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anandk
20-09-2005, 09:13 AM
Is the Firefox honeymoon over?
:(
IE being more commonly used, is hammered at more, by the hackers, thus leading to the perception, that it has sercurity issues., where the
fact may be quite different...

"...Firefox not only has more vulnerabilities per month than
Internet Explorer, but it is now surpassing Internet Explorer for
the number of exploits available for public download in recent
months..."
click http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=103&tag=nl.e589

"Mozilla Web browsers are potentially more vulnerable to attack than
Microsoft's Internet Explorer, according to a Symantec report".
click http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5873273.html?tag=nl.e589

srijit
20-09-2005, 11:30 AM
yeah the honeymoon is over. now it's the "happily ever after" part for me :p

Draw ur own damn conclusions

Here's IE

http://secunia.com/graph/?type=sol&period=all&prod=11
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=cri&period=all&prod=11
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=imp&period=all&prod=11

OK now for Firefox

http://secunia.com/graph/?type=sol&period=all&prod=4227
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=cri&period=all&prod=4227
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=imp&period=all&prod=4227

Now for Opera

http://secunia.com/graph/?type=sol&period=all&prod=4932
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=cri&period=all&prod=4932
http://secunia.com/graph/?type=imp&period=all&prod=4932

tuXian
20-09-2005, 01:23 PM
looks all browsers have some kinda vulnerabilities and exploits..... the more the famous a browser........... the more vul and expolits are found.

Better browse the www through the ol textual browser of Linux.

who_is_genius
20-09-2005, 02:34 PM
Hey guyz, I agree with TuxiaN. Not a single software is bugless... It might be that bugs may not be found...

anandk
20-09-2005, 07:47 PM
Draw ur own damn conclusions

dont take it personally, chappy; cool down, and do refrain from profainities.

i really had no idea u were so "emotionally :oops: involved" with firefox !

as tuxian has said, all software have vulnerabilities; we are only discussing
them here, this being a tech forum ! what i have posted, r the links to very recent zdnet blogs :)

ps : by the way, the correct usage would be not 'damn'; but 'damned' ! :wink:

Netjunkie
20-09-2005, 08:38 PM
Nice info Indyan

Its clearly evident

Its all over for FF now.

rajas
20-09-2005, 08:59 PM
See the Vulnerabilities, and the fixes...facts and figures,
This is complete brk down. shud be buried deep under.

shivaranjan.b
20-09-2005, 09:39 PM
But still firefox better than IE!!!!!!!

sidewinder
21-09-2005, 08:31 AM
why shd anybody be emo'ly involved with firefox.I use it coz its very good nd fast.But its for sure that if I get a better one I will certainly switch to that

srijit
21-09-2005, 10:46 AM
Draw ur own damn conclusions

dont take it personally, chappy; cool down, and do refrain from profainities.

u call that a profanity? :p


i really had no idea u were so "emotionally :oops: involved" with firefox !

yup i am. u know why? coz it works for me. also didnt u see me saying that my honeymoon with Firefox is over? i've settled down :p


as tuxian has said, all software have vulnerabilities; we are only discussing
them here, this being a tech forum ! what i have posted, r the links to very recent zdnet blogs :)

when has recent <insert name here> blogs become a replacement for common sense? if thats the case i can just as easily provide an article ( or better yet, write my own ) and say that xxx browser sucks at yyy and so on. i use what i feel is best for me. i use both firefox and opera, but i prefer FF coz i can customise it more.

ps : by the way, the correct usage would be not 'damn'; but 'damned' ! :wink:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=damn
oh, btw i can use it however i please :P or are u gonna go around now correcting others in how to speak in thinkdigit forums? :p

drgrudge
21-09-2005, 02:36 PM
After all I dont even care abt AV's, anti spywares, firewalls, anti spam, and all the anti things. I dont care abt security thing in FX.

For me FX rules. I have been using it since FX 1.0 preview and never used other browsers extensively (but for Maxthon).

shwetanshu
21-09-2005, 04:41 PM
i abolutely agree with drgrudge, infact i just switched from IE coz it was slow and even the bugs in IE never caused any prob for me. i never suffered due to any bug in ff, i m very comfortable with ff and maxthon

anandk
21-09-2005, 06:55 PM
After all I dont even care abt AV's, anti spywares, firewalls, anti spam, and all the anti things. I dont care abt security thing in FX.

For me FX rules. I have been using it since FX 1.0 preview and never used other browsers extensively (but for Maxthon).

i agree. this, and tabbed browsing, was what had led me to try out firefox. but then i tried maxthon, and i liked it so much, that i preferred to stick to it. :)

moreover my firefox used to 'flicker' too ! see this thread
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28159&highlight=firefox+shiver+vibrate

the thread 'firefox loses stride' may also interest those who have missed it. click http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26897&highlight=firefox+shiver+vibrate

but no doubt, this cud be a temporary setback, which will only make firefox bounce back stronger !

vignesh
21-09-2005, 07:31 PM
I never had a bug in ff.But I have been affected in IE.I like FF for the fact that you can bend it to suit your needs.

srijit
22-09-2005, 11:51 AM
most probably the reason for firefox loosing ground was ppl getting comfortable with say ver 1.0.5 and not downloading ver 1.0.6 :p

