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[Phreezer]

hi guys,
i'm not being able to open some sites today while others are opening fine. I need to login to my webhosting account but the website just refused to open. Then I tried a US proxy & the site opens fine...what can be the possible problem? Is it DNS or something...

Problem solved ppl...was a temporary problem with DNS...but that temporary lasted for hours that's why i posted here...sorry for the futile post.

[ravi_9793]

Have you tried using other browser also.Please try to open using other browser.

[[xubz]]

@Phreezer -> Were you from Bangalore? Even I had the same problem, Both the Latencies and DNS Failures had peaked day-before-yesterday to yesterday (till evening).

Its working fine now, Hope it stays that way. (And sheesh! Winter is killing me :s)

[masterash]

Hi Guys,

I need help. I am not in Hyderabad but my in-laws liveher. I asked them to get BSNL DataOne connection to use VOIP.
It took 6weeks to get it as BSNL server was down.
Finally they got the connection lastweek. It worked first 2 days and after that it is down again. They visited BSNL local office and were told that server was down. Is it normal with BSNL.
They live in Yusuf Guda. Can anybody around that area please tell me if they are having any Internet issues with BSNL Dataone and How is the quality like for Internet. In terms of uptime/spedd.

Thanks

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

You will be charged on a pro rata basis. As per what you have posted, your plan changed on the 3rd. Which means you can use the rest 27days on the Home500 plan which is 2560MB/30days = 85.33MB/day x 27days = 2304MB. So, this month, your usage shouldn't exceed 2304MB.

One thing I'm not sure about is if BSNL has reset your data counter on the 3rd. If they have not, then you can use 2304MB+3days of 1GB(1024/30 x 3) = 2304+102= 2406. So, if your account page did not reset to 0 on the 3rd, then you can use a total of 2406MB this month. Hope this help:)


Thanks a lot for your reply..!
actually even if i get 2 GB downlaod this month..its good enough
coz i have already exceeded 1 Gb ! so just wanted to be sure that i won't be charged for 1GB+ as plan as already been changed !

so i guess i can start off with free night time !! lol !

[Phreezer]

no [xubz] am not from hyderabad. BSNL works fine here most of the time as opposed to the popular notion...wish it stays this way.

[direfulsky]

hello guys!
i am unable to open dataone usage account..http://10.240.43.216/webLogin.jsp
is i need a JVM ..i did every thing disbaled firewall...and clearing all private data from ie...please help!
thanks. even the link on up east web direct me to www.bsnl.co.in rather then where it supposed to!

[praka123]

http://10.240.64.195/webLogin.jsp
^try this

[Ricky]

Any guy here who got changed to bsnl combo C+ plan ? (which is actually Rs. 600 month including ph. rental I guess) ...
I am wishing to change to this new plan from 900ul PLUS.. I am really gone made with 256kbps.. I need more :P

If any guy then tell me how much time it took you to get plan changed after you gave applcation ?

[jossee]

Any guy here who got changed to bsnl combo C+ plan ? (which is actually Rs. 600 month including ph. rental I guess) ...
I am wishing to change to this new plan from 900ul PLUS.. I am really gone made with 256kbps.. I need more :P

If any guy then tell me how much time it took you to get plan changed after you gave applcation ?

It will be done only on 31st of the previous month or 1st of the month.. regardless your submission of application..

[din]

Just 3 days honeymoon with dataone, problems still :( I am getting disconnected a lot. Anyone having new connection facing similar issues ?

I got my connection last friday (Nov 16). It worked till evening and then stopped (no blinking of the data LED - modem is SIEMENS C2110). Then it came back at night and worked normally. Saturday somewhat ok, but I didn't check much. Sunday again 3 or 4 hr down, back in perfect at night.

Today only 1 or 2 hr uptime. Sometimes the LINK LED blinks, sometimes that also does not glow. When I called the exchange people, they said it may be some temporary problem, asked me to check it for some more time.

When it connects, I am getting good speed - my scheme is 256 unlimited and I am getting a constant speed of 230 -240.

Any ideas ? Any others facing similar issues ? Anything to check ? Any chance it will be a problem of the modem ?

[Charan]

New version 2.8 released with following addition
* Add new combo plans plans Home 500 C and 500 C+
* Changed revised Tax rate in estimated bill


Download latest version from http://shaplus.com/dataone

Thread (http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=664068)

[Ponmayilal]

@din, as a first step disconnect your wireless router, connect your modem directly to the PC and check out whether the connection drops.Bad and noisy lines will drop connections. I am sure there will be a page in your modem giving out the connection details when your connection is on or dropped..In particular check out the line parameter SNR.( Signal to noise ratio.)If it is less than 12 whether download or upload, report the same to BSNL and ask them to check your line.Till the frequent disconnection problem is sorted out keep your wireless router away and don't ever tell the BSNL guys. Otherwise straightaway they will blame the router without even looking whether the fault is on their side.They are such wonderful technically capable guys.

[din]

@Ponmayilal

Thanks a lot for your suggestion. I will sure try that. But even before connecting the wireless router, the problem was there. So I do not think it is the router issue, but will check before I confirm.

Anyway will call them again tomorrow to test it.

Edit

6.16 PM

Back in broadband, pretty good speed ! Hmm, they might be switching off something till 6.00 PM and making it ON when they go home ? LOL

[praka123]

in linux try,pppoe-discovery for more details of ur core server(just a tip!).
go to 192.168.1.1 for ur cpe interface.check the details.yes,u got a default user and passwd.dont know them reg siemens.just check the booklet u got with it or google.

[din]

This is acting strange, may be I am new to Dataone, others already seen ?

Yesterday night, broadband is back, speed goes too high (never mind, the happiness of dial-up to bb user !) like 40, 80,100, 140 KB/S (yes I double checked).

Today morning again good speeds, like 40-60 KB/s. I am little confused coz, my plan is 256 unlimited, this 140 means 140x8 = 1120 kbps isn't it ?

Or this is for a short time, will be back to normal ?

Downloading Fedora DVD for testing speed, downloaded 700 MB so far in a short span of time ..

[Ricky]

@din..

It is for sure that the problem lies in your line but not in dataone guy.
But at your end you can try few stuff..
Like reducing number of Jack at your home, if you have phone line in built in you wiring ie. house wiring then try to get direct cable to your modem.

If it does not help then look for open joint then cut them and make a fresh joint then cover with cap..

I am sure all will help !

and if none of them help then ..
CALL BSNL .. $#@* guys !

[din]

Hmm, thank you for the suggestion.

But I have a strong feeling that it is not the line !! Reason is net is back now and I am getting very good speed, like 100 KB/s ! May be some guys are working on the lines at day time and switching off something ? Any chance of that ? Coz it becomes alright in the evening and night.

Anyway I am going to contact some higher officials this week, will keep you posted.

[Ponmayilal]

Check your connection speed at various times using
http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html
and email the results to yourself.
That way you should be able to keep a record rather than keeping it in your memory.:)

[Cyrus_the_virus]

This is acting strange, may be I am new to Dataone, others already seen ?

Yesterday night, broadband is back, speed goes too high (never mind, the happiness of dial-up to bb user !) like 40, 80,100, 140 KB/S (yes I double checked).

Today morning again good speeds, like 40-60 KB/s. I am little confused coz, my plan is 256 unlimited, this 140 means 140x8 = 1120 kbps isn't it ?

Or this is for a short time, will be back to normal ?

Downloading Fedora DVD for testing speed, downloaded 700 MB so far in a short span of time ..
This is not a problem but it's a blessing. Because by nature, 256unlimited is not supposed to give you more than 256Kbps. But most of the times, BSNL takes out this restriction during the night time and you can run the line at it's full speed.

On the other hand, if you shifted from Home500 to 256unlimited, then you are supposed to get 2Mbps unlimited. It might just be that during the day, the exchange is peaking it's capacity with regards to no. of users online resulting in the lower bandwidth.

However, I think it's more or less the first case I mentioned.

[Ricky]

Hmm, thank you for the suggestion.

But I have a strong feeling that it is not the line !! Reason is net is back now and I am getting very good speed, like 100 KB/s ! May be some guys are working on the lines at day time and switching off something ? Any chance of that ? Coz it becomes alright in the evening and night.

Anyway I am going to contact some higher officials this week, will keep you posted.

Link getting down in 95% is due to line fault !
I am using bSNL 900 uL from 14 months !

BTw, I am not getting speed more than 256 kbps.. but yes.. its always 256 kpbs regardless of time.. whever I download, I get full ~256 kbps !

[Cyrus_the_virus]

Link getting down in 95% is due to line fault !
I am using bSNL 900 uL from 14 months !

BTw, I am not getting speed more than 256 kbps.. but yes.. its always 256 kpbs regardless of time.. whever I download, I get full ~256 kbps !
I don't think you understood what he was saying. He was talking about getting over 256Kbps and not below 256Kbps

[Ricky]

Cyrus... well.. I know and that is what I am asking him that I am having 900 UL from 1 yrs and so and I am not getting more than 256 kbps.. but yes.. what I get I get good..ie .full 256kbps.. but never more than that!

[din]

No, i got what you (both) said, no confusion.

Yes, I know this is blessing, but its like - when its connected, great speed, but when theres problem, nothing :(

Anyway contacted the officials and they are looking into it. They tested the line etc today, so far couldn't find any problem.

Today it was good (please do not think I am boasting, as I mentioned before, the joy of a dial up to broadband user). Fedora DVD done and net was great till 2.45 PM. Then went down and came back at 3.15. Speed was really good, I tried Mint Linux latest ver (CD -700 MB), took exactly 1 hr 10 mins.

Downloading Sabayon Linux DVD now.

[Ricky]

din.. tell us your lines attenuation and snr figures.

[din]

Local SNRMargin 7.5 dB
Local Line Attn 58.5 dB

Remote Line Attn 42.5 dB
Remote SNRMargin 6.0 dB

That is what you meant ? Got t from modem admin page (status - broadband line). Or it is not what you meant ?

[praka123]

^which exchange for u?eramalloor?or cherthala?i am 3 kms away from my exchange and in H500 it defaults daytime max @217KB/Sec and night it climbs upto 235KB/S.if ur very near to ur exchange perhaps.. :D good speeds.
In my town users get avg 230-240KB/S constant.but my connxn is in distance :( so..also 256KBps UL sucks with the 32KB/Sec speed come join the home500 connection or its other plans.it is addictive :D and night UL 2-8am u can schedule downloads and can sleep very well 8)

[din]

Aroor exchange, yes, distance is more. I think 5.7 KM from exchange to home. Is that the problem ?

