Nokia versus Sony Ericsson

[Tapomay]

No NOKIA, no SE. To me it's MOTOROLA. The E398 offers best value for money, is feature rich and build quality is also great. It really rocks.

[drgrudge]

drgrudge,I am yet to see a more biased person then u..... I also laud Nokia's effort at bringing out new models,But "snake","leaf and all are just 2 much!
Hmm.. I never said I am just and not biased. In terms of keypads, dont tell SE makes a better ones. They have the most awful keypads. Atleast IMHO.


Snake/leaf model type keypads are not made keeping ypur like and taste in mind, if someone likes thwm they will continue with the same, or atleast they will avoid in their future releases.
Beauty (and likewise looks) is in the eyes of the beholder. Never ind if you like them, see the quality.My friend has 7620 and I personally dont like the looks but the keypad make and built is good and that's the one which matter wrt this arguements.




and yeah I have used 7600 too and so have many other people who think it was pure junk nothin else!and I think that 700 has a great keypad much better then most nokia's!
Again, what others and you think abt the keypads.



one more think. u kno 3230. well the keypad on that model is the worst nokia has ever given>the softkeys are rigid s hell.Even moto c350 is better.............
Yeah I know abt 3230, I have done a review and posted here:
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25116

Keypads:
It's in here that this phone fails to impresses. The keys are placed close to each other and too rigid.

Also it got no volume controls like what phones has. This keypad also reminds us of the SE phones keypads. The visibility of the keys also an issue. It's small that we might not see them. The upper row of menu softkeys is too small and rigid for comfortable usage. IT actually has two different type of keys, the control keys (at the top) and the digit/numericals keys.


However the keys are soft and gentle and well illuminated in the dark by the backlit light.

[SWEET SNEHA]

NOKIA is ahead by only 2 votes
I luv SE(not typing an essay 4 that)

and SE lovers,vote 4 SE

[mobilegeek]

Now its ahead by 3 votes .. :D .. drgrudge one more haaaaaan

I JUST SAY NOKIA RULZ ...

[infra_red_dude]

i'm a hardcore sony ericsson fan! i swear by SE!

but frankly, i like the top end models of Nokia. they are serious business phones. SE has only the P900 series which are quite expensive. the low end models and mid range models of nokia are pure s**t. exhorbitantly expensive!

SE phones offer value for money anyday and are the best multimedia phones available. the only drawback is the lack of expandable memory in certain phones.

[shivaranjan.b]

i have seen here k700i being compared to 6600.

I think k700i should not be compared to 6600 coz n6600 is smartphone and there are many things which 6600 can do and k700i cannot do.

In phone arena only looks do not matter.

Being symbian n6600 way ahead than k700i

I admit that SE makes good looking phones..

But nokia is also not that bad...

For me below 10k SE rules and i think SE way behind nokia in terms of smart phone..


Regards..

[drgrudge]

^^
We are forced to compare as both cost almost the same and 6600 is a smartphone and k700i is not.


100 votes and 50-50 for both :D Guys keep voting (if you have not), lets see who is the winner.

[shivaranjan.b]

i forgot the fact that both cost the same.

if this is the case then n6600 is clear winner and k700i is waste of money...

Regards...

[infra_red_dude]

its not a waste of money dude. multimedia and imaging enthusiasts wil prefer SE (k700i) anyday while the more business minded ppl will perfer Nokia (6600).

[shivaranjan.b]

Good Joke...

lol :lol: What will imaging and multimedia enthusiasts will do when k700i gives only 41 mb and no expansion?? :lol: :lol:

And it even doesn't have a megapixel camera for the imaging and multimedia enthusiasts.


The functionality of n6600 can be increased to a great extent because it is symbian.

So once again i say that n6600 is clear winner when compared to the K700i.


Regards....

[blu_6779]

My take:- The k700i has a better screen, has better sound output, supports mp4, has better bluetooth (which is horribly slow on the 6600), fm radio, has a better joystick (I can't use the 6600 joystick for more than 10 mins), has a smoother OS, has a sleeker shape.

The 6600 supports OGG, has expandable memory, has lots of apps, is a smartphone.

I'll go for the k700i :-).

[drgrudge]

^^
Joystick in 6600 is really good, IMO.
Why did you not tell abt the :
bad camera pixs in the night mode?
bad keypad?


Atleast keypad must be good in 6600 (according to you) and you are gonna use the keypads more than the joystick.

[blu_6779]

I find the night pix on the k700i disgusting. I don't know about the 6600 because i've not seen pix in the dark. The keypads of both phones are okay for me coz I'm good with my thumbs :-).

[Milkshake]

We are ahead by 2 votes(SE)

[sagar_coolx]

can any one post the same pics.taken with diff phones {nokia and s.e.} so dat we can compare?
also i guess the sound of nokia is cra@ppy.
in 3230 it is.even the fm sounds better than mp3 {128 kbps}

[Milkshake]

Yeah sound in all NOKIA are shIttY.

I owned 6600 & mp3 playback sucked.
dunno abt fm as it was lacking it

And keypads........................ :puke:

thats y i switcthed to k700i

[sagar_coolx]

k 700 i has ju 1 drawback
VGA camera.

[shivaranjan.b]

Sound in nokia 6630 and 6680 are amazing and quite good.

Regards...

[kkeng]

k 700 i has ju 1 drawback
VGA camera.

do u thnk thats the only drawback it has?
what abt memory expansion?
mp3 player will become no use bcoz of that..

[Tatti Prashad]

but 700i is better than 6600 nigga

[infra_red_dude]

check this thread. i've posted photos clicked wid my k700i in almost all the possible modes:

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31315&highlight=

[Susu Ka Jal]

The conditions has changed

SE is winning............................

[QwertyManiac]

On wat grounds r u sayin that ?

I feel that the quality of the cam on SE's r better than nokia's

Rest all depends on usage, nothing else...

[SWEET SNEHA]

SE is leading.......................
SE is leading.........................

:happy:

[Milkshake]

SE is better than nokia

[coolendra]

guys i think Sony Ericsson phones rock in a sense that they offer more features at lesser price

GO SE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mobilegeek]

Nokia has more features .. n more reliable ... phones

SE battery sucks ...

[infra_red_dude]

Nokia has more features .. n more reliable

i don't agree wid this! how can u say "nokia" has more features and is more reliable without mentioning which phone are we talking about and wot features are we talking about? its just like saying "intel" has more freature than "amd" and is more reliable!!!!

SE battery sucks ...

yep, i agree. i'd rather say that SE battery is average (it lasts 1.5 dayz in my case wid normal usage)..but yeah Nokia phones' battery backup is excellant!!! lasts more than average time!!!

[lighthouse911]

Those who are saying nokia phones have better bat life do chack out Se K750i and s700i

both have better battlife then the "latest" nokia 6230i!

and do u know 6230i was supposed to take on K750i??

hell,it is damn funny.

by the way now a days my k700i goes fr 3-4 days with normal usage.Fr all those whi want to improve batt llife go get ur FW updated...

[infra_red_dude]

and do u know 6230i was supposed to take on K750i??

never knew that!!!!

[PinKLip]

SE is leading.......................
SE is leading.........................

:happy:

I am too :P :P :P

[icecoolz]

Nokia not releasing the N90 series of phones will hit them. SE's Walkman series is already getting to be immensely popular. I was defenitely looking forward to the N series however that has been deffered. Walkman is gonna walkaway esp with the impending W900i release . Find out more here:

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=in&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pp1_1_1&zone=pp&lm=pp1&pid=10333

[tinku dhar]

hey here,

guys since i hve got nokia n-gage qd,
i still like SE coz it has got its own style and as
it is of (SONY) its the best ...

i will go for SE

regards

[.:deadman:.]

I luv SE

thay are the champs

and aftr SE is leading no NOKIA luver is posting

deadman is back

[comrade]

i have no dislike for SE....
but model frm nokia such as 6600,6260,6630 are great and very much competitive to SE and better in some ways.
but low end models from nokia can no way be compared with SE's quality and performance.

[bendre123]

even i use nokia 6610i
i really like sony ericsson's mobile.
i think they outplayed nokia in low end model.
but in higher level model nokia have little bit edge
over SE because of variety of its model

[lighthouse911]

actually it is the section of "multimedia phones" where SE is the leader with w800i and all... As far as smartphones are concerned I guess nokia is better

[infra_red_dude]

actually it is the section of "multimedia phones" where SE is the leader with w800i and all... As far as smartphones are concerned I guess nokia is better

absolutely!! this is wot i've been saying all the time! but yes, SE phones are asthetically very pleasing!!!

[Aniruddh]

at this point of time NOKIA is the best as far as i m concerned but SE is not far behind catchin up nokia.i really love SE but nokia is more user friendly.

[infra_red_dude]

at this point of time NOKIA is the best as far as i m concerned but SE is not far behind catchin up nokia.i really love SE but nokia is more user friendly.

yes, nokia menus are more user friendly. hey buddy, we share the same name but sans a "d"!!! me called ANi tho!! :D

[xenkatesh]

Nokia = good resale value, very few feature (comparing to SE)
Sony Erricson = bad resale value , loaded with awesome features.. :Pmy choice isalways SE SE SE :P :P :P :P

[the_sweet_poision]

nokia is my choice :D because of good after sale service in north
ya in looks sonyericsson is unbeatable

[wiz]

hhmmm sonyericsson has got more votes than NOKIA,this is something unusual.Nokia is my choice but sonyericsson is catching it.

[coolendra]

wow nice to see that Sony Ericsson is leading..........

Go SE !!!!

[nirubhai]

i like se coz i never get bored with it. se is fun! i feel nokia very boring.
i won't say nokia is bad... nokia is good... but only as phone...
if you want more than that, look for other brands.
even moto has got good models. but personally i feel very satisfied with se!
you need to get out of the nokia mania... get out of the pond and you will see the world.

[QwertyManiac]

Hey, a query plz...

Is the new entrant (indian)
SE k600i a good buy ?
does it have mem expansion ?

[infra_red_dude]

i personally don't like the design. its got 33mb internal memory but no expansion possible!

[Aniruddh]

yea infra red right k600 looks pathetic.no it dont have a expansion.
@infra even me called ANNI :wink:.

[QwertyManiac]

thnx for the info ! ;) helped, was considering buying it... :p

[infra_red_dude]

well dude, but a k750i instead putting in a bit more. k600i is sheer waste of money. i mean tho features are good, good cam and great audio quality but the price aint justified!

