing in raipur ( C.G) . I have a vista ultimate 32 bit installed as primary operating system and win xp pro 64 bit as secondary but i only use vista to download and have a dataone plan 500 activated .The connection was running fine however just a week ago it has suddenly got slow .ie

1. When i go to dataone administration page it shows everything normal ,and when i click on the check download speed ,it shows it between 863 kbps to 1.023 mbps .

2 Almost all sites are taking some what more time to load . Eg Thinkdigit is taking approx 7 sec to load without pictures then 2 more sec for pictures previously it took only 3 to 4 sec for complete loading. However Google search is running fast or normal .

3 . The most annoying thing is rapid share . I always use to choose "telisonera " or "Global crossing" for download and download speed used to reach 120 kbps to 220 kbps LITERALLY . However now it averages to 65 to 75 kbps and rarely reaching 100 kbps.


4. However torrent ( i use u torrent ) is running perfectly fine with speed somewhat slow but not so slow about 80 to 100 kbps depending upon tracker speed .

What may be the problem ? I want to talk to bsnl Agent as last option as they are pretty rude here .
Good morning!
didn't read the news??
http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?autono=312241&leftnm=8&subLeft=0&chkFlg=

my speeds are slow
http://www.speedtest.net/result/229494281.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Interesting info
REPAIRING A BROKEN UNDERSEA CABLE

# Find the location of the accident; drag the damaged part to the surface, and replace it with a new stretch of cable
# May also send light pulses along the fibers in the cable to determine the exact location
# A working fiber will transmit those pulses all the way across the ocean; a broken one will bounce it back
# The telecom operator then sends out a large cable ship with a few miles of fresh fibre-optic lines
# If the faulty part of the cable is less than about 4,000 feet down, a submersible robot can be sent
# The robot finds the right place; grabs hold of the cable; cuts out the malfunctioning section, and pulls the loose ends back up to the ship
# Robots do not work in very deep water. In such cases, technicians use a grapnel to cut the cable and hold it
# A skilled technician (jointer) splices the glass fibers; uses adhesives to attach the new section of cable
# The repaired cable is then lowered back to the seabed on ropes

praka123
02-02-2008, 04:37 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/229528377.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
^for national links also speed sucks :evil:

Ponmayilal
02-02-2008, 04:51 PM
My speedtest
Chicago server:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/229532834.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Mumbai server:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/229534205.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

prafull
03-02-2008, 12:46 PM
Hi guys, I have another query.

I was using 500C plan (2-8 unlimited). I applied for special combo 999 plan(256 kbps unlimited connection, no rental plus free calls to all landlines and mobiles in mp and cg) on 28th Jan. I was told that my plan will change from 1st feb. I called local cc yesterday and they informed that my application has been forwarded to bangalore and plan will become active from evening and I will receive a call about that.

This morning that local cc number was unavailable so I called up 1500 and asked them which plan I am on and they said 999 combo plan. They dint had a clue whether my plan was changed but they informed " our record shows your plan as 999 combo, that means 256k unlimited + free calls to bsnl".
After that I checked my download speeds and I am still getting the same which I was getting with 500C plan(around 600k after undersea cable broke) . So my question is, is it safe to continue downloading and I wont be charged extra? Or should I wait for some sort of confirmatory call?

drgrudge
03-02-2008, 12:57 PM
^^
Afaik, they won't