But one thing I do not understand is, when connected the speed is great, like I get nearly 2 Mbps. Confused ..

This is like extreme, I mean either no connection at all (no low speed, but just no connection at all) or high speed.

Well, will ask exchange people to test the line, then will contact higher officials - as its not stable yet.

[praka123]

acc to exchange guys dataone will be given only to people within 2.5 kms from exchange.
and ur distance seems too long :D still it works and getting good speeds means good OFC setup :D

[Cyrus_the_virus]

This is like extreme, I mean either no connection at all (no low speed, but just no connection at all) or high speed.


Could you just answer these few questions for me plz:

1.> Does the connection drop while you browse?

a.)Drops regardless of connection being used or not
b.)Drops only when browsing
c.)Drops only when idle

2.> When the connection drops, do you see any change of lights on the modem?

a.) No lights change
b.) Line/ADSL light flashes or goes off
c.) Only internet/WAN light goes off or flashing

3.> How long does the connection stay disconnected?

a.) Under 5 mins
b.) 5-30mins
c.) Over 30mins

4.> Do you see any pattern in the disconnection

a.) No pattern, drops randomly throughout the day
b.) Drops only at particular times of the day (Mention the time and circumstance)


Please answer these questions for me so that we could find out where the problem is.

[din]

Could you just answer these few questions for me plz:

1.> Does the connection drop while you browse?

a.)Drops regardless of connection being used or not
b.)Drops only when browsing
c.)Drops only when idle

Answer : No, no drop at all

2.> When the connection drops, do you see any change of lights on the modem?

a.) No lights change
b.) Line/ADSL light flashes or goes off
c.) Only internet/WAN light goes off or flashing

Answer : OK, its like this. When the connection goes down, there is no light in data LED. The link LED blinks.

3.> How long does the connection stay disconnected?

a.) Under 5 mins
b.) 5-30mins
c.) Over 30mins

Answer : When it disconnects, it goes down atleast 30 mins. And mostly 2-3 hrs :(

4.> Do you see any pattern in the disconnection

a.) No pattern, drops randomly throughout the day
b.) Drops only at particular times of the day (Mention the time and circumstance)

Answer : Yes, from the last 6 days (I got dataone last friday), the pattern is as below.

Day 1 - They came and installed at afternoon, it worked great for 2 hrs. Then got disconnected for 2 hrs, came back in the evening, worked for 2 hrs again.

Day 2- From morning I was getting great speed. Down after 5 hrs (12.30 Noon), came back at 2.30, down again at 4.00, back at 6.30 and great speed all night.

Day 3 - Very similar time pattern as day 2 (above)

Day 4 - Very similar to day 2

Day 5 - Very similar to day 2

Day 6 (today) - Good speed from early morning till 2.45 PM. Then went down and came back at 3.15. Gone after 2 hrs. Now back again.

In short, what I suspect is (may be my very stupid thinking), line is ok, but they are doing some work at day time and they bring it down intensionally ? Coz all night its fine, morning mostly till noon its fine.

Note : Also, my scheme is 256 UL Plus. But most of the time I am getting good speed and almost all the time speed is above 256.

Please answer these questions for me so that we could find out where the problem is.

Thank you very much my friend.

[Cyrus_the_virus]

you said your connection does go down. that's what my first question was as to when your connection drops..

[din]

Oh, I am sorry, yes, the connection goes down.

Answer is : a.)Drops regardless of connection being used or not

Sorry for the confusion

[Cyrus_the_virus]

Anyways, from what I understand, this is called a case of 'Intermittent Synchronisation'. Be wary that BSNL engineers might have never heard of that term.

The Data light is the one showing your TCP/IP or ATM connection status to the BSNL's BRAS servers and the Link light is the one which shows the connection status to BSNL's DSLAM. Now the B-RAS connection happens after the DSLAM connection is established. So, if there is no DSLAM connection, there will certainly not be a B-RAS connection which is necessary for getting the internet.

Hence, as you noted the lights on the modem, is shows that whenever you loose connection, your modem is loosing synchronisation with the local telephone exhange DSLAM and hence the link light starts to flash as it's trying to re-establish the connection while the data light is off as you cannot establish a B-RAS connection till the DSLAM connection is established.

Let's rule out the possibilites one by one now.

The factors which cause drops in DSLAM connectivity can only be attributed to 'Line Faults' or problem with 'exchange equipment' or problem with the 'modem/router' and not your computer unless you're using the USB port to connect to the modem. If you're already using the USB, try using the LAN cable to see if the problem persists to rule out a possibility of computer related fault. Also if possible try with a friend's modem to rule out modem fault.

If the above checks are carried out, then it's clearly a possibility of a line fault or exchange equipment fault. It's simply unacceptable if BSNL is trying to carry out works everyday leading to the disconnection of your service. That is a violation of terms and conditions and QOS.

Also just make sure that your line is not runnig close to any electrical appliances or machines etc which run only during the time you loose connectivity.

Hope you understood this part.

[Ricky]

Local SNRMargin 7.5 dB
Local Line Attn 58.5 dB

Remote Line Attn 42.5 dB
Remote SNRMargin 6.0 dB

That is what you meant ? Got t from modem admin page (status - broadband line). Or it is not what you meant ?

Ama yaar, why you people don't understand..

I was about to write an article on aDSL stuff, something like SNR , aTTN and those dB stuff. Anyways, will do some day .. :P

Din, without going in detail, you should understand that more the SNR, better the connectivity. BSNL is just fine, only problem is with line. Your UP (remote) is 6dB and Down (local) is 7dB and this is the problem.
Second thing you must know that your ATTN must be lesser, lesser is better.
One thing is that your distance is too much.

My SNR used to be similar to you (means I had faced same situation as yours when I had got my aDSL) but now atm (at the moment) I have ..

---------------
SNR-
Local : 18.5 dB
Remote : 20 dB

Attn -
Local : 20 dB
Remote : 38dB
-------------
This is what is perfect for aDSL which now I am having (it get disturbed in Rainy season or Too hot season)

My case was even worst... don't ask me what .. and how ..

Ok..so in short.. ur prblem is only of line..
I had posted solution ie. looking for joints, reducing number joints, covering joints with tape.. also removing number phone connector etc. etc..
I think you overlooked that post..

Anyways..I don't like telling anything further, if you dont' want to help yourself then its upto you..
I tried giving help !

@din..

It is for sure that the problem lies in your line but not in dataone guy.
But at your end you can try few stuff..
Like reducing number of Jack at your home, if you have phone line in built in you wiring ie. house wiring then try to get direct cable to your modem.

If it does not help then look for open joint then cut them and make a fresh joint then cover with tape..

I am sure all will help !

and if none of them help then ..
CALL BSNL .. $#@* guys !

Hello Din..
This one is the post which may have already solved your prblm

[cool_techie_tvm]

HIGHER THE SNR NUMBER WILL HELP U TO ABLE ONLINE 24/7... i mean no disconnection ...this SNR Figure depands on ur line and how far ur from UR Exchange .... even single joint will decrease ur snr up to 10db down ... :( ... so be careful on that no Joint between NID AND UR ADSL MODEM

6dB or below is bad and will experience no synch or intermittent synch problems

7dB-10dB is fair but does not leave much room for variances in conditions

11dB-20dB is good with no synch problems

20dB-28dB is excellent

29dB or above is outstanding

For Line Attenuation

Line attenuation also depands on how far ur from exchange . Maximum signal loss recommendation is usually about 60dB. .but Lower is alwys good .

and this will also help to mesaure how much max Bandwidth u can get on ur line .

20dB and below is outstanding

20dB-30dB is excellent

30dB-40dB is very good

40dB-50dB is good

50dB-60dB is poor and may experience connectivity issues

60dB or above is bad and will experience connectivity issues

I HOPE THE ABOVE DESCRIPTION WILL HELP ..... :)

[praka123]

i'm now at d/l attn value 40.0 dB and u/l 21.5 dB.(SNR upstream:23 dB downstream:24.5 dB)I am connected from underground cable via a box fixed outside my house.the cable used are very old(some 8 yrs old or more!) and then there is a plug and socket(old type) there for to plugin.if i replace the plugnsocket and another connector between,will i get attenuation value be low?actually my friend is getting stable 240KBps+ speeds,but he is near to exchange.
So,Is it worth for me to rewire with new cables and connecting be straight to the splitter(which bsnl supplied).

[din]

@Ricky

I am really sorry, I read all the posts by you. They are indeed very helpful. However, I couldn't do what you mentioned and sure it is a ig mistake from my part. I thought line is ok ! But after reading your explanation again, I am going to try that. I will sure keep you posted on that.

@Cyrus_the_virus

Thank you very much. I am going to contact the exchange guys after doing what Ricky mentioned. Will see whether these helps and solves the issue.

@cool_techie_tvm

Yes, there are joints, going to reduce those as far as possible.

@praka123

Yes, they first told me they will not give broadband where distance > 5 KM. But as I am helpless (no other ISP here), finally they made it ok. But there are some other people using BB which are ven far. Like they are at a distance of 7 KM and more from exchange !! And running BB smoothly, may be pure luck.

I am posting this at 5.45 AM, now the speed is really good, like 130 KB/S ( x 8 kbps ? ) and no disconnections.

One more qn : Any idea/guess why there is no problem from evening 6.30 to next day noon (good speed, no disconnection)? this pattern is same for almost all days.

[Ricky]

One more qn : Any idea/guess why there is no problem from evening 6.30 to next day noon (good speed, no disconnection)? this pattern is same for almost all days.

Ya I do have, I do not have clear idea about this but I have observed that during nights SNR improves automatically, you should check your SNR and ATTN rate in night and you find it better than day time.