[spidyweb]

what would u say abt Se K750i?
witin 18k,its got everythin'
like u say what u need it l provide(it has provided so tht u cnt say "yeh dil mange more")
and think abt the accessories it provides
NOKIA cant provide it in the near future in tht price

[escape7]

Nokia has a better battery life & an easy to use interface (my personal experience). I find the camera of nokia better but the sound quality of se phones (later ones) are good.

[nirubhai]

Nokia has a better battery life & an easy to use interface (my personal experience). I find the camera of nokia better but the sound quality of se phones (later ones) are good.
totally disagreed on the camera point. please prove with reference.

[infra_red_dude]

i agree SE is always ahead in the multimedia field and the cam quality on similar category phones of nokia.

[dOm1naTOr]

@ infra_red_dude

Things were in favour of SE until now. The newer series from Nokia like 6630,3230,6680 nd 6681 is superior in image quality(of cam). They have better reception nd more flexibility in software field.
Only K750i nd W800i can match up with Nokia in terms of Camera.

[infra_red_dude]

hmmm kinda. but comparing the phones, 6630 has a 1.3mp cam so does 3230. compare them wid the equivalent contender thats the s700i and you find that audio quality on s700i is better than any of those.

compare 6600 and k700i and theres simply no comparison on the multimedia front. k700i's cam is better. 6680/1 are good competators for the k750i while there's no comparison for w800i (tho its the same as k750i wid some tweaks). compare 6610i and T610 and you find t610 is better. compare k50xi and there you haf it...no phone in the same category from nokia...

i still say that only the high end phones from nokia are worth their buck. audio and camera are, yes, dramatically improved. but for lower end phones...its simply not worth it... but the best of the lot is the N6630. i just love this phone..got really decent features except for the fact that there's no built in FM.

yeah of corz the mid range phones from SE from the "memory effect"!!! ;) ;)...no expandable memory....

[speedyguy]

dear nokia fanatics...plz checkout latest compairisn between se n nokia....se kicked nokia in price, style, featers n cam quality
se offers 2mp camera for just round 17k..where nokia goes beyond 30k look for urself.
cheers

[lighthouse911]

he he, I stringly disagree with Nokia fans who tell nOKIA IS BETTER THEN se IN CAMERA.iT IS NOT.

I have the w800i and it incidentally takes better pics then the "CARl Zeiss" equipped N90.

[nirubhai]

@aravind_n20
again!.... prove with reference... just don't make it ur choice. i havn't seen any site supporting ur statement!

[Ablenwill]

I think SE gives lot in low price but lacks practicality if u have seen then P900 dont have realplayer installed by default n also not sure if it supports. Where in nokia is giving some quality stuffs preinstalled on its phone. U cant compare t610 with 6610i as later one is just upgraded wit cam for name n t610 is full product I have used both n t610 is undoubtly winner but lacks memory also its audio and charger pin sucks. Also SE doesnt support all the audio format supported by Nokia also many application n games r available for Nokia wherein less for SE but not aware about the new models. It seems like Nokia is Wintel and SE is amd+linux. Its upto individual what u want and how much u can pay. Both are good company with various good product.

[aadipa]

Being a J2ME programmer i can definitely say that SE phones are better than most popular Nokia phones in term of processor speed, audio format support, (Nokia S40 needs OTT while SE can play MIDIs which are much better), and general operational speed.

Similarly Nokia S60 phones, even the owners will agree, are slower than similar SE phones.

Don't compare Pxxx with other phones coz they are not just a phone but a PDA and Nokia don't even offer a PDA :P

EDIT: Oops Nokia has a PDA, S90 phones, now compare :P

[icecoolz]

yea but the S90 phones are ridiculously expensive. And the specs are similar to the W800i anyways. Except that you have a memory slot which is expandible to 4GB. Does not warranty a 37K price tho. I thought they would be much more competitively priced.

[nirubhai]

It seems like Nokia is Wintel and SE is amd+linux.
Now you are talking! But still SE is much more easier than Linux.

Nokia is popular only because it has wide range of models especially the cheaper ones. But, Nokia is way behind SE & others in the multimedia range.

SE plays even lowest bitrate mp3 songs with optimum quality! (which is of the size of .rm files) just try it with Nokia and you will know. Windows has in-built support for mp3 & not for .rm files. So users can copy the mp3 files they listen on their PC without converting.

The PC application that Nokia bundles is a headache till you connect successfully.

SE supports J2ME games & applications.
And the most important thing I noticed is most Nokia phones with BT are infected by some virus! Just turn on your BT and roam around in public. Every 5 minutes you get virus files. SE gets unmatched security that Java offers.

[infra_red_dude]

well thing why SE stick to their propriety OS is they don't wanna depend on anyone else for anything! look at the memory storage! you won't find any SE phone wid memory slot that supports SD/MMC!!! they want users to use Memory Stick/pro/duo!

well in a way this is bad coz then portability is affected! but nevertheless i haf been and even in future be an SE fan....! SE rulezzzzzz!!! :)

[dOm1naTOr]

The Ngage which is priced as low as 7.5 k has expandible memory and bluetooth and features of high end phone(but no cam). SE has no models at that price range to compete.

[infra_red_dude]

yeah? the t610 has 65k color screen, camera, bluetooth, IR but no expandable memory and its prices under 6.5k!!!

[nirubhai]

well thing why SE stick to their propriety OS is they don't wanna depend on anyone else for anything!
nokia does have its propritery OSs. SE or nokia, uses symbian for smartphones.

you won't find any SE phone wid memory slot that supports SD/MMC!!! they want users to use Memory Stick/pro/duo!
because its their product. and most sony products (digicams etc.) use same memory cards. so in one way, Memory Stick/pro/duo is compatible with all sony products.

SE has no models at that price range to compete
sony has playstation.....

hehehehe kiddin...
yes, SE does not have a gaming cell.

[drgrudge]

yeah? the t610 has 65k color screen, camera, bluetooth, IR but no expandable memory and its prices under 6.5k!!!
Don't compare T610 and N gage/QD. T610 is an old phone. One of my friend had that, the joystick thing was broken and we had to replace it. We went to SE center (only one in Chennai, AFAIK) he said there are no "parts" to replace it. Eventually we went o to buy Nokia 6230i the next day.
The keypad are worst in the T series of SE phones (T630,610,100,230,105,etc...).

I believe, now they are developing another model of the same N Gage type and will be out by next year.

nokia has got the best interface among all fons .. i used it and i m crazy of it..

i used erricsion in early days .. it was also good but not as nokia..

one prb with nokia is that they are releasing so many of mobile its hard to remember the each one's no ..!!!!

and nokia phones are so many so u will became general among all .. not different to flaunt..

whatever but i vote for nokia..

[speedyguy]

grgrudge:
Don't compare T610 and N gage/QD

ok then compare it with K700i priced little higher then QD comes with FM, cam with recording, bluetooth, infra, 65k screen n internal memory....

The keypad are worst in the T series of SE phones

Well thats surprising....i used T100 for 4 yrs with all accidents like falling off table etc., eventually even went off my running bike but i still see it work with all bruises on....u mite hv had some technical problem wit dat...ya on d contradictory i do agree that nokia are more durable than any other...but off all....se can also take hammering of daily life atleast....

i had always wanted for nokia but ultimately had to settle wit SE as my budget always showed me better option as SE.

for eg:- i went to get 3220, saw new K300i much-much better than 3220 wit almost same price....again went for 3230 but came wit K750i...again big difference....earlier was going for 3315(not sure) n came out wit t100.

so u see here SE has always wat we want in terms of price, features etc. its just we hv to realise d fact.....just like amd took over intel but indian ppl took time to realise it...they will take time to realise wat se is offering them than nokia....try d following site-

www.gsmarena.com (latest reviews n compairisns)

cheers[/img]

[drgrudge]

The keypad are worst in the T series of SE phones

Well thats surprising....i used T100 for 4 yrs with all accidents like falling off table etc., eventually even went off my running bike but i still see it work with all bruises on....u mite hv had some technical problem wit dat...ya on d contradictory i do agree that nokia are more durable than any other...but off all....se can also take hammering of daily life atleast....
No dude, you got me wrong. All I wanted to say is , SE phones have bad keypad and not for SMS junkies like mine. The joystick is not the type I am confortable.. ie compare 6600's and T230/630's joystick. I am not comparing the quality, but the built and ergonomics involved. :)

[infra_red_dude]

well T610 has one of the best laid out keypads! i actually don't like k700i's keypad!

and 6600's joystick is quite hard whereas the t610's joystick is slick! i don't like k700i's joystick either!

[speedyguy]

so wat type do u like.....kiddin

newez as far as k700i is concerned its quite gud....though varies wit ppls demand....ya 6600 is quite hard comparatively....infact its very large sized so not very comfy wit operation as far as user friendly is concerned....7610 is a gud alternative.
cheers

[aryayush]

If any Nokia fan here an show me a Rs. 7,000+ Nokia phone that has a fast interface then I will agree that Nokia is better than SE. But that is not possible. More later.

[moshel]

well T610 has one of the best laid out keypads! i actually don't like k700i's keypad!

and 6600's joystick is quite hard whereas the t610's joystick is slick! i don't like k700i's joystick either!

i agree with u, after using the joystick of k300i, the joystick of 6600 is too hard......

anyway as for me....i love both companies for their own good features.....i am a music/game freak so i have a ngage qd which has a really "LOUD" loudspeaker and i have sony k300i which has a gr8 sound clarity....usage wise nokia is better....but the sound quality of k300i beats my nokia ngageqd in final evaluation. while playing games on ngage qd is more fun than on k300i

[drgrudge]

If any Nokia fan here an show me a Rs. 7,000+ Nokia phone that has a fast interface then I will agree that Nokia is better than SE. But that is not possible. More later.
Plz tell me a SE EDGe phone which is available in India.

[aryayush]

Please tell me a connection which truly supports EDGE in India! And anyways, Sony Ericsson W600i WALKMAN PHONE supports EDGE and will be available in India by the end of December, 2005.

[drgrudge]

HUTCH had downloadable Clips to be used with your EDGe phone . Also a internet connection via EDGe to browse in your PC.
Airtel had "office" connection which gives internet connection.