Ashis
25-09-2005, 02:56 AM
Popularity Brings in unwanted Attention!

planetcall
25-09-2005, 06:45 AM
I still like firefox. Why? Simply because any bug in FF will not be having any direct effect on your system in totality. If you dont like you may even switch to any other browser of your choice. But with IE....it is so tightly integrated in the OS that even a single flaw could prove detrimental for the entire system. Also you dont have any other alternative if you are a die hard MS victim. U Simply cant uninstall IE because MS doesnt believe in freedom. Hence, I Support FF


http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/JLP/news/pics/FirefoxS.png

AGENT_SMITH
26-09-2005, 01:32 PM
it is because hackers are now bored of finding vulneberaties in IE

QwertyManiac
26-09-2005, 07:56 PM
Well, even if its total era is over, it will continue to haunt IE for ever, Then soon a Legend Reborn

And for its end, plz do rember that it isnt in the war from long times back, It has just reached 1.5 now and u guys are tellin its not gonna win ????

QwertyManiac
28-09-2005, 05:45 PM
oh heres the update from the author of that article :
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=108

anandk
28-09-2005, 07:13 PM
QMs above link is interesting. :idea:
BOTTOMLINE : it took competition to make microsoft pull up its socks. and the main benefiters ? we the consumer !

srijit
28-09-2005, 07:41 PM
FF is not perfect and has its share of defects. The question is HOW come IE is SO MUCH WORSE, even though it has been around and WORKED ON for much longer time and by a the most resource rich organizztion.

If FF can do very decently with the MILD number of defects and the PROMPTNESS at which they address the issues, HOW COME MS CANNOT DO BETTER than Mozilla.

They are (supposedly) professional programmers charging GOOD amounts of money for their work (part of their os). Are they that incompetent, or that unwilling to do a relatively decent job?

If Ou was objective he would NOT SIDESTEP the simple issue that IE has ALREADY been worked on for much longer time than FF. It is very strange that inspite of the tons of patches on IE and ms windows, this piece of s/w has been generating severe vulnerabilities constantly with the exception of the recent respite.
Comment on the ZDnet blog ^^^
Clicky (http://www.zdnet.com/5208-10533-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=13716&messageID=274867&start=-1)

supersaiyan
29-09-2005, 12:06 PM
so now should we go for opera?

gdatuk
29-09-2005, 10:56 PM
i dont care of what security vulnerabilties or whatever it is..FX rules..it is a lot faster than IE and very cool to use..now i have so used to it that i forgot IE totally..but only at times..my side scroll bar vanishes and the tabs close(x) vanishes..but for these bugs...FX is the king of castle

anandk
30-09-2005, 06:11 PM
so now should we go for opera?
nope. stick with whatever u r using. these ups n downs will do on. :)

raj14
30-09-2005, 06:23 PM
Whatever happens, i'd put my bucks on Firefox, people predicted wether Firefox will Go on or Loose like Netscape, it looks middle in the road for now, but still, the amount of fuctionality Firefox offers is mind bloogling, not to mention excellent caching (Alltho, IE 6 already has Nglay Delay Tweak) and god forbid if any thing happens, i am of to Opera :D Yeah, No IE for me :)

kumarmohit
02-10-2005, 09:36 PM
Yes FF honeymoon is over Becoz OPERA is now FREE too

niranjan_mcarenyold
02-10-2005, 09:53 PM
there may be bugs. but the bugs in FF are fixed more rapidly that in IE. For IE we had to wait months, but for FF i takes less time, and due to the support of open source it will fix soon.

cybermanas
12-10-2005, 03:48 PM
Now firefox will face the heat due to Opera getting free.

mario_pant
12-10-2005, 10:16 PM
FiREFOX RULZ!!

PS: sorry mod. my browser prob. that i saw it double

kato
12-10-2005, 10:36 PM
if u rsaying that the popular browsers get attacked by more and more attackers then u r right and this is also right that after making opera free they have also invited a nice bunch of attackers. This shows that the firefox honeymoon is not over yet.

goobimama
12-10-2005, 11:04 PM
I haven't formatted my PC since last year after I started using the 0.8 version of Firefox...don't want to move to anything else as this is perfect for me. I don't know of any security issues.

ankushkool
08-04-2007, 02:20 PM
but fire fox provides much moer extentions n plugins than IE, which makes it very useful.... firefox will always live on n compete with others. Its opera vs firefox

sakumar79
08-04-2007, 05:00 PM
Hey why are you pulling up a thread thats more than a year old?

Arun

koolbluez
08-04-2007, 06:14 PM
I agree with Dr.Grudge.. being a loonnng time user of the browser.. way back when it was an unknown by the name phoenix... I'm very much happy with it.. whatever the vulnerabilities...

After using FF... since the beginning... I never used IE, except for some particular sites, esp xam forms sorta.
Not even the fastest browser in the world (http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22fastest+browser+of+the+world%22&btnI) could draw me away from the FireBird :D

ax3
09-04-2007, 12:38 PM
Bt firefox 2 GUD than IE ...........

mehulved
09-04-2007, 12:46 PM
locked the thread, way too old and makes no sense now.