Just to add more: I even made fresh joint at telephone POLE and taped it.

i'm now at d/l attn value 40.0 dB and u/l 21.5 dB.(SNR upstream:23 dB downstream:24.5 dB)I am connected from underground cable via a box fixed outside my house.the cable used are very old(some 8 yrs old or more!) and then there is a plug and socket(old type) there for to plugin.if i replace the plugnsocket and another connector between,will i get attenuation value be low?actually my friend is getting stable 240KBps+ speeds,but he is near to exchange.
So,Is it worth for me to rewire with new cables and connecting be straight to the splitter(which bsnl supplied).
Your line figures are already good but there are chances that they may get better but before doing this, see what it shows in bandwidth up and down section of your modem information page.

[gary4gar]

can i also increase the speed some way?
Modem Status

Connection Status Connected
Us Rate (Kbps) 512
Ds Rate (Kbps) 2048
US Margin 26
DS Margin 6
Trained Modulation ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 34
US Line Attenuation 22
Peak Cell Rate 1207 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast 0
CRC Tx Fast 0
CRC Rx Interleaved 50
CRC Tx Interleaved 19
Path Mode Interleaved
DSL Statistics

Near End F4 Loop Back Count 0
Near End F5 Loop Back Count 0

what my SNR?
and atten
are they good?
my speeds are not stable
they always jump up & down between 217 to 150 some times 100 and even 70 too
but on a avg i get 150:(

[cool_techie_tvm]

^^ Your downstream SNR is 6 and upstream SNR is 26.

[din]

you should check your SNR and ATTN rate in night and you find it better than day time.

Sorry for bugging too much. But yes, I checked the attn values and SNR values when the speed goes very high, when its night, when its stable etc. But there is not much variation, actually the values are not changing much, like very very small change only!

Confusing .. Exchange people will re-check it I think, will keep you updated on how their test goes.

Todays update- good speed from early morning till 11.30 AM (Sabayon Linux DVD almost done), then completely down, now (12.45) it is back, good speed again, do not know how long lol.

[gary4gar]

^^ Your downstream SNR is 6 and upstream SNR is 26.
then according to you its bad?
:(

[cool_techie_tvm]

^^ are u experiencing synching problems, means does the modem takes a long time to establish a stable ADSL link after the initial handshake process??

[gary4gar]

^^ are u experiencing synching problems, means does the modem takes a long time to establish a stable ADSL link after the initial handshake process??
well that happens only some time once or twice in whole week when the adsnl link does not glow at all but that too glows after a restart:cool:

whereas rest of the time link come without any problem. also the link is rock sable;)

[praka123]

@ricky:
presently i uses op.mode G.Dmt while earlier i had set it to T1.413.
upstream(daytime)
384 Kbps
DownStream(daytime)
2048 Kbps
but if i swith Operation Mode to T1.413,i am getting displayed in modem page: upstream 512kbps and download 2048kbps which one is better?

[gary4gar]

@ricky:
presently i uses op.mode G.Dmt while earlier i had set it to T1.413.
upstream(daytime)
384 Kbps
DownStream(daytime)
2048 Kbps
but if i swith Operation Mode to T1.413,i am getting displayed in modem page: upstream 512kbps and download 2048kbps which one is better?
when i select T1.413 my modem light does not glow :confused:

Hell the Values changed as soon as i rebooted my router
Modem Status

Connection Status Connected
Us Rate (Kbps) 512
Ds Rate (Kbps) 2048
US Margin 26
DS Margin 25
Trained Modulation ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 34
US Line Attenuation 22
Peak Cell Rate 1207 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast 0
CRC Tx Fast 0
CRC Rx Interleaved 0
CRC Tx Interleaved 1
Path Mode Interleaved
DSL Statistics

Near End F4 Loop Back Count 0
Near End F5 Loop Back Count 0

i wanna know how often do they change?

[hoodiboy]

Has BSNL decided 2 begin 2 MBPS Unlimited Home Plan.....?????

[Ricky]

Has BSNL decided 2 begin 2 MBPS Unlimited Home Plan.....?????

No.. :P and I guess they will do it never..
I have just sent application to shift to new plan ie. 500C+ that is 600 per month and night unlimited

Modem is intelligent enough and it determines best available download and upload capacity of your line by SNR and ATTN itself.
For both, gary4gar and Praka123, your lines are already having 2048 kbps capability downstream which means if you are getting lower speed then its due to BSNL's network congestion or due to slow source of download.

Want to add more.. I guess BSNL uses G.dmt which can give maximum 2048 kbps of bandwidth.
Gary4gar, you already have very fine figures.

for DIN,
Small changes in figures sometimes makes big differences..
for instance.. if ur SNR down is 11 dB then you will not stable sync and if your SNR down is 13dB then you can have a stable sync..

You can set operation mode to "multimode" (as with my modem) then modem will select best op.mode on its own.

[ravi_9793]

Has BSNL decided 2 begin 2 MBPS Unlimited Home Plan.....?????

No, ..and I don't think they have any such plan in near future.

[praka123]

Fellow dataone users,2007 is near ending :D and i am wondering for 2008 bsnl will give what new offers?well i dont expect 8mbps atleast some increase in speed and free usage to increased to 4GB?well after maran step down cant expect much :-|

[Rockstar11]

hmmm.. im waiting for dataone 8 Mbps or 2 Mbps unlimited.. :rolleyes:
aawaz do hum ek hai.. :D

[azaad_shri75]

Fellow dataone users,2007 is near ending :D and i am wondering for 2008 bsnl will give what new offers?well i dont expect 8mbps atleast some increase in speed and free usage to increased to 4GB?well after maran step down cant expect much :-|

yes I too agree to that.

[gagandeep]

Startup 250 and Home 500 plan users are less likely to get 8mbps speed according to my thinking. But lets see that we get 8mbps or not. The Upload speed should also increase to 1mbps or something of that sort.

What upload speeds should we get in Startup 250, Home 500 and Home 1000??

[gary4gar]

Startup 250 and Home 500 plan users are less likely to get 8mbps speed according to my thinking. But lets see that we get 8mbps or not. The Upload speed should also increase to 1mbps or something of that sort.

What upload speeds should we get in Startup 250, Home 500 and Home 1000??
it depends...
some get 256kbps while other like me get 512kbps:p

[gagandeep]

it depends...
some get 256kbps while other like me get 512kbps:p

I get 256kbps then. Even my modem says Upstream rate: 256 kbps. By the way you are on which plan???

[praka123]

u/l speed on night on H500 for me is approx 60KB/S and very rarely it goes more than that speed.d/l is 218KB/S or 230KB/S depending on time :(

[gagandeep]

u/l speed on night on H500 for me is approx 60KB/S and very rarely it goes more than that speed.d/l is 218KB/S or 230KB/S depending on time :(
I am on Home 1000, my modem says Upstream rate 256 kbps and I get 25-32 KB/s upload speed. I live in Gurgaon, Haryana (just adjacent to Delhi). On which plan are you??

[praka123]

as explained am on Home500 plan and am in Kochin,Kerala.

[gagandeep]

Which ADSL mode are you using?? I am on G.dmt .

G.dmt or G.Lite or T1.413???

Have a look at my ADSL Line Status

Statistics --- Downstream/Upstream
Line Rate --- 2048 Kbps/256 Kbps
Attainable Line Rate --- 8448 Kbps/1036 Kbps
Noise Margin --- 30.2 dB/31.0 dB
Line Attenuation --- 37.0 dB/20.5 dB
Output Power --- 13.8 dBm/10.8 dBm

My line can handle ~8mbps download and ~1mbps upload. I think that the exchange here in Gurgaon has been upgraded for the 8mbps plan.

[praka123]

for me i am using G.dmt and earlier used T1.413 both gave good speeds.
dont look at the upstream/downstream limit that is shown in modem admin page.instead look at SNR(higher is better) and line Attenuation values(lower the better) .BTW am using a huewai MT880 with updated firmware.
Upstream:
ADSL Link Speed

512 Kbps
downstream:
ADSL Link Speed

2048 Kbps
and the speeds depends upon the core server from where adsl is connected to local exchanges.for me cochin server does it pretty well.

[gagandeep]

Thanks, praka123

[vaibhavtek]

One info:-
on 25/11/07 bsnl broadband service will not be available from 02 hrs to 04 hrs.
that means 2 AM to 4 AM.

for kolkata

[praka123]

^it is for ur area core server only! :D it depends.

[vaibhavtek]

ya post edited

[dkalze]

hi can i use my friend's happy hours for downloads..??

......i have a 250 plan n my frnd have a 500 plan.....is there any way i can use my friends ip,username and password n download from his account...:confused:

....these ppl r giving a special offer for bsnl employees ( my fathers in bsnl )...giving 250 plan for 100......but no such offer on 500 or 700 plan :cry:.....help me with tat if u any other plan...plz

[ravi_9793]

hi can i use my friend's happy hours for downloads..??

......i have a 250 plan n my frnd have a 500 plan.....is there any way i can use my friends ip,username and password n download from his account...:confused:

....these ppl r giving a special offer for bsnl employees ( my fathers in bsnl )...giving 250 plan for 100......but no such offer on 500 or 700 plan :cry:.....help me with tat if u any other plan...plz
No you cannot use other's username and password on your line.BSNL has done port binding.

[gagandeep]

hi can i use my friend's happy hours for downloads..??

......i have a 250 plan n my frnd have a 500 plan.....is there any way i can use my friends ip,username and password n download from his account...:confused:

....these ppl r giving a special offer for bsnl employees ( my fathers in bsnl )...giving 250 plan for 100......but no such offer on 500 or 700 plan :cry:.....help me with tat if u any other plan...plz
Where do you live??? In Gurgaon, Port Binding is still not done.

[gary4gar]

I get 256kbps then. Even my modem says Upstream rate: 256 kbps. By the way you are on which plan???
HOME 500

[dkalze]

Where do you live??? In Gurgaon, Port Binding is still not done.

i live in Hyderabad.............so there's no way it cant be done if port binding is done ?? :confused:

[Ricky]

Now new crap from BSNL, I am facing line SNR problem from last 2 days and its fluctuating real fast, at times it is 27 and at other it is only 6 dB and mostly down SNR is disturbed.

I think its problem from Exchange because this much big fluctuation is not possible from line fault, something must be big ie. like exchange involvement etc.
Any idea ?

I will rebind wire on pole tomorrow to assure myself.

[Harvik780]

Maybe your line has interference from another line.
There are least chances that the problem is from the exchange because then others would be facing the problem too.
If your line is new then it wasn't able to stabilize or maybe BSNL started a connection in a dead line for someone and that line is interfering with your line.