[.:deadman:.]

Anyways this mus t be the highest voted thread ever
and SE is still leading

I LUV SE

[infra_red_dude]

yeah exactly!!

me too...big time SE fan...!! well actually there's no feature thats missing from the phones of either of the companies....

go SE go..!! :)

[sagsall4u]

c'mon guyz .. it not in d company but the specific phone .. sum nokia cell's are gr8 an sum SE cell's are awesome ..

[dOm1naTOr]

SE loses out in display quality of med priced phones like k700!. N6600 at somewhat same price has bigger screen and superior image quality of scree.!!!
Nokia rocks....

[infra_red_dude]

SE loses out in display quality of med priced phones like k700!. N6600 at somewhat same price has bigger screen and superior image quality of scree.!!!
Nokia rocks....

i completely disagree wid you! the display quality of SE phones has always been its plus point! btw, 6600 display sucks! try comparing the two side by side and see hows it like.

on the brighter side, the display of N6680 is brilliant!

[speedyguy]

just like i said earlier...nokia fans just need to realise d fact between nokia n se....i again recon u surf thru n checkout latest reveiws n comparisns....
for display i too totally disagree with fact that nokia got better display....se has beaten nokia in display, sound, cam quality n featues with price....wat else do u need....
practically....me (k300i) n my friend(n6600) snaped in daylight together d same pic...n really figured out in a large screen nokia sucked in front of pic by k300i....face was all blured in nokia...though k300i is inferior to k500i n k700i...

as far as edge is concerned....its true dat we wont get much use of it in india....airtel, hutch etc gprs connections r not gud enuf fast to cope up with edge technology....i personally found not much diff in edge n non-edge phones...infact im browsing via airtel gprs.

even till now nokia has no reply to w600i, w800i k759i close to dat price.....if ne1 can find me a nokia fone wit 2mp cam, fm, in-built i-pod, 256k display n all those features within 16-18k...then i wud consider nokia....if any1 can!

for now ppl accept d fact that se are taking over...checkout urself.

cheers

[er.darshan]

hi guys
i have used nokia smartphone for 2 years & now i have SE K750i & i am very very satisfied with it. :lol: it has got all the features with quality.
so nokia fans have to face the reality ....
:( in sub-14k category nokia is good, but if u r spending more than this then SE is better bet.... :D

[sanzay]

Well the polls say it all.
SE is the best.

[spidyweb]

[Plz tell me a SE EDGe phone which is available in India.
SE K600i-12~13k
SE W810i(PRICE NOT DECLARED YET,HOPE WUD B AROUND 25K)


SE k600i now within 10k
se w950i(no camera)
se m600i(no camera)

[moshel]

i do agree that on the front of user friendliness and application/game availability nokia is good

but when i had to make a choice between NOKIA 6630 and SE W550i, i went for the latter one...why? the features are almost the same and 6630 has EDGE 2 but still i went for SE mainly becos of the sound quality. i own a SE K300i also and earlier had NGAGE QD. but i can see the difference in sound quality, hearing to other peoples Ring Back Tones on SE is a far better experience than nokia.

my vote for SE.....for the gr8 sound

[moshel]

SE loses out in display quality of med priced phones like k700!. N6600 at somewhat same price has bigger screen and superior image quality of scree.!!!
Nokia rocks....

hey this is my real life experience, after i bought SE K300i, its joystick is so soft, that when i had a N6600 in my hand i felt the joystick was just very hard to maneuver around.
and also nokia 6600 and other phones are mostly bulky then SE.

[nishant71]

the k500i is a killer phone. i am using one and i am completely satisfied. superb is the word for it. the best sreen clarity in the world. camera ias also very good and it also supports mp3. web browser is too fast from the nokia ones. its a winner all the way...

[speedyguy]

well k500i is gud in dat segment....but now its megapixel mania...my next fone wud certainly be megapixel...currently wit k300i...i heard dis W950i is rocking...its got all including edge...for now w800i is rulling...

ps: can anyone tell me which is d mobile of d year 2005...i think its w800i or k750i...plz confirm

cheers

[Jatin_T]

I remember voting when Se was laggng and i made it even at 20-20 i guess...
BTW- seems like SE has taken over from Nokia in a few segments..hope the Se service centers keep up the good name..not had to go der since my K700i has been working perfectly..even after surviving 2 accidents..hope it goes on for another 2 yrs..and then maybe i will buy one wid my own salary..

SE rocks!

[suave_guy]

well k500i is gud in dat segment....but now its megapixel mania...my next fone wud certainly be megapixel...currently wit k300i...i heard dis W950i is rocking...its got all including edge...for now w800i is rulling...

se W950i does not have a camera, but is has got absolutely stunning and huge touchsceen plus the walkman sound quality...

incase if ur looking for a excellent camera phone in future than wait for the release of SE K790i/800i...

rt now SE w800i/900i are the rulers...

ENjoy...

[speedyguy]

se W950i does not have a camera, but is has got absolutely stunning and huge touchsceen plus the walkman sound quality...


Yipes! didnt know dat dude...newez thanx fr d idea...yep i know abt w800i...currently rulling...but im surprised 950i didnt had cam...never mind my next mob will take time to come n i wud hv lotsa options to go for that time...who knows may be nokia wud come up wit a surprise package...

and coming back to this topic...im posting two images from simple vga cameras to let ppl know wat SE makes difference wit its sony cybershot technology cameras than nokia. the two pics i took them simultaneously wit normal light inside a running train....

Nokia 6600 (Price 9k)-
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3057/image019bd.th.jpg (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image019bd.jpg)

SE K300i (Price 6k)-
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9223/picture015pm.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture015pm.jpg)

Checkout d difference urself...
Enjoy!

CHeers

[aryayush]

WOW! That's a HUGE difference! SE just rules, man!
And not just in the case of imaging, Sony Ericsson rules the roost in audio playback, UI responsiveness, battery life, screen quality, network strength... just about everything! I just cannot fathom any reason why a person might choose any other brand over Sony Ericsson.

[True Geek]

well one is 101 kb
and other is 26kb

diff is obvious

U set a high setting for SE
and low for NOKIA

dont fool us

[speedyguy]

@ True Geek:

dude if u can tell me how do i increase memory taking capacity in 6600 then plz lemme know i wud like to see if i can...

both images are 640*480 resolution....its not my fault if 6600 takes just 26kb for this pic n makes a mess of it...thats wat this cell has to offer ...elsewhere theres no such option for changing image size in 6600 whereas there r 4 modes in SE(160*120, 320*400, 640*480, 1280*960)...so check properly b4 u put ur hands on someone...

And not just in the case of imaging, Sony Ericsson rules the roost in audio playback, UI responsiveness, battery life, screen quality, network strength

yea dude but u goofed up one thing i guess..."network strength"....i observed nokia got better strength and durability...in rest all...se rulez

cheers

[True Geek]

i'm sorry,dint knew tht

i just thought...

ok,the its NOKIA's fault.

it suks then...

[speedyguy]

never mind...peace brother

cheers

[aryayush]

speedyguy, I have a W550i and my sis has an N90. Now it so happens that every so often she has grabs hold of my phone just to check whether there actually is no network or her phone is just goofing up again as it loves to do so time and again! And we regularly witness situations where my phone proudly bears the five bars of network strength and her's draws a complete (and annoying) blank. Whatsay!

[Jatin_T]

Yeah.i dont understand why some people claim SE has a low Network Strength...
I have seen my frnds 6600 getting no n/w while sony proudly shows full strenght...
One problem might be that even at 1 signal bar SE gives a much better recption, while nokia maye give flickers even at 3 bars..so its just than Se has a more responsive Bar...or i m just a big Se fan dats why..has anyone done any scientific testing?

[speedyguy]

@aryayush: well i cant be damn sure abt this thing...may be ive witnessed these in mono basic phones like 1100, T105 etc thats why. i hv k300i n its reception is quite ok...still no scientific testing yet done...

cheers

[aryayush]

You should give credit where it is due and it is NOT even close to the truth that Sony Ericsson suffers from any signal reception problems at all. I know you love SE and there is no need to sell it short when it doesn't deserve to be. Cheers!

[speedyguy]

yea dude ur rite but problem i face here (and also wit SE older phones like those early K series) that they aint got expandable memory that takes to some suffering....

likewise mine, a fone wit excelent vga camera, video rec, mp3, video mpeg media player, ir n lots more shud certainly have more than 12mb memory...i really hv to stay in touch wit pc as i keep on clicking high resolution pictures etc from this cell

so that ways i prefered nokia though now SE hv finally done d job by introducing expandable slot n edge phones...they r really giving their rivals a hard time.

cheers

[~Phenom~]

I m happy that I bought K300i and not Nokia 6600 .

[grinning_devil]

one more vote from me for SE...
been using k750i from may last year...
bought it the second day of its launch...
and its SUPERB..be it voice clarity,camera,reception....overall my hunt for a phone + mp3 player + digi camera is solved!!

[PinKLip]

SE K700i
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/948/k00i1er.th.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k00i1er.jpg)
Nokia 6600
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9074/66004xx.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=66004xx.jpg)
Both image are taken in same light condition,night mode, flash off in SE K700i.

[infra_red_dude]

come on man...stop comparing n6600 and k700i. everyone knows that k700i has a better cam! :)

[grinning_devil]

exactly...6600 was among the top say around 3 years back!!

[avinandan]

I think its a debate rather than a opinion poll. oh BTW I'm a SE fan.

[Najesh]

Well may be that Se rules interms of multimedia but we will have 2 agree that Nokia is a Smart phone and many applications can b added in it.We can change the entire feel of Nokia phones by providing it must extra services by adding softwares in it.So i will go 4 Nokia.

[Gunner]

Well, SE always do offer very interesting features. Prices are competitive too, with the range of W550i and other phones coming in. But let's face the fact - Nokia owns the market in phones. And besides, Nokia always offers better quailty and endurability. And I don't think Ericsson can compete with the N-Series ?

[saiaspire]

I just brought a SE W810, man it rocks!!!!!. It's the best in everything

[bapa1967]

on any Day I will prefer SE phones over Nokia. If one observe closely All the Mid segment Nokia phones are coming with Verry low Internal Memory compared to SE Models. I mean take the case of Nokia 3220 . Tell me what is the use of a Mobile phone with a Camera with only 1.5 MB of Memory.
I own a SE K700i and with a Internal Memory of 41 MB and with a Price Tag of Just around 8K it really is the best Mobile for me as far as Value for Money is concerned.
I don't know why but I am a loyal fan of Sony from the very beginning and will upgrade to W800 verry soon.

[aryayush]

Well, SE always do offer very interesting features. Prices are competitive too, with the range of W550i and other phones coming in.You are absolutely correct till here. :)

But let's face the fact - Nokia owns the market in phones. And besides, Nokia always offers better quailty and endurability.To quote Sachin Kalbag, "Yahaan par hamari kahaani 'offbeat' ho jaati hai!" You are wrong, my friend. Though no one can deny the fact that Nokia has always offered great quality (in physical terms) and endurability, Sony Ericsson is at par with, if not better than, Nokia. For example: When I bought my SE W550i, EVERYONE in my family criticised my choice on two grounds - they told me it was stupidity to opt for anything other than Nokia and the swivel form factor also induced them into thinking that it wouldn't be able to handle even the slightest mishandling. It's been six months now and I am glad to report that their fears have been assauged quite satisfactorily. It has already withstood more than thirty nasty falls with nothing but a very insignificant scratch on the metal part. It even fell (screen first) onto the road once, during CBSE, and nothing whatsoever happened to the display.

And I don't think Ericsson can compete with the N-Series ?LOL! If the N90 is anything to go by, the N-Series is just the old stuff under a new lineup and higher price tags. Every Nokia phone is a brick and slower than some of the Pentium-I PCs I have seen.

[Aniruddh]

Any day nokia...it rocks..it has been quite long since i m using nokia so this time i thought of goin for SE w550..but it sux big time...infact most of the SE fone i as juz saw almost evry fone from SE in sony world..they r all crap..not worth at all...Nokia is by far the best.
My vote goes 2...still do i need to tell??
Ofcourse Nokia

[Gunner]

You are absolutely correct till here. :)

To quote Sachin Kalbag, "Yahaan par hamari kahaani 'offbeat' ho jaati hai!" You are wrong, my friend. Though no one can deny the fact that Nokia has always offered great quality (in physical terms) and endurability, Sony Ericsson is at par with, if not better than, Nokia. For example: When I bought my SE W550i, EVERYONE in my family criticised my choice on two grounds - they told me it was stupidity to opt for anything other than Nokia and the swivel form factor also induced them into thinking that it wouldn't be able to handle even the slightest mishandling. It's been six months now and I am glad to report that their fears have been assauged quite satisfactorily. It has already withstood more than thirty nasty falls with nothing but a very insignificant scratch on the metal part. It even fell (screen first) onto the road once, during CBSE, and nothing whatsoever happened to the display.

LOL! If the N90 is anything to go by, the N-Series is just the old stuff under a new lineup and higher price tags. Every Nokia phone is a brick and slower than some of the Pentium-I PCs I have seen.

You're quotes are right. But you need to see beyond the door - Nokia only offers certian phones which are slow. On the average, Nokia phones beat SE. And when I talk about the durability, I am not comparing only high end phones of either companies. On the average, once again, Nokia is a tad better than sony. And the N-series has a lot more to it than just remodelling. If you really want to take a closer look, one needs to use the phone. ;) And no offence or arguements meant mates !

[saiaspire]

Sony Ericssson Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nokia is just a Hype around the place.

[Tech.Masti]

as per my opinion, specialy in low range, nokia really has a lot of marketing gimmick. Just think about 1600 &1110. no feature and they just ADS 'IT HAS TAKING ALARM'. just compare Nokia 2600,1600,1110,and such low range phones with Samsung C200,C210 C230 OR LG 2050, SE J300i, J210i, Z300 and others. just think about it, nokia's that phone has **display quality, no GPRS, no data cable support, and think about others they have 65K color GPRS, data cable support. here even people buy nokia's that *** phones.
ITS JUST like ''Computer matlob Intel & Phone Matlob NOKIA.'' they not even try others brands.
Nokia don't tell you clear specification, you'll can't find any phones GPRS version officially.
I think they can only get some GOOD marks in higher range with 3230,6630 6681 and N-series, even those phone are slow and many models are misses RADIO and , a must have feature for high range.Ya, we can add software and increase its features, but you can't add a radio, good display and other and nokia owners maximum faces datacable or BT problem just like with my 3220,and friends 3230. its connects and disconnects randomly except any cause.
From my experince i can tell that Nokia's signal receiving capacity decreases. my town has no SMART network. but my nearby town has SMART network, which shown me 1 or 2 signal lines on my OLD 3315. After that i bought SE T230, its also responds averagely. But now i using 3220 and i found that it unable to found any SMART signal, even LG and SAMSUNG easily catch SMART signal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At last i can tell you guys that just checkout SE launching some great models soon. it has some smartphones also, and i loves the W300i model and wants to buy.

[alekh_khanna]

SE rules..
i have a SE S700i.. rocking display.. looks like u are gaming on ur pc...one of the 1st phones to play MP3s ( its old )...
love it.. simply !!!!

[Drizzling Blur]

Ericcson, Hands down anyday, Nokia will always have the creative edge and maybe technologically also, but then ultimately its Sony which concentrates more on the User point of view, everything from Styling, Options, Colours, Features are wonderfully taken care of.

Nokia phones are really boring, apart from the fact that they are really tuff and lots of Servicing Shops are present, i really dont like them.

[alekh_khanna]

Sony Ericssson Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nokia is just a Hype around the place.

Absolutely right !!!!!

[alekh_khanna]

See the latest heat urself..
http://www.gsmarena.com/3mp_test_nokia_n80_se_k800-review-79.php

[alekh_khanna]

SE rules.. Doubtless !!!!!!!!!!

[gary4gar]

nokia has a brand value & more important high resale value

[speedyguy]

wow! this thread is still lasting...n going on...its been more than a mnth....newze gud going....im still voting for SE

cheers

[kumarmohit]

All SE ppl

Give me a SE reply to upcoming Nokia N93 The featureset includes:


http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v2/media/product/tech_specs/en-AP/tech_specs_n93_en_AP.html?lang=en&country=AP
or the N83 which boasts 5mp cam & 4GB HDD Not cofirmed by Nokia officially)

http://www.google.co.in/url?q=http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx%3Fdist%3Dnewsfinder%26siteid%3Dgoogle%2 6guid%3D%257B1E65499E-DD6E-438D-B055-32C8FBFD2DA2%257D%26keyword%3D&sa=X&oi=news&ct=result&cd=1

[rajasekharan]

sony all the way............................

i used sony all the way....t610, k700i, k750i........not a single complaint and works flawlessly.....

my firstphone being c300 or so from motorola.....used that for a year with no prob.....
then changed to nokia 2300 or so ....used it for a week...and discontinued cause i did not like it......then came SONY....and since then its SONY all the way....and i still love it.....:)

[prankie]

coz u never tried a smartphone thats why u were stuck with SE....
SE phones are good, specially there UI, specially when compared with series40 nokia phones, but series60 phones frm nokia are completly different breed...
try any of 'em, u'll really like 'em....

[kau_therock]

Nokia SUCKS!!!!! SE RULZ!!!!!

I currently have p990i nd this baby rocks!!!!

[aryayush]

All SE ppl

Give me a SE reply to upcoming Nokia N93 The featureset includes:


http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v2/media/product/tech_specs/en-AP/tech_specs_n93_en_AP.html?lang=en&country=AP
or the N83 which boasts 5mp cam & 4GB HDD Not cofirmed by Nokia officially)

http://www.google.co.in/url?q=http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx%3Fdist%3Dnewsfinder%26siteid%3Dgoogle%2 6guid%3D%257B1E65499E-DD6E-438D-B055-32C8FBFD2DA2%257D%26keyword%3D&sa=X&oi=news&ct=result&cd=1
It (Nokia N91) is much too complicated from inside as not to make the mobile world speak and write about it. For example, we will have to wait at least a few months before a pack of applications compatible with Symbian 9.1 appears on the market. Further on, I cannot help, but once again draw your attention to the phone construction imperfections, to the 1-minute limited voice recorder, the "hard-headed" T9 dictionary, etc. Why isn't there a second camera for video calls? Why use a hard disk instead of a flash drive? Where were the Nokia designers during all these long preparation months, when the launch of Nokia N91 was constantly postponed? Where is the so longed maturity?
It has been a whole year since I first saw Nokia N91. At that moment, I was struck speechless. The futuristic N91 was so rich in features and looked so unusual that it literally took my breath away. I remember that the initial version of the phone was full of imperfections, but Nokia representatives made an official promise that the final Nokia N91 would be precisely elaborated.

Well, it appears that the year taken for improvements has hardly improved anything (as expected). The sliding part of the keypad does not close well, the tiny numeric keys have not changed a bit; what's worse, they do play a lot. The work of the functional keys and the joystick is not convincing, either. Why should I expect that such an expensive mobile is to be solid, firm, and precise? Because it's exactly what it should be like… (yeah)

I just find Nokia N91 much too big and heavy (in fewer words, a 'brick'), no matter how great its software potential is. I do not like the design solution of the top part of the phone. I find it ugly. Whatsoever, there is no doubt that Nokia N91 looks like a luxury mobile device (the only thing the price tag seems to justify). Glossy elements suit it well, but they require frequent polishing.

I did not have much time to "play" with the Nokia N91. In any case, I do not mind the unusual location of the Menu button. It just requires some practice. I appreciate the hardware keylock located on the top edge of the phone (copied from Sony Ericsson) as well as the universal earphone jack. The greatest disappointment in Nokia N91 for me is its display, and more precisely, it's low resolution.

The music player is user-friendly, yet somewhat slow (as everything Nokia is). Sound is good, with the potential of becoming superb, if (and only if) a high-class set of earphones is used. The cracking tones that accompany each volume modification are the only acoustic drawback of the phone.

To sum up, I am disappointed with Nokia N91 (me too). Such expensive phone, one of such a high class should in no case feature so many failures.
I have the worst words prepared for Nokia N91. It is a true monster, huge and heavy. Apparently, Nokia designers have not devoted much time to the phone's outlook. (They never do!) N91 looks as a paddle. (!!LOL!!) When opened, the sliding keypad cover is dangerously sharp. Access to the numeric keypad is not satisfying. The cover itself is difficult to be manipulated.