[praka123]

guys...i read in bsnl orkut community that new dataone connections are alloted with static ip's!and someone there posted that due to account hacking etc from 2008 onwards they will change current dataone users too to static ip :oops: OMG!I dont want this to happen!!dynamic IP is better for me. :(
if they increase speed on 2008,thats good,still this static ip thing :( only pvt torrent tracker users will benefit i think. :-|

[gagandeep]

Static IP will be good for those who want to host websites on their Home computers.

But for those who download files from Rapidshare, it will be an headache. They'll have to wait for 2 hours to download more if they have downloaded 100 mb. I personally don't want this Static IP. BSNL should give an option to the users for Dynamic IP or Static IP.

[praka123]

privacy!privacy dude!that too matters.I know proxies are there,still :(

[gagandeep]

yes, you are correct

[The_Devil_Himself]

@praka123:don't worry dude they can't make it compulsory for everybody to use static ip address.Static Ip means huge costs on their part.

[praka123]

^if they want they can do!with IPTV and all launching they may enforce static ip :oops:

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^then I guess they will have to increase the costs too cos static ip is not cheap and they won't pay it from their pockets.

[gagandeep]

I think they'll enforce Static IP only to IPTV customers.

[Rockstar11]

hello friends.
kisi ko BSNL 8 Mbps and unlimited 2 Mbps ke baare mein koi aur news mili ??
december suru ho gaya hai..http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/14.gif

aur yeh kya hai??
test 8mb http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/7.gif
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4087/bsnlcv8.gif

[s18000rpm]

which home plan has the fastest d/l & u/l speeds?

:D

[gary4gar]

which home plan has the fastest d/l & u/l speeds?

:D
all belong to same cult:p
no difference:|

guys...i read in bsnl orkut community that new dataone connections are alloted with static ip's!and someone there posted that due to account hacking etc from 2008 onwards they will change current dataone users too to static ip :oops: OMG!I dont want this to happen!!dynamic IP is better for me. :(
if they increase speed on 2008,thats good,still this static ip thing :( only pvt torrent tracker users will benefit i think. :-|
really good news
i am happy, i always wanted a static ip:)
but bad news for all those RS users:p
their time has come:D

[praka123]

^and this news is not yet confirmed :) that gives some hope for me :D

[s18000rpm]

does the WiFi modem come wit LAN connector too?

soon i'm getting a laptop (wit in-built wifi), but my PC doesnt hav the wifi card.

[Cyrus_the_virus]

does the WiFi modem come wit LAN connector too?

soon i'm getting a laptop (wit in-built wifi), but my PC doesnt hav the wifi card.

Yes, it has 4 LAN ports.

[INS-ANI]

i guess while
waitng fr
bsnl,my comp wil bcm outdatd.i wil rely on a nearby cafe ownr,2mbps,unlmtd,400bks.wat else u need

[Ricky]

i guess while
waitng fr
bsnl,my comp wil bcm outdatd.i wil rely on a nearby cafe ownr,2mbps,unlmtd,400bks.wat else u need


True true true ?

[Harvik780]

I am having a strange problem.My connection suddenly looses sync and my output power for downstream decreases from 19.8 DBm to 7.8 DBm.My SNR then drops to 6 DB from 18DB and suddenly after sometime i loose the link which just blinks and never comes.
Can anyone give me any idea of contacts of NIB in my area.

Edit : NIB is currently testing lines in my area with different modulations and speeds.I just checked my modem page and witnessed the automatic changes in modulation from ADSL2+ to G.DMT interleave with speed varing from 300kbps to 8064kbps.

[Cyrus_the_virus]

I am having a strange problem.My connection suddenly looses sync and my output power for downstream decreases from 19.8 DBm to 7.8 DBm.My SNR then drops to 6 DB from 18DB and suddenly after sometime i loose the link which just blinks and never comes.
Can anyone give me any idea of contacts of NIB in my area.

Edit : NIB is currently testing lines in my area with different modulations and speeds.I just checked my modem page and witnessed the automatic changes in modulation from ADSL2+ to G.DMT interleave with speed varing from 300kbps to 8064kbps.

I told you @harvik, just wait for some more time till they finish all the testing and trials and stop breaking your head over these marginal SNR changes till something is finalised.

[janitha]

Quote
"NIB is currently testing lines in my area with different modulations and speeds."

Boston,Newyork?

[Ricky]

@Harvik..

Where you live buddy ?

[gagandeep]

Today, BSNL has given advertisement about 8mbps Business plans in The Times of India (Delhi) on Page 32.
They have not mentioned anything about Home Plans and I even called their Customer Care at 1800 424 1600 and inquired about Home Plans, they said that there is no update yet.

Here are the details of 8mbps Business Plans.

Business 2000, 256kbps to 8mbps, Rs. 2000, 12gb limit, 70p per additional MB
Business 4000, 1mbps to 8mbps, Rs. 4000, 27gb limit, 50p per additional MB
Business 15000 2mbps to 8mbps, Rs. 15000, 125gb limit, 40p per additional MB

They don't have any Night Unlimited sort of thing in these plans and their Website is still not updated with this new Tariff.

[Tech_Wiz]

Even Since I moved to new place I am getting the "678" Remote Comp not responding error. Its 2-3 days now. wtf!!!!!!!

[gary4gar]

contact BSNL,its trouble from there side only

[Harvik780]

My brother just got his user name and password.And he cannot login to BSNL portal(the new one)cause BSNL babus did not create his ID.
Now i know how much i try it'll never be created.
BSNL KI JAI ho.

[Rockstar11]

Grrr aaj net speed low hai http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/14.gif

[the.kaushik]

Today I got a call from BSNL that they are going to give my connection this week. Previously i thought i will tell them NO (because they took hell lot of time ) as using the Reliance WiMax.. but after a horrible experience with them i thought that lets try BSNL also.
But after a 5 month wait today they are telling they cant give me Type4 modem but only Type1 modem. They told they will change it after 15 days.. What should i do? Will they really change else it will be use less for me as i want WiFi!

[Cyrus_the_virus]

as using the Reliance WiMax..

I guess you mean to say WiFi

[Wannabe_a_techie]

I finally got my Dataone connection....

but I came to know of it not from BSNL but from some guy from D-Link company! He offered to set-up the D-Link modem (cost quoted Rs. 1900) at my home.....I asked what about username/password from BSNL???

He replied that for testing the modem he will give a temporary username/password. Then he would give the number for BSNL which I should call and ask for my username/password.

He also dropped a hint that he was connected to BSNL in some way.

Sine I'm in a small town BSNL service is pathetic, and I know from friends that they don't supply the modem for broadband connections, so should I go for this D-link thing??

[gary4gar]

Today I got a call from BSNL that they are going to give my connection this week. Previously i thought i will tell them NO (because they took hell lot of time ) as using the Reliance WiMax.. but after a horrible experience with them i thought that lets try BSNL also.
But after a 5 month wait today they are telling they cant give me Type4 modem but only Type1 modem. They told they will change it after 15 days.. What should i do? Will they really change else it will be use less for me as i want WiFi!
you say two options

1) get a wifi adsl router from the market
2) get a modem from them & wait for them to give the wifi modem

I finally got my Dataone connection....

but I came to know of it not from BSNL but from some guy from D-Link company! He offered to set-up the D-Link modem (cost quoted Rs. 1900) at my home.....I asked what about username/password from BSNL???

He replied that for testing the modem he will give a temporary username/password. Then he would give the number for BSNL which I should call and ask for my username/password.

He also dropped a hint that he was connected to BSNL in some way.

Sine I'm in a small town BSNL service is pathetic, and I know from friends that they don't supply the modem for broadband connections, so should I go for this D-link thing??
well BSNL never gives connections though any kind of agents, it directly gives out connections. it looks out a fraud to me. first check out with your exchange guys. for more info check
http://bsnl.in/faq/faqans.php?paramCategory=BSNL%20Broadband
http://bsnl.in/service/dataone.htm
http://bsnl.in/service/dataone_tariff.htm

[tushdante]

I have been using bsnl night time free internet for the past two years to download stuff but recently i see that the speed reduces frm the usual 120-200kb/sec to just 4-5kb/sec. Its not always that bad but the same happened last night. I have recently installed a Netgear WGR614v7 router but i get really good speeds when i download stuff in the morning. Could this be a fault on BSNL side?

I have a HOME 1800:downloadspeed Upto 2 Mbps plan.

[Indranil92001]

I have been using bsnl night time free internet for the past two years to download stuff but recently i see that the speed reduces frm the usual 120-200kb/sec to just 4-5kb/sec. Its not always that bad but the same happened last night. I have recently installed a Netgear WGR614v7 router but i get really good speeds when i download stuff in the morning. Could this be a fault on BSNL side?

I have a HOME 1800:downloadspeed Upto 2 Mbps plan.


This same things happen in Kolkata too. During night Free Uses the speed automatically down to 15 Kbps at 2AM, after 1 hour or 45 minutes its increase to 85Kbps. Recently I watch this things. Maybe the Bsnl operator reduce the speed at night 2AM and increase the speed after morning 8AM.

[Cyrus_the_virus]

This same things happen in Kolkata too. During night Free Uses the speed automatically down to 15 Kbps at 2AM, after 1 hour or 45 minutes its increase to 85Kbps. Recently I watch this things. Maybe the Bsnl operator reduce the speed at night 2AM and increase the speed after morning 8AM.

lol.. that's because you are not the only one downloading in the night!! http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/21.gif

It's not the operators problem

[Indranil92001]

lol.. that's because you are not the only one downloading in the night!! http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/21.gif

It's not the operators problem

I think you dont know how mutch total bandwith have the BSNL at Kolkta to serve the Internet at the whole city. They have 500Mbps bandwith at Kolkata server station. So there is no problem with the user to downlod at night unless the BSNL Operator decrease the download speed manually at night after 2AM.

[Cyrus_the_virus]

I think you dont know how mutch total bandwith have the BSNL at Kolkta to serve the Internet at the whole city. They have 500Mbps bandwith at Kolkata server station. So there is no problem with the user to downlod at night unless the BSNL Operator decrease the download speed manually at night after 2AM.
I wasn't making fun of you mate, since you are new here, I'll tell you that I work with ISP's, so I know how all of this works out. It's not about how much bandwidth is available, it's about how many users are competing for the same bandwidth. I can assure you that there will be atleast 2500+ connection in kolkata alone that will be active trying to utilize the free period, with what you say is 500Mbps(don't know where you got that from), do the math yourself, and you'll know what the situation is.

[Wannabe_a_techie]

well BSNL never gives connections though any kind of agents, it directly gives out connections. it looks out a fraud to me. first check out with your exchange guys.

Yes I checked with them.

They said because of the shortage of modems they have given the contract (locally) to the D-Link company. Assured me that it was all legit.

How is this modem and is the price (Rs 1900) right?

[gary4gar]

Yes I checked with them.

They said because of the shortage of modems they have given the contract (locally) to the D-Link company. Assured me that it was all legit.

How is this modem and is the price (Rs 1900) right?
nopes the prices is way too high, dlink router should come for 1450/-
this a mumbai price so add atmost 200 to it, other wise you can buy it online:)
it works out way to cheaper;)
http://www.theitwares.com/routers/routers.htm

[Indranil92001]

@Cyrus_the_virus you working in ISP so you know the things very well ( If you working as a engineer ).So I dont need to explane you because I think you know this. Actually if the total band with is 500Mbps then only 100Mbps is use for the Net user , the dataone net user not for the Leased Line user.
When we connect to the net using user id and password each user id has set to a common service plan in the server. If I chose the service HOME 500 then My ID set in Home 500 plan. This each plan have set the upload and download limits. The Home user plan set upload and download limits 27kbps up and download 214 kbps ( in Kolkata ). So everyone in this plan get this speed when they are downloading. There is no problem if the all user downloading at the same time because total bandwith is 100Mbps until a authorized person make this 214 kbps to ****kbps. The person who working on it do understand what I try to say and why they slow down the download speed at night unlimited BSNL know this. I dont need to explane it here.

I dont post or reply but thats not mean I am new here. I only see what people saying and discussing.

[Cyrus_the_virus]

@Indranil, I'm having a hard time understanding what you said in the last post. However, the point is, BSNL doesn't decrease the download speed during the night, it's only the congestion that you see.

[praka123]

^even BSNL Engineers explained the same to me(also asked me to stick with huawei mt880 modem,i donno why :confused: ).bw congestion that is.
there are chances that due to large no. of ports opened for new dataone connections via NIB-II recently,so may be that too add as a reason for slow speeds.

[janitha]

nopes the prices is way too high, dlink router should come for 1450/-
this a mumbai price so add atmost 200 to it, other wise you can buy it online:)
it works out way to cheaper;)
http://www.theitwares.com/routers/routers.htm

Also available from Prime (Dlink DSL-502T) for Rs.1450 + Rs.150 shipping.
http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=179&category_id=40&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

I am also having very slow speeds with Dataone at times every day for last one week.

[the.kaushik]

I guess you mean to say WiFi No bro its wiMax

[Cyrus_the_virus]

No bro its wiMax

Is that right? and when did you start using the WiMax from reliance?

[din]

@Cyrus_the_virus

Reliance started WiMax in selected cities months back. Bangalore is one of em. But I heard a lot of people are complaining it is not good. May be coz its in intial stages, but heard it goes down like 2 day full etc !

[praka123]

everything which is supposed to be first launched in US or EU will be launched in India in future 8)

[cool_techie_tvm]

Offtopic :
Am also using reliance adsl broadnet connection at home...man it really sucks and guess what, the dslam is the building next to my house and i hardly ever get the adsl link. Am using their modem as my backup for my Dataone connection. My advice...dont ever go for it, GPRS is a better option.

[Ponmayilal]

I really do not know what is happening to BSNL Broadband connection.
Prior to the disconnection on 07 Nov 2007 the connection speeds as indicated by the modem were 2048/512Kbps.The downstream SNR was a consistent 22db and the connection was always stable and consistent with a speed of around 1Mbps.
The BSNL Commercial officer erroneously disconnected my BB connection,when what I had asked him in writing clearly was that he withdraw the BSNL rented modem as I had purchased my own modem.
After I bombarded them and kicked a lot of dust the BB connection was restored on 14th Nov 2007.

What I noticed immediately was that the connection speeds now indicated was around 5500/500Kbps and the low downstream noise margin of 6db.

So I had presumed that BSNL while increasing the speeds to upto 8Mbps was adopting the Rate adaptive ADSL implementation where from the feedback of the line noise behaviour the DSLAM fixes the optimal speed trying to keep the line noise margin at the default level of 6db after about a 10 day training period.

Now after almost 12 days I am finding that the whole connection has gone for a toss.

For the last three days while at times I get a reasonable speed of 1 Mbps, sooner or later and more frequently the speed drops to an abysmal 100kbps or even lower.

While the noise margins in the earlier part of this 15 day period was varying between 3db and 10db ( most of the time 6db ), and the speeds were varying, PPPoE connectivity was seldom lost. The noise margin now dips frequently to 0db:mad: and frequently PPPoE connectivity is lost. I am now at a loss:confused: and have registered my complaint with the Customer Care.

The service associate at the other end as usual tried to pass on the buck on the "private modem" used and tried to advise me to take the modem configuration from the BSNL staff (?????? !!!!!!!!! I feel like crying or should I laugh:confused: )After I raised my voice and shouted hell on him and denigrated his technical competence in the choicest words (but parlimentary), he began to listen. When I finally dished out the noise margin figures. he was surprised and told that as per BSNL doctrine it should be above 12db and he will register the complaint.OOOps, I had a one hour dialogue with him.

@cyrus the virus, what is your technical comment on this? Is BSNL really adopting the rate adaptive technology only to mess it up or is it not?

At one stage I did believe they are going ahead with the rate adaptive ADSL implementation but now I am not sure.

Even before you advised someone here before, to wait for the stabilisation period, I had decided to wait but only the worse seems to have happened.:D

[Cyrus_the_virus]

@cyrus the virus, what is your technical comment on this? Is BSNL really adopting the rate adaptive technology only to mess it up or is it not?

At one stage I did believe they are going ahead with the rate adaptive ADSL implementation but now I am not sure.

Even before you advised someone here before, to wait for the stabilisation period, I had decided to wait but only the worse seems to have happened.:D
See, ponmyilal, this is what I told, it's not going to be the same way as you read which was implemented in the UK. So, I never really thought there would be a so called '10day' stabilization period, I knew they would play havoc with the line till someone like you have a go at them.

Well, technically speaking, yes it could be the modem at fault as well, as I mentioned before most modems do support AnnexureB which is 8Mbps however, some modem/routers do need to br updated with their latest firmware. We have had several clients facing such issues. So, I would first advise you to make sure that the problem is not at your end by any means, which is again the process of isolation. So, go to the website of your modem/router manufacturer and see if you can get the lates firmware/drivers for them.

(This step is not necessary if it's only a dropping PPoE)
Next, make sure the line from the point of entry into your house upto your modem is not going through several joints, is not passing near electrical wiring/equipment etc.

Next, write a letter to the SD(or who ever is the tops at your exchange) stating what you have done and that it proves that there is not fault at your end and that if BSNL doesn't fix the issue within 72hrs(as prescribed by DoT) that you will file a case against BSNL and take the SD to the consumer court!

Next, just wait and watch as the magic happens. :D

[appu]

I have a problem
i am not been able to access the main dataone page to check my usage at all.
are anyone else too facing this problem

[Ponmayilal]

yep,@Cyrus, I did not anticipate such a quick response from you.:)
My Netgear DG834Gv3 replaced the BSNL MT800 modem on 10 Sep 2007 and from day one has been operating with the latest firmware (dated 05 Sep 2007)

I did not rush to surrender the MT800 to BSNL but chose to keep it with me for more than two and half months, just in case the Netgear gives any problem. But the Netgear was performing without any hitch all along and there was no difference in performance from that of MT800. Even the data provided by the two modems such as ADSL sync speeds,attenuation, noise margin etc., were almost the same.

Even after the connection was restored on 27 Nov 2007, I had the MT800 for three days till 30 Nov 2007. During this period I had noticed the change in the line statistics and erratic speeds, and I had double checked it with the MT800. Both showed the same results and erratic performance. I have the screen shots of the data from both the modems and had shown these to the JTO who visited me on 30 Nov 2007 to take back the MT800.( I had made sure that BSNL can’t play tricks and pass the buck on the Modem.)

I do not think that between 19 Nov 2007 and 27 Nov 2007 when I was without any BB connection, my internal wiring has deteriorated to such an extent to bring the noise margin down to 6 db from 22 db. The BSNL line ( a thick cable with many pairs) terminates on a telephone Rose just below the balcony outside and my internal wiring starts from there. ( it is not just a twist but secure connection . My two neighbours' connections are just twists there).There are no joints anywhere. In any case, I shall ask someone to climb and clean the bare ends and tighten them tom at the telephone rose just to make sure nothing is left on any pretext, as you have suggested. Sometimes the least expected do happen. (just like the CO disconnecting my BB connection that was working flawlessly and putting me to all these troubles)
And here is today’s screenshot .
1336
Please note that the ADSL line sync is not lost –it was never lost – but the WAN reading shows zero uptime – PPPoE lost. IE not able to fetch the speed test file coz connectivity is lost. The rest of the page I presume has been obtained from the cache.

Thanks Cyrus for propelling me to the cleanup act.Without that prop I wouldn’t have attempted to do it.:)

[Rockstar11]

@appu - yes same prob here. http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/7.gif

[gary4gar]

Well, technically speaking, yes it could be the modem at fault as well, as I mentioned before most modems do support AnnexureB which is 8Mbps however, some modem/routers do need to br updated with their latest firmware. We have had several clients facing such issues. So, I would first advise you to make sure that the problem is not at your end by any means, which is again the process of isolation. So, go to the website of your modem/router manufacturer and see if you can get the lates firmware/drivers for them.


whats this annexureB??
how can one check if his router supports this?
my router D-link GLB 502T gives the following modulations
NO_MODE
ADSL_G.dmt
ADSL_G.lite
ADSL_G.dmt.bis
ADSL_G.dmt.bis_DELT
ADSL_2plus
ADSL_2plus_DELT
ADSL_re-adsl
ADSL_re-adsl_DELT
ADSL_ANSI_T1.413
MULTI_MODE
ADSL_G.dmt.bis_AnxI
ADSL_G.dmt.bis_AnxJ
ADSL_G.dmt.bis_AnxM
ADSL_2plus_AnxI
ADSL_2plus_AnxJ
ADSL_2plus_AnxM
G.shdsl
IDSL
HDSL
SDSL
VDSL

[Cyrus_the_virus]

I do not think that between 19 Nov 2007 and 27 Nov 2007 when I was without any BB connection, my internal wiring has deteriorated to such an extent to bring the noise margin down to 6 db from 22 db.