N91 display is more than disappointing. It looks rough, especially if compared to displays with QVGA resolution (to be found in most current high-class mobile phones). Display interface has been slightly modified, font size has been reduced. The greatest inconvenience, however, lies in the incompatibility of the new Symbian 9.1 with software applications and programs used in the current line of mobile phones.

I decided not to take my first impressions seriously. When Nokia first released its N91 model a year ago, I tried not to pay attention to my inner voice and to make myself believe the promises that everything would be different, better. Design, construction, control... Well, as you could see, nothing has changed. Nokia N91 is the same freak of nature as it was on the day of its promotion.

Without a question, Wi-Fi support, the music player and a large jack for the earphones are all the conveniences we all like to see in other phones. To my opinion, however, the mechanical hard disk with a 4 GB capacity encumbers the device more than it helps (exactly). The situation would have been completely different if you could fit a few dozens of GB into the phone. In such case the hard disk technology would have doubtlessly come in handy.!!LOL!! To read the full review of the much hyped Nokia N91, head over to:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n91-review-81.php

SO! What happened to the monster? How come it is loaded with features (and a huge price tag) and still is no better than the average Nokia phone? When there is a hype for a Sony Ericsson product, it actually delivers when it is released (the W800i being the prime example). However, the same cannot be said for Nokia. :)

[robin345]

My Choice for Moble Phones is Nokia ..They know how make X-Lent phones

[maheswar2006]

Sony Ericsson ..............sony Ericsson..................sony Ericsson..............sony Ericsson...........sony Ericsson...

[alekh_khanna]

Sony rulez !!! No doubt abt that..... Nokia comes out with crap models.... It only tries to outshow other competitors & impress masses at large who actually either dont have sufficient knowledge abt cell phones or are to lazy to find out the best ones out there ( & therefore go with the flow )...
Sony --- Bujhaye technology ki pyass, Baaki all bakwaas.....

[bunny01in]

Well I have a Nokia, however, its sound and video quality sucks. Sony Errison is far better in this. NOw if only they can better the service quality of Nokia.

[Najesh]

There is only 1 thing in SE which is better then nokia is the great multimedia features,but that 2 if we r comparing Se with low range Nokia phones,i mean not N-series.

[naveen_reloaded]

if my reply here is not upto the rules of this forum please remove it.
sorry for my harsh critic here,anybody feel heart hurting(nokia users)
if so then ---"I AM SORRY".


COMPARING SE WITH NOKIA

is


like


comparing



MAC WITH A ASSEMBLED WINDOWS 95 RUNNING COMPUTER







NOKIA:


-provides large screen
-elephant size worthless phones
-cheaper down quality phones
-speed---- yeah sure to be compared to a tortoise
-design---who cares when its a elephant size phones
-Virus----well next time onwards they should include in their features as "virus infection is possible so go to a nearby service provider and get a antivirus software by paying and still we wont give a patch to the whole in our phones!"
-memory card---ok here is a simple proportion"speed of nokia phone is INVERSELY proportional to the AMOUNT of MEMORY THEY"
-SOUND QUALITITY----hear it and then u will forget listening to music hereafter

Sony Ericsson:
-provides cute little phones,because they are giving what they are meant to give ---a "cell"phone
-good handsome features
-QUALITY the BEST a company could provide!!!!
-Very RICH FEATURES
-AWESOME """"""SPEED""""""
-tomorrows technology in their cell phones
-design---all the cutes ones from them except for w800
-virus----sorry we(sony eric) dont know wht it is !!!!(please go and ask nokia)
-memory card "speed of SE phone is DIRECTLY or EQUALLY proportional to the AMOUNT of MEMORY THEY"
-SOUND QUALITY----hear them and u will never let down those two little ear phones ever.....execellent quality,cant compare with any other phones

even nokia users know that thier phones are worthless and shouldnt be compared to the GODly Sony Ericsson....

WELL THERE IS LOADS TO COMPARE BUT AS FAR NOW THIS IS FAR MORE ENOUGH TO MAKE SONY ERICSSON THE KING OF THE PHONES

MY VERDICT



:::::::SONY ERICSSON:THE UNBEATABLE::::::::

[prankie]

if my reply here is not upto the rules of this forum please remove it.
sorry for my harsh critic here,anybody feel heart hurting(nokia users)
if so then ---"I AM SORRY".


COMPARING SE WITH NOKIA

is


like


comparing



MAC WITH A ASSEMBLED WINDOWS 95 RUNNING COMPUTER







NOKIA:


-provides large screen
-elephant size worthless phones
-cheaper down quality phones
-speed---- yeah sure to be compared to a tortoise
-design---who cares when its a elephant size phones
-Virus----well next time onwards they should include in their features as "virus infection is possible so go to a nearby service provider and get a antivirus software by paying and still we wont give a patch to the whole in our phones!"
-memory card---ok here is a simple proportion"speed of nokia phone is INVERSELY proportional to the AMOUNT of MEMORY THEY"
-SOUND QUALITITY----hear it and then u will forget listening to music hereafter

Sony Ericsson:
-provides cute little phones,because they are giving what they are meant to give ---a "cell"phone
-good handsome features
-QUALITY the BEST a company could provide!!!!
-Very RICH FEATURES
-AWESOME """"""SPEED""""""
-tomorrows technology in their cell phones
-design---all the cutes ones from them except for w800
-virus----sorry we(sony eric) dont know wht it is !!!!(please go and ask nokia)
-memory card "speed of SE phone is DIRECTLY or EQUALLY proportional to the AMOUNT of MEMORY THEY"
-SOUND QUALITY----hear them and u will never let down those two little ear phones ever.....execellent quality,cant compare with any other phones

even nokia users know that thier phones are worthless and shouldnt be compared to the GODly Sony Ericsson....

WELL THERE IS LOADS TO COMPARE BUT AS FAR NOW THIS IS FAR MORE ENOUGH TO MAKE SONY ERICSSON THE KING OF THE PHONES

MY VERDICT



:::::::SONY ERICSSON:THE UNBEATABLE::::::::

hmmm.... nice....
i mean its nice that u have an opinion.
but my opinion is that except the UIQ ones, all SE phones are too DUMB!!!!
Believe it or not, all SE fans have only 3 things to boast.
1. My SE phone has better sound quality
-k i agree, but then why people buy mp3 player.
2. My SE phone has better UI
-compare it with new symbi v9.1
3. My SE phone is virus free.
-ya, even my videogame is virus free!!!! lol...

[aryayush]

I agree that SE being virus free is not a valid argument at all (it only denotes that it is less popular).
But SE's UI is far better and more intutive that Symbian v9.1's.

1. My SE phone has better sound quality
-k i agree, but then why people buy mp3 player.
That's a RIDICULOUS statement!! Then why does Nokia provide a phonebook (why people buy diaries), camera (why people buy SLRs and DSLRs), DVBH (why people buy TV), EDGE (why people buy Broadband)... etc, etc, etc. SE phones have MP3 playing capabilities and so does Nokia. Now, if SE's audio quality is infinite times better than Nokia's, it definitely is a plus point. And MP3 players are fading out. Ever heard the word 'convergence'?!?
BTW, not only audio, SE's K750i's (was launched in the Q1, 2006) camera is much better than Nokia N90's (launched in Q4, 2005) camera.

[prankie]

Yes, i've heard the word convergence.... and i agree that MP3 players are fading out because they are being replaced by mobile..
but i disagree with ur statement that
SE's audio quality is infinite times better than Nokia's
there was a time when Nokia phones sounded bad but after N6630, things have changed. try listening music on N3250 or N91 then u'll know....
and btw why people compare NOKIA smartphones with SE phones..
competition should be b/w equals... like SE v/s any series40 phone...

@naveen_reloaded
your comments sound too childish...
Nokia has the largest marketshare in the world.... and SE is not even second.. this must clear ur confusion
that who is unbeatable...

[navneeth_snr]

@naveen_reloaded
your comments sound too childish...
Nokia has the largest marketshare in the world.... and SE is not even second.. this must clear ur confusion
that who is unbeatable...

Exactly, I have both Nokia and SE phones. SE is only famous for its display and sound, But that doesn't mean Nokia's sound clarity is not good.

SE don't have guts to release a symbian phone! If they release them, then I will go for SE higher model

[naveen_reloaded]

hmmm.... nice....
i mean its nice that u have an opinion.
but my opinion is that except the UIQ ones, all SE phones are too DUMB!!!!
Believe it or not, all SE fans have only 3 things to boast.
1. My SE phone has better sound quality
-k i agree, but then why people buy mp3 player.
2. My SE phone has better UI
-compare it with new symbi v9.1
3. My SE phone is virus free.
-ya, even my videogame is virus free!!!! lol...



everybody should know something : every electronic device should be virus free ...... atleast they dshould provide patch in their next version (symbian softwares in particular..NOKIA)
my question is if there is a virus out there and it is dealing with bluetooth ... why cant they provide a simple <<<<PATCH>>>>.....

my simple logic thinking is they dont want to provide a patch coz as far as i think (delete it if controversial),is because there are too many anti-virus out there ready to make MONEY...


ok tell me guys how many of u or ur friends have downloaded a virus into thier symbian and how many of them have gone to shop to load a latest anti virus software (spending few hundreds).....????

if this might have stopped in the first place my the makers(NOKIA) we couldnt have spent those money


any WAY whatever u say ******SONY ERICSSON IS THE BEST********

[naveen_reloaded]

Quote:aryayush:I agree that SE being virus free is not a valid argument at all (it only denotes that it is less popular).
But SE's UI is far better and more intutive that Symbian v9.1's.



ARENT UR STATEMENT IS TOO LAME....???
ok windows is also popular can u compare it with a mac for its performance ?

isnt it ur comments is toooooooooooooo childish???
my comments too childish? well i think it is the way they teach for the small kids around!!

SONY ERICSSON shouldnt be compared to the worst nokia...in any dept

let me say even BLUTOOTH technology is sony`s development....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth

sony ericsson (SONY) has the technology than anyother company or firm in this world....
everybody should agree.....

anyway nokia lovers ..... try to update urself ...coz


"UR EYES DOESNT SE WHAT UR MIND DOESNT KNOW "

[naveen_reloaded]

ok if u guys think nokia is the best just see the polls at the top of the page !!!!!!

i think this is nothing to do with sales and marketing of sony ericsson!

everybody ,even the nokia users know thier sets are not upto the mark comparedto SONY ERICSSON

[PinKLip]

So war is still going on,

My Vote is for SoNy ErIcSsOn

[deathvirus_me]

Nokia ..... coz for me ... Symbian is the way to go ...

[aryayush]

navneeth_snr and deathvirus_me, P910i is a symbian phone just in case you didn't know.
And the upcoming W950i and M600i are also Symbian phones.

[naveen_reloaded]

again se announvd its new arrival....

rival to nokia..???

no theiers path is different and if possible ask nokia to follow SE as it has been doing all these days.....

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w850_and_4_more-news-195.php

[naveen_reloaded]

******SONY ERICSSON IS THE BEST********

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5500-review-83.php




look at this model.... the cover to protect the bottom part... isnt it similar to SE phones???

K700i??? and other phones??
http://www.gsmarena.com/openpic.php3?ARI=/Files/Obrazky/art20/Nokia_5500/Live&IMI=/20.JPG


ok NOKEESSS try to give innovative ideas from ur mind ...not a copy from others....

******SONY ERICSSON IS THE BEST********

[prankie]

Take a chill man!!!!!
I also own W800i along with N3250,,, but i find even my old 6600 better than 800i,
i dunno why i bought se....

[gdatuk]

The user-friendly (like windows) Sturdy (Like Linux) Apealing to the mass..(Like Amitab) Nokia is my all time favourite..
SE may be good in their individial technology....like BT, music...etc..but when it comes to the entire package..the winner is Nokia

[gxsaurav]

Well, so many votes can't be wrong

Nokia Symbian Phones are more like a computer then a Phone, a phone should be a phone first, Smart phones should be in a different catagory

SE phones are phones with features, Nokia phones are computer with features

Nokia Series 60 UI is much like the Icon desktop in SE phones, so we can & cannot say that they copied the other. However, just check yourself, how less cluttered the UI of a K750i compared to 6670 0r 6630, i haven't been able to check N90 yet

[aryayush]

Take a chill man!!!!!
I also own W800i along with N3250,,, but i find even my old 6600 better than 800i,
i dunno why i bought se....!!LOL!LOL!!

i haven't been able to check N90 yetEven a Nokia fan would have to be incredibly stupid to like THAT...do they call it a phone!!

[kumarmohit]

!!LOL!! To read the full review of the much hyped Nokia N91, head over to:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n91-review-81.php

SO! What happened to the monster? How come it is loaded with features (and a huge price tag) and still is no better than the average Nokia phone? When there is a hype for a Sony Ericsson product, it actually delivers when it is released (the W800i being the prime example). However, the same cannot be said for Nokia. :)
Smart Pretty very Smart but dude I asked for a reply to Nokia N93 ie N- Ninty Three -- do you know that 91 comes before 92 and 93 comes after 92 Come on dude you can properly read a post before replying...

But then - SE makes phones- Nokia Nseries is touted as multimedia computers - No comparing the two

[prankie]

Smart Pretty very Smart but dude I asked for a reply to Nokia N93 ie N- Ninty Three -- do you know that 91 comes before 92 and 93 comes after 92 Come on dude you can properly read a post before replying...

But then - SE makes phones- Nokia Nseries is touted as multimedia computers - No comparing the two
Absolutely correct!!!!
N93 is one hell of a device.. its the first to support hardware graphix accelerator... and has a support for openGL too....


Take a chill man!!!!!
I also own W800i along with N3250,,, but i find even my old 6600 better than 800i,
i dunno why i bought se....
!!LOL!LOL!!
there's nothin to laugh... u call SE multimedia phone, plz tell me how many types of audio and video formats does it identifies???
Can it play avi or mp4 files??
ifnot, than is there anyway by which u can make it play that format???

[maheswar2006]

Man u r seriously misinformed. Almost all SE phones (even the old K700i) can play MP4 files.
And what r u saying? Nokia can play avi files? Total crap.
And u cannot compare the not yet released n93 with existing SE phones. It is not fair.
Best thing u can do is compare the now available N90 with SE phones. Picture quality is much better in the W800/w810/W900 even in Macro mode, even when Nokia uses CarlZiess lenses.
Music playback quality, dont ask. SE is the current king in music phones.

By the time the N93 goes mainstream, do u expect SE will just sit and watch?
They will come out with a better product. Mark my words.....

And remember who invented the walkman? I dont think it was nokia.
Does nokia have expertise on standalone digi cameras and video handycams? Dont think so......

SE is the way to go.............Not nokia

[Vishal Gupta]

My SE K700i can play mp3, wav, aac, amr, 3gp, mp4 formats! :)

[PinKLip]

@prankie
Vishal is right.
my K700i too support mp4 format.
Originally Posted by prankie
Take a chill man!!!!!
I also own W800i along with N3250,,, but i find even my old 6600 better than 800i,
i dunno why i bought se....
Yeh baat kuch hajam nahi hua.
Anyway, this is you personal matter that you like NOKIA.
Goodluck with NOKIA.
Thanks

[prankie]

Man u r seriously misinformed. Almost all SE phones (even the old K700i) can play MP4 files.
And what r u saying? Nokia can play avi files? Total crap.

Ever heard of smartmovie?????

U Know what, yesterday i was tryin to copy somee aac songs frm my 3250 to w800i but it did'nt ran... does anyone know why????

U all must be thinking that i hate SE phones,, but i dont. i actually love the P series.. bt i just dont like the comparison b/e normal and smartphone.

[naveen_reloaded]

http://www.gsmarena.com/3mp_test_nokia_n80_se_k800-review-79.php


ok here is the place where they compare the N80 and K800...

read the review....SE WINS .....as always...

if possible,i think nokia can get pattent or contract or deal , or anytihng like that from Sony Ericsson...so that NOKIA can produce CELL PHONES WITH SOME FEATURES.....

as i have already mentioned....SE gives CELL PHONES (i think it is supposed to be sleek, compact , feature rich....

if a company (nokia)cant give "CELL PHONES".....why are they there ????

i dont know...

nokia lovers just think for a moment.....isnt ur "phones" a little bit BIG...

if u want a phone like that why cant u carry a WIRELESS PHONES given by Tata , reliance ...etc around......

[naveen_reloaded]

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_expands_eseries_with_e50-news-196.php


doesnt this model resemble sagem series of phone???


huuuuuhhhhhh.......whtever ....whtever discussion goes here ...nothing will changethe mentality of the people...ans wht they support for ...

so i think its not worth convincing them...(NOKI LOVERS)

any way my stand...:::::::::SONY ERICSSON ROCKS::::::::

[aryayush]

!!LOL!! To read the full review of the much hyped Nokia N91, head over to:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n91-review-81.php

SO! What happened to the monster? How come it is loaded with features (and a huge price tag) and still is no better than the average Nokia phone? When there is a hype for a Sony Ericsson product, it actually delivers when it is released (the W800i being the prime example). However, the same cannot be said for Nokia. :)Smart Pretty very Smart but dude I asked for a reply to Nokia N93 ie N- Ninty Three -- do you know that 91 comes before 92 and 93 comes after 92 Come on dude you can properly read a post before replying...

But then - SE makes phones- Nokia Nseries is touted as multimedia computers - No comparing the twoI've already sent you a reply about this via PM but I'll anyway post it here too:
I know that you were talking about N93 but I wanted to tell you that, as with the N93, we also had great expectations for the N91. And since the expectations are higher this time, the disappointment will be so too. I was just showing you a glimpse of the future with a comparison to the present. Guess I should have made myself clearer.

Take a chill man!!!!!
I also own W800i along with N3250,,, but i find even my old 6600 better than 800i,
i dunno why i bought se....!!LOL!LOL!!there's nothin to laugh... u call SE multimedia phone, plz tell me how many types of audio and video formats does it identifies???
Can it play avi or mp4 files??
ifnot, than is there anyway by which u can make it play that format???You've already got a reply but let me also add that Sony Ericsson phones do play the MP4 format and they play them better than Nokia. You don't need fifteen software for fifteen formats. Maybe five formats are supported but they are supported by default. AVI is not supported but it takes about one minute to convert a five minute video from any format to MP4.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_expands_eseries_with_e50-news-196.php


doesnt this model resemble sagem series of phone???Sure does!

[the deconstructionist]

Nokia for reliability and Sony for its style. My choice is -----.

[Ace Ventura]

I have a k300i and i luv it

I give SE a 8 out of 10 for the features

and 7 out of 10 for Nokia

[kumarmohit]

I've already sent you a reply about this via PM but I'll anyway post it here too:
I know that you were talking about N93 but I wanted to tell you that, as with the N93, we also had great expectations for the N91. And since the expectations are higher this time, the disappointment will be so too. I was just showing you a glimpse of the future with a comparison to the present. Guess I should have made myself clearer.

Dude just because N91 was not upto scratch does not mean that N93 will a bad fone too, you can not give a fair comment on any thing unless you experience it your self, "just because expectations are higher does not mean that diappointment will be higher too" - you see no one here has the fone yet but we all know the announced Tech Specs and SE has no reply for these tech specs yet no one has actually used the fone and no one can say it will be bad without even experiencing it, on the contrary if one goes by the Tech specs (else we have no other standard to compare) Nokia is way ahead of SE

[aryayush]

Does any SE phone boast of better specs than N91, even though it is already released now? No. But if given an option between N91, 3250 or any WALKMAN phone from Sony Ericsson, I would definitely choose the latter. Just displaying a huge list of features does not make a quality product, you have to implement those features well and that is what SE does. It does not cram the cell with every possible feature (ranging from a PhoneBook to a swimming pool), but it implements the fewer features with class!
As for the N93 - well, we have to use some sort of judgement. And you can only judge a company by its existing products. Expectations soared with the announcement of N91, diminished a bit by the delays and crashed with the launch. I am just using it as an example. The same story goes for 3230, 3250, etc. etc. etc.!
If N93 is as good as Nokia claims it to be, we will shut our mouths and praise the product. If it doesn't satisfy the critics (as I am sure it won't), you will again tell us to forget N93 and post appraisals for some other super loaded phone that Nokia will have announced by then!
And why are you comparing the impending products, compare the existing ones.