Well, one thing that needs to be understood here is that it's not the same. Although your question is valid, if you look at it technically, it's not. I'll tell you why. Because, althought it's the same line, you used to have a higher SNR on the line when it worked fine and now, when a lower SNR has been introduced on your line, it doens't seem to be able to coupe up.

SNR is not something that changes only due to wiring, a set SNR is set at the Exchange and if your line is not able to transmit such low SNR values is when the connection will start dropping out.
Here is the trick of High speed lines, they can only increase the speed by decreasing the SNR but the trick is to find the best SNR to Speed ratio for the line which is normally done during the stabilization period. If the SNR is too high, you see a lower synch value and vice versa.

And from looking at the line attenuation of 51db, looks like your line is just inside the 3Km mark. Because 60db is the max that can assure you a stable connection. However, all the BSNL guys need to do is increase you SNR to a min of 8-12 which I assume should be ideal for your line, you should have a synch speed of approximately 4Mbps which should be your line's ideal values.

However, I must remind you that dropping PPoE can also be a completely unrelated issue. But you can't prove it to be some other problem unless you first sort out the SNR issue on the line which I believe should sort the dropping PPoE as well from my experience dealing with these kind of issue.

whats this annexureB??
how can one check if his router supports this?
my router D-link GLB 502T gives the following modulations

AnnexureB is not a modulation type. It's just a driver/firmware version. You won't be able to check that directly on your modem/router. But like I said before, many things which we don't need to break our head over are there and this is one of them, all you need to do is get the latest drivers/firmware and it will have all the support for the hight speed 8Mbps lines.;)

[gary4gar]

.

AnnexureB is not a modulation type. It's just a driver/firmware version. You won't be able to check that directly on your modem/router. But like I said before, many things which we don't need to break our head over are there and this is one of them, all you need to do is get the latest drivers/firmware and it will have all the support for the hight speed 8Mbps lines.;)

well there must be any way to find out?
maybe if one can telnet the router then:rolleyes:
gaurish@gaurish-desktop:~$ telnet 192.168.1.1
Trying 192.168.1.1...
Connected to 192.168.1.1.
Escape character is '^]'.

BusyBox on localhost login: root
Password:


BusyBox v0.61.pre (2006.06.30-13:40+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

# help

Built-in commands:
-------------------
. : bg break builtin cd chdir continue eval exec exit export
false fc fg hash help jobs kill local pwd read readonly return
set setvar shift times trap true type ulimit umask unset wait
# ls -l
drwxr-xr-x 1 4933 1262 224 Jun 30 2006 bin
drwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 0 Jan 1 1970 dev
drwxr-xr-x 1 4933 1262 347 Sep 13 2006 etc
drwxr-xr-x 1 4933 1262 542 Jun 30 2006 lib
dr-xr-xr-x 28 0 0 0 Sep 8 12:00 proc
drwxr-xr-x 1 4933 1262 139 Jun 30 2006 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 1 4933 1262 52 Jun 30 2006 usr
drwxr-xr-x 1 4933 1262 0 Sep 8 12:00 var
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 71680 Oct 30 2006 var.tar

BusyBox v0.61.pre (2006.06.30-13:40+0000) multi-call binary

Usage: busybox [function] [arguments]...
or: [function] [arguments]...

BusyBox is a multi-call binary that combines many common Unix
utilities into a single executable. Most people will create a
link to busybox for each function they wish to use, and BusyBox
will act like whatever it was invoked as.

Currently defined functions:
[, ash, busybox, cat, chgrp, chmod, chown, cp, date, dd, df, echo,
false, free, grep, hostname, id, ifconfig, init, insmod, kill,
ln, login, ls, lsmod, mkdir, modprobe, mount, mv, passwd, ping,
ps, pwd, reboot, rm, rmmod, route, sh, sleep, sync, tar, test,
touch, true, tty, umount, wget, whoami, yes

[praka123]

whaow 8) i am getting a new CPE(router-modem) tomorrow from bsnl :D I just complained am lacking usb option in MT 880(which is very stable!) am getting the modem for the new dataone connections which they are gonna give in bulk.

News for Malayalees(Kerala)
Hey,every exchange in Ernakulam district(perhaps all kerala) is gonna get broadband by Jan1 2008 told by Exchange JTO,though i cant believe it!well the JTO told that they are installing equipments in all remote exchanges near muvattupuzha. :p hehe! and they dont confirm this 8mbps speed from 1st of2008 :( now EV-DO is gonna be there in Muvattupuzha(thanks to...me for letting exchange authorities knowing this :twisted: )

[Cyrus_the_virus]

well there must be any way to find out?
maybe if one can telnet the router then:rolleyes:

I understand what you are trying to say, but like I mentioned, it's more or less to do with a driver version. We use it only for technical reference incase of driver updates. One place you might be able to find it is in the driver release notes or driver documentation and not the router. Because AnnexureB is to do with the driver itself, if you look up on the router, it will just give you the driver/firmware version, but if you need to find out if that driver/firware supports AnnexureB(Which happens to be just one out of many term used) you will need to check the driver release documentation and not the router/modem. Hope you understand what I'm saying. But I would really say, no need to break your head over this, just make sure you have the latest drivers/firmware.d

News for Malayalees(Kerala)
Hey,every exchange in Ernakulam district(perhaps all kerala) is gonna get broadband by Jan1 2008 told by Exchange JTO,though i cant believe it!well the JTO told that they are installing equipments in all remote exchanges near muvattupuzha. :p hehe! and they dont confirm this 8mbps speed from 1st of2008 :( now EV-DO is gonna be there in Muvattupuzha(thanks to...me for letting exchange authorities knowing this :twisted: )

Yeah, I guess this is part of the initiative to make Broadband Available in every school in kerala. BSNL rocks in extending technology to every corner at affordable prices.

[praka123]

^now airtel or tata bb,reliance will come with such an option?NEVER.that is why BSNL FTW!all others are restricting themselves to kochi city!damn diditos!

and BTW,from last monday onwards new set of dataone connections are given in major exchanges,they use another page to check their usage(forgot) etc new modems etc(btw,am getting one :D)

[NIGHTMARE]

@appu - yes same prob here. http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/7.gif


its work try another ip's

http://10.240.240.195/
http://10.240.43.216/
http://10.240.89.199/

[appu]

yup the problem was that my firewall was blocking it so i could not access it now its working
thnks

[Rockstar11]

its work try another ip's

http://10.240.240.195/
http://10.240.43.216/
http://10.240.89.199/

thanks

[thepirateboy]

hey do you guys know how to config siemens c2110 modem for BSNA dataone connection...i by mistake reseted it to default factory settings...

[appu]

Hey guys now i have another problem
from past few day my net has been sloggish and disconnects too often
is this problem faced by everyone......i live in Blore ...jayanagar
coz after seen earlier post i thought that maybe bsnl is also testing 8mb here too

[Rockstar11]

^ yes maybe 8 mbps duur nahi..http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/105.gif

[Ponmayilal]

^@ appu I have been having problems with BSNL BB (Bangalore ) since 27 Nov 2007 but for the past few days it has become acute with low speeds ( as low as 30 Kbps or even lower -- God knows) and frequent lost connectivity.

Today a linesman had tested my line and found nothing wrong that could warrant the abysmally low noise margins.

I have shot a warning email to the broadband guys (with copies to PGM, AGM(Public relations)), stating that if the problem is not rectified immediately,I shall haul BSNL before the Consumer forum, after giving them due notice of the same.

BTW can you post the line statistics such as ADSL sync speeds, line attenuation,SNR figures from your modem?

I am regularly monitoring the speeds
and emailing the BB guys.There has been absolutely no response from them.The last one I sent is this.
URL: http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html (http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html)
When: Fri Dec 14 17:12:57 IST 2007
Download: 38,296 bps
Upload: 114,600 bps
QOS: 68%
RTT: 862 ms
MaxPause: 1712 ms
Test #: 2988959

^@ appu I have been having problems with BSNL BB (Bangalore ) since 27 Nov 2007 but for the past few days it had become acute with low speeds ( as low as 90 Kbps) and frequent lost connectivity.

Today a linesman had tested my line and found nothing wrong that could warrant the abysmally low noise margins.

I have shot a warning email to the broadband guys (with copies to PGM, AGM(Public relations)), stating that if the problem is not rectified immediately,I shall haul them up before the Consumer forum, after giving them due notice of the same.

BTW can you post the line statistics such as ADSL sync speeds, line attenuation,SNR figures from your modem?

I am regularly monitoring the speeds
and emailing the BB guys.The last one I sent is this.
URL: http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html (http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html)
When: Fri Dec 14 17:12:57 IST 2007
Download: 38,296 bps
Upload: 114,600 bps
QOS: 68%
RTT: 862 ms
MaxPause: 1712 ms
Test #: 2988959

[Harvik780]

^^That double post pretty much shows that your having problems.

[Ponmayilal]

:grin: I don't know how it happened :confused:. I edited and saved it only to find it posted again:eek:

[Rockstar11]

http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html

myspeed test -
download - 34 kbps
upload -25 kbps
BSNL dataone 2 mbps
plan - home1000

Main Rou http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/20.gif Ya Hasu http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/21.gif, Karu Main Kya Karu… ...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/7.gif

[Sunny1211993]

^^
bhai tu toh fooot fooot ke ro.
34kbps on 2mbps line?????

[Rockstar11]

^^ haan bhai
abhi bsnl kuch lafde kar raha hai..http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/14.gif

[gary4gar]

http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html

myspeed test -
download - 34 kbps
upload -25 kbps
BSNL dataone 2 mbps
plan - home1000

Main Rou http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/20.gif Ya Hasu http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/21.gif, Karu Main Kya Karu… ...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/7.gif
test again:)
maybe on other site like speedtest.net

[Rockstar11]

speedtest.net

server : mumbai
DL - 1660 kb/s
UL - 345 kb/s

[Ponmayilal]

Yep, even when my net crawls and stutters at an abysmal 30Kbps, the BSNL Broadband tester on their webpage (from the Local server) zooms and proclaims a download speed of 2750Kbps. Fantastic. But it is practically of no use to me when my browser stops dead waiting to open thinkdigit.com for eternity.(happened just a while ago):( And I got a very amusing speed in my Speed tester 1.8Kbps!!!!!!!!! before my browser said goodbye for the next five minutes :D

[NIGHTMARE]

speedtest.net

server : mumbai
DL - 1660 kb/s
UL - 345 kb/s





now its ok

[Ponmayilal]

The downstream noise margin @ 0217 hrs today was 12 db and these are the speedtest results
URL: http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html (http://myspeed.visualware.com/speedtest/speedtestjs.html)
When: Sat Dec 15 02:17:16 IST 2007
Download: 1,119,144 bps
Upload: 426,576 bps
QOS: 88%
RTT: 355 ms
MaxPause: 274 ms
Test #: 2989042
The server from which this speed test is carried out is situated @Dulles, Virginia, USA.
It is prudent to stick to one speed test site so as to keep the route traced the same for a comparative analysis of the speed at different times.

And since most of the servers which we log on to are situated in USA it makes sense to choose any one server there.
I have now downloaded and installed Visual Route 2008 (free to try for 15 days) from
http://download.visualware.com/networkmonitoring/index.html
to check out where exactly the bottleneck occurs when the speeds are low.Hope to fix the culprit in the next one or two days insha Allah:)
Here is a sample trace
1345

[arnab2kool]

Hello all,

Its strange, really strange. Another victim of BSNL Broadband (well usually get 4-5 kbps at nights, but still BROADBAND). I am in Siliguri, West Bengal. The speed really crawls, takes ages just to open the Digit Forum! What about you guys? Is there any solution for this? Really man, I am frustrated. Is there any way out? I am really in a mood to kick their balls HARD.

Thank you.

[Rockstar11]

^^^ are tum digit forum ki baat kar rahe ho.. yaha to kabhi kabhi google site bhi nahi chalti....itni low speed milti hai auar DC bhi ho jata hai...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/2.gif pareshan kar diya hai BSNL ne http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/s10.gif

[Indranil92001]

Hello all,

Its strange, really strange. Another victim of BSNL Broadband (well usually get 4-5 kbps at nights, but still BROADBAND). I am in Siliguri, West Bengal. The speed really crawls, takes ages just to open the Digit Forum! What about you guys? Is there any solution for this? Really man, I am frustrated. Is there any way out? I am really in a mood to kick their balls HARD.

Thank you.

Last few days I face same problem in night unlimited, But now I get good speed at night unlimeted. I am in Kolkata, West Bengal

[appu]

^^^ are tum digit forum ki baat kar rahe ho.. yaha to kabhi kabhi google site bhi nahi chalti....itni low speed milti hai auar DC bhi ho jata hai...http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/2.gif pareshan kar diya hai BSNL ne http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/s10.gif

same here too dude maybe like last time they may be testing 8mb now as they were doing a year ago when they tested 2mb

[Brave_Hunt]

Hey guys my old Huwei SmartAX MT880 modem broke down so I bought a new one from BSNL this one is UT Starcom UT300RTU but, I'm having a problem with this modem that when I start the modem and on the pc and then try to connect It won't let me in the first place! I keep getting a message saying 'Connecting to WAN miniport PPPOE' untill I restart my pc. I'm using ethernet yet since my old one only had ethernet support and I'm even kinda used to It. My ethernet is Atheros. Any suggestion to shoot this trouble? I haven't tried USB yet since this one has the option.

[Harvik780]

Check the modem settings page and see it the wan settings are configured properly.

[sabret00the]

Need the link to download latest firmware for UTSTARCOM WA3002-g1 Wireless ADSL Router. Does anyone face Page cannot be displayed issues with this modem/router in Windows XP?

[arnab2kool]

Last few days I face same problem in night unlimited, But now I get good speed at night unlimeted. I am in Kolkata, West Bengal

Thats nice. But How I can get the same? Is there any way?

Also how to access the modem settings? Is there any way, if I modify modem settings I can get high speeds?

Thank you.

[Mrinal Mohit]

guys, since morning, i'm not able to access sites like Google, Indian Rail etc. Please help. They are not blocked on my PC. I can access this Forum, Live Search, WikiP etc..

[sabret00the]

guys, since morning, i'm not able to access sites like Google, Indian Rail etc. Please help. They are not blocked on my PC. I can access this Forum, Live Search, WikiP etc..

At times even my UTSTARCOM WA3002-g1 Wireless ADSL modem cum Router from BSNL blocks connections to bank and other secured sites in XP...but everything works fine with Vista...I really need to upgrade the firmware of my router but not able to find any site to download the firware.

[gagandeep]

guys, since morning, i'm not able to access sites like Google, Indian Rail etc. Please help. They are not blocked on my PC. I can access this Forum, Live Search, WikiP etc..

I was also not able to access but I can access now.

[praka123]

today from 9.30 AM onwards am troubled with slow speed in most sites.few sites though loads fast.I donno whether it is opendns or dataone.mostly dataone is the culprit.

[janitha]

I have been experiencing dial up like speeds every now and then, for nearly a fortnight. Other times it is normal.

[din]

I am having a terrible time. Dataone down most of the time. When it is up, the speed is excellent. Not sure whom to contact. any ideas from where I will get some help ?

Symptoms - sometimes the link LED blinks sometimes it becomes stable. In both cases, no internet.

Place - Alappuzha, Kerala. Scheme Unlimited 256. Modem - Black one - Siemens.

Tried many things suggested by the members, like giving direct connection etc, but no use. The line from exchange to home is gully underground cable, phone works all the time.

[janitha]

So it seems there is some problem, at least in Kerala!

[The_Devil_Himself]

@din: your line is highly unstable.I too faced similar problems with 2mbps when it used to work @ 2mbps for 4-5 hours per day flawlessly but downtime after it.

Whats your connection speeds?if its 2mbps then try getting your line changed or consider degrading back to 256kbps.BTW distance from exchange and snr ratio?

[din]

No, I was having problem from beginning itself. I got connection on 15th last month (Nov). Almost one month now, and I could access net through Dataone only 15 days or so. Some days full down, some days down for 3-4 hrs :(

Tried toll free number. They are telling thats for Bangalore only. Called SDE, he said line is ok, called the tech guy whos doing these things for BSNL, not much help.

Not sure whom to contact or what to check, helpless again :(

@Devil

I am on Home 256 unlimited scheme (UL 900 Plus ?)

Remote Line Attn 43.0 dB
Remote SNRMargin 12 dB

Thats is what you meant ?

Also, please explain what you meant yb line unstable. Also, I am getting very good speeds when it is up. So it is like, when internet is there, good speeds, when its down, nothing at all. I mean no speed issues when it is up.

Speed, I am getting very close to 256 itself.

Also, what can be done if SNR is very low ? Any solutions from our end or BSNL will solve it ?

Oh, I forgot, I am about 5.5 KM from Exchange, is that the issue ? But I know two guys who are like 6 or 7 KM form exchange, they are getting BB without any break o problems..

[Harvik780]

You have been tricked by BSNL for so many days.I suggest you send them a letter and action will be immediately taken.
Warn them that you want refunds for the downtime.They are not god send that they have a reason to not give refunds.
In the letter mention technical details.
Send the copy of the letter to DE and one to SDO.

[din]

Last post was made using TATA indicom CDMA. Now, back in Dataone ! Not sure how long. Goes down unexpectedly :(

[The_Devil_Himself]

:(

@Devil

I am on Home 256 unlimited scheme (UL 900 Plus ?)

Remote Line Attn 43.0 dB
Remote SNRMargin 12 dB

Thats is what you meant ?
snr ratio is too low.I have a snr ratio of 40+ on my 256kbps connection.

Also, please explain what you meant yb line unstable. Also, I am getting very good speeds when it is up. So it is like, when internet is there, good speeds, when its down, nothing at all. I mean no speed issues when it is up.
Told you buddy I used to face the same problems with 2mbps--when net was there I used to get 2mbps speeds no problem but only for 4-5 hours each day otherwise dissconnections.So no speeds issues at all.



Also, what can be done if SNR is very low ? Any solutions from our end or BSNL will solve it ?
yep,the the copper at lines joints gets oxidised(greenish susbtance) after sometime,so call them and ask them to change your line.It should help.bribing some 50-100 rupees to the local lineman will get things done faster.

Oh, I forgot, I am about 5.5 KM from Exchange, is that the issue ? But I know two guys who are like 6 or 7 KM form exchange, they are getting BB without any break o problems..
Yea at 5km you should get 256kbps without any problems.

[din]

Told you buddy I used to face the same problems with 2mbps--when net was there I used to get 2mbps speeds no problem but only for 4-5 hours each day otherwise dissconnections.So no speeds issues at all.

How did you get it solved ? Are you getting net full time now ?

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^yep,I complained too much and they degraded by speeds to 288kbps(288 sounds weird),now my connection is super stable(no DC even for a single second).I am happier now atleast there are no DC.

[din]

@The_Devil_Himself

Hmm, lil confused. You were on 2 Mbps and when u changed to 256 / 288, it became stable and ok. I am on 256, so theres no option for me to downgrade :(

Also, how to get the usage history ? I tried the data.bsnl.in link, but it shows the websphere page and nothing in that !

Edit - Oops, seems I checked wrong link, lemme chk again ...

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^yea thats why asked your speeds.If you were on 2mbps then degrading back to 256kbps would have helped,but now.....

anyways a sure shot way is to get the line changed,and consider spending some bucks on some good quality wiring from the the pole to your router.Ask Harvik780 about it,he did something like this iirc.

lol can't help with bsnl link cos I use MTNL.it sux though but i got no other option.

[din]

Oh ok, but the line is fully underground cable from exchange to home. Will they change the cable ? Ok, will ask them anyway.

Also, usage check link is

http://p3hosting.bsnl.in:9080/BroadBandCustomerPortal/ ?