[kumarmohit]

Since you say that N91 disaapointed you here is something for you to see :

http://symbian-freak.com/news/1105/n90_n91_bestaward.htm

and if you think Nokia's Cameras are no good, be so good of you as if to plz visit this page:

http://symbian-freak.com/news/006/05/N80_best_mobile_imaging_device.htm

and if u complain about display of Nokia phones, here:

http://symbian-freak.com/news/006/05/ati_ft_nokia.htm

Well we all know even though N93 is not released yet its prototypes are already out and are being praised if u will be so kind to google for this.

An btw advanced fone like N93 is not meant to be a commercial success its just a demonstration of tecnology just like a Quadcore PowerMAC G5 -- Apple never thought it will be a commercial success they just made it as a show off of their techonological capability which is what makes Apple better from any other PC manufacturer similarly N 93 shows off Nokia's technological prowess its not meant to be a commercial success and SE has nothing to show off that they can claim to come equal to the N93 which makes Nokia a leap ahead of SE..But then again are not both of us doing the same mistake - comparing a touted Walkman to a touted Multimedia computer Its like comparing Digit to a well known Linux magazine (Plz dont ask me to name it) whereas Digit compares a wide perspective of tech.. the Linux Mag stays only with Linux where as a multimedia computer gives you really wide range of options a Walkman is much limited in perspective.

[naveen_reloaded]

Since you say that N91 disaapointed you here is something for you to see :

http://symbian-freak.com/news/1105/n90_n91_bestaward.htm

and if you think Nokia's Cameras are no good, be so good of you as if to plz visit this page:

http://symbian-freak.com/news/006/05/N80_best_mobile_imaging_device.htm

and if u complain about display of Nokia phones, here:

http://symbian-freak.com/news/006/05/ati_ft_nokia.htm

Well we all know even though N93 is not released yet its prototypes are already out and are being praised if u will be so kind to google for this.

An btw advanced fone like N93 is not meant to be a commercial success its just a demonstration of tecnology just like a Quadcore PowerMAC G5 -- Apple never thought it will be a commercial success they just made it as a show off of their techonological capability which is what makes Apple better from any other PC manufacturer similarly N 93 shows off Nokia's technological prowess its not meant to be a commercial success and SE has nothing to show off that they can claim to come equal to the N93 which makes Nokia a leap ahead of SE..But then again are not both of us doing the same mistake - comparing a touted Walkman to a touted Multimedia computer Its like comparing Digit to a well known Linux magazine (Plz dont ask me to name it) whereas Digit compares a wide perspective of tech.. the Linux Mag stays only with Linux where as a multimedia computer gives you really wide range of options a Walkman is much limited in perspective.



anybody ditching SE...here it is for NOKI fans
(nobody is telling SE ,anything when i am around.....)
http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=615

http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=52

http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=459

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_2052.html

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pc1_9_1&zone=pc&lm=pc1&prid=2080

ok nokia is not the only one to win awards....still this site might be old...but anyway...something is better than nothing....

sonyericsson is always award winner`s ..... its like comparing sachin(SE) with ricky pointing(nokia)...

SACHIN (SONY ERICSSON) have performance,stabilty,style....etc....add whtever u want....since because he is not in form ..it doesnt mean....he is not a star!!!! he is a legend and a class player(associate everything with SE)

searching for some more sites.....just seee this this thread...SE will ROCK U

[alienspiesu]

i heard ppl here supportin SE a lot.. but i say xcept for features @ a low price .. wat else they got???? the ans is NUTHIN...
NOKIA roks in all aspects.. the make .. aftr buyin services,, n for the latest buZZ..
is thre ne fone wich can even come closer to N-91 wit a BOSE headfone...
ha ha NOKIA is light years ahead of SE..
in the end NOKIA roks..

[naveen_reloaded]

i heard ppl here supportin SE a lot.. but i say xcept for features @ a low price .. wat else they got???? the ans is NUTHIN...
NOKIA roks in all aspects.. the make .. aftr buyin services,, n for the latest buZZ..
is thre ne fone wich can even come closer to N-91 wit a BOSE headfone...
ha ha NOKIA is light years ahead of SE..
in the end NOKIA roks..


ya sure nokia has to go in for others always to find a way to keep up with
SE....but SE provides its own ultimate,powerful,(have u ever heard a song in w800i or w550i????or any other SE phones...), bass rich,clear,STEREO .....

everything a WALKMAN phone could provide.....on the other hand take a look at Nokia.....depending on others for everyhting...like for bluetooth(from Sony),as u said headphones(from BOSE).....huuuuuuuhhhhh,wht the hell does this nokia doing huh???

SE is the FUTURE......anybody denying can go to ....H E L L or quit this forum.....

*MOD , if u feel this opne is offensive please remove*

[naveen_reloaded]

i heard ppl here supportin SE a lot.. but i say xcept for features @ a low price .. wat else they got???? the ans is NUTHIN...


ha ha NOKIA is light years ahead of SE..
in the end NOKIA roks..



i cant understand.....u,urself have said SE is providing with features,.....then u r saying ....."the ans is NUTHIN"....wht u want SE to be like nokia huh...no feature...heavy priced ,elephant sized PHONES,(not cell phones,i dont call nokia phones as cell phones.......sorry???)

then about light year...u must be kidding.......nokia......light year ahead...???
well i dont think like that ....it must be light year behind..

everybody knows ,within a small span of time...SE has come up with awesome position in cell phone sector.....no one can deny it....and one thing is SE is always feature rich, i mean very rich...SE will rock...and even shack every of its opponents

[kumarmohit]

@naveen-reloaded - "the ans is NUTHIN"

Cool it man why are you shoutin, you kno its a good idea to post with Caps off and its a bad idea to quote reply just posted above yours.

Anyway coming back to the topic If would have read my post which you so hastily quoted and if you would be kind enuf to go and look at feature set of the fones like N93 and rumoured N83 you will come to know that Nokia is far ahead of rivals

Dude sony-ericsson might have made progress but they are still lagging behind Nokia because its a fact that its sales revenue is much less than Nokia or for that matter even less then Motorola which means that they can divert much less funds towards R&D then others like Nokia or Motorola another reason for this is that where as Nokia has vehemently supported OpenSource and community participation, sony-ericsson is still stuck with a ClosedSource model except Symbian

Similarly Performance of a product may vary from place to place and time to time and this makes performance a rather secondary point of comparison Nokia might work well in your hands and sony-ericsson might work well in mine but performance is not a consistent point of comparison. It is the tech specifications of a product which show how advanced is a product, Any 3G fone might work as equal to a 2G or 2.5G fone in a 2G or 2.5G network respectivly this doesn't undermine the fact that its a 3G fone and when it comes to its full potential in 3G network its perfomance can outweigh the performance of a 2G or 2.5G fone in a 2G or 2.5G network.

[suave_guy]

agreed that nokia N series is very popular and looks promising with whole lot of features but i definately disagree that nokia is far ahead of rivals...

nokia might be a very good competitor but definately not miles ahead....nokia is not all about N93 and N83 only....how many will be able to afford it anyways....but SE has produced phones for the masses with features and class which can only be felt in higher end nokia phones and thats why i favour SE....nokia guys swear by its N series due to its camera capability and multimedia features but we all know that these very features which lay the foundation for N series have been beaten hands down by SE phones....except maybe dispaly quality but that also only in N83 and N93 which i'm sure will be beaten soon coz nokia was never a leader in display quality anyways....

and i'll disagree infinite times that SE has less funds for R&D than nokia or others...dude we are talking about SONY here....not some joke and dont forget ericsson....and i think the rate at which SE is advancing cannot be matched by any other brand so dont ever raise the questions as far as R&D in concerned...!

to all Nokia fans,
before you ppl come out with statements like "nokia is light years ahead/far ahead of rivals" plz keep in mind that SE is not all about k700i/k750i and w800i only...
nokia and others still have to come up with answers to SE models like W900i, K790/800i, w850i, p990i, w950i, M600i, w810i

and when we look at p990i we can realize that there's a very thin line b/w this phone and the nokia highest phones like N83 and N93....its just a matter of two or three more advanced phones and better software support from SE that will actually leave N series behind...

ENjoy...

[aryayush]

Since you say that N91 disaapointed you here is something for you to see :

http://symbian-freak.com/news/1105/n90_n91_bestaward.htm

and if you think Nokia's Cameras are no good, be so good of you as if to plz visit this page:

http://symbian-freak.com/news/006/05/N80_best_mobile_imaging_device.htm

and if u complain about display of Nokia phones, here:

http://symbian-freak.com/news/006/05/ati_ft_nokia.htm

Well we all know even though N93 is not released yet its prototypes are already out and are being praised if u will be so kind to google for this.

An btw advanced fone like N93 is not meant to be a commercial success its just a demonstration of tecnology just like a Quadcore PowerMAC G5 -- Apple never thought it will be a commercial success they just made it as a show off of their techonological capability which is what makes Apple better from any other PC manufacturer similarly N 93 shows off Nokia's technological prowess its not meant to be a commercial success and SE has nothing to show off that they can claim to come equal to the N93 which makes Nokia a leap ahead of SE..But then again are not both of us doing the same mistake - comparing a touted Walkman to a touted Multimedia computer Its like comparing Digit to a well known Linux magazine (Plz dont ask me to name it) whereas Digit compares a wide perspective of tech.. the Linux Mag stays only with Linux where as a multimedia computer gives you really wide range of options a Walkman is much limited in perspective.The first link even awards N90 and if THAT phone deserves an award...what doesn't! They could as well have awarded some SE phone for all I care! I have used N90 and it sucks till the last 's'. The display is erratic, the camera takes grainy pictures in dim light, you cannot hear music from the speakers, the headphones are crappiness redefined, it's HUGE and of course, it is slow! And it still gets "Best Of What's New" award. I suppose they were comparing the two phones with each other and both won! :D
Who cares for these awards anyway! The 3GSM Congress awarded 8800 the best phone award. !!LOL!! If you are honest with yourself, do you think the phone even came close to deserving it? If they just wanted to award something that looked cool and was priced even cooler, they could as well have awarded my mother's necklace!

"TIPA chooses Nokia N80 as Best Mobile Imaging Device 2006" - Its got a three megapixel camera while no other phone has one. So it won the award in competition with...itself! They could have waited for the launch of K800; 2006 isn't over yet. But I guess they wanted only Nokia to win the awards.