Not working for me :(

[The_Devil_Himself]

^^underground right to your home?thats strange.

Well mine is like underground from exchange to nearby that box kind of thing then the poles and then finally to houses.So its like 2-3 poles between me and the underground wires.

will they change the cable?well why not I say if something is wrong with it.And told you handing over 50-100 bucks to local lineman should help a lot.I know this aint right but It saves all the hassles.

that link doesn't work here also,maybe cos I use MTNL.



lol your dual posting clearly shows your connection is in bad shape.

[din]

Yes, from exchange to home, no overhead lines. Fully underground cable form exchange till home. There were some old connections (not mine, neighbor etc), and recently they changed those also to UG cable.

@Harvik780

I see you are online :) Any suggestions / comments on my issue ?

[The_Devil_Himself]

looks like my overhead line is better then your UG line.lol.

well i dont know what you can do now.maybe you should still try to get your line changed.

[Ponmayilal]

After I sent a warning email that I will haul BSNL to the consumer forum, an SDE from the BB section called me and after ascertaining the problem ( which in any case was intimated to them by email a number of times ) said that looks like I have been connected to a "dead pair" of lines and he will inform the exchange to do the needful.I also received an email that the exchange has been sounded. Today being Sunday nothing has happened.

@din your problem more or less looks to be a similar problem a dead pair of lines.

In my case as already posted , the BSNL linesman the day before yesterday had checked my line and had reported that nothing is wrong.

I do not know who is wrong and who is right.Irrespective, if the problem is not resolved by BSNL in the next two days I am determined to shoot a notice to PGM BSNL asking him to show cause before I file a complaint before the consumer forum.

Now going technical here is the screenshot of the route to thinkdigit.com server in USA.

1352

The international gateway being used is that of Bharti Televentures in New Delhi.

Inbetween the second NIB node 59.96.192.1 my immediate gateway IP address, and the fourth NIB node 218.248.255,there is an unknown node , contributing 100% packet loss while the fourth node itself contributes 80% packet loss. None of the other nodes show any packet loss.

What is the significance of this? Anyone?

@cyrus the virus r u watching?

[Cyrus_the_virus]

Inbetween the second NIB node 59.96.192.1 my immediate gateway IP address, and the fourth NIB node 218.248.255,there is an unknown node , contributing 100% packet loss while the fourth node itself contributes 80% packet loss. None of the other nodes show any packet loss.

What is the significance of this? Anyone?

@cyrus the virus r u watching?
Yes, I'm here looking at all the issues going on. However, the tracert result you have doesn't make sense.. do you know why? How can you have another 80% loss after you have a 100% loss? If there is a 100% loss, the packets will not proceed any further. What I would advise you to do is do a direct tracert from the command prompt that is:

tracert 198.65.131.97

paste those results here. I'll be able to interpret them better.

Also do this and paste the results as well

ping www.google.com -n 50
ping 198.65.131.97 -n 50

[Ponmayilal]

Thanks @cyrus. Since I am retiring now, I shall do what you have mentioned later and try to post perhaps tom.

Coming to the packet loss , they are actually not the data packets from the site that are lost. In that case I will not perhaps be able to access the site as you have rightly said.

What I understand from the Visual route manual is that their server pings all the nodes and reports the packet loss.It also says that some servers could have been firewalled not to accept such pings.I am not a networking expert, but if this data is not in someway significant, why at all should this data be presented?
And why that unknown node?(Visual route cannot find the ip address of the node)

[Harvik780]

din
I also had instability issues with BSNL broadband.What i did was followed what choto said.Write a letter to the DE and SDO explaining your problem and slight technical details and also urge them to give you a refund for not correcting the problem within 3 days as specified by TRAI.
U can also go to ur local exchange and confirm from the people at the exchange via there systems whether or not ur line is faulty.They will ask ur telephone number for checking the line.
For a 256Kbps connection 27-30Db SNR is acceptable.For a 2Mbps connection anything above 12Db is acceptable.
Also confirm if your modulation is set to ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+ or ect.
Different modulations have different guidelines of SNR margin.
Whenever ur given a new connection the line has to first stabilize in 10-15 days.This time you might not get ur user name and pass but the exchange might conduct tests to see if ur line has any stability issues.
U can also check to see if forcing alternate modulation from ur modems settings page helps getting ur SNR higher.
For me G.DMT was unstable so i forced my modulation to T1.413

[Ponmayilal]

^^ @ Cyrus here is the screenshot of tracert 198.65.131.97.In my first attempt nodes 3 and 4 did not get the IP address and said request timed out.
1353

[Brave_Hunt]

Check the modem settings page and see it the wan settings are configured properly.

And what exactly should be the WAN setting? I've tried my leval but still no progress. :confused:

[gary4gar]

its my results( i am posting it as a sample as i don't have any problem with BSNL yet)
0 donwtime in past 3months:cool:
YAY!
gaurish@gaurish-desktop:~$ traceroute 198.65.131.97
traceroute to 198.65.131.97 (198.65.131.97), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.770 ms 0.990 ms 1.599 ms
2 59.95.160.1 (59.95.160.1) 36.608 ms 38.403 ms *
3 * * *
4 * * *
5 203.101.65.233 (203.101.65.233) 109.913 ms * *
6 * 125.21.167.74 (125.21.167.74) 90.846 ms 88.473 ms
7 217.6.50.109 (217.6.50.109) 336.827 ms 338.898 ms 340.763 ms
8 p4-1-3-2.r23.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.145) 363.803 ms p4-1-3-0.r23.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.5) 365.051 ms *
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 * * as-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.9) 347.480 ms
12 xe-1-2.r03.stngva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.19) 348.939 ms 350.735 ms 353.815 ms
13 mg-2.c20.stngva01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.26.204) 361.329 ms 364.227 ms *
14 * * *
15 logistics20.com (198.65.131.97) 348.738 ms * *

[Harvik780]

And what exactly should be the WAN setting? I've tried my leval but still no progress. :confused:
Should look like this-
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9977/wanvv9.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wanvv9.jpg)

[Abhishek_sharma360]

Hey i just got my broadband connection[startup plan] but my one is in bsnl.in domain rather than in dataone.in is there any difference.....plus when i check usage it doesnt show me which plan m using but only time and ruppees i spent.

And is there any method to change plan electronically??

[Cyrus_the_virus]

^^ @ Cyrus here is the screenshot of tracert 198.65.131.97.In my first attempt nodes 3 and 4 did not get the IP address and said request timed out.

lol... @ponmayilal, you seem to like to convert pretty much everything to PDF.. lol.. anyways.. post the ping results too plz.. coz like you said.. some servers will not show up as pinging and trace routing commands are disabled on them due to security reasons.

Just copy the result you get and paste is as a code here like @gary has done.
do this:

ping 198.65.131.97 -n 100
ping www.google.com -n 100

Just paste the last couple of lines including the one that say how many packets send, recieved and lost.

[Ponmayilal]

[quote=Cyrus_the_virus]Just copy the result you get and paste is as a code here like @gary has done.
do this:
boooooo.............I donno how to,:oops: unless someone gives a tut on it

[din]

@Ponmayilal - if you are in Windows

Start -> Run -> Command -> ping www.google.com -n 100 -> press enter - > check result

If you are on Linux, open a terminal window, and do the same.

I guess that is what Cyrus meant.

[Ponmayilal]

ya, I know that :smile: . But how to cut and paste that as a code in the post? mebbe I will now get nOOb of the week or month or year:D

[Tech_Wiz]

I am having frequent DC problems. Cant play online games due to this. It DCes like every 10 mins :(

What to do? System COnfig is my Sig. I am using Rs. 250 Plan with BSNL Modem.
Chinchwad Pune

[praka123]

@din:just check from which core server are you connected.try below command from Linux
pppoe-discovery
also my traceroute:

prakash@localhost:~$ traceroute 198.65.131.97
traceroute to 198.65.131.97 (198.65.131.97), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 59.93.0.1 (59.93.0.1) 14.228 ms 21.536 ms 29.641 ms
2 218.248.255.58 (218.248.255.58) 81.601 ms 89.712 ms 97.805 ms
3 218.248.255.58 (218.248.255.58) 105.404 ms 113.521 ms 121.387 ms
4 125.17.0.157 (125.17.0.157) 377.563 ms 385.405 ms 393.269 ms
5 125.21.167.74 (125.21.167.74) 396.692 ms 404.787 ms 412.416 ms
6 217.6.50.109 (217.6.50.109) 458.942 ms 342.785 ms 339.936 ms
7 p4-1-3-2.r23.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.145) 343.057 ms 350.689 ms p4-1-3-0.r23.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.5) 363.714 ms
8 p64-1-0-0.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.254) 360.267 ms 367.635 ms 375.739 ms
9 ae-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.26) 378.910 ms 386.787 ms 394.889 ms
10 as-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.9) 415.067 ms 422.930 ms 430.539 ms
11 xe-1-2.r03.stngva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.19) 433.472 ms 441.577 ms 449.396 ms
12 mg-2.c20.stngva01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.26.204) 336.847 ms 336.080 ms 335.837 ms
13 161.58.156.189 (161.58.156.189) 338.752 ms 346.851 ms 354.222 ms
14 logistics20.com (198.65.131.97) 367.510 ms 375.834 ms 383.707 ms

[cool_techie_tvm]

ya, I know that :smile: . But how to cut and paste that as a code in the post? mebbe I will now get nOOb of the week or month or year:D

After pinging, right click on the command window and select Select All. The whole command window will be highlighted. Now press Enter so that the whole highlighted thingy is copied. Open up a text document and paste it. Thats it. :)

[Ponmayilal]

^^ I am doing all that. I mark and select only the required data, copy it to the clipboard and paste it to a Word document . all fine. Now the final step How to I put it in this post as a code just like Gary and Praka have done. Right now I am pasting it direct from the clipboard here

Pinging 198.165.131.97 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 198.165.131.97:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

[din]

Thats teh code tag I think

[ code ] place your text here [ /code ] (remove the space between ] ) will make it

place your text here

[Ponmayilal]

Thanks @din for giving me the vital clue. I introduced the code from the toolbar taking your clue.

@Cyrus here is the data the way you wanted


Tracing route to logistics20.com [198.65.131.97] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 36 ms 37 ms 35 ms 59.92.160