"ATI and Nokia announce strategic relationship to enable new mobile multimedia experiences" - Let's see a demonstration first before jumping to conclusions. I am sure ATI will provide superb technology and Nokia's engineers will ruin it in trademark Nokia fashion!

[naveen_reloaded]

agreed that nokia N series is very popular and looks promising with whole lot of features but i definately disagree that nokia is far ahead of rivals...

nokia might be a very good competitor but definately not miles ahead....nokia is not all about N93 and N83 only....how many will be able to afford it anyways....but SE has produced phones for the masses with features and class which can only be felt in higher end nokia phones and thats why i favour SE....nokia guys swear by its N series due to its camera capability and multimedia features but we all know that these very features which lay the foundation for N series have been beaten hands down by SE phones....except maybe dispaly quality but that also only in N83 and N93 which i'm sure will be beaten soon coz nokia was never a leader in display quality anyways....

and i'll disagree infinite times that SE has less funds for R&D than nokia or others...dude we are talking about SONY here....not some joke and dont forget ericsson....and i think the rate at which SE is advancing cannot be matched by any other brand so dont ever raise the questions as far as R&D in concerned...!

to all Nokia fans,
before you ppl come out with statements like "nokia is light years ahead/far ahead of rivals" plz keep in mind that SE is not all about k700i/k750i and w800i only...
nokia and others still have to come up with answers to SE models like W900i, K790/800i, w850i, p990i, w950i, M600i, w810i

and when we look at p990i we can realize that there's a very thin line b/w this phone and the nokia highest phones like N83 and N93....its just a matter of two or three more advanced phones and better software support from SE that will actually leave N series behind...

ENjoy...


WELL SAID SAUVE.......WELL SAID...

[montsa007]

imagine the
sound of sony
camera of samsung
o/s of nokia
battery of nokia
and style of motorola wat a heaven it will be?

[naveen_reloaded]

AGAIN I HAVE TO SAY.....NOKIA HAS TO DEPEND UPON OTHER LEADING COMPANIES FOR SUPPORT....TO SHOW OF THAT THEY ~BRING NEW THINGS.....
bue SE and other companies...even samsung is good compared to nokia..not with SE...

i still say.....wht has nokia so far done???? produce phones of large size....get it out of the company as fast as it could......name the whole number series(from 1 to 999999999999999)...well if time passes i think there will be a seperate DICTIONARY for nokia(considering the way its bringin the phones out of the company).......but in the end it all comes to waste , utterly cr_p like phone on to the street....
winning awards.... well nowadays its easy to get awards...considering the rival between two sponsor who want to show their product or make their organisation prominent give away awards without even considering....

[naveen_reloaded]

imagine the
sound of sony
camera of samsung
o/s of nokia
battery of nokia
and style of motorola wat a heaven it will be?


o/s of nokia...????(why u want everyone to wait for years to boot huh????)


well it should be SOUND of sony,
screen of nokia(since its so big),
battery of SE k750,
camera of SE again..,
hard disk of samsung,
SE key pad
style like o2,
o/s of o2,
head phone of bose....
universal charger like nokia.....

THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED HEAVEN.......

[aryayush]

Why are you saying OS of Nokia or O2? That sounds dumb.
Nokia and O2 don't have proprietary OSes. They use Symbian and Windows Mobile respectively.

And naveen_reloaded, you would prefer a phone with a hard-disk? Never in a million years. The micro-drive W950i uses is far better and reliable. And just to let you know (in case you didn't), Nokia has launched a new charger with the N-series and it has been carried over to every phone that was released after N90.
And why do you prefer Nokia's screen? Everyone knows Samsung phones have the best displays.

[kumarmohit]

@sauve_guy (post - 423)

U said- "nokia and others still have to come up with answers to SE models like W900i, K790/800i, w850i, p990i, w950i, M600i, w810i"

Cmon guys see for ur self except for p990i all aother fones are virtual clones of each other meaning that SE's tech is immitative instead of innovative which shows of their tech abilities...

As for p990i being a reply to N93 and N83 do you kno that if will take only 1 point that of cam N93 has 3.2 MP cam with a 3X optical zoom whereas p990i has only 2 MP add to that VGA video recording at 30 fps which means virtually DVD quality video. I am not coamparing it to N83 as its still a rumour and SE are not considerate enuf to put p990i's tech specs at some pronuonced location on fone's main page


Again for n93 and n83 being Nokia I have continually been saying that these fones are made to demonstrate the tech capabilities of of Nokia I wholeheartedly agree that N93 and N83 are not what Nokia is too true bro instead they show what nokia is capable of...

as for N93 being left behind by 2-3 fones more .. you agree that nokia is still 2-3 generations ahead of SE as for catching up who has seen the future

as for R&D stuff we are talking of SE here which is not core SONY and core SONY does not provide funds for SE for doing R&D it does so from its own revenue which is still behind Nokia and Motorola

@ aryayush (post - 424)

Cmon man if awards do not count then why are people crazy about Nobel or Oscar Plz also note that TIPA holds the same value in Still fotografy as Cannes in movies but then in the Bharat ki janta's perspective fotography and fotografers are ltd. to marrige fotografers etc so the TIPA switching awards just for waiting for fones come on bro ...
and u can awared same status for 3GSM for cells too
And ahh the demostrations of graphical prowess have already been made again most humble request to google urself coz frankly I m too lazy to do so..


@ naveen_reloaded (post - 427)


Exactly Nokia supports and cooperates with other companies to provide a better converged product again as I said Nokia is innovative instead of immitaitve which makes it a better company(Yes I picked the quote from Halo)

Cmon man just the naming scheme does not make nokia a bad co and apart from digit naming system there is athe alphanumeric naming system in Nsereis and E series just like ur SE.

i wholly agree with the dictionary point tho Nokia should really consider such a step LOL

[naveen_reloaded]

Why are you saying OS of Nokia or O2? That sounds dumb.
Nokia and O2 don't have proprietary OSes. They use Symbian and Windows Mobile respectively.

And naveen_reloaded, you would prefer a phone with a hard-disk? Never in a million years. The micro-drive W950i uses is far better and reliable. And just to let you know (in case you didn't), Nokia has launched a new charger with the N-series and it has been carried over to every phone that was released after N90.
And why do you prefer Nokia's screen? Everyone knows Samsung phones have the best displays.

i meant to say that...samsung some time ago introduced a 20 gb internal ,memory phone, so does SE in its M series...

coming to display.....samsung just has the predefined icons ...which gives everyone a feel its display is good....infact SE has superb clarity.... wht i meant is nokia only gives away LARGE sized screen....u know that 7710... just like that...since i have used it ...its awsome to see that much big screen.....and aryayush...this is just a dream phone.....this will never happen...so dont go in for so much of detail...

and for the os... imeant to say the running platform...and i think windows mobile might give a few extra features to work upon....and again...i like the SE`s platform.....can anyone say wht SE is using for k750 and w800tec...???

[naveen_reloaded]

@sauve_guy (post - 423)

U said- "nokia and others still have to come up with answers to SE models like W900i, K790/800i, w850i, p990i, w950i, M600i, w810i"

Cmon guys see for ur self except for p990i all aother fones are virtual clones of each other meaning that SE's tech is immitative instead of innovative which shows of their tech abilities...

As for p990i being a reply to N93 and N83 do you kno that if will take only 1 point that of cam N93 has 3.2 MP cam with a 3X optical zoom whereas p990i has only 2 MP add to that VGA video recording at 30 fps which means virtually DVD quality video. I am not coamparing it to N83 as its still a rumour and SE are not considerate enuf to put p990i's tech specs at some pronuonced location on fone's main page


Again for n93 and n83 being Nokia I have continually been saying that these fones are made to demonstrate the tech capabilities of of Nokia I wholeheartedly agree that N93 and N83 are not what Nokia is too true bro instead they show what nokia is capable of...

as for N93 being left behind by 2-3 fones more .. you agree that nokia is still 2-3 generations ahead of SE as for catching up who has seen the future

as for R&D stuff we are talking of SE here which is not core SONY and core SONY does not provide funds for SE for doing R&D it does so from its own revenue which is still behind Nokia and Motorola

@ aryayush (post - 424)

Cmon man if awards do not count then why are people crazy about Nobel or Oscar Plz also note that TIPA holds the same value in Still fotografy as Cannes in movies but then in the Bharat ki janta's perspective fotography and fotografers are ltd. to marrige fotografers etc so the TIPA switching awards just for waiting for fones come on bro ...
and u can awared same status for 3GSM for cells too
And ahh the demostrations of graphical prowess have already been made again most humble request to google urself coz frankly I m too lazy to do so..


@ naveen_reloaded (post - 427)


Exactly Nokia supports and cooperates with other companies to provide a better converged product again as I said Nokia is innovative instead of immitaitve which makes it a better company(Yes I picked the quote from Halo)

Cmon man just the naming scheme does not make nokia a bad co and apart from digit naming system there is athe alphanumeric naming system in Nsereis and E series just like ur SE.

i wholly agree with the dictionary point tho Nokia should really consider such a step LOL


very impressive.....man very impressive let me say...if nokia can give this much specification.......then i think SE and OTHER companies can provide a much better specs ...wait and see for SE....they always have the winning card......hidden as secret....

still i see (this is my opinion) nokia becoming panic by the thought of SE`s competition...well to all this debate...the only end is CLOSING THIS THREAD ...coz this debate will continue forever .....as more product roll out.....from each companies.any way SE and other companies(like sagem,spice,philips...) are some wht new to the indian ,market....and they are gaining market here and in specific is the SE ..before 2 years ...no will go for SE except for t610,other than that....everybody goes in for NOKIa....but now the situation is changing in a rapid way.... isee people prefering to SE coz of its MUSIC clarity...

well we should wait and see how things go...

until then...












LETS DEBATE........

[TechMogul]

I'll go with SE any day...voted for SE..have used both..but SE..AMAZING.

[aryayush]

kumarmohit, a better company is one that caters to the demands of the market and makes value-for-money products, not one which shows off it's reach by making alliances with big-shots in the industry. Agreed, Nokia's phones are far more feature-laden when compared to other companies but exactly HOW many people in the market would be willing to shell out that much moolah to buy a phone! And that too, elephant sized monsters.
Sony Ericsson phones are cheap and rich with usable features, packed into a neat, small, stylish and light package.
How many Nokia phones come with decent headphones? Not one! Not even N91 or 3250. On the other hand, every WALKMAN P